Auto Traffic Monopoly by Andrew Wallace

by mish_h
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This is about to go live and from the sales video there is no clue as to what it is or what it will do. Anyone had a review copy or heard of it?

Just Google AutoTrafficMonopoly and you will find it

Is it another Guru product that does nothing or some thing worthwhile
#andrew #auto #monopoly #traffic #wallace
  • Profile picture of the author David4254
    SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!!!

    This is the worst SEO product I have ever seen! I just read the 30 page Auto Traffic Monopoly System.pdf. The release date on the installation guide is "Version 1.0.0 November 22". The guide tells you to find low competition CB products, write seven review articles, use his software and submit to free social network sites, thus getting tons of visitors and make piles of money.

    This type of product *really* makes me mad! Oh, there are something like 5-7 upsells.

    STAY AWAY from this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      ERRRRRRRRR...dumb question?

      About half way down the page, he has a proof of income graphic from his clickbank account...basically, showing where he started from, and where he took his profits too...

      ehhhhh...both of the screen shots have the same dates, so how could he make 2 amounts on the same day?

      And then down the page...he has several more images...all the same dates lol - so looks like he used one "template" but all the amounts change with each screenshot.
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      • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
        You guys better hurry and buy this...

        He's making only 300 available and there are only 157 left.

        RUN!!! hahahahahahahaa

        Looks like they are planning on losing money for this launch.

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      • Profile picture of the author lfhair
        I'm NOT impressed with the product. The PDF file is basic info about how to select a Clickbank product and create a website. The software lets you submit articles (which you must provide) to web 2.0 sites and builds a linkwheel that points to your money site.

        In his sales video he blasts the gurus, but then he proceeds to use all the same guru tricks with various upsells. One of the upsells is a sitebuilder, which you can buy for $47/month. The others are a Mentor Program for $197 -- no wait, I'll give it to you for only $97. Some link builder software for $77 (actually $47 if you refresh). And a "VIP Club" for $47.

        I didn't buy any of the upsells, so I don't know if they're any good or not.
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        • Profile picture of the author superbiz
          This guy bashes the gurus and then as mentioned in an earlier post, does the typical display of fake screen shots!
          He says...its not abt facebook...not twitter....not article marketing...yet he does not say what it is exactly...oh wait I think he did...its a magical software that will put money into your account from clickbank...gimme a break.
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        • Profile picture of the author David Sahel
          Originally Posted by lfhair View Post

          I'm NOT impressed with the product. The PDF file is basic info about how to select a Clickbank product and create a website. The software lets you submit articles (which you must provide) to web 2.0 sites and builds a linkwheel that points to your money site.

          In his sales video he blasts the gurus, but then he proceeds to use all the same guru tricks with various upsells. One of the upsells is a sitebuilder, which you can buy for $47/month. The others are a Mentor Program for $197 -- no wait, I'll give it to you for only $97. Some link builder software for $77 (actually $47 if you refresh). And a "VIP Club" for $47.

          I didn't buy any of the upsells, so I don't know if they're any good or not.
          Well Im a newbie-If its going to help you submit articles and build wheels for you--thats something that I need-It works as you will not have to pay for wheel building services anymore--if you have TheBestSpinner-you can spin many articles-Im I getting his right?
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          • Profile picture of the author MichaelParsons
            Originally Posted by proven View Post

            Well Im a newbie-If its going to help you submit articles and build wheels for you--thats something that I need-It works as you will not have to pay for wheel building services anymore--if you have TheBestSpinner-you can spin many articles-Im I getting his right?
            Proven- You've picked a great place to be a newbie!

            LEARN before you buy. Read posts like this, and on other products and WSO's and be careful not to fall for the newest "shiny bauble" promising the moon.

            You will find the collected experiences of thousands of man (and woman)-years (and dollars) spent on good, bad, and useless.

            Find what works for you, then scale it, meaning learn to make $1 a day, or $30 a month, then repeat to make $10 a day, $100 a day, etc.

            Don't waste your time or money on ATM and products like it.

            Learn the basics of the business, then go for the "twists"!


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            • Profile picture of the author Byrt M
              Its an obvious fact that as an endless list of newbies enter in to the market there are as many being burned and getting out. So the market is always topped up and refreshed with a whole new batch of sitting ducks.

              Its true you know, hard-core scammers don't change, they just put up another new pitch. Its just another day.

              Warriors, this is all the more a reason, an urgency, a desperate need, for a new and clean playing field where real teaching, real products, things that really do work can rise up again and get to be showcased, where the market IS a safe haven again. Dreaming? Maybe. But you and I can make it happen by setting the standard on what we sell and what we buy
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        • Profile picture of the author Richnana
          I love this forum. whenever I get one of those make money emails from several guru's I know if I check this forum, I can put my credit back in my wallet or pull it out. Thanks for the candid review of this product. You guys rock
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          • Profile picture of the author Dave Warrior
            I bought this 4 days ago along with 2 of the upsells, 'ATM Profit Banker Traffic Software' and 'ATM Copy and Paste Membership' . I read the ATM System pdf which was quite interesting , pulling together info on how to spot a good CB product, some SEO using Google adwords and most importantly an explanation of the link wheel technique.
            I was disappointed to be stuck with his chosen 7 blog sites. Overall though it seemed worth a go.

            Then I tried the 'ATM Profit Banker Traffic Software' which is by Paul Libard and Antonio Giuditta. After reading the short manual I launched the software and added a test site url and set up an account profile which consisted of signing up for 9 specific bookmarking sites then adding the login details to the profile. A couple of the sites didn't send me an email with my password and one came up with some sql errors but logged me in anyway. The final step was to go to another screen to start promoting your urls to the bookmarking sites. This didn't go too well as I instantly got an unhandled exception (index was outside the bounds of the array). This is a pretty basic error to make so I wasn't best pleased !
            Surprisingly you could choose to ignore and it continued to the correct screen. I then started the submissions and quickly found out that 2 were successful,2 failed because they didn't have a matching category to the one I entered (internet marketing) and the other 5 said 'Invalid Login'

            The third piece I had purchased was the 'ATM Copy and Paste Membership'. I had a 5 day trial for $4.95 (£4.48 inc vat) , after which it was £37.12 a month. You are supposed to 'Get one of our personal super profitable copy and paste campaigns every week and snowball your affiliate income on auto-pilot today for just $4.95!!!' Cool However, the download link doesn't work and I have had no response to the email I sent 4 days ago.

            Now, there may be something of value in all this but I certainly don't have any confidence or inclination to wait and find out. It took me until today to check on this forum and I'm so pleased I did. It has confirmed my concerns and in the future it will be the place I come to first BEFORE thinking about buying another miracle system.

            Thanks to everyone here and I hope my experience is useful to someone else.

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      • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        ERRRRRRRRR...dumb question?

        About half way down the page, he has a proof of income graphic from his clickbank account...basically, showing where he started from, and where he took his profits too...

        ehhhhh...both of the screen shots have the same dates, so how could he make 2 amounts on the same day?

        And then down the page...he has several more images...all the same dates lol - so looks like he used one "template" but all the amounts change with each screenshot.
        Good find. I just noticed that myself. I'm usually good at uncovering that stuff.

        I just recently done some checking & inquisition on Massive Passive Profits -- and there's some questionable stuff there too.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by templarjustice View Post

          Good find. I just noticed that myself. I'm usually good at uncovering that stuff.

