Total Traffic Annihilation

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TotalTrafficAnnihilation recently launched.

Any reviews about this product?

What was the source of the 711,426 free visitors in one month?
#annihilation #total #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author novac
    Originally Posted by himanuzo View Post

    TotalTrafficAnnihilation recently launched.

    Any reviews about this product?

    What was the source of the 711,426 free visitors in one month?
    and anyone know Steven Johnson? $29 when you leave the page.
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  • Profile picture of the author aldira
    pls give us review of this product ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Bought it at 2PM this afternoon and still don't have access to the product.

      Support ticket into Steven Jones and clickbank.
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      • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        Bought it at 2PM this afternoon and still don't have access to the product.

        Support ticket into Steven Jones and clickbank.

        I seriously believe we need to take all these shams, incomplete, unfounded, over-hyped products down. I've been watching you yourself Jeremy provide some deep insights into these products that have been coming out & have been spot on with the lack of quality products out there.

        I mean, I've researched & analyzed over 12 product launches this year alone. All 12 were a rehashed, re-branded product. All of them were ARTICLE SUBMITTERS!!! And each out of the 12, had the same type of sales letter designed websites (with the small video on the side & right next to it an add to cart button, with large infographics of clickbank accounts). And supposively all 12 of these different product owners were generating at least a minimum of $34K per month.

        We all need together and seriously start exposing this stuff hard core.
        Demand a 3rd party verification of income claims.
        Demand evidence of the actual operations of the product
        Demand evidence of every item on their sales page.
        Demand information on if that person is actually implementing that product themselves.
        People are being ripped off all throughout 2010.

        The "NEW" strategy is.....I'll give you my bonus after you purchase in 30 days". Expect new & other duplicitious methods come 2011.
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        • Profile picture of the author great2bme
          Originally Posted by templarjustice View Post

          ...we need to take all these shams, incomplete, unfounded, over-hyped products down...
          Kinda thought that was the point of Warrior Forum feedback... Announce the B.S. products here so that scrurus' P.O.S. product launches become less effective and certainly don't sucker any of us.

          Thanks to both of you for your repeated reviews.

          Brian
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          • Profile picture of the author vivax
            I hope Jeremy will come back with his review soon

            Who knows, maybe a miracle will happen and there will finally be a quality product behind those hyped sales letters..
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          • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
            Originally Posted by great2bme View Post

            Kinda thought that was the point of Warrior Forum feedback... Announce the B.S. products here so that scrurus' P.O.S. product launches become less effective and certainly don't sucker any of us.

            Thanks to both of you for your repeated reviews.

            Brian
            The point I'm trying to make is that we need to come harder.
            WE need to analyze & really look deep into the details of what is being offered.

            I mean, seriously.....if someone is stating that they are generating $550K and 711k visitors to "a site", that product owner at the VERY LEAST have a completed product. I mean, why are we letting that fact go?

            I mean, when a person orders the product, there should be no question that the product should be received immediately. This isn't Lay-A-WAy.

            It really pissed me off when Jeremy said, ordered & don't have access to the product, when I'm reading the owner claims $550K that they made.

            Either we can agree the only way to make money is to screw people over, delay giving people their product & false claims, OR, we must come correct & expose FASTER, HARDER, and to the next level, which we aren't doing enough....Letting EVERYONE KNOW, and Shutting them down 100%.

            I mean, no access to the product & $550k!!! C'mon!!! Unacceptable.
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      • Hi Jeremy

        Surprised that you jumped in but would love to hear some feedback when you have it.

        Regards

        Bronwyn and Keith
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        Bought it at 2PM this afternoon and still don't have access to the product.

        Support ticket into Steven Jones and clickbank.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Still don't have access to the product...

          I only bought because someone on Skype and I are betting on what it is lol...
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          • Hi Jeremy

            Ah the chance to win some $$$$ or some pride.

            BTW - surprised that we got an email from a reasonably respected Warrior on this - as we thought he was one of the good guys.:confused:

            Regards

            Bronwyn and Keith

            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            Still don't have access to the product...

            I only bought because someone on Skype and I are betting on what it is lol...
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          • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            Still don't have access to the product...

            I only bought because someone on Skype and I are betting on what it is lol...

            I bet it's an Article Submitter....That would be Submitter # 13 for the year 2010.

            Wanted to just add this, I was looking at when Jeremy posted at 2pm he didn't have access to the product & still didn't at 1AM the next morning.

