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Click n' Bank reviews?

by neodarth
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Any one has test this new Click n' bank?

Seems to be a script and is launched by Tim Bekker and Jesse Regan.

Its look too good to be true, and call me skeptic but has all the red flags from recent launches even though they claim to be against those launches.

I'll appreciate any review and opinion about it
#bank #click #reviews
  • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
    Just got this email as well. I will probably buy it and test it soon
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    According to the affiliate page there are 3 upsells

    Upsell 1: $37/ MRecurring WHCC Autopilot

    Upsell 2: $127-197 PRO Upgrade

    Upsell 3: $97-127 Script Skin Package

    But no clue about what the money making script does...
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    Just brought it, will be testing out today and tomorrow give you a review when I can.
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Buckley
      Yup just bought it to review it. Will post when i get it all set up
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        Just downloaded it...it's a "viral affiliate page creator" <------- That's what the script is

        It looks like it also comes with some training...maybe on how to get affiliates, or product creation? I'm not sure, but for most, the value I'm assuming will be in the training if they aren't already into product creation...I don't think I have time to go through it though, so I don't have any input or review on it.

        I just wanted to see what the script was.
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        • Profile picture of the author wrays
          Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

          Just downloaded it...it's a "viral affiliate page creator" <------- That's what the script is
          Hi Jeremy, so the script is actually designed for product owners; not for affiliates who are selling affiliate products for commissions, right?
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
            Originally Posted by wrays View Post

            Hi Jeremy, so the script is actually designed for product owners; not for affiliates who are selling affiliate products for commissions, right?
            yeah, I think so...I didn't read everything except for a couple pages. I more or less bought it because I saw people asking about it, but here is what was said:

            What is Click n Bank?

            "it's a viral affiliate page creator"

            I guess that could be a couple of different things, but looking at it in context, it looked like it was for product owners...i could definitely be wrong though.
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            • Profile picture of the author alfrescoid
              There's a $10 exit discount...so $27...

              Anyone know if it's related to Tim Bekker's "Whitehat Copycat 2" product?
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              • Profile picture of the author coffeediva
                Originally Posted by alfrescoid View Post

                There's a $10 exit discount...so $27...

                Anyone know if it's related to Tim Bekker's "Whitehat Copycat 2" product?
                I purchased this and could not get it to work. It is the exact same product as the Whitehat Copy 2 product. They have not even bothered to change the training documentation to reflect the new name of clicknbank. I returned Whitehat copycat 2 and also this clicknbank. I had about 3,000 emails and now I know why. They need to pay dollars to sell the thing and all the while building their lists. This sucker will be sucked in No More
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    Well... I hope it's not that kind of squeeze pages that send you to another squeeze page and to another, to finish on Tim Bekker's site... because is really annoying.
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  • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
    So I have had a while to check it out now and it's not my "sort of thing" - That might not make sense but let me explain. The product is poorly set up, it took me a few minutes to find sign ups and I found the structure of the site poor. Anyway that doesn't matter if the product is good I guess, but it is not. I think that when say all these claims, you need to make a video course or a course that says read this, download this, read this, do this. But it is not. It is all over the place.

    2 hours later, I cannot really comment on how well the systems worked because I didn't do them but If I am honest, I would say that you should give this product a miss.
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  • Profile picture of the author Art Turner
    OK, so this is to get affiliates to sell your own Clickbank products, not a script that helps you make money on CB as an affiliate? The claims make a little more sense in that light.
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    • Profile picture of the author jprano
      It'd be sure nice if the sales page explained what the script actually can do.
      They are giving out big bonuses to JV's with a cap of only 199 members.


      They certainly claim they are different from all the other product creators b.s that has been blasted out. Who can figure?
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      • Profile picture of the author Focused Action
        I just read the sale page and have zero clue as to what the script does - there are no example/demo sites - no explanation of the business model - product creators are really getting angry at the high refund rates but you are asking us to buy some unknown product producing an unknown site selling an unknown product to a ...........:confused:
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by curtroese View Post

          I just read the sale page and have zero clue as to what the script does - there are no example/demo sites - no explanation of the business model - product creators are really getting angry at the high refund rates but you are asking us to buy some unknown product producing an unknown site selling an unknown product to a ...........:confused:
          You know what's even better?

          After you buy it, one of the upsells is a "pro version" which costs something like 4X the cost or something....it allows you to use it on unlimited domains whereas the original purchase only allows 1 domain...

          I looked at the upsell, and was trying to decide whether to get it, then thought to myself...what the hell is it? lol - I realized that they were actually asking me to buy a pro version to something that I didn't even know what it was...kind of laughed about that for a second.

          I'm not going to refund it because the script does look useful, but to be honest, I would have bought it AND PROBABLY BOUGHT THE UPGRADE HAD I KNOWN WHAT IT WAS.

          These launches are crazy lately with all the income claims etc etc and the expectation that we will buy things that we don't know what they are...nuts.

          On a related note, i heard that clickbank was going to in the future start deleting or deactivating products in the marketplace that got over a certain refund percentage...I would assume that either sales pages are going to change drastically or paydotcom is going to get real popular real quick.
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          • Profile picture of the author wrays
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            On a related note, i heard that clickbank was going to in the future start deleting or deactivating products in the marketplace that got over a certain refund percentage...I would assume that either sales pages are going to change drastically or paydotcom is going to get real popular real quick.
            Hallelujah to this!
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          • Profile picture of the author atxadmin
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            You know what's even better?

