eTycoon

14 years ago

That is kind of steep, but I do think Ryan Moran offers great value.

He was actually making a full-time income online outside of IM, before he began teaching (this is an important point).

If that is a little bit steep for you, you can't go wrong with Mark Ling's teachings. He is a 7 figure income earner (outside of the IM niche). Google his name and look for Affilorama Premium.

Again...Ryan Moran's product is probably great.

-Rusty

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Blazon1 14 years ago

Thanks for the info, Rusty. Just looking at Mark's Affiliorama Premium, it appears to be related to affiliate marketing, which is OK. But Ryan's course is about investing in and flipping virtual real estate. Some of that VRE could be affiliate sites, of course, but I would be looking for a course more along the lines of Ryan's, if not his. Ryan seems like a good enough guy, but he appears to be a devotee of Ryan Deiss who was closely associated with Perry Belcher, which I do not consider to be a good thing.
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JackTriggs

14 years ago

Ryan offers a guarantee so there's no problem. Nonetheless if you can read through the free stuff on his site, you'll get all you need.

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thomashoi

14 years ago

I bought eTycoon in feb 2010 when it first appeared. Went through the entire course and I bought some websites, built some new sites from scratch to a huge success. One of them generated over $260,000 retail sales and the other give me a monthly income of $1000.

I agree the course is expensive at $997, and this time round, you can choose to buy the different modules at cheaper prices:

1. Lump Sum Profits - $97
2. Local Tycoon - $197

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14 years ago

In general, his information is really good.

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VeronicaD

14 years ago

I came here searching for this, as I just came across his site. It says $97 to sign up... where are you coming up with $997?

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thomashoi 14 years ago

Originally Posted by VeronicaD

I came here searching for this, as I just came across his site. It says $97 to sign up... where are you coming up with $997?

Hi,

I'm a member of Etycoon master class, so the $97 sign up is the price of Lump sum profits. If you want to access all the modules, you have to sign up for the master class, which I think will launch on 12th April, for a high price of $997.

If you are uncomfortable paying $997, you can start with Lump sum profits first.
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VeronicaD

14 years ago

Hi Thomas,

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What is included in "Lump Sums"? Does the software come with that?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by VeronicaD

Hi Thomas,

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What is included in "Lump Sums"? Does the software come with that?

Hi Veronica,

As a member of the eTycoon masterclass, the lump sum profits is offered to me as a bonus, so I need not pay cent for it.

Anyway, Lump sum profits teach you how to setup a website quickly and sell on flippa for a lump sum and then you can use that seed money to start buying bigger websites to give you a passive income. It also includes tons of case studies (videos) of people who have done it for some quick money.

However, If you can afford the $997 full eTycoon course, then you should not buy this at all since you can get it for FREE when you buy the full eTycoon course.

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Quincy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thomashoi

Hi Veronica,

As a member of the eTycoon masterclass, the lump sum profits is offered to me as a bonus, so I need not pay cent for it.

Anyway, Lump sum profits teach you how to setup a website quickly and sell on flippa for a lump sum and then you can use that seed money to start buying bigger websites to give you a passive income. It also includes tons of case studies (videos) of people who have done it for some quick money.

However, If you can afford the $997 full eTycoon course, then you should not buy this at all since you can get it for FREE when you buy the full eTycoon course.

So, reading between the lines, the $97 module doesn't include the software. Correct?

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alimulyadi

14 years ago

Nope, there is no software included in the lumpsum profits module.

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Ross Bowring

14 years ago

Ryan has a tremendous product on every level. A truly refreshing change from all the over-hyped crap out there.

--- Ross

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thomashoi

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ross Bowring

Ryan has a tremendous product on every level. A truly refreshing change from all the over-hyped crap out there.

--- Ross

I agree, Ryan has cleverly apply his real estate background onto websites investment, even though he has made money with traditional way of building links to rank websites, he has turned to buying and selling websites which are already ranked on first page of Google and most importantly getting sales.

As an internet marketer myself, there were many times where I have ranked my websites on #1 on Google but frustrated to find that it is not generating any sales and it took me sometime to figure out that I have targeted the wrong crowd.

But if you were to buy websites which already has traffic and sales, you know you are buying a gold mine, an income producing asset which gives you money month after month. The best part is that such websites are only selling 8 to 12 times it's monthly income which means you can get back your capital within a year, i.e ROI 100% in less than a year, and after that, your returns are infinite.

In fact, inside the eTycoon course, Ryan teach you how to buy website from people who do not know it's true value because they are not an internet marketer like us.... their websites having tons of traffic but it is not monetize in any way. So this gives you the chance to scoop up the website for pennies on the dollar. Ryan actually shows you how he did it in one of his case study in the eTycoon course.

