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Massmoneymakers

by Stephen Soos
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I just signed up for this as I am new to IM and thought this was worth a look for $37.

Problem is the "Phase 3" video does not work. Matt's voice disappears so there is no instruction and it is pretty pointless. Really frustrating to get so far in and this happens. You'd have thought they would have checked this.

It's weird to listen to Alen have a conversation with Matt, who is silent.

I have emailed them 4 times, no response. Their support sites has also disappeared over the last few hours so it seems I am left with a lot of hype and no product.

(They have now See below)

I have read the threads about this and still decided to opt for it, but there are no reviews by buyers. So I hope this helps.

Perhaps when they re-record the 3rd video it will be worth the money, but there is a lot of vital content that is supposedly being taught here so I cannot complete the training part.

Also, Alen tends to talk too fast for a newbie, I am constantly going back on stuff.


Was it worth $37 ? Well, if they fix the video, if they respond to support requests, if it works, and I can't tell that yet as I can't use it.

Hope this is useful. Will update if they fix it or reply to requests.
#mass money makers #massmoneymakers #matt bacak
  • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
    This MassMoneyMakers software is similar to Massive Passive Profits on this domain: MassivePassiveSoftware.com

    NicheChoppers has dropped their entrance fee for awhile so you can get in free. They are set up for newbies with everything done for you and they help you too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill_Lawrence
      I don't like the sales page. I haven't bought this but I think the sales page is crappy. I expected more from these guys.

      I could be wrong but I think most impulse buyers are looking to buy something right away and most of the time they don't even read the entire page. But this products sales page is sooooo poor that it doesn't give the reader an opportunity to buy until the bottom of the page. It simply says "download" ....that's slick advertisement. It mentions no price or anything. But I think by not having a "buy now" button near the top of the sales page hurts the conversions.
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      • Profile picture of the author Reno Van Boven
        Originally Posted by Bill_Lawrence View Post

        I don't like the sales page. I haven't bought this but I think the sales page is crappy. I expected more from these guys.

        I could be wrong but I think most impulse buyers are looking to buy something right away and most of the time they don't even read the entire page. But this products sales page is sooooo poor that it doesn't give the reader an opportunity to buy until the bottom of the page. It simply says "download" ....that's slick advertisement. It mentions no price or anything. But I think by not having a "buy now" button near the top of the sales page hurts the conversions.
        You may not like the sales page but many others do.. Have you seen gravity of this product on CB. They've made HISTORY and are the TOP seller on CB.

        Now I don't know anything about the product so I cannot comment on that but it seems that this "crappy" sales page is generating millions for these guys and great commissions for affiliates.

        -- Reno
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    • Profile picture of the author infohog
      Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

      This MassMoneyMakers software is similar to Massive Passive Profits on this domain: MassivePassiveSoftware.com

      NicheChoppers has dropped their entrance fee for awhile so you can get in free. They are set up for newbies with everything done for you and they help you too.
      Checked out Nichchoppers and it does look promising but it was a pain in the a** to sign up too. Ultra-sensitive captcha is bad enough but the 'complete the sentence' bit gets frustrating. I muddled through it though and will check it out.

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author dexterfulton
    Maybe the product works... maybe not, but here's the dirty truth. For $37 don't expect the easy button; be prepared to do some work. If the software was all that, then you'd be paying a lot more.

    The software probably does work, but you're going to need to educate yourself to get the engine started. (This goes for any $37 product.) Good Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Soos
      Originally Posted by dexterfulton View Post

      Maybe the product works... maybe not, but here's the dirty truth. For $37 don't expect the easy button; be prepared to do some work. If the software was all that, then you'd be paying a lot more.

      The software probably does work, but you're going to need to educate yourself to get the engine started. (This goes for any $37 product.) Good Luck!
      This is the best advice I have had and I appreciate it very much.

      I admit that I did go into this with my "get rich quick" hat on, only because this was how the product is sold. I now know that it is not like this.

      However, don't be put off if you are reading this and new, I still 100% believe that this "Process" rather than program will work, once they have fixed the critical errors in one of the videos, being no narration form Matt Bacak.

      I am committed to making this work and have taken the next 3 weeks away from my current work to put my head full time into this.

      I am realistic, and I know it is going to take time, but I am very experienced in using VA's, so once I have the hang of it I will outsource as much as possible.

      Anyway, have had a response from a guy called Dave who tells me that they are working on the video problem. That's good enough for me. I don't want anyone to be put off by this, it is an open and honest experience and like I say, I have 100% confidence still, so will march on with enthusiasm.

      Thanks for the advice all

      Happy New Year and I hope you achieve beyond your dreams. - I will !

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author chuckles
        Just checked what pages were indexed for their domain and came across this Mark Down Dec. 28th on Your Calander... (not an affiliate link of any kind!) . So the product creators are going to sell 183 copies at $37 each giving them around $7k - however the page clearly states they are giving out $20,000 in prizes to affiliates for the launch.

        So these marketers will spend $20,000 to make $7,000 - so they are down $13,000. It's a shame so few copies are available ;-)

        They might have something that works but I won't support marketers that cannot tell the truth - or let me know what I am buying.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
          Originally Posted by chuckles View Post

          So these marketers will spend $20,000 to make $7,000 - so they are down $13,000. It's a shame so few copies are available ;-)

          They might have something that works but I won't support marketers that cannot tell the truth - or let me know what I am buying.
          I hear you-I hate that tactic too-for digital products I always ignore the claims that limited #s are being sold-why would they limit their profit?

