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This is the Steve Iser´s new product !

Any Review :confused: Commission Crusher - Triple Threat Commission Cloning System
#bcomission #comission #crusher #heard
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    • Profile picture of the author drluisbarrios

      You already tried this before?
      and as if they just went on sale yesterday
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    • Profile picture of the author Niche-Dominator
      Originally Posted by BIZNEBIZ View Post

      I have been watching this kid for a while...
      He's got something going on... He uses scrape tech to gather databases Through an algorithm finds good spots to advertise... Then he spies the way advertisers are sucking money from those spots and copycat them... His method is different and intelligent...
      Don´t listen to the hype, it's just a selling pitch for newbies...
      He is out tomorrow Feb 15th at Noon...
      The price: a bargain

      10/10

      Regards
      Have you actually tried this or do you just like the guy? We are looking for reviews here....

      Sure the price looks like a bargain so it makes me wonder $47.00 for software that can make you thousands and thousands so quickly.

      Just watched the paypal video where he says ''undeniable proof'' that the software works as he revelas how he made $60,000 in a month with it.

      Well there is no undenial proof as he logs into his paypal account 4 times and each time just shows the balance, no transactions what so ever we don't even know if it's the same paypal account.

      My point is he says here is ''undeniable proof'' well for me it is actually ''deniable'' as he doesn't show any transactions which means he could quite easily of just topped up his paypal account with his own money from his bank account to make it look like he made that money in one week.

      Sorry guys but this looks like it could be another dud, it follows the exact same hype and price point as all the other flops recently. I shall reserve judgement though and may try it just to prove my point.

      Any proper reviews from people who have tried it though most welcome and look forward to hearing from you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Martin Percival
        Just a quick update on what to expect in the sales pitch.

        First, expect to watch a lot of video before you get to the end (even if you only take the basic product). They all auto-reveal the "no thanks" and "upgrade" links after several minutes of watching.

        You'll get 2 upsells and 2 downsells. In order:

        UP - 10 already profitable campaigns $297
        DOWN - Only 5 campaigns $197
        UP - Commission Worm $197 (no idea what this is - traffic related)
        DOWN - Worm for $97 ('cos you know you want it so much!)

        All a bit long-winded to be honest...and even at $97 I wasn't convinced enough by the promise of the Worm....so I'm in for the base product.

        Just quickly looking at the inside materials, I quite like Steve's style. I'll check out the software in a while and report back.

        Just as a PS though, I REALLY didn't like being called a "wannabee" in the first upsell video - I'd only just parted with my cash. Lesson to be learned for any launches I ever do - no matter how cocky the persona you are trying to portray, don't insult your new customers before pitching more stuff to them
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  • Profile picture of the author mathew2812
    Hmmm I just listened to the Hype for a while
    I wonder has any one tried it yet?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jos Espo
      Ok here is the review... First... DON'T LISTEN TO THE HYPE

      Yes, this package is new, but this kid has been around doing beta testing and that is how I know what it is about.

      The package contains 3 long videos, 1 software and a page with free resources... HE IS SELLING A SYSTEM (METHOD)

      The content is newbie oriented...

      video 1.- Intro --> has no real content... He tells us where he stands...
      video 2.- Using networks, reverse engineering and scientific epc...
      video 3.- Research and other stuff (I won't tell, because this is what he is selling... It's bad Karma to give away other person's stuff)

      He is giving away for free +-$2,000 worth, professionally designed, seo optimized, stand alone, profit proven web pages (you got to pay for domain name and hosting - Price? don't know - He might be associated with the hosting company)

      Grants entrance to a closed network just for getting his system... (He might be associated with this network)

      He is also selling a 5 profitable ongoing ad campaigns package (he sets them up for you) +-$200.

      Note: I am not associated with him... I am just telling you what the package contains an what this guy is telling us...

      As I see it:

      The software is worth more than the price he is asking for the package...
      I have ran the software for my own purposes and it works...
      There is a software upgrade... Price? don't know - I use the standard version...

      again 10/10


      Regards...
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      • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
        Originally Posted by BIZNEBIZ View Post


        Grants entrance to a closed network just for getting his system... (He might be associated with this network)
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        What is that close network? CPA network? Affiliate? Or some advertising company? What the software does?
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        • Profile picture of the author Jos Espo
          Originally Posted by Azlan.MY View Post

          What is that close network? CPA network? Affiliate? Or some advertising company? What the software does?
          I think mostly CPA... but...

          As I see it, an affiliate network englobes (covers) all kinds of commission earnings; including CPA...

          What I think is interesting in this one, is that it has a very easy interface... ie. by country, by type of commission, etc. (but don't take my word for it, I don't work with them)

          The thing is... That you can actually use this guy's method on any network you want...

          I guess he grants access to this one, as for newbies (with out web presence) is difficult to enter a big network... you see...





          I am going to give all you guys a tip...


          The software is the "Keyword" here... and again... "KEYWORD" --> one by one

          And again... DO NOT LISTEN TO ALL THE HYPEEEEEEEE


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  • Profile picture of the author Netcat
    The sales page sounds so incredibly good I just want to jump in and buy! Will wait a bit though for more reviews when you've had some time to work the system. Thanks for the reviews so far everyone. Please do come back with a review before you go off to Boracay or wherever you are going with all the money you are going to make!
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    • Profile picture of the author drluisbarrios
      I see that no one has tested the software !

      And the person recommending it gave no details, suspect
      there is something hidden?
      only creates curiosity?
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        Check biznebiz post above. He is using it.
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  • Profile picture of the author SShip
    I bought this tonight. I'm watching the second video at this time. He is soooo much more pleasant in his program. He is giving you step-by-step instruction on what to do. He is literally walking us through everything as he's doing it and we can see it. I've got another video to go through before we get to the software. I'll post more as I go through it. So far, I have to say, I like it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kdad
    I am very new at all this sort of stuff. Do you think he will really stop selling this after 500 sales
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  • Profile picture of the author John Reed
    Queries:
    1. Do you need to set up a separate Domain/Site for each of the Campaigns?

    2. I guess these so-called 17 campaigns, somewhere in the video also mentioned as 170 (17x10), are the same ones as those in the 5 Campaigns for $197?

    3. And, as Steve is almost certainly hoping to sell thousands of these, despite the "limited access" garbage, won't these campaigns all be so diluted as to be of very reduced value?

    I've bought into the $47 and don't really have the funds to go deeper, but if I thought there was really some value to be gained from it (with cash realisable within a month or two) I would find the funds to step up.

    As it's a Clickbank Purchase I'm prepared to try this out - though I just can't abide this style of long-winded ranting garbage in these ridiculous video sales pitches!!!

    John O'York
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    • Profile picture of the author SOUND
      Hi John, hope you are going to keep us updated on this
      will check for update tomorrow.
      as I feel if this is any good it will work well for the first few
      before it becomes saturated (this is to all who posted on this)
      Thank you/Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author Jos Espo
      Originally Posted by John Reed View Post

      1. Do you need to set up a separate Domain/Site for each of the Campaigns?
      No necessarily, the campaigns can stand without a web page...

      Originally Posted by John Reed View Post

      2. I guess these so-called 17 campaigns, somewhere in the video also mentioned as 170 (17x10), are the same ones as those in the 5 Campaigns for $197?
      No, each one is different... You'll have to talk to the guy...

      Originally Posted by John Reed View Post

      3. And, as Steve is almost certainly hoping to sell thousands of these, despite the "limited access" garbage, won't these campaigns all be so diluted as to be of very reduced value?
      No... Why? It´s a new ball game... Actually old, but it was hidden...

      Originally Posted by John Reed View Post

      I've bought into the $47 and don't really have the funds to go deeper, but if I thought there was really some value to be gained from it (with cash realisable within a month or two) I would find the funds to step up.
      Get going with the basic program... The funds will come if you take action...
      If you have extra cash now, buy the other stuff...

      Originally Posted by John Reed View Post

      As it's a Clickbank Purchase I'm prepared to try this out - though I just can't abide this style of long-winded ranting garbage in these ridiculous video sales pitches!!!
      Here here... But don't listen to the hype... It is meant for newbies...

      Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author DreamShaper
      Originally Posted by John Reed View Post

      Queries:
      1. Do you need to set up a separate Domain/Site for each of the Campaigns?

      2. I guess these so-called 17 campaigns, somewhere in the video also mentioned as 170 (17x10), are the same ones as those in the 5 Campaigns for $197?

      3. And, as Steve is almost certainly hoping to sell thousands of these, despite the "limited access" garbage, won't these campaigns all be so diluted as to be of very reduced value?

      I've bought into the $47 and don't really have the funds to go deeper, but if I thought there was really some value to be gained from it (with cash realisable within a month or two) I would find the funds to step up.

      As it's a Clickbank Purchase I'm prepared to try this out - though I just can't abide this style of long-winded ranting garbage in these ridiculous video sales pitches!!!

      John O'York


      Hi John:

      Save your money if you are thinking of upgrades. And in fact get a refund and buy something else. If you are new then this product is too misleading for you to trust.

      This is of course my own opinion - others may differ. But I strongly suggest you read carefully all posts from the Warriors who have identified reasons NOT to buy this.

      Warrior of Truth especially had a very practical report (with disappointing test result) of one of the upsells

      Anyway I bought earlier today and am going to review the software in detail here for you.

      I'm a software developer myself and it is disappointing for the integrity of the whole industry when exaggerated claims are made requiring a technical understanding many do not have easy access to to disprove.

      Above is my intro to you John. Below is the review I just finished writing.

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      If you are a newbie do NOT touch this with a barge pole. You will likely lose money. See the report page 1(?) of this thread from experienced Warrior (Warrior of Truth) who lost $800.

      If you are experienced and curious about the software – don’t bother – but read further below to see why if you need.

      This MAYBE can teach a beginner but any value is in the training NOT the software. And the impression given by the software and hype is so misleading that newbies are likely to waste a lot of money and get disappointed I feel.

      Will be refunding myself immediately after this 2 hour test. Very very disappointed.

      I should have known better:

      The sales letter is all blind sales strategy – a warning in itself.

      It uses false scarcity throughout – a lie.

      The main tout seems to be the hosting once one is inside. And it is repeatedly pushed. Claiming you are getting a website valued at $1995 for free. Well in exchange for the hosting fee of $4.95 - $9.95 per month depending on how long you buy for.

      The $1,995 price tag for the business/professional website is ridiculously inflated for today. To be fair I am sure there are many unsophisticated buyers still paying these kind of prices for websites so the claim is not totally untrue. But it is way way overpriced for anyone with access an information resource and a buying resource like these Warrior forums.



      I only bought it because I wanted to see if the software actually worked AND if it was a useful tool for info related to media buying.

      Need to stop wasting my time on things like this. But so often it is impossible to tell from review just what the software does.

      So I hope this detailed critique of the software will help some other Warrior thinking of buying for the software to save their time.

      Great reviews on this forum from independent warriors warning NOT to buy it. I have not been through all the product videos and probably will not.

      There IS some useful information in the videos for newbies to internet marketing and ideas of media buying. But the difference between this as a training course and ‘software that will automate your crushing of the competition’ is like night and day. Plus the misleading hype probably wipes out any useful value in the training anyway.

      Talk about the need for truth in marketing. It is precisely because of promotions like this ( and far worse) that Government regulators are all over internet advertising practices.

      THE SOFTWARE
      The software he calls AD ASSAULT is the key software that is to enable you to CRUSH the competition.


      HAS 1 MILLION WEBSITES (ONLY)
      So let’s look at this software. He himself said the database underlying the software had about a million websites in it and he will keep adding more.

      This is underwhelming since the sales materials indicate that his software will help you take advantage of the WHOLE internet of millions (billions?) of sites. Which is clearly impossible with a database of just 1 million sites.

      MINIMAL INFO RETURNED
      The amount of information returned by the searches is also underwhelming.
      It tells you the url (clickable) for the website, the amount of traffic it has for site, and – if it knows – whether site accepts ads or not. It does not say on screen if traffic volume is daily, weekly or monthly although I assume it does somewhere in the videos or elsewhere on site.

      QUALITY OF INFO POOR
      I searched using the software for the term REIKI (an alternative healing therapy)
      Not a particularly common term perhaps BUT google.com finds 15,900,000 websites.
      AD Assault returned 1 page of information from its database
      Those results are pictured in this post IF I am allowed to add pictures

      (Can't see quickly how to embed so just adding the screen shots as attachments if you are interested)


      In any case I will summarize the results here

      NUMBER OF RESULTS VERY LOW
      Ad Assault returned about 36 rows of results of which only the top 10 had any traffic volume cited.

