Charlie Page's - Directory of Ezines (DOE)

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Hey guys

I had someone approach me yesterday about taking a look at Charlie Pages' Directory of Ezines (DOE).

It appears what you get, and the benefits of DOE, look pretty good. But for $197, I obviously want to get some more word on if DOE is worth it for that price.

If any of you guys have any experience with DOE would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks all,

Doug
#charlie #directory #doe #ezines #page
  • Profile picture of the author Vikram73
    The $197 is a starting point with the DOE - you will then have access to the 'database' of ezines broken across niches and will have to then deal with costs for mailing out to those lists.

    It's a good offering IMO. No regrets in spending the money there. It's worked out better for me than Facebook PPC and any other type of Social Networking traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Agoge Warrior
      Originally Posted by vikramd View Post

      The $197 is a starting point with the DOE - you will then have access to the 'database' of ezines broken across niches and will have to then deal with costs for mailing out to those lists.

      It's a good offering IMO. No regrets in spending the money there. It's worked out better for me than Facebook PPC and any other type of Social Networking traffic.
      That is good insight. Thank you! I was wondering what costs there were after the initial $ to access DOE
      I also tried Facebook PPC, Twitter etc. and did not get anywhere. The ads were target, laser focused also.

      Thanks for that bit of info. It does help!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    I've been a member of DOE for about a year now and it's diffently well worth $197. There is so much ore to it than just the ezine directory. Charlie showers his members with all sorts of freebies and training as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Agoge Warrior
      Originally Posted by sparkie2260 View Post

      I've been a member of DOE for about a year now and it's diffently well worth $197. There is so much ore to it than just the ezine directory. Charlie showers his members with all sorts of freebies and training as well.
      Hi Sparkie,

      What are the benefits of DOE that you feel is worth the money so to speak? I understand you can get value for solo ads, etc?

      Thanks,

      Doug
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  • Profile picture of the author jlmconnection
    Just thought you might be interested to know that after reading the DOE sales letter I had a question. I e-mailed support and I quote "to make absolutely sure you get the right answer Charlie will respond personally". Later that day i received an e-mail from Charlie with the exact information I needed. I was impressed with the response time and the straight forward answer I got from Charlie.

    Jim Cooper
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    • Profile picture of the author Agoge Warrior
      Originally Posted by Josh Richardson View Post

      I Rate DOE HIGHLY!
      Having Charlie email you back personally is a very good sign! So far you guys seem to be high on DOE. This is great feedback. Thank you!
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      • Profile picture of the author Josh Richardson
        Charlie is a great guy, no hype, just straight into it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Agoge Warrior
          Now, has anyone actually seen results from the benefits DOE provides. I know it contains discounts on Solo Ads and the ability to put up banner ads, etc.

          Has anyone gotten sales from using the resources DOE provides?

          It's nice Charlie is a straight up guy, but do you get a return for your investment in DOE?
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          • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
            I'd like to listen to this answers as well. Do you get discounts on Ezine Advertising through DOE?

            Originally Posted by zosowolfpacker View Post

            Now, has anyone actually seen results from the benefits DOE provides. I know it contains discounts on Solo Ads and the ability to put up banner ads, etc.

            Has anyone gotten sales from using the resources DOE provides?

            It's nice Charlie is a straight up guy, but do you get a return for your investment in DOE?
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Carter
    i believe DOE members get solo ad discounts of up to 50 percent off. but that's just for some of the ezines in the directory. some offer no discount and others 10-20 percent. but if you plan on doing solo ads for any length of time then the discounts will add up. i am not a member, but i am on charlie's email list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
      Are there ezines in several niches or just IM and MMO?

      Originally Posted by randommouse View Post

      i believe DOE members get solo ad discounts of up to 50 percent off. but that's just for some of the ezines in the directory. some offer no discount and others 10-20 percent. but if you plan on doing solo ads for any length of time then the discounts will add up. i am not a member, but i am on charlie's email list.
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  • Profile picture of the author commonjoe
    DOE members get great discounts at hundreds of ezines. One of my favorite benefits is you have access to several PLR/MRR products you can use/give away/or sell depending on the product.

    DOE is a great place to research Ezines you might be interested in advertising in.

    All and all I would give DOE a two thumbs up.
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    • Profile picture of the author iSoftware
      Charlie charges $500/hr for a personal consultation. Yet as a member you get 15 minutes of free consultation whenever the schedule is free. I've benefited from it greatly. He's even referred me to some people in offline companies.

      This is truly one of the best buys I've bought online. If it were $497 I would still feel like it's a bargain.

      Seriously, there's alot you can get for that $197. Plus the guy's been online for like 12 years so he's no fly by nighter! I also like the fact that alot of credible people (some runing Inc 500 and Inc 5000 companies) know and respect Charlie Page.

