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CB Traffic Warrior

by mish_h
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Another HOT product about to be unleashed. Does anyone know anything about this one? Its from Andrew X
cbtrafficwarrior + . com
I managed to find an affiliate page - NOT my affiliate link, their affiliate page
use the main url just add jvinfo.html at the end
#traffic #warrior
  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    Not sure what it's about, but I reckon it will most likely be a good product, I met Andrew X at a seminar in September and he's one of the guys that make his money from niche marketing and not just teaching about it like many others, I'm interested to learn more about this product too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Valerio
    It's promoted by Philip Mansour and I really trust this guy. With Jeff Walker he's one of the few out there that really knows what to do, and create very good products.

    I'll take a closer look in an hour...

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    • Profile picture of the author DannyUK
      I bought this because I have a few neglected blogs that could do with a traffic boost but I'm busy with other things right now. The promo promised minimum effort and maximum results (don't they always) and at $47 I figured it was worth a punt.

      Eight or nine mouse wheel breaking up-sells and an overly complicated registration and login procedure later I was presented with a membership area that has a lot of menu options (mostly related to the up-sells I didn't buy) but essentially only one populated option which was the software download link. I guess everything else, such as the promised training, will be released later.

      The software download and install is painless enough. The procedure mentioned "Windows only", I'm not sure if it detected I was on a Windows machine or if it generally means Mac users are screwed.

      Lo and behold, I end up with an article spinner and auto-submitter. The usual stuff integrated with the usual article directories. It all looks very similar to the submitter that was included with Jonny Andrews' Cash System X but then I guess if you've seen one article submitter you've seen them all.

      Having to write a bunch of articles and then watch half of them get chewed up and rejected in the submission process is not my idea of saving time on a low priority project, so CB Traffic Warrior isn't for me.

      I guess if you want this type of software and the training that's promised then $47 isn't a terrible price, but it would have been highly useful if the promo had at least given a hint at the nature of the product.

      Not much else to say. Standard stuff, typical blind sell, I've put in for a refund as I already have the Cash System X submitter. So far nothing from the support team, not even a welcome email with login details. It's launch day so I'll give them a break, I'll let you know if there are any issues with the refund if it takes more than 7 days.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
        I think it's basically another article submission software program...if so, don't we already have enough of those out there? Guess everyone wants there own program to promote

        PS: If this is the case I'd highly recommend the new Article Demon Software...you can't go wrong!
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      • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
        Originally Posted by DannyUK View Post

        Lo and behold, I end up with an article spinner and auto-submitter. The usual stuff integrated with the usual article directories. It all looks very similar to the submitter that was included with Jonny Andrews' Cash System X but then I guess if you've seen one article submitter you've seen them all.
        The Best Spinner and UAW will probably do better job.
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      • Profile picture of the author EdnaM
        Originally Posted by DannyUK View Post

        I bought this because I have a few neglected blogs that could do with a traffic boost but I'm busy with other things right now. The promo promised minimum effort and maximum results (don't they always) and at $47 I figured it was worth a punt.

        Eight or nine mouse wheel breaking up-sells and an overly complicated registration and login procedure later I was presented with a membership area that has a lot of menu options (mostly related to the up-sells I didn't buy) but essentially only one populated option which was the software download link. I guess everything else, such as the promised training, will be released later.

        The software download and install is painless enough. The procedure mentioned "Windows only", I'm not sure if it detected I was on a Windows machine or if it generally means Mac users are screwed.

        Lo and behold, I end up with an article spinner and auto-submitter. The usual stuff integrated with the usual article directories. It all looks very similar to the submitter that was included with Jonny Andrews' Cash System X but then I guess if you've seen one article submitter you've seen them all.

        Having to write a bunch of articles and then watch half of them get chewed up and rejected in the submission process is not my idea of saving time on a low priority project, so CB Traffic Warrior isn't for me.

        I guess if you want this type of software and the training that's promised then $47 isn't a terrible price, but it would have been highly useful if the promo had at least given a hint at the nature of the product.

        Not much else to say. Standard stuff, typical blind sell, I've put in for a refund as I already have the Cash System X submitter. So far nothing from the support team, not even a welcome email with login details. It's launch day so I'll give them a break, I'll let you know if there are any issues with the refund if it takes more than 7 days.

