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Anyone familure with Traffic Crusher? What's your review? What's it all about?

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    • Profile picture of the author JazzOscar
      Originally Posted by getmorebuyers View Post

      Use the advanced feature to do a search. You may find what you are looking for.
      Have you perhaps tried that yourself with that frase?

      Not every answer is to be found that way.

      In fact, it's a product that's just out. I got an email about it between 3 and 4 hours ago.
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      • Profile picture of the author jnapier
        Based on what I see it looks like a really stinky deal for unknowing internet marketers.

        Safe Lists are one of the things they are promoting in the list. As I see it, as safe list is just a list of marketers marketing to marketers. You see ALOT of saturation. Do people buy from them, maybe...but I doubt you'll make a $495 sale to that list. Maybe a $10 sale.

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        • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
          Originally Posted by jnapier View Post

          Based on what I see it looks like a really stinky deal for unknowing internet marketers.

          Safe Lists are one of the things they are promoting in the list. As I see it, as safe list is just a list of marketers marketing to marketers. You see ALOT of saturation. Do people buy from them, maybe...but I doubt you'll make a $495 sale to that list. Maybe a $10 sale.

          Jay NaPier
          Did you watch the same video I did, y'know the one that's over 30 mins. long? I didn't even see safe lists mentioned. They talked about paid advertising (PPC was only 10% or less of what the video talked about).

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          Originally Posted by jnapier View Post

          Based on what I see it looks like a really stinky deal for unknowing internet marketers.

          Safe Lists are one of the things they are promoting in the list. As I see it, as safe list is just a list of marketers marketing to marketers. You see ALOT of saturation. Do people buy from them, maybe...but I doubt you'll make a $495 sale to that list. Maybe a $10 sale.

          Jay NaPier
          Like Rod, I'm wondering; Are we talking about the same product at all?:confused:

          I didn't have time to watch a video more than 30 minutes long when I received the offer, but I kind of scanned through the sales letter. I don't quite see where you're comment comes from.

          Apart from the price tag of the product being a little high for me in my current situation, I see nothing wrong with the product itself. The people behind the product are knowledgeable. I also recognize some trustworthy persons among the ones giving their testimonials in the sales letter.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    From my view of the sales video it covers PPV, CPA and Banners among other things. It is designed for the 'ready to move to the next level'" marketer who wants to learn more about the business advertising side of traffic.

    You will need a budget to buy and action this. It would suit someone who already has products that convert and needs to look beyond Google for traffic. Especially for mass market 'broad appeal' offers.

    I have not seen the product and can't say if it is good or not.
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    Looks like a load of rubbish.
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    • Profile picture of the author jnapier
      Based on what I saw in the video. It talks about big lists that you've got to pay to get into that allow you to email large numbers of people. The description sounds like safe lists. I might be wrong on this...but that's why I'm asking if anyone know about this.

      I didn't watch the whole thing. After I realized that what they were describing could be safe lists. I decided not to look further and ask the warriors.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by jnapier View Post

    Anyone familure with Traffic Crusher? What's your review? What's it all about?

    Jay NaPier
    What I don't understand is that you first ask if anyone is familiar with Traffic Crusher and then you ask what it's all about. Since you've never tried the program and didn't really get a whole lot of feedback from actual users (it is new) you then come to the conclusion that it's a "stinky deal" based on what little you saw.

    I've always reserved judgment on products / services unless I've actually used and tested them. I'm not saying Traffic Crusher is a good or bad program because I haven't personally used it but at least I don't assume it's a bad progam or "stinky deal" because I simply haven't used it.

    One thing I do know for sure is that if it wasn't for paid advertising I would have never been able to grow my enterprise to the level it has. If you carefully watch the entire video you'll see that it's a whole lot more than safelists. They also talk about CPA networks and how to get on them, a very hush-hush secret that people seldom talk about because it works. Most multi-millionaire marketers that I've met in person uses paid advertising, that speaks volumes to me.

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    • Profile picture of the author jnapier
      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      What I don't understand is that you first ask if anyone is familiar with Traffic Crusher and then you ask what it's all about. Since you've never tried the program and didn't really get a whole lot of feedback from actual users (it is new) you then come to the conclusion that it's a "stinky deal" based on what little you saw.

