My Millionaire Mentor 2011 by Michael Cheney

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He often delivered well in the past, with some high $$ stuff. Has anybody looked at this cheapie ?

If I recall how he works, this $37 good deal probably needs a $500 upsell and monthly subscription to make it work.
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  • Profile picture of the author aciddropkid
    Yes, the 'Cash Cannons' have been 'fired' - and been reincarnated as 'Cash Catchers' That's what it looks like! That said, you don't need so much ammo this time ($37.00). You needed to 'shell' out $1997.00 in Oct 2008. It makes the world go round!
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    • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
      Originally Posted by aciddropkid View Post

      Yes, the 'Cash Cannons' have been 'fired' - and been reincarnated as 'Cash Catchers' That's what it looks like! That said, you don't need so much ammo this time ($37.00). You needed to 'shell' out $1997.00 in Oct 2008. It makes the world go round!
      Just found a thing in my inbox:
      • You get 50% of the $37 frontend
      • You get 50% of the $497 upsell
      • You get 50% of the $297 downsell
      I guess the $37 sale is a bit like the loss leader in the supermarket get you in the door and then start making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author aaron_nimocks
    Wow. Just a bunch of crap if you ask me.

    People need to stop feeding these guys money.
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    • Profile picture of the author aciddropkid
      I bought into what I believe (going by what he says in his video) was the original version of of Michael Cheney's 'My Millionaire Mentor 2011'. It was called something like 'The Golden Thread'. It was NOT a scam - believe me! I was an absolute beginner at the time and I learned so much from it that it was worth every penny of its $1,997.00. I'm still motivated by the contents of that package.

      As for the upsells, downsells, or whatever - that's pure IM. It's what a helluva lot of us in the IM business train to do, and expect to do - as efficiently as we can. I see nothing wrong with that in principle. On the other hand, though Michael Cheney does it very efficiently; he does it, in my view, with less personal warmth that he once did.

      When Michael launched the Golden Thread thing (late 2008) it propelled him into the 'guru' set (although he'd had some success before that with the likes of 'Adsense Videos', and so on; it was the Golden Thread that made him.) In those days he was more personable and came across as empathetic. I think he's less so these days. He may have slipped into what I call the 'fish-in-a-barrel' syndrome - but maybe that's just me.
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    • Profile picture of the author ReachOneMedia
      Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks View Post

      Wow. Just a bunch of crap if you ask me.

      People need to stop feeding these guys money.
      Well... I'll think about that next time I came across one of your own product!

      Remember that we are a community here.... and these guys are the one who dare getting in front in the camera to sell out their "****"

      In my book that deserve at least some respect

      I guess some time envy bring the worst in people...

      A response to my comment is NOT necessary
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      • Profile picture of the author aaron_nimocks
        Originally Posted by ReachOneMedia View Post

        Well... I'll think about that next time I came across one of your own product!

        Remember that we are a community here.... and these guys are the one who dare getting in front in the camera to sell out their "****"

        In my book that deserve at least some respect

        I guess some time envy bring the worst in people...

        A response to my comment is NOT necessary
        Don't worry you will never see me try to sell some crap.

        I understand it is a community but these guys are ripping people off using sales pitches and not delivering. That part of it I will never be involved in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary Simpson
      Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks View Post

      Wow. Just a bunch of crap if you ask me.

      People need to stop feeding these guys money.
      Aaron,

      Just wondering if you actually bought this product. If not, what are you basing your opinion on?

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author hady76
        I bought Cheney's full package thru a wewbinar $297. Have yet to go thru it in more detail
        but can see some good gold in it.
        2 items I am not at all happy with so be aware of these if anyone is getting the upsells.

        1- is affiliateX web sites. Not impressed with this at all, and after a week wanting the simple login detail to its member area which i didnt get, and fix the website, no reply still.
        Am getting close to claiming refund from clickbank on this.

        2- is the ph call supposedly with Cheney or 2 of his staff, reads like this will be a personal 30 min discussion worth $xxx on making the most from Millionaire Mentor and questions may have.
        Well this is another of those blasted pressurized sales calls to spend another heap $$ on a 12 month coaching program. Make out they are calling from Michael Cheney's office, [from Bangkok yeah right. ] Anyone who has had these calls can pick the patter pattern within 2 minutes and when you start asking questions the caller will often get very snarky.

        This is my experience so far, main part MM package is very good, let down somewhat with the above 2, and from past experience I didnt think Cheney would have included either of these two.
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          Oh yea! Well what about that Magic Bullet SYSTEM 2.0 yo! MUAHAHA!

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          Well I stand on what I said : There is no Magic Bullet System apart from in name only....

          What happens is this: Your sucked in by the promise of huge pay days so, for a few dollars you jump in with both feet...

          So what is the next step?

          It goes like this:

          You have had your mind totally dominated by another Guru...

          You stopped thinking for yourself...

          You start to impliment what you have been brain washed in to beleiving...

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          It's simple, you must find what people are looking for such as, a physical product, information or even software...

          Even you have all the tools available at your fingers, get the basics wrong and your most certainly flogging a dead horse...

          Ask yourself this question:

          Are any of these courses going to tell you what you should be promoting?

          My Millionaire Mentor 2011 by Michael Cheney is no exception same as the Magic Bullet System...or any other new mouse trap...

          Software can definately save time but, it can't tell you what you should be concentrating on...

          The input has to come from inside your own head based on educated and researched ideas...