        Exactly as you said....another of the same stuff...really!! And don't you hate all those OTOs...very annoying, and it seems everyone is doing them....I think one OTO is enough....
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        • Profile picture of the author DannyUK
          Well, 3 days in and no response regarding my request (several requests in fact) for a refund. Increasingly firm but polite requests I should add.

          I'm not going to spell it out explicitly, instead simply ask yourself the following question:

          What do you call a person or company who engages in profoundly misleading and wildly over-hyped promotion of a product, promises you a full refund should the product not be suitable, takes your money and then refuses to even acknowledge any attempt at communication?

          Yes, it's a nasty word but it's also warranted. There are so many of these types in this industry, it's depressing and makes it so much harder for the rest of us.

          So I'm calling it a day because to waste one more minute on a product that was allegedly designed to save me time just compounds a bad deal.

          This is a final note and a warning to all Warriors who may come across Andrew X and his band of affiliates in the future. Cross the street and keep your hand on your wallet!
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          • Profile picture of the author SniperSoftware
            Originally Posted by DannyUK View Post

            Well, 3 days in and no response regarding my request (several requests in fact) for a refund. Increasingly firm but polite requests I should add.
            Good thing you can email:

            refunds [at] clickbank [dot] com

            Give them your order number and ask for a refund, no reason required.
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            • Profile picture of the author DannyUK
              Originally Posted by SniperSoftware View Post

              Good thing you can email:

              refunds [at] clickbank [dot] com

              Give them your order number and ask for a refund, no reason required.
              Hi Sniper,

              It's more a useful than a good thing, like insurance. A better thing would be if certain marketers delivered on their promises - both in terms of the sales pitch and the after sales support.

              But you're right, it looks like I'll be putting in only my second ever Clickbank refund request. It's rare I get scammed and I hate it when it happens. It makes me feel dumb as a post and I want to kick myself in the rear end.

              I got caught this time because the product was recommended by a marketer who has always played it straight up to this point. In fact his main selling point is ethical marketing. Maybe he made a mistake, maybe he's turning over a new and unpleasant leaf, hard to judge on one incident.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jamie Lewis
            That product is on Clickbank. You need to contact clickbank for a refund.

            Originally Posted by DannyUK View Post

            Well, 3 days in and no response regarding my request (several requests in fact) for a refund. Increasingly firm but polite requests I should add.

            I'm not going to spell it out explicitly, instead simply ask yourself the following question:

            What do you call a person or company who engages in profoundly misleading and wildly over-hyped promotion of a product, promises you a full refund should the product not be suitable, takes your money and then refuses to even acknowledge any attempt at communication?

            Yes, it's a nasty word but it's also warranted. There are so many of these types in this industry, it's depressing and makes it so much harder for the rest of us.

            So I'm calling it a day because to waste one more minute on a product that was allegedly designed to save me time just compounds a bad deal.

            This is a final note and a warning to all Warriors who may come across Andrew X and his band of affiliates in the future. Cross the street and keep your hand on your wallet!
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            • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
              Hi Warriors

              It's a crying "shame" that so many of these covert sales pitches end up being pretty much the same product suite.

              Thanks to all those who were prepared to do some research for the rest of us.

              regards

              Bronwyn and Keith
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  • Profile picture of the author Valerio
    No please, don't tell me is an article submitter, again......................

    Two points on this:
    1) articles really works
    OR
    2) they (the so called gurus + indonesian/indian programmers) are without any new, original idea...

    Just my 2 cents,
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  • Profile picture of the author Bashty
    The exit popup gives you a 10$ discount. I actually expected another 10$ discount when I exited that one, but it just lead me to the orderform for the 37$ version.
    It looks pretty much like the traffic monopoly launch.

    "oh my god, you are going to make so much money, just with the push of a button, 99% of your time will be saved"
    Actually the most annoying thing for me is to write articles, I don't mind the submission at all.

    Also if you look at the JV page ( Andrew X Presents: CB Traffic Warrior ), you will see that he promises up to 697$ per sale and has a contest running to give the top affiliate 5000$. So well, it's again the usual crappy "newbies buy this and get rich" stuff. It's a shame that those products are promoted at all.
    I will hereby officially unsign from Anik S. 's list for promiting this product and from anyone else who also dares telling me that it's a good product.