            ....it allows you to use it on unlimited domains whereas the original purchase only allows 1 domain...
            Yeah, that's what Bekker pulled with his "Whitehat Copycat" thing ...really irked me that you don't find out it's only good for one "application," so to speak, unless you cough up more money, until AFTER you've bought the thing. Great salesmanship. Not a new tactic, I know, but irritating nonetheless. Nevermore.
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            • Profile picture of the author tigertale
              I can review it because I didn't buy it. Because (1) They don't tell you what the product does. (2) They lie. When you leave the page, get the pop in and click cancel, you get a $10.00 off - if you act fast as there are only 3 left on that OTO. A full day later there were still only 3 left. Not possible.
              (3) Only 199 copies? Then why are they offering all these insentives to promote it? Sounds like phoney scarcity to me. (4) High Alexa rank for Tim Bekker's page, maybe, but Google only ranks it at 1 - not that has to do much with how good the product is. (4) They say they are not scammers. Yet look at the affiliate page and the upsells. They don't tell you about any of that in the sales letter.

              I'll pass.
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              • Profile picture of the author teak99
                Originally Posted by tigertale View Post

                I can review it because I didn't buy it. Because (1) They don't tell you what the product does. (2) They lie. When you leave the page, get the pop in and click cancel, you get a $10.00 off - if you act fast as there are only 3 left on that OTO. A full day later there were still only 3 left. Not possible.
                (3) Only 199 copies? Then why are they offering all these insentives to promote it? Sounds like phoney scarcity to me. (4) High Alexa rank for Tim Bekker's page, maybe, but Google only ranks it at 1 - not that has to do much with how good the product is. (4) They say they are not scammers. Yet look at the affiliate page and the upsells. They don't tell you about any of that in the sales letter.

                I'll pass.

                Could not have put it better myself.

                After Matt Bacak's Mass Money Makers product launch (which I might add is a very good product apparently) I unsubscribed from a heap of Guru Marketer's lists for the exact reasons as mentioned above.

                I do not know why they use all the BS in their sales pitches (well, I do really), but it has to hurt them in the long run.

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              • Profile picture of the author hh66
                Originally Posted by tigertale View Post

                I can review it because I didn't buy it. Because (1) They don't tell you what the product does. (2) They lie. When you leave the page, get the pop in and click cancel, you get a $10.00 off - if you act fast as there are only 3 left on that OTO. A full day later there were still only 3 left. Not possible.
                (3) Only 199 copies? Then why are they offering all these insentives to promote it? Sounds like phoney scarcity to me. (4) High Alexa rank for Tim Bekker's page, maybe, but Google only ranks it at 1 - not that has to do much with how good the product is. (4) They say they are not scammers. Yet look at the affiliate page and the upsells. They don't tell you about any of that in the sales letter.

                I'll pass.
                Thank you for that review on this appalling
                and highly misleading offer.

                This type of promotion may make them some
                money in the short term, and it may even be
                true that their product is is useful in some way,
                but they are still lying!

                ...and it's not a very good defence for them to
                say "well, this is just how products are promoted
                these days on the web".

                No, it's not how!..

                I can only hope the people who bought in to this
                are currently refunding it to the moon and back...

                Cheers,
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          • Profile picture of the author rkcc4
            Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

            You know what's even better?

            After you buy it, one of the upsells is a "pro version" which costs something like 4X the cost or something....it allows you to use it on unlimited domains whereas the original purchase only allows 1 domain...

            I looked at the upsell, and was trying to decide whether to get it, then thought to myself...what the hell is it? lol - I realized that they were actually asking me to buy a pro version to something that I didn't even know what it was...kind of laughed about that for a second.

            I'm not going to refund it because the script does look useful, but to be honest, I would have bought it AND PROBABLY BOUGHT THE UPGRADE HAD I KNOWN WHAT IT WAS.

            These launches are crazy lately with all the income claims etc etc and the expectation that we will buy things that we don't know what they are...nuts.

            On a related note, i heard that clickbank was going to in the future start deleting or deactivating products in the marketplace that got over a certain refund percentage...I would assume that either sales pages are going to change drastically or paydotcom is going to get real popular real quick.
            Heres a tip, when you see these squeeze page upsells that offer you a once in a lifetime opportunity don't sweat it, they will offer it later, they always do. However, just in case you are worried, right click the link and "copy link location" then paste this into notepad. You now have a link you can use anytime.

            Of course they offered it later, I do think it is a bit sneaky offering the unlimited version at a higher price, need to check the video again to make sure they did not promise unlimited use in the original price.

            By now we all know to open the add to cart links in new tabs, then close the window to see the reduced price, then check if they are offering less. For example on the upsells they start off selling a bunch of themes and when you decline they offer just one.

            Sad sod that I am I always make PDF's of all of the offers and upsells, it is all part of the learning experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author edge83
    I got this from Dan Brock's email list, and his thing is all about Affiliate marketing.

    But, this really does seem, I think? to be about if you have your OWN product. Even though the video sales page is completely unclear and in fact stresses that they are affiliate marketers.

    I bought it, read all the pdf setups and still have no idea what the hell it is (unless it really is as simple as it seems), because it appears to be nothing more than a visual template format.. possibly with some auto responding, and built in buttons to share it on facebook/twitter/etc. It just automates creating a good landing page and possibly email capture page from what I see. But you will have to put all logos etc in yourself (find or create them I guess), and install all of this on the mysql database, etc., do all content yourself- nothing different and it actually doesn't seem like it would be faster than making a page that looks great in wordpress with the speed I can do it in now.

    The training appears to just be zipped up pdf files from other people and guides.I downloaded a few and they don't seem specifically related to the script.

    WITHIN the members area it's lots of ads and affiliate offers for them.