          You could spend 50 bucks on WSO's and learn much more!

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        • Profile picture of the author clarethwaites
          Hey I bought this program and just going through it now. so far Ive seen a bunch of really long winded videos that to me were just waffle, and not had the 30 min phone call I was promised. however, seemed an interesting product so will write more if/when there is something of interest to say. :-)

          2- is the ph call supposedly with Cheney or 2 of his staff, reads like this will be a personal 30 min discussion worth $xxx on making the most from Millionaire Mentor and questions may have.
          Well this is another of those blasted pressurized sales calls to spend another heap $$ on a 12 month coaching program. Make out they are calling from Michael Cheney's office, [from Bangkok yeah right. ] Anyone who has had these calls can pick the patter pattern within 2 minutes and when you start asking questions the caller will often get very snarky.

          This is my experience so far, main part MM package is very good, let down somewhat with the above 2, and from past experience I didnt think Cheney would have included either of these two.[/QUOTE]
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          • Ok I have not purchased the $37 / $27 package. I did do a direct enquiry about the program, and spoke with a salesman about the advanced coaching. Yeah it was a sales call, but it was professional and definitely not some call center from bangkok. The advanced coaching is a 1 on 1 mentoring program. It is not cheap, but if you expect to solve all of your internet marketing worries with a $37 product then you need a wake up call.

            Here is the deal for the advanced mentoring program.

            Original price: $6999
            Sale: $3999

            What you get (from my understanding)

            Unlimited 1/2 hour phone calls with your coach. ( I forget if it is 1 or two per week)
            The coach helps you put an action plan together that is tailored just for you.
            Access to twice a month webinars
            Access to three seminar events

            My first response was ouch high price tag. I am not one to buy products and have rarely done so, until lately I found some average wso's that were dirt cheap. I also joined two other awesome products that were dirt cheap but fully worth every penny (and much more). With one of these programs I feel I got really lucky. It was $97 (the most I have ever spent on an information product). They over delivered in a big way and it was just what I needed. But thats another story, back to Michael Cheney.

            A mentoring program like this could be just what it takes to expand your horizons and do what it takes to succeed. This is so much more valuable than an info product. I am very interested, but scared of that price tag.

            I know how valuable coaching can be because I have had 4 hours of coaching from a local business person and it makes a big difference. They are looking from the outside in and offer perspective (something we loose in our bubble). You are also accountable. They give you homework and your are expected to follow through.

            I have been racking my mind about signing up for Michael's coaching for a day and a half. I see the value and it might be just what I need to take my business to the next level. Currently I earn about $750 per month online. I also make money from selling seo services to local business. I Just started my own business this year and I am surviving. I can't complain. I have just started out with that and I am doing OK and can see that I will be doing better as time goes on.

            It is scary though. But it should be scary when you venture into things that you have never done before. Some days I am excited and loving it all and other days I am freaking out wondering if the sky is going to fall.

            From speaking with other business people I know that eventually the fear goes away and then you experience just the excitement. I am looking forward to getting to that point.

            Anyhow this has been really long winded but this is how I look at the expensive coaching. If $4000 seems like a lot to you for a valuable service then you probably need this service more than anything. $4000 should not seem like a lot. $4000 should be a drop in the bucket. It isn't for me. For me spending $4000 is scary. But then again I am scared to spend money on an expensive suit. Some guys spend $3,000 on a suit and a $100 bucks on their shirts. Do you think they worry about that? Of course not because they have a completely different mindset. Spending $4000 on coaching provides the benefits of the coaching plus meeting like minded people at the seminars and it also changes your mindset.

            I do have a question though; has anyone gone through this mentoring? I would absolutely love to hear your opinions.


            Originally Posted by clarethwaites View Post

            Hey I bought this program and just going through it now. so far Ive seen a bunch of really long winded videos that to me were just waffle, and not had the 30 min phone call I was promised. however, seemed an interesting product so will write more if/when there is something of interest to say. :-)

            2- is the ph call supposedly with Cheney or 2 of his staff, reads like this will be a personal 30 min discussion worth on making the most from Millionaire Mentor and questions may have.
            Well this is another of those blasted pressurized sales calls to spend another heap $$ on a 12 month coaching program. Make out they are calling from Michael Cheney's office, [from Bangkok yeah right. ] Anyone who has had these calls can pick the patter pattern within 2 minutes and when you start asking questions the caller will often get very snarky.

            This is my experience so far, main part MM package is very good, let down somewhat with the above 2, and from past experience I didnt think Cheney would have included either of these two.
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  • Profile picture of the author mish_h
    I normally steer clear of these $37 products but I got an email from a respected guru - is he going the way of making a quick buck from his list? I hate these blind sales pages where you have no idea of what you are purchasing and then when you have paid for the first part you are bombarded with upsells - what? you bought our product and now you want the url of where to access it - well that will be another $99 and so on.

