Best membership site script?

scottnewton

13 years ago

I was wondering the exact same thing TODAY. I hope you get some replies, Russ. I'll be watching.

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JOHN_RODRIGUEZ

13 years ago

My vote is for Digital Access Pass. Ravi's support is great. DAP allows you to drip feed your content easily. It has every feature I was looking for except that it cannot pay your affiliates instantly like RAP.

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brandon2664 13 years ago

Use amember. I used it for my site it was very easy. It is a one time fee of $179 and is was great for my site. I already had all my html ready and just plugged in amember.
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HelpfulHannah

13 years ago

Though I don't own it yet... I am considering buying DAP... I think it has everything I need... Just want to know how much extra SSS will be when it comes out.

Hope that helps,

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Tim Franklin

13 years ago

I have heard good things about DAP,

You left a few out, but there is one that I think deserves mention that is memberwing, the support is also great,

I have purchased, Wishlist, but do not use it, as it does not fit in with my business model, I could say more, but I think if I had to buy a script now it would be a hard choice between DAP and memberwing,

But I think Memberwing would win,

RAP is a great sales platform, but as far as comparing it to a membership script, I do not think it would be fair to do that, the add on's, provide a lot of functionality but you could end up spending a pant load of money for every little thing you want to do, again looking at price, memberwing, hits it again.

Just a few thoughts,

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CyberSorcerer

13 years ago

It all depends on what you are comfortable working with and the only way to know that is to jump in and give one a try.

Myself I use both Wishlist Member and aMember with no problems on either one. But you can see others that have problems with them, along with the other ones you mentioned.

So the only way to know what works for you is to start giving one a whirl.

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fated82

13 years ago

I run my membership site through DAP....very good support and has everything I need. I highly recommend it, especially if you are building your site via wordpress.

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Johnny Slater

13 years ago

For Fixed Term memberships the best option currently is Viral Membership System. It's designed specifically for those types of sites.

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Josh Anderson

13 years ago

Of course my answer will be Nanacast...

But here are the primary reasons why:

1. Nanacast can schedule dripped content and broadcast in real time.

2. Nanacast can drip and broadcast the following types of content and products for "Micro Continuity" type businesses:

DVDs, Books, Binders, Newsletters, Membership pages, rss episodes, podcasts, digital downloads etc.

You can also associate bonus content and products to be dripped when specific coupons are used.

Add to that the multi tier membership and upsell/downsell capabilities (even after the sale) and other robust features...

I have always felt we offer the best options for anyone wanting to do Micro Continuity.

You can run book of the month, cd, of the month, dvd of the month, membership content, combo packages including physical and digital, even paid email lists with our third party email service integration with auto unsubscribe on cancellation.

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Johnny Slater 13 years ago

Josh,

I wasn't aware your product had quite as many features as it does, and I do now see your product as the best currently on the market for FTM / MC style sites.

However, I am knocking on your back door and hope to catch up to you on at least some of those features soon.

Originally Posted by Josh Anderson

Of course my answer will be Nanacast...

But here are the primary reasons why:
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Daniel Deegan

13 years ago

I've tried DAP & Wishlist and one other wordpress plugin. Overall I felt DAP was the best. There is quite a curve getting it all set up and looking pretty, but once you get your workflow down its a slick script.

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globalpro

13 years ago

Russ,

Rapid Action Profits, RAP Press and Optimize Press work very well together. All the features of RAP for sales processing and affiliate management.

RAP Press will drip content, allow you to add other products, set up multi-level memberships, even memberships on other domains.

If you want to see how powerful it works, contact Kim Roach. Her site here:

Traffic Dashboard

is using this set up and it's really set off a flurry of interest in using this combo.

I call it the 'Kajabi Killer'. Works the whole Kajabi launch process, but you have full control.

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Kim Roach

13 years ago

Hey guys,

Just wanted throw my vote in for Rapid Action Profits and RAP Press.

For my latest product launch I used RAP + RAP Press + OptimizePress and I am completely in love with all three.