Interestingly, Robert Kiyosaki has released his latest book "Unfair Advantage" and there is a chapter on how he uses debt to buy his first properties to start his real estate investment journey. Using the same principle, you can combine this unfair advantage with eTycoon course to buy your first website for nothing an yet generating passive income month after month.

According to Robert, when you buy an asset(income producing website) with no money down, and get passive income month after month, you literally "get something for nothing" and you immediately shift yourself to "Investor" of the cashflow quadrant.

However, the price of the eTycoon course is not cheap at $997 and many of you may have problem. But if you were to take action and follow what Ryan teaches in the course, many of you may achieve financial freedom in the near future.

Let me know if you have any questions about the course and I will gladly help.

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ThomPhelps

14 years ago

Thanks for the the info thomashoi.

So what is the biggest difference between Lump Sum Profits and the Etycoon Master Class? I know the software comes with the Master Class but do you actually learn a lot more?

Thank you!

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remodeler

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomPhelps

Thanks for the the info thomashoi.

So what is the biggest difference between Lump Sum Profits and the Etycoon Master Class? I know the software comes with the Master Class but do you actually learn a lot more?

Thank you!

That's something I have been wondering about as well. I've looked at both and perhaps I've missed something, but it looks to be the same with the exception of the Flip Finder software. Is that right Thomas?

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thomashoi

14 years ago

Originally Posted by remodeler

That's something I have been wondering about as well. I've looked at both and perhaps I've missed something, but it looks to be the same with the exception of the Flip Finder software. Is that right Thomas?

Lump sum profits is just a subset of the eTycoon masterclass. Lump sum profits teach you to build a website that can rank on first page of Google within days using underground methods. With traffic coming in, you can sell it on flippa for a couple of hundred dollars.

The flip finder software in not included in the Lump sum profits. The flip finder software is very useful for finding sites that are available for sale all over the internet, based on the criteria you choose, i.e the software can spit results based on PR, alexa rank, BIN price etc...

The masterclass is definitely worth more than the Lump sum profits... simply because you are taught the underground ways of buying websites not listed anywhere on the net. By just following this step, you can buy a website for pennies on the dollar.... which means your ROI can be 100% within the first 2-3 months, instead of waiting 8-12 months.

You are also taught how to add equity to increase the income of the website you bought and then flip it for a lump sum or add it to your portfolio for passive income.

And there is also the local tycoon module which I made tons of money with little work simply because there is not competition.

Hope it helps.

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gie grace

14 years ago

@ thomashoi*
Thanks for sharing all this info. I am interested in the course but I'm still trying to raise $997 for it which is quite a big amount of money for me.*

You mentioned that he offered this course last year. Is it the same course?

And about local tycoon, there was a section there about tax strategies to protect your VRE's. I'm not sure if it is part of local tycoon or about the course in general.*

Anyways, thanks again for taking time to enlighten us with regards to this product. Your personal story and the figures you made by applying his course serve as an inspiration to all of us. Most importantly to me. As it reminds me that such amount is not only possible but achievable by anyone who applies the teachings in the course.*

I know I achieve IM success as well (Which I define as becoming a full time Internet*
marketer, earning substantial income to quit my day job, and teaching others to do the same, creating jobs in the process). But its a matter of me believing in it really. And to believe in a method long enough to make it work and not jump from one course to another.*

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by gie grace

@ thomashoi*
Thanks for sharing all this info. I am interested in the course but I'm still trying to raise $997 for it which is quite a big amount of money for me.*

You mentioned that he offered this course last year. Is it the same course?

And about local tycoon, there was a section there about tax strategies to protect your VRE's. I'm not sure if it is part of local tycoon or about the course in general.*

Anyways, thanks again for taking time to enlighten us with regards to this product. Your personal story and the figures you made by applying his course serve as an inspiration to all of us. Most importantly to me. As it reminds me that such amount is not only possible but achievable by anyone who applies the teachings in the course.*

I know I achieve IM success as well (Which I define as becoming a full time Internet*
marketer, earning substantial income to quit my day job, and teaching others to do the same, creating jobs in the process). But its a matter of me believing in it really. And to believe in a method long enough to make it work and not jump from one course to another.*

Hi Grace,

If you have read "Rich Dad Poor Dad" by Robert Kiyosaki before, you will know how to create money from thin air bu using OPM! I just receive an email from Ryan that he's closing the eTycoon course soon....

Yes, the course I joined is the same, and that Ryan have added more stuffs like Tax free strategies and how to raise money from investors to buy websites (No excuses for not making money online!)

In fact, I'm currently working out a deal with an investor using what Ryan had thought in the video tutorial, wish me luck!!

See you all in eTycoon course!

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thomashoi

14 years ago

Just want to share some quick tips so you can start buying undervalued websites for pennies on the dollar, without competition at all. But pls keep it to yourself..... especially Ryan .... cos he will probably slaughter me for giving out this gold!...