    So I am still wary. Has anyone actually bought this and can you share what it actually is please? Is it outdated rehashed material or is there some value in the $37 part - or is it just another build a wordpress blog, write articles, submit RSS feeds etc etc - Thanks for any feedback

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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      I just did a review of this one on our blog...and I think that some will be pleasantly surprised. many of the products that we've reviewed lately, I would honestly say are borderline scams! I don't think this one falls into that category at all, so at least it looks like Michael Cheney has some integrity where it seems many others don't.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bcrewse1
        I am a former Michael Cheney student and can tell you I got every pennies worth of training that I paid for. Customer service and follow up was exceptional as well. As for his latest course it does look like a much cheaper version of the Golden Thread product although from the looks of the upsells could be pricey in the end. All in all Michael is an expert marketer and if you listen and apply what he teaches you will make money. He doesn't teach " push a button, make a billion" BS that is flying all over the net these days. Everything I've learned from him goes way beyond theory and supposition. I can also say that if at anytime you are not happy with the training you purchase from him you will get a full, no questions asked refund. No, I am not an affiliate or in any way associated with selling his products. Just my point of view from what I have experienced.

        Barry
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        • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
          I have actually gone through the course materials already. I travelled to London a couple of times on the train recently ( 2.5 hours each way ) and downloaded all the wealth audio sessions onto my mp3 player to make the journey more interesting and so I could get my 'internet marketing fix' at the same time. Two birds with one stone and all that jazz.

          I didn't take a notepad with me, all I had was a book with some 'notes' pages in the back. From one audio session alone I'd written out over 4 pages of notes. The information in this course is solid actionable content that IMHO is a snip at $37, particularly if you like listening to audio because they are all lengthy ( roughly 40 mins to 1 hour ish ) and enjoyable.

          There are also videos, mind maps, transcripts and process charts on 'the inside'. It's all laid out in a progressive modular format. Thumbs up.
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      • Profile picture of the author wrays
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        I just did a review of this one on our blog...and I think that some will be pleasantly surprised. many of the products that we've reviewed lately, I would honestly say are borderline scams! I don't think this one falls into that category at all, so at least it looks like Michael Cheney has some integrity where it seems many others don't.
        Hi Jeremy,

        Is this course suitable for experienced marketer? Or is it more for the beginners?

        If I buy, I will SKIP all the upsells.... I NEVER buy upsells!

        Is the $37 offer worth buying or is it just some basic stuffs?
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          • Profile picture of the author RB
            I understand there are many variables which determine the success one has with any IM program. I understand what may have worked for the author of any program, may not work for one who buys the program - that is part of what disclaimers are for.

            After a buyer rings all the bells and blows all the whistles that are promoted by any internet marketer, standard procedure seems to be a disappearing act performed by the internet marketer.

            Ok, internet marketers have already ranted on a couple sales copy success stories, but when you market to a list of 100,000 what is the impact - what is the result? Does this program show even a 1% success rate for those of 100,000 prospects who actually bought? If only 1% bought (1000) and only 1% are successful, well that's only 100 out of 100,000. I have better odds on the lottery.

            And any reviewers (aka promoters) of the program make no mention of this either. They don't take advantage of the success, if it really exists, to those they review to. Everyone drops the ball, takes the money and runs life a thief across the neighbors yard. They got all they can and disappear, accepting that some didn't buy and those who did probably failed.

            Internet marketers seem to forget about the 80-20 rule. Instead, they disappear for a couple years and re-market. The fact is, the 80-20 rule can be applied to valuable "no buys" as well IF you have successful results which will overcome their objections. They didn't buy for a reason and it's your job to overcome that objection. Go back to them with your proof instead of looking for another sucker.

            This leads me to believe that this type of program is not useful to the prospect. If it were, I would be out there promoting the scale of it's effectiveness and overcoming the objections of all the "no buys" on the list - you know, the "other" 999,900.

            But, it seems preferable to internet marketers to just disappear for a while, return and rehash old crap that must not have worked, to a new set of prospects while forgetting about the 80-20 rule that should be applied to prospects (lists) as well as existing customers.

            I don't understand why the results of the campaign are not reviewed by the "unbiased" reviewers. I want to know what the results are for those who bought into the program you review.

            I don't care about your personal results, I want to know about your buyers' results, those who were successful, or not, with your program.

            That is a sales weapon. That is where the real proof is.

            And my dollar stays in my pocket until I see it.
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            • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
              Did you buy the program? Have you followed the teachings?

              Where do you get your statistics from?

              There are countless good programs/courses/ebooks out there that layout a step-by-step process that WILL make you a profit if you follow them through. Problem is, many purchasers want the "dream" but are not willing to put in the sweat equity to make it happen, EVEN when it is handed to them.

              Majority of people who buy workout programs such as P90X do not end up getting results, why? Because they don't want to put in the effort to actually follow through with the whole program, they do it for a few days or even a couple of weeks, and then say, meh, that's enough, this is too hard.

              IM is just the same. People "may" put in the effort for a few weeks at most, but the majority simply quit and go on to the next shiny, they think money-for-no-effort product and settle back into their mediocre life of mediocre results much of which is due to mediocre effort.

              Michael has put out a quality product (which I am not promoting), which has garnered results for those who actually follow what he is teaching. He hasn't disappeared, does have good support and isn't selling a "not ready for prime-time product" that many of the swindlers have been selling.

              To all of you who are going to buy this product, or any other product....

              BE PREPARED TO WORK.

              If you want Extraordinary Results, you have to put in Extraordinary Effort.

              James

              Originally Posted by RB View Post

              I understand there are many variables which determine the success one has with any IM program. I understand what may have worked for the author of any program, may not work for one who buys the program - that is part of what disclaimers are for.

              After a buyer rings all the bells and blows all the whistles that are promoted by any internet marketer, standard procedure seems to be a disappearing act performed by the internet marketer.

