Mobile Mass Money

Lol - gotta love the folks that come into the reviews thread having not bought the product and say something completely untrue.

I actually bought the product and have been going through it for about an hour. The software is good but not earth-shattering. The training however is really good (it's not a pdf its a members area with training vids and the software).

I had no idea the sort of huge opportunity that was available with mobile. I've always thought it would be tough to break into, but this gave me a different outlook on it all.

I'd say well worth the $47 price tag

Yea - without giving too much away they teach how to get crazy amounts of really cheap traffic, and the software automates the monetization.

Its very smart I've never seen it before. Theres nothing about it I could see being considered unethical or against anyones T.O.S

I have this program and it is super super super.

Can anyone explain exactly what the software is and how the software works? I always come here first to get a breakdown of what a product consists of before I decide to purchase but no one who has bought the product has actually spelled out what it consists of.

Can someone please help?

Im interested to see what everyone is raving about - we try to keep up on what all the mobile marketing buzz is about so we provide services up to par with what people are hearing from these marketing video superstars that are all the rave today.

just in case it was thrown at us, We did by the product, but after going thru it, it was so unorganized, triple sign ups, they will make you a website but you have to pay a full year of hosting upfront, wth, I own my own host comp, I dont need it.
yes, the sms texting was new, but you have to buy credits,
well I bought the system, was it as simple as they said? hell no. you only pull someones leg so long until they decide to kick ya to the curb. We kicked it.
buy it try it, then come back when you have spend another 50-200. bucks on admob & after you've spent 5-20 hours searching for a mobile cpa or cb to promote. good luck,
most offers are not yet mobile ready and the texting sms restocking fees will kill your $$ before you see the results.
let me know how you do, I'm bookmarking this. There's my first review. I'll be back.

I went through the sales page and also this thread. Not convinced enough to buy the product and do not feel that it is to be taken lightly, as rankontop pointed out you have to spend significantly more than the $47 for the product on mobile ads. So just like some well-meaning PPC offers from the past, the end result is that you might refund and get your $47 back but nobody is giving back the $500+ (hypothetically speaking) that you had to spend on ads etc. in order to try the software/system.

I must say that the sales page and story really reminds me of some other product that was pitched just a few weeks back and really felt like they'd just copied tweaked some of the pics but essentially the same deal. The whole deja vu thing going on. :rolleyes:

Regards,
Rob

the prices for sending just one SMS text are crazy... this is just building good business for the creators of this new hype "mobilemassmoney".

Actually the biggest number of emails about mobilemassmoney I received ONLY from Frank Kern.

Without any affiliate code link.

Really weird, just like it is his own product.

Just straight the mobilemassmoney website.

Begging me to go there. Saying that he lost his sleep because of this amazing software...

And then I looked at... Frank Lucas

He looks a lot like Frank Kern.

And the copy is a lot like Frank Kern writing.

So sad that Frank Kern again signs his name on one of the biggest hype - no results guru bs...

I doubt Frank Kern promoted this. From what I've seen hedoesn't promote clickbank products. This is by Frank Lucas, maybe you got on the list for the product and the emails are from him?

As far as the course goes, after looking at the letter again I didnt see anywhere it said the traffic is free. Also for the website offer you don't have to pay for a year of hosting, I got the plan for $9.95 a month as an extra hosting account. The domain is a little pricier than usual at $15, but it's an actual custom website not like a template.

I have found that many marketers are too quick to set themselves up to fail with "what if's"

Like if you look at something new and automatically say: "i'm gonna lose $500 if I even try this", in your own mind you've already doomed yourself to fail.

Admob has a very low $10/ per day minimum spend, and with mobile traffic you can get a TON for that small amount. I have no idea where you got the "5-10 hours to find an offer" to promote - its really more like 5-10 minutes if you follow the video.

If you're looking for something you can just push a button and make money, you're never gonna find it. After going through this product multiple times over the past 2 days I believe it is definitely a great way to get into mobile.

And whether we like it or not, mobile is getting HUGE and the smart marketers who take advantage of it are going to make a lot of money.