          I just recently done some checking & inquisition on Massive Passive Profits -- and there's some questionable stuff there too.
          I'm thinking that there is a graphics and copy guy somewhere getting a thorough beat down
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          • Profile picture of the author mish_h
            WOW, Thanks for all the replies. I started this thread hoping that I would get a few replies, looks like it's opened up a whole hornets nest. I have unsubscribed from so many "gurus" in the last few days and its been a real time saver on not having to delete all the rubbish emails I was getting.

            I almost fell for it despite having been burnt on a few similar offers in the past few weeks. If I had bought this I would have wasted so much time trying to make it work. It's back to what's been working for me and rinsing and repeating.

            I agree with Dan, these types of scam offers are going to burn a lot of people. Newbies will think that it's going to work, I have been in the game a few years and almost got caught.

            The worst thing is not the fact you have to ask for your money back but the time and effort you put into trying to make it work.
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        • Profile picture of the author affiliatechick
          Some interesting points to make:

          - Every new CB product that seems to be coming out lately is some "magical software" that will make you an affiliate millionaire... who's REALLY becoming a millionaire from this? Let me tell you; the guys behind the product & the copywriters who write those damn sales letters that are good enough to convince the thousands of newbies that come across them!!

          - Notice how the "super" affiliates that are listed on the affiliate page don't even comment (good or bad) on this thread... high commission hungry, anyone?

          - The most confusing thing about this ATM product is that its not even clear about WHAT exactly it does... Andrew doesn't even tell you in the video; he talks & talks, basically going through the sales letter word for word, shows a few clips of his Clickbank accounts, that's about it. There aren't any testimonials, nothing!! There's a reason it's been out less than a month, "limited" to 300 copies, a ton of big name marketers hoking it & less than half have been sold? On top of that, it seems from this thread alot of have refunded... yea, a few obvious clues there.

          - Who else has figured out that whenever you Google a review on a CB money making product, WF almost always comes up in the first page results. Coincidence? This forum doubles as a review site & is really the most legit one you can find. I don't even look at the "review" pages/blogs anymore because you know 99% of those are ultimately trying to convince you to buy the product anyway...


          Conclusion:
          Affiliate marketers are wising up. At this point, I think being considered an online "guru" in the CB money making world has to be a serious draw & I'd hate to be one! Just because if you end up putting out a "make money with Clickbank" product that has obvious red flags or even a "this is c**p" sales letter, your authenticity automatically comes into question, like "what are you hiding that you're not sharing?"... Know what I mean?
          I've gotten so used to these kind of pitches & honestly, I started out as a marketers' dream, just like alot of newbies. Now after several years, you're lucky if you can get a sale out of me for something that involves "making money online". You have to be like a master hypnotist convincer to break me. I know what works for me, what makes me good money, & unless you can convince me you're product will actually make me more, then don't bother!


          Good luck,
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          • Profile picture of the author hitesh93
            Originally Posted by affiliatechick View Post

            I've gotten so used to these kind of pitches & honestly, I started out as a marketers' dream, just like alot of newbies. Now after several years, you're lucky if you can get a sale out of me for something that involves "making money online". You have to be like a master hypnotist convincer to break me. I know what works for me, what makes me good money, & unless you can convince me you're product will actually make me more, then don't bother!


            Good luck,
            C.W
            Or...here's a novel idea - explain what a product does, give out a full demo BEFORE the user purchases, and let them make a decision as to whether they need it or not.
            All the 'copyrighting genius' stuff is overblown in my opinion. If you just give out to the point info, you convert better and lower your refunds (as there are no unrealistic expectations).
            If I go to home depot to buy a ladder, I look at my options and see what I need for my projects. That's how people need to shop for IM products - not based on promises, but based on 'exactly what do I need?' mentality. Can you imagine looking for a ladder and it saying 'buy this and your roof will shingle itself!' or 'just step on the lowest rung and the gutters will clean themselves!'. Both the buyers and sellers need to get real in this niche. Right now.
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            • Profile picture of the author jrafique
              Originally Posted by hitesh93 View Post

              Or...here's a novel idea - explain what a product does, give out a full demo BEFORE the user purchases, and let them make a decision as to whether they need it or not.
              All the 'copyrighting genius' stuff is overblown in my opinion. If you just give out to the point info, you convert better and lower your refunds (as there are no unrealistic expectations).
              If I go to home depot to buy a ladder, I look at my options and see what I need for my projects. That's how people need to shop for IM products - not based on promises, but based on 'exactly what do I need?' mentality. Can you imagine looking for a ladder and it saying 'buy this and your roof will shingle itself!' or 'just step on the lowest rung and the gutters will clean themselves!'. Both the buyers and sellers need to get real in this niche. Right now.
              Almost the same problem is with Forex niche as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ronny Kibet
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        ERRRRRRRRR...dumb question?

        About half way down the page, he has a proof of income graphic from his clickbank account...basically, showing where he started from, and where he took his profits too...

        ehhhhh...both of the screen shots have the same dates, so how could he make 2 amounts on the same day?

        And then down the page...he has several more images...all the same dates lol - so looks like he used one "template" but all the amounts change with each screenshot.
        Dude you are right. he is using some clickbank screenshot editors.
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    • Profile picture of the author savvybizbuilder
      Originally Posted by David4254 View Post

      SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!!!

      This is the worst SEO product I have ever seen! I just read the 30 page Auto Traffic Monopoly System.pdf. The release date on the installation guide is "Version 1.0.0 November 22". The guide tells you to find low competition CB products, write seven review articles, use his software and submit to free social network sites, thus getting tons of visitors and make piles of money.

      This type of product *really* makes me mad! Oh, there are something like 5-7 upsells.

      STAY AWAY from this.
      Really? Scams are everywhere this days. Thanks a lot for the warning.
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    • Profile picture of the author thebiznezz
      Heres my take on this. I have been an internet marketer for over 8 years and I understand why people buy these products I think. I must admit when I see these ads I still wonder "is it possible" even though experience should be telling me, "Dont Be An Idiot". What really drives people to buy this crap is that these clever guys play on people with the "I want to make money for doing f*** all " attitude. How many times do we need to tell them THIS PUSH BUTTON AND MAKE $1000 DOLLARS OVER NIGHT is NOT POSSIBLE (unless you do as these unscrupulous guys and sell a worthless product with completely false claims. I have thought about this for a long time and have now decided to take some action. Here is what I think people new to the inernet marketing game want. In my opinion the best way to make money is develop your own product and get a site up and pull traffic or set up affiliate sites. Heres the problem. Most newbies have no idea how to do it plus dont have much money and cannot really understand how to do it from an Ebook. SO I believe in the tried an trusted Watch Over My Shoulder Video Course that basically explains everything almost from turning on the computer. Next, they need to be able to do everything apart from obviously domain names and hosting as near to FREE as possible. Over the next couple of months I am going to get this video course together. I will be looking for about a dozen people on thw Wf to have a free copy to give an honest review. Let me just say I will not be giving review copies to newbies, only seasoned IMs who will be able to give an honest review. Eventually I will propably sell it for about $47. I think that is the right price because its not a lot and if they cannot afford that amount then internet business is wrong for them anyway. Any guinea pigs for a free copy let me know. As I say I only want about a dozen. FINALLY if you get an email as I do daily from people whose list you have joined offering you these crap products, remove yourself from their list as they are as bad as the morons who develop these rubbish rip off products.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chronic IM
      Originally Posted by David4254 View Post

      SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!!!

