SEO Link Vine Elite Feedback

by NickP
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Hi all,

I've scoured the forums and can't find anyone who has used SEO Link Vine ELITE at Exclusive SEO Link Building Service - SEOLinkVine Elite

The last 2 times it's been launched, it sold out pretty quick, so I'm curious if anyone has had success. I've used the regular SEO link vine for a while and have had mixed results. Biggest issue lately is articles don't seem to get picked up as much.

I'd really love to hear some feed back about ELITE as I'm looking for a powerful network. I don't mind the $497 / mo price tag, but it needs to live up to the hype.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts if you've used it.

Thanks,
Nick
#elite #feedback #link #seo #vine
  • Profile picture of the author lagrange
    Hi Nick,

    I joined the second SEO Link Vine Elite and was very much disappointed for a number of reason.

    1) The service is announced as "SEO Link Vine Elite" but in reality the support email messages you are receiving are coming from "SEONitro Suppport". I wonder why it's called "SEO Link Vine Elite" when in reality it's just another blog network of SEONitro.

    2) The video tutorials are not well made and the presenter is close to being rude.

    3) This corresponds with the attitude of the support which I expereinced as unfriendly.

    4) I cancelled the service two weeks after joining and was told that there was no money back guarantee and that I have to pay the full monthly amount of US$497.

    5) Despite being supposed to be automatic posting is rather cumbersome and support not particularly helpful. The user interface is rather time consuming to use and the pages build up slowly although I am on a cable connection.

    6) And my main criticism is: Articles which are published appear on the first page of websites in the blog network. After a few hours or after one day almost all of the articles are not on page one any longer. Therefore the positive effect on linkbuilding is very limited as have also others critisized.

    I am using several blog networks but I cannot recommend SEO Link Vine Elite in any way. For a review of this service have a look here:

    Elite SEO Link Vine - the sheer arrogance astounds me - Link Building Services - SEO Link building

    All the best to you,
    lagrange

    P.S. I wonder if anybody here has similar or quite opposite experiences.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aboundz
    I have just signed up to number 4 and was thinking about it for the last 3....before reading this thread...

    I guess I will try it out for this month as there are no refunds anyway. It certainly sounded good...so I hope it is!

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    UPDATE...Ok...now its June 2011.

    I can't make a new post as I have to have made at least 20 posts apparently. Anyway as you can see I have been a member since 2008 and don't comment unnecessarily.

    That said, I have been a member of SEO Linkvine Elite for 4 paying months now and I WILL NEVER QUIT!! (I am seriously considering joining another one when it opens!)

    It is incredible. I am not here to sell anyone anything. I am just stating the facts. I am paying the $497 a month (I started at the $277 to test it out.) I recommend you don't pay the $277 and go straight to the next level if you are a serious marketer.

    The $277 is where you manually do your posting. The $497 is like having a hundred people on Elance working for me.

    The blogs are high PR, quality blogs and anyone would be proud to have their links on there! I would pay $10 per article if I had to, just to be allowed to have one post on there. Some blogs are PR5, many are PR3. Would you pay $10 to be allowed to put an article on them...let alone whenever you wanted to??

    Anyway, I just wanted to say to anyone who is serious about their business and is sick of spending $97 a month (in probably 5 different memberships anyway...) you are mad if you don't sign up whenever they are made available again.

    Oh...and Dori? I have emailed her and she is probably one of the nicest people I have had the pleasure to deal with.

    Brad and Dori, I can't thank you enough. I am now making serious money and its all because of SEO Linkvine Elite.

    Oh...and instead of posting articles 12 hours a day, I am actually sitting back and laughing at all the mistakes I have made in the last few years. We all know backlinks are everything. Well here is a chance to get exactly what we all dream of.

    Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Natlex
    What I find hilarious is that I HIGHLY doubt these are becoming "sold out" and he's already making network 4. I'm pretty sure this is just a marketting tactic. I had a bad experience with the normal SEO linkvine so "elite" at those price points just seems stupid.