Think of the old days of PPC. People who got in early made millions. If they had just been like "this won't work" without even trying it first, they would have made $0

just my $.02

I have lots of emails from Frank Kern. I am on all Frank's Kern lists and he has been bombarding the lists with "BUY MASSMOBILEMONEY". I can paste here all the emails coming from @frankkern.com

I bought this product last night and here is my review. (Sorry, this ended up very long)

I buy many info products regularly to stay up to date on what's new in marketing methods. I have also sold many products by teaching seminars and through the internet. So I don't necessarily expect an earth-shattering product every time I buy one. However, if I find a few good ideas in each, it's worth it to me.

Last night, I was very intrigued by this product. I must say, copywriting was very good. The emotional appeal, the "proof," the promises made... It was a pleasure to read (I love good copywriting).

So I bought the product and stayed up late into the night to watch all the videos. And then... I was disappointed.

So here's my personal opinion about it.

I'll start with the fact that what is described in this course is a method to make money by marketing affiliate offers through paid mobile ads. Does this method work? Yes. Is it going to be growing bigger? Most likely. Is it going to make millionaires? Absolutely. Is it as easy as the sales letter says? NO WAY.

So what I'm trying to say is that while this course goes over a viable method of generating income, I have some major problems with how it was sold in the sales letter.

Let's look at some of the promises in the sales letter:

1. No guru knows about it and nobody teaches it
2. The secret back door to cell phones
3. Start making money in 10 minutes
4. You'll get amazingly cheap traffic

Promise #1 - no guru knows about it and nobody teaches it.

The first half of the sales letter spends a lot of time talking about all the gurus that are lying to us and evidently have no clue on how to make money in the mobile marketing arena.

Quote:
"The best part is - Nobody has a clue on how this incredible software works. So the gurus won't even be able to figure this out."

The fact is, I've seen several courses starting back from spring of 2010 teaching the same method. In fact, I was recently reviewing a course called "mobile monopoly" and stumbled upon this thread. While I didn't buy the mobile monopoly, in his thorough review, Martin Brock revealed many similarities between these two courses and many of the problems resulting from this method (for example, sending paid Admob traffic directly to affiliate offers).

In fact, inside the members area, there are several links to "additional training" which just happens to be another "guru" who gives out a ton of great video training for free because he has a mobile affiliate network (most people here probably know exactly who it is). His training shows you so much more for free than this paid training does.

Promise #2 - the secret back door to the cell phones.

Ok, this honestly is what made me write this review. I have never written a review that was not positive, but I had to in this case.

Quote from the sales letter:
"It took him hours to figure it out, but he discovered he'd accidentally coded a "back door" into the software that exists in every cell phone in the world . . .

If the cell phone companies actually ADMITTED that this "loophole" existed suddenly everybody would be taking advantage of it.

I mean, think about it. They spent BILLIONS of dollars creating the network and the software that handles all the data transfer and phone calls for the entire world.

If they actually admitted there was a HUGE FLAW in their software that some punk hacker could exploit they'd get sued into oblivion.

So they're actually doing everything that can to cover their butts and keep anyone from finding out about this."

I mean, really?!

When you sign up for the service, you get the SMS messaging platform where you can buy keywords on a shared short code and then pay for text messages (at a rather high price, I must say). I have a white label of a different short code platform that is a lot more user friendly, capable and affordable. This is hardly a secret loophole that the cell phone companies would be sued over.

And are they really trying to "cover their butts" about sms marketing???

The second piece of software is the service that is sold separately (and for additional monthly fee) that allows you to create optin pages where a person has to send a text to get to the next page instead of typing in their email address. I can see how this could be a useful gadget, but it's hardly going to be a cause of $xx,xxxx earnings in the next month. It's a good piece of technology, but you still have to get the traffic to the page.

Promise #3 - start making money in 10 minutes

Quote from the sales letter:
"After about 10 minutes of easy set-up you'll simply start up the Mobile Mass Money software and watch as the money starts rolling in on complete autopilot."

I beg to differ. The system shows you how to find affiliate offers on different networks, sign up for them (which most good ones will have to be approved), create mobile landing pages, create mobile and autoresponder text campaigns and then pay for mobile ads to drive traffic.

It will take longer than 10 minutes to accomplish all that, and more importantly, if you have ever promoted products, you would know that it's not that easy to create a great offer where you can convert leads in 35 characters on the text ad and couple sentences on the mobile landing page.

In fact, I have been in mastermind groups with some of the top internet marketers whose names are mentioned around this board all the time. Just last month, we had a meeting and were discussing our results from using mobile ad networks and so far they are nothing close to stellar or proven.