            It's now 2pm, and since Jeremy's first post I have already done the following since then:

            1. Created 3 Custom Adsense sites - about 3 hours total
            2. Create 20 articles -- about 3 hours
            3. Done extensive keyword research for 2 of the sites -- that took 2 hours each.
            4. Took a break to watch a Netflix movie
            5. Done research & trying to figure out why would there be a difference between the EPC of a Broad Keyword vs. a Exact Match keyword & how long or when it would take for the higher earning Exact match to actually be generated -- upon first click or does each piece of content count (oh hum....anyone have the answer to that would be great) -- 3 hours & still searching
            6. Starting to plan for the morning for when I wake up, which should be 5 hours from now....it's 2AM.

            13 hours of getting stuff done....and Jeremy is still waiting for a product purchase 2pm yesterday. It's time to dig into Total Traffic Annihilation & Annihilate it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
              I don't think its fair to judge a product as a scam simply because of initial download issues.

              It happens to the best of us. I know I tested my own offer 3 weeks before launch with no issues on 200+ orders but come launch day still had download problems anyway (not load related, but because Clickbank API went down for a day)..
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                • Profile picture of the author Boghead
                  Perhaps I'm wrong but I got the impression from the sales blurb that this software was related to traffic generation. It isn't.

                  It consists of a Wordpress plugin. Why is that not mentioned in the sales letter? This plugin grabs articles with a couple of methods and post them to your own blog. You can of course remove the original author's pesky little links to their blog and replace them with your own links.

                  Mmm. Not quite ethical methinks and certainly breaking the article's source website rules. But then it was only shown as an example of what you could do. No one would really do that!

                  Ok, it is a auto posting plugin. Rather, another auto posting plugin. There must be dozens of variations on getting auto blog posts now. Lots are free.

                  So where does all the traffic come from? Filling your Lose Weight and Whiten Your Teeth Blog with a few hundred blog posts is no guarantee you are going to get any traffic. I think we all know that.

                  There now comes the bonus. The traffic guide.

                  Imagine my surprise to learn that writing articles can drive oodles of traffic to your site. (I guess your work can then be copied and the resource box removed by other users of the plugin!)

                  Then there is a thing called Web 2.0. Bookmarking. Submit your blog to 1000's of directories. I don't think I'll bother doing that one thanks.

                  Etc etc etc.

                  OK there are a pile of videos to explain all this which I haven't bothered to watch. It was hard enough to view the video explaining the plugin but perhaps it is my internet connection. All the videos have PDF's of the dialogue.

                  All in all there is quite a lot of stuff in it. Possibly of use to someone who only had an idea of doing some profit blogging half an hour ago and doesn't know anything.

                  I get the impression that this is a direct rewrite of George Brown's Traffic Ultimatum. (I found that a bit irritating to be honest and grossly overpriced).

                  If you haven't a clue and want to splash out some cash to make you feel you did something today then go ahead and buy.Alternatively you could follow TemplarJustice's advice and go and do something constructive with your time.

                  Now I've got to go and request a refund and then remove myself from the list of the #$*@* who has been pushing this on his relentless emails.

                  Steve Johnston (No relation - I've got a t in my surname but I had to buy something with almost my name on it!)
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          • Profile picture of the author Jamie Lewis
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            Still don't have access to the product...

            I only bought because someone on Skype and I are betting on what it is lol...
            Check your spam folder. My "welcome" email was in my spam folder, once I checked I saw it, its a "Welcome to TTA, log in here"

            Jamie
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            • Profile picture of the author novac
              Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis View Post

              Check your spam folder. My "welcome" email was in my spam folder, once I checked I saw it, its a "Welcome to TTA, log in here"

              Jamie
              Darn - I tried that for a phrase in Gmail and it didn't work. I really thought that with time, and then watching a demo, the login issue would be resolved.
              I'd like to know if anyone here has been able to login - it's hard to tell. Going to wait one more day, and if nothing happens, ask for refund.
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      • Profile picture of the author yossic
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        Bought it at 2PM this afternoon and still don't have access to the product.