      Rest showed 0 for traffic.

      Of the 10 results which had traffic for some reason 2 websites appeared twice each.
      www.reiki-for-holistic-health.com
      and
      www.reiki.org

      DUPLICATED ROWS IN SEARCH RESULTS
      In fact any search seems to pull back results which contain duplicate rows of information. Searching for health for example (gets 10 pages of around 36 results per page) has many websites on first pages with duplicate rows.


      This is NOT a good sign of software quality. Duplicate data rows should be removed before display. This misleads as to the number of results returned by any search.



      TRAFFIC VOLUME QUESTIONABLE?

      Quantcast data for traffic volume for www.reiki-for-holistic-health.com seemed to roughly match the data in Ad Assault

      Anyway I grabbed just one of the results from Google
      www.trainingreiki.com
      and plugged it into www.compete.com to see what I got.
      Compete says this site gets 1,000 or 2,000 visitors daily (if I am reading it correctly on my first visit)

      Ad Assault has 0 traffic for this site – so not very helpful. Compete data MAY be unverified to be fair. But not looking good for Ad Assault.


      I was actually trying to find a search result from Google not in Ad Assault results that had lots of traffic. But I ran out of time. There WILL be many such. Just have a look for yourself if you want. I have no more time to check volumes on results

      The fact that I only get roughly 36 results out of Ad Assault while google produces over 15 million sites should speak for itself. This software cannot possible give you comprehensive coverage of most keywords searched for.

      It might be that the argument is that this is for highly popular topics and that as people are interested in more topics then he will add them to the database. But then the software should not deliver the results it does for a search term like reiki because this could completely mislead newbies.


      NEITHER LANGUAGE NOR COUNTRY FILTERING?

      A further issue is that there seems to be neither geographic filter nor language filter on the search results.

      One of the 36 or so reiki results is an English language website for a business based in Helsinki Finland.
      Usui Reiki Traditional Master Teacher

      And at least one result was in a non-English language
      reiki massage oosterhesselen


      If we go back to a popular term like health
      Then google.com finds 1,110,000,000 websites
      That's over 1,000 million sites (over 1 billion for Americans I think, Brits count differently:-)

      Ad Assault gets 10 pages of about 36 results each for under 400 websites total results! And in fact it’s probably under 300 total results since even on page 10 many of the websites are listed twice! (I don't care if there might be a 'pro' version that unlocks more results - what I paid for just is not doing the job it was touted to me as!)

      It really doesn't matter how good the video training is in media buying. The implication that this software will allow you to COMPREHENSIVELY out market the competition just does not stand up based on the numbers of results it gets compared to the number of websites out there.


      Thanks again to all the honest Warriors who gave the thumbs down on this product


      Dreamshaper
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      • Profile picture of the author Sonja
        Originally Posted by DreamShaper View Post

        Save your money if you are thinking of upgrades. And in fact get a refund and buy something else. If you are new then this product is too misleading for you to trust.

        This is of course my own opinion - others may differ. But I strongly suggest you read carefully all posts from the Warriors who have identified reasons NOT to buy this.

        Warrior of Truth especially had a very practical report (with disappointing test result) of one of the upsells

        Anyway I bought earlier today and am going to review the software in detail here for you.

        I'm a software developer myself and it is disappointing for the integrity of the whole industry when exaggerated claims are made requiring a technical understanding many do not have easy access to to disprove.

        Above is my intro to you John. Below is the review I just finished writing.

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        If you are a newbie do NOT touch this with a barge pole. You will likely lose money. See the report page 1(?) of this thread from experienced Warrior (Warrior of Truth) who lost $800.

        If you are experienced and curious about the software - don't bother - but read further below to see why if you need.

        This MAYBE can teach a beginner but any value is in the training NOT the software. And the impression given by the software and hype is so misleading that newbies are likely to waste a lot of money and get disappointed I feel.

        Will be refunding myself immediately after this 2 hour test. Very very disappointed.

        I should have known better:
        .......
        All,

        DreamShaper speaks the truth. Listen to him and all of the other people telling you to stay away from this. I have seen this program first hand as well and promptly got a refund. DreamShaper has done an excellent job describing to you whats DEFINTELY NOT in the program so you have been warned.

        DreamShaper, I had the same thoughts soon after watching those videos, I should have known better .
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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    I wouldn't buy anything from a BLIND sales letter.


    meaning, if you can't show me the software or system in action, then I dont want it.

    Show me real proof. Good software and systems sell themselves! You dont need hype if the product is as good as they say it is!
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    • Profile picture of the author John Reed
      So, I was torn between thinking it was all just too much Hype, I didn't like the sales pitch style at all, and wanting to try the system out after reading what BizneBiz had to say about it.....

      I saved and opened each separate offer so I had them all in separate Firefox tabs, and after a lot of thought (and movement of very limited funds) I went back and accepted:

      a. the 5 Sites for $197
      b. the Worm at $97
      I then went for the so-called Free Website, which cost me (from memory) much more than I'd expected:
      $15 Domain Registration (usually much less at namecheap) , about $50+ for 6 months hosting, and a $20 arrangement fee (ie, money for old rope!!). There were pages of extras on offer, many of which I already get thrown in with my normal D9 Hosting!!!! I turned them all down.

      I have invested much more than I intended to to here and am about to try working through the package to find out how it all works. As I've been working in heavy clay wielding a pickaxe and Hammer + Cold chisel most of the day taking out old concrete based fence posts and putting in new ones, I am extremely fatigued....
      I find that I'm now unable to sustain such violent effort without several breaks!!
      I really felt like a Pensioner by this evening (the point being that I AM one), so forgive me for dozing off whilst trying to watch the videos......

      I will report back but it may not be for at least another 24 hours!

      John O'York
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  • Profile picture of the author Vincenzo Oliva
    This is Steve's 3rd spin on the same method.
    "DirtyCPA" was the 1st.
    "Commission Cloner" was the 2nd
    "Commission Crusher" is the latest.

    They all involve finding a offer that's selling, has good traffic, and finding ads, and monitoring them for a week to insure they're making money and cloning the ad.

    The software basically scrapes the stats from Quantcast/Alexa. It saves some time but you can can the same info from Quantcast and Alexa. Say you type in the root word "Muscle" you'll get a list of the top traffic sites that feature that term, and weither or not they accept ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author PixelPen
    BIZNEBIZ,
    Did you make any money with this yet? Does it really work? I know the initial video is hype, but what is real?
    How long does it take for the software to work? How many computers do you have to run to make it worth while?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Stovall
    Here is my two nickels worth in all this. Watched the pitch Video over and over again and said to my self " there has to be a up sale to all this!! "bada bing bada boom"...You guys answered this, thanks.

    Barrier of entry: Moderate to High.

    Do you make $$?: Remains to be seen in who does and what they did to make it.

    Newbie Candy: Yes

    Veterans Involved: Open

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author rosalyn
      I also watched that "over-hyped" sales letter with some interest, and was thoroughly confused about what the software was supposed to do. Didn't care for his tone or manner, but figured it was worth looking into. And I knew exactly where to go for the information.

      I appreciate everyone who gave a review -- or just an opinion -- about this product so I knew how to proceed without stumbling around blind.

      Many thanks,

      Rosalyn
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      • Profile picture of the author Purplemagic
        Originally Posted by rosalyn View Post

        I also watched that "over-hyped" sales letter with some interest, and was thoroughly confused about what the software was supposed to do. Didn't care for his tone or manner, but figured it was worth looking into. And I knew exactly where to go for the information.

        I appreciate everyone who gave a review -- or just an opinion -- about this product so I knew how to proceed without stumbling around blind.

        Many thanks,

        Rosalyn
        Rosalyn
        Steve has employed one of the most powerful advanced communication tools in his opening video and sales page. Its often called the "Negative Sell" and going by the comments so far in this thread...its obviously working. Before I retired I was in Sales and used this technique many times successfully. On the surface he alienates you however you keep watching/listening waiting to see what insult he dishes up next. Somehow though we seem compelled to stay with him and in the end buy! In my own case I watched the video on my Nexus One last night...was intrigued..and then slept on it. Today I read the sales letter and decided to buy too. Why? Well I'm into CPA and it was the comments in the reviews on this forum that spurred my decision.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by ScamScouts View Post

      Watched the pitch Video over and over again
      Thanks
      Really-are you a masochist? I don't mind being insulted-if it's funny, (Rich Jerk always made me laugh when he called us all "losers"), but this guy, try as he does, isn't the least bit funny-lame speech, and a voice like nails on a chalkboard.

      Even without the unfunny, faux arrogant insult humor, this type of sales page is soooo tired.

      Seriously, how many times have you seen the pitch about a revolutionary "secret software that makes me 200k+ a month at the push of a button", with the back-story about how "I just ripped off the evil guru that doesn't really want his buyers to succeed, but I outsmarted him and got him to reveal...."? Enough to never want to see it again? Me too.

      Although I have to admit that one of them was pretty funny-maybe you saw the one where the evil guru was stupidly (conveniently) carrying his multi-million dollar software disc around in his coat pocket during a night of drinking, and our guy sees it fall out of his pocket, steals it, and is now helping us all get back at the big boys by letting 500 of us have it for only $37. Nice guy-a thief, but nice. (How generous is it that he takes time out of his button pushing schedule [each push makes 10K+], to create an elaborate sale funnel, only to limit it so severely that he won't even clear $10K on the campaign, after paying affiliates-pretty close to a break-even for him, I guess because he doesn't need the money-just wants to help 500 losers finally get rich online?)

      Following the miraculous software pitch with "I just want to help people, and I'm slamming the door shut after 500 are sold"; he's just provided the only real undeniable proof on the page-not proof of how rich the software is making him, but proof that you just can't trust a word out of his mouth.

      Hope it works for some of you, but I guess I'll stick to buying from people who haven't shown me they're liars within 10 seconds of hitting the sales page.

      Sorry for the rant, but I'm tired of the charlatans that take us all for gullible childish dreamers cluttering the IM space.

      Here's my (top secret-from a former internet millionaire, turned Tibetan monk I had to go on a ten day trek over the icy crevasses of the Himalayan range to find), formula for saving a lot of time in my quest for online wealth; are you ready for me to give it away FREE!? Here goes: repeat this magic mantra 10 times every morning, noon, and night, while doing a headstand, and tugging your right earlobe with your left hand: "THERE IS NO EASY BUTTON-NO SECRET THE EVIL GURUS DON"T WANT ME TO KNOW. IF ANYONE SAYS THERE IS, I PROMISE MYSELF TO CLICK AWAY WITHOUT DROOLING OR BUYING, AND GET BACK TO BUILDING MY BIZ!"
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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    OK, I BOUGHT THIS JUST SO I CAN PROVE TO YOU GUYS THAT ITS A CRAP PRODUCT AND YOU SHOULD TRUST ME NEXT TIME I SAY DONT BUY A PRODUCT FROM A BLIND SALES LETTER...Wow I feel bad for anyone who falls for this product...

    It is NOTHING SPECIAL... and nothing you can't DO ON YOUR OWN

    all you are paying for is a "software" tool (if you can call it that) it's a web-based tool that does the SAME THING that Quantcast and Alexa do..

    and then you are paying for TRAINING VIDEOS that teach you how to "download dreamweaver" and "use FTP", find people who are already advertising a CLICKBANK PRODUCT to see if they are making money (by watching them for a week to see if they keep advertising then that means they MUST be making money.. wow amazing strategy and totally not true...)

    and then... do what with all this info?

    ...ADVERTISE A CLICKBANK OFFER AS AN AFFILIATE... WOW... AMAZING... wait, I thought this had nothing to do with clickbank???


    As for all the upsells... wow if you fall for that "done for you" crap with over-priced hosting and cookie-cutter templates and supposedly instant traffic.. then you deserve to lose your money.


    Lastly all I can say is that this guy does not look rich... cuz it looks like he filmed the videos in an apartment or something, he needs a haircut desperately, and a new wardrobe... and he drinks way too much coffee.

    Other than that, this course was NOTHING that I didn't already know. the software is crap, AND there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF that he even made money with this method!!!

    It was worth the $37 just to give you guys an honest review.


    P.S. Shame on you Steve Iser! Get a real product worth selling and you wont need such a HYPED up sales letter and video.
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      • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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        Originally Posted by BIZNEBIZ View Post

        Yes Perhaps...