          If you examine the usual claim that the method is too powerful to let very many people get their hands on it, it just doesn't make sense to sell it at all-especially for the pittance that they'd make if the claim were true-and compared to the fantastic money they make with the method, rather than the sale of it. But the model is to make money selling the system-not make money by holding it back, and just using it themselves.

          On the other hand, plenty of good products are sold in cheesy ways, and false scarcity has become as common as dirt, even among otherwise honorable marketers, who give their buyers real value.

          So while I agree with you that lying stinks, I will still buy from someone that uses scarcity (can't know for certain if it's false-I normally assume it though). That's not because I respect it-just that, like it or not, there are great products and services being sold that way-doesn't mean that they're doing anything else wrong.

          I'm not trying to change your mind-just sharing my thoughts on my own decision process. Yours might be better, for all I know.
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          • Profile picture of the author jburdic
            Did anybody buy any of the upsells/downsells/crosssells?

            I beleive there were about 6 total upsells:

            $37 -front-end

            $297 -10 sites
            $197-5 sites
            $97-3 sites
            $197- bot
            $97-bot w/discount
            $97-traffic/links

            Each with at least a 5-15 minutes or so video.

            Yeah, wow.

            Anybody bite on any of those?
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Gatica
              Just got an email from Matts wife apparently his birthday is tomorrow, and he has been up for 3 days making sure everything runs smoothly!

              and would like nothing else then to break every clickbank record!

              how did i get on her list? didnt signup for it.

              this whole campaign has a foul taste.
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              • Profile picture of the author JMSD
                Originally Posted by Jeremy Gatica View Post


                this whole campaign has a foul taste.
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                "This is typical BS product targeted at 'few clicks solution' seekers.
                I would never insult my list by promoting this crap." Alminc

                Hi everyone

                I could not disagree more with the above comments and I'll explain why that is.

                Before I buy anything that is being promoted (even from trusted experts), I check reviews on WF first. WF has never failed to help me spend my money wisely, thanks to users' FACTUAL comments.

                I did the same for MassMoneyMakers promotion but was disappointed that the negative comments seemed to come from people who have not used this at all. Anyway, at $37 and 60-day money back guarantee, I opted to chance it because Matt Bacak was part of the product creation.

                I ignored any upsells on the MMM site and was amused by the scarcity ploy which was neither here nor there for me - I don't fall for that type of nonsense, anyway.

                I've been in the IM long enough to know that there is no "quick fix" to success and that if you are serious about an online (or offline) business, there's work and patience involved - either you do all the work yourself or pay someone else to do it for you, however many wild and fanciful claims are made to the contrary.

                I spent most of 30th December going through each and every video tutorial (two of them are well over one hour long and one was over two hours long). I usually know when a product is good by how eager I am to take notes and to check out sites that are mentioned and I can tell you that this product had me not only taking notes but also putting my action plan to work, based on this product tutorials. The final 30 mins demo was on the software which had been the main attraction for me, at any rate.

                Was it worth the time and expense?

                Absolutely - I'm surprised the introductory price was not set at three times the price, at least. I'd be more than happy to throw up an affiliate page to promote this which is nothing like the kind of "BS" OR "crap" products being peddled by some marketers, even the top "gurus" who should know better.

                Were the videos instructive - very and on the button and this without any fluff or hype

                Is the software great? - I love it! If you've used Market Samurai as I have, then you'd agree that this is a more user-friendly but I'd say just as sophisticated a piece of software for keyword research. This software, alone, is worth three times the price paid for MMM.

                Any flaws? Yes - the audio left a lot to be desired but I note that this has since been fixed with the 3rd Video which was the worst as it was barely audible despite on PC and video volume being turned on max.

                Email notification was sent by Matt and Alen to "customers only" and I quote: "First off, we've just re-recorded the Phase 3 video...it's the same content, but now the audio is very clear."

                Support system? I had no need to use it as everthing was self-explanatory but that might be because I'm not exactly new to using web editors, ftp software, setting up squeeze pages or WP sites or using various software packages or carrying out market or keyword research.

                Who is this for? As someone has already remarked, if you're already making good money from your product or affiliate sites, then you don't need this course, although the software is great if you don't have MS.

                If, however, you are still struggling to make any serious money, then $37 for this easy-to-follow and implement tactics + great software product will be money well spent, even if it serves to do nothing more than get you off your butt and doing things that are demo-ed rather than being a mere spectator to what's being shown.

                As someone who buys as many good "how-to" products (I usually learn at least one new and good thing from each one which improves performance on my sites), I'd say that this product is everything it says on the "tin" and then some.

                So if there are WFs wondering whether or not to commit, consider all the comments and then make up your own mind about whether or not this product will provide you with the missing links. Try it out and if it genuinely fails to meet your expectations, you still have the guarantee to fall back on.

                Happy New Year to all WFs and thanks for all the great things I've learned while a member, here.

                James
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                • Profile picture of the author robert_aus
                  I bought the product to just see what it is they were teaching and find out about the software.

                  I managed to avoid the upsells. I would not buy any of them just on principle after what they put people through. They had videos only with no controls and you just had to sit and wait and wait to move on.

                  Once you get past all that and into the membership site you get several videos and as mentioned above they are quite long. Too long in my opinion. They are aimed at a complete beginner.

                  I also hate how they are just big long videos and you have to watch and watch to get maybe one or two minutes of good content. They really should break them into specific task videos.

                  What I did like was an action steps checklist. That is about all you need if you are beyond the newbie stage.