      I've always reserved judgment on products / services unless I've actually used and tested them. I'm not saying Traffic Crusher is a good or bad program because I haven't personally used it but at least I don't assume it's a bad progam or "stinky deal" because I simply haven't used it.

      One thing I do know for sure is that if it wasn't for paid advertising I would have never been able to grow my enterprise to the level it has. If you carefully watch the entire video you'll see that it's a whole lot more than safelists. They also talk about CPA networks and how to get on them, a very hush-hush secret that people seldom talk about because it works. Most multi-millionaire marketers that I've met in person uses paid advertising, that speaks volumes to me.

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      Thanks for posting Rod,

      One of the great things about this forum is getting others input. As I see it, a safe list is junk. But, the other stuff I'm not familure with...so I came here for others input. My judgement was not on the product, but on the safelists.

      Rod, could you expand upon the other items mentioned in the video and your experience with them.

      Thanks

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      • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
        Originally Posted by jnapier View Post

        Thanks for posting Rod,

        One of the great things about this forum is getting others input. As I see it, a safe list is junk. But, the other stuff I'm not familure with...so I came here for others input. My judgement was not on the product, but on the safelists.

        Rod, could you expand upon the other items mentioned in the video and your experience with them.

        Thanks

        Jay NaPier
        Thanx for clarifying that Jay. Your sentence that said:

        Based on what I see it looks like a really stinky deal for unknowing internet marketers.

        Strongly insinuates the program, even though that's not what you meant. But I appreciate you clarifying what you meant.

        This thread isn't the place to expand on paid advertising, let's focus on the program itself since that's what the OP is about. If you want to learn more about paid advertising and how it works, I would start a new thread.

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    Jay,

    Paid traffic is the king for consistency, measurably and scalability. Once you go in, you will never be a BUM marketer...
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    • Profile picture of the author Abdul Aziz
      The Job Crusher team has a high quality membership site, so I'm inclined to trust that Traffic Crusher will a high quality product since its coming from the same team. And it is cool to think that you can still be successfull and make tons of money without having your site ranked in the search engines or dealing with SEO as was mentioned in the video. Its nice to know that we don't all have to be slaves to Google.
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      Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

      Jay,

      Paid traffic is the king for consistency, measurably and scalability. Once you go in, you will never be a BUM marketer...
      10-4 on that!
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      • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
        I agree the product is best suited to those that have some products up and running already, although of course it doesnt take long to set something up if you then know how to drive targetted traffic to it , so i then query why its so cheap if it is aimed at those supposedly making money already.
        Im confused, its seems priced at the higher end of newbie territory when if it really delivers what it promises, surely its worth more and the buyers should be already earning .

        These things fascinate me , pricing etc . so much undervaluing of stuff but then balancing it with it may get in X% more buyers so which gets more profit short and long term.

        Sorry to the OP, im waffling, Im also waiting for some feedback on it, good to here a cockney accent on camtasia though! He should be auditioning for the next Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels sequel what what.
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        • Profile picture of the author raamanand
          The video doesn't play completely. It's bufferring a lot and doesn't seem to go beyond the first 10 mins. or so.

          I don't think people will try too many times to let the video load to get to the actual sales page.

          Maybe they are losing sales... or is this a strategy!!??

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          • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
            Originally Posted by raamanand View Post

            The video doesn't play completely. It's bufferring a lot and doesn't seem to go beyond the first 10 mins. or so.

            I don't think people will try too many times to let the video load to get to the actual sales page.

            Maybe they are losing sales... or is this a strategy!!??

            Raam
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            Could also be your connecton...

            Or maybe a hiccup with S3 (were it streams from). Amazon has been known to slow down from time to time...

            It's certainly not a strategy.

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            • Profile picture of the author brand-all
              Ever heard that expression "Once Bitten, Twice Shy" ?

              That's what I first thought of when I saw the name of the program and who was behind it. Yes, I watched the video right through.

              I bought into Review Crusher which included membership to Job Crusher.

              Within minutes we all discovered that RC was a half baked Beta version of a review site building system. After the 3rd script update that still had many problems with it I opted outta there.