You can check out the member's area here to see an example:

http://www.buzzblogger.com/trafficdashboard/members

One of the great things about Rapid Action Profits is that you're able to give out 100% instant commissions - which makes it SUPER EASY to attract affiliates.

We've had 853 affiliates sign-up to promote and 101 of those are actively making sales. RAP seamlessly integrates the affiliate program so that every customer is invited to join the affiliate program as soon as they purchase.

Plus, because affiliates receive their commission directly from the customer you don't have to cut affiliate checks, do mass pays, or even send out 1099′s at the end of the year. So you have an incredible amount of control over HOW you manage your affiliate program but at the same time you don't have to worry about the hassles of paying affiliates, cutting checks, taxes, etc...

Plus, with RAP Press you can drip-feed content, create multiple levels of membership, plus a ton of other cool features that allow for extreme customization of your membership site.

I could go on and on but you can get my complete review at:

BuzzBlogger.com » I've Fallen In Love...

There I list both the advantages and the disadvantages of RAP.

But I researched for months on all of the different platforms and
RAP has almost all of the advanced features of other popular platforms
for a fraction of the price.

If you have any questions, feel free to send them my way.

Cheers,

Kim

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wortell 13 years ago

@Kim - ditto!

Also, loved your honest (both Pros and Cons) comparison of RAP + Rapid Action Press + Optimize Press package - as a whole...

and I want to highlight that my reasons for using RAP (and the essential addons) is:

the "big" ones for me...

** instant affiliate payment model (no doubt rocks for so many reasons it's not even funny!)

** ease in which to attract, and signup affiliates is key as well.

** no 1099's at the end of the year... (I've personally had to issue 100's of 1099s before, it's not fun, pretty, OR cheap! let alone getting everyone to submit their details to you)

** using a 100% of payment (non-split payment, non-chain payment) model (meaning the full payment goes to affiliate) as well is the safest for tax purposes both for US and abroad... no wondering how to interpret PayPal ToS (legal-eez) on who is to pay the taxes on split-payments, chained-payments, and of the like... this in and of itself is a sleeping 'giant' that will someday awake for a great many US affiliates)

other reasons - though many of the others have similar such comparisons...

** fully supported by a community via RAP Forums
** fully developed and supported by a growing, adaptive coding community to create ridiculously contagious, creative and masterful addons that extend the functionality core of MOST other membership programs
** it's track record dates beyond 3+ yrs at this point...
** can be used 'outta-da-box' without much setup! (this is huge)
** certainly not bloated, mangled, etc...
** easily change templates for a new look (I for one love this ability)...
** the code is FULLY scalable and extendible
** can be used on multiple domains (many limit to one domain)

the story goes ballistic when you add 'addons'!!!

RAP + PayPal Subscr + Mbr+ (or Rapid Action Press) together sets up an entirely different ballgame... as it's VERY easy to extend, code, or just use to make masterful membership sites, or blog memberships (with WordPress).

The drip feature with Mbr+ and RapidActionPress has been and continues to be the most extensive and elaborate set of features that exist in any product.

What's not always stated is how *clunky* some other membership scripts are to interact with their plugins, etc...

and, God Forbid! you have to integrate them with another 3rd party script... they go haywire! or do not work altogether and you're left with having to buy a plugin to make that 'connection' work.

... point being is that RAP + Mbr+ (or RAPress) stays outta your way when it comes to setting your membership site up.

when using Rapid Action Press (RAPress) you can...

* Use -- any -- plugin (WordPress) you wish on your WordPress installation
* Use -- any -- theme (WordPress) you wish on your WordPress installation
* Use 1 RAP installed domain to create multiple cross-domain (non-same as RAP install) WP site users, for your content to be delivered... ** OR **
* Use 1 WordPress install to deliver to your customers all their RAP based purchases from 1 or more RAP installed products.

combining PayPal into the mix, allows for unthinkable realms of membership continuity, payment plans, etc... as most of you already know, so I won't go there but by and large... RAP is the only script I'll be using for the next few years.