      This is the worst SEO product I have ever seen! I just read the 30 page Auto Traffic Monopoly System.pdf. The release date on the installation guide is "Version 1.0.0 November 22". The guide tells you to find low competition CB products, write seven review articles, use his software and submit to free social network sites, thus getting tons of visitors and make piles of money.

      This type of product *really* makes me mad! Oh, there are something like 5-7 upsells.

      STAY AWAY from this.
      Can you tell me why this SEO product is the worst? I'm sorry coz this is the first time I saw this SEO product... Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon74
    There is a software coming out every other day amazing and the sale page format is all the same, I am just getting fed up with BS, but the amazing thing that I don't understand is why people still buy those kind of products?
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    • Profile picture of the author EdnaM
      Originally Posted by Simon74 View Post

      There is a software coming out every other day amazing and the sale page format is all the same, I am just getting fed up with BS, but the amazing thing that I don't understand is why people still buy those kind of products?

      Yes exactly, I am not buying anymore....just do it all manually then...lol
      It seems like selling the same thing but with another name and approach..sick and tired of it...
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    • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
      Same for me... But it's how it works, they keep buying products that they'll never use. Most of my coaching clients come to me after they've burned several thousands on softwares and ebook.

      The good thing is that most of the time, I tell them to use what they already bought (if applicable, of course).

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      Originally Posted by Simon74 View Post

      There is a software coming out every other day amazing and the sale page format is all the same, I am just getting fed up with BS, but the amazing thing that I don't understand is why people still buy those kind of products?
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    • Profile picture of the author Najmi
      Originally Posted by Simon74 View Post

      There is a software coming out every other day amazing and the sale page format is all the same, I am just getting fed up with BS, but the amazing thing that I don't understand is why people still buy those kind of products?
      Simple answer,the are desperate,and getting fed up with the last BS product that came out
      So they wait for another one and ready theair $37 so that they could try something new and just HOPE that they are going to make money,but then,they fail
      Rinse and repeat

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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    I don't want to sound repetitive but this has all the red flags that screams BS. Just lets do a little review just for the sales page, and you will begin to see the patterns.

    - Blind copy - you know what is not but there is no clue what is it.
    - Broken numbers - is not make $10.000 a month but $389,783
    - video to the left call to action to the right
    - Tons of screen shots showing 'proof of income'
    - Bashing the gurus... oh you being lied to, you were scamed by gurus, they don't told you the truth... I have the real answer.
    - overwhelming and long sales copy
    - is yet another push-button software that works misteriously
    - False scarcity (157 copies left)

    That's reminds me launchs like auto commission bot, auto traffic avalanche, and many others that promise a heaven full of white clouds and little naked angels playing harps just to end yourself with something completely different of what you expected, like some rehersal script that you already have or a piece of software that plainly never works.

    I drain my review budget so this time I will step aside and not going to test it. However if someone finds it a good product then I'll jump in right away (which I doubt...)
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    • Profile picture of the author EZ2DV8
      Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

      I don't want to sound repetitive but this has all the red flags that screams BS. Just lets do a little review just for the sales page, and you will begin to see the patterns.

      - Blind copy - you know what is not but there is no clue what is it.
      - Broken numbers - is not make $10.000 a month but $389,783
      - video to the left call to action to the right
      - Tons of screen shots showing 'proof of income'
      - Bashing the gurus... oh you being lied to, you were scamed by gurus, they don't told you the truth... I have the real answer.
      - overwhelming and long sales copy
      - is yet another push-button software that works misteriously
      - False scarcity (157 copies left)

      THANK YOU neodarth! I've been meaning to type and save such a 'red flag list' to blast out to members of several groups I manage when asked about new products. I won't give you credit for the list because you must have somehow pull a mind-meld with me ;-)

      Actually you could of saved some time by including just the first and last red flags...

      First - Why would anyone buy anything that is not clearly defined? ...for any price? ...from anyone? Boggles me.

      Last - Scarcity of a digital product? Yeah, I get the "too many released will change the marketing world as we now know it" routine. This is just plain insulting.

      People! If you are smart enough to know how to use a keyboard and mouse you should be able to hear (or smell) the guru circus as it rolls onto your screen.

      I wish you all a healthy Paypal account.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
    Andrew should be more honest in his sales letter. Affiliate marketing with SEO is actually one solid business. He can just state the details honestly just like Tim and Steve did in his Commission Blueprint sales letter.
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  • Profile picture of the author davemiz
    whats funny is everyone moans, groans and complains about how they're fed up and tired of these 'bs' programs and the same 'type' of copy...

    but these products seem to sell more than everything else on the market.

    someone's buying the stuff....

    coincidence?
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    • Profile picture of the author neodarth
      Originally Posted by davemiz View Post

      whats funny is everyone moans, groans and complains about how they're fed up and tired of these 'bs' programs and the same 'type' of copy...

      but these products seem to sell more than everything else on the market.

      someone's buying the stuff....

      coincidence?
      Is not a coincidence, because the customer profile they are aiming is the desperate guy who use his last credit to buy a product that will solve his life, pay his rent and make him rich with the minimum effort at the minimum of time.

      That hunger market, with the economy as is today, is huge and sadly not everybody knows about IM forums like this. That's why they are always the best sellers and don't mind about high refund rate, they win anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author MichaelParsons
        Has anyone responded to the on-exit:
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        • Profile picture of the author dustinthetoucan
          That's it. I'm writing a 50 page E-book on the real way to make money online. And I'm going to give it away for free. It will be called, "Join the WarriorForum".
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        • Profile picture of the author connect2pro
          I filled in the email for the underground traffic system worth $497 - and it bounced right back to the sales page...not sure if I will get something in the email - but this whole long boring video is really classic, bashing the same techniques that are blatantly used in the sales letter...I am THANKFUL today for the Warrior Forum to screen these things and reveal them for what they truly are...repackaged old tedious techniques that should be added to the list of losers.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by davemiz View Post

      whats funny is everyone moans, groans and complains about how they're fed up and tired of these 'bs' programs and the same 'type' of copy...

      but these products seem to sell more than everything else on the market.

      someone's buying the stuff....

      coincidence?
      It's sad but true my man
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Originally Posted by davemiz View Post

      whats funny is everyone moans, groans and complains about how they're fed up and tired of these 'bs' programs and the same 'type' of copy...

      but these products seem to sell more than everything else on the market.

      someone's buying the stuff....

      coincidence?
      QFT!

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    • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
      Originally Posted by davemiz View Post

      whats funny is everyone moans, groans and complains about how they're fed up and tired of these 'bs' programs and the same 'type' of copy...

      but these products seem to sell more than everything else on the market.

      someone's buying the stuff....

      coincidence?
      Sometimes internet marketing is a lot like the pornography industry. A multi billion dollar industry that no one watches.

      Hehe. Yeah we all think this is gross, right? Right?
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    • Profile picture of the author mrpals
      Originally Posted by davemiz View Post

      whats funny is everyone moans, groans and complains about how they're fed up and tired of these 'bs' programs and the same 'type' of copy...

      but these products seem to sell more than everything else on the market.

      someone's buying the stuff....

      coincidence?

      Well I am not a smart man but seems to me if these morons were really pulling in that amount of money day in and day out, the desk and studio they film in would one fantastic and well decorated spot to work. However in each "Do it theirself" video they are sitting at a cheap walmart fiber desk, nothing on the walls etc...

      Im sorry but seriously if they were able to make that much and actually be able to keep the money rather than 98% being refunded, you can bet your ass their offices would be top notch.