    I have not bought this, only looked at the sales- und JV-page, but from what DannyUK said and what I have seen on these pages, it is again a over-hyped product, not meant to bring cash to the users, but to the people promoting it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      TBS + AMR FTW!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Bashty
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        TBS + AMR FTW!!
        Guess those are tools for article marketing?
        Could you write out the names for those people (:rolleyes who don't know exactly what those abbreviations mean?
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      • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        TBS + AMR FTW!!
        Ah but see, AMR is a monthly fee and TBS yearly. Most want low cost, one time fee, push button done. Not likely. Agreed that AMR + TBS FTW. I would add to that Article Architect.

        So: AA + TBS + AMR FTW!

        EDIT: AA = Article Architect (Can't do without this one as it keeps all articles organized and paired with Dragon Naturally Speaking and a Yeti microphone, seriously KICKS ASS)

        TBS = The Best Spinner

        AMR = Article Marketing Robot

        FTW = For The Win
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

          Ah but see, AMR is a monthly fee and TBS yearly. Most want low cost, one time fee, push button done. Not likely. Agreed that AMR + TBS FTW. I would add to that Article Architect.

          So: AA + TBS + AMR FTW!

          EDIT: AA = Article Architect (Can't do without this one as it keeps all articles organized and paired with Dragon Naturally Speaking and a Yeti microphone, seriously KICKS ASS)

          TBS = The Best Spinner

          AMR = Article Marketing Robot

          FTW = For The Win
          lol - I had no idea that AMR was a monthly payment...Guess I should keep a closer eye on what payments go out monthly, eh? lmao

          The more I play with the spinner chief, the more I'm leaning towards dropping the yearly on TBS...but, might keep it anyway as Jon updates it all the time and I can see it getting better and better.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sayed
      Originally Posted by Bashty View Post

      The exit popup gives you a 10$ discount. I actually expected another 10$ discount when I exited that one, but it just lead me to the orderform for the 37$ version.
      It looks pretty much like the traffic monopoly launch.

      "oh my god, you are going to make so much money, just with the push of a button, 99% of your time will be saved"
      Actually the most annoying thing for me is to write articles, I don't mind the submission at all.

      Also if you look at the JV page ( Andrew X Presents: CB Traffic Warrior ), you will see that he promises up to 697$ per sale and has a contest running to give the top affiliate 5000$. So well, it's again the usual crappy "newbies buy this and get rich" stuff. It's a shame that those products are promoted at all.
      I will hereby officially unsign from Anik S. 's list for promiting this product and from anyone else who also dares telling me that it's a good product.

      I have not bought this, only looked at the sales- und JV-page, but from what DannyUK said and what I have seen on these pages, it is again a over-hyped product, not meant to bring cash to the users, but to the people promoting it.
      Don't go too hard for the people promoting it as we all never realized what is the nature of this software. Andrew didn't allow his JVs a review copy of this software and it was a secret till 11am EST today. I had to write a review before i realize the nature of this software but when i knew what it really is, i added a paragraph with a large colored font in the middle of my review revealing the nature of this software, so that, who wants to buy it will be responsible for what he is doing and not being deceived by Andrew that it is push a button software. After all, some newbies don't have such softwares and some may like it.
      BTW, Andrew said that the software is $67 but today it is only $47!!!
      I'm not going to promote any product by this Andrew X again...
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      • Profile picture of the author Bashty
        Originally Posted by Sayed View Post

        Don't go too hard for the people promoting it as we all never realized what is the nature of this software. Andrew didn't allow his JVs a review copy of this software and it was a secret till 11am EST today. I had to write a review before i realize the nature of this software but when i knew what it really is, i added a paragraph with a large colored font in the middle of my review revealing the nature of this software, so that, who wants to buy it will be responsible for what he is doing and not being deceived by Andrew that it is push a button software. After all, some newbies don't have such softwares and some may like it.
        BTW, Andrew said that the software is $67 but today it is only $47!!!
        I'm not going to promote any product by this Andrew X again...
        Okay, okay, convinced me.
        Sorry for being so hard, I see how it's very interesting for people to promote too. I'm just very angry about all those launches that are promising so much and noobies are believing it and wasting their money...
        I mean, I actually thought about spending money for it, if it would have done a great deal of submissions, like social bookmarking, rss feeds to loads of directories, pinging, indexing etc.
        But seriously: article spinning and submission?
        I'm sure you can get a PRL piece of software that won't be that expensive and the highest cost to creating the product will be to make it look nice and professional.