        But allow me do a paragon here, if you will...

        Would you rather take a pencil to a calculus exam, or a scientific calculator?



        Regards
        Nice metaphor, but it doesnt really fit this situation.

        The only thing this course really covers is market research.. Business Marketing 101.

        I wouldn't really call it a calculus exam.


        Besides..

        It's funny you talk about a pencil to an exam..

        since all he freaking did in this training course it find some websites and write them down...

        not sure if he used a pen or a pencil...

        but that was the most complicated thing he "TAUGHT" if you can call it that..

        so again,

        your metaphor doesn't fit at all but nice try.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jos Espo
          Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

          I wouldn't really call it a calculus exam.
          Actually... in the near future, IM is going to become more like a calculus exam.
          (I believe it - But don´t take my word as fact... I´m nobody here at WF :p)

          Good thing you got down your AlexaTM...

          Any way...

          Nice talking to you my Friend...
          (I know you liked the pencil/calc thing You don't have to tell)

          Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
      Jason, cool name... But that's about all you have going for you on this review of yours. Unlike you, I actually went through the whole course with a fine toothed comb and I have a totally different opinion.

      Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

      Lastly all I can say is that this guy does not look rich... cuz it looks like he filmed the videos in an apartment or something, he needs a haircut desperately, and a new wardrobe... and he drinks way too much coffee.
      First of all... this paragraph cracks me up since he's sitting in a Las Vegas hotel. (Go to Vegas and I promise you'll be drinking coffee... like that matters if a product creator drinks coffee, but anyway...).

      As for appearances and the lifestyles of MOST millionaires, you need to read the Millionaire Next Door case studies.

      Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

      and then you are paying for TRAINING VIDEOS that teach you how to "download dreamweaver" and "use FTP", find people who are already advertising a CLICKBANK PRODUCT to see if they are making money (by watching them for a week to see if they keep advertising then that means they MUST be making money.. wow amazing strategy and totally not true...)
      The product shows you how to profit from media buying from start to finish. So yes, you're going to get the beginner to advanced training. Fact is, 90% of people who will buy are absolute newbies, so the basic training videos aren't for you.

      Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

      and then... do what with all this info?

      ...ADVERTISE A CLICKBANK OFFER AS AN AFFILIATE... WOW... AMAZING... wait, I thought this had nothing to do with clickbank???
      The product covers ClickBank AND most major CPA networks.

      Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

      Other than that, this course was NOTHING that I didn't already know.
      Doubtful... Based on your shallow review, you didn't even go through the course.

      Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

      P.S. Shame on you Steve Iser! Get a real product worth selling and you wont need such a HYPED up sales letter and video.
      Shame on you for giving an unprofessional, incomplete, and overall bogus review.
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      • Profile picture of the author njp
        Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

        Jason, cool name... But that's about all you have going for you on this review of yours. Unlike you, I actually went through the whole course with a fine toothed comb and I have a totally different opinion.



        First of all... this paragraph cracks me up since he's sitting in a Las Vegas hotel. (Go to Vegas and I promise you'll be drinking coffee... like that matters if a product creator drinks coffee, but anyway...).

        As for appearances and the lifestyles of MOST millionaires, you need to read the Millionaire Next Door case studies.



        The product shows you how to profit from media buying from start to finish. So yes, you're going to get the beginner to advanced training. Fact is, 90% of people who will buy are absolute newbies, so the basic training videos aren't for you.



        The product covers ClickBank AND most major CPA networks.



        Doubtful... Based on your shallow review, you didn't even go through the course.



        Shame on you for giving an unprofessional, incomplete, and overall bogus review.
        Thanks for letting us know about the "media buying" aspect...I just bought the CC software at the basic level and actually I need to know about media buying..so your insight is helpful, though I made the purchase just before reading this thread...
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      • Profile picture of the author RuthBabe
        Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

        Jason, cool name... But that's about all you have going for you on this review of yours. Unlike you, I actually went through the whole course with a fine toothed comb and I have a totally different opinion.



        First of all... this paragraph cracks me up since he's sitting in a Las Vegas hotel. (Go to Vegas and I promise you'll be drinking coffee... like that matters if a product creator drinks coffee, but anyway...).

        As for appearances and the lifestyles of MOST millionaires, you need to read the Millionaire Next Door case studies.



        The product shows you how to profit from media buying from start to finish. So yes, you're going to get the beginner to advanced training. Fact is, 90% of people who will buy are absolute newbies, so the basic training videos aren't for you.



        The product covers ClickBank AND most major CPA networks.



        Doubtful... Based on your shallow review, you didn't even go through the course.



        Shame on you for giving an unprofessional, incomplete, and overall bogus review.
        Wow! Lot of people thank you for useful post. But I don't see what's useful in your post. I would be glad and will thank you if you could post that you earned from this product and how MUCH!
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

      OK, I BOUGHT THIS JUST SO I CAN PROVE TO YOU GUYS THAT ITS A CRAP PRODUCT AND YOU SHOULD TRUST ME NEXT TIME I SAY DONT BUY A PRODUCT FROM A BLIND SALES LETTER...Wow I feel bad for anyone who falls for this product...

      It is NOTHING SPECIAL... and nothing you can't DO ON YOUR OWN

      all you are paying for is a "software" tool (if you can call it that) it's a web-based tool that does the SAME THING that Quantcast and Alexa do..

      and then you are paying for TRAINING VIDEOS that teach you how to "download dreamweaver" and "use FTP", find people who are already advertising a CLICKBANK PRODUCT to see if they are making money (by watching them for a week to see if they keep advertising then that means they MUST be making money.. wow amazing strategy and totally not true...)

      and then... do what with all this info?

      ...ADVERTISE A CLICKBANK OFFER AS AN AFFILIATE... WOW... AMAZING... wait, I thought this had nothing to do with clickbank???


      As for all the upsells... wow if you fall for that "done for you" crap with over-priced hosting and cookie-cutter templates and supposedly instant traffic.. then you deserve to lose your money.


      Lastly all I can say is that this guy does not look rich... cuz it looks like he filmed the videos in an apartment or something, he needs a haircut desperately, and a new wardrobe... and he drinks way too much coffee.

      Other than that, this course was NOTHING that I didn't already know. the software is crap, AND there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF that he even made money with this method!!!

      It was worth the $37 just to give you guys an honest review.


      P.S. Shame on you Steve Iser! Get a real product worth selling and you wont need such a HYPED up sales letter and video.
      Dude, what the hell are you talking about? There is nothing wrong with this product. It is a software program that makes it easier to find sites to advertise on. That is not a scam, or a rip off, it is a valid method for making money. And what the hell does needing a hair cut and drinking coffee have to do with anything? Oh, by the way, if you had actually paid attention to the videos, you would have known he was filming from a hotel room. Not that that matters either. What if he was filming from an apartment? Furthermore, I don't care if he has made one single dime doing this. He doesn't have to make money doing this for me to know that advertising on websites works.

      Spare us your "honest" reviews in the future.
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffmac
      Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

      OK, I BOUGHT THIS JUST SO I CAN PROVE TO YOU GUYS THAT ITS A CRAP PRODUCT AND YOU SHOULD TRUST ME NEXT TIME I SAY DONT BUY A PRODUCT FROM A BLIND SALES LETTER...Wow I feel bad for anyone who falls for this product...

      It is NOTHING SPECIAL... and nothing you can't DO ON YOUR OWN

      all you are paying for is a "software" tool (if you can call it that) it's a web-based tool that does the SAME THING that Quantcast and Alexa do..

      and then you are paying for TRAINING VIDEOS that teach you how to "download dreamweaver" and "use FTP", find people who are already advertising a CLICKBANK PRODUCT to see if they are making money (by watching them for a week to see if they keep advertising then that means they MUST be making money.. wow amazing strategy and totally not true...)

      and then... do what with all this info?

      ...ADVERTISE A CLICKBANK OFFER AS AN AFFILIATE... WOW... AMAZING... wait, I thought this had nothing to do with clickbank???


      As for all the upsells... wow if you fall for that "done for you" crap with over-priced hosting and cookie-cutter templates and supposedly instant traffic.. then you deserve to lose your money.


      Lastly all I can say is that this guy does not look rich... cuz it looks like he filmed the videos in an apartment or something, he needs a haircut desperately, and a new wardrobe... and he drinks way too much coffee.

      Other than that, this course was NOTHING that I didn't already know. the software is crap, AND there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF that he even made money with this method!!!

      It was worth the $37 just to give you guys an honest review.


      P.S. Shame on you Steve Iser! Get a real product worth selling and you wont need such a HYPED up sales letter and video.
      Thanks for doing that Jasonthewebmaster. I kinda guessed as much about this offer, but its gravity is still rising, so I was getting very curious, it's not just the money, I cant waste anymore time finding out about this stuff if its just a rehash. Maybe someone on here should be a full time tester!...Anyway thanks, good karma should come your way soon
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    • Profile picture of the author Jaymez
      Stick A Fork In It......The little *******s done! Thanks for review.
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      • Profile picture of the author mistermint
        Hi jenifer00

        As for the commission worm, it's a WP plug-in that autoblogs for you and displays your banner ads with each blog post. It seems pretty cool, if it works, but I set mine up to post every two hours and it hasn't posted for almost 3 hours. I'm going to see what happens the rest of today, but I may be on the refund train here as I just can't imagine "support" meeting my needs here.
        I would be a bit careful with your blog and not set to post every 3 hours...it's a bit of no no IMO...I got a few autoblogs deindexed in the G shake up..still looking at it but, I think auto posts were being posted too fast...also, you can find free plugins to put ads in each post..

        Gordon.
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  • Profile picture of the author slade12
    I have tried his products and he is good but, its made me no money as yet,He is quiet cocky in his video he does give you quality.
    I think it depends on the time also that you put into learning and implementing his strategies.
    He does alot of CPA Media buys etc, it may be hard for newbies to get into the networks as i found out and some of them require a big deposit .
    weither this will equate to Money really depends on the amount of time you are willing to put into it and if you have a web site up but i dont know how this program works.

    Has anyone made money from his software yet? I'd love to hear some feedback i get sick of the Hype. Up sells down sells etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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      Originally Posted by slade12 View Post

      I have tried his products and he is good but, its made me no money as yet,He is quiet cocky in his video he does give you quality.
      I think it depends on the time also that you put into learning and implementing his strategies.
      He does alot of CPA Media buys etc, it may be hard for newbies to get into the networks as i found out and some of them require a big deposit .
      weither this will equate to Money really depends on the amount of time you are willing to put into it and if you have a web site up but i dont know how this program works.

      Has anyone made money from his software yet? I'd love to hear some feedback i get sick of the Hype. Up sells down sells etc.

      The software doesnt make money.. so the answer is no... nobody makes money with this software because ALL IT IS IS RESEARCH SOFTWARE...

      It depends on what you do with that research!! Which again, he barely covers... and all his suggestion is at the end to do is submit a contact us form to some websites asking them if you can advertise on their site!!!

      WOW AMAZING STRATEGY (NOT) wtf are some people still actually considering this? guess ur the ones who learn the hard way...
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  • Profile picture of the author SShip
    I sent questions a couple of days ago to Steve/support and have not heard anything back yet. I'll give them another day. It drives me crazy when you have questions and they don't respond.
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    • Profile picture of the author wayfoward
      Originally Posted by Fruzzlies View Post

      I sent questions a couple of days ago to Steve/support and have not heard anything back yet. I'll give them another day. It drives me crazy when you have questions and they don't respond.
      I had the same problem - support, what support?. I wish these people would use a pauseable video or at least be able to fast forward to last bit you remember, one vids over 70 min long! A handy page with all the formulas he uses would be good. Need to be armed with pen & paper. I'll get some rest & go through stage 3 vid again.

      Next offer like this I'm interested in I'll download it first & pay for it after if i think it's worth it. I paid $37 for this one.
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      • Profile picture of the author SShip
        Originally Posted by wayfoward View Post

        I had the same problem - support, what support?. I wish these people would use a pauseable video or at least be able to fast forward to last bit you remember, one vids over 70 min long! A handy page with all the formulas he uses would be good. Need to be armed with pen & paper. I'll get some rest & go through stage 3 vid again.

        Next offer like this I'm interested in I'll download it first & pay for it after if i think it's worth it. I paid $37 for this one.