              Ok, internet marketers have already ranted on a couple sales copy success stories, but when you market to a list of 100,000 what is the impact - what is the result? Does this program show even a 1% success rate for those of 100,000 prospects who actually bought? If only 1% bought (1000) and only 1% are successful, well that's only 100 out of 100,000. I have better odds on the lottery.

              And any reviewers (aka promoters) of the program make no mention of this either. They don't take advantage of the success, if it really exists, to those they review to. Everyone drops the ball, takes the money and runs life a thief across the neighbors yard. They got all they can and disappear, accepting that some didn't buy and those who did probably failed.

              Internet marketers seem to forget about the 80-20 rule. Instead, they disappear for a couple years and re-market. The fact is, the 80-20 rule can be applied to valuable "no buys" as well IF you have successful results which will overcome their objections. They didn't buy for a reason and it's your job to overcome that objection. Go back to them with your proof instead of looking for another sucker.

              This leads me to believe that this type of program is not useful to the prospect. If it were, I would be out there promoting the scale of it's effectiveness and overcoming the objections of all the "no buys" on the list - you know, the "other" 999,900.

              But, it seems preferable to internet marketers to just disappear for a while, return and rehash old crap that must not have worked, to a new set of prospects while forgetting about the 80-20 rule that should be applied to prospects (lists) as well as existing customers.

              I don't understand why the results of the campaign are not reviewed by the "unbiased" reviewers. I want to know what the results are for those who bought into the program you review.

              I don't care about your personal results, I want to know about your buyers' results, those who were successful, or not, with your program.

              That is a sales weapon. That is where the real proof is.

              And my dollar stays in my pocket until I see it.
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              • Profile picture of the author RB
                James, I am not trying to bash Michael Chaney - my questions and thoughts just came to light here as I was enticed by his sales copy.

                I mean no harm to him, that is why I did not use his name. My point is - let's get empirical! If this or any other program is so good, let's see how good by the results of others, meaning those who bought it and either failed or succeeded. Let's not dwell on sales copy that presents only Michael's, results, or those of a relatively few others.

                If it's so successful, let's see the data. That's all. How many people successfully implemented the system compared to those who tried.

                I agree with you, sweat equity is the biggest factor in success. Maybe I should have just asked Michael - of your list of 100K, how many bought and how many failed of those. I don't want to have to just assume that his numbers, as a skilled internet marketer, will be pertinent to me. And that is who he is selling to - me, not you.

                You miss the biggest of my points. The money is in the list, as they say. If that is the case, why not go back to the list of no buys and provide the reason to buy by listing results of previous buyers instead of just disappearing after the initial launch? Why not report the results of the first blast to the 100K list?

                While it may have been successful for him in terms of income, was it the same for how many of those who purchased - not just those enumerated in sales copy.

                James, I don't have anything against Michael. I'm just making observations and asking questions that could result in more sales for him if indeed his program works.

                Until then, my money stays in my pocket.

                RB
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                • Profile picture of the author RB
                  Matter of fact James, I been looking over reviews of products as I write. None of them, yours comments included, offer any type of dollar numbers of success. How much did you earn from putting in the sweat equity for Michael's program.

                  I'm tired of pansy recommendations that do nothing more than gloat without enumeration.

                  What is your story? If you have made riches, let's hear it in dollars and cents, skip the blind faith part.
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                • Profile picture of the author jrafique
                  Originally Posted by RB View Post

                  James, I am not trying to bash Michael Chaney - my questions and thoughts just came to light here as I was enticed by his sales copy.

                  I mean no harm to him, that is why I did not use his name. My point is - let's get empirical! If this or any other program is so good, let's see how good by the results of others, meaning those who bought it and either failed or succeeded. Let's not dwell on sales copy that presents only Michael's, results, or those of a relatively few others.

                  If it's so successful, let's see the data. That's all. How many people successfully implemented the system compared to those who tried.

                  I agree with you, sweat equity is the biggest factor in success. Maybe I should have just asked Michael - of your list of 100K, how many bought and how many failed of those. I don't want to have to just assume that his numbers, as a skilled internet marketer, will be pertinent to me. And that is who he is selling to - me, not you.

                  You miss the biggest of my points. The money is in the list, as they say. If that is the case, why not go back to the list of no buys and provide the reason to buy by listing results of previous buyers instead of just disappearing after the initial launch? Why not report the results of the first blast to the 100K list?

                  While it may have been successful for him in terms of income, was it the same for how many of those who purchased - not just those enumerated in sales copy.

                  James, I don't have anything against Michael. I'm just making observations and asking questions that could result in more sales for him if indeed his program works.

                  Until then, my money stays in my pocket.

                  RB
                  Your point is valid but this is not how things works here. An internet marketer can only teach and show the right path for success but he is not a school teacher that if all of the students fails, the Dean will ask him why they failed or parents will come to him and ask for the reason.

                  After giving all the training material to the student it is not the duty of Internet Marketer to track the results of his students. If he/she do this its good but if he/she track all of the student he will be wasting the time and you know time is money. This can be possible with a private student who is paying a good amount of dollar each month and he will certainly give him time if he think the time he is giving to the student is worth the dollar amount he/she is paying to him.

                  I will give you an example here. I daily receive a lot of request of private coaching but what they want to pay is less than $1k or $2k to personally teach them and work with them for some months. Its certainly not feasible for me to stick with them because I can earn several times more in the time that I may give them.