              Once you did have a single review page on-line all you saw was reviews (read Adverts) for products from the man behind it all. The same man who charged $497 upfront + $67 per month for the privalage of telling him what was wrong with his script, (& getting no reply from him).

              There was no mention of the product being "BETA" in the sales pitch video, or any real advice on monetizing the whole thing, so now I am very jaded by anything these guys say.

              My verdict......watch the video then go off and have a look at the Paid Traffic offerings and explore CPA for your business. But do it your way.
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              • Profile picture of the author mikefilsaime
                Originally Posted by brand-all View Post

                Ever heard that expression "Once Bitten, Twice Shy" ?


                I bought into Review Crusher which included membership to Job Crusher.


                There was no mention of the product being "BETA" in the sales pitch video, or any real advice on monetizing the whole thing, so now I am very jaded by anything these guys say.

                My verdict......watch the video then go off and have a look at the Paid Traffic offerings and explore CPA for your business. But do it your way.
                Hmmm.. No mention in the sales pitch video?
                Besides my "SAYING" it was in betain the PICTH video, let me know what you
                see at the top of EVERY SLIDE in the logo.

                2008-11-30_0402

                See where it said "Beta" in the logo.

                As stated, the project was made first for me and I shared the software with
                the world and we have imprived it to work beyond what was promised and as
                I still ask for new features, so do all the members get it.

                As you know, I own truthreviews.com and if you look at certain product in the
                IM world you can see I am using it and we are using it to earn several hundred
                per day in profits.

                ALSO was in the course in JOBCRUSHER that showed not only how to monetize it
                but how I am doing so. And we are now using the Traffic Crusher ideas
                to drive traffic to truthreviews.com

                Like anything else, most products are good when you just take action.

                SO I bet both SUCK if you don't use them as with every other good product
                you can buy online.

                RC is now out of beta and teh current version ROCKS as does the new stuff we are
                adding. - I know not b/c I sold it, but b/c I use it.

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                • Profile picture of the author Paul Timmons
                  Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

                  As you know, I own truthreviews.com and if you look at certain product in the
                  IM world you can see I am using it and we are using it to earn several hundred
                  per day in profits.
                  Are you honestly trying to say that truth reviews dot com earns several hundreds per day in profits? You must be kidding me. I don't really think that the respective website gets more than 100 uniques/month.
                  And by the way... Wasn't review crusher itself supposed to drive swarms of traffic to your website only due to its mere presence on the web?
                  A piece of advice to people: if you want to build something similar to what review crusher does for free (only with much better chances of actually succeeding), just install Wordpress which also has a nice review plugin. They are both free.
                  Cheers.
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                    Anybody actually end up purchasing this ?
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                  • Profile picture of the author mikefilsaime
                    Originally Posted by Paul Timmons View Post

                    Are you honestly trying to say that truth reviews dot com earns several hundreds per day in profits? You must be kidding me. I don't really think that the respective website gets more than 100 uniques/month.
                    And by the way... Wasn't review crusher itself supposed to drive swarms of traffic to your website only due to its mere presence on the web?
                    A piece of advice to people: if you want to build something similar to what review crusher does for free (only with much better chances of actually succeeding), just install Wordpress which also has a nice review plugin. They are both free.
                    Cheers.
                    Yes Paul. That is 100% true. We make 2 to 3 sales per day with that site using adwords to the reviews. We send them to the7figuresecrets.com with an add under every review just like we demonstrated should be done with review sites.

                    Each lead to the7figuresecrtes.com nets me over $300 in profit.

                    Do I really need to show you proof Paul. PLEASE ask me to show you proff of
                    my adwords traffic to the site and my sales that come from the URLS we use
                    in there.

                    I would love to embarrass you with the numbers for calling me out.

                    It shocks you so much that I actually take action? As I said in the video that
                    sold it. I made the script for me. And I figured many would like to also have a
                    script like that. Lestest build is just killer. EVERYTHING i ever wanted and
                    if a WP plugin would have doen the job, I would have just used the one
                    we used at MarketingProductReview.com. But that did not work from the
                    standpint of a marketer that wants to make money with a review site the
                    way that it should be done with adwords.

                    This type of strategy is being used by many to make a lot of money and
                    I do not see any of them doing it THIS WAY using WP script.

