Traffic Travis 4 Vs Niche Finder

I hate to say it, but I'd wait a while for the dust to settle a bit on TT4.

Yes, they are having daily updates to fix stuff, but there's some basic stuff going wrong in there that really shouldn't be in a released product.

I'm also working with some stuff from Brad Gosse that he released on here recently (in another area) but at least HE had the sense to say it was in beta. TT4 should have been given another round of quality control before release - especially since the old version was so good!

Martin

As it goes I tried out Brad Callen's Niche Finder yesterday and it ok but to be honest, I can find A LOT more keywords using the free Google Keyword tool and my own methods

However if you want something that does all the grunt work and saves you hours sivving through hundreds of keywords at a time then it maybe worth checking out

James

I was thinking of getting TT4 but with people reporting all these teething problems and bugs, I decided to wait until things improve. I know I'll be losing the lauch discount and bonuses but then if I won't be getting reliable data for a while - what's the point? If you decide to wait too, you could use the basic Traffic Travis free version in the meantime. I don't know much about Niche Finder but Brad Callen does bring out good products.

market samurai,micro niche finder,keyword research pro,free traffic travis are not as good as niche finder in my opinion, wait for some time, brad will fix the issues..

I can recommend Niche Finder, bought it last week and am very happy with it. Saves me a lot of time.

I bought TT4 but yea there are definitely lots of bugs and I'm annoyed that it won't check my rankings any time I want instead of at a preset time.

I like it because of the SEO difficulty section and the rankings trackers.

Were there another piece of software that could do both I would gladly look into it.

Anyone know one?

Don't say MNF, I have that and it's fubared.

Market Samurai now lets you run inurl, intitle and average of the two.

I've had the good opportunity to work with Brad, and use NF extensively. The 'philosophy' behind it is very different from Traffic Travis. With so many keyword research tools, and ever-growing "feature creep", NF was designed intentionally to be a very narrow-focus product: return and evaluate a keyword list of 'digestible' size, along with potential domain name opportunities. It does this very well.

I'm also a long-time TT devotee. I won't comment on the current state of V4, but will say that I'll be using NF for it's simplicity and speed, along with using TT.

Michael

I REALLY like NF. It's so simple you think this can't be right. If I feel I need to dig a little deeper, I just run my narrowed down key words in KE elite.

Hey, thanks for your question and consideration for Niche Finder. I have a WSO for Niche Finder running right now. You can see my signature. I'm extremely confident that if you give NF a try, you'll see that it's the best of its kind at telling you if a keyword is one you can easily rank in Google or not.

Comparing TT or MS to Niche Finder, in my opinion, isn't really comparing apples to apples. Niche Finder is created to do ONE thing and ONE thing only... and that's to find you keywords that you can quickly rank in Google, start getting traffic from, and then make more money with your website by selling more products. (i.e. it's amazing at finding buyer keywords... the BEST keyword you'll uncover)

The other tools provide a ton of data, but don't do well when it comes to saying "yes, this is GOOD buyer keyword you can quickly/easily rank in Google and make money from."

None of the other tools analyze how good those top 10 sites are for each keyword. They only look at the number of websites... not the quality and reason they rank where they do. Without doing that, you won't get anywhere near an accurate measurement on how easy, moderate, or difficult the keyword is to rank and get traffic from.

In my opinion, THIS is where 100% of businesses need to start their online marketing efforts, because without this, you're going into things blindly.

Hope that helps a little. We offer a full money back guarantee. If you don't like it, just pm me and I'll refund you AND Paypal you a couple bucks for wasting your time :-)

Good luck!

Brad
P.S. Inurl, intitle, allinanchor etc... are all commands that are very inaccurate in determining competition level, as they only measure the number of sites and "not" the quality of the sites. It doesn't matter to me how many sites are in Google for a keyword, if those in the top 10 are unbeatable. It matters how "good" those top 10 sites are and intitle, inurl, and allinanchor tell you VERY little about that.

I'll weigh in with my 2c worth.

I've been a TT3 user for 2 years and bought TT4 when it was released.