                  With the software I found keywords in Market Samurai and then imported them into the Mass Money software only to find the filter in MS already showed the money keywords so it did not really provide much additional value. It does allow you to sort and group keywords that are to be used to build a site so that is good.

                  Overall if you have a day to kill I say go for it especially if you don't already use Market Samurai but I really think the marketing video is bs. They just show lots of sales being made but you don't know what they are coming from. They could have easily just sent emails out to existing lists to inflate the sales.

                  Also the limited number of copies stuff is crap, now come on why do they bother with that?
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            • Profile picture of the author Hank Scott
              Originally Posted by jburdic View Post

              Did anybody buy any of the upsells/downsells/crosssells?

              I beleive there were about 6 total upsells:

              $37 -front-end

              $297 -10 sites
              $197-5 sites
              $97-3 sites
              $197- bot
              $97-bot w/discount
              $97-traffic/links

              Each with at least a 5-15 minutes or so video.

              Yeah, wow.

              Anybody bite on any of those?
              Those long upsell videos were highly annoying, and totally unnecessary if these marketers really knew what they were doing (ever hear of C.J. Parker's Upsell Equation?)...

              Too many upsells spoils the product, to my way of thinking, unless it really delivers some high-end training for a low price point.

              And what are the odds of that?
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          • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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            Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

            So while I agree with you that lying stinks, I will still buy from someone that uses scarcity (can't know for certain if it's false-I normally assume it though). That's not because I respect it-just that, like it or not, there are great products and services being sold that way-doesn't mean that they're doing anything else wrong.
            I buy from those who use scarcity too. If I find out they were lying about it, I refund.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alminc
              This is typical BS product targeted at 'few clicks solution' seekers.
              I would never insult my list by promoting this crap.
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          Originally Posted by chuckles View Post

          Just checked what pages were indexed for their domain and came across this Mark Down Dec. 28th on Your Calander... (not an affiliate link of any kind!) . So the product creators are going to sell 183 copies at $37 each giving them around $7k - however the page clearly states they are giving out $20,000 in prizes to affiliates for the launch.
          Ever heard of upsells?

          I beleive there were about 6 total upsells:

          $37 -front-end

          $297 -10 sites
          $197-5 sites
          $97-3 sites
          $197- bot
          $97-bot w/discount
          $97-traffic/links
          Though, if I were a gambling man, I'd bet there is no limit, no matter what they say. If 1,000 people want in, they're getting in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Soos
    Just had an update call from Dave at massmoneymakers, which was excellent. They are uploading a new video as we speak and I am assure it will be completed within 1.5 hours.

    So, as I said, I still 100% believe in this product because as a complete novice, what I have seen so far is very good. The fact that they have acknowledged and fixed the problem within 24 hours shows a clear commitment to quality customer service provision. I am impressed.

    For me, their reputation is still in tact and I will let you know how well I do as time goes on.

    If you read this Dave, thanks for your effort and responses once you knew there was a problem.

    Happy new year to all, especially me with this new program.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
      Originally Posted by miked2345 View Post

      I always check Warrior Forum now, whenever I get a "You Gotta See This!" email in my box... This place has saved me a ton of money.

      Now here's something I noticed about THIS OFFER....

      Watch the video.. pay CLOSE attention to the beginning...

      The guy clearly says "We just started a brand new account" at Clickbank.
      Then he shows you the date, Dec. 11, 2010.
      Then the video shows the Clickbank Daily Sales Snapshot... They made
      $138.56 in their brand new account....

      Umm... wait a sec - Look down at the bottom of the video screen...
      Where it says "Date account opened: 2009-09-10"

      Now I'm not here to bash anyone, but it seems their "Brand New Account"
      is well over a year old! I have to ask myself, "if the FIRST thing they tell me
      is not true, what about the rest of it!?!?!?"

      Just my two cents worth...
      So they used an account that sat for awhile....whats the big deal?
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      • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        So they used an account that sat for awhile....whats the big deal?
        My concern would be why it's not so obvious that there's no way those commissions came from the sites they teach you to build.

        I bet, and yes it's an assumption, that those commissions were coming in because of the product launch itself, or at least some kind of mailing.

        Nobody's going to make thousands of dollars overnight building websites, that's just unrealistic.

        From what I've heard, it's just a course on how to build a website, and a piece of software that does some niche/keyword/market research for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
          Originally Posted by Adam Roy View Post

          My concern would be why it's not so obvious that there's no way those commissions came from the sites they teach you to build.

          I bet, and yes it's an assumption, that those commissions were coming in because of the product launch itself, or at least some kind of mailing.

          Nobody's going to make thousands of dollars overnight building websites, that's just unrealistic.

          From what I've heard, it's just a course on how to build a website, and a piece of software that does some niche/keyword/market research for you.
          The sites are created with the intent of building out mailing lists
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        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        So they used an account that sat for awhile....whats the big deal?
        Other than lying, nothing at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richnana
      Doggone it you can't fool mother nature or those sharp eyed guys on the Warrior Forum. Good catch. Keep up the good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author mgpweb
    I come across this one this morning, I looked through the sales letter and it turned me off immediately, I can't stand all the hype of so many $$$$$$$$. Yes they might of made money in their clickbank account, but I reckon its from selling this product (not by doing the program they offer).
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    Promoting too much and too many people then it is tough to get $$$$$
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      Wow. Thanks for sharing that video. I'm just going through the MMM's training videos right now. That info will help me out alot when it comes time to use their software tool.
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      • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
        Re: SHENANIGANS: Mass Money Makers

        That's the 2nd thread they closed. I posted the mile long list they sent out with headlines, look who's on board. What about You? Don't miss the boat!