    I'm not seeing anything that will automate any aspect of site building except visual, and I think they are actually saying that the "viral" aspect of the page are the little share on twitter and facebook buttons.

    I'm figuring out how to get a clickbank refund (i've never done before) and am bailing on this IMMEDIATELY.
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  • Profile picture of the author edge83
    I am open to being completely corrected on what I'm about to say. I have however, bought quite a few IM guides and products through clickbank, almost all costing more than this one did.

    This is probably the most extreme example I've ever seen of someone pushing so hard that they are "different than all the BS," then being the worst culprit of it for anything i've seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt James
      These launches are crazy lately with all the income claims etc etc and the expectation that we will buy things that we don't know what they are...nuts.
      And yet you bought it Jeremy

      As a copywriter in the IM niche, I keep an eye on all these launches and the funny thing about the blind copy fad of recent times is... more people are complaining about them and yet more people are buying too.

      Weird.

      On a related note, i heard that clickbank was going to in the future start deleting or deactivating products in the marketplace that got over a certain refund percentage...I would assume that either sales pages are going to change drastically or paydotcom is going to get real popular real quick.
      This already happens. I know of one marketer who was kicked off Clickbank because of a 47% refund rate.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Anyone know who James Yii is?

        Just wondered because he sent me an email about this product too, the owners of the product maybe interested in his methods of getting people to click through to the site, here's the email I just got from this James Yii...

        Subject You just earned $10 from Click n Bank

        Hello Rich,

        Great news, you have just earned a $10.00 Bonus for Click N Bank

        ==> I've removed the link that was here
        Bonus Granted By : Jesse Regan
        Total Bonus Discount : $10.00

        You may claim the $10 bonus through this page.

        ==>and I've removed the link from here too.
        Cheers,

        Peter and James.
        Very cleverly worded to make it seem like you're about to get $10 where as in fact it's just the $10 thats taken off the price at the end of the sales copy.

        I unsubscribed, not that I actually thought I had subscribed. Mind you it took 5 minutes to scroll down all the way past the white space to get to an unsubscribe link.

        I don't know Jesse and Tim, so I couldn't comment on them but I'm not convinced this is the best way for affiliates to get people to the site.

        Before anyone says "well it made you click on the link", no it didn't, I thought the mail was spam and was interested in what the spammer was doing. I chose to click on it.

        Either way, it put me right off the sales page the way the affiliate got me there....So I didn't even read it.

        I did like the opening line though...

        Congratulations, somehow, someway, you landed on this page!
        ....Especially in light of how I did land on the page. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author homejobcreator
          Yeah, Richard Van, I got the same email from James Y, but unsubscribed immediately, only to go to the sales page when I got an email from Dan Brock promoting it. I wonder why Dan is promoting it ...
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by homejobcreator View Post

            Yeah, Richard Van, I got the same email from James Y, but unsubscribed immediately, only to go to the sales page when I got an email from Dan Brock promoting it. I wonder why Dan is promoting it ...
            Hi Homejobcreator,

            I couldn't comment on the product, like I said I didn't even bother reading the sales page. The email was pretty crap though. I have no idea how I even got on the guys list so I thought he was spamming me.

            Problem is, even if he built that list his unsubscribe rate today must have been astronomical. Why on earth, anyone would send an email like that to their list is beyond me. If this is what the affiliates got from the owners of the product, to send out to their lists, they're no better either. Having said that I just assume it's that James Yii guy not having a clue what he's doing. He will have learned now though.
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            Originally Posted by homejobcreator View Post

            Yeah, Richard Van, I got the same email from James Y, but unsubscribed immediately, only to go to the sales page when I got an email from Dan Brock promoting it. I wonder why Dan is promoting it ...
            Probably because Tim is one of the top JVs in his Deadbeat Super Affiliate launch back in November. That's the "rule" if you create an IM related product and want to get lots of JVs promoting it. If you don't promote others, then others won't promote you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jackaroo
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Anyone know who James Yii is?

          Just wondered because he sent me an email about this product too, the owners of the product maybe interested in his methods of getting people to click through to the site, here's the email I just got from this James Yii...



          Very cleverly worded to make it seem like you're about to get $10 where as in fact it's just the $10 thats taken off the price at the end of the sales copy.

          I unsubscribed, not that I actually thought I had subscribed. Mind you it took 5 minutes to scroll down all the way past the white space to get to an unsubscribe link.

          I don't know Jesse and Tim, so I couldn't comment on them but I'm not convinced this is the best way for affiliates to get people to the site.

          Before anyone says "well it made you click on the link", no it didn't, I thought the mail was spam and was interested in what the spammer was doing. I chose to click on it.

          Either way, it put me right off the sales page the way the affiliate got me there....So I didn't even read it.

          I did like the opening line though...



          ....Especially in light of how I did land on the page. :rolleyes:
          Great place to discuss this rubbish ... "if you already earn over $8000 etc ... this is not for you." and all the suggestions that you click out ... hype if ever there was ... sort of negative hype hoping for a positive result ... heard him through his poor presentation ... a bunch of slides of text that he may well as have written in a sales page. Just got this e-mail today, recon that if you deleted cookies and went in tomorrow as if it was the first time, it would still be offering the last 30 copies. Thanks to those of you who have chanced to buy ... hope you get your refund.
          What's the deal about, "There's a $10 exit discount...so $27.." ? absolutely no mention of that when he mentioned the 60 day money back guarantee ... "if for any reason you find this is not for you ... email me and I will immediately issue a refund". This is criminal activity it seems.
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  • Profile picture of the author edge83
    I emailed their help desk last night for a refund.. here is the response.. sigh, I hope they don't continue avoiding it:

    --------------------------------

    Thank you for purchasing CLICK n BANK !