Again, is there money to be made? Absolutely.

But it's far from "push a button and make a ton in 10 minutes." It requires a lot of testing, tweaking and I hate to say "playing funds" to figure out what will work.

Promise #4 - the endless flood of cheap traffic

Quote:
"I knew it was going to cost me a fortune for all this traffic...
It was mind-blowing. $173.46
I got over 70,000 visitors for less than the cost of a few dinners out with the family!"

The course shows you how to get traffic at 1c-5c per click on AdMob. Even if you take the cheapest price, you are looking a $700 price (up to $3,500 price) for that traffic.

Additionally, if you plug in the methods in the course of sending your autoresponse message via text (at their 10c/message price), that would come up to another $7,000 just for a one time response to the 70,000 people.

Don't forget, all this is before you make a dime in sales.

Therefore, either something is not right about that math, or the author has forgotten to mention how to get the really cheap traffic.

Summary

While I believe that using paid mobile networks to drive cheap traffic to products is a great method of generating income and will only get bigger, this course fails to deliver the promises in the sales letter.

If you are not familiar with this concept, it will give you a good basis of how this method would work.

If this is your last $47 dollars, then keep them and don't spend your money because you will need to invest more to make this system work.

This playing field is for serious marketers who can afford to test, tweak and make it work, not for the guy who just lost his job and is trying to break into IM field.

Sorry for the long rambling.

Katerina

Katerina -
Thank you for such a detailed and thorough review!

That is why I always check the WF before you click the buy button!

@ strategicmarketingTN newbie here but one of the best most thorough reviews I've seen since I've joined WF. Thanks for taking the time to do it.

@ sorrellaff Thanks for sharing your insight and actual experience using mobile marketing

Hey All,

Just a note on the Frank Kern thing...

There are at least 4 people using Frank Kern's name in the from line, and those are just the people I know of... there may be more. Frank hasn't promoted a CB product of any kind, to the best of my knowledge, since Commission Blueprint close to 2 years ago...

In short, Kern isn't promoting this. A fake Kern might be, but not the real one...

-Gary Ambrose

There are about 183 persons with the name Frank Kern living only in San Francisco.

Another 241 persons Frank Kern living in Los Angeles.

And so on.

Probably in United States there are more than 5 000 real people with the name Frank Kern.

They are not fake in any way.

They are all Frank Kern.

Just different Frank Kern 's, not the "big big guru" who uses swear words because he knows he attracts attention when he does that

Katerina,

Thanks for the detailed review & thoughtful commentary on the mobile marketing space!

You mentioned "I have a white label of a different short code platform that is a lot more user friendly, capable and affordable."

By this do you mean a service that will lease you their short code and you can create custom keywords for clients to use with that short code and they will manage/maintain a list for that client? If so, I'm interested in hearing yours and others suggestions on best mobile autoresponders that allow you to scale without it becoming either capped or prohibitively expensive to build and manage large list for many clients. I figured this was the best place to do some research on this topic for great input.

Thanks!

I do video and SEO services and started looking into other services that would complement what I’m already doing. After all if we are already in front of a prospect talking about increasing their online exposure and improving their site ranking then it just makes good sense to be able to offer any other services that also might help that particular client.

As such Facebook came on my radar and I ordered a few Facebook marketing courses. This seemed logical as FB is the biggest, baddest social networking site and they are now expanding into advertising. Facebook ads are supposed to open up options for businesses to tap into the social networks of customers and prospects to help sell more stuff.

I ordered some FB templates and training then built a FB page and added this to my services menu. It looked good – but - something wasn’t sitting right within me. It was that darn old nagging gut feeling coming back to haunt me. Every time I ignored it I usually found myself wishing I hadn’t.

I’m a little slow at figuring things out, but eventually the right thoughts start seeping into my thick skull. And the thoughts coming at me were not about how much money I would make offering my own version of FB services, rather how I was losing my focus again and ignoring my main pathway to success.

The SEO business has been pretty good to me so far and I needn’t risk my good name trying out something that is still unproven. Of course the Guru’s keep claiming this and that, but the reality is FB is still not a proven platform for advertising yet. Not even close what Google is with Adwords.

I know this thread is about Mobile, and if you’ll hold with me, I’m coming to that in a minute.