        Support ticket into Steven Jones and clickbank.
        Same problem here. Bought it yesterday and I cannot log into their membership site. Emailed support as well as ClickBank. Still waiting for a reply.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jackaroo
      Originally Posted by aldira View Post

      pls give us review of this product ?
      Would be great to receive some reviews ... sounds pretty good ... videos are good from what I can see & here. Educational although some aspects are left a little in the air but I haven't found anything that tells you everything. Pretty comprehensive starting from the beginning ... even helpful for a newby. Will be interesting to see what support is like.
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  • Profile picture of the author ecdavis
    Steve,

    Thank you for your comments. Yes, it is annoying to get emails pushing questionable clickbank products from marketers who profess to respect their lists. I will also be hitting the unsubscribe button this morning.
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      What can you expect from a $29 product except more rehashed c_ _ p !

      Sorry to be so harsh..but I'm so over these types of product releases.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Fladlien
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        What can you expect from a $29 product except more rehashed c_ _ p !

        Sorry to be so harsh..but I'm so over these types of product releases.
        I don't think it's fair to judge on price alone. I sell a lot of stuff around this price point, and it's not rehashed crap. In fact, it's high quality stuff - which is why I have such a great following online.

        The problem is when you pay $29 for something that promises the world but doesn't even reveal the nature of what you get.

        Case in point: total traffic annihilation claims to have brought in 711,426 visitors on auto-pilot. If that were true, why the heck would you even bother with a launch? I mean launches are hard - I've done my fair share of them. If I were getting 711,426 visitors on autopilot the last thing I'd want to do is LAUNCH a software and training on how to do it.

        I'd instead just be using the software more, and/or hiring employees to do it all for me.

        Moving on: only 57 copies available? We all know that's a lie. So that immediately should make you suspicious as well.

        You don't need experience or a budget? I don't know ANYTHING online that requires no experience to be successful. Period. If you think otherwise, you're fooling yourself.

        Making money is simple: you put in the time to develop skills that other people find valuable enough to compensate you for in some way.

        That's why you should invest in products that teach you LONG TERM high value skills, that once you cultivate - will make you lots of money because they provide lots of value.

        Supposed "auto-pilot" traffic software does not focus on ANY value creation at all.

        I'll let you in on a secret: a launch SIMILAR to this one did VERY well earlier this year. The person bragged about how good it did. So what happened? That launch has been knocked off several times over and over again because of how good it did.

        Now every knockoff has this:

        1) fake scarcity
        2) blind copy (you don't know what you're buying)
        3) 3 step process (step 1 install software, step 2 press button step 3 make money)
        4) one powerful proof element of traffic then "spun" to fit whatever the offer is
        5) copious mentions of "automation" and "auto-pilot"
        6) the p.s. with "if it sells out you'll see this..."

        Like Jeremy I bought it just to see how ludicrous it was. I have a group of personal coaching clients and we were launching this launch and "dissecting" each element of it for an education on how these things work.

        So I thought it fitting I also buy the product so I could see what the "pay off" was all about.

        I know places where I can buy the WHITE LABEL RIGHTS of a plugin for $40 that is better than this, and that I could be an authorized reseller for.

        Bottom line: 2 thumbs down from me.
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        • Profile picture of the author Boghead
          I don't think it's fair to judge on price alone.

          Absolutely Jason, I've several reports of yours that are well worth the extortionate price of a few dollars.

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        • Profile picture of the author reapr
          Originally Posted by Jason Fladlien View Post


          Moving on: only 57 copies available? We all know that's a lie. So that immediately should make you suspicious as well...

          Bottom line: 2 thumbs down from me.
          Yes I just got an email from another respected marketer for this product an I have to give two thumbs down too! I think if I keep getting these types of emails pimping questionable products I will be unsubscribing from the list no matter how good the list info is.

          As a side note still only 57 copies left. Must be due to all the returns because it seems like people are buying just not keeping!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
    Look everyone, there is a major issue that seriously is not being addressed.
    It's called False Advertising. Plain & simple, it's illegal. Especially to U.S. consumers.
    There's also an element of bait & switch, especially when you are not fully told what's involved.

    I'm telling everyone this, if something is not seriously done, there most likely will not only be a crackdown by 3rd party forces (not consumers directly), but places like Clickbank themselves, the government, credit card processors.
    Some people may say good, however, things like this can disrupt our own business operations. However, our own businesses may not be harmed if "WE" who are in the "KNOW" jump on this stuff much harder & expose it to a greater degree -- we can at least stop this mess for a little while.

    I would have lost the bet on this one, however, I was still in the ball park. It got me thinking though, on what the rehashed products have been this year alone are:

    1. Article Spinners
    2. Auto Blogging Software -- Either auto blog by RSS or auto blog by scrape & post
    2. Article Submitters -- Submit to 1,000 of directories automatically.....expcept that you have to manually enter 1,000 captchas because their softwares are broken.