      There is no doubt people buy their "false promises" but a very high % is refunded and THAT is what these "Guru's" bank on and actually make is those folks that, even though got a worthless piece of junk, opt not to bother with getting a refund.

      Don't you find it funny that CB has regulations on number of refunds for the buyers but not the garbage sellers? That means that after so many refunds CB will trash the buyer but not the sellers.

      All the public is asking for is to DELIVER what is promised. When a sales pitch says no article marketing needed yet the product requires article marketing "then that is a damn lie, false advertising, PERIOD."
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      • Profile picture of the author mtgpro11
        Thanks to all of you, I found the link on a Affiliate Marketing Site Newsletter and clicked on. After the video I came straight here - You Have Saved Me Again!
        I was in here several years ago when I first started but then dropped out. I had to sign up again because I couldn't find my original log in.

        It's always so tempting after all the long days of real link building work to get "sucked in" to these type of offers. I read in another thread in WF that "No, there is no Magic Bullet" but I think a lot of us wish there could be!
        Best to all Warriors!
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  • Profile picture of the author newbeedave
    First I want to THANK all you Warriors! You guys have saved me so much money. When I see something good I come here first to find the real truth. Is their any truth out side of this forum? Is it just a dream to make money on auto pilot? or a scam. Can you make money with out spending hours blogging or writing articles?
    dave
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  • Profile picture of the author Melody
    Amazingly - there are several 'respected' folks from the WF that are promoting it - along with another product that I actually did buy and have reviewed here (and requested my refund!)

    I unsubbed from a LOT of lists today.........more fun than cleaning house.......

    Melody
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    • Originally Posted by Melody View Post

      Amazingly - there are several 'respected' folks from the WF that are promoting it - along with another product that I actually did buy and have reviewed here (and requested my refund!)

      I unsubbed from a LOT of lists today.........more fun than cleaning house.......

      Melody
      Melody, that's funny!!! lol! The 'respected' folks, may have their eyes on the $600 plus possible commission per customer.

      According to what I have read on this forum...One may be better off investing in MS. NOTE: NO AFFILIATE LINK. Generally, I don't uncover what is in my "secret arsenal"...this is just a point in the right direction.

      A worth while product should produce MORE TRAFFIC, MORE LEADS, and MORE CONVERSIONS, for the investing marketer.
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      • Profile picture of the author gmann46
        Whenever in doubt, check the reviews on this forum. When reading the sales letter it gives no clue what you are paying for, that is a big red flag for me and warrior forum confirmed that!
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    • Profile picture of the author Croz
      Originally Posted by Melody View Post


      I unsubbed from a LOT of lists today.........more fun than cleaning house.......

      Melody

      I agree. Sadly, there's a lot of BS out there and I feel bad for newbies.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sea1c
        Once again The Warrior Forum saves me money. I don't know why I am even tempted by these things, unfortunately they all pull on our greed, and in some cases desperation.
        I was very lucky to find this forum in the early stages of my online carrier if I had not I would be in a very bad and lost state.
        When you do look at it with calm and unblinkered eyes it does scream garbage doesn't it?
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    • Profile picture of the author stormer
      Originally Posted by Melody View Post

      Amazingly - there are several 'respected' folks from the WF that are promoting it - along with another product that I actually did buy and have reviewed here (and requested my refund!)

      I unsubbed from a LOT of lists today.........more fun than cleaning house.......

      Melody

      Yes, Melody,

      I too have been unsubbing recently from various lists which promote these type of BS products.

      GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION is how I decide the fate of these list owners and I feel such relief after pronouncing the sentence - UNSUBSCRIBE !! :p

      Cheers Warriors and keep up the good work of exposing these cash sucking leeches.
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      • Hey stormer

        Great move doing the un-subs from the promoters - if enough people do just that they may finally get the message.

        Regards

        Bronwyn and Keith
        Originally Posted by stormer View Post

        Yes, Melody,

        I too have been unsubbing recently from various lists which promote these type of BS products.

        GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION is how I decide the fate of these list owners and I feel such relief after pronouncing the sentence - UNSUBSCRIBE !! :p

        Cheers Warriors and keep up the good work of exposing these cash sucking leeches.
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        • Profile picture of the author helpandinfo
          Yes I completely agree with the good folks on here. There is no such thing as a "magic" software and certainly no free lunch.

          Andrew W claimed there was no article marketing and yet that's exactly what it seems to be with some cheap program attached to submit it so social bookmarking sites and maybe some others.

          There are some very good content submitters on the market but the (more responsible) owners advertise them for what they are and that's all you need to know to take some of the pain out of getting backlinks.. Anything described as "Generates Instant Cash On Demand" you can take as being a BS product - and if you fall into the trap and buy then just be ready for those upsells because They are Going To Be There!

          Quotes:
          "Forget Writing Boring Articles" - a lie then from our reviews above. Well... at least you have to provide them whether you write them yourself or not..
          "Forget Setting Up Pointless Blogs" - then one of his upsells is some sitebuilder, which you can buy for $47/month!?!?!? - Why would you do that? If you have hosting then in your cpanel you can install a wordpress site in a couple of clicks or a Joomla one.. FREE!! - My hosting also includes a couple of other sitebuilders as well (which I don't use..)

          Thanks to the guys above who bought the product and so generously posted their genuine opinions here! - I had considered promoting this to my list but have now decided to tell them NOT to buy it however tempted they may be.

          The comments above regarding "Newbies" coming onto the internet looking to make cash are so true. There are millions more of them every year so that's the market these "peddlers" are after - and they're probably VERY rich doing this. Hope they can sleep at night..

          cheers, Russ
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack44
      Originally Posted by Melody View Post

      Amazingly - there are several 'respected' folks from the WF that are promoting it - along with another product that I actually did buy and have reviewed here (and requested my refund!)

      I unsubbed from a LOT of lists today.........more fun than cleaning house.......

      Melody
      Melody,,WOW, a couple Years,But i did the same thing,,Clean, spring,fall,winter,and Summer,,ALOT of Unsubs,,Felt great!!!!!,, Thanks,Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author AnneE
    I watched a part of the video. He (Andrew Wallace) really comes across as sincere. If his income claims were slightly less inflated, I might have believed it. But a system that could overnight turn my daily Clickbank income from 3 figures (not that it's even there) to 5 figures without any of those difficult time-consuming tactics made me just a tad skeptical.

    So I too came here..... I'm grateful that I don't have to wonder any more. But shucks, why can't just once there actually BE a product that will transform my life and make me a millionaire while running on autopilot. Drat.... guess I'm going to have to go back to working for a living.

    I took the suggestion above and unsubscribed from the person who sent it to me. Kind of surprised me actually that he would be associated with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdamLCasey
    This is it in a nutshell (should you turn down the ridiculous amount of upsells about 10 in total! eek)

    Install his software which allows you to input 7 reviews of affiliate products.
    It then distributes these affiliate product reviews by posting them out onto web 2.0 sites to form a link wheel for you.
    Groundbreaking hey!

    Refunded
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  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
    Paul Liburd and Antonio Giuditta are behind this product, andrew is only the front man. I review products on my blog and most of the product creator give me the early access but these people even didn't reply me. It was a signal to me that product will be of no worth and same happened.

    I will recommend to make your own traffic source rather relying on other sources. And List building is the answer. Look for some good quality product like list building automation, list profit bootcamp etc for creating your own traffic source.
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  • Profile picture of the author AbizerNalwalaUK
    Hey Warriors ..