Point being is that flexibility without limiting one's capability is key and that is why RAP has stood the test of time... and every few weeks it actively gets better and better.
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fullmatrix

13 years ago

Try s2member at:
s2Member ( Membership Plugin ) « PriMoThemes.com

It's free but I'm sure it can compete with the paid ones. In my case, I only need simple system that can handle payment on subscription basis on my wordpress blog. And this plugin suit me well.

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ShaneRQR

13 years ago

I've used and tested all the ones you listed except RAP.

I personally dislike RAP for the way payments are handled (unless that's changed very recently), which can cause confusion about who the product owner is, where to send support requests etc.

Truthfully, which membership platform is best for you depends a lot on what exactly you have in mind and what you want the platform to be capable of.

For most scenarios, my number one recommendation would go to DAP. Excellent piece of software all around, and excellent support.

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Kim Roach

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

I've used and tested all the ones you listed except RAP.

I personally dislike RAP for the way payments are handled (unless that's changed very recently), which can cause confusion about who the product owner is, where to send support requests etc.

Truthfully, which membership platform is best for you depends a lot on what exactly you have in mind and what you want the platform to be capable of.

For most scenarios, my number one recommendation would go to DAP. Excellent piece of software all around, and excellent support.

Hey Shane,

We've just recently sold over 1600+ copies of our most recent product (the Traffic Dashboard) using Rapid Action Profits and we haven't had any problems at all over "confusion about who the product owner is, where to send support requests etc."

Have you personally experienced that?

Because we've used the platform quite extensively and I haven't seen that.

- Kim

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ShaneRQR

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kim Roach

Hey Shane,

We've just recently sold over 1600+ copies of our most recent product (the Traffic Dashboard) using Rapid Action Profits and we haven't had any problems at all over "confusion about who the product owner is, where to send support requests etc."

Have you personally experienced that?

Because we've used the platform quite extensively and I haven't seen that.

- Kim

Hi Kim,

That's good to hear. The way I understand it, the payment made through RAP goes to the actual affiliates PayPal account, right? So, if someone buys, the payment info on the checkout screen will show the affiliate's e-mail address and so will the receipt?

Unless this has changed and RAP is now using the PayPal split payments feature.

Anyway, I personally have not used RAP, as stated in my previous post, but I'd heard of people having these problems concerning support. That's the reason I've not used RAP in the first place.

But again: I'm glad to hear it's been working so well for you and I did not mean to bash the system.

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Core Freedom 13 years ago

It depends on what your overall goals are for the site and how much time you want to spend on your site, etc.

I have several sites and purchased Digital Access Pass for one of my sites. Ravi and Veena have the most outstanding customer service I've seen yet. This is crucial for when you need help 'now.' The learning curve is steeper than with the other ones (although I can't speak for RAP).

Again, it really depends on what you want and need - get clear on this first and then get the system that fits your wants and needs (include your growth in all this planning).

Best of luck and Happy new Year!
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Sid Hale

13 years ago

Hi Shane,

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

That's good to hear. The way I understand it, the payment made through RAP goes to the actual affiliates PayPal account, right? So, if someone buys, the payment info on the checkout screen will show the affiliate's e-mail address and so will the receipt?

RAP has the ability for the merchant to specify custom Paypal payment page options (including a custom page header graphic). These custom payment page options override settings on the affiliate's Paypal account, so that the Paypal page can look like it's from the merchant's account. You could even use a product specific page header, if you are selling multiple products from the same domain.

While the affiliate's email address will still show in the body of that page, the custom graphic replaces huge Paypal email address normally seen at the top of the page.

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SageSound

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

I personally dislike RAP for the way payments are handled (unless that's changed very recently), which can cause confusion about who the product owner is, where to send support requests etc.

This is 100% attributable to the RAP vendor (ie. YOU if you're setting it up to sell stuff) for failing to edit the templates and explain your policies and procedures properly.

The vast majority of RAP customers cannot figure out how to edit the page templates without the header and footer being intact. So what they do is edit the sales page template with the header and footer on it, then delete the header/footer files from /tmpl/ folder so it's not duplicated (it shows the default RAP header/footer around your sales page and looks ugly). Now, as far as RAP is concerned, that's a perfectly acceptable solution -- RAP doesn't care. You're free to shoot yourself in the foot if you want; RAP won't say a peep about it.