                  Hope you got the point.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Netcat
                    I received this e-mail from a warrior whom I have received excellent value from in the past. I tend to believe what he says and I know that he will not risk his reputation by promoting BS. Here is a part of the e-mail:
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                    But the last 12 products I have bought were terrible. Not this one though.

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                    So, maybe this will help those who are looking for $$$ answers. Looks like it is a program worth getting.
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                  • Profile picture of the author mistermint
                    I wanted to promote this based on Michaels's reputation however, my take on all of the IM courses out there is simple:

                    What works today or worked yesterday may well not work tomorrow...

                    I know we should not rely on Google as a stand alone traffic source and there are hundreds if not thousands of other traffic methods available.

                    My biggest problem with a lot of so called Guru's is this:

                    By the time they have figured out another line of income from say for example: mobile marketing, facebook or the local market myth..they are all relying on the would be marketer who may have lost his or her job...to be enticed by the written promise of extreme wealth (with the disclaimer at the bottom of the page) to buy the old hat methods...

                    There is no magic bullet available...all you will do is go around in circles from one course to the next it's that simple..So, save yourself a lot of bother and nail one foot to the floor...

                    Put it like this: You can't be expert in every aspect of IM, you will get a little knowledge on each aspect of IM from each course you buy...but, do you really want to be a jack of all trades master of none?

                    I've said this before and take this opportunity to repeat it: Buying all those IM course's will cause you to spend money and not make money...

                    Just look at the variables:

                    Does your site look the part?
                    Does your sites topic fulfill a need? i.e. supply and demand.
                    Is it SEO'd for organic traffic?
                    Do you know from where the traffic is coming?
                    Do you know how to drive traffic?

                    The list is endless and even if you get most of it right your still facing an up hill struggle...with plenty of hard work to do...and competetitors...

                    Getting back on track...Michael may be a super marketer with a 100K list and pals with 250K lists but, for 37 bucks there is no way in this world you will come anywhere close to making big money in a short space of time...

                    Sorry for the rant
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                      Originally Posted by mistermint View Post


                      There is no magic bullet available...
                      Oh yea! Well what about that Magic Bullet SYSTEM 2.0 yo! MUAHAHA!

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                • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
                  My point is this: You can't force people to take action on the products they purchase from you, whether it be a workout product/program.

                  Think of gyms, people sign-up all the time for yearly plans to the tune of a few hundred dollars, or worse stay on monthly plans for years and literally step in the gym a total of 5 times. A good majority of gyms have a VERY high failure to get fit rate for their members. Is that the gym's fault for them not showing up?

                  People do this same thing with hosting, they buy it, get a domain (or multiple domains for ideas they have), do not pursue it, never put up a site, or put one up and don't touch it. Is it the hosting companies fault or their lack of a website or lack of use of the service?

                  Now with alot of these IM products, I agree with you, they are ridiculous on many levels when it comes to income claims and outright deceitful in some cases regarding what needs to be done to come to that level of income.

                  However, products like Michael's and a few other marketers will make you profit if you follow their system. Any IM product worth what it is charging will encourage you to build a list, because that is a big part of having a profitable online business, and this product does say that.

                  Have I made a profit online? Absolutely. Is it because I followed the teachings to the letter in any single one of the many courses I purchased over the years? Absolutely not.

                  You see, I was that person who didn't take action, for a VERY long time. I always figured I wanted to learn more, to get it right from the start, etc..... and whatever other excuse I could find. I've purchased courses that guaranteed 100/200/300/500/1000/10000/100000 a month if I just followed the system, put in the work....but I didn't.

                  In the end, there came a point where I looked in the mirror and said to myself, "WTF are you doing? You have accumulated all this knowledge and you are not using it."

                  So after some soul searching I took action, with all the knowledge and now things are going very well.

                  Are my previous failures at action due to the product owners lack of a quality product that actually works? Are they due to the lack of the product owner forcing me to get it done?

                  No.

                  It was on me. It has always been on me.

                  There are scam products, there are crap products, there are products that are trying to game the various systems available, but the truth is products like Michael's will teach you the real basics of making money online: building a list, promoting quality products, creating quality products and taking action. (Personally, I would add that you should really learn how to write copy properly. It is a valuable skill to have.)

                  I understand that there are many people like you who are fed up with the lack of people who step forward to show that, "Hey, I put in the leg work, I did what he said, and it worked. I make $X,XXX.XX monthly now because of this." But the truth of the matter is, there is nothing Michael or any other product owner can do about that. NOTHING. You can ask people to out themselves, you can beg people to do it, but truth is, many who succeed do not want to out themselves. On top of that, add the people who have purchased from Michael more than once in the past, liked his product, but just left it on their hd never to look at it again or take action. Off to the next movie, next job, next excuse.

                  Want to do something different for yourself RB?

                  Buy a product you believe may be reputable. Follow through on exactly what they are saying for 6 months. Then come back here, review it, give your results. I suggest going with an established veteran in the game like Marlon Sanders or someone similar.

                  James

                  Originally Posted by RB View Post

                  You miss the biggest of my points. The money is in the list, as they say. If that is the case, why not go back to the list of no buys and provide the reason to buy by listing results of previous buyers instead of just disappearing after the initial launch? Why not report the results of the first blast to the 100K list?

                  RB
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by wrays View Post

          Hi Jeremy,

          Is this course suitable for experienced marketer? Or is it more for the beginners?