I've also been a user of NF when Brad initially released it, so I am very familar with both pieces of software.

As Brad says, comparing TT to NF is not an apples for apples comparison.

However, let me say that the one function of TT3 that I never used (because it was very primitive) was the keyword research functions.

Even in TT4, I don't think I'll ever be using the keyword research functions.

What initially attracted me to NF is that it is designed to do one thing and designed to do it very well.

I hate having to sit down and watch tutorials and read through manuals to work out how to do basic operations.

NF is super simple, just crank it up, put in your keyword and off you go (the very first time you need to set your Adwords account details, but that's it)

The only other keyword research tool that I think is superior is SECockpit (not yet available to the general public), but for a keyword research tool that runs on your computer, I think NF is very hard to beat.

I've been using TT4 for a week now and almost ready to pack it in and request a refund, due to all the problems they seem to be having.

Constantly getting error messages, some of the stats they are showing up for my keywords and articles are simply not correct.

Been using SECockpit for two month now and love it....especially when you come across the "Diamond" keywords. Monthly fee can get a bit steep, so may have to look into the niche finder.

Interesting Jerry... I liked SECockpit, but I just found myself going to other tools instinctively - it never really got over the line with me. I think its a good tool, very early in its life, but the price is outrageous compared to others.

I have TT4 Pro as well and echo everything that everyone else says about it being in beta - its beyond a joke. Even the "Feedback" has a field for suggestions with the word suggestion spelt incorrectly - its like some kind of bad joke.

For the past week I've been able to virtually crash TT4 on demand - open it up, click on the project dropdown box and try to select a project - before you know it, you're hung and need to kill it with the task manager.

Today's debacle was infuriating - I downloaded today's build and ran it up. Went in to do some keyword research, my proxy had been "removed" from the settings between builds and the keyword search on Google hung. I left it running to see if it would fix itself and after about fifteen minutes I killed it. Then I couldn't use Google for half an hour on any of my computers without doing a captcha because I was apparently a scraping them - that's when I realised the proxy setting got lost in the upgrade.

The Ranking Report is broken, simply doesn't work. Every upgrade it changes your rank report refresh period to monthly, no matter what you select in the software. Not quite sure why I bother, the actual report doesn't work anyway and there's no manual way to refresh it.

I like Mark Ling, but I won't be buying a product from him on release day ever again.

Niche finder without hesitating. Better support

I bought NF few days ago and impressed with performance. This is a well implemented software to use for anyone. This doesn't have any complex system. Anyone can find keywords and EMD within few minutes.

I will vouch for Niche Finder... All though I have only had it two days and had some hiccups I will say that Brad's customer service is top notch. While I don't know if it is the "best" keyword tool for easy rankings it is definitely different and easy to use. I do like MS but I think it is only because I have been using it for quite some time.

Oh and I also have TT4 as for awhile I was a avid Mark Ling follower, in it's current state it is no use. Today was the first day I could dink around with the keyword research module but the seo analysis still error-ed out.

Like what? It does what it says by focussing on the top 50 keywords and if you right click you can get long tail, it gives you competition, adwords, domains etc. Market Samurai and this are a killer team.

not showing if domains are available... I even check them at godaddy and some are available in .net but are not displayed in the software as available.
The main reason I bought it was for something to show if the domain is available. otherwise it's the same as adwords keyword tool.

also, it's not showing anything in the bottom screen, it just always say's loading data please wait.

and yes, I have set it up with domainface and adwords

Sounds like you may have a bug. That is strange, I know that Google had updated their engine and it was causing not just NF but all the tools to stop working. Tried it today and it worked fine. I would contact Brad and he'll sort you out. Unless of course you've already got your money back . I swear by Market Samurai.

I thought about trying MS just thought I would try this since it's cheaper.

I've never once regretted buying MS. I've had it since 2008. Both of them together are killer. Another one that is good because of the volume it finds is Keyword Optimizer Pro, which is free.

I see this on Domainface website, I wonder if this is why the software is not showing if domains are available?

I only use TT4 for SERP watching. Not much else.