    Please proceed to the following link to redeem your order ==>

    CLICK n BANK --

    clicknbank-codeready

    OR

    if you already signed up there, please create your account here:

    Client Panel - SmartAffiliateSite v1.0



    We wish you all the best with the use of your BRAND NEW product!


    To your success!


    Tim Bekker & Team
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    • Profile picture of the author wrays
      Originally Posted by edge83 View Post

      I emailed their help desk last night for a refund.. here is the response.. sigh, I hope they don't continue avoiding it:
      Why email them for refund?

      You should email Clickbank dude!
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      • Profile picture of the author edge83
        Originally Posted by wrays View Post

        Why email them for refund?

        You should email Clickbank dude!
        Thanks- I did that as well, but I've never done a refund before so i wasn't sure who is supposed to handle it
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        • Profile picture of the author MarioSotojr
          you can just go to the inquiry page of clickbank and get your refund or in the email from the initial purchase there is a link for your clickbank order that will take you right to it. Clickbank is really good with refunds.
          - ClickBank
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          • Profile picture of the author edaesq
            The sales page has a strong "anti-guru" theme, calling them thieves and liars, etc. Certainly that's not true.
            In any event, look at the "Affiliates" page for this product. There is a certain .... how shall I put this.... disconnect between the content of the sales page and the affiliate page.

            I also unsubscribed from the list of the guy who e-mailed me about this product. Good guy, with his own good products. But if he sends me stuff like this, it screams: "I make recommendations to help me, not you the subscriber."
            That's a crummy way to treat your list, in my humble opinion.
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              • Profile picture of the author jimojeda
                Here's what really bothered me.

                In the last couple of minutes of the video he claims...

                * This is a One Time Charge

                * No BS Terms and Conditions

                * NO HIDDEN UPGRADES

                * Just The Opportunity To Get This Script working to make you 24/7 profits!

                Then I read here that it's a very limited piece of garbage and the guy tries to upsell/upgrade you to a "full" copy!

                What a liar!

                I for one am NOT buying this thing.

                Sincerely,

                Jaime
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              • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
                Originally Posted by dfrerking View Post

                Yea, several credible folks such as Craig Kaye and Dan Brock, among others, have the JV route as part of their business strategy. Promoting such rubbish will definitely have an effect on their credibility
                Unfortunately, no it won't. That's because there is some desperate soul or "instant riches" seeker born every single day. In this economy probably hundreds of them. They know this, and therefore becomes part of their marketing strategy.

                I will say this for these guys, whomever writes their copy is damn good!
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        • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
          Originally Posted by edge83 View Post

          Thanks- I did that as well, but I've never done a refund before so i wasn't sure who is supposed to handle it
          If you call them, it is super quick,no questions asked. I am sure they are used to people wanting refunds!
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    the only reason I think I should burn out my list is because is promoted through CBLeads and pay $1 per lead...

    But this should be the end of my list...
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  • Profile picture of the author jprano
    Wow, it's amazing how they are getting away with this marketing strategy.

    I guess there are new people entering the marketplace everyday and majority are
    not fortunate to be on this forum.....too bad. However, CB is monitoring refunds more carefully and product creators are becoming more aware of this...so let's see if there's any significant quality products and sales page wsiwyg coming soon.
    I wonder.
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    There has been too much products like these being promoted. I have unsubscribed to many lists because they promote stuff like these.
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  • Profile picture of the author jdjenkins
    I went through the upgrades etc and bought the Pro system and the templates. I have now submitted refund requests via Clickbank for all 3 purchases.
    The system does appear to be aimed at building an affiliate sales team for people with their own products, but even after reading through the PDFs you only get a vague idea of the applications for the script. Some example sites would have been good - particularly before trying to sell us the Pro upgrade - as has been mentioned before!
    It probably is a very useful tool for some people, but not for me at present.

    Jon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
      Seems like no one has any idea what this course is about or what the script does but were more than happy to part with their money.
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      • Profile picture of the author atxadmin
        Originally Posted by sorrellaff View Post

        Seems like no one has any idea what this course is about or what the script does but were more than happy to part with their money.
        We're a curiosity-based society and marketers, especially us Internet marketers are always looking for techniques that work. The small price of many of these products almost makes it like a buying another lesson in marketing.

        Unfortunately, many of these offers are specifically crafted to confuse the buyer (just look at this "Click N-Bank" thing) and even more experienced marketers can become more intrigued with how the salespage actually relates to the end product and will buy strictly to gain that insight. Fortunately for me, many of you saved me the time and disappointment of dealing with a downright silly offer!
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  • Profile picture of the author mtntgr
    i think this productlaunch is about the same thing
    all the other recent blind launches have been about -
    NAKED GREED

    if something is so good (and so advanced), 2 things would be true -
    • you would want to show what it actually does
    • it would take some time (if ever) to reverse-engineer it
    so there really is no excuse for this kind of thing, except -
    NG

    how long can it be before the FTC (and CB?) are all over these practices like a dog on a bone...

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    and it follows if something is really worth it, people will be more than willing to pay more for it - without the slimy upsells, downsells, ad nauseum...
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  • Profile picture of the author edge83
    Interestingly, a friend of mine who is a very good programmer did create a script for he and myself to use when we first started learning this stuff using ebay partner network sites.. it automated tons of the work and could throw up the full functioning site with all the categories, tags, etc. just by plugging them in.. then you could paste the content. It didn't take him very long, but saved HOURS of work.