                    We get several thousands of visitros to that site EVERY MONTH and
                    it is nearly ALL Adwords. And we spend less than $3000 a month right
                    now and make over $20,000 per month in sales.

                    In the RC video, I showed the MAIN STRATEGY was to use adwords and
                    that is what we taight the people that paid for the product. I NEVER made
                    a claim that RC would brings "swarms of Traffic" with its mere presence on
                    the web.

                    I never made that claim about ANYTHING without taking some kind of action Paul.

                    Nice for you to just blurt things out. But next time, you really should keep quiet
                    when you talk about things you have no idea about and making up stuff with no
                    basis is even worse.

                    So Paul, I tell you what. I will make a deal with you. Send me a PM. And I will make
                    a private video showing you PROOF of my sales and proof it comes from my AdWords
                    account if you promise to post back in here how wrong you were, and apologize for
                    the accusation, about that site making 6 figure profits because I simply took action on a simple plan. Deal?

                    Heck, I bet if anyone took action even with the wordpress and the learning curve it
                    would take to set that up would still make profits if the took action. Maybe
                    Paul you can show everyone a FREE video of how you make money doing reviews
                    with wordpress and plugins. Hmmm? At least we did for our customers.

                    Sorry Everyone - I know this was about TC, but this guy makes a post about RC that was so way off base I had to put him in place.

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                    • Profile picture of the author markdsullivan
                      That was hilarious, Mike. Anyway, I bought Traffic Crusher, and like an hour later it was offline so, I was really glad I got in. One of the bonuses was 6 months free in Job Crusher so, that's really sweet and, I'm soakin up tons of IM knowledge in there.

                      As far as Traffic Crusher goes, the PPC section really helped me out a lot on building profitable campaigns, testing and tracking, and so forth.. James Cumner definitely knows what he's talking about, and like I said I was just happy to get in cus when Jobcrusher first hit the market I wanted in so bad but was just broke as a joke...

                      Anyway, TC rocks, paid traffic's off the chinnain... what else is there to say?

                      Oh, yea.. Thanks, Mike Filsaime!
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                    • Profile picture of the author Paul Timmons
                      Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

                      EVERYTHING i ever wanted and
                      if a WP plugin would have doen the job, I would have just used the one
                      we used at MarketingProductReview.com. But that did not work from the
                      standpint of a marketer that wants to make money with a review site the
                      way that it should be done with adwords.
                      Mike Filsaime
                      Oh, but please do tell me. Why would a Wordpress based review site not be suitable for making money with Adwords? (This should be good). And I do clearly remember that in your Review Crusher sales pitch (that 50 minutes long ordeal that couldn't even be fast forwarded) you said that these sites will be incredible from an SEO point of view, which in turn will create tons of free organic traffic. Maybe someone who watched the video can help me here?
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                      • Profile picture of the author mikefilsaime
                        Originally Posted by Paul Timmons View Post

                        Oh, but please do tell me. Why would a Wordpress based review site not be suitable for making money with Adwords? (This should be good). And I do clearly remember that in your Review Crusher sales pitch (that 50 minutes long ordeal that couldn't even be fast forwarded) you said that these sites will be incredible from an SEO point of view, which in turn will create tons of free organic traffic. Maybe someone who watched the video can help me here?
                        Funny peter, still now PM from you asking to see proof? I guess having to publicity
                        apologize to me for not knowing what you are talking about and stating that my
                        site is not making money is just too much for you to deal with, huh?

                        As for telling you why a custom site that has a built in ADD manager is better than
                        a word press blog... well sorry Paul, I do not owe you that. You are not a customer
                        of mine so I will save the lesson of "How to make $20,000 a month in sales with a
                        review site" to my paying customers. I have no issues with Word press. But when
                        you look at people have the BEST SUCCESS with a review site with adwords
                        they are using custom sites, not wordpress. Of course you can make money
                        writing reviews with a wordpress blog. But with a custom site that allows upload
                        of your outsourced reviews, ad management and stats, and better control of
                        rotaing and ad placements, you can do better with a script designed SPECIFICALLY
                        for this strategy.

