Backlink Indexing Service Comparison Case Study -

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I am not the original author of this thread but he gave me permission to post it here after I PMed him.

...the results of one of my extensive tests I started in April 2011 regarding backlink indexing services. I have used BE, BB, BIE, LV, and obviously the services I'm comparing in this thread. Services like BE and BIE are good but can take weeks/months to get warmed up for decent indexing rates not to mention the time it takes to setup and manage when accounts get banned, etc.

The purpose of this particular comparison is to test the automated solution indexing services where you don’t have to do anything yourself, other than submit your backlinks. I always try to figure out the most cost effective way to spend my money so I thought this test was in order; not to mention that many people are paying for services which they are not really sure are worth the money. I'm not claiming this is the definitive test to go by. I am just sharing the data I recorded during my testing. My next case study may report on the improvement in SERPs from getting backlinks indexed (although this is a little trickier). My initial guesstimation just based on what I have seen occur on my own sites is that getting your backlinks indexed can really mean a huge boost for your rankings. That being said, on with the test…
No affiliate links or endorsements are used throughout this post. This is just cold, hard data.

Services Compared:
1. BacklinksIndexer.com
2. LinkJuiceMaximizer.com
3. Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com
4. Indexbear.com
5. Backlinkindexing.com
6. Linklicious.me
7. SenukeX Xindexer


Services Setup Used for this Test and Cost Analysis:
1. BacklinksIndexer.com
A. Basic plan – 1,500 URLs per month
B. Cost: $14.99 per month
C. Cost per Link = 0.0099 (NOTE: cost per link at Highest Package = 0.0067)

2. LinkJuiceMaximizer.com
A. Beginner Level – 2,000 URLs per month
B. Cost: $27 per month
C. Cost per Link = 0.0135 (NOTE: cost per link at Highest Package = 0.0067)

3. Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com
A. 1st Package – 1,000 URLS per month
B. Cost: $10 per month (Regular Price Plan)
C. Cost per Link = 0.01 (NOTE: cost per link at Highest package = 0.00787)

4. Indexbear.com
A. Pay for the URLs you Submit
B. Cost: $1.00 per 100 links
C. Cost per Link = 0.01 (NOTE: cost per link at highest package with 10% discount = 0.009)

5. Backlinkindexing.com
A. 2,000 URLs per month package
B. Cost: $37 per month
C. Cost per Link = 0.0185 (NOTE: cost per link at highest package = 0.013)

6. Linklicious.me
A. Pro Plan – 50,000 links per day - Using 20 URLs per Feed
B. Cost: 54.50 per month
C. Cost per Link = 0.0000363

7. SenukeX Xindexer
A. Small Plan– 50 URLs per day
B. Cost: $25 per month
C. Cost per Link = 0.016 (NOTE: cost per link at highest package = 0.012)

Link Setup:
D-Day Minus 5
Post Thousands of Forum Profiles using Xrumer with the same 3 signature links per profile
Wait 5 Days to account for any banning and/or automatic Indexing.


D-Day
1. Run all links through ScrapeBox Link Checker – Save Results
2. Run Saved Results through ScrapeBox URL index checker (Run Several times with Private Proxies to ensure high degree of Accuracy) – Save Unindexed Profile Results
4. Divide Forum Profile Links into groups for each Indexing Service
a. Each Group receives 500 unindexed, alive forum profile URLs
b. One Group of 500 is set aside and not used for any services. This is a control group to see how many are indexed without any external boosting.
5. Insert Links into each service and monitor results each day at the same time every 24 hours for the next 30 days using ScrapeBox to check for Indexed Links (See Chart for Day by Day Data)

At the end of 15 Days the Control Group of 500 URLs which received no external backlinks was found to have 27 URLs Indexed Naturally and 116 dead or banned URLs. Therefore, a Natural Index Factor (NIF) of -27 will be applied to each Indexing Service’s final Indexing Rate Total when calculating Final Indexing Rate %. A Base Factor of -116 will be applied to each group’s 500 URLS bringing our new Base Total to the modified 384.
Bottom Line: We are not going to count URLs that would have (on average) been indexed automatically by Google, nor will we penalize these services for URLs which were banned (on average) by the forum admins.

These are some of the toughest links to get indexed. Everyone knows that getting articles and blog type sites indexed can be challenging, but not impossible. It is the massive amount of forum profiles which can be really powerful if you get them indexed, but accomplishing that has become increasingly difficult.


Summary (Pre-Test Data):
Cheapest Service as Configured for Testing based on CPL (Cost per Link)
1st Place: Linklicious.me at 0.0000363 CPL
2nd Place: BacklinksIndexer.com at 0.0099 CPL
3rd Place: Tied between:
A. Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com at 0.01 CPL
B. Indexbear.com at 0.01 CPL
4th LinkJuiceMaximizer.com at 0.0135 CPL
5th Place: SenukeX Xindexer at 0.016 CPL
6th Place: Backlinkindexing.com at 0.0185 CPL


Cheapest Service at Largest Available Package based on CPL (Cost per Link)
1st Place: Linklicious.me at 0.0000363 CPL
2nd Place: Tied between:
A. BacklinksIndexer.com at 0.0067 CPL
B. LinkJuiceMaximizer.com at 0.0067 CPL
3rd Place: Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com at 0.00787 CPL
4th Place: Indexbear.com at 0.009 CPL
5th Place: SenukeX Xindexer at 0.012 CPL
6th Place: Backlinkindexing.com at 0.013 CPL


Maximum # of URLs able to be Processed Per Month
1st Place: Linklicious.me at 1,500,000
2nd Place: Indexbear.com at 300,000
3rd Place: Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com at 100,000
4th Place: Backlinkindexing.com at 20,000
5th Place: BacklinksIndexer.com at 15,000
6th Place: LinkJuiceMaximizer.com at 10,000
7th Place: SenukeX Xindexer at 9,000



Maximum # of Backlinks Built to Backlinks, (Backlink to URL Ratio)
1st Place: BacklinksIndexer.com at 210,000, (14:1)
2nd Place: Backlinkindexing.com at 150,000, (7.5:1)
3rd Place: LinkJuiceMaximizer.com at 100,000, (5:1)
4th Place: Tied between:
A. Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com – Uses different Method without building backlinks
B. Indexbear.com – Does not reveal method used
C. Linklicious.me – Uses RSS Feeds
D. SenukeX Xindexer - Unknown