    I think that experience made it "logical" to me that if these guys really did invest in developing such a thorough script, it would do something like create a full site with all your meta tags, pages, categories etc (that you enter in of course), plug in the right amazon links, etc. Dan Brock sent it out as "do you hate building affiliate sites? here's one that will make it for you" - Of course you'd have to put in your own articles / content.

    It's nothing like that at all.. it doesnt appear to even have anything to do with that, it's just a purely visual format for a landing page, with a lengthy and process involving the sql database and getting a "license" from them every time you use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dexterfulton
    Does anyone have a legitimate product for $37/$27? I'm curious to see who has bought a product in this price range that delivers the goods. If so, is it still available. "Call Me Stupid", but I'm really curious.

    Seems to me -- if a product worked at this price, it would get bombarded with users and crash in a couple of weeks do to an algorithm change.
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    • Profile picture of the author edge83
      Originally Posted by dexterfulton View Post

      Does anyone have a legitimate product for $37/$27? I'm curious to see who has bought a product in this price range that delivers the goods. If so, is it still available. "Call Me Stupid", but I'm really curious.

      Seems to me -- if a product worked at this price, it would get bombarded with users and crash in a couple of weeks do to an algorithm change.
      Very pleased with two products I've bought in that price range, one from Dan Brock and the other was on media buys.. media traffic meltdown. I don't think it's the strategy for me at this stage in the game, but I think it is an excellent course that could make the right person a lot of money, very thorough and honest. The former is the first time I've taken on being an affiliate for a digital product, precisely because it was priced in that range and felt it was really great.
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    • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
      Originally Posted by dexterfulton View Post

      Does anyone have a legitimate product for $37/$27? I'm curious to see who has bought a product in this price range that delivers the goods. If so, is it still available. "Call Me Stupid", but I'm really curious.

      Seems to me -- if a product worked at this price, it would get bombarded with users and crash in a couple of weeks do to an algorithm change.
      Here's a Video from one of those $37 launches - My son sent it so I figured it would work and it does. There are four or five software programs that come pre-installed and ready to use. Their customer support is alive and well too. http://wealthlpp.com/autotraffic

      http://wealthlpp.com/speed <<-----My son sent me this one too. PLEASE, if you are an advanced PPC user, can you check this out and come back with whether you think this really automates hundreds or thousands of keywords for PPC Campaigns - I will get ADVANCED in the use of PPC real quick if this does what it claims.

      RE: There are strategies still being launched and sold right now that don't work "due to an algorithm change" and nobody believes it. The main - basic core product - for more than 1/2 of everything being sold has NO VALUE whatsoever as of 11-20-2010 People love that never-ending spin on the hamster wheel and refuse to get off.

      They won't give up the good fight until they realize #1) giving up is NOT failure and #2) STOP believing GuruBulls*it - they say "rich people never give up" - what a crock. Wealthy people don't spend time and money on what doesn't work. They NEVER QUIT GIVING UP and MOVING ON until they LEARN what does work.

      People who can't admit their mistakes or harbor feelings of guilt or fear of being wrong and never give up will eventually get tired and fail. QUITTING is failure. Anything else is a learning experience. Copywriters leave out the "move on" after telling you never give up instead of telling you the truth about what failure really means.

      Listen to what is NOT being said for best results! Why would they tell anyone to "give up and move on" when they need you to get past the refund period - if you give up YOU FAIL and that's a lie.
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      • Profile picture of the author currypuff
        This product is a re skinned version of Tim Bekker's "Whitehat Copycat 2" product. It automatically creates squeeze pages and they provide skins for that.

        The sales letter and video does an awful job of telling you what it is but you have to dig around and read forums to find out what it does.Also, the big missing piece is how to get enough traffic to these squeeze pages to make any money.

        This doesn't fit my business model so won't be much help so I won't even bother with it.
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        • Profile picture of the author dtmission
          Hey,

          you will find a good video review on this product on this site:

          DerrickVanDyke.com


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          • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
            Originally Posted by dtmission View Post

            Hey,

            you will find a good video review on this product on this site:

            DerrickVanDyke.com
            Yep, watched that - not impressed with the product and I am not sure why you need this "script" to promote a product when you can just write an article or blog post which will get much more traffic. Am I missing something? My verdict remains the same - bad sales page and now bad product. Thanks for this review though! That is the closest I think people will get to even knowing what the product does.
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            • Profile picture of the author neodarth
              Originally Posted by dtmission View Post

              Hey,

              you will find a good video review on this product on this site:

              DerrickVanDyke.com


              Regards

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              Well... that's clear up things a little bit more... nothing new under the sun... this can be done with wordpress and some free plugins... wonder if there can be a tip or two in the manual worth the investment...

              Originally Posted by halwitsweb View Post

              I will check it out and then comment on it.
              Well, I see you are from Chile. How is the weather there?
              Yup I'm from the butt's world. We have a nice weather 29 - 31 Cº nothing that hot that can't be solve with a good splashdown in the pool.
              Luckly me I don't have to wear a suit and tie anymore .
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      • Profile picture of the author atxadmin
        Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

        ...http://wealthlpp.com/speed <<-----My son sent me this one too. PLEASE, if you are an advanced PPC user, can you check this out and come back with whether you think this really automates hundreds or thousands of keywords for PPC Campaigns - I will get ADVANCED in the use of PPC real quick if this does what it claims...
        As I recall during the time I used Speed PPC and several of it's clones, it doesn't really "automate" very much. It takes data you've given it, then formats it into blocks you can copy and paste directly into Google's Adwords Desktop Tool. I do that now by entering my data into a spread sheet, then copy/paste into Google's desktop tool.