    The Trend.....continues...........
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    • Profile picture of the author Zero
      So basically....it is SEO..article marketing stuff, inspite of the claim on the sales copy it has nothing to do with that.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    I found a review site about the TTA. The review site said that the TTA is auto blogging software. But the buyers still need to generate traffic to the auto blogging sites by using free or paid traffic methods.

    templarjustice is right. The trend... continues...

    And still waiting Jeremy Kelsall's review.
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    • Profile picture of the author rmoore
      These auto-traffic products are killing me.

      ...what sucks is that they sometimes overshadow the truly ground breaking and valuable stuff put out by good marketers.

      The best products I bought this year, weren't promoted by the guys with big email lists and are rarely mention on this site.

      Want a decent autoblog?

      - Build Google Trust with 5-10 original articles
      - Get free content from UAW & SEO Link Vine
      - Get Free Content with WPEasyContent (by Oz)
      - Install WPSyndicator to get each post crawled by Google.
      - Setup a Twitter Profile and auto-post your posts to Twitter with Twitterfeed
      - Link build (with your weapon of choice) to the WPSyndicator sites & to your blog.

      I use other tools as well (WPTwin to save time, 1WayLinks & TheBestSpinner for link building, etc.)

      I honestly should create an auto-traffic course and give it away free. I get 10,000+ uniques per day from free traffic...so I do know what works.

      Anyway....skip these types of products and buy the proven tools for content and proven tools for backlinks.You are going to have to write at least SOME of your own articles for any of this to work long-term.

      Back to work

      -Rusty
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      • Profile picture of the author TammieJJ
        Originally Posted by rmoore View Post

        These auto-traffic products are killing me.

        ...what sucks is that they sometimes overshadow the truly ground breaking and valuable stuff put out by good marketers.

        The best products I bought this year, weren't promoted by the guys with big email lists and are rarely mention on this site.

        Want a decent autoblog?

        - Build Google Trust with 5-10 original articles
        - Get free content from UAW & SEO Link Vine
        - Get Free Content with WPEasyContent (by Oz)
        - Install WPSyndicator to get each post crawled by Google.
        - Setup a Twitter Profile and auto-post your posts to Twitter with Twitterfeed
        - Link build (with your weapon of choice) to the WPSyndicator sites & to your blog.

        I use other tools as well (WPTwin to save time, 1WayLinks & TheBestSpinner for link building, etc.)

        I honestly should create an auto-traffic course and give it away free. I get 10,000+ uniques per day from free traffic...so I do know what works.

        Anyway....skip these types of products and buy the proven tools for content and proven tools for backlinks.You are going to have to write at least SOME of your own articles for any of this to work long-term.

        Back to work

        -Rusty
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        Please share the best traffic building products you've bought this year -

        Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author XXXXXXXX
          To Rmoore

          I am learning wordpress right now. Heck if you put together a course on what you listed above....I'll buy it. I know about some of the things you posted.....others things you listed I don't.

          Put me on your list.

          Thanks X
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  • Profile picture of the author rmoore
    Tamie,

    I don't want to be too long-winded because this is a thread for review of Total Traffic Annihilation...that being said, I think people who are reading this thread are looking for programs that work and are worth the investment.

    So for autoblogging I really like the methods behind a product called "Marketing on the Fringe", by Bill McRae. This will show you how to setup your blog to automatically ensure that each auto-post is found and indexed in Google. This course came out a while ago, but beats most of the similar courses that have been released since that time.

    Bill recommends Wordpress Direct for your auto content...and that works, but I would recommend to start with free content from Syndicate Kahuna, Unique Article Wizard, and SEO Linkvine. Google those sites and look on how you can get free content for your blog...you don't have to pay to receive content from these sources.

    ...remember, you need a way to make sure that these autoposts get indexed in Google. Bill's course does a great job explaining that. In addition to doing what he recommends, I would also buy a premium plugin called WPSyndicator.

    ...another plugin that will give you free content is called WPEasyContent. You just have to pay a one-time free for this plugin and it works really well.

    So now you have auto-posting content and some automatic backlinking. This alone could probably get you to 100 unique visits per day per blog. To get to the next level of traffic, you would want to do some extra link building.