Summary (Post-Test Data):
Most Effective at Indexing Backlinks over 15 Day period using 384 URLs as the Factored Sample Size Base (see chart)


1st Place: BacklinksIndexer.com with 374/384 URLs Indexed (97.40% Index rate)
2nd Place: SenukeX Xindexer with 146/384 URLs Indexed (38.02% Index Rate)
3rd Place: Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com with 120/384 URLs Indexed (31.25% Index Rate)
4th Place: LinkJuiceMaximizer.com with 96/384 URLs Indexed (25.00% Index Rate)
5th Place: Backlinkindexing.com with 90/384 URLs Indexed (23.44% Index Rate)
6th Place: Indexbear.com with 72/384 URLs Indexed (18.75% Index Rate)
7th Place: Linklicious.me with 28/384 URLs Indexed (7.29% Index Rate











Most Bang For Your Buck Computed as Cost Per Link Indexed (CPLI) (see chart)
1st Place: BacklinksIndexer.com with $0.0074
2nd Place: Linklicious.me with $0.0139
3rd Place: Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com with $0.0325
4th Place: LinkJuiceMaximizer.com with $0.0373
5th Place: SenukeX Xindexer with $0.0379
6th Place: Indexbear.com with $0.0768
7th Place: Backlinkindexing.com with $0.0792









The Bottom Line after 15 Days
It seems pretty evident that BacklinksIndexer.com has its act together and knows how to get some links indexed. As you can see from the graph they are well ahead of the pack. I only wish they allowed for more URLs processed per month, but it helps that they have the cheapest CPLI. I initially thought SenukeX Xindexer was going to dominate everyone since they came so strong out of the gate. It’s also worth noting that SenukeX has been over optimizing its Indexing service since launch and will most likely not have as good of results once they hit capacity. But, if you already have the software and only need to index a small amount of links per day then this is a good option. Nuclear-Link-Indexer.com looks to be a pretty decent service too, especially in the beginning, but they hit a plateau and didn’t ever get going strong again. Also, since they aren’t using the backlinks to backlinks method one has to wonder if these links will fall out of index easier or if they are “juiced” very much at all. I do like how they check your URLs for errors and active links before processing though. The indexing report dashboard is nice (although slow), but I’m sure most of us use ScrapeBox anyway. LinkJuiceMaximizer.com shows marginal results which looks to be about what most users of their service have been voicing concerns over for a while. Linklicious.me is not marketed as an “Indexing Service” per say but I wanted to include them in this test since they are commonly used. They deal with bulk URLs so based on that criteria I say they do a decent job at what they set out to accomplish, but clearly, pinging alone doesn’t result in getting backlinks indexed. Their CPLI is still super low (2nd place overall) because they have a very cheap price for the massive volume of links they allow per month. Backlinkindexing.com started out really slow but started to pick up some speed towards the end. As it currently stands their CPLI is the highest of all the services compared. Indexbear.com really surprised me especially since they just finished revamping their system. At first it seemed they were doing nothing at all to get these links indexed and then by day 10 we saw an exponential period of indexing growth. Unfortunately for them it is still very low when compared with the other services. Indexbear finished next to last in this competition (right in front of Linklicious) not to mention that they have the 2nd highest CPLI as well.


Final Words
These are the results of one man (me) and are not meant as a promotion for any of the aforementioned indexing services. I am merely illustrating facts so you can make the best informed decision for yourself and your budget. I am continuing my analysis of this study still and may post follow ups as time goes on. I am obsessed with statistics and I encourage you to conduct your own tests if you have any doubts as to the validity of my findings. I am brainstorming ideas on how I will conduct a case study on the effects of getting backlinks indexed and how it correlates to SERP improvement. If you have data you can share we can all benefit from this knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    wow! that was something I was looking for for a long time. I really appreciate your work here. I had just tested another service with poor results and I also discovered BacklinksIndexer.com but didnt know their effectiveness.

    Thanks to you I know more.

    One question to BacklinksIndexer.com:

    I know that they can process only a small number of urls per day. But is it possible to input a bunch of urls and they process it automatically per day or do we have to input them manually every day?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Anton
      You are able to upload as many URLs as you want to be stored in the queue. The only limitation is the amount we can process per day/month as stated for each package.

      It's really a very simple and effective system.

      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      wow! that was something I was looking for for a long time. I really appreciate your work here. I had just tested another service with poor results and I also discovered BacklinksIndexer.com but didnt know their effectiveness.

      Thanks to you I know more.

      One question to BacklinksIndexer.com:

      I know that they can process only a small number of urls per day. But is it possible to input a bunch of urls and they process it automatically per day or do we have to input them manually every day?
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  • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
    Been trying to figure out the best method. Thanks a lot for the time you put into researching this.
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  • Profile picture of the author RajaR
    Hi,

    first and foremost can I add to the thanks - This is a great post, clearly taken time and effort over

    Secondly, I had a question so backlinksindexer came first, what would you say about there ease of use?
    As in I saw the website and it can add 7000 backlinks per day (or 210000 a month) on the basic plan - Do I have to wakeup every morning and go on there and enter my website url? Or once i've added it once, it will just do it automatically? Also, how many keywords can I add for the backlinks?

    Many thanks and kind regards,
    Raja R
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  • Profile picture of the author Captain_Morgan
    Brilliant information i like
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  • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
    Awesome...just awesome...I am planning to do something similar for 2 desktop software that I recently bought.(index assistant and nuclear ping scheduler)

    With your permission, I would like to use your blueprint.

    Insanity, you are awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorspirit786
    Is Backlinks Indexer site still working? I cant get it to open.
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    • Profile picture of the author roddyfonline
      Originally Posted by warriorspirit786 View Post

      Is Backlinks Indexer site still working? I cant get it to open.

      same here site is down
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    Would love to see desktop based application for backlink comparisoon
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Anton
    BacklinksIndexer.com is back up. Our host had some electrical failure and the backup generator didn't get us switched on fast enough. Everything is working great now though.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    Thank you so much for reposting this case study. This is awesome, subscribe to this thread so I don't loss this. =) I am going to give BacklinksIndexer.com a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author thebasta
    IS the Index Backlinks | Backlinks Indexing | Backlink Indexing Service website service just for index backlinks or I can use it build backlinks to my squidoo page or website..
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  • Profile picture of the author NiallR
    Now there's a post that deserves a reward if ever there was one. You just answered a MAJOR question for me man so thank. I'll be cancelling my existing backlinking service I think - based on the pure lack of action/results from them so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bramantya Prakosa
    i saw your "fake" post too on backlinksforum pal, hmmm it's not good,you don't need to do that if your test is true insanity, if your service is good then it's good....people will find it sooner or later
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Anton
      I never claimed this was my post if you read carefully. The service is obviously good. The feedback has been amazing so far. Thanks everyone.