    Again comments over here have helped me save money :-) and answer some of my queries about the product (actually nothing really is mentioned about the product in the 20 min video other than it can auto-magically make money)

    As many others, just watched the video and came here to check what folks in here feel about it ... and once again another blind sales pitch (I mean nothing about what they are offering but everything else not being offered and about the guru's mentioned)

    Not buying it ...

    Cheers!
    ~Abizer
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  • Profile picture of the author Luis Gabriel
    It's just another newbie trap.. I am getting sick of all these softwares about internet marketing that promises you need to click just ONE button and you will make thousands..
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  • Profile picture of the author David Sahel
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadWyatt
    It definitely seems to be a trend lately. Develop some magical and mysterious piece of software for a low price and then bombard you with OTOs, etc. If the software is so amazing, then there should either be a video demo that shows you exactly what it does or a free trial download.
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  • Profile picture of the author Niteprowler
    I'm not buying any no-show, no-tell, blind sales letter products.

    If th seller cannot tell me what it is and why I should buy it on its own merits they're not going to sell me a pig in a poke. There are plenty of honest, open and ethical marketers to deal with that rely on the quality of their product and not hype to sell.

    And sure... it may sell more for them to some who buy the next big thing. Not me. I'm going to stick with people I know selling products that they aren't so afraid to reveal basic info that they can't tell you what it is or even anything remotely concrete about it.



    It should say something, actually SCREAM it, that they can't sell the actual product and have to rely on selling empty promises.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tamara Watts
    This Andrew Wallace person will lose his credibility.

    The same for those promoting his product such as Bill McRea, Adeel Chowdhry, etc..
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    • Profile picture of the author RickGueli
      Originally Posted by Tamara Watts View Post

      This Andrew Wallace person will lose his credibility.

      The same for those promoting his product such as Bill McRea, Adeel Chowdhry, etc..
      That's right Tamara.

      But see, their target market is the "Newbie Industry". It's literally become an industry. Those are the folks they keep promoting to. It's not just our greed glands (or desperation) at stake; having seen the sort of paydays promoting to clueless newbies can yield, their own greed continues to overwhelm any integrity they have left.

      I am not too concerned about the Clickbank screenshots. Yes, they can be forged, or they could be true. I think most people can forgive this ambiguity (or dubiousness) if the software does manage to make the Average Joe a couple grand per month on autopilot.

      What concerns me is the blatant lies. Essentially he is saying all the other methods like SEO, PPC, PPV, Social Media etc. "don't work". That's such a blatant lie that I have a hard time imagining even newbies falling for it; the DO work. They cost time, energy, and in some cases money, but they can yield spectacular paydays.

      Secondly, offers like this promote what is in my humble opinion one of the PRIME REASONS for people remaining broke: Laziness. Sure, rich people get rich by working smart, and filling the right gaps, but every single rich person I've had the honor of meeting arrived there by working their ass off. Matt Furey worked hard to get to where he is. Harlan Kilstein worked hard to get to where he is. The later Gary Halbert, Dan Kennedy, Corey Rudl etc.

      Now to many of them, working was pure joy - an expression of their own deepest desires to help others - so there was little-to-no-effort with all the work involved. Working 14 hour days actually energised them and filled their lives with purpose.

      But lest there be delusion in the matter, there IS work involved, and herein lies the real danger of the sort of mentality that people are trying to foster upon newbies with "breakthrough" offers like this: It's an invitation to more laziness, and making your wallet lighter.

      Peace.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    What is the main traffic source of the autotrafficmonopoly?
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  • Profile picture of the author auslaw2
    I agree with Russ and Byrt that many of these products are targeting new marketers that don't know any better. The sad fact is that there are an abundant amount of new people daily turning to the Internet to make some extra income. Very few newbies know how to do their due diligence on a product and therefore, they waste a lot of money in the trial and error phase of learning.
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  • Profile picture of the author auslaw2
    Actually Russ, the way I found out about this product is because I'm on your list and I trust your opinion as an honest marketer. I know you weren't promoting the offer in your email, but you may want to send out another email to your list with what you have learned about the product I do think you're one of the good guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Morrigan
    Thanks to all for their input on this, saving me time and money. I wouldn't even have given it the time of day except that it was recommended by Adeel Chowdry (unsubbing as we speak ) - and I came here straight away before even listening to the sales pitch. Thank you all!
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  • Profile picture of the author Blaz Banic
    I actually sent them an email that I was sceptical
    and wanted more answers.

    I asked if there were any up-sells and if they can
    promise me that if I bought the product, it's the
    ONLY thing I need to make money (just as they
    promise on the sales letter -- completely hands
    off, automatic money-making system).

    Of course, after about 14 hours still no answer.

    I'd stay away. I'm really glad to have looked here
    before giving in.

    This kind of B.S. is what really gets on my nerves.

    Anybody noticed the "new" sales template lately --
    HUGE headline with video introduction bashing
    the gurus and an "Add to cart" button to the
    right with a huge arrow pointing at it. Below there
    are the McAfee secured and Verisign secured seals.

    This screams "NEWBIE TRAP" in my book. I mean,
    what experienced Internet marketer doesn't know
    that ClickBank is secured...

    Oh, forgot to mention another give away... The price
    has been slashed from $197 to unbelievable $37! I
    mean who wouldn't grab this opportunity ;P

    I guess they figured out their $77, $67 and even
    $47 days are over.

    Reminds me on my early days when I jumped on every
    such B.S. and being disappointed every single time.

    Again, thank you WF!

    Take care.
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      • Profile picture of the author jrafique
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        I'm finally starting to see what the problem is with all these blind offers...

        I used to defend these types of pages saying they were finely tuned sales messages... but this is getting a bit out of hand.

        Take a look at the top 10 products on CB. Mine and EVP are the only offers up there that is are straight offers, the rest are magical softwares written blindly.

        What this is encouraging every marketer to do is turn their sales letters blind - heck, I even regret keeping my offer straight because I know had I gone blind I would have made twice or even three times the amount of money on my launch.

        This is going to create a never ending circle of blind offers (since no one buys straight offers anymore).

        What's going to happen as all these offers burn out the newbie, entry level customers? Well... the majority of the newbies are going to give up, meaning that the amount of experienced people who can distinguish a legitimate offer from a pie in the sky offer is going to get smaller and smaller.

        It's going to be VERY interesting to see what happens over the next few months as everyone burns out their lists and trust on these blind offers.

        Honestly... I'm slightly worried about what is going to happen in the long term if this non-sense keeps up.
        We have a great community here but we might be only 5% part of their lists for which they never worry about.

        In the recent times I could only see Insiders HQ and Wealth in a Box. Both have the potential to build whole business from scratch.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jamie Lewis
          Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

          We have a great community here but we might be only 5% part of their lists for which they never worry about.

          In the recent times I could only see Insiders HQ and Wealth in a Box. Both have the potential to build whole business from scratch.

          Thanks dude. Appreciate it.

          AutoTrafficMonopoly has done 8200 units and $500K since yesterday LOL
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          • Profile picture of the author jrafique
            Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis View Post

            Thanks dude. Appreciate it.