        Thanks, but I can float! Why did some get mad because I posted that list but nobody was surprised (as if that's normal) by the creators who actually used it for obvious reasons. It worked.

        That sounds like, can you hear that? There's a message, it's a whisper but I can hear what it's saying - it's okay to use the list but don't tell anyone. Okay. Whatever you say.

        What's up with all the so-called leaders being lead by the nose to do as their told without question?
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        • Profile picture of the author Netcat
          Maybe it's the holiday season's fault for causing such impulsive behaviour, but after seeing the sales page promoted in my e-mail box about six consecutive times and some more - one even promised that it is life changing and bet his reputation on it, I jumped in and bought MMM. The upsales were a pain, but I did not get them. I checked my inbox and was sent straight to the training. Thanks to RealPlayer I have downloaded the first video and can watch it without stops and hiccups. I will post some more comments as I go along.

          I hope it is as good as they say, but will not give an opinion until I have given it a full out go. Any feedback from those who bought it earlier yet?
          Tip: For "one time never to be seen again offers" I just bookmark the page and can go there again any time I like. Even copy the buy button, paste it on my e-mail and send it to myself for future reference. Not sure if it's necessary as I'm sure they will have those offers again sometime during the training. I just like to make sure.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
          Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

          Re: SHENANIGANS: Mass Money Makers

          That's the 2nd thread they closed. I posted the mile long list they sent out with headlines, look who's on board. What about You? Don't miss the boat!

          Thanks, but I can float! Why did some get mad because I posted that list but nobody was surprised (as if that's normal) by the creators who actually used it for obvious reasons. It worked.

          That sounds like, can you hear that? There's a message, it's a whisper but I can hear what it's saying - it's okay to use the list but don't tell anyone. Okay. Whatever you say.

          What's up with all the so-called leaders being lead by the nose to do as their told without question?
          Didn't follow what you wrote well but I think you're asking why was the other MMM thread closed or deleted? Rule #1 of this forum is not bash or get into it personal disputes with other marketers. So someone must have bashed or began saying so and so did this or that. I don't know since I didn't see it all.

          You can review a product, good or bad without getting nasty. I don't mean you personally since I haven't read any of your other posts... just in general.
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        • Profile picture of the author Laurie Rogers
          Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

          Re: SHENANIGANS: Mass Money Makers

          That's the 2nd thread they closed. I posted the mile long list they sent out with headlines, look who's on board. What about You? Don't miss the boat!

          Thanks, but I can float! Why did some get mad because I posted that list but nobody was surprised (as if that's normal) by the creators who actually used it for obvious reasons. It worked.

          That sounds like, can you hear that? There's a message, it's a whisper but I can hear what it's saying - it's okay to use the list but don't tell anyone. Okay. Whatever you say.

          What's up with all the so-called leaders being lead by the nose to do as their told without question?

          The reason why people were getting mad about you posting the list is because, by doing so you were suggesting that everyone on the list actually promoted the product, when in reality they did not. It's one thing to produce a list of names with actual confirmation that they did indeed promote the product, but it's another to put people's names on a list and then remove them after accusing them of something they didn't do. There were in fact a lot of people on that list that didn't promote it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
          Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

          Re: SHENANIGANS: Mass Money Makers

          That's the 2nd thread they closed.
          I'm not surprised, if there were three threads for the same product going at once, it's not unusual to close two of them.

          This one should stick around, providing it remains a review thread for the product.
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    • Profile picture of the author Darren Dillman
      Originally Posted by GersonM View Post

      Guys

      I've bought the basic version at $37 and patiently resisted all the video upsells but it would be great to get some feedback on the so called Mass Money Commission Bot if anyone has bought that??

      I wanted to share technique by Marty Roz using the Super Affiliate Tool in MassMoneyMakers and MarketSamurai (or another you use). It is good stuff and should be of help to some warriors out there, enjoy:

      YouTube - Marty's Super-Killer Keyword Technique for 2011
      Marty's Super-Killer Keyword Technique for 2011
      I'm having problems with the software. In the video above and also at MMM that shows how to delete the default parameters and set up your own.

      When I try it, it doesn't delete either of the defaults and if I try to create new ones or edit the defaults...hit save...it doesn't save. In fact, the pop up window remains.

      If I edit the defaults to what I want, save then cancel (because the pop up remains as I said) it works, I think anyway, but is incredibly slow getting results compared to using MS or even MNF. So a bit frustrating.

      I sent couple "Need Help?" messages concerning my problems with the software but have not heard back.

      I also uninstalled and re-installed the software but still having same problems.

      On a second question about the video. Are you really supposed to use MS prior to using the MMM software? As I understood it, you are suppose to get your 800 to 1100 keywords from Google tool then upload directly to MMM.

      Correct?

      I suppose if you have MS then you don't really need the MMM except for grouping your keywords and such, which is nice.

      Anyone else having issues with the software?
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      • Profile picture of the author JMSD
        Just wanted to clarify something that a Warrior posted on the previous threads on MMM which have since been locked.

        It was claimed that MMM required you to have/use Photoshop. Not true.

        Whilst it is true that in the 2nd Video Photoshop is mentioned (trial version for those who don't want to fork out $$$$), a free alternative "Gimp" was also suggested and demo given for downloading Gimp.

        The videos appear to have been redone and are much, much better and clearer. Also the software has been debugged to allow for better function.