But what your customer sees is a bunch of pages generated from templates with no header and footer on them!

The way RAP is designed, you put your contact info, as well as links to your Terms, Privacy Policy, and Disclaimer, in the footer. So if you delete your footer.html template, it doesn't show up anywhere. In that case, the only data the customer has to rely on is the PayPal address of whomever caught the payment. If an affiliate caught the payment, then the customer is going to assume that's the product vendor.

I am amazed at the number of experienced marketers who do this on one site after another, and don't seem to care about the confusion it causes for their customers.

To be clear, this problem has nothing whatsoever to do with "the way payments are handled" by RAP. It happens because the vendor simply didn't customize the page templates properly.

FWIW, I've seen aMember and other sites with unmodified templates, and they are just as confusing and ugly as RAP sites that haven't been customized properly.

-David

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ChadH

13 years ago

I would signup with the RAP/RAP Press/OptimizePress combo you mentioned Kim if they allowed processors outside of Paypal. True one click upsells would be nice too, but the paypal processor thing is a shame... but I guess that's the only way to get true instant commissions I'd imagine. Seems great for the IM niche anyway.

I'm probably going to be going with DAP and Optimize Press.

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Sid Hale

13 years ago

Hey Chad,

Originally Posted by ChadH

I would signup with the RAP/RAP Press/OptimizePress combo you mentioned Kim if they allowed processors outside of Paypal. True one click upsells would be nice too, but the paypal processor thing is a shame... but I guess that's the only way to get true instant commissions I'd imagine. Seems great for the IM niche anyway.

I'm probably going to be going with DAP and Optimize Press.

Surely you don't think that Paypal is only useful in the IM niche... they're (hands down), the largest single payment processor on the web - so it's obviously NOT from just the IM niche.

In fact, I sell physical products in the golf niche on a site where I only accept - you guessed it - Paypal!

For Christmas 2009, I shipped a crystal chess set to Donald Trump from a sale on that site. No - I don't think he has a Paypal account, but they accept credit cards as easily as any other payment processor.

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Matthew Iannotti

13 years ago

I have used Amember, DAP, JV Manager And Delavo

My vote goes to Delavo..Just picked up a gold license at a steal (search google)

You need only one install to run on all domains it can do everything the others can do and then some...

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BlondieWrites

13 years ago

Wishlist is good. I had a tiny problem figuring out some things that I wanted to tweak, and got quick support and help. All of my membership sites are and will be using Wishlist.

Cindy

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SageSound

13 years ago

Originally Posted by RussRuffino

Hey guys,

Starting my first Microcontinuity (read: fixed-term membership) site, where people unlock new content every week. I'm building the whole thing on Optimize Press, but I'm wondering which membership site software is best out of the following choices...

1) Digital Access Pass

2) WP Wishlist

3) Nanacast

4) Rapid Action Profits and RAP Press

Any opinions from those with membership sites would be greatly appreciated!

All the best,

Russ

Generally speaking, I'd say to look at two things: (1) the licensing terms and (2) the learning curve.

Some folks are looking for just one site, and the cost of one site license on some of these is far cheaper than others. I'd say to pick the one with the lowest cost that wil do what you want, and will be the easiest to set up.

There are a TON of plugins for Wordpress that work on a wide variety of payment processors. They're cheap -- some are free -- and they're very easy to use. But they only do a limited set of things. None of the free or cheap ones I've found will let you drip content, for example. You can only set them up to charge to access to one post or page. You don't get protected downloads, or anything like what other scripts offer. But for some purposes, they're fine.

OTOH, if you're looking at setting up a bunch of sites, then look at scripts that give you unlimited site licenses, like RAP. Sure the up-front costs might be a bit higher, but that's usually the case for products that offer unlimited site licenses. (Sometimes these are called "Developer Licenses".)

This approach also protects your investment because the learning curve means each site will take you less time to set up as you gain more experience.

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As far as suggesting that only supporting PayPal as a payment processor is "too limiting", I can only say someone making such a suggestion is very confused.