      Originally Posted by Bramantya Prakosa View Post

      i saw your "fake" post too on backlinksforum pal, hmmm it's not good,you don't need to do that if your test is true insanity, if your service is good then it's good....people will find it sooner or later
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      • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
        Originally Posted by Insanity View Post

        I never claimed this was my post if you read carefully. The service is obviously good. The feedback has been amazing so far. Thanks everyone.
        Actually the only good reviews I have seen are yours and the op's. I have seen many people (like the two posts above) saying they are not seeing anything near what has been reported here. The thread over at backlinks forum is not looking good either.

        Hope I am wrong but something smells here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bramantya Prakosa
    ow my bad... i'm sorry pal... thanks to clarify..
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  • Profile picture of the author howudoin
    I just have one question regarding backlinksindexer.com...Do they allow anchor text keywords to be added to your submitted URL's?

    I went to their site & it seems they match your submitted URL's against Trending Keywords.

    Bhupinder
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Anton
      We don't allow users to submit anchor text because our primary focus is to get your backlinks indexed. The system would also be far more open to abuse if we allowed user submitted anchors.


      Originally Posted by howudoin View Post

      I just have one question regarding backlinksindexer.com...Do they allow anchor text keywords to be added to your submitted URL's?

      I went to their site & it seems they match your submitted URL's against Trending Keywords.

      Bhupinder
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  • Profile picture of the author Captain_Morgan
    Insanity are you the creator of backlinkindexer.com??

    As im thinking of using it for my AMR reports, P & A Backlinks and EDU Backlinks

    Captain
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    • Profile picture of the author S Drost
      I just signed up and added 30 forum profile links. I will post the results next week.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Anton
      Yes I am the creator of BLI. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions.

      Originally Posted by Captain_Morgan View Post

      Insanity are you the creator of backlinkindexer.com??

      As im thinking of using it for my AMR reports, P & A Backlinks and EDU Backlinks

      Captain
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    I am currently using your service. For 4 days the service is running. However, none of the
    first processed backlinks are indexed so far.

    Is that normal? I had put in high PR profile links to be indexed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Anton
      Indexing rate varies quite a bit but we generally see that if links are going to be indexed it happens between 1 and 17 days.

      If you want to PM me your username I can take a closer look for you though.

      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      I am currently using your service. For 4 days the service is running. However, none of the
      first processed backlinks are indexed so far.

      Is that normal? I had put in high PR profile links to be indexed.
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      • Profile picture of the author velociphiles
        I have been using the service for two weeks at the 50 a day level and out of 700 links put through the system only 21 have been indexed - a 3% indexing rate.

        These are not forum profiles or spam links but mainly spun articles posted with AMR.

        I've written to support and will post what happens but at this rate the subscription is not worthwhile.
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        • Profile picture of the author velociphiles
          Fast response from support - Dan got back to me the same day and was pro-active in running my links through his own link checker.

          The main issue seems to be reliably checking if the links are:

          1. Alive
          2. Indexed

          We both ran them through scrapebox using private proxies but a lot show as dead when they are really alive - I suspect this is down to response time of the sites/connection speed. SB only allows a short time to establish a connection and then moves on.

          The number of indexed links was low, but Dan found more than I did and it is possible to find links that are indexed even though SB says they are not.

          So I posted this here as a warning to others who are using SB that it doesn't seem to be perfect at checking this stuff.

          However, that still leaves me with a lot of unindexed links...
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisfx
    Hi Insanity,

    Love the case study, and I wanted to give your BacklinksIndexer a try. However, I've tried ordering a package via Paypal and CC and both times its failed with an 'Internal error' message. Do you know what's going on here?

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Lindsay
    Fully Epic.

    thanks for the review, been doing alot of looking into backlink indexing services around and how "good" they are.

    Marc
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  • Profile picture of the author Teacherman
    Awesome review, it's nice to find someone who can afford to do a little experiment like this and then I just get to step in and reap the benefits!
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  • Profile picture of the author Glengara
    excellent info thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author PeacockBar
      Oh I have nothing to do with backlinksindexer and am not an affiliate. I only checked cos was looking at buying a one off cost WP type plug in installation and thinking of cancelling the service.

      Think I will stick with backlinksindexer and go for the one off cost WP installation too and only cancel if i can get similar results.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeacockBar
    I am having been using backlinks indexer for two weeks now. Checked one of my first runs - mainly profile links and quite a lot of PR0's in them too -between 60%-70% coming up on Sick Indexer Checker.

    Will check again in 2 weeks time but looks very good to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Captain_Morgan
    I also tried signing up for the free 5 day via paypal but keeps on asking me for a debit card dont understand why?? if you can come back to me dont mind trying your services and will then post a review!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shounak Gupte
    any reviews on the usefulness of the product?
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    • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
      Here is a copy from our mailing list.

      Crawling vs. Indexing

      There is a lot of buzz around getting "indexed by Google" and I think it's important to weigh in on the issue. I'll start with the summary and work backwards...

      SUMMARY
      If you are doing heavy link building (profiles, comments, and other weak links) Linklicious is a perfect tool because it guarantees crawling at 100%.