            AutoTrafficMonopoly has done 8200 units and $500K since yesterday LOL
            Yeh I know that the buzz is huge because almost all big guys are blasting emails. They really don't do this when there is some quality product to offer because they have to sell something new daily
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            • Profile picture of the author Joe118
              Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

              Yeh I know that the buzz is huge because almost all big guys are blasting emails. They really don't do this when there is some quality product to offer because they have to sell something new daily
              This is KEY. The products must *not* satisfy the buyer, that's by design, otherwise they don't buy again. If they bought the product plus a couple of upsells, maybe some of it will stick and not be refunded, and then... it's on to the next one!
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          • Hi Jamie

            Obviously somebody at ATM can't count. 300 units only no matter how you say it still doesn't equal 8200. :confused:

            They should sack the person "stupid enough" to only target 300 sales eh?

            $500K is a pretty good day at the office - lets hope 99.9999% of them refund as that should tell Clickbank something about these people. :rolleyes:

            Regards

            Bronwyn and Keith
            Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis View Post

            Thanks dude. Appreciate it.

            AutoTrafficMonopoly has done 8200 units and $500K since yesterday LOL
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            • Profile picture of the author davidmeeonline
              I did a mass unsubscribe when I got sucked into Turbo profit sniper a while back. I think at leat 10 different people were sending out the same emails.

              I guess I have to do it again, a couple of Auto traffic monopoly emails came through recently.

              One of lifes evils as an internet marketer I suppose!
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            • Profile picture of the author jrafique
              Originally Posted by bronke13 View Post

              Hi Jamie

              Obviously somebody at ATM can't count. 300 units only no matter how you say it still doesn't equal 8200. :confused:

              They should sack the person "stupid enough" to only target 300 sales eh?

              $500K is a pretty good day at the office - lets hope 99.9999% of them refund as that should tell Clickbank something about these people. :rolleyes:

              Regards

              Bronwyn and Keith
              Auto Traffic Avalanche started this push button traffic and the game is on from that time as ATA got great sales. They are exploiting newbies and we might be only the 5% of their lists.

              An interesting thing:
              I just saw someone posted a job on freelancer.com to setup ATM for him

              See here:

              Auto Traffic Monopoly | Website Design
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              • Profile picture of the author Candle
                Thank you all.

                Reading this thread has saved me from wasting time. I wish I had remembered to check out WF before jumping into MPP.

                I would like to see clickbank get their act together, this method of quick fix sales is bad for the industry.

                How about a 'sticky' list of IM's that have let the side down by putting out poor quality sales pages like this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        I'm finally starting to see what the problem is with all these blind offers...

        I used to defend these types of pages saying they were finely tuned sales messages... but this is getting a bit out of hand.

        Take a look at the top 10 products on CB. Mine and EVP are the only offers up there that is are straight offers, the rest are magical softwares written blindly.

        What this is encouraging every marketer to do is turn their sales letters blind - heck, I even regret keeping my offer straight because I know had I gone blind I would have made twice or even three times the amount of money on my launch.

        This is going to create a never ending circle of blind offers (since no one buys straight offers anymore).

        What's going to happen as all these offers burn out the newbie, entry level customers? Well... the majority of the newbies are going to give up, meaning that the amount of experienced people who can distinguish a legitimate offer from a pie in the sky offer is going to get smaller and smaller.

        It's going to be VERY interesting to see what happens over the next few months as everyone burns out their lists and trust on these blind offers.

        Honestly... I'm slightly worried about what is going to happen in the long term if this non-sense keeps up.
        Dan,

        I am so glad you are starting to see that

        I know we've had some back and forth in a thread or two usually with you being on the end of these kinds of offers being "OK" , but like I said, good to see you realizing what this crap is doing to the community as a whole.
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  • Profile picture of the author AUKev
    My Inbox appreciates all these crappy offers. I have been unsubscribing as fast as I can hit the button on this crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author AMangones
    I think any business model who is based on an automated "push-button" software to generate income is doomed to fail.
    Best model -> create your own business model and start with the basics... then you will find a place for the all the tools you want to buy.
    In other words, the tools should be used for automation, not for building your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author ebiz4u
    It is sad that I've bought a ton of crap and some good. My rule is if I get one good unique idea that puts $$ in my pocket then I think it's worth the price.

    The sad deal is that those who are desperately trying to make money online, lost their job, house, family, dog etc are putting their last dough in these 'you will be rich, I guarantee' products and don't make a cent more or at all after reading and following the directions.

    Article marketing works but has to be done very carefully, with anchor text, bio's and quality articles that people will exactly read. It takes time and dedication which many don't have especially when their life is falling apart.

    I have been there, done that and don't want to ever be there again, but my heart goes out to the tons of desperate marketers...just the opposite of those dizzy broads on 'desperate housewives...' who don't know the meaning of the word.

    My rant for the week. )
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul D Brady
      Same old, same old. I am glad to be part of the Warrior Forum as it has for sure saved me tons of cash from stupid bs sales pages like this.

      Clickbank doesn't care as they make money whatever - same as this guy. If you really want to make a serious long term business, steer clear of CB (just my opinion).

      Shame not everyone can check here first before buying.

      Gratitude & Power to the 'honest' Warriors in here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cisco
    I bought it....

    I returned it....

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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    This product is now 885.86 Gravity!? What I dont get is how anyone would buy it then not refunded it, as its just junk. Maybe though for the newbies they dont know how to refund?
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  • Profile picture of the author franamico
    Hi there,
    In regard to auto traffic monopoly, I must say that the strategy it uses is really, really powerful. The software just makes it much much quicker to post your content on some highly ranking sites using a very smart but simple SEO strategy.

    I am on first page for all my selected keywords AND more...

    HOWEVER!!!!

    The software had a bug. I recently tried to launch it and it SYSTEMATICALLY crashes during the update phase.

    On Top of that...

    I wrote something like 10 emails to Mr Wallace and, to date, I got No reply!!!

    This is really a shame. Because I really like the software.

    Now I just can'y start it...and if I get no answer, I'm gonna have to ask for a refund.

    So, if you are there Andrew Wallace, I want you to know that your software is amazing and powerful.

    You just have to use some of the money you are making each single day to pay somebody to provide REAL customer support and REAL updates to your application
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  • Profile picture of the author Raja Kamil
    Err..should I scream to all the Gurus?
    "STOP BS us newbie."
    I just bought it a few hours ago.
    Tried the software, I waste my time, creating profile, so that I can work with the software, but it worthless, the so called automated SEO software is doom fail.

    STAY AWAY. Just stay away.

    PS : After 5 Upsell, I gonna think this is the worth year ever for guru's product on Clicbank.
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    • Profile picture of the author cofton25
      I've just noticed that nearly all the posts on here are saying things like, it's BS, it's rubbish, it won't work, it's doomed to fail, why do people buy this stuff etc etc etc.... yet most comments are from people who haven't purchased it or tried it.

      I didn't think this forum was about what we think or feel about a product, I thought it was about proving by trial and error. There are only a few posts from people who have actually bought it and tried it, one was quite positive and called it 'powerful'.

      Now correct me if I'm wrong but I think I would at least take more notice of something said from an actual purchaser of a product than from someone who hasn't purchased...... the people who haven't tried it don't know.... they are just guessing. Now maybe they are right but they could be wrong.

      Has anyone maybe considered that the software 'maybe' a useful addition to their other methods ? Maybe the software 'may' save them a little time and add to their traffic ? For $37 then if I get more traffic at no cost and little time then I would consider using it.

      And at the end of the day, if it's total BS and doesn't bring any traffic then I just click my way back to CB and get a refund..... easy peasy lol.