    BTW, if he truly is making new networks like this every few months (already at his 4th within 5 months or so...) do you really think they are of good quality? I highly doubt it. At most they are probably just dropped domains with PR at this point that might show like they have PR but it will most likely all be gone by the next google update.

    And after reading this thread... no moneyback? lol are you serious... These "sold out again" emails are just a way to make people believe OMG IF IT SOLD OUT IT MUST WORK. 4th network and I do not see any positive reviews, or a huge lack of reviews actually around the net.

    Oh and one last thing, if you are making money online and willing to spend this much on his network, you are probably much better building your own yourself. A couple of months and you will probably have your own network that will be of higher quality (not linking to hundreds+ of low quality sites like seolinkvine "elite").
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    • Profile picture of the author balara
      I'm a member of the regular SEO link vine and I'm finding that since Google has downgraded the importance of article sites for SEO purposes, SEO link vine is not all that effective. I'm wondering how an increase of $400 a month for the Elite version can be any better.
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  • Profile picture of the author prince007
    We are expecting response from Brad Callen, he is one of the active member of Warrior Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
    Hi Natlex, thank you for your comments. It's a shame that "internet marketing" has gotten to the point where one would think limiting membership is a "marketing tactic".

    These are my networks used for my own websites. We could accept unlimited members, but there is no way I would ever allow more than 50 people into a private, high PR blog network that I use my own websites on.

    The 50 member limit is very real. The 50 member limit was reached each time within a few hours. I will never, ever, stoop to the level that we, unfortunately see many stoop to these days (i.e. look at over half of the Clickbank products. It's VERY sad, to say the least).

    Also, I agree with you in that it's ideally best to build your own network of high Page Rank websites. That's what I did/do with the Elite networks. I then lease out the networks to others that either don't know how OR don't want to spend the time and/or effort doing it themselves. High PR networks are what has made the most difference in my rankings.

    Have a good one.

    Brad
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
    Hi Balara, the Elite networks are private, high Page Rank, aged networks owned by us. The regular SEOLV network is roughly 25,000 blogs ranging from PR0 to PR6, owned by other people that want free content on their websites. These would obviously be mostly lower PR sites. To rank highly in Google for competitive words, it's best to have a good mix of both. (i.e. mass links, plus high PR links).

    SEOLV regular will get you mass links, ranking you for lower competition terms. Elite will push you up for more competitive keywords. That's the difference in a nutshell. To be completely honest, I would not use Elite if I were you, as our members clearly know the power of a high PR network, already have a solid income coming in, and use the Elite network to take their income from a high level to an even higher. Based on your question/comment, it "sounds" like a regular (i.e. article syndication) networks is your best bet for where you are. But that's just my 2 cents.

    Hope that helps! Have a nice Sunday.

    Brad
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    • Profile picture of the author lagrange
      Dear Brad,

      many thanks for your explanations. Unfortunately you did not refer to any of the points I raised which are in line with the criticism to be found here:

      Elite SEO Link Vine - the sheer arrogance astounds me - Link Building Services - SEO Link building

      I would be grateful if you could give your view on these points.

      Greetings,
      lagrange
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      • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
        To each is own. I know what works, as I use our service myself. I'm not going to get into a "debate" with anyone. If you don't want to use our service, don't. I'll leave it at that.

        Best of luck.

        Brad
        P.S. It's also worth noting that was posted 6 months ago. In internet time, that's decades. A lot changes in 6 months. Also, worth noting is the author of the post has never actually used SEOLV Elite. I take feedback and listen 100% from our users (i.e. people that have actually used our systems), and ignore the rest. The author has affiliate links to related products throughout.
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    • Profile picture of the author balara
      Hi Brad, Thank you for the post you made re the difference between your two LinkVine products. Also thank you for the advice you gave me. All help is much appreciated. Getting links anywhere is jolly hard work as everyone here knows. No offence intended but link building is literally a pain in the neck. Thank heaven for Emulgel products.
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      • Profile picture of the author chanetsa
        I have been a member of Seolinkvine elite for 5 months. Here's my experience...