      FACTS
      You can rank with zero links in the index
      Indexed links are more valuable than non-indexed links
      Weak links are difficult to index and are poorly found by Google
      Getting links indexed is time consuming and/or expensive
      DETAILS
      We rank terms all the time with just profiles or profiles and a blog/article blast. Let me give an example... This week one of our local clients made it to page 1 for 'Houston Diabetes'. This interior page was a brand new page and not in the top 250 but we built some profiles and 8 days later it was on page 1. We did an index check on the links and exactly two were indexed.
      It goes without saying that indexed links are more valuable and give more juice than non-indexed links. If Google sees something as valuable it puts it in the index or cache and does its best to leave the weak pages out. I haven't done enough testing to measure exactly how much more an indexed link is worth, so I won't make a pull-it-out-of-my-rear guess.
      For those of you who have tried to index weak links, you'll know the amount of work it can take. I've run an enormous amount of tests to see what can do it - tweets, pings, blog comments, other forum profiles. The bottom line is it can take a dozen or more links just to get one page indexed. Common sense tells me that those dozen links would be more effective and less diluted pointing directly at my money site.
      If you get 1000 forum profiles or blog comments, getting them indexed is silly. You are going to need a huge farm of BIE or BE sites or pay a lot of money per link. Do you want to spend time managing those setups, creating the 2.0 accounts, handling the accounts that have been killed, or paying a lot per link? For those of us where time is valuable, it's much better to save time and shift the money to buying more links. It's the same (or less) cost, and an enormous amount more time.
      When does indexing make sense?
      When you are trying to build a balanced link profile of spam vs good stuff is one good case.
      If you want to keep the backlinking profile clear of too many spammy links.
      Link pinging from Linklicious is great for two reasons:
      It is dirt cheap.
      It can make your forum profiles go from 5% to 100% crawls, which is a 20x improvement in your effectiveness. I know it's obvious to most, but this is important: if your link isn't crawled it does you no good!
      Can Linklicious help you with indexing? Sure, a bit. But Google will never keep weak pages in the index for long. The main goal of the site is to magnify and multiply the effect of your everyday volume link building. It isn't a golden ticket to #1, but it lets you extract the full value from your current link building efforts.


      Notes from the site:
      We've been live two weeks now!
      We have a couple of cool things coming for the Pro users to make the service even more awesomer (oh yeah!)
      We've upped our capacity to handle over 40 crawls a second. For comparison's sake, on the initial beta site we could handle just 1.6! We can scale up in literally an hour should we have the need.
      We are waiting for our DBA to get back from a personal matter to make some important performance tweeks. Right now adding links manually sometimes is unbearably slow. We're on it!
      We pushed out some 10 minor edits this past week and have another 10 or so on tap for this coming week.
      We've had some great suggestions around the Wordpress plugin and will put those in the queue.
      I've got three favors to ask:
      If you've seen good success with the service, please post up in forums about it. We aren't advertising and word of mouth really helps us continue to improve and grow.
      If you have any ideas about how we can make the service better, please send them in. We have enough in the queue to get us through February, but I want to keep this baby growing!
      If you aren't tracking your results, please do. As SEOs you have an obligation to maximize your success. If you don't measure everything you do, you are just making your life that much harder. For every keyword I target I keep a log in a Google doc detailing how many links I build, what type of link I build, and when I make them. When I rank my words I can immediately see exactly what did it.
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      If you are confused about the service or wonder how all of this works, take a look at the infographic. And if you haven't upgraded, check out on what you are missing out on!


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      • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
        Here is a copy of case study from the mailing list


        Is Indexing Required to Rank in Google?

        In the search engine optimization world, the latest fad is getting in the Google index. Right now most SEOs think a link doesn't count unless it's in the index, right? Wrong!

        Generally SEOs read something that sounds good and they immediately hop on the bandwagon. A couple of years ago you wanted to be in the Google cache for your link to count but most recently it changed to being "indexed". But like we found when making Linklicious and RSS feeds, don't believe the hype.

        To give an example of ranking with zero indexed links, let me share with you one of our throwaway made-for-adsense (MFA) sites. We threw this site up six months or so ago to test out some ranking theories and promptly forgot about it. After getting so many questions about indexing and replying so many times, I decided to drag it up as an example I don't mind sharing.

        Site: Course Air : Flight training and flight schools for planes and helicopters
        Indexed links: Zero
        Ranking terms:
        air course #1
        course air #1
        flight course #1
        articles on flight school #5
        articles on flight training #7
        best flight course #7
        accelerated flight course #9
        accelerated pilot license #9
        best flight training #10
        the best way to learn to fly #11
        accelerated flight courses #12
        accelerated flying course #12
        accelerated pilot license #14
        accelerated pilots license training #15
        accelerated flying courses #16



        So what's the takeaway? You can rank easily with a large volume of weak links, just like a dripping faucet can fill a bathtub. That's what makes Linklicious.me so powerful - it takes that flood of low quality links and makes sure they are found and counted.

        This begs the question though. Would I rather have an indexed link or an unindexed link. The answer is indexed of course, simply because Google considers it more valuable. But I think so little of indexing that I never even check to see my indexing stats. Instead of building 10 or 50 links to get a page indexed, just throw those links at your money site where they can make a direct and obvious benefit without link juice dilution.

        So head out there and start testing these "facts" you hear about. Don't take what I or anyone else spouts as the truth. (And of course share some secrets with us when you find them!)

        Linklicious Updates
        Major overhaul to the database schema and indexing approach to speed up overall system.
        It is widely known that Google crawl depth is partly determined by page load speed. We improved our render time from ~400ms to ~150ms for your links.
        A handful of cosmetic changes and fixes.
        We have a new/rare database deadlock issue that pops up once or twice a day that we should get under control today or tomorrow.
        Due to our growing pains, we want to do the right thing by you guys. We are going to add an additional week of free service for every subscriber. Those of you who already got one week, you'll get another. If you are a free user, you have around 24 hours to sign up to get the free week. We're SEOs like you and just want to give you great tools for your job.
        We have a ginormous list of improvements on our product roadmap, but are really focused on getting this core faster and bug free for the site's primary purpose - getting your links crawled. As soon as we feel the site is where it needs to be we'll move to those enhancements.

        About Linklicious
        Linklicious was built by Houston SEO - Houston Web Designer - Humankind Search Engine Optimization and is designed and constructed by professional IN HOUSE developers. Our projects have ranged from transactional systems handling millions of dollars a month to fault tolerant server farms with a dozen or more boxes. I want this service to be amazing and useful, to continue to focus on automating the tedius parts of our job, and keep our community strong.

        If you are confused about the service or wonder how all of this works, take a look at the infographic. And if you haven't upgraded, check out on what you are missing out on!
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        • Profile picture of the author mlmguru
          Originally Posted by HKSEO Rotzee View Post

          Here is a copy of case study from the mailing list Is Indexing Required to Rank in Google?

          In the search engine optimization world, the latest fad is getting in the Google index. Right now most SEOs think a link doesn't count unless it's in the index, right? Wrong!

          Generally SEOs read something that sounds good and they immediately hop on the bandwagon. A couple of years ago you wanted to be in the Google cache for your link to count but most recently it changed to being "indexed". But like we found when making Linklicious and RSS feeds, don't believe the hype.

          To give an example of ranking with zero indexed links, let me share with you one of our throwaway made-for-adsense (MFA) sites. We threw this site up six months or so ago to test out some ranking theories and promptly forgot about it. After getting so many questions about indexing and replying so many times, I decided to drag it up as an example I don't mind sharing.