                        You are confusing my HyperPlugin video that could not be fast forward it. That LONG ORDEAL, is called marketing. And you could fast forward the RC video. You seem to
                        be the same type of person that would aregue with a ling form sales letter. A message
                        needs to long enough to get the message to the reader, and not longer. So if a
                        4% conversion rate for a $497 product is an "Ordeal" looks like you need yet
                        another marketing lesson?

                        You are asking for help from someone who watche the video? How about from the
                        person that MADE the video. I went and found where I spoke of SEO for you.

                        Seems you are making up words again.

                        Here is what I said

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                        QUOTE:
                        "As you can see, these sites work well with the Search Engines, and they can
                        be TURBO CHARGED with Google Adwords."

                        Keep putting your foot in your mouth and I will keep proving you wrong. You
                        have an agenda but when you do not know the facts, I will prove you wrong
                        every time. I would love to see your video Paul where you make $20k per
                        month with your wordpress blog. Or AN strategy for that matter.

                        You seem to know a lot about telling people what to do. Why don't you show
                        then why they should listen to you? You like to tell people to save there money
                        and not listen to proven methods. Why shoudl anyone take your advice.

                        Oh, "Please do tell."
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                        • Profile picture of the author Paul Timmons
                          Ok, this was fun at first, but it is getting annoying. I don't really have the time for meaningless quarrels on forums.

                          Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

                          Seems you are making up words again.

                          Here is what I said

                          QUOTE:
                          "As you can see, these sites work well with the Search Engines, and they can
                          be TURBO CHARGED with Google Adwords."
                          I am not making up any words. Here's what you REALLY said in your video.
                          27.15: "Search engines absolutely love this type of web 2.0 stuff because members are going to create content. There's nothing else like this on the Internet".
                          29.54: "I'm also ranking my URLs for the reviews meaning this thing is gonna kick butt in the search engines as well".
                          30.51: "These sites work well with the search engines".
                          31.13: "It's ready for you to have traffic coming through either Google Adwords or from the search engines".


                          Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

                          Funny peter, still now PM from you asking to see proof? I guess having to publicity
                          apologize to me for not knowing what you are talking about and stating that my
                          site is not making money is just too much for you to deal with, huh?
                          I don't need any proof and I could care less about how much money your site is making. I don't trust this type of "proof" either.

                          Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

                          As for telling you why a custom site that has a built in ADD manager is better than
                          a word press blog...
                          I am pretty sure you meant AD manager. But hey, we don't need lessons in spelling basic Marketing terms even if we are marketers, right?

                          Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

                          But when
                          you look at people have the BEST SUCCESS with a review site with adwords
                          they are using custom sites, not wordpress.
                          Then why wouldn't I pay a freelancer to make me a custom site exactly the way I need it? It would cost me $200 instead of $1200 and I could use it over and over again, not just on one site.


                          Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

                          Keep putting your foot in your mouth and I will keep proving you wrong. You
                          have an agenda but when you do not know the facts, I will prove you wrong
                          every time. I would love to see your video Paul where you make $20k per
                          month with your wordpress blog. Or AN strategy for that matter.
                          I don't need to prove you or anybody anything because I am not in the niche of "making money by showing other people how to show other people how to make money" and I probably never will be. I prefer to keep my strategies to myself and you know why I do it? BECAUSE THEY WORK!

                          Now since you said that you prefer custom sites vs Wordpress sites when using Adwords... tell me, do you know what are the most important factors that will increase your Adwords campaign's quality score? And when you tell me that, also specify why Wordpress would not be suited for that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Knight51
          Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

          I agree the product is best suited to those that have some products up and running already, although of course it doesnt take long to set something up if you then know how to drive targetted traffic to it , so i then query why its so cheap if it is aimed at those supposedly making money already.
          Im confused, its seems priced at the higher end of newbie territory when if it really delivers what it promises, surely its worth more and the buyers should be already earning .

          These things fascinate me , pricing etc . so much undervaluing of stuff but then balancing it with it may get in X% more buyers so which gets more profit short and long term.

          Sorry to the OP, im waffling, Im also waiting for some feedback on it, good to here a cockney accent on camtasia though! He should be auditioning for the next Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels sequel what what.
          It's nice to hear a voice from this 'neck of the woods' (sorry couldn't resist a Local saying)!
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      • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
        Originally Posted by Stephon "Phon" Rudd View Post

        Thank you for pointing that out. Most people think paid traffic is a scam because they still look for a free way to make money...which is why they'll never be rich.