        Funny thing. As soon as I posted that, I got a PM from him with this email address asking me to email him personally. I emailed him with my questions, got very incomplete answers, kindly explained to him people like to receive what they are told they will receive from the sales letter. He emailed back stating "noted" and he insisted he refund me. That was the end of it. My refund was instant, within minutes. I guess he didn't like me. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Jos Espo
          Grav: 919.07

          Tell me: Frog
          I tell you: How high?
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  • Profile picture of the author SShip
    This kind of stuff makes me mad as well. I just got this email below and he still hasn't responded to my support request. I realize that this is most likely an autoresponder, but your customers should be #1 and you shouldn't send this stuff after we've purchased it.

    Hey,

    A couple of people have been
    asking me if there's a discount
    available for Commission Crusher.

    The answer?

    Yes there is - $10 off the sticker
    price:

    (==>link)

    Although I'm not sure how long
    I plan to keep it up though.

    So grab it while you can.

    Peace,
    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author NickArnold
      I bought this and I happen to agree with jasonthewebmaster.

      The course is a guide to making money as an as an affiliate through clickbank or CPA networks using PPC. Stuff I already knew about...

      So unless you've got money to spare for PPC, this isn't for you.

      Steve says in the videos all you have to do is watch and follow him, copy what he's doing and you will make money.

      Unfortunately he stops before he actually does anything. No evidence of him setting up a profitable campaign. Nothing.

      All just the same old theory we've heard before.

      On the sales page there is a video of him logging into paypal and making over $40,000 in profit in one month.

      We assume that is profit at the time. However it isn't profit if he's used PPC. For all we know he could've spent $35,000 on generating this cash... Hell, he could've spent more than $40,000.

      Now if there was a video showing this campaign actually being set up that would be useful. But there isn't...

      As for the software. It doesn't give you any data that you can't extract from free websites.

      The course is a good if you're new to affiliate marketing and cpa. Steve knows his stuff and is very good in front of the camera. However it wasn't for me. All the same old theory I've already been taught before.

      If he can actually make $40,000 in a month using these methods, show us, show us the campaign happening. How you set it up, etc. If you can do it why just tell us theory?

      So if you want to know about cpa and affiliate marketing and you're new maybe this course will be good for you. if you're looking for something new, or you think the software will do most of the work for you (as suggested on the sales page) then you better think again...
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Originally Posted by NickArnold View Post

        I bought this and I happen to agree with jasonthewebmaster.

        The course is a guide to making money as an as an affiliate through clickbank or CPA networks using PPC. Stuff I already knew about...

        So unless you've got money to spare for PPC, this isn't for you.

        Steve says in the videos all you have to do is watch and follow him, copy what he's doing and you will make money.

        Unfortunately he stops before he actually does anything. No evidence of him setting up a profitable campaign. Nothing.

        All just the same old theory we've heard before.

        On the sales page there is a video of him logging into paypal and making over $40,000 in profit in one month.

        We assume that is profit at the time. However it isn't profit if he's used PPC. For all we know he could've spent $35,000 on generating this cash... Hell, he could've spent more than $40,000.

        Now if there was a video showing this campaign actually being set up that would be useful. But there isn't...

        As for the software. It doesn't give you any data that you can't extract from free websites.

        The course is a good if you're new to affiliate marketing and cpa. Steve knows his stuff and is very good in front of the camera. However it wasn't for me. All the same old theory I've already been taught before.

        If he can actually make $40,000 in a month using these methods, show us, show us the campaign happening. How you set it up, etc. If you can do it why just tell us theory?

        So if you want to know about cpa and affiliate marketing and you're new maybe this course will be good for you. if you're looking for something new, or you think the software will do most of the work for you (as suggested on the sales page) then you better think again...
        For all you know it could work... You can't go throwing negative assumptions until you give it an honest try. Otherwise my statement of "For all you know it could work" is just as true as yours... and that goes for all your other assumptions as well...
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    • Profile picture of the author rawstyle
      Okay, so here's an update. I went through the entire course, and went into action.

      First of all, I want to say that a lot of my income online is through network marketing income streams (more info in my sig). Right now I earn about a 4 figure residual monthly income. I also dabble in CPA and affiliate marketing, and average about $1k/month in clickbank sales. Proof is available, if anyone's interested...but it's really not that important.

      As I said yesterday I was going to post a full review, but I wanted to drop by and give a quick update...I put COMMISSION CRUSHER's ideas and software into action, even using his 10 premade campaigns...and here's my result:

      CPA commissions: ~$400
      Advertising expense: ~$1200

      So yes, I burned about $800.

      I'll post a review if people still want it...but bottomline is newbies will NOT succeed with this program. There is WAY too much time/work/expertise required STILL even with all the upgrades, and all the premade "winning" money making campaigns, etc. I'm not a super affiliate, but I am no newbie affiliate either.

      As for the hosting and professional web-design upgrade, it's nothing special...the website looks like something I can whip up myself with wordpress.

      So CAN you make money with this? Sure, as stated above I made money.

      Make your own informed decision folks...you have my report.

      Warrior of truth, signing off.
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      • Profile picture of the author cjr126
        the finishing touch is always how after you buy the program and all it's upsells not even 24 hours passes and i'm getting emails from him for some other program he's promoting

        i mean if his program is what it's supposed to be why the need a day later to start sending me emails promoting other "im" products

        all these people care about is taking your money and not delivering on their product

        i to wrote their support team 2 days ago with no response

        seems like i just got suckered in one more time .. i'm a newbie and i can tell this program is a piece of crap
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      • Profile picture of the author mistermint
        Well, I bought the software and passed on all the upsells...though I must say was tempted with the worm...

        Don't think I can even be bothered to go to the site and d/l the script let alone sit through all the videos...

        Guess I'll just hit the refund button and say adios to Steve...

        Thanks to jasonthewebmaster

        The funny thing was did the usual warrior forum product search which didn't bring me to this thread first time..
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        • Profile picture of the author Jos Espo
          Originally Posted by mistermint View Post

          I must say was tempted with the worm...
          The worm is a WP plugin...


          Regards
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          • Profile picture of the author mistermint
            BIZNEBIZ
            The worm is a WP plugin...
            To do what?

            I'm fast coming to the conclusion that Clickbank should be a lot more careful with the products they offer...

            But, I should have known better... since I've been around since 1999...
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            • Profile picture of the author dannynz
              Originally Posted by mistermint View Post


              I'm fast coming to the conclusion that Clickbank should be a lot more careful with the products they offer...
              From what I have seen over the years Clickbank don't seem to care as they only take action, you would hope, based on the amount of refund requests but not from my experience:

              e.g. I have made complaints to Clickbank twice now on two similar products in the mobile marketing, mobile CPA space and they never replied and they are still both available as far as I know. One product generated a huge amount of complaints and pages of feed back in a thread here at the WF. Products still on Clickbank.

              End of the day I ended up learning from my own experiences in mobile CPA, without any of these products, but it took awhile and I am still learning but sharing the good and bad on my forum, while more hyped courses kept coming out (with payment via Clickbank) promising easy money.

              Don't be distracted by the hype and claims (where this systems seems to posture themselves).

              From what I am reading here it seems this product is for a specific purpose, part of your business plan/strategy if you are into PPC/CPA. What I don't agree with is the over hyped sales pages/videos and posture etc ... the way it is marketed.

              Danny
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        • Profile picture of the author rawstyle
          Originally Posted by mistermint View Post


          Don't think I can even be bothered to go to the site and d/l the script let alone sit through all the videos...

          Guess I'll just hit the refund button and say adios to Steve...

          Thanks to jasonthewebmaster
          If you bought the product already, why not go for a spin yourself instead of going on someone's brief review?

          It's only been out for 2 days, and where jasonthewebmaster got NOTHING because maybe he did nothing (was too negative about the video, the materials, first impression, etc), I made money. Maybe I or someone in a few weeks will do a lot better.

          People...as many scams and over hyped fluff as there are on the internet, there are even more people who do nothing but moan and cry because they cannot make the millions with the laziest of efforts.

          Give things a fair review over a fair period of time before you come here and cast judgment in a review thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author mistermint
            Hi rawstyle,

            My only interest was the software part of it..but, looking at the screenshots provided by BIZNEBIZ then, really jason is right, you can get this info from Alexa also..there are very cheap competition checkers around...so basically, I decided not to waste time on it..

            Yes, I agree with you on the scams and folk who never take action...and I'm one for giving something new a good go, at least this way I can recommend a product with a true understanding of how it works..but, with this I get the distinct impression that the sales videos are way removed from the reality of what you will get...

            I do know there is no magic bullet however, I expect honesty from products and product owners...I don't pay them in counterfeit money right!

            Maybe I will go and have a look as you suggest at least then I can comment with knowledge

            Have a nice weekend!
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          • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
            CPA commissions: ~$400
            Advertising expense: ~$1200

            So yes, I burned about $800
            appears to me - you LOST ... not made $$$. Yes u generated revenue - but at a substantial net loss. I can write articles for hire and MAKE MONEY ...

            I could pay $1,000 's to backlink an adsense site that pulls $.20 a day ... is that making $$$?

            What am i missing ....?
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            • Profile picture of the author Onash
              Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

              appears to me - you LOST ... not made $$$. Yes u generated revenue - but at a substantial net loss. I can write articles for hire and MAKE MONEY ...

              I could pay $1,000 's to backlink an adsense site that pulls $.20 a day ... is that making $$$?

              What am i missing ....?
              Ha ! he LOST money...... thats exactly what he says !..... thats what's burning through means....used up more than he gained !.....read the rest of his comments and you should get it.
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            • Profile picture of the author rawstyle
              @4morerefferals you missed NOTHING, my friend...I believe my meaning is clear in what I wrote. Try putting a match to some cash from your wallet. You'll understand what I mean then.

              I am officially moving on from Commission Crusher.

              Bottomline: this product, no matter what the gravity shoots up to, will have a lot of refunds...especially from the newbies. The hype and expectations built up by the sales page sets this up because the product experience simply falls flat in comparison. So for those of you saying this was a good sales letter, and good marketing...think again.

              That said, I'm not going to get a refund myself...I'll probably use the software again another time.

              Damn, I was looking forward to the tropical white sand beach...I guess that will have to wait another day!
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          • Profile picture of the author JDE
            [QUOTE= I made money. Maybe I or someone in a few weeks will do a lot better.[/QUOTE]

            OK, I am glad to hear that you "made money", but either my math is really bad, or you LOST a LOT of money. Here are your figures:

            "CPA commissions: ~$400
            Advertising expense: ~$1200
            So yes, I burned about $800."

            How is this making money? You don't have to be an accountant to realize that you lost $800, so why would you want to give anyone the impression that this was profitable for you?

            We all want to believe that there is a system out there that will truly make us money the way the gurus tell us you can. Unfortunately, I have yet to see anyone on the WF or other forums talking about how great this or that system is working, and how much money they are raking in.

            In every new product "review" thread, we always hear from people who haven't bought the product yet, but who speculate on the quality of the content based on their reading what others have written, or maybe based on their previous experience with other products from the same "guru".

            We also hear from a few who have purchased the product, and promise to get back with a review. Some do, and many don't. Then occasionally we hear from those who have bought the product, and may give us either a positive or negative review.

            In all of the threads I have read, so far, what I NEVER see is a review from more than one person who honestly says that they are making a "killing" with the product, and that everyone should jump on board!

            Funny, we all come to WF to find these types of reviews, but we never find them. Is this because those who really rake it in don't want to share their experiences, for fear of saturating the market. Or is it because 99% of these IM products are pure crap?

            IM is starting to look a lot like MLM to me these days. You have to do tons of due diligence to get even a reasonable degree of confidence that what you are buying and spending / wasting your time and money on will actually work.

            Not trying to be negative here. It just seems that every new IM product has a Hypey sales page using false scarcity tactics, exit pops with big discounts, etc. etc. They are all pretty much the same.

            Sure would like to find something that truly works, for those who are willing to put some effort into it. Seems that almost all I see online these days is scammy gurus and scammy products.............
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            • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
              Originally Posted by JDE View Post

              OK, I am glad to hear that you "made money", but either my math is really bad, or you LOST a LOT of money. Here are your figures:

              "CPA commissions: ~$400
              Advertising expense: ~$1200
              So yes, I burned about $800."

              How is this making money? You don't have to be an accountant to realize that you lost $800, so why would you want to give anyone the impression that this was profitable for you?
              To me when he says he "burned about $800", he means he LOST $800 not made it.

              That's usually what "burning" through something is... not a good thing.

              But that's my interpenetration only.
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
        Originally Posted by rawstyle View Post

        Okay, so here's an update. I went through the entire course, and went into action.