          Site: Course Air : Flight training and flight schools for planes and helicopters
          Indexed links: Zero
          Ranking terms:
          air course #1
          course air #1
          flight course #1
          articles on flight school #5
          articles on flight training #7
          best flight course #7
          accelerated flight course #9
          accelerated pilot license #9
          best flight training #10
          the best way to learn to fly #11
          accelerated flight courses #12
          accelerated flying course #12
          accelerated pilot license #14
          accelerated pilots license training #15
          accelerated flying courses #16
          What do you mean? I'm seeing 145 indexed links pointing to your site...
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          • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
            Originally Posted by mlmguru View Post

            What do you mean? I'm seeing 145 indexed links pointing to your site...
            When this email was written, that was the case. (Back in February) The point of it was you could rank without any of them being indexed. If you say google has indexed some of them now, yeah maybe..I haven't checked...but at they time...there wasn't any.
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  • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
    Linklicious is a little pointless being in this case study, why? Because they are apples and oranges. Linklicious doesn't try to get your links indexed, why? Because you don't NEED to be indexed to rank or increase your SERPS. Is being indexed good? Yes, is it 100% necessary and the only thing you should focus on? Not IMO.

    Linklicious pings your links until google crawls them, this is the most important thing because if google doesn't know about your links, you cant rank OR be indexed.

    The thing about indexing, is it takes more steps (and more money) to get them indexed when you can just use that money and time to build more links and get them crawled. (Which is more time and cost effective) This will raise your SERPS just the same. You can let your indexing happen naturally.

    So again, does the other service get you indexed better? Yes...because that is what it is trying to do...we are not trying to do that because its not needed. Apples and oranges.
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  • Profile picture of the author cinkz
    Wow ! Great case study. Thanks for sharing.
    I will try backlinksindexer
    usually i pingdevice.com
    How about indexingtool, backlink energizer, backlink booster?Anyone please give opinion/review about it

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author highave1
      Wow! nice case study, Thanks for sharing
      I may Interested for but I have little bit doubts, means some questions;

      1: What about the PR for the Links
      2: how many days means permanently or some days
      3: what about the IP? are they C class IP?
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  • Profile picture of the author Stawrew
    WOW, great work! Thanks for sharing, Dan!
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  • Profile picture of the author HostStage
    I saw this on BacklinksF first and i was using IndexBear by then. First I thought it`s a very good report but when I saw this on WF and on other forums too then i become skeptical about real information in this so i had to try it.

    I took the 5 days test and tried to compare the results with indexbear.

    After 4 days, out of 350 links processed about 100 were already indexed.

    With Indexbear i had like 20% index rate in 1 month.

    I would like to thank you for setting up this awesome service !

    There is only 1 think i don`t like about it :
    The system is restricted to process a number of links per day. This can be bad because for example, if i don`t set any backlinks to index for 2 weeks then i put 1800 profiles in queue, only 1400 backlinks will be processed eventho I`ve paid for 3000 because it`s restricted to 100 links/day.

    If you`re organized then you can use all your credits but for guys like me who sell profiles services ( which is the best around ^^ ), it depends more on how many orders you have...


    Anyway, Excellent Service and Support !

    I would rate 8,75/10 and not 10 only due to the system restriction.
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  • Profile picture of the author newwave
    great info. just what i needed. thanks!!!!
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  • From my experience getting your links crawled with a service like linklicious is a complete waste of time. They'll be crawled most likely anyway. I started using backlinksindexer.com over 2 months ago and my rank has gone from #15 to #3 and that's just from getting all my old backlinks indexed. I was using ping services and RSS feeds for 3 months before that and saw 0 results in the SERPs. That's all the proof I need
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    • Profile picture of the author HostStage
      Originally Posted by guillermophilips12 View Post

      From my experience getting your links crawled with a service like linklicious is a complete waste of time. They'll be crawled most likely anyway. I started using backlinksindexer.com over 2 months ago and my rank has gone from #15 to #3 and that's just from getting all my old backlinks indexed. I was using ping services and RSS feeds for 3 months before that and saw 0 results in the SERPs. That's all the proof I need
      Exactly !
      Google Crawl means nothing if they don`t get cached or indexed. They just don`t count... its simple as that.
      LinkLicious managed to sell a service that does not have any SEO value to a lot of people and even make them feel happy about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
        Originally Posted by Bragah View Post

        Exactly !
        Google Crawl means nothing if they don`t get cached or indexed. They just don`t count... its simple as that.
        LinkLicious managed to sell a service that does not have any SEO value to a lot of people and even make them feel happy about it.

        Then how do you explain how a site with 50 links can outrank one with 1000? Or a site with PR 0 outrank one that is PR 5. Clearly there is more than just PR and indexing. It's a number you can measure, but it has little bearing on ranking results.

        Pinging will work better for some types of backlinks than others. It's proven many times over with dozens of case studies throughout this forum and others. It's silly to think that G finds all links naturally. How does it find a forum profile that has no links to it? It doesn't and only will see it if it happens to crawl the moment it's been registered.

        The biggest problem with these situations when it comes to SEO tools is some people just don't know how to use the tools correctly, then instead of learning how to use them or blaming themselves..they blame the tools.

        Just because YOU shoot yourself in the face, it doesn't mean the guns stupid and doesn't work. Learn how to aim it properly
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        • Profile picture of the author radivoj
          Originally Posted by HKSEO Rotzee View Post

          Then how do you explain how a site with 50 links can outrank one with 1000? Or a site with PR 0 outrank one that is PR 5. Clearly there is more than just PR and indexing. It's a number you can measure, but it has little bearing on ranking results.

          Pinging will work better for some types of backlinks than others. It's proven many times over with dozens of case studies throughout this forum and others. It's silly to think that G finds all links naturally. How does it find a forum profile that has no links to it? It doesn't and only will see it if it happens to crawl the moment it's been registered.

          The biggest problem with these situations when it comes to SEO tools is some people just don't know how to use the tools correctly, then instead of learning how to use them or blaming themselves..they blame the tools.