        Something I didn't see initially, was that Adobe Air needs to be downloaded for the software to function well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Darren Dillman
        The issues I was having with the software has been resolved by...ME. I only needed to run as administrator. Software was fine just I was running it on my secondary user.
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  • Profile picture of the author AigulErali
    If you are a newbie or if you just want a guide on how to start earning money as
    an affiliate then you'd buy 'Mass Money Makers.

    The whole course is consisted by videos - you need to be online to watch the videos
    through. An action list and the relevant resources are offered through separate links.

    I really liked the OTO/Special Offer after the order which
    I STRONGLY suggest you too; for the price asked it's a good deal.
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      • Profile picture of the author GlenH
        God.... I've never received so many emails from marketers promoting a product as I have for this thing.

        I usually get seven or eight emails from the usual suspects, who always promote the latest Clickbank 'whatever' when it's released, but with this one, I got emails from people I've never subscribed with, plus a whole bunch of spam emails. I stopped counting at 50

        Even some of the really 'big boys' got on board with this one. :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Keithsco
    Ya. This looks like a standard "I'll promote yours and you promote mine" guru list swapper noob product for the masses

    Fortunately for me I am WAAY too old for magic bullet hunting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brukhar
    I'm sure they made their money by selling this product (the gravity on it is insane because suckers buy into it) and not by actually doing the hard work for IM. Not that you won't make any money from it, because quite frankly if you keep up at even a bad method, you'll eventually make some money, but it's certainly way overhyped.
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  • Profile picture of the author JGK
    So can someone please tell me what the product actually does? And why its so "unique"?
    Some form of special keyword research? different to Google KWT/Market Samurai?
    Does it automate anything about putting up sites?
    Does it autoselect offers for you?
    Build out content like an autoblog?
    Was it clear how they made their $
    Enquiring minds want to know....or at least one enquiring mind
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  • Profile picture of the author Edward Floyd
    Originally Posted by JGK View Post

    So can someone please tell me what the product actually does? And why its so "unique"?
    It's related to list building and affiliate marketing. I do think their method has some cool points to it, but for the newbie it's too hard to execute due to their poor videos and explanation.

    I bought this product when it came out and I'm probably going to return it before the 60 day refund period is up. I'm just waiting to see if they manage to turn themselves around and fix the problems they've got.

    Firstly, the videos are bad. As mentioned above, one of them didn't even work properly since the sound was missing. It doesn't inspire a lot of trust in them when you know that they haven't even tested their product before releasing it. They did fix the sound, but there are more problems.

    They use Market Samurai in their videos. I don't have Market Samurai. They say that you can use their included program instead (called SAT) however they don't provide information on how you are able to supplement SAT for MS. Market Samurai does things that SAT can't. There is a short video on how to use SAT, but it does not cover how it can completely replace MS.

    They provide action steps - instructions of exactly what to do step by step - however they aren't clear for this section. Not specific enough in terms of keyword research.

    Not being able to use MS is crucial because it means you can't do the necessary keyword research needed to proceed to the following steps. I could probably work out the best keywords to use on my own, but the fact is that they don't give you step by step instructions for this part unless you have MS. This really annoyed me. They are slow to reply to their support emails as well.

    The videos are also just structured bad. They jump around and they don't sound well rehearsed.

    In summary, I don't have any trust in these guys, but I'm still waiting to see if they fix their product enough for me to use it properly. I think their method will work but it's disappointing that they don't provide you with the exact details on how to execute it properly. I also hated all the upsell. They used really weird voices in them which sounded weak, needy and unsure of themselves. They said things like "how can this not work? How it this not the best idea ever?" without any conviction. It was very worrisome, yet I almost bought into it today. But I won't.
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    • Profile picture of the author JGK
      Originally Posted by Mechatronix View Post

      It's related to list building and affiliate marketing. I do think their method has some cool points to it, but for the newbie it's too hard to execute due to their poor videos and explanation.
      I wondered if you could just summarize what the technique is....from what people have said it appears to be:

      1-Do KW research
      2-Find good exploitable niches
      3-Build a wordpress (direct?) site around those KWs but focus on a lead capture page (using some form of free report?) to build a nice list
      4-Emailing the lists various offers? which brings in the reported 7500 a day
      Is that it or am I way off the mark?

      BTW I think Market Samurai does most of what I saw in the video embedded in one of these posts including a "competing pages" filter.
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    • Profile picture of the author JMSD
      Originally Posted by Mechatronix View Post

      It's related to list building and affiliate marketing. I do think their method has some cool points to it, but for the newbie it's too hard to execute due to their poor videos and explanation.

      I bought this product when it came out and I'm probably going to return it before the 60 day refund period is up. I'm just waiting to see if they manage to turn themselves around and fix the problems they've got.

      Firstly, the videos are bad. As mentioned above, one of them didn't even work properly since the sound was missing. It doesn't inspire a lot of trust in them when you know that they haven't even tested their product before releasing it. They did fix the sound, but there are more problems.

      They use Market Samurai in their videos. I don't have Market Samurai. They say that you can use their included program instead (called SAT) however they don't provide information on how you are able to supplement SAT for MS. Market Samurai does things that SAT can't. There is a short video on how to use SAT, but it does not cover how it can completely replace MS.

      They provide action steps - instructions of exactly what to do step by step - however they aren't clear for this section. Not specific enough in terms of keyword research.