        First of all, I want to say that a lot of my income online is through network marketing income streams (more info in my sig). Right now I earn about a 4 figure residual monthly income. I also dabble in CPA and affiliate marketing, and average about $1k/month in clickbank sales. Proof is available, if anyone's interested...but it's really not that important.

        As I said yesterday I was going to post a full review, but I wanted to drop by and give a quick update...I put COMMISSION CRUSHER's ideas and software into action, even using his 10 premade campaigns...and here's my result:

        CPA commissions: ~$400
        Advertising expense: ~$1200

        So yes, I burned about $800.

        I'll post a review if people still want it...but bottomline is newbies will NOT succeed with this program. There is WAY too much time/work/expertise required STILL even with all the upgrades, and all the premade "winning" money making campaigns, etc. I'm not a super affiliate, but I am no newbie affiliate either.

        As for the hosting and professional web-design upgrade, it's nothing special...the website looks like something I can whip up myself with wordpress.

        So CAN you make money with this? Sure, as stated above I made money.

        Make your own informed decision folks...you have my report.

        Warrior of truth, signing off.
        Sounds like you have jumped the gun.

        As I recall the course recommends keeping an eye on winning ads for 7 days or so to make sure they're winners.

        If you did your research and reverse engineering in around 24 hours or less, then it's a simple matter of not following directions.
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        • Profile picture of the author rawstyle
          Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

          Sounds like you have jumped the gun.

          As I recall the course recommends keeping an eye on winning ads for 7 days or so to make sure they're winners.

          If you did your research and reverse engineering in around 24 hours or less, then it's a simple matter of not following directions.
          Jason, 1 question for you. Did you buy the course?

          My guess is no...maybe you made it?

          I actually did NOT jump the gun, the results I posted were based on my action taking on the "WINNING DONE FOR YOU CAMPAIGNS", one of Steve Iser's upsells.

          I set up multiple campaigns among those 10 that he provided, same "WINNING" ads, "WINNING" sites, and those are the EXACT uncensored results. I admit I'm not excited about having thrown $800 out, but I basically ran those campaigns with my usual maximum tolerance limit (depending on what the payout is), and that's the result.

          The result of following exactly as he laid out for that specific product.

          I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone post these types of flatout results (screenshots available) on any product review thread to be honest, but that's what I plan to do for any review I do. Like I said, I believe I provided some solid value here...something I really want to see in these types of threads...so do what you will with the info.

          However, I will like to add that I'm not done yet.

          I am all about going through something thoroughly, but I like to take action while I'm learning.
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          • Profile picture of the author leonmare
            Originally Posted by rawstyle View Post

            Jason, 1 question for you. Did you buy the course?

            My guess is no...maybe you made it?

            I actually did NOT jump the gun, the results I posted were based on my action taking on the "WINNING DONE FOR YOU CAMPAIGNS", one of Steve Iser's upsells.

            I set up multiple campaigns among those 10 that he provided, same "WINNING" ads, "WINNING" sites, and those are the EXACT uncensored results. I admit I'm not excited about having thrown $800 out, but I basically ran those campaigns with my usual maximum tolerance limit (depending on what the payout is), and that's the result.

            The result of following exactly as he laid out for that specific product.

            I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone post these types of flatout results (screenshots available) on any product review thread to be honest, but that's what I plan to do for any review I do. Like I said, I believe I provided some solid value here...something I really want to see in these types of threads...so do what you will with the info.

            However, I will like to add that I'm not done yet.

            I am all about going through something thoroughly, but I like to take action while I'm learning.
            I asked for a refund today because he says "WINNING DONE FOR YOU CAMPAIGNS" and I only have to plug in my aff link!! RUBBISH. I don't care if he has good 'sales copy' (Video) or not - he did not give me 10 campaigns - I have to do them and test the waters! I told Clickbank I'll keep it if he does it for me! Why must we tolerate this hype! Go back to all his videos - extremely overhyped...
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            • Profile picture of the author tfry
              Bought the program and I bought the 10 Campaigns Done for You, where all i was suppose to do what put in my affiliate ID? NOT! Commission Worm. Well I cannot say if it works or not yet? I am getting refund.

              Glad to be a member of WF! I will look here before I buy from now on!
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    • Profile picture of the author mistermint
      I have now been inside the members area watched the videos and opened the web based software and comment as follows:-

      Firstly, as other warriors point out..Steve is nothing like the way he comes over on the sales videos however, personally, I would have more respect if he had not used insulting reverse psychology throughout the sales system.

      The videos would help a new or intermediate marketer especially, if they wanted to take a particular interest in media buying however, for myself and I suspect a lot of other marketers there is nothing new, secret or revolutionary.

      I found some of the methods a bit high risk, in particular: placing ads on other websites direct with the owner..this IMO would encourage the owner to simply follow your example and hijack your ad as Steve mentions, send over a CPA or CB banner and your affiliate link. Hoisted with ones own petard..

      Reverse engineeering is a good way to gather market intelligence however, nothing new and forms part of your basic research or should do.

      One particular video will be a great help to new marketers, shows a way to get started without a web site and the associated on costs..

      The software: You will get access to the basic software for the basic membership however, if you want the software to do more then, it is a 297 USD upgrade.

      The basic software I tried appears to work well though, I did a Google search comparison and got almost identical results..should you need a more sophisticated system then, you can find this at Amazon Web Services where there is an Alexa web information service..

      The bonuses are a mixture of free and paid offers as are the free website and hosting offer..IM pals club I would think..

      Conclusion:

      Steve IMO is a nice enough person and his product is worth the basic membership however, I wouldn't buy in to the up and down sells..The software is convenient to use.

      You will naturally require more money to get started buying low cost media space however, if you went for the lower traffic sites the cost will reduce pro-rata..

      You can get badly burned with PPC so be careful..keep a close eye on ads and experiment with the lower cost companies like 7 search 5 cents a click..I use this for testing campaigns but, they often produce sales early then, I pull them thus making a profit..that's just me it may work differently for you..

      As mentioned above, test everything out on a low spend basis first.

      Thanks,

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      • Profile picture of the author nssp
        I was very interested to jump on this product after seeing the sales page.. Warriors are always great who give honest feedback..

        Thanks for all your comments and feedback..

        EDIT: Now I am not buying this one...
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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      Thanks but we dont need a recycled review that Steve has given all his affiliates...

      if you guys are going to post a review, post it HERE and make sure its a REAL REVIEW and not a copy and paste campaign from the affiliate page of the freaking product.

      THis is as close to spam as you can get without actually breaking the rules around here so be careful.

      Originally Posted by Giani View Post

      As promised, I posted my review at other link here too.

      Commission Crusher includes a powerful software "Ad Assault" and 4 videos for about 2& 1/2 hours.

      He shows a new strategy which I have never used or known. It is worth buying as Steve explains a totally different strategy to know what competitors are doing. Of course this strategy requires patience and some good efforts.

      More review can be read at:

      Commission Crusher Reviewed
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      • Profile picture of the author podman
        he says it's limited to 500 copies and yet it has a gravity of 959.94.... right there he is caught out as a liar as it's already sold way more than 500 copies.

        it's $47 but affiliates can make "up to $270.50 per sale", so LOTS of expensive upsells

        huge sales letter that tells you a thousand time you will make a fortune effortlessly but never tells you how or what it is.... huge red flag for me

        i suspect he'll have a huge rate of refunds, but he'll make a fortune from it anyway

        this is the kind of sales letter i read and then feel like i need to take a shower
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      • Profile picture of the author GDesigner
        I'm just amazed how the hype is still working well nowadays.

        The scenario hasn't changed for years and is created on the same old but effective following rules:

        1. You aren't rich? Then pretend you are.

        2. To be more reliable and warm up the viewers before they buy, create a video proof.

        3. You don't have money on your Paypal for video proof purposes? Then borrow a few large money transfers from your mates and pretend you've earned this with your amazing system

        4. Tell your story which is: I WAS LIKE YOU, I WAS POOR and I had no place to stay and no money in my pocket Or go even further saying " I WAS HOMELESS....., hungry......" Create the feeling how normal and modest person you used to be and how things have changed since you worked out your amazing strategy

        5. "Then and NOW". Show your real ugly nasty, rusted car or home or whatever (THEN) and show your dream car (NOW, which you can state is yours). The car is easy to buy for several $$$ from photo stock websites (with a private commercial image license for some extra $$$ you make sure no one else has your car on his website and it's only yours

        6. Misleading info. Provide as long benefits list as you can, make sure you put in there a lot of "you don't needs" like:

        -you don't need traffic
        -you don't need money
        -you don't need this
        -you don't need that
        -you don't need anything........... to make money with this system.
        etc.

        Just assure people how many things they don't need to make easy money with your product

        7. And don't forget about upsells and prepare as many ONLY ONE TIME OFFERS that they will never see again to squeeze even more extra profit

        7. Big STARTUP Buy an email blast from the gurus having xxx xxx xxx number of leads to blast your super hyper product sales page away to their email list.

        8. Smile and wait for results.

        9. Wait for money coming in from the people who believe that they need your product and that it's good and fulfill all statements from the sales page.

        10. Refund money to those who dare to be more skeptical and who dare to say your product isn't anything new.

        Off course you don't have to take the steps above and sell your strategy. But you are so good and helpful man that you always share your most precious and foolproof secrets to make even more people rich and happy. And don't be afraid that they will copy and oversaturate your system, beacuse it's so good that it works always for everyone and everywhere


        Off course the above is only example and just a mention of my thoughts about the hype and off course I'm 100% sure that the comission crusher isn't like this

        Have good day
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      • Profile picture of the author IMcode
        Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

        Thanks but we dont need a recycled review that Steve has given all his affiliates...

        if you guys are going to post a review, post it HERE and make sure its a REAL REVIEW and not a copy and paste campaign from the affiliate page of the freaking product.

        THis is as close to spam as you can get without actually breaking the rules around here so be careful.
        JasonTheWebMaster, other Honest WF Contributors, keep the good job, because your honesty sure can save lots of people, their hard earned money, Thank you for your valuable and Honorable Reviews.

        Some of those Know-It-All: REVIEWS, are of dishonest persons that are trying to bash you and not your reviews. Because they praise hypes and fluffs, one could tell after some bad experiences with some of them, that their reviews are deceiving and not worth, the page is printed on, with hinder perspective in mind, that one have to wonder what that, is? lol...

        I used to come to the WF and see and have the mind set, that all I would find on: WF were Honest and Trust-able, REVIEWS about a Product or Service. I wanted to purchase but all I used to look at was positive reviews just because I was on WF, because I trusted that everybody here, on WF were honest and reliable people, even though the WF Q/A explicitly states that, that is not true. But my
        mindset was to blame.

        So after lot of head aches and burnts of my hard earned money and misuse of my precious time, because of unscrupulous people that use the WF and their status they have managed to build on WF as their shield to rob people of their hard earned money.

        I've learned that WF is for everybody: Newbies, Intermediate, Experienced marketers, Coaches, Poor, Rich, Millionaires, Billionaires, because most of these Top IMers and Coaches are sons and daughters of the Warrior Forum, that have given their Best to others, and have gotten the Best part because of their hard and dedicated work. But not every body is for WF, because not everybody on WF have good will and intentions, in their heart to provide real help to You and I, because all their intentions boils down to is what me and you have in the pocket, and how fast they can snatch it away...

        I only wished I had become a Member of the WF sooner, because I can say that the Warrior Forum to date is one of my best Investments on the Internet, both financial and time wise I've made, if you can call it investment, because WF is a Free Internet Marketing University, that a little guy with no money can afford and ride through the free way of success.

        I honestly feel that just by joining the WF that I've achieved a great measure of success, plus I have the privileges others don't! While other people are thinking the whole thing about Internet Marketing is a Big scam. All people on the Internet want, is to take your hard earned money.

        I know now that, that is not entirely true because I have the privilege of been a member of one of the Best, that the Internet gave birth to, because of Honest and Hard Working People. And they also could, because honestly if I was able to afford it, I can certainly say, that anyone could, only if they knew this 3 keywords: How, Where, Why , "Knowledge is Beautiful" because even though, when I was running through my last $100 dollars after buying Millionaire after Billionaire Soft-wares.

        But I still had, to make a choice whether to buy this, AMAZING GAZILLIONAIRE Software that, spills out Gazillions of dollars per hour, faster than a Ferrari F50 that reaches 60mph in merely 3.7 seconds or buy the WF, 20 years Bullet Proof Membership? Oh I forgot, I should 'SHOOT' myself in the foot, because I guess had I made the first choice BY NOW I would've been a Gazillionaire.

