Big Dissapointments With SEOLinkVIne

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Hi Guys,

Its been more than 5 months since I used SEOLinkVIne by Brad Callen. I don't have major issue with them until today.

I normally submit 10-15+ articles per day. But today to my dismay they "LIMIT" my account to submit only "10" articles per day which pisses me off.

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You have hit your daily limit of new article submissions.  In order to  help all of our users in the network build backlinks at a steady pace,  we must limit the number of new articles that you can submit each day.

Your article was saved succesfully, but as a draft. You can submit this article tomorrow.
I want to insert the image here but my account is not allowed to do it. Anyone experience this issue with them?
#big #dissapointments #seolinkvine
  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
    Yeh you are right. Now there is a limit of 10 articles per day. I already having bad time with seolinkevine from last couple of weeks. My articles starts posting about after 3-4 days. I am thinking to cancel my subscription.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnwho
      Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

      Yeh you are right. Now there is a limit of 10 articles per day. I already having bad time with seolinkevine from last couple of weeks. My articles starts posting about after 3-4 days. I am thinking to cancel my subscription.
      Hey thanks for sharing your thoughts. I have experienced that "LAG" too right after brad ended his contest. :confused:

      When the contest is still "ON" my articles has been published in no time (less than 24 hours). :rolleyes:

      Do you have any alternative on mind?
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      • Profile picture of the author jrafique
        Originally Posted by johnwho View Post

        Do you have any alternative on mind?
        My Article Network without any doubt.
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        • Profile picture of the author johnwho
          Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

          My Article Network without any doubt.
          Whats your experience with them? How about Article Marketing Network? Its fairly the same as SEOLinkVIne. But they will publish your articles sooner than you think. Plus you will just choose the "exact" category.

          I have never use Article Marketing Network to my own sites, but I used it to my clients (his subscription) and it work wonders when combined with SEOLinkVIne.

          I am starting to dislike SEOLinkVIne as the time goes. Few months ago they changed the max published from 10 to 4 and now only "10" articles per submission. Do you think its worth to pay $40-$60 per month with those limitations? As for me, I don't think so.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
      Originally Posted by jrafique View Post

      Yeh you are right. Now there is a limit of 10 articles per day. I already having bad time with seolinkevine from last couple of weeks. My articles starts posting about after 3-4 days. I am thinking to cancel my subscription.
      This is the reason this limit was put into place. Some users were submitting hundreds of articles a day, clogging up the queue for all other paying members. It was not fair that a few users would submit hundreds of daily articles, clogging the queue, and causing other paid members to see low publish counts. 99% of users submit, on average 2 articles per day (or less). Less than 1% of total users submit more than 10.

      Users will see a higher publish rate due to this new policy, which was put in place for 99% of users. I'm sorry you do not agree with the policy, but the decision was made to help the bulk of the SEOLV community.

      Brad
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      • Profile picture of the author johnwho
        Originally Posted by Brad Callen View Post

        This is the reason this limit was put into place. Some users were submitting hundreds of articles a day, clogging up the queue for all other paying members. It was not fair that a few users would submit hundreds of daily articles, clogging the queue, and causing other paid members to see low publish counts. 99% of users submit, on average 2 articles per day (or less). Less than 1% of total users submit more than 10.

        Users will see a higher publish rate due to this new policy, which was put in place for 99% of users. I'm sorry you do not agree with the policy, but the decision was made to help the bulk of the SEOLV community.

        Brad
        Thanks for explaining your side here Brad. But the "10" limit is fairly too low. Its understandable if its 10-15 or even 20 a day limit.
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      • Profile picture of the author rmoore
        Originally Posted by Brad Callen View Post

        This is the reason this limit was put into place. Some users were submitting hundreds of articles a day, clogging up the queue for all other paying members. It was not fair that a few users would submit hundreds of daily articles, clogging the queue, and causing other paid members to see low publish counts. 99% of users submit, on average 2 articles per day (or less). Less than 1% of total users submit more than 10.

        Users will see a higher publish rate due to this new policy, which was put in place for 99% of users. I'm sorry you do not agree with the policy, but the decision was made to help the bulk of the SEOLV community.

        Brad
        I can't imagine submitting 10 articles per day to a blog network.

        I belong to 1waylinks and maybe put in 10 good articles per month.