        I really don't mind spending money for a good piece of software, but promising riches with the push of the button and then giving an article submitter and spinner is just... wrong. It's dishonest. Those are the people who give honest internet marketers a hard time, because people will feel scammed by those false promises.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by Bashty View Post

          Okay, okay, convinced me.
          Sorry for being so hard, I see how it's very interesting for people to promote too. .
          No it's not...

          If you have a list you don't promote or recommend things to them if YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WHETHER IT'S ANY GOOD.

          Nothing hard about that.

          Unfortunately, this is a greedy space and people start promoting products MONTHS before they are even launched by putting up review sites about how good the product is before it's even made.
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          • Profile picture of the author Niteprowler
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            No it's not...

            If you have a list you don't promote or recommend things to them if YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WHETHER IT'S ANY GOOD.

            Nothing hard about that.

            Unfortunately, this is a greedy space and people start promoting products MONTHS before they are even launched by putting up review sites about how good the product is before it's even made.
            Exactly

            and... if the product were truly unique or better... then they should reveal what it is and what it does that all the others don't. Sell WHY it's so much better and let it stand on its own. But they don't. They sell the sizzle... blind sizzle. The steak is only a hot dog.

            Unfortunately, most of these "new" software releases are nothing new at all and are seldom near best in class. Usually they are at the low end of what's available. (Not bashing this product... I haven't seen it).
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          • Profile picture of the author Sayed
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            No it's not...

            If you have a list you don't promote or recommend things to them if YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WHETHER IT'S ANY GOOD.

            Nothing hard about that.

            Unfortunately, this is a greedy space and people start promoting products MONTHS before they are even launched by putting up review sites about how good the product is before it's even made.
            Well, you are 100% right if you are talking about email marketing BUT what about SEO? You need to set your pages long time before the launch to get top rankings specially if you have a new site.
            For myself, i never say something is good or bad, i just prepare pages with NO info about the product till i access it and tell people honestly what they get as members BUT today i didn't access this product even 2 hours b4 the launch and if you read my review i told my visitors that "There's nothing called push a button riches" even before i know what this software is.
            When i realized the truth, i added the nature of the software so, they know what they are going for...
            I don't want to deceive anyone as i was deceived many times in the past... There's no greed here (Well, i talk about myself actually )
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Originally Posted by valdivz View Post

      LOL Jeremy what is AMR and FTW????
      Article Marketing Robot

      Someone would have to put out something pretty damn impressive in the article submission space to compete with what AMR does. Combine it with The Best Spinner or "spinner chief" as a free alternative, and you have a combination that won't soon be beaten by any of these recent launches.

      It's like one of these guys creates a piece of software...then 10 of his friends renames it and relaunches it with a different name and sales page. I've had a couple people tell me that some of the most recent launches have had 40% or better refund rates...that should tell people something right there.

      The next guy that tells you that has a piece of software that is a push button traffic beast, do these 2 things in order...

      1. call him a liar
      2. Kick him in the nuts
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      • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
        Please...tell us how you REALLY feel!

        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        1. call him a liar
        2. Kick him in the nuts
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      • Profile picture of the author brendan301
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        Article Marketing Robot

        Someone would have to put out something pretty damn impressive in the article submission space to compete with what AMR does. Combine it with The Best Spinner or "spinner chief" as a free alternative, and you have a combination that won't soon be beaten by any of these recent launches.

        It's like one of these guys creates a piece of software...then 10 of his friends renames it and relaunches it with a different name and sales page. I've had a couple people tell me that some of the most recent launches have had 40% or better refund rates...that should tell people something right there.

        The next guy that tells you that has a piece of software that is a push button traffic beast, do these 2 things in order...

        1. call him a liar
        2. Kick him in the nuts
        i'm kicking myself for not buying AMR when it was $37.