    1) Get some sort of Article Spinner (I like The Best Spinner)
    2) You will want some way to disperse these spun articles to get links (so SEO Link Vine, UAW, 1WayLinks, SENuke, SEO Link Dominator, etc.)
    3) Send links to your blog as well as the 15 Web 2.0 properties you created with WPSyndicator.

    Linking to the 15 WPSyndicator sites is a great way to make sure Google finds each and every blog post.

    ...shoot this is getting too long.

    Anyway...this is a simple blueprint for autoblogs to get 200-1,000 views per day. Tip: just post 1-2 times per day..per service to each blog...so you will get 5-8 blog posts per day.

    Hope that helps a little. Again...I need to create a course on this. If you combine some of these tools properly it creates a synergistic effect....and some outstanding traffic.

    -Rusty
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      my new practice is to unsubscribe from anyone's list who promotes this crap, and send them an email explaining why.

      2 weeks ago, i got an email from someone i respect about some new whizbang must-have product that'll do everything for you automatically including cashing your affiliate checks. so i asked him, what's your experience been with this software? does it deliver good results? his response: i don't know i haven't used it. My response: why are you promoting something you haven't used? his response: **crickets**

      also in regards to SEO Link Vine - 95% of the articles i'm getting from there are total garbage. i reject a high percentage of their content. i know it's not brad's fault, but I'm about to unregister my blog and post human spun plr content.
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      • Profile picture of the author rmoore
        Brendan,

        A good strategy is to have a 5-10 page Wordpress mini-site where those 5-10 articles are quality that you write as "pages".

        Set your WP site to have the home page be a "page" not post. Then you have a blog running in the background, but above each post on that blog...you point them to your quality content (your 5-10 unique articles on your home page).

        Again...I need to do a whole course on this. So even if the free auto content is so-so...you are pointing people to your good content.

        -Rusty
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      • Profile picture of the author billallridge
        Originally Posted by brendan301 View Post


        also in regards to SEO Link Vine - 95% of the articles i'm getting from there are total garbage. i reject a high percentage of their content. i know it's not brad's fault, but I'm about to unregister my blog and post human spun plr content.
        I have had the same experience with My Article Network.

        Got 4 posts that were exact copies except that the titles were different.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaihyppo
    Hmmm why Steven Johnson's voice sounds like Jani G who sells Gheadshot (crappy product by the way) inside the video?????

    Does this Steven Johnson guy even exists???

    Has anyone seen Steven Johnson guy inside WF before?

    If you listen carefully especially the words "dollars", "method" and "software", it sounds from the same guy. I do have a feeling this is Jani G who simply sells another junk using some other name. Then again, I could be wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Originally Posted by jaihyppo View Post


      Does this Steven Johnson guy even exists???
      Yes he's a cool dude I have met him in person a couple times at various events.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        Just requested a refund.

        3 emails to the vendor, and a ticket to clickbank unanswered...I still havn't been able to get into the members area....when I log in, it says that I don't have any active subscriptions.
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        • Profile picture of the author novac
          Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

          Just requested a refund.

          3 emails to the vendor, and a ticket to clickbank unanswered...I still havn't been able to get into the members area....when I log in, it says that I don't have any active subscriptions.
          Same here except two to Clickbank! The password recovery works, comes straight into my email, but the login still doesn't work.

          I keep emailing that i can't login - with no reply until moments ago after my last one I received:
          "Hello,



          Thank you for reviewing the Total Traffic Annihilation program. I am so sorry to hear that you are not having success you wanted with the program so far. We have had an overwhelming amount of feedback that the program is an excellent tool and it may be that there is still a way we can assist you with the program and the success you desire. However if you still wish to request a refund please reopen this ticket.



          Thank you,

          Dustin

          Total Traffic Annihilation"

          After Dave Guindon's video I had decided that the plugin would be a great addition for me, and I really thought all this login stuff would have cleared up by now.
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          Hard to believe I forgot about being a member for so long.

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  • Profile picture of the author lefty359
    Dave Guinden did a video. It is an autoblug plugin that grabs RSS feeds and articles from
    articlesbase. Then they have traffic videos about article marketing etc.
    Now why couldn't the creators simply have said that on the salespage?
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    • Hi lefty

      Yeah - truth in advertising would be nice. :rolleyes:

      What they don't realise is that we actually "need to know" to make an informed buying decision.

