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Any comments about the best list buidling method/technique/software out there ?

Would love to get cranked up in list building but don't wanna get ripped off with investing in useless courses etc.

Gratias
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Richardson
    Doing it the conventional way. I would do this.

    STEP 1 : Write a free report Relevent to you niche. (or outsource from Scriptlance)
    STEP 2 : Grab a Autoresponder service (Aweber, Getresponse etc etc)
    STEP 3 : Get A relevent domain and hosting with it (i recommend godaddy for domains, hostgator for hosting.
    STEP 4: Head over to Scriptlance and post a job that you would like a squeeze page created for XYZ niche (should cost you no more than $50)
    STEP 6 : IMPORTANT : Opt into your own list, make sure you have set up your auto responder and site correctly.
    STEP 5: Drive traffic to your squeeze page (Articles, PPC, SEO via a blog, Solo ads... whatever you want, just make sure its targeted to your niche!)

    Enjoy you subscribers .

    Once you have a list of 300-500 subscribers, you should consider adswaping to build your list quicker ( safeswap.com is a good site to do this - also this forum!)

    Oh, and don't hammer your list with offers, give them value too!


    Congratulations, You've just saved yourself $17.
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      If you want to be able to use ANY PDF e-book or report to build your list, check out a software application called Viral PDF Master.

      The potential for this is enormous
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      • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        If you want to be able to use ANY PDF e-book or report to build your list, check out a software application called Viral PDF Master.

        The potential for this is enormous
        Is this your own product? If so, you may want to quantify that while recommending it. Just sayin'.
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    • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
      Hey Josh,
      Many thanks for your advice...

      Lets jazz this thread up...any secrets
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    • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
      ghostcash amigo...thanks for the advice about PPC to drive traffic...

      Will keep this in mind and work out the ROI
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    • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
      Thanks Glenn...will take a look at viral pdf generator again...skipped it the first time around...
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  • Profile picture of the author rashamba
    I am going to chime in on how I do it now. All of the advice is great (btw, maybe this thread should be moved to another forum, because no one talking about a course). However, my time is very valuable and worth money to me. So to do all those things costs me. You can setup a free facebook fan page, title it about your niche, and run an ad on facebook for $20. Because you can so ultra-target your demographics, you put in everything that you KNOW they will like in your ad preferences. If you are not getting clicks from that ad then you will never make it outside of facebook and you will waste a lot of time and money. You may notice I left out the part where you have a product on facebook. If you have that is great, but if you just want to test proof of concept , you don't even need a product. Just a fan page about your topic is fine. Make a couple of posts (video clips, article links, etc). You are just trying to see how many clicks you get. Again the advice others have offered is how we all started, but there is no need to do all that and discover your product is not viable. Facebook is the best testing ground IMO. Better to be out $20 than hours of your time.
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Hey sysmarketer

      Thanks Glenn...will take a look at viral pdf generator again...skipped it the first time around...
      That's Viral PDF Master not Viral PDF Generator.

      They're two very different products.
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      • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        Hey sysmarketer

        That's Viral PDF Master not Viral PDF Generator.

        They're two very different products.

        Thanks again Glenn...Viral PDF Master...will check it out
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      • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        Hey sysmarketer

        That's Viral PDF Master not Viral PDF Generator.

        They're two very different products.

        I just checked out Viral PDF Master. I must admit it adds a truly interesting wrinkle, one I've not seen before, and I certainly am giving it serious consideration.
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    • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
      Originally Posted by rashamba View Post

      I am going to chime in on how I do it now. All of the advice is great (btw, maybe this thread should be moved to another forum, because no one talking about a course). However, my time is very valuable and worth money to me. So to do all those things costs me. You can setup a free facebook fan page, title it about your niche, and run an ad on facebook for $20. Because you can so ultra-target your demographics, you put in everything that you KNOW they will like in your ad preferences. If you are not getting clicks from that ad then you will never make it outside of facebook and you will waste a lot of time and money. You may notice I left out the part where you have a product on facebook. If you have that is great, but if you just want to test proof of concept , you don't even need a product. Just a fan page about your topic is fine. Make a couple of posts (video clips, article links, etc). You are just trying to see how many clicks you get. Again the advice others have offered is how we all started, but there is no need to do all that and discover your product is not viable. Facebook is the best testing ground IMO. Better to be out $20 than hours of your time.

      Testing your product before going all out---always a must. Thanks kindly for offering us your method rashamba---and its free unlike testing using PPC.
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    • Profile picture of the author djemerald
      Originally Posted by rashamba View Post

      I am going to chime in on how I do it now. All of the advice is great (btw, maybe this thread should be moved to another forum, because no one talking about a course). However, my time is very valuable and worth money to me. So to do all those things costs me. You can setup a free facebook fan page, title it about your niche, and run an ad on facebook for $20. Because you can so ultra-target your demographics, you put in everything that you KNOW they will like in your ad preferences. If you are not getting clicks from that ad then you will never make it outside of facebook and you will waste a lot of time and money. You may notice I left out the part where you have a product on facebook. If you have that is great, but if you just want to test proof of concept , you don't even need a product. Just a fan page about your topic is fine. Make a couple of posts (video clips, article links, etc). You are just trying to see how many clicks you get. Again the advice others have offered is how we all started, but there is no need to do all that and discover your product is not viable. Facebook is the best testing ground IMO. Better to be out $20 than hours of your time.