        Honestly...I'm with Brad on this one!

        10 per day is a decent amount (even for an aggressive marketer).

        -Rusty
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    check out www.articleproductions.com. There is a review thread here. For 37/mo you get instant approval to the directory, the ability to "socially post" your article links, you can include affiliate links in the article as well. There is also live training, which is free. Might be an option for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnwho
    @cypherslock Thanks man.

    @jrafique. Thanks for the PM but my account is not allowed to send a message to yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnwho
    Update: it seems that they have a "NEW" standard in place. For a paying member to get additional 5 more submissions per day, he needs to add 1 blog to the system. For each blog you add, you will be credited a 5 more submissions.

    Standard user that pays $40-$60 per month will only given a minimum of 10 submissions per day. It seems a pretty bad idea for me..

    Edit: This new standard won't be implemented at this time and its very clear that paid members like me will just have to settle for the 10 per day limit.
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    • Profile picture of the author Natlex
      Originally Posted by johnwho View Post

      Update: it seems that they have a "NEW" standard in place. For a paying member to get additional 5 more submissions per day, he needs to add 1 blog to the system. For each blog you add, you will be credited a 5 more submissions.

      Standard user that pays $40-$60 per month will only given a minimum of 10 submissions per day. It seems a pretty bad idea for me..
      Seems like a good way to make the network grow... It's pretty terrible currently. In my tests it never helped me rank for keywords despite my articles getting indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnwho
    I have articles that's been submitted in SEOLV 2 weeks ago that is not yet published.
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  • Profile picture of the author bfas
    My experience on the 'other side' of using SEOLV was the terrible quality of most of the articles. This is likely why they aren't getting syndicated much.

    It's a pity as I'm a huge fan of Callen & Co., but found myself having to eyeball 20 articles to find one even half-way decent.

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author gottahave
    My hassle with SeoLinkVine is that many authors mis-categorize their articles with the consequence of receiving articles with no reference to the theme of my blogs. With some authors submitting large numbers of articles no wonder I'm receiving so much crap that's get deleted on a daily basis.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clint Butler
      As a blog owner who is using the system simply for content, I agree with this policy. I have gotten so many crap articles on my site because of users uploading so much junk that I had to switch it to manual approval. Hopefully this limit will result in a quality improvement.

      Originally Posted by Brad Callen View Post

      This is the reason this limit was put into place. Some users were submitting hundreds of articles a day, clogging up the queue for all other paying members. It was not fair that a few users would submit hundreds of daily articles, clogging the queue, and causing other paid members to see low publish counts. 99% of users submit, on average 2 articles per day (or less). Less than 1% of total users submit more than 10.

      Users will see a higher publish rate due to this new policy, which was put in place for 99% of users. I'm sorry you do not agree with the policy, but the decision was made to help the bulk of the SEOLV community.

      Brad
      Originally Posted by gottahave View Post

      My hassle with SeoLinkVine is that many authors mis-categorize their articles with the consequence of receiving articles with no reference to the theme of my blogs. With some authors submitting large numbers of articles no wonder I'm receiving so much crap that's get deleted on a daily basis.
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      • Profile picture of the author johnwho
        Today, I can't submit "10" articles only "9". This is absolutely not a good thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    Well... What's wrong with SEOLV? I have no issues with them.

    Slow in submitting? That's what I want. I have an article submitted 2 months ago and it's STILL submitting today, slowly. I want Google to find my links naturally, even if it is only 4 articles per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
    I have to agree with Clint and Michael (bfas) about the content received.

    I've had to go through 10-15 articles manually to get 1-2 that were intelligible enough to post to my blog, plus some of them get posted on my blog and the HTML is messed up, so the author isn't getting the backlinks they thought they were.

    I don't have time to go to each post and edit that. It's happening less now, but still happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnwho
    I am sick and tired of this mess. SEOLV won't allow me to submit more than 6 articles? WTF?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
      Originally Posted by johnwho View Post

      I am sick and tired of this mess. SEOLV won't allow me to submit more than 6 articles? WTF?
      May I suggest that you quit SEOLV so that you can stop all your frustrations? I've been using it and it fits into my SEO strategies.

      Anymore complaints will trigger some actions from the mods.
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      • Profile picture of the author Natlex
        Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

        May I suggest that you quit SEOLV so that you can stop all your frustrations? I've been using it and it fits into my SEO strategies.