        You have to spend money. Big business does this all the time. What traffic crushers teach is how to advertise. That's it.

        And you know what people, that's NOT even an industry secret.

        Anyone who has gone to school for business and marketing will tell you that's a basic principle. The reason people keep looking for "secret" ways to promote your business online and make money is because they don't want to face the fact that it takes spending money to make money.

        It doesn't help that so many guru's lie to people about that. Yeah, you may make some money. But the real money is in advertising a good product.

        Once you learn that then, like James said, you'll make money all the time, consistently, for long periods of time.
        I couldn't agree more. Though I use free traffic methods using content, there's no way I could have gone from a one-man company that now employs over 9 virtual assistants and 2 part-time contractors, without using paid advertising. By increasing your channels of distribution and know how to track and convert your traffic can and will make you rich.

        In fact, when I'm done with my latest project I'm going to go through traffic crusher and give an honest review here. I'm always in "learning" mode and if I can pick up one nugget.....

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  • Profile picture of the author charles1
    Well......Jay....perhaps i can help you out a little. The product has absolutely nothing to do with safelists. Nothing.

    To me...it appears like you are confusing co-reg listbuilding with safelists. ah...they are not the same....not even close.

    I have read posts from you all over the internet Jay.....and...generally.....it seems like all your posts carry a negative, pessimistic tone to them. Just my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author jnapier
      I'm looking to gather information on Traffic Crusher and the guys behind it. There are a few positive posts sharing testimonials and one who had a bad experience.

      As I see it: So far, I'm interesting in learning more...but not a buyer.

      I've gotten a TON of the same info from other internet Gurus. I'm wondering if anyone here has bought the product?

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      • Profile picture of the author Emc2
        GREAT Day :-)

        I found this forum looking for reviews on Traffic Crusher ... I deffinately need structure and support ... BUT ... $497 (or $197x3) ... think, think, think ... search, find this site, register, confirm membership, edit my profile, go do something else ... remember WHY I registered on Warrior Forum and come back here ... where was I going?

        LOL!!! See what I mean? I think what I need more than a $500 e-course webinar, is a group of other like minded people working to be successful while helping others be as well ... hmmm ... so that is where I am going and what I am doing here :-)

        Thank you ~ I will save the $500 ( and my dear husbands wrath :-) and soak up what I may learn here ...
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  • Profile picture of the author digabot
    I haven't picked this up yet but I can tell you that James Cumner is one of the few people who has original traffic ideas and usually puts out some solid stuff.

    The information in the course is similar to Carlos and Lupe's stuff but probably not as detailed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vjack
      Hey digabot - You made an interesting point in alluding to Carlos and Lupe's course. They had a package for $25,000 - then another followed for I don't know how much? But this type of paid traffic - PPV & Banner ect is where the BIG money is being made and that's why Traffic Crusher caught my attention.

      You seem to know James Kumner's work. I can't find anything about him so could you please offer some info?
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  • Profile picture of the author brand-all
    "Like anything else, most products are good when you just take action".

    Exactly how do 'Take Action' with a script that doesn't work? If it was usable from the start I would have still been there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
    I am seriously considering getting this program. Paid traffic is the way to go. 100% but...

    I'd really like to know if there is anyone who has used it before I pay $497.00.


    Anyone?

    Best Wishes,

    Kenneth
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Paul,

    Mike didn't say Wordpress wouldn't be suited for this type of thing.

    He said he preferred using custom solutions. And he already stated why. In fact, he stated several reasons.

    Just thought I would point that out since you seemd to have missed it...
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Timmons
      Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

      Paul,

      Mike didn't say Wordpress wouldn't be suited for this type of thing.

      He said he preferred using custom solutions. And he already stated why. In fact, he stated several reasons.

