SENUKE vs MAGIC SUBMITTER...thoughts?

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I am a user of both SENUKE and MAGIC SUBMITTER.

here are my thoughts on both of them...

Senuke does a few things that are different from magic submitter. I tested it on a site for one month, using senuke the smart way for one month. Not as much content was indexed as much as i'd like, however it did work to raise my ranks. I like that you can have many threads going with senuke, so it operates very quickly at times. I like that you can create forum backlinks relatively fast, and easy. all and all, it's a good tool. also like the URL manager that makes copying links and creating link structures very easy.

Magic submitter is perhaps one of my favorite tools. I used it one month on another site. The amount of content indexed and success rate of the software was staggering. for example after one month of use of senuke, every day, and one month of magic, every day, the amount of content indexed on magic was almost 50% higher than senuke. My ranks raised about the same amount, with about the same amount of competition as the senuke project. Magic adds micro blogs, wordpress blog network, PDF sharing sites, and PRess release sites to it's arsenal, and is updated more than senuke as far as adding new sites. The other cool thing (which i have not tried yet) is you can add an unltimited amount of your own sites into the software. requires some programing that i don't feel like messing with to be honest, however the instructions are there. and of course the number one cool thing is it's $67 instead of $127.

so all in all, i'm seriously considering dropping senuke, but i haven't made up my mind yet.

the other thing is, there are other similar softwares i'm looking into. one of them is steve hawkins software from here on the forum. it gets great reviews and it's a one time price.

i'd like to hear from people who use both senuke and magic, or one or the other. what's your thoughts.

thanks for reading and happy holidays.
matt jersan

EDIT I'd like to thank those that have contributed and kept this thread going strong. there has been a ton of useful info posted here in the last year. make sure you check out the whole thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    I wanted to chime in that i wrote support and alex responded with a yearly subscription price of $297. this is much cheaper than the 67 per month, and exceptionally cheaper than senuke's best deal. i would HIGHLY recceomend picking up magic submitter if you have the means. the only reason i kept senuke for so long is the speed. however, i am experiencing better indexing with magic and i am thinking now that i will drop senuke and move exclusively to magic. anyone have any issues with magic, please let me know. i have studied the software,; i know how to do everthing on it besides building new services into the software (don't care to do it).

    sites:
    senuke.com
    magicsubmitter.com

    hope this helps someone move in the right direction.
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    • Profile picture of the author artekweb
      we are using both

      so far senuke is better than ms
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      • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
        Originally Posted by DxSEO View Post

        we are using both

        so far senuke is better than ms

        Because that's what his signature is about....
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        • Profile picture of the author perswealth
          Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

          Because that's what his signature is about....
          Exactly. I'm not sure he's the best person to ask....
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          • Profile picture of the author sparckyz
            Originally Posted by DxSEO View Post

            we are using both

            so far senuke is better than ms
            Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

            DxSEO, in what way? Details please if you wouldn't mind.
            Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

            Because that's what his signature is about....
            Originally Posted by perswealth View Post

            Exactly. I'm not sure he's the best person to ask....
            lol lol lol...

            Thanks everyone so far for weighing in...

            I've always been put off by senuke, and been looking into MS. This thread may just sell me on MS, we'll see
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          • Profile picture of the author artekweb
            Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

            DxSEO, in what way? Details please if you wouldn't mind.
            because senuke is giving me and my clients better results also i can use 1 senuke license on 3 pc

            Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

            Because that's what his signature is about....
            Originally Posted by perswealth View Post

            Exactly. I'm not sure he's the best person to ask....
            Are you sure ??

            DxSEO have own top 5 "seo forum"

            Also we have lots of results to show you :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    DxSEO, in what way? Details please if you wouldn't mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author pirondi
    In my opinion Magic subimitter is Best than senuke.

    Why:

    Magic subimitter has more sites in all categories.

    And you can add your own sites.

    But i still use Senuke and Magic subimitter together,if i need to choose 1,it would be ms.
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      I just canceled magic submitter. it was slow, it would hang when creating accounts, and alot of accounts would fail. the social bookmarking module was ok, but for a monthly subscription i expect a little better success rate.

      right now i'm using seo link robot so we'll see what type of effect it has on my rankings.
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      • Profile picture of the author mattjay
        Originally Posted by brendan301 View Post

        I just canceled magic submitter. it was slow, it would hang when creating accounts, and alot of accounts would fail. the social bookmarking module was ok, but for a monthly subscription i expect a little better success rate.

        right now i'm using seo link robot so we'll see what type of effect it has on my rankings.
        that's funny. i never had much issues with magic so far, and when i did, i created a support ticket and it was resolved quickly. heck, the owner is even available on gchat, although i don't take advantage of that since i figure he doesn't want to be bothered lol.
        i would suggest trying again and starting a ticket with your problems. chances are he will take care of it.

        but i will say again, that senuke IS faster than MS. although honestly, i have better success with indexing on magic than i do with senuke. but crazy software junkie that i am, i will continue to use both a while lol. i also like using both softwares for service i sell. people seem to be more familiar with senuke than magic.

        god bless
        mattj
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexkandr Krulik
          Originally Posted by mattjay View Post

          that's funny. i never had much issues with magic so far, and when i did, i created a support ticket and it was resolved quickly. heck, the owner is even available on gchat, although i don't take advantage of that since i figure he doesn't want to be bothered lol.
          i would suggest trying again and starting a ticket with your problems. chances are he will take care of it.

          but i will say again, that senuke IS faster than MS. although honestly, i have better success with indexing on magic than i do with senuke. but crazy software junkie that i am, i will continue to use both a while lol. i also like using both softwares for service i sell. people seem to be more familiar with senuke than magic.

          god bless
          mattj
          yes I definitely will help.
          Regarding speed. Try to change delay settings on Options creen if you connection is fast set it to 5 sec.
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  • Profile picture of the author onlinevideoguy
    Which one is easier to implement? It sounds like there both good but which one has less of a learning curve for us busy marketers?
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    • Profile picture of the author mattjay
      Originally Posted by onlinevideoguy View Post

      Which one is easier to implement? It sounds like there both good but which one has less of a learning curve for us busy marketers?
      i would say magic is easier to learn. they have hours of content on how to best use it, unlike senuke. reading the manual you will be able to do everything it does the first time, besides programing new sites into the system. that took me a bit of trial and error.

      both are good. i use both but honestly i get better results with magic. i just keep senuke mainly because it's faster. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author onlinevideoguy
        Originally Posted by mattjay View Post

        i would say magic is easier to learn. they have hours of content on how to best use it, unlike senuke. reading the manual you will be able to do everything it does the first time, besides programing new sites into the system. that took me a bit of trial and error.

        both are good. i use both but honestly i get better results with magic. i just keep senuke mainly because it's faster. lol
        Thank You MattJay!