        Initially I seemed to get improvements in rankings. Then progressively all my sites started losing ranking - BIG TIME! I think Google is on to them.

        I posted a support ticket and was told my pages were "over optimised". My backlink reports differ from those provided by the support team. If there is such a thing as over optimisation, and there could be, then this is easily achieved in SEOLV elite. So you need to use the system with great care.

        I am not convinced.

        After many years of working in SEO, I have never had such bad results. All web sites not part of my Seolinkvine Elite campaign are fine, most that were included have failed miserably.

        If you decide to try this network, use an unimportant web site to test and do it for a few months before deciding.

        I will leave it to you to draw your own conclusions.
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  • Profile picture of the author prince007
    I have signed up with them at $497 per month, i got good result with manual posting but haven't got result with automated feed. So i have downloaded my self to $277 per month in which i can only do manual submission. Now the worst thing is that, half of the websites are not working.

    I want to give suggestion to Brad, try to keep websites in old networks up and running rather than opening new network every few months.

    I am still happy with seoelite software i purchased 5 years ago and tips i got with it. I do have several sites in top 3, i am thankful to Brad for it. But what i want is this when you pay high price you should also get best service.

    Brad, please take my case personally and i will also opej up a ticket in forum.

    If those sites are not working, add some new sites from other network.
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    • Profile picture of the author mlmguru
      Originally Posted by prince007 View Post

      I have signed up with them at $497 per month, i got good result with manual posting but haven't got result with automated feed. So i have downloaded my self to $277 per month in which i can only do manual submission. Now the worst thing is that, half of the websites are not working.

      I want to give suggestion to Brad, try to keep websites in old networks up and running rather than opening new network every few months.

      I am still happy with seoelite software i purchased 5 years ago and tips i got with it. I do have several sites in top 3, i am thankful to Brad for it. But what i want is this when you pay high price you should also get best service.

      Brad, please take my case personally and i will also opej up a ticket in forum.

      If those sites are not working, add some new sites from other network.
      I agree with this, I think SEOLV ELite works for those who know how to use, you can't really "try it out for a month", it takes longer than that to see results. But the blogs seem to losing pr, as most have dropped a few. I wish Brad would come up with a way to build links to the blogs so the at least maintain pr, increasing pr would be even better though.

      Overall, I'm happy with the service.
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      • Profile picture of the author ivanm
        Hmm I was actually thinking about joining the network but I'm not sure after seeing some of the feedback and doing some more research. To me the main reason to join would be the home page links and not really the posts since I feel you can do the same exact thing using article syndication networks, Build My Rank, Linkvana.

        With the 1k a month package you get 30 homepage links so if you do the math that's $33 a link which in my opinion is a bit costly but that would depend on the quality of the sites.

        My main concern is as someone else mentioned their not building links to the blogs and the content quality standards don't seem to be to high since you can just post PLR content and I'm sure many members do.

        This is the 8th Elite Seo Linkvine network which means Brad now has a network of at least 4k sites and he's basically getting payed to build his own powerful network- GENIUS.
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        • Profile picture of the author marktaylor001
          I am a regular link SEO wine, and I see that since Google downgraded the importance of article sites for SEO, SEO link wine is not as effective. I wonder how an increase of $ 400 per month for the Elite version may be better.
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  • Profile picture of the author jordyhill
    I've found this thread really useful.

    Maybe it's because I'm just small fry, but I build most of my own links. I outsource my social bookmarking and press releases to some dude on Fiverr. I also occasionally buy profile links from a Warrior for Hire but that's about it.

    I've got on page 1 for 11.5 million competing using this strategy. There are some great free or low cost resources out there for links. I'd say on average, getting to page 1 hasn't cost me more than 50 bucks. And I don't mind dedicating an hour or 2 a day to manually building links because it seems to work and I'm in control.
    I also create half a dozen Web 2.0 properties, Squidoo, YouTube etc, and build quality links to them.