PayPal lets you accept payments via PayPal, as well as Visa, Mastercard, AmEx, and perhaps others, without having to apply for a merchant credit card account and pay the monthly fees they cost.

And a number of OTHER payment processors ALSO support PayPal as a payment option, so where's the limitation?

PayPal has about 90% market share of all online payment processing options -- excluding direct merchant credit card processing options.

That means 9 out of 10 affiliates WILL be able to use PayPal, as opposed to 1 in 10 who'll be limited by not being able to use PayPal.

The biggest excuse people give that they want something other than PayPal is that they did something that got their account frozen and they can't open a new account. There's a simple solution to that -- set up a business entity, like an LLC or Corporation, with its own checking account, then set up a PayPal acct for that business entity tied to its checking acct.

If you're building a "real business", then why not set it up as a REAL business?

-David

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ShaneRQR

13 years ago

Thanks for the clarifications concerning RAP.

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Bryan Toder 13 years ago

Just to chime in here... I made the mistake and bought MagicMembers. What a nightmare.

Now, I have to figure out what to get to replace it.
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ravijayagopal

13 years ago

[Disclosure: I'm the founder/co-developer of DAP]

Thanks to all of the folks who said kind things about DAP :-)

For what it's worth, DAP has very powerful "Content Dripping" capabilities. We've also added many new features in the latest version, like Multi-Tier affiliates, Coupon Codes, Shortcodes, In-house Paypal Button Generator, Paypal Sandbox support, etc.

And throw in a theme like OptimizePress, and you have a full-blown, automated solution for delivering content.

Hope this helps.

- Ravi Jayagopal
PS: Of course, if you're using Paypal, do not setup multi-tier affiliates - or you could get into trouble with them :-)

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Danny Turner

13 years ago

You might also look at Easy Member Pro - my choice as best value for money script -
can be used on multiple domains

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ChadH

13 years ago

Hey Sid thanks for your reply.

It's cool to see that it will allow custom PayPal headers per product even. We have products in different verticals and this is a limitation by some big programs for checkout pages.

One question about RAP and refunds though. I guess this is more of a question about operations really. But if you use RAP for a front end 100% offer, then I assume it's probably best to use for your OTO's as well.

With refunds, obviously you can't claw it back from affiliates if it's an instant commission, so I assume the merchant just eats the commission and the refund correct? Especially if it's not a 100% commission you're specifying.

Any advice from people using RAP from an operational point of view would be great here. Seems like it has some good advantages in other areas of course, especially building buyers lists.

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Sid Hale

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ChadH

One question about RAP and refunds though. I guess this is more of a question about operations really. But if you use RAP for a front end 100% offer, then I assume it's probably best to use for your OTO's as well.

It's best to use RAP for EVERYTHING!

Both front-end and back-end offers can be any percentage you want (up to 100%)

With refunds, obviously you can't claw it back from affiliates if it's an instant commission, so I assume the merchant just eats the commission and the refund correct? Especially if it's not a 100% commission you're specifying.

It's the merchant's call.

I've eaten refunds, but I've also forced them back on the affiliate. It's part of the terms on affiliate sign up, so even if an affiliate ignores a request for a refund, the customer can always file a dispute w/ Paypal.

Since it is the affiliate's Paypal account, there is no negative impact on your own account. Paypal doesn't even know that you played any part in an affiliate sale.

Any advice from people using RAP from an operational point of view would be great here. Seems like it has some good advantages in other areas of course, especially building buyers lists.

Operationally, you can forward a refund request to the affiliate who got paid. Give them a few days to react. If they honor your guarantee, great.

If not, reply to the customer that they should request the refund via Paypal, and give them the affiliate's name and Paypal address. Ban the affiliate in the RAP Admin panel, so that they don't cause future problems of this nature, and when any of the affiliate's outstanding ads are sent to your site, the affiliate ID is stripped from the link and the affiliate's cookie is deleted. You get the sale.

I'm very "pro" affiliate - but I insist on professionalism in their dealings with prospects/customers, and with me. If they don't follow the rules, there is no reason you should feel bad about pulling the rug from under them.