          Just because YOU shoot yourself in the face, it doesn't mean the guns stupid and doesn't work. Learn how to aim it properly

          Hey' you are right on this one but not necessarily for example a site A with 100 links outrank site B with 1000 backlinks it's only 3 way to make this happen (this is not an exact science but most likely)

          1. If you have a highly optimized ON page for particular keyword that you try to rank for your 100 backlink will worth about 500 links of a site that doesn't have optimized ON page for search engine so if the site is ranked #1 on Google and have very poor optimized ON page with 1K backlinks if you create a highly optimized ON page and get 500 backlinks most likely you will outrank that particular site that has 1K links because of good ON page factor, Google will give you a lot of value to your site with Good ON page factor because Google will see your site as the most relevant for particular kw that is optimized for...again not necessarily that you will outrank with good ON page if site with poor on page has a lot of High PR backlinks from PR 5-7 it would be very tough

          2. If the site that has only 50 links is ranked #1 and outrank sites that have 1000 links it's most likely it has links from High page rank such as PR 5,6,7,and more, think about having a backlinks from PR 9 site that would give huge serp boost...

          3. and last one site has only few link indexed but is ranked #1 most likely it has a lot of crawled links, definitely Google will give them huge credit but it take a much longer to index them that's mostly links from high PR blog network such as SEO Link Vine, MyArticle Network, Unique Article Wizard, BuildMyRank, Article Ranks,Blog Blueprint..it take a longer to index these links posting article to high PR blogs but as soon as spider crawl them it will give them a huge boost in the ranking, I know that because I ranked site to #1 on Google for competitive term just submitting articles to SEO Link Vine and Article Wizard (and links still are not indexed yet) and of course having SEOPressor optimized ON page...

          these type of Blog network are so powerful to boost your site ranking when spider crawl the links...
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          • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
            Originally Posted by radivoj View Post

            Hey' you are right on this one but not necessarily for example a site A with 100 links outrank site B with 1000 backlinks it's only 3 way to make this happen (this is not an exact science but most likely)

            1. If you have a highly optimized ON page for particular keyword that you try to rank for your 100 backlink will worth about 500 links of a site that doesn't have optimized ON page for search engine so if the site is ranked #1 on Google and have very poor optimized ON page with 1K backlinks if you create a highly optimized ON page and get 500 backlinks most likely you will outrank that particular site that has 1K links because of good ON page factor, Google will give you a lot of value to your site with Good ON page factor because Google will see your site as the most relevant for particular kw that is optimized for...again not necessarily that you will outrank with good ON page if site with poor on page has a lot of High PR backlinks from PR 5-7 it would be very tough

            2. If the site that has only 50 links is ranked #1 and outrank sites that have 1000 links it's most likely it has links from High page rank such as PR 5,6,7,and more, think about having a backlinks from PR 9 site that would give huge serp boost...

            3. and last one site has only few link indexed but is ranked #1 most likely it has a lot of crawled links, definitely Google will give them huge credit but it take a much longer to index them that's mostly links from high PR blog network such as SEO Link Vine, MyArticle Network, Unique Article Wizard, BuildMyRank, Article Ranks,Blog Blueprint..it take a longer to index these links posting article to high PR blogs but as soon as spider crawl them it will give them a huge boost in the ranking, I know that because I ranked site to #1 on Google for competitive term just submitting articles to SEO Link Vine and Article Wizard (and links still are not indexed yet) and of course having SEOPressor optimized ON page...

            these type of Blog network are so powerful to boost your site ranking when spider crawl the links...

            Number 3 was the point I was trying to make that not all the backlinks will get indexed, but that doesn't matter because you don't need to be indexed to rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbgal
    I was going to sign up with Linklicious until I saw this thread. I ended up signing with BI because for the life of me, I can't see how "backlinks getting crawled" can be of more value than "backlinks getting indexed"!
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    • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
      Originally Posted by jbgal View Post

      I was going to sign up with Linklicious until I saw this thread. I ended up signing with BI because for the life of me, I can't see how "backlinks getting crawled" can be of more value than "backlinks getting indexed"!

      Because its not cost effective.

      Backlink indexer at 14.99/month gives you 50 indexed Links a day.
      Linklicious at 14.50/month gives you 10,000 crawled links a day.


      Now, one crawled link isn't worth one indexed link,true, but in our experience (1000's of websites and millions of links a day) 10,000 crawled links IS worth more than 50 indexed.

      This doesn't even count the fact that a % of the 10,000 crawled links will become indexed themselves naturally...actually, based on this test if you were to add 10,000 links a day (The ACTUAL option linklicious gives you) you would end up at the end of 15 days getting 6240 links indexed. Compare this to the 50 indexed links a day for 15 days of only having 750 links indexed.

      What it boils down to is, would you rather have 50.00 dollars or 10,000 pennies? A dollar is worth more than a penny right? So based on your assertions, if offered the two choices, you would rather me give you the 50 bucks over 100 dollars in pennies based solely on the fact that INDIVIDUALLY, the dollar is worth more than the penny.
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      • Profile picture of the author jbgal
        Originally Posted by HKSEO Rotzee View Post

        Because its not cost effective.

        Backlink indexer at 14.99/month gives you 50 indexed Links a day.
        Linklicious at 14.50/month gives you 10,000 crawled links a day.


        Now, one crawled link isn't worth one indexed link,true, but in our experience (1000's of websites and millions of links a day) 10,000 crawled links IS worth more than 50 indexed.

        This doesn't even count the fact that a % of the 10,000 crawled links will become indexed themselves naturally...actually, based on this test if you were to add 10,000 links a day (The ACTUAL option linklicious gives you) you would end up at the end of 15 days getting 6240 links indexed. Compare this to the 50 indexed links a day for 15 days of only having 750 links indexed.

        What it boils down to is, would you rather have 50.00 dollars or 10,000 pennies? A dollar is worth more than a penny right? So based on your assertions, if offered the two choices, you would rather me give you the 50 bucks over 100 dollars in pennies based solely on the fact that INDIVIDUALLY, the dollar is worth more than the penny.

        I don't want to start a debate on which service is better but to be honest, I WOULD like to understand some things. Based on the study, after 15 days, BI came out more cost-effective for cost/indexed links. I note here that it is based on one or two persons' results only.

        I'm not bashing Linklicious and the other services (Competition is actually good so many people would come up with better services) but based on your comparison of dollars vs pennies, I'd of course go with the pennies IF they were ALL legal tender. The final goal is to get indexed, right? So I'd rather have the 50 sure legal-tender dollars than wade through 10,000 pennies only to find that more than 50% is toy money.