      Isn't it great when your stuff is so good your customers help to "sell" it for you? lol.....

      seriously, it's cool.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    OK I got it. Charlie Page is the real deal. But my question is unanswered yet: are there Ezines in a variety of niches or just IM and MMO? What about Self Help/ personal Development?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Ford
      Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

      OK I got it. Charlie Page is the real deal. But my question is unanswered yet: are there Ezines in a variety of niches or just IM and MMO? What about Self Help/ personal Development?
      The Ezines are in a variety of niches not just IM - IM is only a small selection available.

      Solo Ads - I had run a couple of campaigns and they bombed pretty badly, but figured that it was the quality of those lists.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpmpublishing
      Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

      OK I got it. Charlie Page is the real deal. But my question is unanswered yet: are there Ezines in a variety of niches or just IM and MMO? What about Self Help/ personal Development?

      I am a DOE member and have been for about a year.

      I am also in the Self Help/ personal Development niche and yes it is covered very well in the ezine directory.

      In my opinion the DOE is a good deal and worth the investment...if you are definately going to use it....and much of the value is due to Charlie himself.

      Personally I have found him to be very helpful and full of good advice on my calls to him (all members have access to private calls for advice or site reviews etc)

      So personally I give it the thumbs up :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author James_Harkin
    I have been a member of DOE for well over 10 years. I think its a great resource. Recommended regardless of the niche you are in
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  • Profile picture of the author niro83
    I would also recommend DOE, having been a member for 6 months now. You get a lot of training on top of access to the best Ezines on the net. You can even book a time to speak to Charlie himself.
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    • Profile picture of the author noangel
      So Mark mentioned that his ad campaigns bombed pretty badly.
      Is there a way to qualify the lists?

      Could anyone else please give their experience, good or bad.

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
        Originally Posted by noangel View Post

        So Mark mentioned that his ad campaigns bombed pretty badly.
        Is there a way to qualify the lists?

        Could anyone else please give their experience, good or bad.

        Thanks
        I would love to hear this too, as well as for some of you who have been using it so long to quantify the results you are getting out of it.

        Do you promote clickbank e-books, (or what do you promote?), how much do you typically spend for the solo ads, and what has your return been? Are you seeing a 0.1% buy rate, a 0.5% buy rate, a 1% buy rate, or does it just vary depending on the product, the market, and the timing?

        Have you found the publishers to be crowded with similar offers, or is there a good diversification?

        Just the quantitative geek inside me seems to think this could be a really good investment, more so than Facebook pay per click, because you are sending out targeted info to people who will buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author dexterfulton
    Plain and simple, that's is a great investment, if you're interested in ezine marketing all the research is organized for you. The organization is a real time saver, and is worth the investment.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
      Originally Posted by dexterfulton View Post

      Plain and simple, that's is a great investment, if you're interested in ezine marketing all the research is organized for you. The organization is a real time saver, and is worth the investment.
      Thanks man! I see you're sort of next door to me - I'm in Birmingham, AL. Fired up to watch my Auburn Tigers give the Oregon Ducks a real SEC wake up call!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeid Makkawi
    Thanks for this thread now i got the idea about DOE. I was wondering is DOE gonna be worth the money, Seems likely i'll join DOE since im still working to building my own list. Should be really helpful to have DOE for my ezine advertising journey.

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author Texjd
    Running Solo ads is an artform, just like landing pages and etc. The key to the DOE is that you can find a niche group to advertise to that is very targeted. Whether your ad is successful of course depends on a lot of variables.

    Charlie is more than willing to help with your solo and other ads and there are few better at copywriting and hitting the target. The stuff he throws in for signing up is worth the cost.

    And you don't have to advertise, many of the ezines take articles too. There are a number of ways to take advantage of the database of ezines from research to marketing.

    Like any other purchase, you can't just buy it and then stick on your hard drive. You need to use it to get all the benefits. And Charlie will back you up 100%. Can't ask for more than that.
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    • Profile picture of the author da3gan
      I've used the DOE over the last 5 years for solo mailings in the opportunity marketplace, and it's a tool that's worth it if you use it in a strategic business building sense.

      I've researched most of the available resource within that niche within the DOE and the honest truth, at least as far as my personal tests are concerned, is 90% of the newsletters there will not be profitable, but 10% will be break even or better and where the true value for the DOE lies for us is, in finding those 10% and then negotiating up long term advertising campaigns with them - which takes time and marketing capital to run enough appropriate tests to find your diamonds in the rough.

      Now it is a clear time saver vs. searching via Google or Bing for appropriate newsletters.

      The one the thing about the DOE that may not be the best news is the online newsletter marketplace seems to be shrinking. 5 years ago there were far more viable newsletters to mail than there are now within the DOE and there has only been slight changes in terms of updates for new lists (at least in the opportunities marketplace).

      The newsletter business model isn't as attractive as it once was. Many of the sites in the DOE grew there lists 5 to 10 years ago via free search traffic when growing those lists in that manner was easier than it is today. The problem is, those same sites aren't really growing their subscriber bases anymore, but are still selling ads, so the lists have grown old and unresponsive in large, but . . .