      Anyway, onwards and upwards.

      regards

      Bronwyn and Keith
      Originally Posted by lefty359 View Post

      Dave Guinden did a video. It is an autoblug plugin that grabs RSS feeds and articles from
      articlesbase. Then they have traffic videos about article marketing etc.
      Now why couldn't the creators simply have said that on the salespage?
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      • Profile picture of the author elis
        be aware from this steven johnson , he and his friend steven james where selling a product name "online income flood" for 1 $ trial and after that still charging my credit card each month for 99$ , none of my emails to them get any response,they compleatly disapear, i needed to make a new credit card .
        you can read about them at ripoff report site whice give reports about scams.

        now decide about buying its product ....
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Isn't scraping other peoples content and changing the links, a violation of every article directories ToS, not to mention illegal?


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    • Profile picture of the author jrafique
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Isn't scraping other peoples content and changing the links, a violation of every article directories ToS, not to mention illegal?


      Chris
      Articlesbase allows this. Open any article in articlesbase and you will find following line written at the end of article:

      "Click here to publish this article on your website or blog, it's free and easy!"

      That is Under Creative Commons License: Attribution.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
        Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

        Articlesbase allows this. Open any article in articlesbase and you will find following line written at the end of article:

        "Click here to publish this article on your website or blog, it's free and easy!"

        That is Under Creative Commons License: Attribution.
        Provided the links are not changed.

        If I scraped an article of yours which you created or paid to have created, and then change the links, that is a violation of copyright, hence illegal.

        This is my point, it has nothing to do with article syndication.

        You can have your website/biz shut down if somebody files a DMCA notice against you for pulling this kind of shenanigans.


        Chris
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        • Profile picture of the author jrafique
          Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

          Provided the links are not changed.

          If I scraped an article of yours which you created or paid to have created, and then change the links, that is a violation of copyright, hence illegal.

          This is my point, it has nothing to do with article syndication.

          You can have your website/biz shut down if somebody files a DMCA notice against you for pulling this kind of shenanigans.


          Chris
          Yeh very much correct. These kind of plugin extract the article with links. My several articles get republished and I saw my links intact also.
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          • Profile picture of the author passiveincomebiz
            What is even more troubling is that a lot of honest marketers are promoting blind offers like this one to their lists
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            • Profile picture of the author jrafique
              Originally Posted by Fish-Oil-pills.com View Post

              What is even more troubling is that a lot of honest marketers are promoting blind offers like this one to their lists
              I know about whom you are talking about as he sent the email today. People are unsubscribing from their lists but they get more on the list then who unsubscribe.

              I own a blog of reviewing the products, even I remain conscious about the credibility because if I do not tell the truth to anyone, he/she will not open it again. I am #1 on google for this product keyword and I have clearly explained what are the contents of the product.

              Providing actual rather affiliate review help me to boost my visitors as I see visits through bookmarks are increasing to my blog.
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        • Hi Chris

          You are right - but thats also how it should be.

          BTW - you look like you might be a fan of Supertroopers (shenanigans.....LOL).

          Regards

          Bronwyn and Keith
          PS. Supertroopers - Its our 21 year olds fave movie.
          Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

          Provided the links are not changed.

          If I scraped an article of yours which you created or paid to have created, and then change the links, that is a violation of copyright, hence illegal.

          This is my point, it has nothing to do with article syndication.

          You can have your website/biz shut down if somebody files a DMCA notice against you for pulling this kind of shenanigans.


          Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Lifechanging
    Chris its certainly unethical, beyond belief. Remember who writes those articles in the first place people, its us; the good people of the Warrior Forum! It's not some corporation these products are ripping off, its us!

    We spend hours researching and writing high quality articles to get those back links, or paying writers to come up with the content, then guys like "Steven Johnson" come up with these crappy plug-ins to rip off our content and even advocate removing our links??

    For me I've turned a corner with my Internet Marketing career, I'll only deal with trusted marketers who produce high quality products that deliver, those guys that do not hype the hell out of their sales page or offer huge bonuses to their affiliates.

    I'm taking action against anyone who promotes this type of product by immediately unsubscribing from their lists; if they are really a "guru" they'll be monitoring their Aweber accounts and will realize the impact on their list if every time they send an email promoting a junk product they get a flood of unsubscribers.

    I recommend you all do the same and going forward, whenever you get an email promoting a product like this one, hit the unsubscribe button and tell the WF you did it!

    BTW - Anik Singal - I just left your list...
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  • Profile picture of the author alfrescoid
    This was promoted to me by Ritoban C.