    Personally, I'd love to be in a position to fork out 500 smackers a month for a service like SEOLV Elite. But I'd rather spend it on something fun .

    Just my 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author Ettienne
    SEO Linkvine by itself is a pretty decent tool to use and can make good keywords jump pretty quickly. I've bought more than half of Brad's products and they're all pretty great (except for the premium/platinum article submitter which seriously need an update, but I believe that'll come with a future update of SEO Elite... anyway, back to SEOLV...)

    I doubt that it's a marketing tactic, Brad knows what works, trust me. He's got top rankings for super-tough keywords (and so do I thanks to his awesome tools).

    As for the one comment above regarding MAJOR DROP IN RANKINGS:
    A BEEEEEEEEEG reason for this is that you don't spin your article TITLES well, THIS is where Google NAILS you, not so much the content (but content as well).

    Now I'll do another good deed and recommend Brad's Article Spinner, also a bit pricey, old school and takes quite a while to spin a 500 word article properly, but this is THE BEST SPINNER in my personal opinion.

    SEOLV, right...

    I'm sure it works if used correctly, a bit pricey yes (and the only reason I don't have the Elite version) but I'm sure it'd be worth the money. The last time I HAD the cash and the network was closed 2 days later, and a week later, and 3 weeks later...

    Surely that says something. If it was a marketing gimmic surely he'd keep it open don't you think? And since nobody is giving reviews, maybe these guys simply DON'T wanna share their great secret to good rankings hm?

    Anyhow, that's it from me.

    Have a kick@$$ day everyone
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    Great thread, its good to see that people can come in and make a clean review based on experience, it helps those of us trying to decide to use the service or not make an educated decision. From what I can see there are some that are happy, but others seem to be a little "unhappy" and from looking at response to some of the feedback it was like "if you dont like it, take a long walk off a short dock" Now that tells me everything I need to know.

    But, what I really want to know is this, can it be accurately demonstrated by empirical evidence, that this process works well for a majority of its users, can you discover, active backlinks, real verifiable SEO benefits, that show up in the search engines, and translate as verifiable revenue?

    Do you find that you spend more money than you make?

    Do you see long term SEO results that stick...???

    Do you find that the time spent in managing the User Interface a net gain or a loss?

    These are the questions that I would be interested in learning more about.

    Again Great thread, good to see honest reviews for a change instead of coolaid drinkers and cheer leaders that have an interest in the outcome.
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  • Profile picture of the author seankaye
    Tim,

    Let me put it this way... If I use a tool and it works for me then people bad mouthing it here in the forums doesn't really worry me too much. When a tool doesn't work for me, I usually have no trouble coming here, saying so and hopefully, giving a succinct reason why I feel it failed.

    Private blog networks work. Don't let anyone tell you they don't. The problem is, if I give you a wicked, brand new power drill that's operated by the power of your thought and you can focus long enough to even turn the thing on, who's fault is that?

    Its not telling people to take a short walk, its really a matter of saying that "this strategy is known to work and there are plenty of people saying it has worked for them. PERHAPS, if it isn't working for you, it may not be the product."

    I think the questions you're asking are great questions, but I think we both know that most people doing internet or affiliate marketing for a living, aren't going to spend time collecting their data to come on here and just give it away.
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  • Profile picture of the author NetworxNZ
    Hey all,

    I see this is an old thread but I'd be very interested to hear whether or not anyone has had recent experience with SEOVineLink?

    Just came across this today when looking at Free Rank Checker: Find Out Where Your Sites are Ranked in Google, Yahoo, and Bing! Rank Tracker which is a great looking free service by the way. Do blog networks, private or not still work today?

    There seems to be a huge emphasis on article distribution if I understand their sales letter correctly. Which begs the question, does article marketing even still count in this day & age??

    Would love to hear some feedback from people that are actually using the service and how much effort is involved in making use of the service and if indeed it gets results?

    Cheers in advance guys & gals!

    Darren
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