        I think I'm going to dive in the Magic! I see they have a 5 dollar trial for 30 days! Pretty cool! So if I cant make it work in 30 days then I am the problem! lol if you have an aff link feel free to PM me!
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    no that's okay the other cool thing about magic is i think they will sell you a year for 297 dollars. that's way cheaper than senuke's best deal. i wrote the owner and said a few things and that is what he responded with. i jumped on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cktan
    Can Magic Submitter multi-threading like SENuke?
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    magic can do eight threads at once. they may do more in the future. like alex said, you can speed up the process with magic with a good internet connection by setting the delay to "5' instead of ten.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Hey Matt any thoughts on Nuclear Link Blaster? Or would you stick with the Magic, baby?
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    • Profile picture of the author mattjay
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Hey Matt any thoughts on Nuclear Link Blaster? Or would you stick with the Magic, baby?
      i have NLB and their support has been awesome. however as far as building profile links, at least in my experience, it is WAY SLOW comparted to senuke. i wish senuke came with 2k sites to build to, but currently it's under 400.

      i ran NLB for almost 4 hours for my site and got just over 800 links on my site i targeted. to me that 's just sad. however, it still worked. the problem is i can't sell these packages to my clients as i wouldn't be able to keep up with orders at 4 hours a pop. so all and all i'd say it's a good tool. however i can run almost 400 profiles on senuke and all the ones on magic in just under 45 minutes. so i'm still shopping for the "ultimate" profile submitting tool.

      alex, i still am experiencing great success with your tool both in ranks and indexing. keep up the great work
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    The plus with SENUKE is that it's multithreaded, you run that baby on a powerful computer and it makes up for the index rate.

    I think that using both once a day to compare isn't fair at all.

    Because the plus of SENUKE is that you can use it more times during a day then Magic submitter (just because it's multithreaded)

    Both get the job done though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexkandr Krulik
      Originally Posted by Slin View Post

      The plus with SENUKE is that it's multithreaded, you run that baby on a powerful computer and it makes up for the index rate.

      I think that using both once a day to compare isn't fair at all.

      Because the plus of SENUKE is that you can use it more times during a day then Magic submitter (just because it's multithreaded)

      Both get the job done though.
      Magic Submitter is also multithreaded moreover it has build-in scheduler.

      So you have just to set tasks and may go to vacation.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    alas, i decided to keep seunke for one more month lol. i guess i'm just addicted to the speed of the software for certain tasks. but i'm still getting better indexing rates out of magic with the 2.0 wordpress pdf and press releases i submit.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneAbden
    when senuke X Release it will do more than magic submitter, also with magic submitter you still need to pay monthly for buying proxy IP since its using your ISP Ip when do submission
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    • Profile picture of the author mattjay
      Originally Posted by ZaneAbden View Post

      when senuke X Release it will do more than magic submitter, also with magic submitter you still need to pay monthly for buying proxy IP since its using your ISP Ip when do submission
      i'm not quite sure it's accurate that senuke x will do more than magic submitter does. i just bought a data base from someone here on the forum for magic and it added a number of different types of sites that i wasn't even aware it COULD add into the system. frankly i think you're skewed slightly by the fact that you are promoting senuke as an affiliate. have you ever even tried magic? i currently have 13 different types of sites i can submit to with magic, and i don't think from what i heard that senuke x will be able to do all of this. not only that, but hide my a(( private proxy works exceptionally well with magic, and i paid 70 dollars for a year of it. on top of this, i paid less than $300 for a YEAR of magic, which even with the deals senuke offers is far less.

      again it's all just a matter of oppinion, but i promote neither magic or senuke, just giving my honest oppinion.
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    • Do you know what will be the price on senuke x?

      Magic Submitter is a great application. I turned to it after I use senuke for a couple of days and became very fusterated. (however it's spelled.)

      Nevertheless Automation is Beautiful.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Ok, but it will also be double the price as well. I have tried magic and frankly like it. The price is good as well. Doing more doesn't necessarily make it better.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    hi super, they say x will be out before too long. they allready released the beta version to the longest subscribers, so it' shouldn't be too long. although i 'm sure they have bugs to work out.
    matt jersan
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    • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
      Hey guys,

      For someone using Magic submitter. Just wanted to know how well its maintained and updated? And if support is reasonably responsive (1-2 business days)? Thanks.

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      • Profile picture of the author mattjay
        Originally Posted by ahefner33 View Post

        Hey guys,

        For someone using Magic submitter. Just wanted to know how well its maintained and updated? And if support is reasonably responsive (1-2 business days)? Thanks.

        Adam
        magic updates come pretty regularly, alot faster than senuke. support is excellent. i've had the best luck writing alexander directly to his gmail address which is provided when he sends out emails. if you have any issues reaching him let me know.

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    I just cancel Magic Submitter... nice idea but extremmmmmely slow...
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    magic is slower, which is why i hang on to senuke lol, however it is very effective. the sites i submit to there, for whatever reason, get indexed much better than senuke with the same principle i follow with senuke. i submit all links to links2rss.com then submit them to the rss sites. much more effective with magic.
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    • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
      Originally Posted by mattjay View Post

      magic is slower, which is why i hang on to senuke lol, however it is very effective. the sites i submit to there, for whatever reason, get indexed much better than senuke with the same principle i follow with senuke. i submit all links to links2rss.com then submit them to the rss sites. much more effective with magic.
      Thanks for all the info Mattjay - there's no doubt that magic submitter is the superior product (slower but who cares, go do something else while it's running). I've never really bought into the whole web 2.0 stuff, I just can't really see the difference between it and article marketing

      Having said that, I'm still half considering it as I know many folks have had great success with it plus I need something that will distribute press releases anyways. Senuke was never gonna be an option, but I've been comparing MS with SEO link robot, I know SLR can't do press releases yet, but that's in production, plus it's a 1 time fee of $157 right now, which is still a ton better than the $297 yearly MS would cost - I'd be interested to hear if someone has tried both of these and which they recommend

      Ruchi
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexkandr Krulik
      Originally Posted by mattjay View Post

      magic is slower, which is why i hang on to senuke lol, however it is very effective. the sites i submit to there, for whatever reason, get indexed much better than senuke with the same principle i follow with senuke. i submit all links to links2rss.com then submit them to the rss sites. much more effective with magic.
      Matt, try to set delay on options screen to 5 sec it will submit faster
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    hi ruch, i'm curious to hear about the latest seo tool by mystic as well. what kind of SEO success users are experiencing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    Hey Matt, I have heard some good reviews about the product, I pasted the features it does (it has some additional features coming out such as press release and article submission, I'm not really bothered about the articles as I bought AMR this week, but the press release submission does sound good)
    • Creates you author accounts (web 2.0 ) on auto pilot (22+ sites and growing)
    • Auto Create 'Random' Open link wheel structures using simple article tags
    • Uses either inline article or footer urls tag linking
    • Spins and submits your articles and auto links url's
    • Auto builds you backlinks from web 2.0 properties
    • Auto Social Bookmarks all of your links
    • Auto RSS feed submissions for your RSS feeds
    • Automatically de-captchas using Death By Captcher or Decaptcher
    • Automates the verification of your emails

    Matt, I'd be interested to hear your opinion on why using web 2.0 properties is more powerful than say article submission
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by ruch1v View Post

      Hey Matt, I have heard some good reviews about the product, I pasted the features it does (it has some additional features coming out such as press release and article submission, I'm not really bothered about the articles as I bought AMR this week, but the press release submission does sound good)
      • Creates you author accounts (web 2.0 ) on auto pilot (22+ sites and growing)
      • Auto Create 'Random' Open link wheel structures using simple article tags
      • Uses either inline article or footer urls tag linking
      • Spins and submits your articles and auto links url's
      • Auto builds you backlinks from web 2.0 properties
      • Auto Social Bookmarks all of your links
      • Auto RSS feed submissions for your RSS feeds
      • Automatically de-captchas using Death By Captcher or Decaptcher
      • Automates the verification of your emails

      Matt, I'd be interested to hear your opinion on why using web 2.0 properties is more powerful than say article submission
      I've been using SEOLR for about a month now. Love it. It's quick, it's simple, comes with a pinger and meta indexer, will have article submission capabilites (I have AMR, so not real concerned with this), video submission is planned in the future, and who knows what else.