    Has he become another "sellout" guy as well? Seems like these guys put out one or two decent products, then as soon as they get some attention by a "guru" and start JV'ing with them, they start sending out crap offers.

    Anyone interested in a "name and shame" site, eg whoslistshouldibeon.com? or whoshouldiunsubscribefrom.com?
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  • Profile picture of the author Netcat
    I find that the best way to unsubscribe from a $1 trial product with a charge after 7 days (or any product) is to go directly to Clickbank and unsubscribe there. They will let you know immediately that they will not charge you any further payments.

    Then do the same at PayPal. This stops the process dead in it's tracks.
    Trying to contact the owner of the product is often not very successful.
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    • Hi netcat

      Yeah its probably the one great thing about CB for buyers.

      Easy way to stop the payments. So much easier than PP. :confused:

      Which usually doesn't happen.

      Regards

      Bronwyn and Keith
      Originally Posted by Netcat View Post

      I find that the best way to unsubscribe from a $1 trial product with a charge after 7 days (or any product) is to go directly to Clickbank and unsubscribe there. They will let you know immediately that they will not charge you any further payments.

      Then do the same at PayPal. This stops the process dead in it's tracks.
      Trying to contact the owner of the product is often not very successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author S Bhaskar
    Whenever there is a traffic product launch or I see a WSO, I am really tempted to buy it at all cost. But my past experience has been that they didn't give me much value against the dollar that they are bought. Most of the information inside these so called Mammoth Traffic Builders are available for free on the internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author taboy74
    Nah! I am done buying stuffs from supposed gurus. They're all crap and does not produce the results as promised in the sales page. Glad I found something in the web for FREE!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author EZ2DV8
        It doesn't seem that more incriminating testimony is needed - but...

        I bought TTA (and 5 or 6 other so called products) as part of a project being setup by outsourced help. Had all the 'bad deal' smell about it but at $29.00 - what the heck.

        A) no access to the member's area was received - same as reported here by Jeremy.

        B) FOUR support emails and one CB complaint are unanswered after 3 days - same as reported here by Jeremy.

        Tomorrow I grab my refund and go to the gym and whack myself a few times in the head with a 20lb dumbbell repeating aloud it (the dumbbell) is so named for a reason.

        Somewhat related note - Lately I've been doing some REAL research using actual books bought on Amazon vs. over priced ebooks ghost written by pompous goofs. It is refreshing. No joke.
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    • Profile picture of the author Qamar
      What I am doing now is to unsubscribe from the list of any marketers who promote to me this stupid products right off.

      I have a seen a couple of marketers whom i was beginning to like then suddenly sent me an email promoting this stupid products and I have no choice but to blacklist him.

      This is also a lesson for me. i will make sure toalways promote products that are proven to be useful to my list. Otherwise I would just shut up and do something better rather than tarnishing my image.



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  • Profile picture of the author nmh
    I got the sales email today on that from a Mark Barnard. If you try to email back, it bounces. The sales letter was a little shifty to say the least! See below (I will disable the links). It is asking for "BETA TESTERS" yet when you go the page is asks for credit card info for a trial is a complete sales page! To me that says LIAR and tells me all of this is a lie. I don't know whose product is really is but just because of this tactic, I will never buy it. SCAM TO ME! If I am wrong, please forgive me. Anyone get this and do I need to backtrack (which I am hoping I have to do if I am misreading this letter).

    Letter below

    Subject: I need a few BETA testers (new software!)

    If you've never made a penny online before,
    and you want to be able to create a profit
    pulling machine in just 7 clicks of your mouse

    check it out here

    what's cool is that:

    - You don't need an existing website
    - You don't need any technical experience
    - You don't need to be a sales person
    - You don't need any money to get started

    In fact, beginners will get preference

    click here to apply for the become a beta tester

    Application Requirements:

    - Provide feedback in terms of the
    features and functionality of the
    product

    - Let us know how much money you have made

    click here to apply

    ACT NOW only 300 beta-testers are required
    and the closing date is fast approaching

    Best of luck,
    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author JustVisiting
      Originally Posted by nmh View Post

      I got the sales email today on that from a Mark Barnard. If you try to email back, it bounces. The sales letter was a little shifty to say the least! See below (I will disable the links). It is asking for "BETA TESTERS" yet when you go the page is asks for credit card info for a trial is a complete sales page! To me that says LIAR and tells me all of this is a lie. I don't know whose product is really is but just because of this tactic, I will never buy it. SCAM TO ME! If I am wrong, please forgive me. Anyone get this and do I need to backtrack (which I am hoping I have to do if I am misreading this letter).