        Seating on top of Twin Towers selling, I'm sorry... I mean "scamming" hard working people, off their Hard Earned Money providing hypes and fluffs, that would teach them how to become Gazillionaires like me, and how they could come join me, on top of Twin Towers as we go on our journey, building bubble dreams and selling them as Billionaire Softwares and siphoning Billions and Gazillions of dollars, off people's hard earned money. I only how I would've be able to fall a sleep at night knowing that in my Gazillionaire High Classified Bank Accounts their are MILLIONS and BILLIONS of Hard Working People's Hard Earned Money (Bloody Money). But I guess I am a fool, but I am happy to be a fool, but a Member of the WF.

        As I've learned a little about the Ins and Out of Internet Marketing, I've come to know and understand that you do not need a piece of software to teach you how to make money (if it could) I am not saying that its not possible to use a software to help you make money, but what good is a software that spills out Billions and Gazillions of money, when you do not know how to operate such software and how to be able to collect, all the Billions of monopoly money it cranks out per hour.

        And with all this Amazing software's coming out, that cranks out Gazillions of dollars how are me and you going to learn how to operate one, when we run from one Millionaire's software to another, Next a Billionaire's Software, than to a Gazillionaire is Software. When you do not have the know how and the means to operate neither one. Ex. How can I state that I own a Ferrari F50? When I do not have the capacity or the means to buy and maintain a Ferrari F50, plus its not even in the Market yet? But I sure can drive one somehow, legit or not but would I frightfully be able to say I own this Ferrari.

        So you need a whole system, a real infrastructure, behind you and you need coaching so that you can learn from your coach how to Create and Design Amazing Contents that provides real values, and help yourself while helping others achieve, what you want to achieve, which is... you have to have the will and sole intentions to provide goods to others.

        Because no matter what they say, at the end money is not everything, because its just a tool, its how and what you do with it, that it all comes down to, just to en-phase, and it saddens me, because no matter what its simply a tragedy all the way around, but look at, Madoff I mean this Man had amassed billions of dollars, but what hotel is honorable to have him as its guest now.

        Thank you all,
        Tony Bravo
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      • Profile picture of the author grannydude
        I am not quite sure how I got introduced to Commission Crusher. However, Steve's video altho long is very enticing. So I purchased the product; I think I paid the $47. After I watched the 3 or 4 videos I tried to figure out how to implement the product without success. I did purchase the upsell containing 20 ready made campaigns for $300. I couldn't figure out how to use them, altho maybe I was just being dumb altho I have over 20 years of computer experience. Eventually feeling very frustrated I contacted the "help" link. You go to one of the help sites where you have to register and then sign in. You are supposedly given a choice of where to send help query but there is only one category listed. My question which was not made clear in the tutorial videos was how to get your affiliate links on someone else's web page; you can't edit someone else's web page (which, of course, i the way it should be). I got a brief email back with an email address which took me to another piece of software called "Commission Worm". The way it goes is by way of a WordPress plug-in. You enter one or two keywords and the softare goes out and finds Yahoo answer sites and YouTube sites, gets them and puts them on a special page with an area for links. You get a ClickBank link and copy it for both banner ads and text ads and posts them on your site using the keywords you entered earlier. You can choose how often stuff is posted altho I am not sure that works. I forgot when i was setting it up and left time at 1 minute. I ended up with a mess. The articles were mostly poor quality as were the YouTube videos. The idea was that the site I made would get ranked high on Google, then if someone clicked on the embeded banner ads, they would go to the ClickBank link for the product you are promoting.

        My Opinion:
        I am very disappointed with this product. It does what it says (the Commission Worm part; I still don't know how to set up a campaign, let alone figure out how to use the provided campaigns that cost me $300. One comment asked about support; not good. Steve seems to be a nice young man and is a very good salesperson; his idea may be good, but implementation is very bad. There were also error messages at the bottom of my site which I didn't really understand; I didn't want to mess with the code. Bottom Line: i would not recommend that anyone purchase this product, especially the $300 upsell. Except for finding stuff to post, you don't need to spend $$$$'s for the software; you can do it yourself. After I tried it on one site where I set the time too low, it took me a long time to get the site cleaned up; basically deleting everything except the basic Socrates theme features. So do yourself a favor and do not get this package.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sonja
          Originally Posted by grannydude View Post

          My Opinion:
          I am very disappointed with this product. It does what it says (the Commission Worm part; I still don't know how to set up a campaign, let alone figure out how to use the provided campaigns that cost me $300. One comment asked about support; not good. Steve seems to be a nice young man and is a very good salesperson; his idea may be good, but implementation is very bad. There were also error messages at the bottom of my site which I didn't really understand; I didn't want to mess with the code. Bottom Line: i would not recommend that anyone purchase this product, especially the $300 upsell. Except for finding stuff to post, you don't need to spend $$$$'s for the software; you can do it yourself. After I tried it on one site where I set the time too low, it took me a long time to get the site cleaned up; basically deleting everything except the basic Socrates theme features. So do yourself a favor and do not get this package.
          grannydude
          Did you request a refund? I sure the heck did. I went straight to CB and talked with one of their representatives and demanded my money back. I checked my email as I had CB on the chat and I recieved my refund instantly. As for him being nice, I call BS on that. No one nice would put something out like this that basically leaves you holding the bag wondering what to do. He didn't even show ONE way to set up a campaign. He probably gave some good tips on what to look for, but if you are new to the game you wouldn't know a good tip if it walked up to you and slapped you in the face.

          For those who are newbies and excited about it, I feel really bad for you. How anyone can be enthused about this product is beyond me. A good portion of the videos is him going through showing you how to download free programs to use. Really? You just spent over $300 for that and you're happy and satisfied? For the newbies, all you need to do is take away all they hype and look with your own eyes. Just pull the curtains back and you will see that it is all smoke and mirrors. You are set to loose your ass on this purchase and any money you set out to run a campaign based on his methods...if you can even figure out how to run one.
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          • Profile picture of the author mistermint
            You know this is the basic problem with IM...

            It's all things to all people...like how long is a piece of string right...

            Guys and Gals just go through the WSO's and see what folk are saying before you take the plunge...that is if you need leading if not...just think outside the box and try different things in a small way..if it works then, scale it up...

            IMO just concentrate on building a responsive list of subscribers...give them value and they will stick with you...then, you can sell to your list but, make sure you offer stuff that hand on heart you know is good...research and test and repeat the process...

            It's not rocket science..

            Have a nice weekend,

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            • Profile picture of the author EliteWealth
              Originally Posted by mistermint View Post

              Guys and Gals just go through the WSO's and see what folk are saying before you take the plunge...that is if you need leading if not...just think outside the box and try different things in a small way..if it works then, scale it up...
              Well said Gordon, I see so many people throwing around money even after many negative reviews been done on the product. Then they do their own "I'm very disappointed" post. Maybe they just want to review the product themselves but as for me "a penny saved is a penny earned". Spend your money wisely and read the Thread before you buy.

              I will usually wait a couple weeks before I even consider purchasing a product. If 90 to 95 percent of the reviews are positive then I will purchase. There is really no hurry, if you feel some sort of urgency BE CAREFUL THAT YOU DON'T FALL INTO A TRAP! If the product is really worth having it will work for months and at least a couple years.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
                Contrary to many of the reviews...I was satisfied with my purchase FOR THE SOFTWARE ALONE.

                I bought it - got the software, and never looked at any of the material. The software saves me a ton of time, and was well worth the price.

                Finding sites to place your advertisements can be HUGELY profitable if done right, and is a GREAT way to go for people that either aren't getting enough traffic the "free" way, or just don't write well enough to get good results.

                Like I said, I can't really speak on any of the actual "training material" because I didn't look at it, but for anyone doing this kind of advertising already, or if you are thinking about jumping into it, the tool he gives you is well worth the price. Sure you could go to 3 or 4 different sites, and get all the same information, but pushing a button saves a crap load of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    Steve Iser is the real deal. I first met him in Dallas about 5 years ago but the time I remember the best was in Philly at JV Alert. This 20 year old kid was there from Toronto, buying beer with a fake ID. But he had $8,000 cash in his pocket because he didn't have credit cards.

    He knew everybody there on a first name basis and even spoke at one of Yanik's events before he was 20.

    And he works his ass off. We've had many google chats at 3-4am, him in his dorm room working on products while his peers were asleep or out partying. He's earned his success with knowledge, personality and perseverance.

    What he teaches is the real deal. An unlike a lot of others, he practices what he preaches. He's a freakin' expert at CPA and makes a killing doing it with no product or list hassles.

    I'm not pimping his product. I don't do affiliate marketing. But I'll tell you something. What he sells works. He's an honest kid who doesn't hold back the good stuff. If you refund this product, it is because of your inadequacies as a marketer, not because of the quality of product.
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    I love watching newbies chasing the repackaged bone.
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  • If you listen to the sales pitch, he essentially disses ClickBank and sells the system on Clickbank and, I understand, within the course tells readers to set up a Clickbank account.

    Seems incongruous.
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  • Profile picture of the author docdurdin2
    OK.. I'll keep this short and sweet. Let's face it, most of you would drool to be able to write and produce his sales letter, it was killer..You just had to go see who this pert wise ass is. Steve is a smart marketer that deals mostly in CPA.. This is a great product for anyone wanting to do CPA. The worm is not new (think dirty cpa) but IS a killer tool if you don't have one. The ad assault is a data scraper that will shorten your research time. A good drill down tool if you don't know analytics, not sure if it's his or? You have to do your homework if you want to do CPA and this product helps. My opine is that the big networks are sucking cpa dry, so you have to look for niche opportunities (find a back door.) Steve is great at teaching that. My only complaint was the site offers which again are good if you are new as he has done the research on pick 5 or 10 offer. They are not up and running deals as was implied. I'm always looking to steal some good up and runners ; ) There is nothing wrong with rebranding, you all do it and if you don't ( forget marketing.) Just be sure you are honest and teach honest. Cheers, Doc
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    • Profile picture of the author Aries26
      I bought the product and finished everything.

      I need to have big financial budget to make money with the system.

      The way thevideo sales page convey its message is not what I expect inside the membership area. It is too deceiving.

      In his sales video, Steven sound too high-tech geek hoping to show some "real thing" but I got disappointed by him showing ony his typing skills, how to download software, how to select a winning product in clickbank - which everybody knew how to do it already and more real newbie stuffs that I don't expect by watching his sales video.

      My conclusion: He is a good marketer (in a way he succeeded in letting me full my credit card with his sales video) but the system or product is not a new stuff.

      Aries
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberSorcerer
    Well I've given it a try also, as I always purchase anything that's new, catches my eye, and that I haven't figured out what it is in the sales letter.

    As usual, and what has already been covered above by others, it's rehashed material and stuff that any newbie can learn using Google, Alexa, and Quantcast.

    Granted most TRUE newbies haven't learn how to use Google to narrow down their searches and find particular stuff they are looking for but given enough time they eventually should.

    I mean a whole video on just signing up for affiliate networks, installing software, etc. If someone doesn't know how to sign up for programs or install trial software, then making it in Internet Marketing is going to be a real challenge for them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by CyberSorcerer View Post

      Well I've given it a try also, as I always purchase anything that's new, catches my eye, and that I haven't figured out what it is in the sales letter.

      As usual, and what has already been covered above by others, it's rehashed material and stuff that any newbie can learn using Google, Alexa, and Quantcast.

      Granted most TRUE newbies haven't learn how to use Google to narrow down their searches and find particular stuff they are looking for but given enough time they eventually should.

      I mean a whole video on just signing up for affiliate networks, installing software, etc. If someone doesn't know how to sign up for programs or install trial software, then making it in Internet Marketing is going to be a real challenge for them.
      So, you exited the womb knowing how to sign up affiliate networks, how to install software, etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author rbaartz
    The sales process promises way too much that just cannot be delivered. The software is a scraping tool based on a keyword you enter, which is fine, but one it's own is not enough to make you money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clayton Johnston
      Am I glad I found this thread....

      Thanks for all of your input warrior team....

      Every now and then I will watch one of these hype videos if it has come from one of my mentors that I trust to see why they are promoting this....

      The hype wore me down so I got the basic to see what all the fuss was about.... Then the usual upgrades happened and I'm definitely glad I could get some real feedback inthe foums here and those who have had a chance to go through the info....