          If I buy, I will SKIP all the upsells.... I NEVER buy upsells!

          Is the $37 offer worth buying or is it just some basic stuffs?
          I would say that the product is probably more geared towards ADVANCED marketers. I listened to almost everything there and the information was GOOD, but for the beginning it's lacking "do this" "do that" etc...but, if you are one of those people that likes to HEAR how someone who has been successful thinks, and how he does things...you would probably really like this course.

          Just don't expect step by step directions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Wightley
      The Micheal Cheney millionaire course is actually quite good I purchased it and what it's all about is around 40 video's on how to create your own product, set it up and sell it. Not to bad for the cheap price tag
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  • Profile picture of the author lefty359
    Nobody has said what the course is actually about. I haven't watched the sales video. Prev CB vids have worn me out.
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  • Profile picture of the author officer_iron
    Since it's his product, I'm willing to give it a try. Who knows?
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    • Profile picture of the author sanhal
      In the video on the sales page he says it is a never seen before system.

      Is this really true? If it's a re-hashed version of a previous product how can it truly be a never seen before system?

      Can anyone who has bought it shed some light on this?

      Sandy
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      • Profile picture of the author bejon
        Originally Posted by sanhal View Post

        In the video on the sales page he says it is a never seen before system.

        Is this really true? If it's a re-hashed version of a previous product how can it truly be a never seen before system?

        Can anyone who has bought it shed some light on this?

        Sandy
        As I tried to show in the screenvideo of what is inside. (Only seen from the headlines - not yet read the "book"). I understand it is some basics, plus some new methods, including ...from the headline..."mentoring", which means more step by step, more questions answered, coaching, ..
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        • Profile picture of the author All Night Cafe
          I just got a copy. I've bought from Michael in the past.

          So I want to see his new info. Will be studing it
          this weekend.
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        • Profile picture of the author brendan301
          what is this product about? product creation? affiliate marketing? cpa marketing? article marketing? what is it teaching you to do?
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          • Profile picture of the author tgeo
            Would you sell a training course for $37 that enables your buyers to make $950K in 7 days as Cheney says in the video?

            Nuff said.

            TP
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  • Profile picture of the author Hopp
    It is great to hear some positive feed back on this. I am definitely going to take a closer look. Does anyone have any insight into the value of the upsell/downsell?
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  • Profile picture of the author nandi
    Originally Posted by bejon View Post

    For those interested I tried to write down all the sale steps and even include a screenvideo for a short view of what is "inside". I hope I will not be considered "unethical" by showing so much from his process and inside. (In that way pls tell me.)
    Thanks for that review its a glimpse of what to expect. I hate those up and down sells!
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  • Profile picture of the author zigato
    I bought the course and look forward to studying it this weekend.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    if you are one of those people that likes to HEAR how someone who has been successful thinks, and how he does things...you would probably really like this course.
    Is this course in audio... No video?

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

      Is this course in audio... No video?

      James
      The only videos that I saw were "intro" videos.

      In each module, you got

      - An intro video that was usually about 30 seconds
      - An audio file that sounded like it was a recorded mastermind session or something like that
      - A transcript of the audio
      - A mind map

      I'm personally not a big "mindset" person, where hearing how and what someone thinks about something changes my perspective, but I know that there are quite a few people out there that are, and to me anyway, that is who this course is geared towards.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Buckley
    so is the product complete or do they need video? Im confused :S
    was actually contemplating buying this
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    • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
      Originally Posted by The16yearold View Post

      so is the product complete or do they need video? Im confused :S
      was actually contemplating buying this

      The product is complete.

      It consists of an audio, & a transcript of the audio.

      In my opinion that is much better. The transcript allows you to go back and review things. A video presentation forces you to try to find the spot where the piece of information you are looking for is or listen to the whole thing for 30 seconds of good information.
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    • Profile picture of the author RB
      James you make many straight on points. I agree with you on most counts and lean towards you on others.

      Especially agree with your point "it's all on me". I have always put myself in a similar "never take action" stance. Until now. I am concentrating on one course of action - finally. I'm a junkie and know it, but I know I can free myself from that part of it.

      As for you, congratulations. I'm proud of you and your accomplishments. I wish you much more success in the future.

      As for me, I will report back when I complete my course of action. I have set my goals - and I will not start another course of action until I successfully complete this one.

      As for marketers, this was just my observation on what I thought might be missed opportunities for everyone. What if those who said no, would say yes the next time.

      Best wishes to all, I meant no ill intent.

      RB
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      • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
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        Originally Posted by RB View Post

        James you make many straight on points. I agree with you on most counts and lean towards you on others.

        Especially agree with your point "it's all on me". I have always put myself in a similar "never take action" stance. Until now. I am concentrating on one course of action - finally. I'm a junkie and know it, but I know I can free myself from that part of it.

        As for you, congratulations. I'm proud of you and your accomplishments. I wish you much more success in the future.

        As for me, I will report back when I complete my course of action. I have set my goals - and I will not start another course of action until I successfully complete this one.

        As for marketers, this was just my observation on what I thought might be missed opportunities for everyone. What if those who said no, would say yes the next time.

        Best wishes to all, I meant no ill intent.

        RB
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        • Profile picture of the author Cyril Ashby
          It's incredulous the number of people who won't or are too tired to do their own research. If they did they would learn all that needs to be known to make an informed decision on both Michael Cheney and his teaching and purchase Millionaire Mentor. There's even a surprise payment option if you're smart enough!