      SEOLR is going to go to a monthly fee like Magic and SEnuke. Those who buy before January though, do not pay the monthly fee. I'm kind of glad about the monthly fee. I think it further ensures that we will see this product updated on a regular basis. Also, I won't have to pay it :p

      (Full disclaimer. I am an affiliate for the product, but only became an affiliate after using the product myself and realizing how easy it was to use. I could have easily began pushing Magic or SEnuke and collect monthly commissions from customers. At the time, I had no idea SEOLR was going to go to a monthly fee.)

      As far as Web 2.0 sites vs article marketing... Obviously AMR is an amazing product that makes article marketing a cinch. What I personally like about using Web 2.0 sites in conjunction with article marketing is that you can build a little bit more of an authority site by posting multiple articles in the same niche to the same site.

      I personally do a lot of both, along with forum profiles, press releases, social bookmarking, and sporadic blog commenting.
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    Hi Mike, do you use SLR for bookmarking, or something external like BMD?

    Ruchi
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by ruch1v View Post

      Hi Mike, do you use SLR for bookmarking, or something external like BMD?

      Ruchi
      I had BMD before I ever owned SEOLR. With BMD, there is no need for any other bookmarking tools. It's the best.

      So, no I do not use SEOLR for bookmarking. I only use BMD.
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  • Profile picture of the author DJ DeMarco
    I go with Magic Submitter since its cheaper than senuke. And I think Magic Submitter is fit with my link building style. To be honest, I can't afford $ 127/month only for a tool :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    Can SEnuke and Magic Submitter break captchas or we need to purchase Decaptcher credits? What about proxies???
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    • Profile picture of the author lior1970
      Originally Posted by AlexBarboza View Post

      Can SEnuke and Magic Submitter break captchas or we need to purchase Decaptcher credits? What about proxies???
      I don't know about Magic Submitter, but SENuke can be integrated with decaptcha services and you can definitely work behind a proxy. How do I know? I'm using SENuke this very moment :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve23
        Just bought the MS trial. I ran the installation, but when I tried to launch the software I got:


        "This program requires Microsoft Internet Explorer version 8 or higher to operate.

        Please Install Explorer version 8 from Microsoft's website before running."


        Next steps?

        S.

        p.s. I have Windows Vista 64 bit
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    • Profile picture of the author bjking
      I prefare Magic Submitter to SEnuke because Magic Submitter will submit your links to various areas such as Article Directories, Bookmarking Services, Blogs, RSS feeds, Video sites, Profile Links through Expression Engine, PR sites, WordPress Blogs, Micro Blogs and PDF sharing sites With ease. Notice that these are just distinct services that it submits to and does not entail the many websites that are contained within said services, which honestly could amount to a thousand links. You could also add some of your favourite submission sites via its customization feature, allowing you to effectively double the number of sites you submit to or adjust the page rank (PR) quality of some the submission sites. I do not think you can customize SEnuke
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    just download and install the latest version of IE and you should be fine.
    MS does support multiple captchas services. for proxy; i use hide my a** proxy service and it works like a champ with senuke and MS.
    hope this helps.

    matt jersan
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Weiler
      I have been using Nuke for quite some time. It has it's Pro's and Cons.
      I think I am going to try out magic submitter to change things up a
      bit.

      I will let you know how it goes.
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    • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
      Originally Posted by mattjay View Post

      just download and install the latest version of IE and you should be fine.
      MS does support multiple captchas services. for proxy; i use hide my a** proxy service and it works like a champ with senuke and MS.
      hope this helps.


      matt jersan

      do you use the paid service? could you pm me with some info on hidemyass?
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      • Profile picture of the author mekap04
        I also paid for the 30 day trial for Magic Submitter. So far I am not impressed. Its buggy and slow and I am having trouble with account creations and submissions. Senuke did a better job for me in my opinion. I did try support on this but it's been a few days and no response. Think I will try SEO link robot or something else.
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        • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
          Originally Posted by mekap04 View Post

          I also paid for the 30 day trial for Magic Submitter. So far I am not impressed. Its buggy and slow and I am having trouble with account creations and submissions. Senuke did a better job for me in my opinion. I did try support on this but it's been a few days and no response. Think I will try SEO link robot or something else.
          TBH, I think right now Magic is better than SEO Link Robot. However, Steve has stated lot's of adding/updates in the near future that can make it better. Right now, from the experience I have with SEnuke and Magic, I find them very similar besides the interfaces. Alot of things though are needed that you don't really find out about unless you do a lot of reading on the forums, like senukes. Private proxies, only using self hosted emails, lowering the threads, copying your text into notepad before putting it in the program etc... that will help your success rate alot.

          As for slow, I never used over 6 browsers/threads in senuke for creations and magic allows you to use a max of 8. Pretty fast imo but thats just from my preferences.

          Also, contacting support I have found to be fastest using there forums.
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          • Profile picture of the author podman
            if i start with the monthly subscription with magic submitter, can i upgrade to the annual membership after a month or 2 if i really love it?
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          • Profile picture of the author bioss
            hi all.
            my opinion is that SeNuke is better. its work faster and easy to use ,
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            • Profile picture of the author Tengalon
              Originally Posted by amuro View Post

              For those of you who are not comfortable with either Senuke nor Magic Submitter due to recurring charges, you might want to consider Incansoft Tools.

              Those tools you may need like Adbot, Articlebot, Blogbot etc are sold separately for just one time $29.95.

              Like should be compared with like. So, don't see how incansoft got on to this tread. I don't really see incansoft as an automation software in terms of how far we've progressed in that department. I have most of their software (curiosity killed the cat) and the failure rate in all depatments is comparable to find a 20 year old virgin in a central London night club. We are talking here about signing up, e mail confirmation, submitting content etc. None of them support captcha...you have to go o'manual. Not sure how anyone can classify that as automation. Yes it will open the sites web pages but that is as far as they go and if you want to move on to the next site you must help the software (manually) do that.

              Enough said!
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexkandr Krulik
          Originally Posted by mekap04 View Post

          I also paid for the 30 day trial for Magic Submitter. So far I am not impressed. Its buggy and slow and I am having trouble with account creations and submissions. Senuke did a better job for me in my opinion. I did try support on this but it's been a few days and no response. Think I will try SEO link robot or something else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshyybaxx
    SE Nuke works.

    I haven't used magic but yeah... =\
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  • Profile picture of the author 101millionAds
    Originally Posted by mattjay View Post

    I am a user of both SENUKE and MAGIC SUBMITTER.

    here are my thoughts on both of them...