Once you understand Google Adwords you can set up little profit centers that will continue to work for you as long as you monitor and adjust accordingly. All you have to do is target your ads correctly and create a webpage that targets your customers. Make sure you capture the email address and don’t mistreat your customers and you’ll have an ongoing stream of income. It’s really that simple.

Facebook ads are a different animal. Some claim FB is excellent for targeting but I disagree. Remember, these are social groups of people who have a connection with one another and once someone within that group doesn’t like something, be it a product, service or a way a company is bothering them, they can cause havoc to one’s well designed marketing plan.

Facebook users will research using Google before making their purchase. For affiliate marketers this could also mean a lot of refunds.

The bottom line though is that while people are interfacing with friends and family on Facebook they are NOT in the mood to buy something being pushed at them. They are usually there to chat and enjoy life a little. They really don’t want to be sold!

I was talking with a business associate last week about this and he said FB had not worked for him at all. He markets various software products via free trials and his ad response was nil – zip – nada. He has a high Adwords budget and said he tried out FB with a few thousand $$ and just dropped it for lack of results. This is not to say FB is not working for some companies, it is to say that combined with my ol’ gut feeling – common sense approach to marketing – that FB has not found its groove yet.

And this leads me to Mobile.

Mobile falls in right in behind FB in that fact that most mobile users are not ready to be sold and not mentally set up to continually spend $ via their mobile phones – at least I know I’m not.

I believe mobile may offer me more opportunity than FB at this stage, but I'm not sure yet. It will take testing to know more.

We’ve all got mobile phones and most of us interact with our mobile all day long. Calls come in, we call out, we text messages about buying something while at the grocery store, or how much we like this new restaurant or whatever is on our minds. We can use local search to pinpoint a business and get directions to that business. All fine and dandy.

Since Mobile offers such a great connection platform it only makes sense that if we could just capture people when they are most in need of a product or service that using mobile to deliver a coupon or message about that product or service would be the best thing since sliced bread.

Sounds good in theory – but my gut tells me that theory is flawed.

First of all this number of 5,200,000,000 mobile users is bogus for you and I. Let’s cut to the chase and even assuming every man, woman and baby in the USA and Canada uses a mobile device that number drops down considerably. Closer to 400,000,000 or so.

Of that number, what percent actually text? Let’s say half of this so now we are around 200,000,000. Still a large number of folks, but about 1/26th of the 5.2 number.

Now, let us use a bit of common sense and ask ‘how many times will YOU want to accept $1.00 off coupons from your neighborhood pizza joint on your mobile?’ Would you be ok receiving one per week – how about three, or even five each week?

I don’t know about you, but I have trouble even keeping up with my email accounts (I have three and am on way too many lists already.) Then multiply this by tens, even hundreds of companies continually bombarding your mobile device with their ads, coupons, messages etc.

We will all soon be yelling STOP THIS MADNESS!

Mobile will have its place in commerce. What that is - is not there yet - and buying some other persons ‘vision’ of how that will make you money is only benefiting someone else and not you or your bank account.

Yes, I did also do a mobile page, and will be test marketing in my own way. I’m also aware that hundreds, if not thousands of people are now entering the mobile marketing marketplace with their own version of how this will go down – AND I expect conflict, turmoil and a shakedown before mobile figures itself out.

Talking with another friend who said he and his friends just don't interact with any ad type messages they now receive. Well - they do interact - they first ignore then delete the messages.

What makes sense to me is that the mobile carriers are no dummies and will also be working on their own version of how to make money with mobile marketing. You can bet that if there is real money to be made in mobile these carriers will be right in the middle of it.

Then ask yourself, what sort of chance do I have butting up against these mobile giants with their billions in operating capital who control their own communications platforms?

It’s like in “Honey I Shrunk the Kids” looking up through the tall grass wondering when that big foot will show up.

Just my thoughts. . .

Hi Katerina ,

Many thanks for that awesome and detailed review.
I have seen a ton of promotions on this and although I dipped my toe in this a few years ago when it was actually new and Gauher Chaudry was teaching it in a "proper" course. But it was way too new and the platforms were also new back then.

I was looking at it in terms of promoting affiliate offers but your review was so detailed enough for me not to touch it with a bargepole.

Many thanks again

Katerina,

What a fantastic review! Very helpful indeed, well thought out and articulated. If only every IM product that was thrown in front of us could be so well reviewed and analyzed.