      Being a new list builder myself I like this idea of testing for cheap. I'll be giving it a try, thanks for all the suggestions here .
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  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
    Josh has put down all the basic ingredients for list building. But if you want to learn everything about list building then I recommend you list building automation. It covers everything from squeeze pages to getting traffic and then maintaining and scaling the list.
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    • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
      Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

      Josh has put down all the basic ingredients for list building. But if you want to learn everything about list building then I recommend you list building automation. It covers everything from squeeze pages to getting traffic and then maintaining and scaling the list.

      Cool will check it out jrafique...could you list some of list building automation's benefits ?
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      • Profile picture of the author jrafique
        Originally Posted by sysmarketer View Post

        Cool will check it out jrafique...could you list some of list building automation's benefits ?
        Hi sysmarketer, sorry I could not see your message. You can find my words about list building automation at this post.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...tt-callen.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Wiechert
      Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

      Josh has put down all the basic ingredients for list building. But if you want to learn everything about list building then I recommend you list building automation. It covers everything from squeeze pages to getting traffic and then maintaining and scaling the list.
      Hi Jawad,
      Do you have any review or comments on "Autoresponder Madness" from Andre Chaperon ? I´ve heard it´s even better than List Building Automation.
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      • Profile picture of the author jrafique
        Originally Posted by Michael Wiechert View Post

        Hi Jawad,
        Do you have any review or comments on "Autoresponder Madness" from Andre Chaperon ? I´ve heard it´s even better than List Building Automation.
        Sorry Michael I could not see your message earlier. I have really no idea about Autoresponder Madness. But another product is being launched today named Auto Cash Funnel. That has very good idea about list building from different internet marketing events that are organized on permanent basis. I will post my review about ACF on my site today as I have got the access to the product two days back.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Walter
    Frank Kern's List Control
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    • Profile picture of the author Zero
      Originally Posted by Joe Walter View Post

      Frank Kern's List Control
      List Control isn't on the market.

      Matt Callen's List building course came out today.
      Anything by Ryan Deiss on listbuilding is well worth the investment. Underground listbuilding is a fantastic course, as is sneaky email tricks. I highly recommend them.
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      • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
        Originally Posted by Zero View Post

        List Control isn't on the market.

        Matt Callen's List building course came out today.
        Anything by Ryan Deiss on listbuilding is well worth the investment. Underground listbuilding is a fantastic course, as is sneaky email tricks. I highly recommend them.

        Anyone purchased List Building Automation by Matt Callen...your feedback would be appreciated before I go ahead and buy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ivelin2008
          List Control is one of the best list building courses but since it's not on the market currently what do you guys think of this new Matt Callen's product? Is it any good? I'm looking for a quality list building course to promote..
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          • Profile picture of the author GlenH
            I own 6 list building courses that I've bought over the past couple of years.

            When I sat down one day and boiled them all down to their nuts and bolts information, in the end, each course really gave the same strategies.

            There is nothing truly new when it comes to list building (except one thing)

            Each new list building course that hits the market, just goes through and reinforces the basics of list building.

            They all just 'tell it' in a different way.
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            • Profile picture of the author Zero
              Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

              I own 6 list building courses that I've bought over the past couple of years.

              When I sat down one day and boiled them all down to their nuts and bolts information, in the end, each course really gave the same strategies.

              There is nothing truly new when it comes to list building (except one thing)

              Each new list building course that hits the market, just goes through and reinforces the basics of list building.

              They all just 'tell it' in a different way.
              I think you cannot say that of List Control by Frank Kern. That was truely the most unique stuff yet. The stuff he teaches in the final module is super advanced ninja stuff, which he said if he ever released it, it would be the opening to Mass Control 3.0. That alone set it apart from any list building course there has been so far.


              Ryan Deiss & Perry Belcher gave some pretty unique list building tactics, many don't cover at all that much.
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              • Profile picture of the author Globolstaff24
                I think that List Building Automation by Matt Callen can help you.
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    • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
      Originally Posted by Joe Walter View Post

      Frank Kern's List Control
      Anyone use List Control ? Please give us your feedback.
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  • Profile picture of the author Damani Tabor
    The best way to build a list is to encourage new subscription driven by the endorsement of existing members. This is best accomplished by using social networking tools and viral marketing mechanisms.
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  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
    Free Give away works very well even without squeeze/capture page. I have been experiencing this on my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    I stand slightly corrected Glen, I can see that further down the way you have the link in your signature.
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  • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
    Hey Guys; Glenn, Jrafique and Peter...thanks much for your suggestions, much appreciated. Always grateful learning from those who are in the know and share freely to those who wanna be.