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ChadH

13 years ago

Great thanks for the answers Sid.... so in the situation of a partial commission (60% let's say), if someone contacted us for a refund, then couldn't we simply inform them to contact PayPal, and then PayPal would deduct the 60% from the affiliate and 40% from us? That'd be pretty cool if it works that way...

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Sid Hale

13 years ago

Hi Chad,

It doesn't work quite like that.

Originally Posted by ChadH

Great thanks for the answers Sid.... so in the situation of a partial commission (60% let's say), if someone contacted us for a refund, then couldn't we simply inform them to contact PayPal, and then PayPal would deduct the 60% from the affiliate and 40% from us? That'd be pretty cool if it works that way...

In order to pay instant commissions, RAP alternates payments between the merchant and the affiliate (Paypal doesn't allow split payments), so the first sale goes to the merchant, then subsequent sales go to the affiliate until they have been paid the proper percentage. Then the next sale goes to the merchant again.

That way, the customer pays either the merchant, or the affiliate for the full amount of the sale, and if he/she requests a refund, the appropriate payee is ultimately responsible for that refund.

Commissions due are re-calculated on every sale (i.e. whose turn is it to be paid), so a refunded sale immediately becomes a part of the calculation. That way, if an affiliate refunds a customer, the system knows that he has been paid for one less sale, and he gets "bumped" in the rotation for payment.

Hope this helps,

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ChadH

13 years ago

Ah ok, thats an interesting way of doing it. Thanks for all your replies.

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Bryan Toder 13 years ago

FYI:

http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ght=membership
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Dexx

13 years ago

I run my OfflineToolkit.com membership site on RAP + RAPPRESS and can't imagine a simpler or easier method of handling affiliate payments, registrations, membership sign-ups, and content delivery.

Not to mention Sid and the rest of the community are VERY helpful should any questions or confusion arise.

Food for thought!

~Dexx

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ChadH

13 years ago

hey guys sorry if I missed this.... with RAP and RAP Press, can you do a forced continuity on the same transaction with Paypal? So, front end product is $39.95 plus they get a free trial of your membership site for 30 days then are billed $19.95 per month after.

Forced or option continuity is fine, I just want it on the same checkout.

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Sid Hale

13 years ago

Hi Chad,

Originally Posted by ChadH

hey guys sorry if I missed this.... with RAP and RAP Press, can you do a forced continuity on the same transaction with Paypal? So, front end product is $39.95 plus they get a free trial of your membership site for 30 days then are billed $19.95 per month after.

Forced or option continuity is fine, I just want it on the same checkout.

Don't see why not.

Think about it... It's really a $39.95 trial period, with a $19.95 recurring amount. How you choose to describe it on your sales page, is pretty much up to you.

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WilliamLark

13 years ago

WP eMember This is a good one I bought and use on my member site they also have several other good WP Plugins.

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PDLaughlin 13 years ago

I'm a fan of WP SalesAutomator. Don't let the $9.95 price fool you. (BTW - It may still be free for War Room members.) It's super powerful and does everything I need for my membership sites. I do use a couple additional plugins but they're only $9.95 too.
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- radiotiger 13 years ago
  
  For me the best one is Membership Formula. Its very advanced for this type of requirement to deliver zip files.
  
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  alphateam 13 years ago
  
  My vote goes to Wishlist
  
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  Robert Plank 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by alphateam
  
  My vote goes to Wishlist
  
  Me too, I'm a huge fan of wishlist so much that I've created a bunch of plugins for it including a drip content plugin that I've used on all my membership sites for the past 2 years and that's being used on over 1133 sites...
  
  Wishlist is better if for no other reason that you can build plugins on top of it.
  
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AllanWM

13 years ago

Does anyone know of a membership plugin or script that will integrate with Wordpress and offer PayPal instant affiliate commissions? Or integrate with DigiResults or SimpleOneClick or another affiliate program that offers instant commissions? I want to eliminate the need for me to generate and send 1099 forms.

I am considering DAP, but it does not offer the instant affiliate commission feature.