      Not being able to use MS is crucial because it means you can't do the necessary keyword research needed to proceed to the following steps. I could probably work out the best keywords to use on my own, but the fact is that they don't give you step by step instructions for this part unless you have MS. This really annoyed me. They are slow to reply to their support emails as well.

      The videos are also just structured bad. They jump around and they don't sound well rehearsed.
      I'm not sure why you have such a negative view of the product. Have you been back since you signed up to it? If so, you'd see that all the videos are now very clear (no whispering, etc) and the volume and speed are fine, too. I can be hyper-critical of marketers if their products don't come up to scratch or the delivery of it leaves a lot to be desired and early impression was not good. However, the volume problems were dealt with promptly and all was well.

      I don't know what you were expecting but at $37 for four long video tutorials and a super keyword software and software tuition video (in "Software" tab) on the members' area, I'd say a bargain was had by all purchasers.

      I do agree, though, that for absolutely new marketers who don't know how to do the basics (build a site, ftp, autoresponder, etc, etc), then their explanation could be seen as skimming over the surface. But the principles being taught are first rate.

      I don't recall any claims made that this was going to be a comprehensive course on site-building, how to set up an autoresponder and email series (they provide the emails to load and squeeze page templates, though).

      You DON'T have to have Market Samurai, at all, unless you want to. The part that Market Samurai does before the keywords are imported into the MMM software (SAT), you can do just as well using Google's keyword selection tool and this is demo-ed in detail in the training videos (you can get more than 100 keywords, if you log into your AdWords account). Depending upon your choice of niche, this need not take more than a few minutes.

      Once my 500-800 keywords are downloaded as a .csv file, I sort out unwanted keywords in my exel spread sheet before importing the file into SAT and then I let it run after setting the parameters. I get on with other work while it performs its task.

      It pin-points profitable keywords for ranking high on Google so that you take advantage of free traffic.

      I did, however, encounter a problem today (I imported a huge keyword file) and it froze before completing its action. I wonder if I'd had it on for too long. Anyway, I'm going to drop Tech Support an email. Previous support emails have been answered within 48 hrs.

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      • Profile picture of the author JMSD
        Originally Posted by JMSD View Post


        I did, however, encounter a problem today (I imported a huge keyword file) and it froze before completing its action. I wonder if I'd had it on for too long. Anyway, I'm going to drop Tech Support an email. Previous support emails have been answered within 48 hrs.

        James
        As I suspected, it had an attack of major keyword indigestion! Worked fine, after a short rest! So no need for tech support.
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      • Profile picture of the author JMSD
        Originally Posted by JMSD View Post



        Once my 500-800 keywords are downloaded as a .csv file, I sort out unwanted keywords in my exel spread sheet before importing the file into SAT and then I let it run after setting the parameters. I get on with other work while it performs its task.



        James
        Need to correct the above. Weeding out of unwanted keywords before importing to SAT (Super Affiliate Technology), seemed to throw SAT into a sulk. Instead, I weed out unwanted keywords within Google's Keyword Selection Tool BEFORE I download the keywords to a csv file.

        Another tip which others may find useful is that I found it much quicker to download 100 keywords within each niche at a time to a csv file. Any list of keywords greater than that has SAT's non-too speedy action either stall or take all of five hours to complete the analysis of 800 keywords which is a bore.

        Notwithstanding that, it's a great little tool to use and it makes light work of something that used to take me days to complete. Within 15 minutes or so, I can have half a dozen or more high search volume, low competition keywords sifted through from each set of 100 keywords.

        Incidentally, after painfully enduring hours (2.5 hours!) of enforced viewing of umpteen upsell after purchasing the front end product at $37, I opted for the last-but one upsell - Mass Money Commission Bot. Anyone bought that and used it? Comments?

        By the way, Matt, I won't be buying another thing from you or any other marketer, for that matter, if I see a video sales pitch which does not also have an option immediately below the video to enable me to skip to the order page. I will also ask for an immediate refund if I'm not given the option on the first upsell page to go to the download page of the product I've already purchased.

        My time is valuable, so don't waste it as you did with this product sales pitch.


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  • Profile picture of the author maidmarion
    I bought it and I also bought the 5 already done for $197. I thought it would be easier to just plug them up. Of course, they are not unique, probably hundreds of these same ones are given to many! I haven't tried them out yet, still on middle of phase 3 video.
    I agree, the videos are a bit laborious and painful to go through! but there is some value there, especially for the new affiliate!

    At least there is a 60 day money back guarantee, if I try it and its not working, I'm sure I will get my money back!

    I did ask a question or 2 to support, and after a few days I received one message back! They are a bit slow, but did respond.

    I didn't buy the Traffic software, but would be interested to know if that works!
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    • Profile picture of the author The Blueprinter
      With a gravity of almost 2000 this most be a good product. But the launch date was 28 december so many people will maybe refund it when their not satisfied.
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    • Profile picture of the author JGK
      Originally Posted by maidmarion View Post

      I bought it and I also bought the 5 already done for $197. I thought it would be easier to just plug them up. Of course, they are not unique, probably hundreds of these same ones are given to many! I haven't tried them out yet, still on middle of phase 3 video...........!
      MaidMarion

      ....do you rob from the rich to give to the poor too?

      Could you outline what this MMM product is/does

      Ta much

      JK
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      • Profile picture of the author maidmarion
        To JKG ...

        '....do you rob from the rich to give to the poor too?
        Could you outline what this MMM product is/does?'

        Its a teaching guide, as explained by a few people. For the extra 10, 5 or 2 sites, you get the complete package, so you don't have to go out and look for keywords, do articles, find domain names etc, its all done for you.