      Once again there is no quick and easy solution or push this button to make squillions, but yes some good marketing from this guy.... I wonder how Click Bank will view all of the refunds.... Great for newbies thou, so will still make a tidy profit on fresh meat....

      Thanks guys

      appreciate the effort you all put in reviewing the products

      Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author maidmarion
    Thanks for the reviews! When you get an email saying 'look at this' from a respected internet marketer, you tend to take a look seriously. Wish these internet gurus would stop pushing other products on us, just to make a bit of commision. Apparantly they make enough already without having to do this!
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  • Profile picture of the author squire.mark
    Well I bought, and watched a good number of the videos. Since his sales page was so vague, I didn't really know what it was about until I bought. Once I bought, I had no interest in following throught with it. There were no nuts-n-bolts instructions on setting up the ad campaign. He said that it's because there's so many ways to do it, but offers no real framework even to work within. I wasn't satisfied, and I asked for my money back . . . Twice . . . I submitted two support tickets, one of which is mysteriously gone, and the other was closed, but no refund. I finally decided to file a dispute with paypal, and throughout all of this I STILL haven't heard from him. I can't understand why people are calling this guy a "nice guy". To this point, I've basically been scammed for my $47.00. It's been five days since I first submitted that first ticket, and I haven't heard back at all 'cept for some automated responses. I hope that Mr. Iser does the right thing and refunds. If so, I'll be sure to update this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author jrafique
      Originally Posted by squire.mark View Post

      Well I bought, and watched a good number of the videos. Since his sales page was so vague, I didn't really know what it was about until I bought. Once I bought, I had no interest in following throught with it. There were no nuts-n-bolts instructions on setting up the ad campaign. He said that it's because there's so many ways to do it, but offers no real framework even to work within. I wasn't satisfied, and I asked for my money back . . . Twice . . . I submitted two support tickets, one of which is mysteriously gone, and the other was closed, but no refund. I finally decided to file a dispute with paypal, and throughout all of this I STILL haven't heard from him. I can't understand why people are calling this guy a "nice guy". To this point, I've basically been scammed for my $47.00. It's been five days since I first submitted that first ticket, and I haven't heard back at all 'cept for some automated responses. I hope that Mr. Iser does the right thing and refunds. If so, I'll be sure to update this thread.
      Hi Mark,

      Use this link to get the refund https://www.clickbank.com/orderDetail.htm

      Or send email to refund@clickbank.com with little explanation why you want to get the refund.

      Thanks,

      Jawad
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      • Profile picture of the author squire.mark
        Jawad, FYI, I followed the process you outlined. Hopefully I'll see a refund shortly. God bless you for that tip.

        -M
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    • Profile picture of the author Sonja
      Originally Posted by squire.mark View Post

      Well I bought, and watched a good number of the videos. Since his sales page was so vague, I didn't really know what it was about until I bought. Once I bought, I had no interest in following throught with it. There were no nuts-n-bolts instructions on setting up the ad campaign. He said that it's because there's so many ways to do it, but offers no real framework even to work within. I wasn't satisfied, and I asked for my money back . . . Twice . . . I submitted two support tickets, one of which is mysteriously gone, and the other was closed, but no refund. I finally decided to file a dispute with paypal, and throughout all of this I STILL haven't heard from him. I can't understand why people are calling this guy a "nice guy". To this point, I've basically been scammed for my $47.00. It's been five days since I first submitted that first ticket, and I haven't heard back at all 'cept for some automated responses. I hope that Mr. Iser does the right thing and refunds. If so, I'll be sure to update this thread.
      Someone else suggested sending an email, but if you go to clickbank and click on live help and explain the situation, they will refund your money. Literally line for line we experienced the same thing. My tickets to support were never answered, and they were mysteriously closed without a response. I even pm'ed him here and no response. Well I went right on over to clickbank and chatted live with them and I watched as I got my notification of a refund. Case closed.

      As for the material, I must say that it was lacking because he didn't explain HOW to setup a campaign:confused:. There was literally NO video on the process. How can he miss that part? He may be a nice guy as I have read and even appeared pretty cool in the videos, but the product doesn't cut the mustard and the entire sales funnel has too many holes in it. It says only 500 will be sold and only 38 downloaded copies available, yet the gravity is 959 the last that I checked. On top of that the OTO's are available for the same price inside the members area. So I guess they aren't really OTO's now are they?

      Based on the lack of support, the misinformation on the sales page limiting the copies to 500 yet selling almost double that according CB gravity, offering OTO's that you can get inside the members area for the same price, and not instructing on how to even set up a freaking campaign, I can't recommend this to anyone.

      Bottom line, I should have known better.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by squire.mark View Post

      Well I bought, and watched a good number of the videos. Since his sales page was so vague, I didn't really know what it was about until I bought. Once I bought, I had no interest in following throught with it. There were no nuts-n-bolts instructions on setting up the ad campaign. He said that it's because there's so many ways to do it, but offers no real framework even to work within. I wasn't satisfied, and I asked for my money back . . . Twice . . . I submitted two support tickets, one of which is mysteriously gone, and the other was closed, but no refund. I finally decided to file a dispute with paypal, and throughout all of this I STILL haven't heard from him. I can't understand why people are calling this guy a "nice guy". To this point, I've basically been scammed for my $47.00. It's been five days since I first submitted that first ticket, and I haven't heard back at all 'cept for some automated responses. I hope that Mr. Iser does the right thing and refunds. If so, I'll be sure to update this thread.
      It's ClickBank that refunds so after you put in a support ticket you need to wait a few days which I've seen you already have. Just curious were those 5 business days? However, any business has up to 30 days to send a refund if I'm not mistaken.
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  • Profile picture of the author cadillac48
    It really is simple. You should never place any faith in these "kids". Every product I have bought from marketers under 25 had been crap. The guys this age do not think like responsible adults because they are not! They are just irresponsible kids. They have no ethics and dont give a crap about their prospective customers. Their entire focus is on separating you from your money, as much as they can get, and as quickly as possible! That's the bottom line!
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    • Profile picture of the author mistermint
      Got my refund today though, I had to esculate it to CB to get it..Vendor closed my ticket a couple of times..

      Great review from dreamshaper..
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    • Profile picture of the author RickDayle
      Originally Posted by cadillac48 View Post

      It really is simple. You should never place any faith in these "kids". Every product I have bought from marketers under 25 had been crap. The guys this age do not think like responsible adults because they are not! They are just irresponsible kids. They have no ethics and dont give a crap about their prospective customers. Their entire focus is on separating you from your money, as much as they can get, and as quickly as possible! That's the bottom line!
      Though I agree that there are some problems, I don't agree that every "kid" is bad as you portray. Yep, there are certainly some that are irresposible and riding the wave to quick riches, no matter what it does to their reputation. Unfortunately, there are a LOT of older folks with the same problems...

      Using blind and/or deceptive advertising to attract customers is hardly unique to youth. I'd hazard a guess that at least 25% of the older "seasoned pros" selling here through WSOs and other methods are in exactly the same boat. Yes, that's a really high number (though I've seen other people claim much higher percentages) but any place there is an opportunity to make a quick buck using Hype and Jive, its going to attract the less ethical "vendors" to take advantage as long as they can.

      Though forums like this can help, I don't see it diminishing soon, because far too few people read these review threads, and many of those buy anyway because they think someone may be "bashing" the seller...

      [sigh]

      Don't blame it on the "kids". They learned it by watching and emulating some of the most experienced "pros" out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ctscott860
    Yea I feel its not that good of a product from just reading the reviews.

    I been selling it since last week and I made $378 in one day
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    But about %50 has been refunded. I need promote a good CB product that has low refund rate. ANY suggestions? or niches?
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  • Profile picture of the author mrpals
    No matter how you slice it, read the sales pitch again, listen to and watch the sales video again,

    IT IS A LIE ---- He states you can go this if "heck you only got $50" I would love to see you purchase this and enter a CPA network with $3 ....... $47 was spent on the system
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloVTB
    This is bull****. A crappy product and a lot of false claims. And no support at all. Got my refund after reopening the ticket 2 times because he kept closing it with some stupid explanation. This was the support ticket I actually sent him and never got a response:

    So I've spend the last several hours looking at your videos, and I must say I'm very disappointed.

    I mean, basically you offer some sort of Quantcast and Website Traffic scraper or even a simple DoubleClick scraper based on keywords.

    I can't really see what the 6 clicks you mentioned are in the software to make a killing overnight.

    First of all.. lets look at this extract in your landing page:

    "You're wasting your time with...
    - Building websites"

    First thing I get is an affiliate URL to sign up for a hosting account? And a WebSite Design Offer of some kind?

    And what part of the software really is the one you can say to "AUTOMATICALLY Fill Our Pockets With More Cash Than Most People Dream Of Making In A Lifetime"?

    Another one:
    "ANYTHING that could POTENTIALLY lose money... would be immediately rejected by the software." -> Can't really find that feature, just know if the web site accepts ads or not...

    "The software was running as we slept...
    And the money funnel function was activated..."

    You mean your hosting server, right? I can't see where I can "Activate" the software...

    In fact, I can't see how this is the software I only need to make money online. I'd rather say, if anything, this would be the first one, 'cause now I have to spend my money to buy ads on Google's Display Network or on Mediabuys.

    By the way, you stated in your LP that I wouldn't need Google whatsoever nor any MediaBuys... So, what's up with that? And no keyword research? Hmmm....

    I see this as a cheaper version of AdBeat... but without any actual data of competitors.

    I feel ripped off, your software is actually a web site and I can't really see how you could attract 600,000 monthly visitors without spending a lot of cash, and that is exactly what you presumed that would be possible by using the software.

    (The software just indicates me where I can buy advertisement, but does not generate any traffic whatsoever).

    So I think you've thrown a lot of false claims in the landing page of your offer, besides offering upsells that make me doubt you even more and your "500 Limited Users" restriction. If you can't provide me information on how using the software ALONE can make me money, I will ask for a refund.
    Hope it helps. Will never fall again for this stupid "well made" yet scammy landing pages
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  • Profile picture of the author jenifer00
    As a proud owner of this product and all of its glorious upsells, I came here to see if anyone else had an issue with the product "support."

    I have been through all of the videos in this program and have been implementing everything he says. I agree with what some others have said, if you know anything about CPA I don't see anything new here. And, his failure to walk you through setting up a campaign is big -- that's the hardest part of CPA (for me).

    But, my real gripe is support. I submitted a ticket asking a question about the best place to start. I quickly got a "non-answer" asking if I had watched the videos and downloaded the software, which was so NOT relevant to my question, and i stated in my question that I had done this. So I followed up by re-asking my question. The answer was that I was being forwarded to technical support. Again, my question had zero to do with tech support. I followed up, repeating my question for a 3rd time and have not gotten any response for 2 days.

    Today, I submitted question number 2. In one of my "done for you" campaigns, the banners weren't working. I emailed customer support for the product, but all of my emails were returned as undeliverable. I explained this in my question. Of course, the answer that came back was that I needed to contact customer support for the product. Hello! Did you READ my question? I followed up, stating again that there is no customer support and the campaign I paid to have "done for me" is not done if it doesn't work. The response said sit tight, Steve will get your email and address your concern.

    None of the done for you campaigns are really done for you. I should have known better too . . .

    As for the commission worm, it's a WP plug-in that autoblogs for you and displays your banner ads with each blog post. It seems pretty cool, if it works, but I set mine up to post every two hours and it hasn't posted for almost 3 hours. I'm going to see what happens the rest of today, but I may be on the refund train here as I just can't imagine "support" meeting my needs here.

    I'm in no way bashing Steve Iser, I like his teaching style and he seems sincere. Sometimes i feel like experts are too out of touch with what those of us who are still in learning/implementing mode need to be successful. Some things are second nature to them and still greek to me. As for the sales letter, sadly, I just expect to be lied to in those things!

    Not an affiliate or anything, but I will say that I'm getting great value out of Chad Hamzeh's Traffic BlackBook. Haven't started following his advice yet (too busy with CC!) but from what i know his teachings seem very sound. (And he's available by PM and responds quickly, yeah!)
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  • Profile picture of the author jenifer00
    Thanks, Gordon, I agree. Steve recommended setting your blog to post every 30-60 minutes. I expanded it beyond that, but after learning more about the new Google rules over the last couple days it seems like most any type of auto blogging might be dead.

    I am refunding this product today. One of my "made for you" campaigns doesn't work and the $200 piece of software isn't working for me (as i mentioned above). It never posted content on my blog after the first initial posts.