          I have been a long suffering student of opportunity seeking, my choice and I have learned a huge amount without actually getting started, and I'm retired.

          One shouldn't rely on discussion in forums as the sole means of discerning training programs and teaching on the internet. There are tons of resources out there waiting to be used. And if they don't work for you once purchased use the guarantee. Our experiences are bound to be different. That's life, move on.

          That said I have had two occasions to use the help desk since joining Millionaire Mentors on Saturday 29 January. I have had unparalleled service and response, which in my limited experience is not the norm. And that was on the weekend.

          Millionaire Mentors (and I'm getting stuck into the material) gets a huge thumbs up from me. In colloquial internet speak - it's the price of a daily Starbucks for a week. Or where I live, in Wanaka, New Zealand we don't have Starbucks so I guess it's five days of our more expensive coffee.

          And by the by - go ahead and Google Wanaka!
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  • Profile picture of the author HiAbby
    This is actually a really good system for the right person. It's a good guide if you're just getting started. It's nice to have something to follow.

    There area a lot of "professional newbies" in here that know how everything works but never take any action or make money. These types think that brand new people know all the little steps, and they don't.

    This is a greaat system for real newbies.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjd6599
      I bought the My Millionaire Mentor course the other day, and I am only half way through it, partly due to other commitments.

      It is all videos, but there are several bonus ebooks, and a few bonus courses. A lot of the stuff he talks about in the videos is stuff I already know, but he has a different way of doing it, that I never thought of.

      He also has a lot of strategies that have given me a few ah ha moments, because I never thought of them, or he has a better way.

      So far he has talked about getting your head right and being focused, creating your own product, driving traffic, building a list, and as I said I am less than half way through the course.

      I did not buy any of the upgrades, which were Not high pressure sales, and overall I am happy with this course. I think anyone will learn several things of value, no matter what your level of expertise is. I think it is a good course for a beginner, as well as a season marketer.

      You will however have to like listening to videos, because some of them are about 2 hours long, and it is just audio with no visual.

      This course has really good information in my opinion, and is definitely worth the low price tag.

      Hope this helps
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      • Profile picture of the author jerryo68
        I Have previously purchased product from Michael Cheyney and never made even my investment back. His products are great learning vehicle for newbies that is being offered with this program ( I paid 1997.00 a few years ago) now its offered in the bundle for Warriors $27.00.

        If you buy there are upsells involved if you want to go to the Elite status with everything offered for $197.00 ( I just saved you from watching the whole video). There are also other affiliate products that he recomends. So don't believe his video that there are no upsells (not true) and no monthly memberships (this is true).:rolleyes:

        If you want pure learning content then go for the $27.00 program its well worth it.

        I hope this answers some of the questions on the forum about purchasing the product. :confused:
        Best Wishes,
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      This is a greaat system for real newbies.
      Have you actually finished the course and started making money?
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  • Profile picture of the author pethanks
    This " My Millionaire Mentor 2011" sounds interesting. Thank you for sharing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cyril Ashby
      I posted a comment re Millionaire Mentor on Monday and since then I can report the following:

      I've used the help desk on several occasions and the average elapsed response time is 9 minutes. Unprecedented.

      The course material doesn't start with building a website, setting up hosting, domain name, PPC/Adwords, back-links, reviews, posting articles and all the stuff that totally confuses simple minds like mine.

      The course starts at the beginning - getting your head right and progresses logically through the various segments and steps. It builds on the previous lesson supported by the mind map and PDF transcript. And the audio and the transcript provide an excellent learning platform.

      It probably is for new comers but it's laced with pearls of wisdom and nuggets of information that will benefit anyone.

      I've had my monies worth and I'm only three lessons into the program.

      Being on the other side of 60 I thought that internet marketing in whatever form was for geeks, kids, techies, and self styled "gurus". Happily I'm being persuaded that this may not be the case.

      As with every other program or teaching the common thread is that nothing, but nothing will happen until some action happens. And this can only be achieved by me or you as an individual. At the end of the day we are responsible for making our own choices and decisions. Robust forums etc are fine but they echo the opinion of someone else. Helpful maybe but we have to discern the information for ourselves.

      If you are seeking an answer to the vexed question, how do I learn this stuff? start right here. Million Mentors is refreshingly different.and does join the dots.

      "Thoughts become things, choose the good ones". Mike Dooley - The Universe
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  • Profile picture of the author mistermint
    HiAbby:
    This is actually a really good system for the right person. It's a good guide if you're just getting started. It's nice to have something to follow.

    There area a lot of "professional newbies" in here that know how everything works but never take any action or make money. These types think that brand new people know all the little steps, and they don't.

    This is a greaat system for real newbies.
    IMO you will learn something from all the courses out there, it forms part of your IM journey, you have to pay for the knowledge...

    This being said, you should know where you want to go in the first place...

    9 out of every 10 IM's don't make any money at all...a lot give up in the early days from frustration...run out of cash or simply don't take any action stacking up information on their hard drive...

    All good fun...
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice

      IMO you will learn something from all the courses out there, it forms part of your IM journey, you have to pay for the knowledge...