        Anymore complaints will trigger some actions from the mods.
        Yup, if you disagree so much and you are submitting more than 6 articles daily than you are probably using the service for way more people than only yourself and if you want to submit more, get another license. I think this decision is great and might make me consider trying SEOlinkvine again in the future. Actaully, most of my articles are getting published more these past 2 weeks which is very helpful.

        I gotta admit, I have been adding loosely related categories to some of my articles ( sorry owners) in the past because of how extremely slow they were being submitted ( I'm talking almost 0-1 a day on articles in the health niche !). This change will probably make me just select the categories that are most related to my articles, helping both sides.
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  • Profile picture of the author ogm
    I think it was the right decision to limit the number of submissions. From what I understand there is a huge imbalance between the number of people who want to submit their links and people who want to receive content. That's why Brad keeps running these contests to get people to submit their blogs.

    I tried to connect a blog once and unplugged it within a week. The quality of articles is very low, which is of course no big surprize. So why expose your sites to garbage flood with links in it. Quality blogs will never do that. So all these articles end up on some internet junk piles.

    Don't know if those restrictions will help to raise the quality of links, though. that is my biggest concern with the service.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
      Originally Posted by ogm View Post

      From what I understand there is a huge imbalance between the number of people who want to submit their links and people who want to receive content. That's why Brad keeps running these contests to get people to submit their blogs.
      I signed up as a publisher when SEOLV first started and could not find anything worthy of being placed on my blog. I'm sure there are many other bloggers who feel the same. It became a chore to go through the queue to try and find something decent.

      I am more than willing to put people's content on my sites, but it has to be readable, informative, and entertaining.

      It is a great idea but when any network is dominated by junk, the whole network will suffer because genuine publishers won't touch it with a 10ft pole.

      BuildMyRank has the right idea. Make the marketer work a bit for the link and the whole network benefits as the mass spammers won't go near it.

      Brad, I think it's a great idea to lower the limit. You just now have to make sure those 10 articles are worth publishing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Boricua
    Originally Posted by johnwho View Post

    Hi Guys,

    Its been more than 5 months since I used SEOLinkVIne by Brad Callen. I don't have major issue with them until today.

    I normally submit 10-15+ articles per day. But today to my dismay they "LIMIT" my account to submit only "10" articles per day which pisses me off.

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    You have hit your daily limit of new article submissions.  In order to  help all of our users in the network build backlinks at a steady pace,  we must limit the number of new articles that you can submit each day.
    
    Your article was saved succesfully, but as a draft. You can submit this article tomorrow.
    I want to insert the image here but my account is not allowed to do it. Anyone experience this issue with them?
    Lifetime subscription delay on "draft" articles? As far as they go live within 24-48hrs it's still a valuable network for $47, $67, $97 per month or whatever you end up paying. But this comes to no surprise, it was expected.

    Brad, thought...why not raise the monthly price, promote it way more to your large list of subscribers, eliminate the new 'draft' addition and compensate/reward old subscribers with the entry of new active higher paid memberships?

    Would love for a pre-paid long time option for the elite high PR network for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author ogm
    Brad, if you're reading this...

    I think the solution is to pay site owners for submitting their domains. I personally could contribute 5-10 PR 4-5 sites that I use for my own link building purposes. But I have no incentive to get a flood of junk with someone else's links onto my good PR domains.

    But if I was compensated for it in some form ( preferably monetary ) then I'd be definitely more interested. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one.

    Like the president says.. "Spread the Wealth around"
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
      Originally Posted by ogm View Post

      Brad, if you're reading this...

      I think the solution is to pay site owners for submitting their domains. I personally could contribute 5-10 PR 4-5 sites that I use for my own link building purposes. But I have no incentive to get a flood of junk with someone else's links onto my good PR domains.

      But if I was compensated for it in some form ( preferably monetary ) then I'd be definitely more interested. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one.