        The fact remains that YOU still have to do all the keyword research, YOU have to write the ads and YOU have to set up the display/destination URL's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
    Originally Posted by iAdvertise4You View Post

    ClickNBank is just a tweaked version of WHCC2

    What I like about it is that it is completely through in what it teaches. You get a 200 page ebook after all. You can set up a bunch of things on auto-pilot too with the software script. I have a full review in my signature.
    Interesting. Your "review" is pretty much cut and paste from their sales page, I highly doubt they

    "personally told me that they will not have this product up for more than 40 days. They're $10 off promotion doesn't last long either. It was strictly for the launch week. It is best you get a hold of Click N Bank as soon as possible."

    That article is clearly not an "honest" review. Ironically, you have another "review" on HubPages about a "copy and paste product!! That is classic.
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    • Profile picture of the author edge83
      Originally Posted by Julie McElroy View Post

      Interesting. Your "review" is pretty much cut and paste from their sales page, I highly doubt they

      "personally told me that they will not have this product up for more than 40 days. They're $10 off promotion doesn't last long either. It was strictly for the launch week. It is best you get a hold of Click N Bank as soon as possible."

      That article is clearly not an "honest" review. Ironically, you have another "review" on HubPages about a "copy and paste product!! That is classic.
      Thanks Julie- they were actually very quick with it through the site.

      Yeah, this "review" was pretty hilarious, especially in the context of the rest of this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Keithsco
    thanks guys. . . .did wonder what the deal was . . just another f grade movie huh . . failboat

    boy . . what are they thinking ???
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  • Profile picture of the author RaptorGabe
    I have not bought but I've looked over all the "selling" material and it just smells.....bad. Is it just me or launches getting more sketchy? Guess well see
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    • Profile picture of the author edge83
      I wonder if there is anything from a legal standpoint of saying you are only selling 199 copies of something if you have no intention of doing so. Probably not, but it'd be interesting if that were some type of false advertising on a legal level.
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      • Profile picture of the author atxadmin
        Originally Posted by edge83 View Post

        ..., but it'd be interesting if that were some type of false advertising on a legal level.
        Apparently little impeding this garbage. Just take a look at just about ANY page of msn.com for examples of ads mired in false advertising, one after another ...
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    • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
      Originally Posted by RaptorGabe View Post

      I have not bought but I've looked over all the "selling" material and it just smells.....bad. Is it just me or launches getting more sketchy? Guess well see
      They are getting more everything - whatever their target market will buy. They have a huge market, a never-ending supply of newbies they continuously add to their lists by the 100's every day. They buy once or twice and get replaced and only a percentage ask for a refund. How many of those are Warriors? Not many unless they choose to be on those lists just to see what their favorite guru is doing and even get some entertainment out of all these launches.

      Maybe all you Warriors should put your armor together and find out how to get those newbies on YOUR lists first and warn them of what is coming! That might be very profitable too. Think about it!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
        I signed up at the affiliates page for click n bank and got an update today revealing the course had sold over 12,000 units and grossed 500-600k in 4 days!!!

        I laughed a bit then nearly cried...
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        • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
          Originally Posted by sorrellaff View Post

          I signed up at the affiliates page for click n bank and got an update today revealing the course had sold over 12,000 units and grossed 500-600k in 4 days!!!

          I laughed a bit then nearly cried...
          LOL - WOW! That is everyone's hard earned money - I wonder if they are considering refunds in this.
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          • Profile picture of the author Chris Sorrell
            Originally Posted by Julie McElroy View Post

            LOL - WOW! That is everyone's hard earned money - I wonder if they are considering refunds in this.
            It's unlikely that they'll take refunds into account yet but judging by the obvious poor quality of the content I imagine the refund rate will be over the 20% mark. But still, 400k gross in a week for a couple of guys in their 20s is not a bad result.
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            • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
              Do you know how irritating 3-4 of those buzzing mosquitoes are when they won't go away? They just keep making loud noise and fly right by your face but you can never catch them?

              That's what the Warriors are to those daily launches. They wish you would go away and let the few who do see the noise you make in the search engines pass through and collect nothing if they finally pass go.

              You are not their target of any kind, you are the wrong audience and you are not their friend. YOU never will be. I bet that just makes your day, doesn't it?

              Figure out how to catch more newbies, okay?
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              • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
                Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

                That's what the Warriors are to those daily launches. They wish you would go away and let the few who do see the noise you make in the search engines pass through and collect nothing if they finally pass go.
                Not true at all. The Warrior Forum is one of their best and easiest targets. Yeah, there are some savvier people around but definitely not the majority. It's evident by how many people have trust in so many of these guys. Why? When it comes between you and their wallets they don't give a rat's ass about you, plain and simple.

                You don't see guys at ********** or BHW falling for these $37 "launches", but instead talking about SE Nuke, XRumer, DFB, and other tools and services that actually work. Wonder why...
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                • Profile picture of the author neodarth
                  Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

                  Not true at all. The Warrior Forum is one of their best and easiest targets. Yeah, there are some savvier people around but definitely not the majority. It's evident by how many people have trust in so many of these guys. Why? When it comes between you and their wallets they don't give a rat's ass about you, plain and simple.