        BUT when steve adds the article submitter to SEOLinkRobot, hopefully that'll lessen the kicks to my ass
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        • Profile picture of the author seeley
          Bye Bye Anik
          Bye Bye Shawn Casey
          Bye Bye Fabian Tan

          These blind/same-o cb product launches
          Promoted by the "gurus"

          Won't stop since they must not care about their credibility
          And only care about the money.

          Goes to show where many of these gurus true beliefs are

          Its not about helping

          Its about taking

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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        The next guy that tells you that has a piece of software that is a push button traffic beast, do these 2 things in order...

        1. call him a liar
        2. Kick him in the nuts
        Jeremy,

        I have to respectfully disagree with you on this.

        You should:

        1. Kick him in the nuts.
        2. Call him a liar.
        3. Kick him in the nuts again.
        4. Tell the rest of the world he's a liar.
        5. Kick him in the nuts again.

        I realise that this involves a bit more work, but steps 2 and 4 could probably be outsourced.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post


          I realise that this involves a bit more work, but steps 2 and 4 could probably be outsourced.
          I'm actually in the process of creating a piece of software that will kick people in the nuts on auto-pilot...
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          • Profile picture of the author JamesTWL
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            I'm actually in the process of creating a piece of software that will kick people in the nuts on auto-pilot...
            LOL!!! Jeremy, I will be your first affiliate for that software!! :p
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          • Profile picture of the author jrafique
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            I'm actually in the process of creating a piece of software that will kick people in the nuts on auto-pilot...
            Jeremy count me in also as a jv partner Offer some awesome gifts for top jv partners
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          • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            I'm actually in the process of creating a piece of software that will kick people in the nuts on auto-pilot...
            That'd take all the fun out of it.

            Call me old fashioned, but some things are still better to leave to a hands on (or in this case - boots in) approach.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZZ2008
    I agree with Bashty.

    Sorry Anik. Up until this point I felt like i was getting value from being on your list and you had not promoted any hypie, get rich quick, push button products. I am unsubscribing but something tells me one person one matter to you and chances are you wont even be reading this.

    Cheers,

    ZZ
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    • Profile picture of the author AUKev
      Well ZZ, you can make that 2. I have enjoyed some of Anik's videos because he often offers good info for free. I can take the sales pitches, but I am done with him for jumping on the blind sales pitch bandwagon. Another guru list that I will unsubscribe.

      Originally Posted by ZZ2008 View Post

      I agree with Bashty.

      Sorry Anik. Up until this point I felt like i was getting value from being on your list and you had not promoted any hypie, get rich quick, push button products. I am unsubscribing but something tells me one person one matter to you and chances are you wont even be reading this.

      Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author Bashty
      Originally Posted by ZZ2008 View Post

      I agree with Bashty.

      Sorry Anik. Up until this point I felt like i was getting value from being on your list and you had not promoted any hypie, get rich quick, push button products. I am unsubscribing but something tells me one person one matter to you and chances are you wont even be reading this.

      Cheers,

      ZZ
      Maybe he has a google alert set up for his name, but well, who knows.
      I actually gave him the last chance when he promoted traffic monopoly, because I felt like he gave a lot of value in the empire formula launch (let's not talk about the contest right now..), but all I seem to get are promotions with the last mails. So well, I'm getting too many mails anyway.
      Less mails means less distraction and therefore more focus, which gives ME more money in the pocket, instead of some big "I give a **** about what you think"-'gurus' who believe they can do whatever they want and get through with it.
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      Originally Posted by ZZ2008 View Post

      I agree with Bashty.

      Sorry Anik. Up until this point I felt like i was getting value from being on your list and you had not promoted any hypie, get rich quick, push button products. I am unsubscribing but something tells me one person one matter to you and chances are you wont even be reading this.

      Cheers,

      ZZ
      wow this is exactly how i feel...
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      • Profile picture of the author bioshift
        I guess there are enough sheeple out there that don't know about this great resource that we have in the Warrior Forum...

        Thanks ya'll for watchdogging these fools that sheeple call gurus. I just call em' foorus. That's all they seem to want to do... foo u. They do a good job doing it too. Maybe there will be enough savvy subscribers that unsub to send these idiots a message... "YOU ARE SLEEZY"

        All they do is give real marketers a bad name... and I'm tired of it man.

        enough venting... oh and screw Anik... 500 inc. So what man... looks like you got there shiesting everyone else... wait a minute maybe so did the other 499! Whatev...