      Like the president says.. "Spread the Wealth around"
      Actually, I think he has already done that, for a group of chosen people who wants to use this private network.
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  • Profile picture of the author neil_patmore
    I honestly find very little benefit using these types of systems nowadays. Quite simply there are better ways to build quality backlinks. All of these blog networks are too much work for too little reward. I used to submit quality articles and get 30 submissions on crap sites. Big deal! Go take a look at The Link Juicer or Article Marketing Robot for quality alternatives.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
    Seolinkvine would be fine if it actually distributed 4 articles and published 4 articles a day. The way it is now, you are lucky to get even 1 distribution and publishing a day. The blog owners themselves are being lazy in not approving/disapproving the articles. I have an article from january 16 with 0 approvals or denials as it is still in N/A status. Another one from the same date with 100% approval but 0 publishings. Another one from January 12 with 100% approval yet just 1 publishing. Seolv keeps saying people submiting are the problem when in fact it is the people that should be accepting and publishing the articles are the real problem. They simply don't do it. I have over 7,500 in pending status, I have another 4,000 that are approved yet not published. When it states "Please allow up to 48 hours for your articles to be fully published" I have not submited nothing the past 2 days so by their own quote, all my articles should have been published now. Also, I've been a member since May an no 1 article has been published over 400 times. I've been a member since they were supposedly getting distributed 10 times each a day. I definitely am canceling the day before the next rebill hits.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
      Originally Posted by Sleaklight View Post

      Seolinkvine would be fine if it actually distributed 4 articles and published 4 articles a day. The way it is now, you are lucky to get even 1 distribution and publishing a day. The blog owners themselves are being lazy in not approving/disapproving the articles. I have an article from january 16 with 0 approvals or denials as it is still in N/A status. Another one from the same date with 100% approval but 0 publishings. Another one from January 12 with 100% approval yet just 1 publishing. Seolv keeps saying people submiting are the problem when in fact it is the people that should be accepting and publishing the articles are the real problem. They simply don't do it. I have over 7,500 in pending status, I have another 4,000 that are approved yet not published. When it states "Please allow up to 48 hours for your articles to be fully published" I have not submited nothing the past 2 days so by their own quote, all my articles should have been published now. Also, I've been a member since May an no 1 article has been published over 400 times. I've been a member since they were supposedly getting distributed 10 times each a day. I definitely am canceling the day before the next rebill hits.
      You have 4000 articles in SEOLV system??? That's huge compared to me as I only have 200+ articles. Of course it won't be fair for the rest of the users who are submitting only small percent of what you are submitting. That's why you get limitation of 4 per day.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
        Originally Posted by Joseph Then View Post

        You have 4000 articles in SEOLV system??? That's huge compared to me as I only have 200+ articles. Of course it won't be fair for the rest of the users who are submitting only small percent of what you are submitting. That's why you get limitation of 4 per day.
        I have 4000+ that have been approved and are pending publishing. I have no where near 500 articles submited total there. These are articles that have been presented to the blog owners, have been approved by them and are just sitting there for months on end without actually being published by SEOLV.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Here's the thing Joseph: If a service is built upon getting customer's content published and then fails to do so, whatever the reason, the customer has every right to be upset. It would be one thing to have to wait for directory (eza for instance) approval, that you have no control over. But if it is a blog network, then as the service provider you need to ensure that all those within the network actively review and publish in the stated time frame. Anything else, and it will be bad.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bcrewse1
      I too was a subscriber of SEOLV but got tired of the review process as so many articles were just pure garbage. I did find some every few days to post though and after a couple of months was getting quite a bit of content on my sites. Unfortunately I discovered that a TON of articles I had published had broken links on them. I started using a broken link plugin and to my horror I had a CRAP TON of broken links in which I had to manually go and unlink as Google hates finding a load of broken links on your site. My seo was going to hell in a handbasket. I would recommend anyone using the service to get the broken link checker plugin and run it on your site ASAP. You might be surprised what you find! Not sure why those submitting articles for distribution are not checked their links but it was epidemic on my sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
      Originally Posted by Sleaklight View Post

      The blog owners themselves are being lazy in not approving/disapproving the articles. I have an article from january 16 with 0 approvals or denials as it is still in N/A status.
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      Seolv keeps saying people submiting are the problem when in fact it is the people that should be accepting and publishing the articles are the real problem.
      No. The problem is that people don't want rubbish on their sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Here's the thing Joseph: If a service is built upon getting customer's content published and then fails to do so, whatever the reason, the customer has every right to be upset. It would be one thing to have to wait for directory (eza for instance) approval, that you have no control over. But if it is a blog network, then as the service provider you need to ensure that all those within the network actively review and publish in the stated time frame. Anything else, and it will be bad.
      Perhaps you should try and be a publisher, sign up for SEOLinkvine and receive content, and see the other side of the publishing stuff.