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Sid Hale

13 years ago

Hey Allan,

I don't know how I missed this up till now...

Originally Posted by AllanWM

Does anyone know of a membership plugin or script that will integrate with Wordpress and offer PayPal instant affiliate commissions? Or integrate with DigiResults or SimpleOneClick or another affiliate program that offers instant commissions? I want to eliminate the need for me to generate and send 1099 forms.

There is a fully-featured Add On for RAP, that does exactly what you ask.

Rapid Action Press (RAP Press) is a combination RAP Add On/Wordpress plugin, developed specifically to create WP membership sites, that are sold using the RAP instant commission front end for sales, payment processing, affiliate management, etc.

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matthepburn

12 years ago

For myself and a few in a mastermind group I belong to, this has been a struggle to make the right decision as to which up-sell payment processor/membership script to purchase. I think it comes down to a few things.
How many sites are you going to manage with your system?
Do you have to install and configure it once, or on every site?
Do you have the ability to integrate facebook connect with your membership opt in forms.

The shocking hack of indigitalworks made me reconsider having a system that was installed within wordpress or on my hosting.

It has been very frustrating for me as I really like many of the features of DAP, and their wicked cool plugins. Ravi is a great guy.

However, I feel that if I purchase DAP, I am making a patchwork of plugins to get the type of up-sell payment processor/membership script, along with integration of vervante etc.. and more.

Nancast is only system I know that now incorporates facebook connect to their opt-in forms, and that has sold me.

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ravijayagopal

12 years ago

Matt,

DAP is one of the few self-hosted membership plugins that comes with a large number of features built right into the core software, without the need to buy additional plugins.

For example...

Content Dripping... built-in to DAP
Autoresponders... built-in
Email Broadcasts... built-in
Multi-tier Affiliate Program... built-in
Shopping Cart with Coupons... built-in
1-Click Upsells with Auth.net and Paypal Pro... built-in
Buy-Button generation for Paypal, Auth.net and Pro... built-in
vBulletin integration... built-in

Compare us to some of our competitors, where you would pretty much have to buy multiple separate plugins (one for dripping, another for affiliate program, etc) - and/or sign up with external services - to get the exact same functionality that DAP provides right out of the box. What's worse, is that with some of them, you may also have to sign up for a monthly membership just to get the additional plugins.

So if you're looking at purely a self-hosted wordpress membership solution (and NOT comparing it to fully hosted solutions like Nanacast) then DAP is probably one of the very few solutions that comes with almost everything you'll need in one package. And we've developed it all ourselves, so no third-party software to figure out or install, and no third-party developers to run after, to get support.

And of course, no one - and I mean *no one* beats us in support :-)

All this just to say that DAP is NOT a "patchwork of plugins" :-)

Cheers!

- Ravi Jayagopal
P.S: Feel free to contact me offline if you have any other questions or concerns.

Originally Posted by matthepburn

...I really like many of the features of DAP, and their wicked cool plugins. Ravi is a great guy.

However, I feel that if I purchase DAP, I am making a patchwork of plugins to get the type of up-sell payment processor/membership script, along with integration of vervante etc.. and more.

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matthepburn 12 years ago

Hey there Ravi,

I was not trying to imply that the core of DAP was a quilt work of plugins. I was trying to compare DAP to Nanacast and the difference between having to add on plugins for vervante. I know that you guys launched the wicked cool plugins for DAP. Also it looks like the odesk version for DAP is coming out. Within the new plugins, there is the IPN redirect. Maybe you or someone else can clarify for us, if this is a nanacast feature or not.

There are so many questions when making this decision as to which one to purchase. My comment on the thread was more related to an installation where you could handle multiple websites from one installation. I have asked you before if that was possible with WMU, and it is not.