    Senuke does a few things that are different from magic submitter. I tested it on a site for one month, using senuke the smart way for one month. Not as much content was indexed as much as i'd like, however it did work to raise my ranks. I like that you can have many threads going with senuke, so it operates very quickly at times. I like that you can create forum backlinks relatively fast, and easy. all and all, it's a good tool. also like the URL manager that makes copying links and creating link structures very easy.

    Magic submitter is perhaps one of my favorite tools. I used it one month on another site. The amount of content indexed and success rate of the software was staggering. for example after one month of use of senuke, every day, and one month of magic, every day, the amount of content indexed on magic was almost 50% higher than senuke. My ranks raised about the same amount, with about the same amount of competition as the senuke project. Magic adds micro blogs, wordpress blog network, PDF sharing sites, and PRess release sites to it's arsenal, and is updated more than senuke as far as adding new sites. The other cool thing (which i have not tried yet) is you can add an unltimited amount of your own sites into the software. requires some programing that i don't feel like messing with to be honest, however the instructions are there. and of course the number one cool thing is it's $67 instead of $127.

    so all in all, i'm seriously considering dropping senuke, but i haven't made up my mind yet.

    the other thing is, there are other similar softwares i'm looking into. one of them is steve hawkins software from here on the forum. it gets great reviews and it's a one time price.

    i'd like to hear from people who use both senuke and magic, or one or the other. what's your thoughts.

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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Still waiting for the seo lr demo soi i can compare both.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Still waiting for the seo lr demo soi i can compare both.
      Not sure if you are aware or not, but the trial is out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dani723
    I've used SEnuke and am now looking for an alternative because of the pricing. I'm trying out SEO Link Robot at the moment, and it seems like amazing value. You don't get the forum posting, article, or video module, but these modules are being worked on at the moment and it's updated regularly.

    It's better laid out and quick to manage, and they had a release today that added two new social network sites making a total of 6 social network sites that SEnuke doesn't have.

    The main problem I have is that as far as I can see, you can only use one set of social bookmarking accounts at a time. They recommend you use them for 5-6 weeks then change them. But I'm making hundreds of links a day on multiple projects, so those accounts will be banned very quickly if I try to even add half my links to them!

    Did I get this right? Because if there's something I've missed here about SEO Link Robot, I'd like to hear about it. Otherwise, I'm very happy with it so far.

    But SEnuke X is coming out, and maybe I'm better off staying with SEnuke or at least SEnuke Lite (niche research and social network site modules only) to avoid the price rise.

    I just don't know what to do right now...
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Buckley
      I <3 SENUKE i feel it's a lot quicker, can live without it tbh
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    I vote for Magic Submitter. Continual improvements, fast support and half the price.
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    • Profile picture of the author suemax
      Great thread, guys, and thanks for all contributors. I am leaning towards Magic. I will try to find the thread again when I am in a position to pass comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dani723
    Here's a crucial question noones asked, does MS offer assignable anchor text for last URL and random URL features?

    As amazing as SEnuke is, for whatever crazy reason, there's no way to add assignable anchor text for either of these types of links, and so my posts are really slow as I add two tier 1 links into my tier 2 posts.

    SEO Link robot have this feature for both type of link, but I'm dropping them, because only being allowed one set of social bookmarks is a truely fatal flaw. It's such a shame, because if they changed it to randomly select them, they'd be nearly as good as SEnuke for a one-time fee.

    I hear the one-time fee is changing to a monthly subscription very, very soon btw, so you should try out their software before that happens. If you already own a great social bookmarking program, then you should buy it for the social network, RSS, indexer, and pinger features, because they're planning to add an article and video module soon, and pretty much mirror everything SEnuke does.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    I've asked at the user forum. I THINK it does but want to be sure. I'm still learning it and loving it, so hopefully I'll have an answer for you soon.

    EDIT: Not yet it doesn't!
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  • Profile picture of the author youallnome
    Some great thinking going on here. Thank's for that.

    I'm using seNuke at the moment. I've been using it for 3 months.

    I have to say I really like seNuke. I could spent all day on it, even though I don't fully understand everything I'm doing!

    I can't compare the speed to another piece of software.
    SeNuke is fast. As for multi browsing, I always have at least 9 separate browsers open when I submit. Apart from social network nuke, where I take it down to 2.

    The basics are simple. The thing works really well. The capture is fine. Proxy is excellent. The built in link to the best spinner works well and speeds things up for sure.

    The advanced stuff for me is a little bit more difficult to work out. I'm a technophobic-idiot, and there are lots of us.

    The negatives for me with seNuke
    Out dated training is a problem for me. The creators of seNuke know there stuff. The trouble is with tech-type is they think we can all do as they can!

    Their training videos need up dating and better explained.

    The price seems high at first.
    Although if you compare the results with the price it would cost you to outsource that amount of profile creation, video and article submission, book marking, rss submission and pinging.

    Maybe not so expensive.

    I'm really thinking about trying magic submitter.
    The interface looks better. Keeping control looks simpler. And press release is a very big plus, especially at the price magic is being offered at.

    The speed issue people keep mentioning is the sticking point for me with magic submitter.

    I'm not looking to own both seNuke and magic submitter like some people.
    The idea is to have the best all in one package. Or at least the better of the 2 is the one I want to own!

    I think I might take the cheap trial with magic submitter while my Senuke is still active and test them side by side.

    I'll be happy to add feed back once I have some data.
    Thank you again for the reviews and feed back. It was perfect timing.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark-Dickenson
      For the Serious SEO, I gotta Say Magic Submitter

      The reason being, if you have a list of little known high PR web 2.0 sites(I have 100+) , you can add these into Magic Submitter and save a ton of money from outsourcing and give yourself a HUGE advantage in your niche

      I looked into SEO Link Robot but you can't add your sites

      So for me, Magic Submitter smokes the competition

      And it has come a LONG way since he launched it

      Just my 2 cents

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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Mark-Dickenson View Post

        I looked into SEO Link Robot but you can't add your sites


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        Deal breaker and I was considering it but did not know this
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark-Dickenson
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Deal breaker and I was considering it but did not know this
          I totally agree.

          20 Web 2.0 sites doesn't do it for me

          Also, with Magic Submitter, if you have a nice list of Wordpress blogs, you can easily put them in the software

          They also have press release sites...and again, you can add your own

          This thing is an IP Spread Machine
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          • Profile picture of the author vij
            MS is better in terms of "customization potential" "price" and "variety"

            I am someone who took the yearly subscription early on and dumped the software for 4 months. Checked it out 2 months back and its vastly improved. Now MS has matured and is a must have software IMO.

            But you have to spend time with it to like it perhaps.
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  • Profile picture of the author klauzer
    To someone that knows.

    I heard that when submitting articles/post you only see if the article/post was submitted. You can't get the url to this post so it can be pinged, only the url to your ptofile. Is that correct?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    You actually do get the URL of the article through the Link Manager. If you add your own sites, there is the "save link" command that you will have to put in there, but all sites that the developer has in there have this command. The link manager works like a charm. I've suggested to him to add the ability to export title, URL and keyword into a spreadsheet for client reporting. He's working on it. I swear Alex doesn't sleep
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  • Profile picture of the author shafiqkamal
    Hi,

    I've been using the Magic Submitter Trial version and feel that it's not what I need in my business model for now. Anyone know how do i cancel my subscription so that they won't charge my credit card automatically?

