SEO Link Vine Elite Feedback

Hi Nick,

I joined the second SEO Link Vine Elite and was very much disappointed for a number of reason.

1) The service is announced as "SEO Link Vine Elite" but in reality the support email messages you are receiving are coming from "SEONitro Suppport". I wonder why it's called "SEO Link Vine Elite" when in reality it's just another blog network of SEONitro.

2) The video tutorials are not well made and the presenter is close to being rude.

3) This corresponds with the attitude of the support which I expereinced as unfriendly.

4) I cancelled the service two weeks after joining and was told that there was no money back guarantee and that I have to pay the full monthly amount of US$497.

5) Despite being supposed to be automatic posting is rather cumbersome and support not particularly helpful. The user interface is rather time consuming to use and the pages build up slowly although I am on a cable connection.

6) And my main criticism is: Articles which are published appear on the first page of websites in the blog network. After a few hours or after one day almost all of the articles are not on page one any longer. Therefore the positive effect on linkbuilding is very limited as have also others critisized.

I am using several blog networks but I cannot recommend SEO Link Vine Elite in any way. For a review of this service have a look here:

Elite SEO Link Vine - the sheer arrogance astounds me - Link Building Services - SEO Link building

All the best to you,
lagrange

P.S. I wonder if anybody here has similar or quite opposite experiences.

I have just signed up to number 4 and was thinking about it for the last 3....before reading this thread...

I guess I will try it out for this month as there are no refunds anyway. It certainly sounded good...so I hope it is!

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UPDATE...Ok...now its June 2011.

I can't make a new post as I have to have made at least 20 posts apparently. Anyway as you can see I have been a member since 2008 and don't comment unnecessarily.

That said, I have been a member of SEO Linkvine Elite for 4 paying months now and I WILL NEVER QUIT!! (I am seriously considering joining another one when it opens!)

It is incredible. I am not here to sell anyone anything. I am just stating the facts. I am paying the $497 a month (I started at the $277 to test it out.) I recommend you don't pay the $277 and go straight to the next level if you are a serious marketer.

The $277 is where you manually do your posting. The $497 is like having a hundred people on Elance working for me.

The blogs are high PR, quality blogs and anyone would be proud to have their links on there! I would pay $10 per article if I had to, just to be allowed to have one post on there. Some blogs are PR5, many are PR3. Would you pay $10 to be allowed to put an article on them...let alone whenever you wanted to??

Anyway, I just wanted to say to anyone who is serious about their business and is sick of spending $97 a month (in probably 5 different memberships anyway...) you are mad if you don't sign up whenever they are made available again.

Oh...and Dori? I have emailed her and she is probably one of the nicest people I have had the pleasure to deal with.

Brad and Dori, I can't thank you enough. I am now making serious money and its all because of SEO Linkvine Elite.

Oh...and instead of posting articles 12 hours a day, I am actually sitting back and laughing at all the mistakes I have made in the last few years. We all know backlinks are everything. Well here is a chance to get exactly what we all dream of.

Thanks again.

What I find hilarious is that I HIGHLY doubt these are becoming "sold out" and he's already making network 4. I'm pretty sure this is just a marketting tactic. I had a bad experience with the normal SEO linkvine so "elite" at those price points just seems stupid.

BTW, if he truly is making new networks like this every few months (already at his 4th within 5 months or so...) do you really think they are of good quality? I highly doubt it. At most they are probably just dropped domains with PR at this point that might show like they have PR but it will most likely all be gone by the next google update.

And after reading this thread... no moneyback? lol are you serious... These "sold out again" emails are just a way to make people believe OMG IF IT SOLD OUT IT MUST WORK. 4th network and I do not see any positive reviews, or a huge lack of reviews actually around the net.

Oh and one last thing, if you are making money online and willing to spend this much on his network, you are probably much better building your own yourself. A couple of months and you will probably have your own network that will be of higher quality (not linking to hundreds+ of low quality sites like seolinkvine "elite").

We are expecting response from Brad Callen, he is one of the active member of Warrior Forum.

Hi Natlex, thank you for your comments. It's a shame that "internet marketing" has gotten to the point where one would think limiting membership is a "marketing tactic".

These are my networks used for my own websites. We could accept unlimited members, but there is no way I would ever allow more than 50 people into a private, high PR blog network that I use my own websites on.

The 50 member limit is very real. The 50 member limit was reached each time within a few hours. I will never, ever, stoop to the level that we, unfortunately see many stoop to these days (i.e. look at over half of the Clickbank products. It's VERY sad, to say the least).

Also, I agree with you in that it's ideally best to build your own network of high Page Rank websites. That's what I did/do with the Elite networks. I then lease out the networks to others that either don't know how OR don't want to spend the time and/or effort doing it themselves. High PR networks are what has made the most difference in my rankings.

Have a good one.

Brad

Hi Balara, the Elite networks are private, high Page Rank, aged networks owned by us. The regular SEOLV network is roughly 25,000 blogs ranging from PR0 to PR6, owned by other people that want free content on their websites. These would obviously be mostly lower PR sites. To rank highly in Google for competitive words, it's best to have a good mix of both. (i.e. mass links, plus high PR links).