      Why we have to go all out on a slanging match about the product and dismissing it as crap (without even trying it out lol) and a 'I'm so glad I came here cos the WF has saved me more money again...'...... Come on guys, most of us come here to find an excuse not to purchase a product or you might be someone who thinks the product will stop you purchasing their product lol.

      If you're curious then go and buy it and try it, then come back here and tell us your experience, you've nothing to lose cos if it doesn't do what it says on the tin then get your refund, CB are good for it, we all know they will refund you, they wouldn't still be in business if they didn't.

      I have never read so many negatives about a product from people who haven't bought and tried it.... it's ludicrous lol.

      I'm going to buy it now, if it's crap I'll come back and say so and then get my refund from CB.

      But if it works just a little (I don't expect to make shedloads of cash cos I'm a realist ;-)) even if it brings in a few extra orders in exchange for a little bit of my time then for me it's worth $37 of anyone's money.

      It's so easy to join the 'crowd' and all get on the band wagon of calling it rubbish without even trying it. It is the worst error anyone can make about any product or service... and that is judging without trying. How would you feel if someone made a judgement about your product and they hadn't even tried it ?

      And as far as 'upsells' and 7 or 10 of them being a bad thing ? Well this is the industry we work in, we all expect upsells the same as we expect the 'knockdown special offer price', as well as we expect the guarantees, and as well as we expect the usual $97 or $197 or the $297 selling price (whoever thought of these selling prices lol)) Why don't we sell like the High Street at $20 or $50 or $100 or $200 ? It's because we are all programmed to expect this format of selling by the masses....It's the way it is..... what we expect.

      But what we should never expect is to hear from numerous people slagging any product off without trying it, without experiencing, without at least accepting that maybe, just maybe, the product has a place in the numerous marketing tactics we use.
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      • Profile picture of the author Raja Kamil
        Originally Posted by cofton25 View Post

        I've just noticed that nearly all the posts on here are saying things like, it's BS, it's rubbish, it won't work, it's doomed to fail, why do people buy this stuff etc etc etc.... yet most comments are from people who haven't purchased it or tried it.

        I didn't think this forum was about what we think or feel about a product, I thought it was about proving by trial and error. There are only a few posts from people who have actually bought it and tried it, one was quite positive and called it 'powerful'.

        Now correct me if I'm wrong but I think I would at least take more notice of something said from an actual purchaser of a product than from someone who hasn't purchased...... the people who haven't tried it don't know.... they are just guessing. Now maybe they are right but they could be wrong.

        Has anyone maybe considered that the software 'maybe' a useful addition to their other methods ? Maybe the software 'may' save them a little time and add to their traffic ? For $37 then if I get more traffic at no cost and little time then I would consider using it.

        And at the end of the day, if it's total BS and doesn't bring any traffic then I just click my way back to CB and get a refund..... easy peasy lol.

        Why we have to go all out on a slanging match about the product and dismissing it as crap (without even trying it out lol) and a 'I'm so glad I came here cos the WF has saved me more money again...'...... Come on guys, most of us come here to find an excuse not to purchase a product or you might be someone who thinks the product will stop you purchasing their product lol.

        If you're curious then go and buy it and try it, then come back here and tell us your experience, you've nothing to lose cos if it doesn't do what it says on the tin then get your refund, CB are good for it, we all know they will refund you, they wouldn't still be in business if they didn't.

        I have never read so many negatives about a product from people who haven't bought and tried it.... it's ludicrous lol.

        I'm going to buy it now, if it's crap I'll come back and say so and then get my refund from CB.

        But if it works just a little (I don't expect to make shedloads of cash cos I'm a realist ;-)) even if it brings in a few extra orders in exchange for a little bit of my time then for me it's worth $37 of anyone's money.

        It's so easy to join the 'crowd' and all get on the band wagon of calling it rubbish without even trying it. It is the worst error anyone can make about any product or service... and that is judging without trying. How would you feel if someone made a judgement about your product and they hadn't even tried it ?

        And as far as 'upsells' and 7 or 10 of them being a bad thing ? Well this is the industry we work in, we all expect upsells the same as we expect the 'knockdown special offer price', as well as we expect the guarantees, and as well as we expect the usual $97 or $197 or the $297 selling price (whoever thought of these selling prices lol)) Why don't we sell like the High Street at $20 or $50 or $100 or $200 ? It's because we are all programmed to expect this format of selling by the masses....It's the way it is..... what we expect.

        But what we should never expect is to hear from numerous people slagging any product off without trying it, without experiencing, without at least accepting that maybe, just maybe, the product has a place in the numerous marketing tactics we use.
        I bought it a few hours ago, I bet you won't find it working as I was.
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      • Profile picture of the author PhoebeSmellyCat
        Originally Posted by cofton25 View Post

        I've just noticed that nearly all the posts on here are saying things like, it's BS, it's rubbish, it won't work, it's doomed to fail, why do people buy this stuff etc etc etc.... yet most comments are from people who haven't purchased it or tried it.
        I get where you're coming from but I think people are commenting more on the ethics. He promises to deliver the magic potion when all it basically is is information you could probably glean right here in this forum, for free.

        Another factor seems to be that the sales page promises one thing ("No more writing boring articles!") and the product delivers another ("Write articles and use our software to submit them").

        And how can you have a CB gravity of over 800, meaning (correct me if I'm wrong) that more than 800 affiliates have sold at least one of these products, if "Only 300 will be sold!"?


        Originally Posted by cofton25 View Post

        I didn't think this forum was about what we think or feel about a product, I thought it was about proving by trial and error. There are only a few posts from people who have actually bought it and tried it, one was quite positive and called it 'powerful'.
        There were a couple of people here that reviewed the software but it seems to either crash or stop working and they can't contact the owner to fix that problem.

        If you do try it out, please post back and let us know how it worked out.
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  • Profile picture of the author PhoebeSmellyCat
    I just got an email offering to pay me to try it out. "Buy it, send me your transaction # and I will refund you via Paypal"

    Anyone else get this email?
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    • Profile picture of the author Raja Kamil
      Originally Posted by PhoebeSmellyCat View Post

      I just got an email offering to pay me to try it out. "Buy it, send me your transaction # and I will refund you via Paypal"

      Anyone else get this email?
      I got it too.
      But, read his another email.
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      • Profile picture of the author jrafique
        Originally Posted by Raja Kamil View Post

        I got it too.
        But, read his another email.
        I know about whom you are talking about. I was astonished on that and he realized his mistake soon
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        • Profile picture of the author Raja Kamil
          Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

          I know about whom you are talking about. I was astonished on that and he realized his mistake soon
          Shhh.....don't let other know about him.
          His newsletter is quite informative.

          Just lately he quite quiet.
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          • Profile picture of the author jrafique
            Originally Posted by Raja Kamil View Post

            Shhh.....don't let other know about him.
            His newsletter is quite informative.

            Just lately he quite quiet.
            But I know his strategy that what he was going to do. But it was again astonishing that why he did not continue because a new contest of $2000 for first place was started. You should understand now. If not let me know I will explain more
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            • Profile picture of the author Raja Kamil
              Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

              But I know his strategy that what he was going to do. But it was again astonishing that why he did not continue because a new contest of $2000 for first place was started. You should understand now. If not let me know I will explain more
              Here what I understand.
              He was offering the rebate so that he can push so many sales right?
              But, doesn't this product is quite "old" to run the contest?

              Hurm, wonder.