        Maybe I'll sign up with Linklicious after all if only to find out how many of those tens of thousands of links getting crawled would end up indexed.
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        • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
          Originally Posted by jbgal View Post

          I don't want to start a debate on which service is better but to be honest, I WOULD like to understand some things. Based on the study, after 15 days, BI came out more cost-effective for cost/indexed links. I note here that it is based on one or two persons' results only.

          I'm not bashing Linklicious and the other services (Competition is actually good so many people would come up with better services) but based on your comparison of dollars vs pennies, I'd of course go with the pennies IF they were ALL legal tender. The final goal is to get indexed, right? So I'd rather have the 50 sure legal-tender dollars than wade through 10,000 pennies only to find that more than 50% is toy money.

          Maybe I'll sign up with Linklicious after all if only to find out how many of those tens of thousands of links getting crawled would end up indexed.
          1.I'm not sure what you mean by legal, ALL indexes with us are legal because we don't index them....it happens naturally through google. We aren't even an indexing service...we are a crawling service. Which was my initial point in this thread that we shouldn't of been included in this case study because we don't claim to be an indexing service. Indexing is more like a consequence or a byproduct.

          The final goal is to get indexed, right?
          2. No, that is our point....the final goal is to BOOST SERPS....right? The final goal isn't (At least in my case or any other SEO that I know) to get links indexed...every successful SEO that I know ,including myself, there final goal is to boost your SERPS.

          That being said, you can rank alllllllllllll day without getting indexed. We have put out case studies (and even posted one in this thread a few pages back) that you can rank without one single indexed link. You just have to have links that are CRAWLED, google knows about, and therefore carries weight to boost your SERPS.

          The analogy of the pennies is that it is super simple to get 10,000 pennies....its a little more expensive and takes more time to get $50 dollars. We concede that a dollar (Indexed link) is worth more than a penny (crawled link) but that a dollar is harder to get than 100 pennies and they both just buy things that cost a buck.

          When you add on top of that with the fact that with linklicious, some crawled links will naturally become indexed on their own it becomes obvious which one is more cost effective IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Wow this is great stuff- I'm thinking I should give BI a shot, it looks like they've got they're service down PAT.

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author marshallbailey
    A couple of questions:

    The original post mentions using scrapbox for collecting backlinks for the comparison.

    If I buy backlinkindexer do I have to provide all the backlinks or just my url's I want backlinks for??

    I'm in the process of building several niche sites... can I feed new urls into backlinkidexer on a daily or weekly basis?

    Thanks

    p.s. - any kind of Warrior or Warroom discount??? Not trying to sound cheap but on several recent purchases I see a few day's later where I could have saved if I had asked..
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  • Profile picture of the author diggs11
    its really helping information you shared with us... Thank You.
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    • Profile picture of the author MacWebHosting
      Originally Posted by sarakelly72 View Post

      Wanted to take a minute to post my results over the last 27 days on the basic plan. I submitted 1512 URLs that were processed and as of today I can see that 1164 are indexed in Google. I'm pretty blown away by how well this is working.
      Hi Sara,

      Great results, ... but WHICH services are you using if you don't mind sharing..?

      - Who for automated links (or are you doing it manually) ? Are they just profile links?
      - Who for indexing the links

      Cheers!
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

        I noticed you didn't have BacklinkBooster.com on your case study.

        I use them myself and I find they're really good at indexing backlinks

        James
        Hey James, I saw in another thread that you were basically losing your faith with BacklinkBooster.com because of all the bugs and system updates. I'm assuming you've regained confidence in their system and are noticing improvements now? Just curious, because I just signed up this past weekend and am hoping it does its job at getting my links indexed.
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        • Profile picture of the author sober
          Thanks for the comparison study and amazing info. Threads like this helps people like me to do away with reinventing the wheel.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    I noticed you didn't have BacklinkBooster.com on your case study.

    I use them myself and I find they're really good at indexing backlinks

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author Grensin14
      Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

      I noticed you didn't have BacklinkBooster.com on your case study.

      I use them myself and I find they're really good at indexing backlinks

      James


      what is your experience with this service BacklinkBooster.com regarding indexing links from forum profiles, web 2.0 properties, article directories and what is the time frame to index these links is it 2 weeks one month or more...
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    what is your experience with this service BacklinkBooster.com regarding indexing links from forum profiles, web 2.0 properties, article directories and what is the time frame to index these links is it 2 weeks one month or more…
    I wasn't really monitoring it so I can't give you a accurate answer per se but I notice my rankings shot up after Backlinkbooster kicked in.

    Before it was hardwork but I let the automation side of it plus it was cheap.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author smilika
    Thank you for making this comparison study. Exactly what I need.

    PS. I would also like to know the answer to Chris Sweeney's question.
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  • Profile picture of the author mlmguru
    Ok, here is my take on backlinkindexer. I find it strange that the creator posts a "case study", of course it is going to be biased, he's the creator.

    But, I'm not saying it doesn't work. Let me tell you what I tried. Since it was only $15, I thought I would give it a try, this is what I did.

    I submitted a url to socialmonkee for 100 social bookmark links, then I submitted the report for SM, 100 social bookmarking urls to backlink indexer.

    Shouldn't this this index those 100 urls, and give the original url I submitted 100 backlinks?

    Well, when I check the backlinks, the url has 1, just 1 indexed backlink.

    So what does it all mean, I'm not sure, but I have a feeling social monkee and backlink indexer are a waste of time and money.

    Can anyone help me see a different angle here?

    I read some of the previous posts, do non indexed, weak links even have any value?

    Someone help me out here.
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    • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
      Originally Posted by mlmguru View Post

      Ok, here is my take on backlinkindexer. I find it strange that the creator posts a "case study", of course it is going to be biased, he's the creator.

      I submitted a url to socialmonkee for 100 social bookmark links, then I submitted the report for SM, 100 social bookmarking urls to backlink indexer.

      Shouldn't this this index those 100 urls, and give the original url I submitted 100 backlinks?

      Well, when I check the backlinks, the url has 1, just 1 indexed backlink.

      So what does it all mean, I'm not sure, but I have a feeling social monkee and backlink indexer are a waste of time and money.



      This makes a great point...."The best indexing service" indexed 1 out of 100 links. Riiiight, thats some hot **** right there. And this wonderful "Case study" Was done by the creator where he basically bashes all other indexing services..and even includes "Crawling Services" that aren't meant to index in his study about how they index better than them.


      I read some of the previous posts, do non indexed, weak links even have any value?