SEOLV regular will get you mass links, ranking you for lower competition terms. Elite will push you up for more competitive keywords. That's the difference in a nutshell. To be completely honest, I would not use Elite if I were you, as our members clearly know the power of a high PR network, already have a solid income coming in, and use the Elite network to take their income from a high level to an even higher. Based on your question/comment, it "sounds" like a regular (i.e. article syndication) networks is your best bet for where you are. But that's just my 2 cents.

Hope that helps! Have a nice Sunday.

Brad

I have signed up with them at $497 per month, i got good result with manual posting but haven't got result with automated feed. So i have downloaded my self to $277 per month in which i can only do manual submission. Now the worst thing is that, half of the websites are not working.

I want to give suggestion to Brad, try to keep websites in old networks up and running rather than opening new network every few months.

I am still happy with seoelite software i purchased 5 years ago and tips i got with it. I do have several sites in top 3, i am thankful to Brad for it. But what i want is this when you pay high price you should also get best service.

Brad, please take my case personally and i will also opej up a ticket in forum.

If those sites are not working, add some new sites from other network.

I've found this thread really useful.

Maybe it's because I'm just small fry, but I build most of my own links. I outsource my social bookmarking and press releases to some dude on Fiverr. I also occasionally buy profile links from a Warrior for Hire but that's about it.

I've got on page 1 for 11.5 million competing using this strategy. There are some great free or low cost resources out there for links. I'd say on average, getting to page 1 hasn't cost me more than 50 bucks. And I don't mind dedicating an hour or 2 a day to manually building links because it seems to work and I'm in control.
I also create half a dozen Web 2.0 properties, Squidoo, YouTube etc, and build quality links to them.

Personally, I'd love to be in a position to fork out 500 smackers a month for a service like SEOLV Elite. But I'd rather spend it on something fun .

Just my 2 cents

SEO Linkvine by itself is a pretty decent tool to use and can make good keywords jump pretty quickly. I've bought more than half of Brad's products and they're all pretty great (except for the premium/platinum article submitter which seriously need an update, but I believe that'll come with a future update of SEO Elite... anyway, back to SEOLV...)

I doubt that it's a marketing tactic, Brad knows what works, trust me. He's got top rankings for super-tough keywords (and so do I thanks to his awesome tools).

As for the one comment above regarding MAJOR DROP IN RANKINGS:
A BEEEEEEEEEG reason for this is that you don't spin your article TITLES well, THIS is where Google NAILS you, not so much the content (but content as well).

Now I'll do another good deed and recommend Brad's Article Spinner, also a bit pricey, old school and takes quite a while to spin a 500 word article properly, but this is THE BEST SPINNER in my personal opinion.

SEOLV, right...

I'm sure it works if used correctly, a bit pricey yes (and the only reason I don't have the Elite version) but I'm sure it'd be worth the money. The last time I HAD the cash and the network was closed 2 days later, and a week later, and 3 weeks later...

Surely that says something. If it was a marketing gimmic surely he'd keep it open don't you think? And since nobody is giving reviews, maybe these guys simply DON'T wanna share their great secret to good rankings hm?

Anyhow, that's it from me.

Have a kick@$$ day everyone

Great thread, its good to see that people can come in and make a clean review based on experience, it helps those of us trying to decide to use the service or not make an educated decision. From what I can see there are some that are happy, but others seem to be a little "unhappy" and from looking at response to some of the feedback it was like "if you dont like it, take a long walk off a short dock" Now that tells me everything I need to know.

But, what I really want to know is this, can it be accurately demonstrated by empirical evidence, that this process works well for a majority of its users, can you discover, active backlinks, real verifiable SEO benefits, that show up in the search engines, and translate as verifiable revenue?

Do you find that you spend more money than you make?

Do you see long term SEO results that stick...???

Do you find that the time spent in managing the User Interface a net gain or a loss?

These are the questions that I would be interested in learning more about.

Again Great thread, good to see honest reviews for a change instead of coolaid drinkers and cheer leaders that have an interest in the outcome.

Tim,

Let me put it this way... If I use a tool and it works for me then people bad mouthing it here in the forums doesn't really worry me too much. When a tool doesn't work for me, I usually have no trouble coming here, saying so and hopefully, giving a succinct reason why I feel it failed.

Private blog networks work. Don't let anyone tell you they don't. The problem is, if I give you a wicked, brand new power drill that's operated by the power of your thought and you can focus long enough to even turn the thing on, who's fault is that?

Its not telling people to take a short walk, its really a matter of saying that "this strategy is known to work and there are plenty of people saying it has worked for them. PERHAPS, if it isn't working for you, it may not be the product."

I think the questions you're asking are great questions, but I think we both know that most people doing internet or affiliate marketing for a living, aren't going to spend time collecting their data to come on here and just give it away.

Hey all,

I see this is an old thread but I'd be very interested to hear whether or not anyone has had recent experience with SEOVineLink?

Just came across this today when looking at Free Rank Checker: Find Out Where Your Sites are Ranked in Google, Yahoo, and Bing! Rank Tracker which is a great looking free service by the way. Do blog networks, private or not still work today?

There seems to be a huge emphasis on article distribution if I understand their sales letter correctly. Which begs the question, does article marketing even still count in this day & age??

Would love to hear some feedback from people that are actually using the service and how much effort is involved in making use of the service and if indeed it gets results?

Cheers in advance guys & gals!

Darren