I am afetr a product that can handle multiple sites, not multiple installations.
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matthepburn 12 years ago

Hey there Ravi,

I think DAP is great service if you are running one or two websites. My comment was speaking to having a solution that would work from one installation for several websites. I have asked you about this option offline and and if it was possible to use DAP with WPMU. You had replied that you had to install it in every instance. I also was comparing DAP to nanacast and not other services. I was also talking about how I felt, that with the release of wicked cool plugins that work with DAP and are plugin, and lets face it, the amazon plugin you have and the DAP wp plugin, I personally, feel that it is one plugin too many. Especially when they all have to be configured for separate sites. For myself, nancast is the answer.
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ravijayagopal

12 years ago

Matt,

While DAP does not work with WPMU at this time, DAP sure does allow you, even though it is a self-hosted plugin, to use it as a content and affiliate hub for all of your content.

See http://DigitalAccessPass.com/documen...affiliate-hub/

This only works if your various niches are related. If your niches are all very varied in nature (say one about FaceBook secrets, and another about growing horseradish), then the above structure may not make sense (but it would still work).

Hope this helps.

- Ravi Jayagopal

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Dr Dan

12 years ago

We (2 RockStars) really wanted to make DAP work for us... But after Ben has spent endless hours learning and trying to get DAP to play nice... we are definitely moving on from DAP...

I wish we would have just went with Nanacast from the beginning... Which I had used in the past.

I hear really great things about Ravi and some really like DAP... But for us... we just cant waste anymore time with DAP support sending us the same repeat canned suggestions that dont help us getting DAP to play nice with us.

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Instructor

12 years ago

Is nanocast still around?

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Josh Anderson 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Instructor

Is nanocast still around?

Never heard of Nanocast...

But Nanacast has been here since 2006.
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Chronic IM

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RussRuffino

Hey guys,

Starting my first Microcontinuity (read: fixed-term membership) site, where people unlock new content every week. I'm building the whole thing on Optimize Press, but I'm wondering which membership site software is best out of the following choices...

1) Digital Access Pass

2) WP Wishlist

3) Nanacast

4) Rapid Action Profits and RAP Press

Any opinions from those with membership sites would be greatly appreciated!

All the best,

Russ

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Maybe you should try DAP... Because some websites use this feature and also works best with WPMU... Well, Best of luck!

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Dr Dan

12 years ago

We 2RockStars are now on Nanacast and still dealing with major issues using DAP on one of our sites right now.

Go with Nanacst!!!!!! NUFF... said

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Jesus Perez 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dr Dan

We 2RockStars are now on Nanacast and still dealing with major issues using DAP on one of our sites right now.

Go with Nanacst!!!!!! NUFF... said

What he said! ^^

Been using it for years and I love it.
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Josh Anderson

12 years ago

Hi Ron,

When you say we bumped our pricing... not in recent years. We did up our pricing back in 2007 or 08... don't remember its been many years.

In regards to mobile checkout... you can fully customize our forms using html and css... so our forms can be coded to do anything you can imagine in mobile but in reference to our secure checkout form... yes, it works with smart phones and can be customized with css but not yet optimized for mobile by default.

In regards to our UI, yes, there have been some improvements. But Nanacast is still an enterprize system with LOTS of setting and features that make our users millions... doubling, tripling, and quadrupling many people's profits. That means that you have to learn how to use it. Once you do... it makes business automation and management a breeze to manage.

In regards to documentation there is inline documentation and tool tips found on location throughout our system. We have a searchable knowledgebase filled with hundreds of articles. There is this page which includes text and image based quick start guides and overview videos that are essential for getting a fast start: Nanacast - How To and then you have our support that provide detailed direction to assist those who need answers to questions that apply to their specific business model.

We did recently do a few more UI updates and as a result are working on updating and creating more training videos.

Our primary focus is on putting out features that allow people more control and power for automation, subscriber and billing management, integration with third party systems and applications, and increasing their bottom line... which is our primary focus... features that make you more money.

But don't just take my word for it, listen to our users, many of whom are processing millions of dollars and tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of transactions - Nanacast Review - YouTube

And for those who are interested in DAP they now support Nanacast API integration and posted some details about it in their forum. I was chatting with Ravi about it recently on Facebook. This would allow people to use Nanacast processing and subscriber management with DAP as an option for wordpress membership. This is one of many third party integrations with wordpress now available using our API.

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