      9 out of every 10 IM's don't make any money at all
      This is something I have come to realise. All these IM products seem to be "just another course". The money making part is not incuded.
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      Only positive feedbacks? I might also get that product!
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  • Profile picture of the author Supafly
    Best thing I can say about this system is that I got my refund back within 48 hours as promised.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    It's what you do with the knowledge you get that makes you money.
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  • Profile picture of the author GoldenEye
    I refunded within 24 hours......couldnt get over the upsells that I was bombarded with... I will say that the refund came within an HOUR, bravo.
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  • Profile picture of the author illumina8
    Hi Just thought I would chime in as I noticed a couple comments about people who refunded. I for one purchased the MMM at $27 and its the best value for any product I have bought in a long time in regards to the price and value it reveals.

    Michael obviously cares about helping people get started and making money in the IM business that made his dreams come true.. He was a drugged out piss head after all and now recovered he turned his life around.. and I like his human approach and way of teaching. This program (if you actually go through it) is top notch with the quality and new insider tips in all areas of product creation, jv launches, affiliate marketing for newbies, intermediate, advanced marketers..

    Thanks Michael Cheney you have a new fan indeed!

    Peace
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      I for one purchased the MMM at $27
      Where can I purchase it for $27? The link I have been sent is $37?

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Janet Matthews
        Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

        Where can I purchase it for $27? The link I have been sent is $37?

        Thanks
        Just close down your page and the $27 offer appears in a small window.

        I bought this 2 weeks ago and although I agree that Michael seems very genuine and wants to help people be successful, I am struggling to see how this course is going to help me. So far I have found it interesting but very general. No step by step instructions. A lot of "you could do this " or "you could do that"

        He tends to talk tactics and is certainly providing lots of them, which may be fine for some people but I was hoping for more step by step instructions on how to set things up. For example - I know I need a squeeze page and a thank you page but how do I create them etc

        I think I may ask for a refund as I don't think this is going to be the course for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author KhadijahChapman
    My Millionaire Mentor 2011 was not one of the best products that I have purchased, but it did have some value - overall my suggestion would be to get it for $37 - you don't need the upsells, he gives a lot of valuable information, however in my honest opinion as good as the information is.. its is really just Mike talking...

    Personally, I need more instruction, not a talk session... I get what to do... I am still considered a newbie and most of what I have been looking for in most of the products I have purchased has NOT been present... guess that means I simply need to get busy creating my own product. Or put another way to provide a real solution.... Hope this helps anyone looking to purchase this product.

    Side bar however there were some incredible bonuses being given just not sure if they are all about adding me to another list and or upsells, or just old stuff being re-hashed...However most information is still pretty good...
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  • Profile picture of the author amuro
    I did invest in Michael's My Millionaire Mentor recommended by Chris Freville via early bird access before its official launch on Jan 2011. Including all his upsells of how to make a million in 7 days and email consultation.

    While I agree and fulfiled his initial lessons of getting your mindset right and basic foundations of affiliate marketing, I did not agree with his philosophy that I should immediately go out and create a product that teaches people how to make money.

    Though I do made a few sales then, I felt that my foundation back then was not strong enough to create a product that teaches people how to make money online.

    I don't want to create a product just for the sake of making more money or leverage on Michael's brand but to really help others the same way I wanted to be helped as newbie.

    My feeling was similar to Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins. In that movie, he was asked to execute a criminal by the League Of Shadows before he could lead them to glory.

    When I told Michael that I wanted to branch out from IM and focused on other niches with the same approach I learnt from making money with IM before creating my own product, Michael was very upset with me.

    He kept insisting that IM was the best and only niche to make a killing since he made millions mostly from there. He also said that he tried other niches but with limited success.

    I don't agree and our partnership ended the same way Bruce ended his with Ra's al Ghul. That's also why I did not invest in his Millionaire Warrior Coaching program despite receiving repeated emails from John Thornhill, Dave Nicholson and Omar Martin.

    However, we still remain friends and I am part of his VIP facebook group.

    But for Mark Ling, it is different. Even thought his AffiloBlueprint is costlier than My Millionaire Mentor and Millionaire Warrior Coaching, I found Mark's internet business model and philosophy to be similar to mine.

    When Mark promises to teach you how to make money from affiliate marketing, he really teaches you how to make money from affiliate marketing.

    From A to Z.

    There was no mention of any product creation, JV partnership nor launch through the AffiloBlueprint course.

    Send my site to the review section of members only forum. Following Mark's advice, I made 6 sales, 2 of which are recurring.

    Though I see Mark as very blunt and selective in criticsing, interviewing or JV with anyone, he is really helping us the way we want to be helped.

    My point is if you want to teach people about making money as an affiliate, you should start making money as an affiliate consistently first.

    Otherwise, it is like learning how to fish but not fishing yourself.Instead you buy a fishing rod, get experts to fish for you and then teach people how to fish without actually fishing yourself.

    Am I making any sense here?

    Though I need help in internet marketing, I follow what makes sense to me, easy for me to follow and most importantly, MAKE MONEY.

    That's why I prefer Mark Ling to Michael Cheney.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave77
    Can any one link me with the cheapest and the best social media training videos on the internet with focus on all about Facebook, twitter, linkedin,myspace, etc
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  • Profile picture of the author benjio
    I would NOT touch this with a ten foot pole. I bought a program through Cheney for $2000 dollars. He "restricted" it to 500 people, so he ripped off people for a million that day!!
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  • Profile picture of the author m5smiley
    has Michael Cheney disappeared ??

    I am asking so I can learn from mistakes,
    thanks for you help.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    He seems to be keeping a low profile on the internet lately.
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