Much appreciated,
Rob

Google shut down my Adwords account making me lose money, I don't know if I'm ready to give them my money on mobile ads...

Anybody know some alternative mobile ads platform?

Interesting to see such a lot of activity on this product. I think the thing to learn from the promotions for both mobile mass money and mobile monopoly (include local mobile monopoly) is the incredible quality of the product launches. I think the guys behind mobile monopoly did it best. They have been featured by ClickBank as champions in their network... and I guess rightly so. They have whipped up a frenzy over mobile marketing. Interesting how even the whiff of 'gold' can get so many interested. It really is like the old gold rush days.

Learn from how they launched their product into a largely uneducated market. That's where the real money is to be made here. Creating your own product and launching it like these guys did. If they were making so much money themselves from mobile marketing why would they be so quick to turn around and sell how to do it to 1,000s of others? The guys behind mobile monopoly have only been doing it for a few months and now are telling us they are experts? I don't think so. Got a good idea and created a 'killer' WSO (not a literal WSO but you know what I mean). Reverse engineer their product launch and do the same with your own product!

As for the product itself... mobile mass money... I think StrategicMarketingTN aka Katerina has really done a great job in reviewing the product. I am in the process of having a look too. (ClickBank is great for accessing products with such a good money back guarantee). I'd encourage anyone interested in mobile marketing to do some research on the net.... just use Google.... and you'll discover it's a huge industry outside of out little IM community. It really is. Many companies offering products and services. Huge corporations are and have been getting involved in this in a big way for some time. Apple is getting into it for one. So you know there is big money behind it too. It's cheap per-text or whatever, but as someone has shown in the thread the numbers grow very fast because of the shear number of phones sent to and that's money spent before seeing any return. Even if you get any.

One thing that local mobile monopoly (lmm) points out... and is probably something that should be looked at in more detail by small time marketers like us, is that the small business person is going to need help with marketing in this arena. That means off-line marketing of your product and service. LMM is attempting to teach how to approach local small business and get them as clients you can do mobile marketing for. Not rocket science with some research....but it is easier if some one does teach you the ropes.

Anyway, it's getting late on this side of the world. Until next time....

Graham

Katerina,

I'm glad to hear that you made the decision to go with our White Label Reseller Program here at Trumpia!

Also Danny, we will actually be going international with Trumpia's White Label Reseller Program within the next few months, opening up first in Canada and the UK, so hopefully we'll have the opportunity to work with each very soon.

Has anyone tried to set up an opt-in page on a mobile and sent responders to a video that they could watch on their mobiles? If so, how did it work?. The reason I ask was that over a year ago one marketer claimed that this was the best way to market on mobiles.

Also, with regard to mobile autoresponders a number of them exist. The one thing that I will tell you is that most of them have a variety of plans and the good companies will tell you that other charges may be incurred. Those are usually phone company charges.

Many of these companies have affiliate programs which are free to join. I happen to be an affiliate for one that has apps that customers download to their mobiles so that they can manage their campaigns from them.

I was also looking into this. Thanks everyone for the reviews. I think I will pass on it though after what good/bad that I have been hearing. Seems like its just another one of those products that came out there.

Great reviews, thank you for taking the time to do them. I have never bought the product but I have experimented with using admob traffic to a mobile landing page to capture emails to build a list. So far I have 129 clicks, out of over 66,000 impressions, and I got 8 emails. Only 2 emails actually went through cuz I had it set as double optin. I am going to change to just single optin and I am hoping that will make a difference. Only spent $13.43 so far so I am hoping I can make it work. We shall see. I have been very interested in promoting mobile CPA offers through OfferMobi, but after going through their webinars....which are fantastic and I would suggest anybody interested check them out cuz they have a lot of great info...it seems that you really need to have a big budget to get to a profitable stage. The guys at OfferMobi talk about actually calling up the ad platforms they use and having them block specific sources of traffic that are not profitable...you need to spend a lot of money with those ad platforms to get them to do that for you. Also, there is a site called Tracking 202 that is free and will let you track every aspect of your campaigns, well worth checking out. So I am a little discouraged with the mobile CPA idea cuz it seems that it really does take a lot of money to get a campaign profitable, I will let you know how my efforts go!

I just recieved an email with a link to a video for a product called Mobile Money Machines.
After reading all these reviews it seems this is the same product under a different name.

Thank you everyone who has posted it looks like I will be saving my money now.