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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    What about SENUKEX vs MS...whole new ball game?

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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      What about SENUKEX vs MS...whole new ball game?

      ~Dexx
      From what I've seen briefly last night of senuke x I'm struggling to find something it does that magic submitter doesn't do for half the price. I guess the main thing is the fact you can have it on 3 pc's which is obviously a big thing if you have some support staff etc. However, magic submitter also has a scheduler as well as the ability to add new sites so at the moment I'm just not seeing why some people are saying it's way better.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by sorrellaff View Post

        I'm just not seeing why some people are saying it's way better.
        well the affiliate payment on a lifetime license should tell you why. After taking it for a spin and hearing how way ahead it was I was actually surprised to see it come with so few links. At the end of the day a link building tool is all about the links it leaves. Right now Senuke is not only not way better than MS, MS blows it away and Sick has it beat too.

        Now I fully expect that Senuke will add more links but after all the hype 22 social bookmarks really? 50 web 2.0 accounts? The hype of this product will continue because the diagrammer is some nice eye candy but you want to send bookmarks to your social site links you could always do that without a diagrammer . In my opinion the real crazy people are the ones buying lifetime licenses. theres not a single module that does what it does better than existing tools.

        Try to rank a site with just SenukeX with no ability to add extra links and few other links and MS where you could add 22 bookmarks in about half an hour and the MS user will smoke the SEnuke user. Sick same thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          well the affiliate payment on a lifetime license should tell you why. After taking it for a spin and hearing how way ahead it was I was actually surprised to see it come with so few links. At the end of the day a link building tool is all about the links it leaves. Right now Senuke is not only not way better than MS, MS blows it away and Sick has it beat too.

          Now I fully expect that Senuke will add more links but after all the hype 22 social bookmarks really? 50 web 2.0 accounts? The hype of this product will continue because the diagrammer is some nice eye candy but you want to send bookmarks to your social site links you could always do that without a diagrammer . In my opinion the real crazy people are the ones buying lifetime licenses. theres not a single module that does what it does better than existing tools.

          Try to rank a site with just SenukeX with no ability to add extra links and few other links and MS where you could add 22 bookmarks in about half an hour and the MS user will smoke the SEnuke user. Sick same thing.
          Agreed. MS comes fully loaded with nearly 200 social bookmarking links and over 800 forum links, not to mention everything else, plus the ability to add more of your own. People seem to have been blinded somewhat by those diagram pictures without taking into consideration the simple matter of how many links you actually get for your money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ziadjbt78
    So MS literally does everything SEnuke X can do, only better? Because I was opting to purchase the life time membership of Senuke X until I read this thread... Now I'm really confused any insight guys would be extremely appreciated to help me make up my mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
      Originally Posted by Ziadjbt78 View Post

      So MS literally does everything SEnuke X can do, only better? Because I was opting to purchase the life time membership of Senuke X until I read this thread... Now I'm really confused any insight guys would be extremely appreciated to help me make up my mind.

      Ye, I think if you went and bought a lifetime licence and then realised you could get a better service with MS for $67 per month you'd probably be a little annoyed. With MS you get 200 social bookmarking sites, 100 video sites, over 70 article sites, about 100 wordpress blogs, 74 status.net micro blogs, 870 forums, about 30 web 2.0 sites, 14 rss feed chanels and a scheduler, mass pinger, and the ability to add even more links into it. In my opinion it's not even a close competition. MS is just head and shoulders the best one at the moment.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Ziadjbt78 View Post

      ? Because I was opting to purchase the life time membership of Senuke X until I read this thread..mind.

      Nooooooo! Ziadjbt. IF you have that kind of money to spend you would be 100 times better learning how to evaluate and buy PR 3-4 expiring domains with real links on them not investing in any software. Anyone that knows SEo will tell you that building your own high pagerank network is not only far better than bookmarking , profile links but it actually ends up paying for itself.

      From what I see the only thing that Senuke now has going for it is the diagrammer. No single module on its own besides that beats what you can buy for far cheaper. Will you be able to do it all in one at the same time? No

      but what all the pushers of this product are forgetting is that SEO IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT THING. You don't put 100 backlinks up and then check in an hour and your site is then number one. So what if today you use one tool to put up say a few hundred good articles with AMR and then tomorrow go back and backlink them with Bookmark demon. those two pieces of software are going to give you much better features and more of those links. and what have you spent. $200

      Pay $15 a month for Sick and add in same kind of links but more of them and if you have a pile of links tht you want to use that no one else is (very important) you can go with $67 a month for MS (actually if you google a discount thats still available its $52).

      and if you want to be even more hands off there are plenty of cheap pieces of software that will schedule start and stop any windows program for you so it works even when you are asleep. Sio its a simple question - is the diagrammer really worth the difference? and if someone says yes -ask them why and analyze if thats true for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dani723
    With Senuke X you can add any new sites you want now, so the main advantage MS had is gone.

    MS is just far, far too slow to be effective for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Dani723 View Post

      With Senuke X you can add any new sites you want now, so the main advantage MS had is gone.
      Absolutely false . the only sites you can add in SenukeX are forum links if they are running on platforms that match with what SEnuke has. You can setup MS to leave links, submit text, fill any kind of profile on ANY web page. You can add forums and others sites in Sick for $15 a month.

      The main advantage of MS and sick are still very firmly in place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dani723
    Hmm, that's unfortunate. I can't download SEnuke X at the moment, so was just paraphrasing what I've heard from the reviews.

    In which case, I still think the ability to set and forget it, after setting up an entire campaign is of great benefit to people that can then go and work on something else. I hear reports that it requires some maintenance, but only the occasional click, across an entire session involving social network, bookmark, RSS, and the rest. We're not just talking about some pretty tack-on feature here, this could be a huge time saver, and ensure we don't forget various stages of our SEO.

    I'll give it a month to play around with the templates before considering MS again. They plan to raise the lifetime subscription to $2,500, which does seem obscene when software such as SEO Link Robot will set you back about $150, one time fee.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    *rolls eyes* If you have: Article Marketing Robot, Bookmarking Demon, Sick Submitter, and Scrapebox, that's it I think. With the exception of Sick, there's no monthly fee and ALL of those other tools have schedulers in them. Hmmm. I think I just talked myself into getting Bookmarking Demon. Have everything else. Point is, if you're on a budget, these tools will do you fine as you can add your own sites, etc. And still have enough left over in the kitty to take the family to dinner.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kysersoze
    I left SENuke for MagicSubmitter and was happy with it for a while. It is definitely better than the original SENuke in my opinion but recently it has become slower for me and I get a lot of failures. I'm gonna try the new SENuke X, seems faster from what others have said and the diagram is a cool feature.

    One thing that sucks with all these platforms is the fact that the customers are paying monthly fees yet the developers do not maintain the sites included within the platform. A lot of those sites go bad after a while, go offline and it never gets updated. Also for both MS and SENuke X, there should be new sites added monthly. They are making enough money to pay someone to monitor these things and keep a fresh list.
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  • Profile picture of the author steve-wilkins
    I had personally been using SENuke the original version for 2 years and it allowed me to rank top of Google for every launch I have been involved in so far, if you type affiliate promo formula (a product I was an affiliate for in Feb 2011), you will find me top actually dominating Google's first page and it has allowed me to dominate for every launch I have been involved in so far.