      Letter below

      Subject: I need a few BETA testers (new software!)

      If you've never made a penny online before,
      and you want to be able to create a profit
      pulling machine in just 7 clicks of your mouse

      check it out here

      what's cool is that:

      - You don't need an existing website
      - You don't need any technical experience
      - You don't need to be a sales person
      - You don't need any money to get started

      In fact, beginners will get preference

      click here to apply for the become a beta tester

      Application Requirements:

      - Provide feedback in terms of the
      features and functionality of the
      product

      - Let us know how much money you have made

      click here to apply

      ACT NOW only 300 beta-testers are required
      and the closing date is fast approaching

      Best of luck,
      Mark
      I received this exact email today.

      Sadly the sender is a highly successful and respected internet marketer.

      The email subject line and content are a complete lie. It is a salesletter for Total Traffic Annihilation.

      I thought he was a warrior and if he is he should at least check this forum for product feedback even if he can't be bothered to buy and review himself the products he recommends.

      That's one less 'newsletter' subscription.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jackaroo
        Originally Posted by JustVisiting View Post

        I received this exact email today.

        Sadly the sender is a highly successful and respected internet marketer.

        The email subject line and content are a complete lie. It is a salesletter for Total Traffic Annihilation.

        I thought he was a warrior and if he is he should at least check this forum for product feedback even if he can't be bothered to buy and review himself the products he recommends.

        That's one less 'newsletter' subscription.
        I've had that email too and after a glance I reached for the delete button ... If this is what is on offer, Mark is losing the plot. Need to check out what is recommended ... this is something I am learning after being bitten by Traffic Revolution.
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  • Profile picture of the author robrave
    Wew.. I'm glad I've found this thread.

    I've received the email from Adam Short. A guy who I trust because his product was promoted by Mark Ling.

    It seems that most marketers nowadays really sell few decent products from the start then after a while send you lots of promotion from other marketers in which they haven't even tried.

    I got so curious with its salesletter saying I don't need those Adwords, twitter, etc to generate such insane traffic but didn't say what.

    Really, is there any decent products that really works ? I learned a lot being a freelancer on oDesk this days instead of reading ebooks, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author novac
    Purchased Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:26 PM and the email Total Traffic Annihilation - Membership Information arrived Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:54 PM after Clickbank tickets and emails as I said.

    The product is a plugin that pulls content either through an article directory or by RSS. Better than some.
    There are 6 bonus tabs across the top of the member area, plus a surprise bonus.
    They 6 house a total of 25 videos from a different marketer, Steven James. I guess they've paired up before? (May 19th - Steven James + Steven Johnson - The Commission League - JV Invite shown at New Product Launches « Joint Ventures - JV Launch Announcements )

    Anyway, the videos aren't bad, but they are very basic. Like 'CPA Offers Explained', 'JV Signup Page', 'Aweber Registration', and 'Members Area'. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't there whole courses on creating member sites? This is one video.

    It is also one short video on 'Copywriting 101' where he chooses a product in Clickbank, and goes on to show how to write a pitch. The methods: Either hire a writer on Elance or just write, "This is my pitch, blah, blah, blah". Then you just copy and paste that all the way down your page.

    I was pretty sure that it was a mixture of chopped up courses or even parts of one just by things that were said, and the flow, but I knew it when a video was referred to as Video 17 and it wasn't.

    If you think you may already have purchased *this* section of TTA - that was a clue above. Also, throughout many of the videos you see "Steven James Listbuilder 2.0 Extravaganza!! Just $47!
    Learn how a computer newbie went from flat broke to over $2000/mo online in 3 days." in the header.

    The surprise bonus is pretty good but I bet that the majority of the members in here already have it. Perfect for someone just getting started OR if you need a different IP for linking purposes
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  • Profile picture of the author 4kgyasi
    Thanks fro asking this question. I've learnt a lot from this thread and fellow warriors about all these hyped up launches.
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  • Profile picture of the author omotnow
    thanking you all for your honesty and real reviews. whenever i see a product being touted "out there," wf is my go-to place to get the low-down. appreciate those who buy the stuff and take the time to keep the rest of us informed - and ultimately avoid purchasing another pitfall. cheers.
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