        So, far I am enjoying the course, put together a wordpress site, configured it, and waiting to wade through the long videos again, to know what to do next!

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    • Profile picture of the author sanhal
      Originally Posted by maidmarion View Post

      I bought it and I also bought the 5 already done for $197. I thought it would be easier to just plug them up. Of course, they are not unique, probably hundreds of these same ones are given to many! I haven't tried them out yet, still on middle of phase 3 video.
      I agree, the videos are a bit laborious and painful to go through! but there is some value there, especially for the new affiliate!

      At least there is a 60 day money back guarantee, if I try it and its not working, I'm sure I will get my money back!

      I did ask a question or 2 to support, and after a few days I received one message back! They are a bit slow, but did respond.

      I didn't buy the Traffic software, but would be interested to know if that works!
      I have just been offered 10 done for you sites for $297 + tax or thereabouts. I wonder how many others have the same sites and how much is done for you. They didn't explain that at all. But, as you say you can ask for a refund if it does not work out.

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      • Profile picture of the author maidmarion
        To Sanhal

        Yes, probably they are giving the same templates to everyone! The thing that concerns me there is, if we all have the same articles, google doesn't see it as being original! We will all have different domains and keywords, so that is no problem.

        I think I will ask them this question, as Google will rank us poorly with the same content on our sites.

        Still, for the price and the training, it is quite good, and we can get our money back if its not working!

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      • Profile picture of the author Martin Brock
        Couldn't find a way to delete this..

        Will post a review of this if I find the time..
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  • Profile picture of the author allenjohn
    Hi - I think I will pass for the following reasons:

    1. The CB account is not new as claimed (opened in 2009).
    2. The CB account had a sale in November of $71 (so this proves this account has been used to promote other products).
    3. The video earnings proof is obviously to do with the product prelaunch and not by the methods taught in the product.
    4. Their Earnings Disclaimer states: "Examples in these materials are not to be interpreted as a promise or guarantee of earnings. Earning potential is entirely dependent on the person using our product, ideas, techniques and the effort put forth. We do not purport this as a "get rich scheme.""

    Call me an old cynic if you want but there are plenty of buyers of MMM on this thread. Anyone made any money yet? Anyone made the $7.5K per day yet?

    Please let us know. Thanks, Allen
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul18
    Hi,

    Any review on Traffic Evolution by Mr T. This is promoted by Adeel Chowdhry. Claim free traffic at the push of a button can make a lot of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author WilliamLark
    as an affiliate I have sold 24 copies in 5 days but have not purchased for myself but would love to here some results from people who are using this to see what kind of results they get.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
      Is this a good product at all
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Lindsay
    Just because a product is $37, it does not mean it is not worth it or will not work.

    Heck.... how many WSO's have been bought from here for less than that, which are epic?

    How much FREE software is given away that is also epic? (TrafficTravis anyone?).

    Truth is.... $37 usually overall makes more than a higher price (when still talking below the $100 range) product.

    So, if you had a really tops product, with a solid COMPLIMENTARY upsell flow, chances are you would help more people and make more sales if you split test it on a lower price.

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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Lindsay
    btw...

    We didn't promote the product as right now we are focusing on just giving some super quality information and getting back in touch again with our customers and list.

    BUT I can tell you this.

    I know both Matt & Alen personally and for well over a year now.

    Alen is the damn smartest conversions and copy person I have probably ever met, his brain is practically hard-wired for it, yes he makes a lot too.

    Matt has extremely grounded customer loyalty programs and really stands by it heavily, he's gone through and re-invented himself many times and from a marketing perspective he also is one of the best I've seen.

    False scarcity etc.... yeah you will find it there.... is it right, not for me to judge on.

    I follow Gary's train of thought.

    Everywhere I go..... there is false scarcity in real life...

    Go down to your car dealership.... see how many times he sais he can give you a really good special for today only, its available only for today.

    Go back tomorrow.... see if you get the same... you will

    The liquidation market has it going on too "Closing Down Sale" then they re-open and have another closing down sale (actually usually an opening sale then a closing down again).

    But.... put a bunch of smart marketers in a group and of course we are going to call BS.

    Heck I make a habbit of doing it when I'm out and a bout also, its a bit of fun with salespeople.

    "Today only got this baby on special"

    "Oh thats awesome, is that the today only special everyday?"

    "uuhh,uuhhh have you seen the size of the screen"

    lol

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    • Profile picture of the author livo
      I have just bought the program but i think the videos are a little overlong.

      But at $37 and a 60 day money back guarantee i don`t think you can go wrong.

      The other day i had a call personally from Matt but after about 30 seconds the call suddenly cut off.Matt never called back?
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      • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
        Does anybody have a review? cant find one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Calvin Tan
    Is it really possible to make $ using MMM methods? I need to contact the support in the download page as to send payment to through their paypal email address as clickbank cant accept my credit card.

    It will be gd of someone can share the download page with me as I am curious about the product.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
      The only people who will be making money with the MMM methods are the creators. A million dollars in 10 days or so is pretty sweet. You should all congratulate yourselves for making them even richer.
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    has anyone had any luck with MMM? cos CB wont approve that listing when they see CB figures on a person's site, they will ask you for your account details to verify that the earnings one claims is the truth or not. and since MMM is advertising right in the members area of CB, it must work?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jamie Lewis
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      has anyone had any luck with MMM? cos CB wont approve that listing when they see CB figures on a person's site, they will ask you for your account details to verify that the earnings one claims is the truth or not. and since MMM is advertising right in the members area of CB, it must work?
      Yep, your damn right. CB is very careful and verifies everything. But aside from CB's verification process and placement of that ad, all one needs to know is Matt personally and you'll know he's the real deal.