                  You don't see guys at ********** or BHW falling for these $37 "launches", but instead talking about SE Nuke, XRumer, DFB, and other tools and services that actually work. Wonder why...
                  For every warrior that says "No way! this is BS!" there's two that secretely says "Yes I do want to believe!".
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            • Profile picture of the author rkcc4
              Originally Posted by sorrellaff View Post

              It's unlikely that they'll take refunds into account yet but judging by the obvious poor quality of the content I imagine the refund rate will be over the 20% mark. But still, 400k gross in a week for a couple of guys in their 20s is not a bad result.
              The metric I found interesting was the CB gravity compared with the number of subscribers as well as the % per rebill

              Avg $/sale: $25.86
              Initial $/sale: $23.60
              % per sale: 60.00 %
              Subscription $: $29.54
              % per rebill: 61.00 %
              Gravity: 655.20
              Subscribers: 8
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  • Profile picture of the author Julie McElroy
    Originally Posted by iAdvertise4You View Post

    Yeh to be truthful... ClickNBank is a scam
    Wow! I am very impressed with your integrity to come forward. Thanks for being honest!
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  • Profile picture of the author edge83
    Originally Posted by iAdvertise4You View Post

    Yeh to be truthful... ClickNBank is a scam
    Admirable of you to stop promoting the product and let others know this once you found out the dirty details.
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  • Profile picture of the author hitesh93
    Originally Posted by iAdvertise4You View Post

    Yeh to be truthful... ClickNBank is a scam
    Really? It seems more like now that this launch is concluding, you've jumped on to the next one - Copy Paste Traffic - which is another program you have zero chances of having actually reviewed. You're just repeating the same strategy with every major launch that comes up.
    Hope you can sleep at night.
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    Originally Posted by iAdvertise4You View Post

    Yeh to be truthful... ClickNBank is a scam
    I wouldn't use the word SCAM so lightly, unless you have purchased the product, understand it, test it, follow the steps and after a while didn't see any result or the script didn't work at all.

    Yeah... then it can be called a scam.

    OK, I agree that is one of those miss-led, super hyped up, $37 products.

    I agree that perhaps is not the kind of rich overnight product that was advertised and everybody is looking for.

    I agree that push the mind buttons bashing against gurus and try to sympathize with you.

    I agree that still this far to the thread there is still nobody that fully understand what the script does.

    Sorry even though there are tons of red flags in this product I wouldn't dare to call it scam... a bad product or a product I don't need sounds better.
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    • Profile picture of the author QuickSurf
      Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

      I wouldn't use the word SCAM so lightly, unless you have purchased the product, understand it, test it, follow the steps and after a while didn't see any result or the script didn't work at all.

      Yeah... then it can be called a scam.

      OK, I agree that is one of those miss-led, super hyped up, $37 products.

      I agree that perhaps is not the kind of rich overnight product that was advertised and everybody is looking for.

      I agree that push the mind buttons bashing against gurus and try to sympathize with you.

      I agree that still this far to the thread there is still nobody that fully understand what the script does.

      Sorry even though there are tons of red flags in this product I wouldn't dare to call it scam... a bad product or a product I don't need sounds better.
      I did some research and this product is laughable, all it is a relabeled version of an old script, heck the d-bag even kept the name the same on the download.. yet somehow he paid 25k for a script that was already available, nevermind 25k in India would get you a whole lot more then this bs lol. And the original script creator mentioned in this thread has a bad reputation himself.

      I know I've unsubscribed more lately now to "guru" list as all their doing is promoting crap products that I guarantee they know nothing about as I've questioned some and never heard back or got replies that didn't make sense lol. Had one guy out of nowhere start promoting a ton of forex stuff, when that d-bag doesn't know a single thing about forex as if he did he would have never been pushing the products that simply don't work and are scams themselves lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    To be honest, someone I trusted sent this to me.

    I looked. I was even almost hooked right up until they started talking about their programming team, who won the "Ebay Motors #1 Award"... WTF ???

    The only sites mentioning that award are those associated with this product.

    And why would Ebay Motors give away any award to a team of programmers? Don't they sell used cars?

    LOL

    I had to come to the forum to see if anyone could change the negative perception I had of this product.

    What I have found here has more than confirmed my suspicions...

    Thank you everyone...
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      LMFAO! Classic!

      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      To be honest, someone I trusted sent this to me.

      I looked. I was even almost hooked right up until they started talking about their programming team, who won the "Ebay Motors #1 Award"... WTF ???

      The only sites mentioning that award are those associated with this product.

      And why would Ebay Motors give away any award to a team of programmers? Don't they sell used cars?
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      To be honest, someone I trusted sent this to me.

      I looked. I was even almost hooked right up until they started talking about their programming team, who won the "Ebay Motors #1 Award"... WTF ???

      The only sites mentioning that award are those associated with this product.

      And why would Ebay Motors give away any award to a team of programmers? Don't they sell used cars?

      LOL

      I had to come to the forum to see if anyone could change the negative perception I had of this product.

      What I have found here has more than confirmed my suspicions...

      Thank you everyone...
      I'm sorry, but is this a joke?

      Why would eBay motors give out awards? Well, perhaps because they have thousands of outside software providers that tap into eBay's multiple API's to help automate the sales processes for their hundreds of thousands of vendors?

      Why would PayPal offer awards? Don't they just process transactions? Um... nope, they offer awards to developers too. Same with Amazon, Google, Yahoo, and thousands of other large companies that rely on third parties to create useful software tools for their clients that take advantage of the APIs.

      99% of eBay's customer base doesn't have the skillset, or the desire to program an automated system to keep track of parts on hand, and to deal with levels of inventory... that's where the third party software providers come in, and in order to help themselves, eBay, and other companies, offer these third parties some level of exposure to help them grow their brands.

      More people using a third party's software, means easier eBay motors listings, which means more money for eBay...

      You did one Google search, and determined that these guys are a scam? And this was based on the fact that your one search didn't return the specific press release these guys came across? And, it's also based on you not knowing, or even believing, that eBay would offer some type of recognition to the thousands of third party software vendors they rely on?