    I put in support tickets, got ridiculous answers that my 6 year old could have formulated, and was finally told that Steve, and technical support, would review my issues and get back to me. That was on Saturday, this is Thursday, and I've had zero response. I have no idea if this product would produce results for people because it technically does not function and there is no support. Ugh. I just keep telling myself I should have known better, because I should have. . . Back to what's already working . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    First you said, and I quote:


    Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

    I wouldn't buy anything from a BLIND sales letter.


    meaning, if you can't show me the software or system in action, then I dont want it.

    Show me real proof. Good software and systems sell themselves! You dont need hype if the product is as good as they say it is!


    Then you said this:


    Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster View Post

    OK, I BOUGHT THIS JUST SO I CAN PROVE TO YOU GUYS THAT ITS A CRAP PRODUCT AND YOU SHOULD TRUST ME NEXT TIME I SAY DONT BUY A PRODUCT FROM A BLIND SALES LETTER...Wow I feel bad for anyone who falls for this product...

    It is NOTHING SPECIAL... and nothing you can't DO ON YOUR OWN

    all you are paying for is a "software" tool (if you can call it that) it's a web-based tool that does the SAME THING that Quantcast and Alexa do..

    and then you are paying for TRAINING VIDEOS that teach you how to "download dreamweaver" and "use FTP", find people who are already advertising a CLICKBANK PRODUCT to see if they are making money (by watching them for a week to see if they keep advertising then that means they MUST be making money.. wow amazing strategy and totally not true...)

    and then... do what with all this info?

    ...ADVERTISE A CLICKBANK OFFER AS AN AFFILIATE... WOW... AMAZING... wait, I thought this had nothing to do with clickbank???


    As for all the upsells... wow if you fall for that "done for you" crap with over-priced hosting and cookie-cutter templates and supposedly instant traffic.. then you deserve to lose your money.


    Lastly all I can say is that this guy does not look rich... cuz it looks like he filmed the videos in an apartment or something, he needs a haircut desperately, and a new wardrobe... and he drinks way too much coffee.

    Other than that, this course was NOTHING that I didn't already know. the software is crap, AND there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF that he even made money with this method!!!

    It was worth the $37 just to give you guys an honest review.


    P.S. Shame on you Steve Iser! Get a real product worth selling and you wont need such a HYPED up sales letter and video.

    So, You bought the product after you said you would never buy a blind sales letter style product and then expect us to believe you actually conducted an honest thorough review?

    A lot of other people ripped apart your review but honestly, saying his product is junk because he needs a hair cut, are you for real?

    Seems like you know absolutely nothing about the guy, bought his product when you stated you would never buy and then came back with a crap half baked review. Heck the dude who copy and pasted Steve's email was more informative than your review.
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    • Profile picture of the author mistermint
      Hi jenifer00, your welcome,

      Thanks, Gordon, I agree. Steve recommended setting your blog to post every 30-60 minutes. I expanded it beyond that, but after learning more about the new Google rules over the last couple days it seems like most any type of auto blogging might be dead.
      I'm running around 100 blogs some auto some hybrid ( mix of auto post and manual)...

      I'm sorry to hear that such an expensive product does not have the support which, we the customers deserve however, all is not lost...

      Check out traffic Kaboom from Jason Potash & Jason Katzenback...there are 2 pdf's one is Hybrid Traffic Formula and the other Auto Blog Buddy Set Up. Auto Blog Buddy is a free blog posting plug in...

      Please note: I have not tried it yet maybe today if I get time though, what they are saying in the reports makes a lot of sense...i.e. set up your blogs with at least 2 original posts of over 300 words and no ads for at least 4 weeks...they also show you how to set up your link structure for traffic..

      Once you get indexed then you can put some ads and Auto Blog Buddy will drip feed auto posts...if you want to auto post Amazon etc then, it's an upgrade but all the rest is free...

      If you can't find it shoot me a pm and I'll send you a link to the pdf with the download link for the free plug in...I'm not an affiliate for this by the way.

      They say:-

      Please do not copy, steal or swipe any content from this report. But, if you
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      Hope this helps,

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      • Profile picture of the author Adbeat
        fyi, the $297 "done for you campaigns" are screen dumps and reports from Adbeat.com

        You can access our entire database for a month for $199 and run all the reports and screen shots you want
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        • Profile picture of the author PabloVTB
          Originally Posted by Adbeat View Post

          fyi, the $297 "done for you campaigns" are screen dumps and reports from Adbeat.com

          You can access our entire database for a month for $199 and run all the reports and screen shots you want
          That's exactly what I thought
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          • Profile picture of the author donsean
            Hey dude,

            thanks man for the ebook and bonuses gonna check it out now and I'll provide a review. Looks interesting thanks for giving it away for free!
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDoughBoy
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    I personally like this web based software. I can find where the heavily trafficed sites are and negotiate ad deals with the websmasters directly. You get highly targeted traffic to your offers for much less than the cost of of an overpriced google adwords campaign. A lot of people here who bought then refunded are looking for that magic bullet and didn't take the software for what its worth. I think this software is golden and highly recommend it.
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    • Profile picture of the author lynneklos
      I am not going to go into a lot of detail here. I'll just say this guy provides very dramatic presales videos that sound amazing.

      In actuality, if you aren't all about PPC, forget it.
      I don't do PCC and I had no idea from the sales presentations that that is what all of this was about.

      As soon as I saw what all of this was, I dumped it and got my CB refund.

      Guess what? These people are STILL CALLING ME AT HOME!
      Almost DAILY!! And there is so much noise in the background, you can hardly understand what they are talking about. Obviously, a paid "bug people phone service".

      I finally had my husband get on the phone yesterday and he told them in no uncertain terms to NOT TO CALL HERE AGAIN!!!!

      Outrageous! I never heard of such a thing!

      I say, STEER CLEAR!!!!!:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author lynneklos
        I did want to add that many of you may be aware that Clickbank has now changed things a bit and the vendor has a chance to respond to concerns. It has been a while since I've asked for a Clickbank refund, but so, OK. I responded.

        I must admit I was really taken in by these sales videos, and I went for two upsells.

        There is one that is some sort of plug in, if I remember correctly, and with that one, the vendor was even trying to open up a new ticket after Clickbank had refunded my money.

        This was very confusing to me, as the email I received from the vendor indicated to me that the Clickbank refund ticket was once again open and moved back to "dispute" status.

        It took me a few emails back and forth with Clickbank, but they assured me that I could ignore those emails and that the refund was, indeed, final.

        Is this nuts to do to people - especially on the WF?:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author ravenjade
    Ok newbie here.... What the heck is "the worm"?
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  • Profile picture of the author KhadijahChapman
    Just FYI I did purchase the product and it seems to be pretty good. The thing I like is the upsell that i went for called commission crusher - since I am a newbie I am not sure if the price point is justifiable - $97 - however it does work and it works just as it says it would however I wish it were a bit more customizable if that makes any sense.

    However the key is will it bring traffic... We shall see, but it definitely got my blog jumping with some pretty good content via youtube, articles from article base and even Q & A from Yahoo Answers...

    It is supposed to drive traffic, and help to get me onto the first pages of google based on the algorithyms and back links etc., so we shall see...but so far I am really impressed with his style of teaching and he really teaches - he doesn't just talk and ramble on about a lot of personal development stuff...

    And I am TRULY an advocate of personal development but when I pay money to learn a new technique or installation of a new program or software, that is what I want most of the focus on... and so far he is truly over delivering... Hope this review helps
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  • Profile picture of the author mahal788
    I heard about this product last month and got all excited.
    Did a bit of research & found ALOT of negative comments about it.
    Do your research. You'll know that way if it's gunk or gold.
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  • Profile picture of the author grannydude
    Thanks Sonja for your reply to my post about Commission Crusher. I thought about asking for a refund and with your help, I shall do so. I should have known better; altho I've been messing with computers for a long time, I am still very much a newbie when it comes to Internet marketing. Steve is a very good salesperson and I really fell for his pitch. So thanks again for your comment. Post Script: I wrote to the "help" center again and asked questions about setting the Commission Crusher system up. The reply was to go over the videos again. No good; I had already watched the videos at least 3 times.
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    • Profile picture of the author rawstyle
      Originally Posted by grannydude View Post

      Thanks Sonja for your reply to my post about Commission Crusher. I thought about asking for a refund and with your help, I shall do so. I should have known better; altho I've been messing with computers for a long time, I am still very much a newbie when it comes to Internet marketing. Steve is a very good salesperson and I really fell for his pitch. So thanks again for your comment. Post Script: I wrote to the "help" center again and asked questions about setting the Commission Crusher system up. The reply was to go over the videos again. No good; I had already watched the videos at least 3 times.
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      Oh boy...the good old "Go over the videos again"! At least Steve didn't offer some 1v1 coaching over skype and then never show up...like some others out there!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jim Wallace
        Like many others, I was fool enough to get suckered by a sales letter from one of the people I have regarded as a man of integrity, simply because he had previously sold me a product which was valuable to me.

        I'll admit that the sales presentation by the vendor for the products was good, in that it got me to buy something.

        Is that good enough?

        I don't think so. There is a matter of business ethics and integrity. I think products should be as described.

        By those standards, it does not seem to me that this was a good sales presentation. The product was not as described, either in the emailed sales letter I received or in the sales videos.

        Neither person told me the truth, according to my view of the truth: Accurate Information.

        Both seemed very interested in the sale, but not in what was being sold.

        Regardless, I'd like to thank both parties for reminding me that the IM business is much like the Forex business.

        I've requested a refund, via PayPal, and via Clickbank. If unsuccessful there, I'll contact my credit card company.

        Sometimes I wonder how people sleep with themselves, but, apparently, that's not a problem for everyone...

        Never again will I buy anything related to internet marketing without first following my number one rule: Read Warrior Forum Reviews First!

        Sincerely,

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        • Profile picture of the author Stockbob55
          HAS 1 MILLION WEBSITES (ONLY)
          So let's look at this software. He himself said the database underlying the software had about a million websites in it and he will keep adding more.

          This is underwhelming since the sales materials indicate that his software will help you take advantage of the WHOLE internet of millions (billions?) of sites. Which is clearly impossible with a database of just 1 million sites.
          Ads need to be placed on top websites with high levels of traffic and so I probably wouldn't be looking outside of the top 100k on Alexa.
          I million sites is probably enough in reality.

          Secondly, this is just a tool and whether you choose to use it or go through the manual method of collecting this data, the underlying idea behind it is sound. Locating and copying a winning ad is a viable strategy to save time and testing.

          However, just because you find an ad that has been running for several weeks or months does NOT mean that you can always make money from it, sometimes the person running the ad will take a loss or breakeven on the front end knowing that they will make money on the back.

          I say this because the idea that "only an idiot would continue to pay for an ad that loses money" doesn't hold up.
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  • Profile picture of the author JordanHall
    I think it's worth buying just to see the sales process if nothing else.
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  • Profile picture of the author EliteWealth
    I'll tell you this though, it's a great product to promote. It seems that the market is hungry for this product so if you're like me you will go to clickbank and get your hoplink. Upon my last checking is was the Top #1 Converter On CB.
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    • Profile picture of the author RickDayle
      Originally Posted by EliteWealth View Post

      I'll tell you this though, it's a great product to promote. It seems that the market is hungry for this product so if you're like me you will go to clickbank and get your hoplink. Upon my last checking is was the Top #1 Converter On CB.
      I really don't agree with you...
      I think this sort of attitude is exactly part of the problem. You've essentially said that even though the product is bad (and has high refunds already) that it is good to promote because people are buying it.

      Personally, I don't want my name associated with garbage, and as a result, don't promote products I haven't purchased and use. If nothing else, it's the ethical thing to do. Yes, I'd like to make a lot more money, but I want to do so by providing a useful service, not by clinging to a product that is essentially ripping people off through hype and mis-representation.

      It's too bad there are so many people that will provide false reviews (essentially re-formatted sales copy) and promote products without any knowledge of the product or whether it is effective at all, just to make a buck. Making money with IM is a huge market, and will probably continue to be, but something has to change or its going to be nearly impossible for honest folk to make a living with it. That's not to say there aren't problems in other niches (don't get me started on snake oil supplements) but at least they don't push so hard with the blind sales copy...


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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewNeer
    My feeling on the recent Clickbank launches is that if you have to create a blind sales page (you dont know exactly what you are getting before you buy) then the product isnt good enough to actually reveal what the product is and they are just trying to get your money on the front end so they can cash in on the backend. #JustSayin
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