      If not, then perhaps you and others should quit SEOLinkvine. I'm happy with SEOLinkvine because it's distributing at the rate thatI'm OK with. ie 4 articles per day.

      You want a blast of 10-100 articles per day? Go to another network.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeborahDera
    I had been using SEOLinkVine after it first came out but I stopped because the quality of the links (ie. the quality of the sites taking my articles) was pure crud.

    Has that changed?

    Originally Posted by johnwho View Post

    Hi Guys,

    Its been more than 5 months since I used SEOLinkVIne by Brad Callen. I don't have major issue with them until today.

    I normally submit 10-15+ articles per day. But today to my dismay they "LIMIT" my account to submit only "10" articles per day which pisses me off.

    Code:
    You have hit your daily limit of new article submissions.  In order to  help all of our users in the network build backlinks at a steady pace,  we must limit the number of new articles that you can submit each day.
    
    Your article was saved succesfully, but as a draft. You can submit this article tomorrow.
    I want to insert the image here but my account is not allowed to do it. Anyone experience this issue with them?
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  • Profile picture of the author jrafique
    In last one month I did not see any of the link coming from PR1 or PR2 even. Just PR0 or PR-0.

    And the guy Johnwho looks to use seolinkvine for its clients. He will certainly not like limit of 10. There are a lot of excuses that can be given here but take the example of My Article Network by Matt. Submit as much article you want and your articles will start publishing right after you submit them. And the good part is I see a lot of links coming from PR1+ sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author mark@1to101
      My opinion, based on personal experience, is that SEOLinkvine works to some extent, but that it's not as good as...

      -Unique Article Wizard
      -Article Marketing Automation
      -Article Ranks
      -Free Traffic System

      I still use SEOLinkvine though, in addition to the four services listed above, because at submitting, say, 50+ articles a month, it works out to less than a $1 per distribution.

      If you're working from limited funds though, then I'd recommend using one of the other article distribution systems instead of SEOLinkvine.
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      • Profile picture of the author Natlex
        Originally Posted by mark@1to101 View Post

        My opinion, based on personal experience, is that SEOLinkvine works to some extent, but that it's not as good as...

        -Unique Article Wizard
        -Article Marketing Automation
        -Article Ranks
        -Free Traffic System

        I still use SEOLinkvine though, in addition to the four services listed above, because at submitting, say, 50+ articles a month, it works out to less than a $1 per distribution.

        If you're working from limited funds though, then I'd recommend using one of the other article distribution systems instead of SEOLinkvine.
        I have the same results, SEOLv has a really cool interface but like I mention on my blog I saw NO ranking improvements unlike the first 3 services you mentioned ( I don't think I saw much improvements using FTS... Maybe I should try it again)
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        • Profile picture of the author mark@1to101
          Originally Posted by Natlex View Post

          I have the same results, SEOLv has a really cool interface but like I mention on my blog I saw NO ranking improvements unlike the first 3 services you mentioned ( I don't think I saw much improvements using FTS... Maybe I should try it again)
          Free Traffic System is less user friendly than the others but articles you distribute through them can be found in Google a couple of weeks later.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
    As for being on the other side as one accepting content, I am, I have 16 domains receiving content. I manually approve / deny on a daily basis. The get content side is messed up. I get over 10 articles to be published, I deny / approve accordingly and there are days that no content gets published at all. Some days one might be published. Some days I get up to 3 published. In one of the domains, it says I have 29 days pending, yet there is no link for me to approve/articles it says that are pending. and when the link is there, there's no such article there.
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  • Profile picture of the author FivestarHB
    What I really love about SEOLV is the ranking tool - that gives a graph of your Google ranking for the main keyword, updated daily,tracking the last 30 days, makes it real easy to track the progress of your efforts. The Google Dance is an amazing thing when you see it on the SEOLV tracking tool. (Anyone seen a comparable tool?) I use Travis as well. but it doesnt have the sexy graph.

    SIGH, but unfortunately I have to aggree with most of the commentary above. It is degraded significantly from when it started 12 months ago or whatever. tis a shame, twas a great service.
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