Tip #1: "Ended Unsold"

One way to buy profitable websites with no competition is to
get to the flippa.com "Ended Unsold" section. Here you will find
tons of websites where the owners are willing to let go. The reason
their website ended unsold is probably because they have a high
starting price, which discourage potential buyers from bidding.

As a smart investor, you could go right in and contact these owners
and give an offer price to them offline, i.e skype or phone call, because it is against
fiippa's TOC to offer price in the messaging system. And when you offer a price, remember to use the famous "8 to 12 times the website monthly income" phrase to make sure you get the best deal.

Tip #2: "The God father technique"

I don't know why Ryan call it the God father technique but you simply see what is selling for a good price on flippa.com and you find a similar website that is ranked on page 2-5 on Google, approach the website owner and say you are interested to buy their website. Ryan actually show how he did this in one of eTycoon video - Buy a similar website listed on page 2 for a low price, do some SEO to it and the website has went on to be listed on first page of Google.... in fact, just a few positions below the website that is sold on flippa for $80,0000!!

Now you know why it is important to buy undervalued websites with zero competition.

Try them out and let me know your experiences....

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joejoechen

14 years ago

Erm.. okay I've not bought Ryan's stuff, mainly I'm not in the flipping business, but I was in Wealthy Affiliate forum for more than 2 years and I've known Ryan since then. If you are into website flipping, or, you just wanna make any money online, take this course up and I'm PRETTYYY sure Ryan will do a good job to help you personally.

(Just so you know, I'm not paid to write this just my personal view on Ryan's personality)

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thatguy 14 years ago

Whilst I dont doubt the intentions of some of the people posting here are good, I would find it difficult to get an unbiased view from a post that is mostly a conversation between two affiliates for the program you're asking about.

From my experience the program is ok but not really worth the money if youre a fairly smart person that can figure things out for yourself and just need a little help along the way.

If I had to start again I would do this first, then only contemplate spending $0000s if it failed to work

Guides and Strategy
Beginners - flipwebsites.com free guide
Beginner - Intermediate - killerflippingsecrets.com

For advice and help from people who do this daily
flippingplanet.com
experienced-people.net/forums/forum.php

Software
Domains - domainface.com
Websites - flipfilter.com

Marketplaces
bottom end - forums.digitalpoint.com

mid market
sitepaw.com
eflipp.com
flippa.com

highend
wesellyoursite.com
websiteproperties.com
quietlightbrokerage.comMost of the information is out thereand there isnt really a magic solution that will do it for you.The biggest obstacle for most people isnt having the tools and information but actually being persistent and doing what they know they should, on a regular basis.
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kennygoodman

14 years ago

I hear it is good

I am currently working on my information product so watch this space.

Another good one is David Jenyns and Danny Batelic's 'Buy Build Sell' http://www.mybbsformula.com
which is very thorough and offers loads of bonuses like their outsourcing and SEO courses. This is about half the price of eTycoon

I hope this helps

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livinglarge 14 years ago

I am not an affiliate promoting this program. I bought it last week and have found it amazing. I did splurge for the master class, which comes with the software. The members area has all of the information, step by step on how to flip websites. Ryan also has webinars and is readily available to answer questions. I have no question that I will make money using this course. I will report back the day that happens.
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HypnoHugh

14 years ago

This is definitely a good business model.

For those a bit hard up there are quite a few WSO's on website flipping - both on newly built sites & more established for higher profits. Also if you go to Ryan's website site there are some other offers if you trial his software.

I guess the key is presenting your site and stats in a professional way that will get people interested.

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chrisyates

14 years ago

Since I'm also in the business of buying, selling and flipping (and teaching others how to do it), I love to see new people getting into the business. The business model behind eTycoon is solid and if you can afford it and plan to take action, I'd say pull the trigger.

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Flipfilter 14 years ago

My vote goes to Dave, Ryan and Danny's Buy Build Sell or Killer Flipping Secrets.

I've gone through them both and its a case of good solid information.
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Wayne OS

14 years ago

If you had to choose between lump sum profits or domain killing secrets which would it be for the best info?

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online12793

14 years ago

eTycoon offers lots and lots of useful info and userfriendly,
the videos & audio tutorials are over 4 gig if you were to watch and listen to them.

All up is a good 5 star for this program.

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Vincent1988

14 years ago

I recently bought eTycoon and the tool is ok. It's not the best but they have unique features.

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ThomPhelps 14 years ago

I purchased this about one month ago because although I am in a number of areas of IM and have done very well, one area that I lacked knowledge in was the buying and selling of virtual real estate.

I have not gone through every module but what I have gone through is ok. Not worth the price tag though. You can learn everything you need to know through other resources.

The one thing I thought I had read in the sales material was that we would get a bit of one one one with Ryan Moran. Boy was I wrong! You can't even get in touch with him by email. You can get his assistant but not Ryan. For the price tag I think even a one time coaching session would have been nice. This is usually the way it is with these courses though. I should have known better.