        Thanks Warriors!
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  • Profile picture of the author bekatem
    I absolutely dislike it when a vendor is selling a product and does not give ahint of what the product is all about. In a case like that I prefer not tyo buy, as when I have bought these undescribed products in the past , they have always turned out to be old rehashed products with a new advertising spin. Thanks for the info. I won't be caught purchasing yet another article spinner. As if I don't already have enough work to do !
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  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
    Buy Article Marketing Robot and get SpinnerChief for free instead of CTW. I wasted my time making a whole site for CTW to promote it and going to take it down now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wolster
    Thanks for the input guys.

    I was getting ready to have a look at this after also getting an email about it from Anik.

    Think I will give it a miss now.
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  • Profile picture of the author lefty359
    Thanks everyone. My curiosity has been sated.
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  • Profile picture of the author mish_h
    OH how disappointing. I had the purchase page open, now I will have to close that and go back to what I was doing that actually works, slowly but I am getting there.

    It seems with all these Guru sales letters one has to pick out the one thing they don't mention and that is what they are actually selling. It is amazing they can't just say what it is they are actually selling instead of avoiding it. If their idea is so great they should be shouting it from the rooftops, not avoiding saying what it is!

    Thanks for all the replies and reviews
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Wiechert
      Originally Posted by Pete Stockdale View Post

      It's just a pity that every person wanting to find out about internet marketing doesn't bump into Warrior Forum as a first point of call.

      We were all happy to pay to be here. Maybe we could all be surcharged a dollar, and then those collective dollars could be used to promote Warrior Forum so that newbies find this site first?
      I totally agree with Pete.
      The Warrior Forum / War Room membership has been truly one of my best investments this year.
      And the very first thing I learned here was "when it´s to good to be true, than it isn´t" ...
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      • Profile picture of the author scraggz
        If enough of us unsubscribed from all these guys promoting the current round of crap do you think we could nip them in the bud? These promotions wouldn't get very far without any JV's. Let's face it most of them only make money because of the huge lists they've built up over the years, certainly not because of providing any real value. Taking their lists away might just send them the right message.
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        • Profile picture of the author cpalounger
          wouldn't it be nice if the warrior forum had its own "WA approval board" such that a mixed group of "wa members" could evaluate programs/ products in the im niche based on a scoring system and award the coveted WA approved program?

          Criteria such as

          Uniqueness
          Value to customer
          Transparency etc

          I know initially, there would be a lot of things slip through the cracks but over time, if you don't have the "WA approval" your value declines?

          Just a thought to protect naive buyers from unscrupulous so called gurus
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        • Profile picture of the author imguru
          Originally Posted by scraggz View Post

          If enough of us unsubscribed from all these guys promoting the current round of crap do you think we could nip them in the bud? These promotions wouldn't get very far without any JV's. Let's face it most of them only make money because of the huge lists they've built up over the years, certainly not because of providing any real value. Taking their lists away might just send them the right message.
          Yea, these guys have huge lists and cross promote on each others lists. Many times the top JV's get an email blast as an affiliate content prize as well.

          The problem is that more people probably join than leave their lists so they grow in size even if you and a bunch of others leave..
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  • Profile picture of the author minsight
    I'm so glad I came here to check out the reviews on this thing. I'm getting kind of weary of the "here is the revolutionary new thing (that looks like the same old thing with nicer graphics)" situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    Is the main traffic source of the CBtrafficWarrior.com software/ tool from article directories? Right?
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    • Profile picture of the author dtmission
      Hello,

      I was very tempted by the sales page because I really need more traffi to my websites.

      I was lucky to have the possibility to check the forum, because I already have article submitters and spinners and I don't need another one.

      However I would be interested to know if, apart from the tools, the course actually teaches something new on improving traffic

      Regards

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      • Profile picture of the author DannyUK
        Originally Posted by dtmission View Post

        Hello,

        I was very tempted by the sales page because I really need more traffi to my websites.

        I was lucky to have the possibility to check the forum, because I already have article submitters and spinners and I don't need another one.