    I have now updated to SENukeX which is my opinion is revolutinary compared to the original version. Some elements I particularly like is the schedular which allows you to chain your links and schedule when they go out making your campaigns looks much more natural with regards to link building in the search engines. I also love the diagram designer and have even created some really profitable linking campaigns which I share on my site in my Sig below as well as some other new features compared to the old version of SENuke.

    All in all, I don;t yet have a complaint with SENukex aparts from a few minor bugs but the producers are alsways very quick to respond to support requests and constantly add updates and fixes almost daily. Anyway just my take on things..
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    I have yet to find any software for backlink building that I actually like. Just bought magic and I don't like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ngywng
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I have yet to find any software for backlink building that I actually like. Just bought magic and I don't like it.
      After do a lot research, probably will choose MS because is more cheaper than SenukeX.
      The only disadvantage i heard is : MS is the much slower than SenukeX.

      Before Jump into MS, can you tell me why you don't like MS?
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      • Profile picture of the author ebiz4u
        I have used both the old SENuke and now MS. I found the old SENUke to be very difficult for a non-techie ) like me and MS is somewhat easier.

        As far as speed the MS has a great feature, The Scheduler, that is set and forget, of course it takes some work setting it up.

        Don't have much in the way of increased page rank, backlinks yet.

        I would like to hear more about the new SENuke before I make my ultimate choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author burnsai
    I've been using SenukeX for a couple weeks now. Here's my opinion:

    It's pretty cool, but Unless you use every part of it on a daily basis it is too expensive. I only use the web 2.0 feature. I have other tools like Bookmarking Demon that I think are better for doing specific tasks.

    The big selling point is that you can chain all the events together - set and forget, this is nice in theory, but just does not work in my experience, and will probably never will work. There are just too many things that can go wrong (and usually do).

    But, like I said, the stuff that does work is pretty cool!
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  • Profile picture of the author speedfrog
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    Where can I find the link to buy the MS yearly membership? I don't see that on their site.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    wow i haven't looked at this thread in almost 4 months and i'm really pleased with what it has become. i have not checked out senuke x after i had some customer service complaints from using senuke that were never addressed. i would agree that the training with senuke absolutley SUCKED and they didn't show any signs of addressing that issue either. i had nominal results with the original senuke and much better with magic. that is still my oppinion and i don't even know how much senuke x is, nor do i care. all i know is i am friends with areeb on facebook and have b een seeing him posting about errors and problems recently lol...

    anyway, i hope this thread has helped some people choose what's right for them. there are those that will tell you that ultimatley manual seo is the way to go, i personally do both and do okay.

    happy easter.
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  • Profile picture of the author charto911
    Got some questions:
    ]With the new SENUKE out is there still a need for Magic submitter?
    How much programmer experience do you need?
    Is it possible to run it from a laptop or does it take up too much processing power?

    DO you have to purchase anything else in conjunction?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Yes there is still a need for MS. I've tried SENuke and prefer MS on the basis of the fact that it is easier to work with and you can add your own sites and services.
    You don't need to be a programmer at all, adding and fixing sites is literally point and click.
    I've run it from my laptop which is three years old and have not had an issue. The scheduler is a godsend especially since if you suddenly have a crash, it will start from where it left off. No other purchase required, though Dave Carr does sell a couple of sweet add-ons for RSS and Backlink Energizer (which is a wordpress plugin).
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Not in my experience. And there are limitations with the diagramming tool. And its $147 a month.
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    • Profile picture of the author dotcomdesigns
      There's a lot of people running senuke x services on Fiverr. I'm trying a couple out at the moment. If they do what they claim I don't see much point in me buying any monthly software in future. You've got people spinning articles, blasting with senuke, UAW submissions, AMR services and so on for $5 a pop.

      I suppose if you have tons of sites you may be able to justify $147 a month. If not I'd look at Fiverr for your seo work to begin with.
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  • Profile picture of the author maidmarion
    Its true what some have said 'if you know what you are doing this tool is great!'

    For the beginner Senuke X is still a bit complex, some areas need to be explained more!
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    • Profile picture of the author TWalker
      SeNuke gets a thumbs down from me. So far I like magic submitter and it does have a whole heck of a lot more options as far as properties and sites to submit to as well as the customization feature for custom sites and custom fields.

      I used SNX briefly but wasn't impressed. I use only what works for me and what gets quality links Indexed.

      A year ago when I did use SEnuke seriously I had a real tough time getting any links indexed. So it left a bad taste in my mouth for all of the money that I paid for it.

      The only reason I would use SNX over MS is the scheduler and the mapper. MS has the scheduler and it's not worth double the price for the mapper.
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  • Profile picture of the author srimprop
    we are using both

    i think so far senuke is better than ms
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  • Profile picture of the author faceblogger
    MS is worth it's price more than SENuke.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Matterson
    I've had experience with both of them - and really - they are both great, they just offer advantages in different ways.

    I'm suprised more people haven't brought up Magic Submitter's designer and how they have used it themselves. Very handy for some sites out there
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  • Profile picture of the author Elik1111
    Alex, Is the MS beta version free to try? for how long?
    I had the 1 version when it cam out a year ago but had problems, I am willing to try it again.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    As I understand it you have to be a current customer to use the beta. At least when I tried to use it, it wouldn't let me.
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  • Profile picture of the author tbohannon
    Ok...read this thread completely and still confused if SENukeX is worth staying with or should I just hire Fivvers or move to Magic Submitter.

    I have not implemented SENukeX due to the learning curve and been too busy on other projects, but I hear there are limitations to adding sites, etc. in SENukeX?

    I will be needing to drive promotions for 8 sites for about 60 days, and then that will scale to 100 sites+ in 90-120 days.

    I have a VPS that I can run SENukeX or any SEO tools for that matter....but I don't want to have to become an SENuke Guru and baybsit the tool...when I can outsource or just run a much easier to operate tool like Magic Submitter is being positioned to be.

    Knowing where I am and what my operational goals are...can you weigh in with experienced advice?

    Thanks in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author genuine86
    I know this question doesn't regard Magic Submitter or SENukeX, but has anyone experienced any results with Unique Article Wizard? I'm wondering which article submitter is the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonHascue
    I use both, and use them regularly.

    But just based on price and ease of use, I would put MS on top.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author steelbone
    Alexandr

    Is there still a yearly price for this?

    If so how do I order it that way?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author DSepanik
    I have had both, but canceled SeNuk X. It is way over priced, and now with the new Magic Submitter update it has a visual campaign designer like SeNuke X plus many more submission sites than SeNuke X.
    Magic Submitter support and training is incredible.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Steelbone: yearly is $474.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      Hey Folks...

      I'm hoping this is the right thread...sounds like there are quite a few experts here so...

      I must admit I'm not familiar with either service, other than knowing that their good for SEO...lol

      Here's my question.

      Let's say I have a crowd sourcing site so to speak that is built on the WP Platform with multiple users submitting links (new pages) and content (new posts). Can SENuke do it's magic for each new post /page? or is it specific to just submitting one main site url?

      If it's not capable...any recommendations?

      I would like to provide automated juice for each new page that is submitted..providing backlinks to each new "Page Link"

      make sense?

      Hoping for some feedback.

      Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
        Sean,

        You might want to take a look at WP Syndicator.... this submits each post automatically to all the web 2.0 sites for back links and link juice. They have a sale going on for 66% off right now and everytime you make a post it will work on autopilot.

        I own Senuke X also and highly recommend it ....it does all the above(meaning you can set it up to submit) but Senuke X is way more powerful than just that. However the price is a lot more as well but diffently worth the investment

        PS: Another good alternative for post back link juice automation would be Web Traffic Genius Plugin

        hope this helps




        Originally Posted by Sean A McAlister View Post

        Hey Folks...

        I'm hoping this is the right thread...sounds like there are quite a few experts here so...

        I must admit I'm not familiar with either service, other than knowing that their good for SEO...lol

        Here's my question.

        Let's say I have a crowd sourcing site so to speak that is built on the WP Platform with multiple users submitting links (new pages) and content (new posts). Can SENuke do it's magic for each new post /page? or is it specific to just submitting one main site url?

        If it's not capable...any recommendations?

        I would like to provide automated juice for each new page that is submitted..providing backlinks to each new "Page Link"

        make sense?

        Hoping for some feedback.

        Thanks!
        Sean
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        • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
          Originally Posted by Gary Pettit View Post

          Sean,

          You might want to take a look at WP Syndicator.... this submits each post automatically to all the web 2.0 sites for back links and link juice. They have a sale going on for 66% off right now and everytime you make a post it will work on autopilot.

          I own Senuke X also and highly recommend it ....it does all the above but is way more powerful than just that. However the price is a lot more as well but diffently worth the investment

          hope this helps
          Hey Gary, I appreciate it!

          I understand the investment of Senuke but that may not be an issue if I can provide the value to users.

          So if I understand you correctly.

          1) I can set up SENuke to Automate submissions each time a New Page is published via my site?

          2) What if there are multiple pages being published quickly (meaning a large subscriber base?)
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by Sean A McAlister View Post

            Hey Gary, I appreciate it!

            I understand the investment of Senuke but that may not be an issue if I can provide the value to users.

            So if I understand you correctly.

            1) I can set up SENuke to Automate submissions each time a New Page is published via my site?

            2) What if there are multiple pages being published quickly (meaning a large subscriber base?)
            You would have to setup a project for each new post that is made. The nice thing with both programs is that there is a scheduler, so you can set the campaign to finish as fast or go on for as long as you like.

            I've been using SEnuke X since the day it came out. I just recently went back to Magic Submitter to try it again. I had tried it about a year ago and wasn't overly thrilled with it.

            I'm strongly considering going back to MS for a couple of reasons. It submits to far more sites. You can enter in your own sites to submit to (SEnuke X only allows you to add forums of your own). The ability to add sites is nice if you find some good trading partners that have added sites as well. The diagram module for setting up a link campaign gives you more control in MS.

            I will say SEnuke X is a little more hands off. It has a slightly higher degree of automation. SEnuke X also recently converted all its modules to sockets. No more web browser. That should cut down on crashes. I run everything off of a pretty good VPS and never had a problem with crashes, but others did.

            Just my $.02.
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      • Profile picture of the author DSepanik
        Originally Posted by Sean A McAlister View Post

        Hey Folks...

        I'm hoping this is the right thread...sounds like there are quite a few experts here so...

        I must admit I'm not familiar with either service, other than knowing that their good for SEO...lol

        Here's my question.

        Let's say I have a crowd sourcing site so to speak that is built on the WP Platform with multiple users submitting links (new pages) and content (new posts). Can SENuke do it's magic for each new post /page? or is it specific to just submitting one main site url?

        If it's not capable...any recommendations?

        I would like to provide automated juice for each new page that is submitted..providing backlinks to each new "Page Link"

        make sense?

        Hoping for some feedback.

        Thanks!
        Sean
        I am using Web Traffic Genius to do what you want. It automatically creates many links each time you create a post.
        Works great, and one time payment.
        Dan
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Never been a fan of Senuke X

          BUt after using MS campaign manager that allow me to work with any kind of link. add my own sites and link opportunities its just no contest. MS in the hands of someone with multiple kinds of link opportunities now runs laps around Senuke for SEO and at half the cost

          Alex thanks for unlocking the trial. I'll be staying on this time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    Will Magic Submitter post articles into Drupal websites?

    Is this standard or is there some "tweaking" required?

    Thanks,

    Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author IsGabeW
    I tried them both and maybe I am stupid ( although I really dont think I am) and can't say I had decent results for my niches.

    So, I simply use someone from fiverr for my senukex blasts now for low quality stuff & pay someone from hiring section here for my web 2.0 backlink packages. I get MUCHHHHHHH better results and much LESSSSS time spent...AND less money when it comes to SENukeX.

    Again, maybe it was me. But I had very low acceptance rates on both systems. Maybe I tried runs too fast or didnt use proxies or something, I have no idea. But I was spending so much time that I found it better to just outsource for $5 a run on fiverr.

    Not really knocking either team because it definitely takes intelligence to create systems like this. But to me it seems the products are maybe rushed and their technology isnt quite ready for mainstream.

    Try them both then decide...
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  • Profile picture of the author Letsurf
    I have Traffic Travis but it only allows the tracking of page rank of a site if the pages are in top 100 position. Is there a good software that I can use that is relatively inexpensive that focuses on tracking the rank of the clients website? would also like to be able to print reports to show the client improvements (like a chart)...
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    • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
      Originally Posted by vgregory View Post

      Magic submitter sucks! Its not a user friendly application...
      That's funny, I've not seen you around the forums. It is NOT SENUKE. It is way more flexible. But you DO need to take the time to (a) READ the manual and (b) USE the video training. Alex is also always on Skype to answer questions and will hop onto TeamViewer if there is a problem. Add to that, the fact that there is always new video training seminars being done and the fact that it is less than half the cost and you've got a winner in my book.

      But some people want a "push button, make money" app. And that will never happen. The key for any of this software of course is a solid understanding of SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
      DON'T BUY MAGIC SUBMITTER!! (If you are my competition).
      I have or i tested almost all submission software, and magic submitter has NO COMPETITION!

      Originally Posted by Yaros View Post

      They both are effective. MAGIC SUBMITTER is slower, but cheaper)
      Have you tested socket submission mode? This is DAMN FAST.

      I can create new services, i dont have to buy new software, when i have some problems, Alex will help me (now he is trying to solve one problem for me). MS has all you need, and more, but PLEASE, use Senuke and submit always to the same damn sites, as your competition do.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by PabloM90 View Post

        but PLEASE, use Senuke and submit always to the same damn sites, as your competition do.
        LOL. Finally someone gets it. Until you can add any kind of site that you wish SenukeX is nothing but an eye candy toy that sucks your pockets. Now MS even has the same if not better eye candy with their own campaign manager.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnsmart
    Have tried both but I honestly prefer the magic submitter because you get contents index more quickly compared to SENUKE. But then is worth giving but a try to determine which is best for you as done man's meat just might be another man's poison..