      Do you research, REAL research, before you start bashing people...

      You just made yourself look like a fool, while simultaneously hurting someone else's business because you didn't bother to do your research first. Nice work!

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Dolan
    Like about 80% of the CB launches it is poorly explained, guys there is a reason for that, poorly explained products equal minor updates of old products that you may already have, why they do that is to make quick money.

    There is a sufficiently large group of purchasers who are too lazy to get the refund.

    Every one of the poorly explained products I bought during the past few months (I bought like maybe you have out of curiosity to see what they actually are), all of them were rehashed products, I owned the previous version, or had tried it, and gave up.
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  • Profile picture of the author halwitsweb
    I will check it out and then comment on it.
    Well, I see you are from Chile. How is the weather there?
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    the training are both useful if that is the direction
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    • Profile picture of the author sappacis13
      Anybody can help me!

      Im planning to hit the buy now button w/ regards about the clicknbank.

      I felt so nervous. Is this a scam? or is this thing really tells the truth?

      Please help... Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author John Reed
        Originally Posted by sappacis13 View Post

        Anybody can help me!

        Im planning to hit the buy now button w/ regards about the clicknbank.

        I felt so nervous. Is this a scam? or is this thing really tells the truth?

        Please help... Thanks!

        I don't understand why you have asked this - haven't you read the comments that have already been stacking up?

        I looked in here because i couldn't believe that anything Tim Bekker was doing would be at all user friendly - seems I was right!
        I have bought from him before - the Whitehat Copycat and some software download control site. I got bombarded with an increasing mountain of emails and promotions with all sorts of odd payment timings that it was impossible to keep track of AND the directions and "Training" were absolutely CRAP!

        I won't be buying after reading the above comments, but I was most unlikely to anyway unless his partner had been well reported on for this product.

        I don't meant to get personal but in my experience at least you are well advised to check out anything from Tim Bekker as it is likely to be thrown together with little support (his "Helpdesk" tend to just refer you to their videos, which are almost indecipherable!).

        Thanks for the tips guys - Opt Out, Not IN!

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        • Profile picture of the author sappacis13
          Hey John!

          Thanks for the reply...

          I wont buy after all I read the comment.

          It was just how he entice people but like you said it's a darn crap thing.

          Thanks for advice.

          Take care and God Bless!





          Originally Posted by John Reed View Post

          I don't understand why you have asked this - haven't you read the comments that have already been stacking up?

          I looked in here because i couldn't believe that anything Tim Bekker was doing would be at all user friendly - seems I was right!
          I have bought from him before - the Whitehat Copycat and some software download control site. I got bombarded with an increasing mountain of emails and promotions with all sorts of odd payment timings that it was impossible to keep track of AND the directions and "Training" were absolutely CRAP!

          I won't be buying after reading the above comments, but I was most unlikely to anyway unless his partner had been well reported on for this product.

          I don't meant to get personal but in my experience at least you are well advised to check out anything from Tim Bekker as it is likely to be thrown together with little support (his "Helpdesk" tend to just refer you to their videos, which are almost indecipherable!).

          Thanks for the tips guys - Opt Out, Not IN!

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          • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
            I considered purchasing this to get some progress for the recent product I launched on Clickbank, but ClickNBank just doesn't pass the BS test, to me at least.

            I have read through all the reviews and discussions here, and for some reason that old episode of The Brady Bunch keeps going through my mind - caveat emptor - where Mike Brady teaches the Brady kids about this phrase, that means "let the buyer beware".

            With the recent explanation of Google's ranking algorithm combined with what people who do IM the right way, this just screams black hat to me. A lot of you probably follow Pat Flynn and listen to his podcasts - compare this product with the money making methods he teaches, and ask yourself about the differences.

            I'll end up taking a pass on this product, and it may end up making my sales go slower, but I take pride in the product that I have produced, and I want the results that I get to be legit.
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            • Profile picture of the author jakdwak
              Wow, I wish I joined Warrior Forum Two weeks ago.

              I bought this and spent several hours last weekend setting up their files on a Go Daddy host. After lots of help from Go Daddy and very little from the Tim Bekker support, I couldn't figure out what was so magical about it.

              So I sent a message, "Now What?", to their support. After a few days they responded with an email telling me to go to a FAQ page which gives no clue as to how it's supposed to work. I'm getting a refund as soon as I finish writing this post.

              If I had read this thread a week and a half ago I would have saved many hours of my life.

              Thank you all anyway for being so helpful.
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              • Profile picture of the author rkcc4
                Originally Posted by jakdwak View Post

                Wow, I wish I joined Warrior Forum Two weeks ago.

                I bought this and spent several hours last weekend setting up their files on a Go Daddy host. After lots of help from Go Daddy and very little from the Tim Bekker support, I couldn't figure out what was so magical about it.

                So I sent a message, "Now What?", to their support. After a few days they responded with an email telling me to go to a FAQ page which gives no clue as to how it's supposed to work. I'm getting a refund as soon as I finish writing this post.

                If I had read this thread a week and a half ago I would have saved many hours of my life.

                Thank you all anyway for being so helpful.
                I used to always like to have a look at these just to learn do's and don't do's in selling, however, these days I just turn off at the sales page.

                You can expect a call from Tim B's telemarketing company in due course, they will try and sell you coaching between $2k and $10k!

                I had a lot of fun sending the fool in circles, trying to explain that in the first place it might be an idea if he even knew what the product was, what the benefits were etc.

                After 20 minutes he was in great pain and yes I'm afraid I did pull the wings of flies as a kid (before I fed them to spiders)!
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