      Just thought I would point that out since you seemd to have missed it...
      I am getting the impression that I really can't get my point across. Let me tell you about a few content management systems that can be customized exactly the way you want it: Joomla, Drupal and yes, Wordpress. These are all high quality systems that are FREE. Anyone who is just slightly willing to make money online can customize those to serve a lot of different purposes, including a thin spammy affiliate site, in the fashion of Review Crusher. Now I didn't necessarily say Review Crusher was bad, I suggested that its price tag is ridiculous, especially since there are so many other solutions available on the market for free. If it were let's say $50, although in my opinion it's not worth even that amount, maybe I'd even buy it.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by Paul Timmons View Post

        I am getting the impression that I really can't get my point across. Let me tell you about a few content management systems that can be customized exactly the way you want it: Joomla, Drupal and yes, Wordpress. These are all high quality systems that are FREE. Anyone who is just slightly willing to make money online can customize those to serve a lot of different purposes, including a thin spammy affiliate site, in the fashion of Review Crusher. Now I didn't necessarily say Review Crusher was bad, I suggested that its price tag is ridiculous, especially since there are so many other solutions available on the market for free. If it were let's say $50, although in my opinion it's not worth even that amount, maybe I'd even buy it.
        Paul,

        Your point IS taken. The bottom line is things come down to a personal choice.

        Also, free does not always equal better - even when you're talking about Wordpress, Joomla, etc. I have extensive experience with all of those and as robust as they can be and as many "free" plugins you can find, I STILL have had to abandon them for certain projects.

        The point Mike is making is simply that he found the WP free option does not suit his needs. And I know what he's talking about because I am intimately familiar with the site he tried it on.

        By and large, can a WP with free plugins do what TC/RC do? I am not sure, because I have never attempted to try. But I DO know - again, from experience - is that trying to get a WP blog to function the way you want can be a HUGELY time consuming proposition.

        For example, trying to make a Membership site based on WP with plugins - there are some very good BASIC things you can do, but some of the projects I wanted to do, I could NOT find ANY plugin(s) to make my WP membership site do exactly what I wanted it to do.

        Mike is saying the same thing with his experiences regaring review sites. He DID try the WP and free route. It did NOT work for him the way HE wanted it to, so he had RC coded for his needs. He released it because he knows this market and knows others would find as much use out of it as he does.

        The issue for Mike was NEVER that a WP review site would not work. In fact, in his post above he points out that where he found the WP shortcomings were mostly in ad rotation and management.

        I don't really know why you seem to take this stuff personally, but like I said, it's a matter of personal preference. If it's your thing to sway everyone you can from a paid product because you can "do the same thing for free...", then have a party.

        And finally, I can also attest to Mike's earnings claims on his Truth Reviews setup. Mike is an agressive marketer, there's no question. But he doesn't lie or make up stats.

        Anyway, like I said, nothing personal. You have fun with WP and Mike will have fun with RC.

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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Timmons
          MikeAmbrosio, I do like the way in which you talk. There's a certain feeling of calm I get when I read what you say and I don't want to argue with you in any way. I can understand the fact that you are being subjective and I can also understand why, considering the fact that you are probably a supporter or associate of Mike Filsaime (else why would you have the paydotcom widget and his blog in your blogroll?).

          Having said this, this conversation can't go on when only the 3 of us are participating. I am talking to myself, because Mike Filsaime is not willing even to consider the fact that his product might be flawed (an arrogance which can only come from a person who has low quality standards). You support him and that is understandable, as I already said.

          It's my personal belief that all of Mike Filsaime's products are garbage. It's not that I have something against him personally, it's the fact that I really don't like the type of Marketing he and others like him are doing. It's Marketing for the sake of Marketing, without any consideration towards quality... Oh, quality... funny, funny concept. Usually, a product which is extremely good doesn't need so much Marketing and yes, he is an aggressive marketer as you said... simply because the quality of his products and services leaves something to be desired.

          Having said this, until someone else besides the 3 of us has something to say on this subject, I am no longer posting in this thread because an hour of work today is worth 3 hours of work the next year... and I have a lot of work to do.

          Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
    It seems like this thread has got completely off target.

    Was it not meant to be about Traffic Crusher - a completely different program from Review Crusher - or am I seeing things?!

    Kenneth
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  • Profile picture of the author Fermin Suero
    I have only had positive remarks when it comes to Mike Filsaime's products. They have helped me immensly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Let's get back on track here.

      Who else has experienced Traffic Crusher? I would also like to see some reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author bert81
    Anything with James Cumner's name on it, I buy without question. Some of his tactics have made me thousands.
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