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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    yup. I LOVE the new campaign editor. Makes things much easier. Its faster too. Best of the breed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Lee Jr
    I am coming back to Magic Submitter exactly for that reason. The Sockets

    Just my opinion but I also thought the support for MS was better.
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
    Yeah, support its pretty bad, because on some cases only Alex can help you, and he is very busy, so yeah, support its pretty bad..
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    I've never had an issue with support myself. Alex has always been prompt, especially if you put a ticket in.
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  • Profile picture of the author evazk
    support was not bad but the was delayed. i do not have any issues till now with there support.
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  • Profile picture of the author Berkinb
    Is the socket update completed for MS? I've used it in October for the last time and approximately 1/3 of the sites were socketed. I wonder if Alex has completed the transition?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    D37 a month won't cut it to really learn how to use the software effectively.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattjay
    i would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread and kept it going. it just showed me that there was a new magic submitter version which i am checking out...NOW! even after a year the poor customer service i had from senuke about a certain issue will not even allow me to check out senuke x. i hear good and bad about them though.

    great thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author traderbenji
    Ok, I have just spent the past 3 hours going through youtube vids, review sites - mainly affiliate sites so as far as im concerned I stay away, and the WF. I have always bl manually and my bl plans have been meticulously written out in 200 page notebooks, along with a day by day plan of what is happening on each day. I think i'm ready to move across and try MS after reading the great discussion on the WF, so thanks everyone for the comments and feedback from both sides of the "fence".
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  • Profile picture of the author aeroturner
    Senuke is always best from my experience !! As because i dont have much knowledge on magic submitter..senuke offers me all the work easily !!
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Here's the thing with that though: updates. Alex is constantly updating the sites, database, and the way MS works. With the Incansoft bots, updates are infrequent and quite slow. So if that is a priority, MS would be the better choice, even at the higher cost.
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    • Profile picture of the author traderbenji
      Alex and MS certainly has a raving fan in you, which is a good thing I think.

      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Here's the thing with that though: updates. Alex is constantly updating the sites, database, and the way MS works. With the Incansoft bots, updates are infrequent and quite slow. So if that is a priority, MS would be the better choice, even at the higher cost.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Well, it works and works well. Alex is ALWAYS improving it too. Within the next week or so, he's updating the software again to include a reporting tool so that we can show clients what is happening with MS.
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  • Profile picture of the author jivens
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    magic submitter because you can add your own sites!
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  • Profile picture of the author warjun
    Magic Submitter have proxy integration, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    yes it does warjun.
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  • Profile picture of the author warjun
    I just try 4.95USD for Magic Submitter...if ever I do not want to continue, how to cancel the subscription?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Did you actually try it out for the full month? What were you expecting from it?
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  • Profile picture of the author warjun
    if ever I do not want to continue...
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  • Profile picture of the author warjun
    can I upload my own list of links to bookmark in Magic submitter?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Yes. Look here's an idea: go to magicsubmitter.com and watch the tutorials there. Just do one a day, and you'll find that you're able to use MS to its full potential very quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author warjun
    if ever I do not want to continue, how to cancel the subscription of MAGIC SUBMITTER ?
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Elite Article Marketing Tools is your best bet for that. It depends on whether or not you went through 2 Checkout or Paypal. In the case of paypal, you'd just cancel the subscription through your dashboard. In the case of 2 Checkout, you'd email them. Either way, give the program its due first and try it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
    how come someone get the lifetime licenses right now? pls advise.
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    • Profile picture of the author traderbenji
      Well I went for the trial and I think I have been converted to a MS fanboy. Although I haven't gotten through all the videos yet, I am impressed. Cheers all
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Banks
    Elite Marketing Tools is pretty good I have to admit.
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  • Profile picture of the author AToZ
    Magic submitter is the worst, most poorly made program I've ever used.
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    • Profile picture of the author traderbenji
      Originally Posted by AToZ View Post

      Magic submitter is the worst, most poorly made program I've ever used.

      Really, what do you mean?
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  • Profile picture of the author CopywritingKing
    Don't like magic submitter either. Not my cup of programming tea.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Atoz, copywritingking, what do you mean?
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  • Profile picture of the author boosters
    Is magic submitter allow death by captcha ?
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    • Profile picture of the author njaad
      Originally Posted by boosters View Post

      Is magic submitter allow death by captcha ?
      Yes. Also bypasscaptcha and imagetyperz.
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  • Profile picture of the author njaad
    I really like magic submitter. It's easy to use, frequently updated, and support is good. I've used several of these tools, and MS is the one I actually use on a regular basis. Account creation and submission works very well, with a good success rate.

    Anyhow, I would get the trial for senuke and MS and check them both out.
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    I have been using MS from the past few days and to say that I am loving it would be an understatement. It is absolutely fabulous piece of software and I have been creating all sorts of crazy campaigns and running them one by one. My captcha credits are being eaten away in a hurry.

    By the way, I have not tested the add sites feature of MS. I would love to do so but am afraid if any coding or such is required to add? What kind of web 2.0 sites can I add? Is it a lengthy procedure to teach the software to register and post to these sites? I can understand adding wordpress blogs can be easy as it requires same mechanism, but am not sure about adding new web 2.0 sites - how will the software post to them successfully unless some coding is done from our side?
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  • Profile picture of the author amuro
    Neither one. Both require recurring fees for you to use frequently.

    Prefer Incansoft tools and Sentinel Bot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charanjit
    just something I have noticed, when doing account creation I have a higher success rate when I am not behind a proxy, what I do to create accounts, disable proxy settings, create accounts, reset modem/router, check to see if ip address has changed (this works only if you have a non static ip address/ in the UK) repeat. created 10 accounts using this method with a very high success rate. just testing the posting features
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    • Profile picture of the author Tengalon
      Originally Posted by Charanjit View Post

      just something I have noticed, when doing account creation I have a higher success rate when I am not behind a proxy, what I do to create accounts, disable proxy settings, create accounts, reset modem/router, check to see if ip address has changed (this works only if you have a non static ip address/ in the UK) repeat. created 10 accounts using this method with a very high success rate. just testing the posting features
      Funny you should say that. Only last week I was about to change my broadband provider because my IP keeps changing more often and faster than I can keep up with...and in the middle of a run. Somehow it occured to me that this is actually better than private proxies for free. Now I am never changing my broadband supplier as far as it keeps changing my IP address faster than I can drop a hat!
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  • Profile picture of the author joseph207
    I am searching for a completely automatic or semi-automatic software's for my online blog, I am a blogger with least 4 posts a day and don't have room to do all of connecting operation physically. So surely needed to get help of auto bots to perform jobs without getting blacklisted.

    As i realize that it is difficult to accomplish all together from a single software, so can go different makes.

    Anybody can help please?

    Post threads to Blogger Communities like Triberr, Dosplash etc etc
    Posting to Blog search sites and reader sites like bloglovin, technocrati etc etc
    Posting blogs to various RSS directories
    Posting photos to various photo-sharing sites,
    Presentation submission to presentation sharing sites like slide share etc etc
    Video submission software for multiple platforms youtube, vimeo etc etc
    Search and advise Guest posts, question and answer sites and Commenting on niche
    Directory and Article submission
    Bookmarking on various sites
    Effective Press release distribution
    Social media posting with automation up to 48 hours minimum
    Any suitable plugins to perform above operations for wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    I use GSA Search Engine Ranker. I run it on a Virtual Private Server (VPS) so I don't use up resources on my local computer,plus with a VPS I can run my GSA campaigns 24/7.
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