    Many thanks
    Sys
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  • Profile picture of the author harro1
    Recently i tried media buys and ppv for list building and it worked fine, i got many cheap subscribers, getting them from ppc cost a lot more.
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  • Profile picture of the author K.Callwood
    Rashamba made a good point about the testing side. However there are 2 critical things he failed to mention about Facebook. Use FBML to add a squeeze page directly on the fan page and to really make it cool use the trick of requesting a like to reveal exclusive info that then requires an opt-in (look at the Ryan deiss fan page for an example).

    You also need to realize that Facebook stats do not always reflect the true profit potential of a market. The simple fact is that most people on Facebook are not there to buy anything. That means that the CTR will be real low (deiss quotes 0.1% as good) and you may not see any sales as a result. Squeeze pages work much better on fan pages than outside traffic.

    All that being said. I personally think mobile marketing is the fastest list building tool out there. You can't get cheaper clicks and as long as you use a simple mobile optimized squeeze page, people will opt-in like crazy. I got 5 cent clicks and more than 700 opt-INS in a day for one niche.

    Don't thank people in posts. It helps their social presence much more if you hit the thanks button below the post.

    Good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author rashamba
      Thanks for adding K Call. You are right a squeeze page on Facebook is essential. Not that I am working on a tool and course to release this month just for that....
      Hope to have a great WSO (great=free) for everyone in a couple of weeks.

      Originally Posted by K.Callwood View Post

      Rashamba made a good point about the testing side. However there are 2 critical things he failed to mention about Facebook. Use FBML to add a squeeze page directly on the fan page and to really make it cool use the trick of requesting a like to reveal exclusive info that then requires an opt-in (look at the Ryan deiss fan page for an example).

      You also need to realize that Facebook stats do not always reflect the true profit potential of a market. The simple fact is that most people on Facebook are not there to buy anything. That means that the CTR will be real low (deiss quotes 0.1% as good) and you may not see any sales as a result. Squeeze pages work much better on fan pages than outside traffic.

      All that being said. I personally think mobile marketing is the fastest list building tool out there. You can't get cheaper clicks and as long as you use a simple mobile optimized squeeze page, people will opt-in like crazy. I got 5 cent clicks and more than 700 opt-INS in a day for one niche.

      Don't thank people in posts. It helps their social presence much more if you hit the thanks button below the post.

      Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
    On another forum...some guy suggests adding a promo for your free/paid product on the Thank You Page of a JV in your niche as the best method of building a targetted list ?
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    • Profile picture of the author jrafique
      Originally Posted by sysmarketer View Post

      On another forum...some guy suggests adding a promo for your free/paid product on the Thank You Page of a JV in your niche as the best method of building a targetted list ?
      Ideas never ends just need an impressive mind Ad swap is very fast way of building lists. Another thing that works really well for me is the viral list building method. Here is how it works:

      Send a gift to your existing subscribers and when they go on the download page offer them another quality gift but with condition like send following email (that you will give) to your 20 or any no of friends and ask for a BCC to you. Then do same with new 20 and keep on doing this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin2010
    Before you start to think about creating a squeezpage and the domain name etc you really need to find a product to sell and all the rest will fall into place.

    My method to test if something is worth persuing other than looking for amount of searches etc is to type the keyword i want to use into the search engines and on the first page if there are any sponsered ads then i know that someone will be searching for my keyword which helps

    Also with regards to your squeezepage then it's not been proven yet but if you can add a video of yourself and also some good content with bullets and a call to action then you should be onto a sure fire winner.
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    • Profile picture of the author K.Callwood
      Originally Posted by Martin2010 View Post

      Before you start to think about creating a squeezpage and the domain name etc you really need to find a product to sell and all the rest will fall into place.

      My method to test if something is worth persuing other than looking for amount of searches etc is to type the keyword i want to use into the search engines and on the first page if there are any sponsered ads then i know that someone will be searching for my keyword which helps

      Also with regards to your squeezepage then it's not been proven yet but if you can add a video of yourself and also some good content with bullets and a call to action then you should be onto a sure fire winner.
      Video has killed my squeezepage conversions except for when it was used in mobile marketing. Sometimes less is more and you would be surprised how well a great headline two sentences or five bullets about the benefits of signing up (free video on next page, free report, etc.) and the aweber form may convert. In the end it is all about testing to see what motivates your niches. Use google page optimizer to split test it is free and happens to also be one of the best pieces of software on the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin2010
    Hi K, yes when creating the video then on some occassions if the video doesn't promote you well enough then it can have the adverse effect but on the whole they seem to convert better than just a bog standard squeezepage.
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  • Profile picture of the author sysmarketer
    You guys rock...in less than the space of a week, this thread has attracted some super generous WARRIORS that share freely.....

    I am grateful to all of you guys...

    Payback is coming soon
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  • Profile picture of the author bryansarnold
    Whatever you do...Please DO NOT spend your money on the $1000 dollar courses...some are even charging $2000 on their listbuilding courses. Please!!! That is a waste and a crime to the average marketer.

    I agree with Glen H. A lot of these courses are the same, just told in a different way.
    You just have to start small and build your way up just like any other business. You're not gonna blow up your subscribers overnight.
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