        However I would be interested to know if, apart from the tools, the course actually teaches something new on improving traffic

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        Hi Mario,

        When I checked yesterday there was nothing available other than the article submission software. No sign of the promised training or anything else other than links to the many up-sells.

        Today they have added some instruction videos for the article submission software plus a link to sign up for a "bonus" webinar, but there is no sign of any useful training yet. There are various promises in the member's area that "new experiences" are on the way but if the very misleading sales pitch is anything to go by I wouldn't expect great things.

        I still haven't received a welcome email or an acknowledgement of my request for a refund. I wasn't too bothered about lack of communication on launch day but 24 hours later I've allowed myself to briefly be annoyed at the lack of response. I say briefly because to spend any significant time worrying about this product would be a waste.

        My advice, steer well clear of this. It's just another "magic button" rehash with the usual levels of customer support - none worth mentioning. It promises the earth and delivers half finished mediocrity. Par for the course these days, unfortunately.

        I'm not hugely concerned about the $47 I spent, I'm more concerned about the time I used up buying and installing this product.

        I'm glad people here have started calling out the affiliates who promoted this product. They have plenty to answer for.
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        • Profile picture of the author helpandinfo
          I got the obligatory email from about 4 marketers as well :-)

          Obviously this is aimed at newbies again but doesn't the flowery dramatic language p*** you off! "Autopilot Stealth Mode!" - indeed..

          I like to stay on a few lists just in case I miss a new offering that may actually be useful but I've got to say these "blind sales page" whores make it easy to make the decision to unsubscribe...

          (Any Newbies out there reading this - some of the best advice you will ever get is - Watch the presentation by all means but then make sure you come and do a search on this forum before you get sucked in...)

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          • Profile picture of the author novac
            Originally Posted by helpandinfo View Post


            I like to stay on a few lists just in case I miss a new offering that may actually be useful but I've got to say these "blind sales page" whores make it easy to make the decision to unsubscribe...

            (Any Newbies out there reading this - some of the best advice you will ever get is - Watch the presentation by all means but then make sure you come and do a search on this forum before you get sucked in...)
            I like to stay on a few lists as well, but it got out of hand recently, and I think I fell into the email swap systems. Before I got rid of 'em they had all started using the same subject lines like: Your Account is expiring, or Instant Download (no optin), and Account #123456, on and on.

            In the case of the more well-known marketers, if you pay attention it's easy to dissect what's actually going on. Plus, I heard from a horse's mouth very recently that some promotions they do is because they owed that marketer for them promoting their product beforehand.
            Understandable, but we, the consumers, can certainly tell a sincere promotion for a product, as to whether the obligated 'swapper' believes in the product or not. Or, is the marketer caring more for their list or the buck?

            Yes, best Newbie advice. Watch that video, bring another tab up, and come over here to check it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author SniperSoftware
    AMR is a one-time fee.. not monthly - just for the record - Of course like many other things, this is subject to change.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Originally Posted by SniperSoftware View Post

      AMR is a one-time fee.. not monthly - just for the record - Of course like many other things, this is subject to change.
      I thought it was a one time fee!

      See, I'm not going crazy - Great piece of software by the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Apologies Vince. I remember now in fact that you had it monthly but have since changed it back to one time. Mea Culpa my friend!
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  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
    Most of the big names have not sent today any email for cb traffic warrior which is certainly unusual. Looks like they started worrying about their business, otherwise on second day of most of the push button traffic software I saw huge promotion from all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Calvin Tan
    HI

    I was considering to buy this software if it is able to help me get long term traffic and sales. Does any 1 able to get a preview or a tutorial of the software or something?

    I'm still waiting for the support desk to reply me =X
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  • Profile picture of the author zajacik
    Who is Andrew X anyway? Someone should have insisted on a full-body X-Ray scan and a pat up/down before his sales pages were posted.

    Well, on the trusted word of Phillip Mansour I thought I would try for more traffic using CB Warrior. Hey, who doesn't need more traffic !!! It's only $47, right.

    My imagination was soaring with all of my urls being linked and backlinked with the ease of push button programming. No I wasn't drinking but I was on some tough cough medicine.