I then received an email recently from Ryan and he seems to be taking off some where and not even really actively involved with his "new students". For some reason I just thought he was going to be a bit more "hands" on with his "Master Class" students.

Don't get me wrong, I am not knocking Ryan, I think he is an extremely good teacher and has great information. I just think for the price tag it is some what lacking that is all.
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gie grace

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thomashoi

Hi Grace,

If you have read "Rich Dad Poor Dad" by Robert Kiyosaki before, you will know how to create money from thin air bu using OPM! I just receive an email from Ryan that he's closing the eTycoon course soon....

Yes, the course I joined is the same, and that Ryan have added more stuffs like Tax free strategies and how to raise money from investors to buy websites (No excuses for not making money online!)

In fact, I'm currently working out a deal with an investor using what Ryan had thought in the video tutorial, wish me luck!!

See you all in eTycoon course!

Yup, I've read a few of the Rich Dad books. Leveraging other people's money (OPM) is one essential skill to learn for any business owner.

Glad to know you're making a killing implementing his strategies. Unfortunately, my current financial situation makes it hard for me to afford courses with high price tags. And I've read from Ryan that you need at least $1000 to invest in your first buy. I don't have that much extra cash at the moment, although I will be looking into this business model as soon as I have cash flow from my other IM businesses.

Originally Posted by HypnoHugh

This is definitely a good business model.

For those a bit hard up there are quite a few WSO's on website flipping - both on newly built sites & more established for higher profits. Also if you go to Ryan's website site there are some other offers if you trial his software.

I guess the key is presenting your site and stats in a professional way that will get people interested.

That's one great piece of advice

Being professional in your dealings will help increase your market value.

Originally Posted by chrisyates

Since I'm also in the business of buying, selling and flipping (and teaching others how to do it), I love to see new people getting into the business. The business model behind eTycoon is solid and if you can afford it and plan to take action, I'd say pull the trigger.

So you wouldn't mind a little competition?

I have read many posts about starter websites/turnkey sites being sold on Flippa, and how people advice NOT to follow this model. Do you typically buy aged sites with at least 6 months worth of traffic stats?
And how do you measure traffic? Is it based on Google Analytics?

Originally Posted by Flipfilter

My vote goes to Dave, Ryan and Danny's Buy Build Sell or Killer Flipping Secrets.

I've gone through them both and its a case of good solid information.

Have you gone through their courses? Are you in the flipping business as well?

Originally Posted by Vincent1988

I recently bought eTycoon and the tool is ok. It's not the best but they have unique features.

What course do you recommend to be the best then?

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ThomPhelps 13 years ago

I finally got a refund on this. Just not what I thought.
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beck13

14 years ago

i had this program but got a prompt refund
it's great but i just don't have the extra cash to shell out on the types of sites i want, nor do i know any rich investors... thomas, i'm curious to know where you found investors?

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seankaye

14 years ago

I too refunded - the course itself was ok, but it seemed like Ryan was dragging it out to justify the price tag. Also the site search tool to help you look for sites to buy was rubbish - most of the data was way out of date. You'd find a site worth looking at only to go to Flippa or wherever to see that the auction closed three weeks earlier.

To me, if that course were $197, edited properly and with a bit more coaching and interactivity, it would have been good value.

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Mr Bill

13 years ago

I bought the entire package and all the upsells. Love the material. It's what I want to do. Sent about 6 emails to Ryan now at all his email addresses and not once has he ever got back to me. Despite that atrocious lack of any support I still like what he's saying and believe that buying/renovating or building and selling websites is for me but from what I can tell (if it was not for this forum) I would feel like the only person who bought it.

Does anyone know how to contact Ryan? Is there a support forum for his clients? Is there a skype group? Is there any support for this product at all? Last night he sent me an auto responder saying it's the last chance to buy his stuff. I thought I did just buy his stuff. This really ****s me off about these things. There are either no content, no support, or good content no support.

I want to start a chat room for flippers. Is there anyone else out there who is into eTycoon, website selling, flipping or anything like that. If you are also into this side of internet income skype me. If there are enough we'll start our own damn support group. Back in my day when I used to sell info products (in an unrelated industry) if I got an order I would be straight on the telephone calling them up and welcoming them on board making sure they were all comfortable and knew what to do. These days you get stuff all. No one wants to talk to you. I even contacted one of the really expensive coaches from here who charges an extreme monthly fee and got such a rude response that...anyway so who wants to stop the decay of support?

Let's start a flipping group. Unless there already is one I can join.

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wordwizard 13 years ago

I'd love to get some more detail about Lum Sum Profits.

I've just gotten a promo and would like to know if this really works, and what's included (and if there are any upsells that are required to make it work).

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