      Someone help me out here.
      Of course they do..non indexed doesn't mean "Unknown". Indexed is just one of many databases...there are other databases like "Cached, images, crawled, Etc"....when you ping a link with something link linklicious, google crawls it...and then adds it to its crawled database, or sometimes to its indexed one...both are databases which have value and can boost your SERPS.

      There is a case study where using Linklicious we ranked #1 for multiple terms with 0 links in the index at the time.
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    Unbiased comparison from actual users.

    http://bit.ly/o88zq9
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    • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
      Originally Posted by chensmith62 View Post

      They must have never tried backlinksindexer.com because that is the ONLY indexing service that actually works. Linklicious is a complete waste of time. I heard that backlinksindexer actually has an even better pinging service as part of their integration not to mention all the backlinks they build. It's really a no brainer if you ask me and my SEO team consists of 10 people all using backlinksindexer and VERY happy with the index rate but more importantly the rank movement is very evident!
      Its the only indexing service that actually works? LMFAO, whatever 22 post guy who only talks about backlinksindexer when indexing questions pop up.

      Linklicious does 100% exactly what it was created to do and it does 100% exactly what it says it will do....which is get your links crawled. You can't get a "Better pinging service" than 100% crawled rate....how exactly do you do better than 100% lol?

      Here are quotes from the above link from ACTUAL non biased people using it.



      Look to the SERPs, not the index numbers. Those numbers are constantly in flux as google changes what is in the index. However, SERPs are the ultimate goal so you can get people to your sites and make some money.

      If we wanted we could build an indexing service that just killed it. But I don't believe in that type of service at all - it's just smoke and mirrors that some people get hung up on instead of figuring out why their sites aren't ranking.

      Indexing is a function of backlinks to the page, page content, page age, domain, and who knows what else.

      That said, Linklicious will help your indexing some. We just don't want to preach it because in our tests it doesn't cost justify.
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  • Profile picture of the author tune
    Thank you for sharing that link but it looks like backlinksindexer has way more votes with members of BHW so I'm a little confused. So the actual people using it believe backlinksindexer is better? I don't think your intent was to point that out but it looks like that is the case.
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    • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
      Originally Posted by tune View Post

      Thank you for sharing that link but it looks like backlinksindexer has way more votes with members of BHW so I'm a little confused. So the actual people using it believe backlinksindexer is better? I don't think your intent was to point that out but it looks like that is the case.
      The votes Randomly jumped up in a matter of a couple days after linklicious had a huge lead on them. I'm not going to speculate "how" that happened. As you can see in the post..more actual people, with post counts were sharing that they liked linklicious better.

      You can see all of a sudden a surge of 4 post count guys supporting backlinkindexer and guys with 100 or 300+ supporting linklicious. Wonder why that is *Sarcastically Scratches Head*
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Anton
    I just want to make 2 points.

    1. The original author of the case study came from backlinksforum and I believe he included linklicious mostly as a benchmark since that service is so popular. We all know they are not marketing directly as an indexing service.

    2. We actually integrate with linklicious because I feel it is a strong service for what it offers. I have nothing bad to say about that service since we use it as a small part of our methods
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  • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Extropy
    For me it really boils down to each person figuring out what strategy works best for them. Just think things through logically and test it! Too many keyboard warriors just read things and instantly believe them. Don't trust me or anyone else explicitly - go with what you see works for your specific sites. Track the Google SERPs for your keywords, be patient, adjust your strategy, try again.

    We're a bit lucky in that we have dozens of clients that pay us for SEO so we're constantly trying out new things and getting paid to learn and adjust. At this point we pretty much have ranking figured out. The challenge for us now is doing it more cost effectively.

    Also, I think every vendor should eat their own dog food. (That means use the services they push.) We do things backwards - figure out the strategy, automate the process, spin up a service - so we're always on the edge. I know some vendors here that don't even work to rank sites but instead try to trick people out of their money with WSOs promising the moon.


    Ranking sites isn't rocket science but it is work and it does cost money.

    Ok... Rant off.
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  • Profile picture of the author edge83
    Here's a question - if you enter "site:<url to your backlink>" whatever type of backlink it may be, and you get no result, does this mean it is not counting for you?

    I have links that DO show up in such a search, but they definitely do not show up on something like yahoo site explorer for backlinks which is what I believe most people here mean by "indexed."

    Clarification appreciated. Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Anton
      For the purpose of indexed on this level I am referring to Google since that is what people mostly care about. The easiest way to check that is with the info: operator.

      @HKSEO - I couldn't agree more with your last post. Well said.
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  • Profile picture of the author m1985nehal
    thanks really a nice information , but wont purchasing backlinks affects badly ?..is this advisable ?
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  • Profile picture of the author marcell12
    Thank you for the post HKSEO. It looks like most of the users on BHW are in agreement that BacklinksIndexer is the clear winner. I think I'll give them a shot now since they have such a large following of happy users. Are you sure this unbiased like you mentioned it is?
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    • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
      Originally Posted by marcell12 View Post

      Thank you for the post HKSEO. It looks like most of the users on BHW are in agreement that BacklinksIndexer is the clear winner. I think I'll give them a shot now since they have such a large following of happy users. Are you sure this unbiased like you mentioned it is?
      Go for it.
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    Thanks for the information you provide. I am very helpful to take a decision...
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  • Profile picture of the author mlmguru
    I'm convinced none of use really know anything for sure. The so called "case study" was submitted my the owners, of course they are going to show a positive one.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by mlmguru View Post

      I'm convinced none of use really know anything for sure. The so called "case study" was submitted my the owners, of course they are going to show a positive one.
      Although the OP is the owner of the winning company in the case study, he did not perform the case study himself, but re-posted it with permission. Since it was performed by a person independent of the OP, the case study is not biased, so I don't see anything wrong with that. If I had a product and someone wrote about how well it worked, I, as the creator of that product, would surely re-post the good news so that others can benefit from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Nash
    Very deep and good analysis. Thanks for sharing it with the Warriors.
    Good work!


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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Then how do you explain how a site with 50 links can outrank one with 1000?
      Seriously???? 50 PR 4 Blog posts vs. 1000 forum profile spam links

      Or a site with PR 0 outrank one that is PR 5.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Becks
    Not for anything other than separating the truth from lies I have to say that this thread is simply hilarious. The fact that this exact same so called "comparison" has been posted on the backlinksindexer site [hxxp://backlinksindexer.com/comparison] basically since it's inception should be a dead give away that this thread was created soley for promotional use.

    In any case, I guess someone always has to play the sucker...:rolleyes:
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