              PS : Looking at the JV forum, but no clue.
              Please explain more.
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              • Profile picture of the author jrafique
                Originally Posted by Raja Kamil View Post

                Here what I understand.
                He was offering the rebate so that he can push so many sales right?
                But, doesn't this product is quite "old" to run the contest?

                Hurm, wonder.

                PS : Looking at the JV forum, but no clue.
                Please explain more.
                No. A new contest started yesterday night of $2000 for first position, $1000 for second and $500 for 3rd. Yes he want to push more sales to win the contest of $2000 for first position.
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                • Profile picture of the author hitesh93
                  Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

                  No. A new contest started yesterday night of $2000 for first position, $1000 for second and $500 for 3rd. Yes he want to push more sales to win the contest of $2000 for first position.
                  I think I know quite well whom you're talking about LOL!

                  Okay, here's the full scoop. I've gotten 20-30 emails from people asking about this - yet I didn't promote because I NEVER promote anything without reviewing it. Then I started getting emails from people asking why I was 'withholding' products like this one from them.
                  So, I figured instead of spending 3 hours reviewing the product, intereviewing the owner and so on like I always do, I might just give everyone a free shot at it. If I'd cared about sales and such, I would've continuing pushing through, not told everyone just a few hours later to stop and not continue.

                  Overall, after I reviewed it properly, I realized this wasn't something I wanted to lend me name to. That's all.

                  I actually found out about the new contest a few hours AFTER I sent the email, which stinks.

                  So no, it wasn't for winning a contest (else why would I tell everyone 8 hours later not to purchase from my links as I don't want the commissions from promoting something 'shady')?
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                  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
                    Originally Posted by hitesh93 View Post

                    I think I know quite well whom you're talking about LOL!

                    Okay, here's the full scoop. I've gotten 20-30 emails from people asking about this - yet I didn't promote because I NEVER promote anything without reviewing it. Then I started getting emails from people asking why I was 'withholding' products like this one from them.
                    So, I figured instead of spending 3 hours reviewing the product, intereviewing the owner and so on like I always do, I might just give everyone a free shot at it. If I'd cared about sales and such, I would've continuing pushing through, not told everyone just a few hours later to stop and not continue.

                    Overall, after I reviewed it properly, I realized this wasn't something I wanted to lend me name to. That's all.

                    I actually found out about the new contest a few hours AFTER I sent the email, which stinks.

                    So no, it wasn't for winning a contest (else why would I tell everyone 8 hours later not to purchase from my links as I don't want the commissions from promoting something 'shady')?
                    I really appreciate man. We need people like you who think about the end user. You certainly want to win the contest but it is good that you reviewed it and decided against it.

                    You are not launching any new product in near future, but when you do let me know if I could help you with anything apart from the sales I will make
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  • Profile picture of the author tedwood
    Can i just have my input on this.
    Firstly i seriously believe the guy about getting scammed out of $18,000. It all makes sense ... he gets scammed by buying all the gurus trash then goes into debt. He then realises they just make the money from the product they sell and so he decided to get his revenge on them. He even stated in the video that he "Is getting back all the gurus".
    Either way i feel sorry for him but what it says to me is .. damn revenge is a strong emotion.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    A sad ubot level tool to post some articles, does not even have spin capability. A joke.
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    • Profile picture of the author franamico
      Hello again guys,
      I've read most of the thread and I completely agree with those who are tired gurus with short sighted mindsets...

      Anyway, let me give you an update on ATM.

      The software is really powerful. The SEO strategy is based on posting on 7 diffferent Web 2.0 blogs with high ranking. Among these, wordpress.com and blog.ca.

      The software allows you to upload 7 diffrent articles and post them in these blogs for less than 5 minutes (it takes almost 2 hours to do it manually). The software also allows you to add an anchored keyword pointing to wherever you like (e.g., your main blog.

      On top of that it links all blogs with a "related post link". According to Wallace this will help increase the rank of your main blog posts.

      HOWEVER...and its a BIG however...

      Both Wordpress and blog.ca have issues with all this.

      To date wordpress has suspended my account and blog.ca has deleted all my blogs in less than 48 hours.

      This is very unfortunate as ATM doesn't allow to choose which blogs you want to include in the system (I guess programming the software for other websites can be really tricky).

      Also, I think the software could be improved adding a feature that allows the user to choose the blog category where to post the content.

      Finally, as already mentioned, Mr Wallace doesn't reply to emails and provides no customer support.


      So, although I really like both the idea and the software I donàt feel recommending it.

      I hope that Mr Wallace understands that he has created a really good piece of software and will improve his currently very poor service.
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      • Profile picture of the author jrafique
        Originally Posted by franamico View Post

        The software is really powerful. The SEO strategy is based on posting on 7 diffferent Web 2.0 blogs with high ranking. Among these, wordpress.com and blog.ca.
        Actually people are sick of blind landing pages. ATM would sell more if they have about 25-30 web 2.0 sites like the existing one and with specifically explaining what buyer will get in $39. The reason it would sell more is because linkwheel creation software's like senuke, rank builder etc. are costly and have monthly subscriptions.
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      • Profile picture of the author mish_h
        re: customer support and answering emails being poor, that seems to be the new way all the Gurus are dealing with problems, ignore them until they go away!
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  • Profile picture of the author Keithsco
    heh . . .tsk tsk . . a . . a . . ANOTHER scam product ??? . . . . Nooooooo . . . couldn't be could it !

    Not for $37.00 and making thousands for you . . . .lol. Guys . . why even bother looking. I get sick of this crap

    we all know the make money online niche is full of scams and scammers. we don't have to look very far to find them either

    my 2 cents says promote real products in REAL niches
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  • Profile picture of the author gregoryburrus
    Like others I love the automation but agree the Warrior forum save me. The other reviews are so full of garbage and its funny how the top review on Google most times isnt a review but a review site about whats coming. It has like one line on this product. so much for all the great SEO strategy being real when a first page review doesn't even detail the product.

    And so much for all the pushbutton strategies, since all you have do is open a blog on Wordpress.com and add one affiliate link and they always shut you down, yet another product will be coming out soon and the gurus know it. This was junk before it started.

    Thanks again guys. Great real world reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author oniram
    What a joke! same old rages to riches story with a phony ClickBank account that most every one on the WF has see many times. One guru slamming other gurus to prove to newbies that their product will make you money.
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  • Profile picture of the author benjio
    Awesome comments as ever! No buy here, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerard Mohamed
    Every dog "gets his day" but this unscrupulous culprit who behaves exactly the same if not worse than some gurus, will definitely "get his weekend". I wonder sometimes whether those reputable online marketers who undorsed the product, do not feel ashamed in any way.
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  • Profile picture of the author gpxint
    Ahhh yes... another 'product re-launch' from 2010.

    My question is is when these products are re-launched, are they really
    any different or improved from when they were originally launched?
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  • Profile picture of the author cup243
    How the hell can these scams be succesful??? Doesn't every single buyer request a refund???
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  • Profile picture of the author Tgro
    One of these marketing emails made its way to my personal email and I watched the whole 25 minute video and wondered if could be true? I've only been on this site about a week and I noticed the price of ATM was $37. Deep down I was pretty certain it was a scam but noticed all the references were from 2010. I knew I needed to come here and search for this product and found this thread which confirms for me its a scam.

    The funny thing is my Warrior Room fee was $37 too. Now, I could of done a search on this and found out for free here. But I figure the $37 I didn't blow on this bogus product just paid for my Warrior Room fee by coming here and saving the money.
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