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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis View Post

        Yep, your damn right. CB is very careful and verifies everything. But aside from CB's verification process and placement of that ad, all one needs to know is Matt personally and you'll know he's the real deal.

        Jamie
        From what I've heard MMM is indeed a legitimate product. Unfortunately, with the "scams" that get launched in the same space with legit products, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

        Especially when legitimate product creators also promote the trash.
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  • Profile picture of the author maidmarion
    Still on Phase 3, working on wordpress blog! Will let you know how I go!
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    Any one out there who is earning already from this product? Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author maidmarion
    Will let you know when I reach the end of the course. Having trouble putting correct code on autoresponder!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamaican2011
    No matter which upsell you purchase, their sites are not plug and playy

    u still have to view the videos, especially videos 3 thru to 4, to follow all the instructions to building your site

    I had bought this but got back my refund

    I had bought the US$97 upsell, with 3 "sites" , thinking they were ready done sites, only to find out I still had to build my own site. IN the upsell videos, it gave ME the impression I would not have to build sites but.... how foolish I was

    I promptly asked back for my US$97 and got it back!

    Those upsell videos are kinda tricky, so please make sure you understand what u getting

    you still gotta build your own websites !!! I got the impression they were ready-made sites they giving us links to
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  • Profile picture of the author Droopy Dawg
    The upsell videos are EXTREMELY annoying... I'm trying to buy in now for the keyword software but man this is painful. I'm on upsell vid #3.

    I think I have this issue with people reading slides to me as if I'm an idiot and can't read them for myself...
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  • Profile picture of the author ellia
    My review of Mass Money Makers... the good and the very bad.

    I bought this product just under a week ago and requested a refund today. I have spent hundreds on WSOs and other reports and never refunded a single one, even though many haven't been exactly what I was looking for... this though? Wow.

    I will admit that for absolute beginners, this course will give you all the basics on how to start a business in IM. It's a great foundation for those interested in building websites and learning a bit about SEO and list building. However, it is most definitely not a get rich quick scheme and "you can do it in 13 clicks" is the biggest lie I have ever seen.

    It took me nearly three days to get through the videos, of which the quality is shocking. It's so blurry and poorly thought out that I quite literally had a pounding headache after an hour. The guys have not scripted this at all. Most of the conversation is "umm, like err... ummm... yeah, like umm" and the most basic of details are gone over multiple times, yet the juicy bits are often skimmed over.

    The software program included in the program is so buggy, it won't work for many people (just look at the reviews online!). While I managed to get it running, it took 7 hours to process 500 keywords and would typically stop halfway through and just freeze up, requiring the entire process to be restarted. It doesn't do anything that you can't do yourself with Google tools, and if you're feeling lazy (like me!) There are multiple free/trial programs available that do the same thing, faster and better.

    While I do think that you can make money with this method and use the information that's included to improve your processes or begin new and profitable ones, you most definitely are NOT going to make what they're saying from a single website in a week. Hell, I doubt a newbie would make what they're saying from multiple websites in a year. Their sales page info is bordering on outright lies.

    Following their directions exactly, I created my first website using their method. Putting it together and setting up the "automation" took me an entire day (and I have a background in web development) You're also going to want to enjoy writing a LOT of unique content and articles or be willing to pay to outsource it.

    Overall, the ideas are really good, but could have been easily compressed into two hours worth of video max. (You'd think that people making so much money would have had the decency to at least record a video that doesn't set of migraines) But although the ideas are sound, there wasn't much in there that I didn't know (and i'm a massive newbie, i've only been in IM for 4 months now)

    Ultimately, if you're looking for a guide to setting up your own website to collect email addresses, you might enjoy this product. It does have a lot of good info in it particularly for very new newbies... but seriously... you're going to need an asprin or two to help you get through it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronr
      I haven't bought anything from him and never will. I must have opted in to his mailing list at some point and now I can't get off it so I keep getting those stupid emails:

      Congratulations ...! You got an affiliate sale!

      I've tried to opt out several times but I keep getting them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carol_A
    The upsells made me think I didn't make that great of a choice buying the original product to begin with.

    I bought it for the fantastic bonus/prize the affiliate was offering......QUADRUPLE the value of $37, and money I was ALREADY spending that I will be saving monthly now. yay!

    I was watching the training videos, then got sidetracked by something much more exciting!
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  • Profile picture of the author maidmarion
    Carol

    What was the exciting thing which caught your eye?

    It is very easy to get sidetracked! Thats why no one yet has finished this course, and can say, yes it worked or not it didn't!!!
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    Emmmm do you have sites up ???
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  • Profile picture of the author Droopy Dawg
    Hello all,

    Its been a while since I've been to this thread but I see a couple people having the same problem with the software as I had with editing/saving the parameters.

    I may be a little late, but for anyone that doesn't know this... if you are using Vista or Windows 7 you will need to use the executable that's in your "Program Files" folder (C:\Program Files\SAT) rather than the desktop icon. You will need to right-click this file, then "run as administrator" in order to open the app so that you can save the parameters once you edit them.

    I've had other programs that wouldn't allow me to do anything unless I did this, so I can't really fault the MMM guys here... this one's on Microsoft.

    Hope that helps,

    DeShon
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