      As I said before there are some good contacts to be found and made if you're looking long term, but don't expect your first or second or third add to hit it out of the park.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
        da3gan, are you using DOE to promote clickbank ebook products, or do you do something different like promote your own sites? It seems like the return should be pretty decent on getting in the DOE.
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        • Profile picture of the author da3gan
          Daniel,

          Primarily over the years I've used the DOE for my own list building purposes and that's why I stress the fact that it's a long term resource IF used right.

          There's a lot that goes into making even the one out of tens ads that is profitable profitable in a situation where we're creating our own customers at 100% profit (and usually we're looking at a time frame of 30 days for an ROI).

          Just shooting out CB offers to lists eliminates most of the tools you have at your disposal for turning a newsletter into a long term profit and customer acquisition center or even breaking even.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
    Most definitely you are right, right, right, da3gan! Using vast resources of DOE to just shoot out clickbank offers sort of seems to me like having one niche blog and focusing only on Adsense. Not very wise to not maximize your income streams and diversity.

    I started out in IM very recently, only about last May, and didn't start seriously learning and absorbing AND implementing things the right way probably until a few months ago, and that's due in good part to wise people like you with good advice.

    My ultimate plan for DOE is to:
    1. Dive in and learn about all the other great stuff you have access to
    2. Utilize it very soon when I finish my OWN ebook and capture even more revnue to build my own list
    3. Explore diversifying my income even more with other good marketing

    All in all, I think this is something that has a lot of potential, like you said, if you approach it right. Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author bhappy3402
    I too have personally experienced interaction with Charlie himself. I believe he is an honest marketer who truly cares about his members, and I also agree that the $197 is well worth what he offers. Within hours of emailing him with a question, he personally responded to my email. I felt like I was talking to an old friend. He also gives his members a free once a week coaching call where you can ask him or talk to him about anything. He honestly wants you to succeed. The bottom line IMO, is that he is a great person and he wants to see all of his members do well and get the most out of their membership.

    Also, there is a wealth of information that he offers his members on his site, as well as the huge ezine directory. If you can spare the $197 investment you will not be sorry
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
      No offense, but my brother in law is a nice guy too, but he can't teach me anything about IM.

      I did go on and join the DOE, and I'm not too impressed right now. I have browsed some of the "active" ezines, and found about 30% of them to be invalid websites when you try to visit them, meaning the ezine is not active anymore.

      I have also contacted about 10 ezines about questions, and have not heard back from any yet. I am going to give it another day or so, but I'm just not seeing the huge value that the rest of you say this place has. I'm not giving up, because I can see the potential, but I think that some updating could be done, for sure.
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      • Profile picture of the author iansinfo
        Originally Posted by Daniel LaRusso View Post

        No offense, but my brother in law is a nice guy too, but he can't teach me anything about IM.

        I did go on and join the DOE, and I'm not too impressed right now. I have browsed some of the "active" ezines, and found about 30% of them to be invalid websites when you try to visit them, meaning the ezine is not active anymore.

        I have also contacted about 10 ezines about questions, and have not heard back from any yet. I am going to give it another day or so, but I'm just not seeing the huge value that the rest of you say this place has. I'm not giving up, because I can see the potential, but I think that some updating could be done, for sure.
        Daniel do you have any further update on your experience good or other wise to report. I am seriously considering the investment and would appreciate your thoughts in light of your last post
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    I got an offer to join DOE from Vick's 48 hour cash machine
    about 2 months ago.

    Since than I've been on the fence of joining, but not because of the price,
    but because of the actual "realistic" value.

    Yeah, ok. Charlie claims to have hundreds or thousands of ezines
    accross all niches. But I need only IM niche, so my interest is less
    broad than many's.

    And as I've been scrolling down this page, reading through comments,
    there were no specifics stated as for: I ran an ad in a newsletter for X days
    for X dollars and got X results (sales, subscribers etc)

    And reading the last reply before me, really confirmed what I was afraid of.

    Outdated lists. Seemingly build up the value but very few of them even exist
    or are responsive.

    So, my decision is not to invest in Charlie's membership...

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  • Profile picture of the author jayjay4711
    No one - I mean No one has even hinted about how much money they have made using this system. Has anyone made any? Charlie sounds like a real nice guy, but real nice guys don't feed the family. Come on now - honesty please - Anyone out there made money with DOE's system yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author jayjay4711
    I think, from reading the replies already entered, that the value of joining DOE, is not so much the sales you make, but the ability to build your list. Also, the contact with Charlie himself. No one seems to be making any money with the system and claim that it is outdated. I therefore think that I will not join DOE, but am going to try and send an email directly to Charlie (even though I'm not a member) and see what happens. Wish me luck
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    The only thing that has prevented me from purchasing is I do not know what niches and how many ezines per niche. Other threads had posted the categories but I want to know specifics. for example: I know there is a category for Sports, but how many Golf ezines are in DOE, I have the same question for many other niches. It would not be hard and it would probably be a sales booster to list the individual niches and how many ezines per niche.

    Al
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