    Yes, I went for CB Warrior and even after I bought I still wasn't sure what it was and even after watching the very very simple intro videos (I mean solid training videos) i was not convinced it wasn't still some magic push button traffic gismo.

    Next, the big moment .... oh, I also bought the CB Warrior Directory which I didn't even expect it to do much mainly because I wasn't even sure what it was. I think I was again imagining more push button traffic goodies.

    Finally I downloaded the CB Warrior and CB Directory. My first impression was "this is something I would write", quick and dirty, that is. I tried the CB Directory, which is a directory submitter with directories I had never heard of ..... and after two hours of the thing searching for categories to download I finally stopped it. I took a look at CB Warrior but didn't have the heart to let it go for two hours.

    Next, (yes, I was still giving them the benefit over the doubt), I thought I would try out the pre-formatted websites by trying the free one first ... which really did sound like a good deal ... however, the free webpage would have ended up costing me close to another $200 after I paid for a domain name and a years hosting (monthly not available). Fortunately for me they only accepted PayPal and PayPal had me on hold pending my new address verification. Sorry Andrew. CB Warrior used a host called Host Jester which apparently is owned by Andrew X

    Well, all-in-all, my imagination bubble popped and I apparently woke up and emailed Phil my great disappointment of not being able to magically push traffic buttons. Haven't heard back yet.

    My next step after this quick and dirty review is to do the only thing that is supposedly guaranteed and that is to ask for a refund. Clickbank is still in the 60-day refund business? Right? Unfortunately for them and me I have had to use it a little too much lately.

    In parting, I am getting a little tired of the $1 Trial, $47 up-suck-sale, $197 up-suck-suck-sale and then finally the $37 forever membership to get anything decent. Thanks to Clickbank we are not victims of our own fantasies. However, I expect that to change too with an annual limit on refunds … even if the programs do over promise and deceive.

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    • Profile picture of the author scraggz
      Originally Posted by zajacik View Post

      Thanks to Clickbank we are not victims of our own fantasies. However, I expect that to change too with an annual limit on refunds ... even if the programs do over promise and deceive.
      I would imagine Clickbank would lose a lot of business if they limited refunds. There is no way I would consider buying any of the current crop of crap if I wasn't confident in clickbank's refund policy. like you I've refunded more than I've kept of late. In fact I've now been put off even looking at most things that come out.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ivelin2008
    I feel bad, I almost promoted this to my tiny list..
    Actually I did send 1 prelaunch email but the link in it didn't work!
    I guess that was a sign..
    I shouldn't promote things without investigating whether it's a good product first..

    I won't do the same mistake again.
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    • Profile picture of the author jrafique
      Originally Posted by Ivelin2008 View Post

      I feel bad, I almost promoted this to my tiny list..
      Actually I did send 1 prelaunch email but the link in it didn't work!
      I guess that was a sign..
      I shouldn't promote things without investigating whether it's a good product first..

      I won't do the same mistake again.
      Keep it simple. If have the list ask the product owner to give you early access. Make sure email looks professional. If someone don't reply you or not give you the access then its 100% sure that product is not a quality product.

      I do same and see what is my experience. I was able to get the access to all of the products in last 6 months but not following:

      Auto Traffic Avalanche
      Auto Commission Bot
      Auto Traffic Monopoly
      CB Traffic Warrior

      And you better know about all what they are all about.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ivelin2008
        haha man really?

        yeah I know what these products are all about..

        That's a nice strategy. Thanks.

        I guess anything with the word "Auto" in it should be investigated..

        There's been so many of these "Auto Mega Giga Turbo Traffic Blasters" lately..
        that it's just ridiculous..

        You have to be careful what you promote in order to keep the relationship with your subscribers..
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  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
    Yeh we need to take care of this but they really don't as they have huge lists that we don't have. My blog post related to clickbank traffic warrior is on the top of google and I have explained everything what the product is all about.

    Between this I got access to auto cash funnel yesterday which is going to launch tomorrow. ACF is certainly a good product for traffic generation and list building. I am sure lots of the people don't know what they are teaching to generate traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joel33020
    Every time I see an ad for a great new product for something I need to have this year, I Google it and I haven't been able to find anything legit. wtf is up with these scummy people that prey on people laid off or whatever and are broke??
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