Niche Reaper

13 years ago

I would be interested hearing about niche reaper in more detail too. It claims to solve one of the biggest problems, finding profitable niches. Does it work with different languages?

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MCDavies

13 years ago

I'm surprised nobody is talking about this yet. I got the heads up by Alex Goad. It looks pretty impressive, so I'm chomping at the bits.

Before I jump in, I'd like to know if this is a continuity program? Or just a single payment? How much is it? Any upsells, downsells, sidesells?

Let's hear some real reviews shall we...

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Blazon1

13 years ago

It's a monthly payment, $77. I decided to check it out and bought in yesterday. Really, this is one of those things where you'll have to simply find some niches/keywords that appear to be paying opportunities, then throw up a site and see what happens. It seems to work as claimed in terms of the info provided, but you won't know if this is truly worthwhile unless you put it into practice for a few weeks or a couple of months. Some of the valuations of keywords/niches seem sensisble, while others have valuations according to NR that seem a tad off. But I'm no expert on this sort of thing, so maybe those figures are accurate.

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mindykoch

13 years ago

I didn't realize it was a monthly payment. Glad I checked.

Funny how in his copy he says that Market Samurai is expensive when it is approximately two months of his service.

It doesn't take very long before niche reaper is far more expensive than Market Samurai.

Granted - they aren't the same thing. My comment is only about HIS comment about MS price.

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gjd6599 13 years ago

It looks interesting, but it's not worth $77.00 dollars a month, plus if you look at the affiliate sign-up page, he talks about the three up sells that can earn affiliates $138.00 per sale.

Sounds like there is more to it than $77.00 a month, if you want it to work properly.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by ladylioness

Wow, I had a quick look at it yesterday, thought it was a one time of $77! Monthly? I don't know now unless it's really that good - hopefully some others will chime in here and give some feedback on their experience with it.

Originally Posted by Glengara

saw it looks good but not at $77 a month.... I'll stick with micro niche finder

MNF is an awesome tool but a totally different beast, how long do you spend using it per month to find the Niches you require? If it's more than 3hrs and you value your own time at more thank $20/hour (which you should surely!) then you're in NR territory straight away.

And that value proposition completely ignores the fact that MNF and MS etc. are all completely useless until you tell them what to research. If you're stuck for ideas.... you're just stuck...

Originally Posted by gjd6599

It looks interesting, but it's not worth $77.00 dollars a month, plus if you look at the affiliate sign-up page, he talks about the three up sells that can earn affiliates $138.00 per sale. Sounds like there is more to it than $77.00 a month, if you want it to work properly. Glenn

I totally respect your opinion but for me being told what niches to market every month rather than spending my time thinking them up and then researching them is totally worth $67/month but we all have to make our own value call and have a price we put on our own time.

Regarding the upsell, I wasn't a fan of these either. They're not required to use Niche Reaper at all, they are special offers for a home study course (traffic generation) and a PLR content pack. Both very good value but totally optional and not forced. There is a <Login> link at the top of the thank you page where the oto is located so you don't even have scroll through the offer to get past it. Totally your call.

Why did we implement the OTOs? Simply because you will not get JVs on board without them theses days. No other reason than that. I wish it was different but it isn't.

Originally Posted by mindykoch

I didn't realize it was a monthly payment. Glad I checked. Funny how in his copy he says that Market Samurai is expensive when it is approximately two months of his service. It doesn't take very long before niche reaper is far more expensive than Market Samurai. Granted - they aren't the same thing. My comment is only about HIS comment about MS price.

We don't make it clear enough on the sales page that it's recurring, I concede that and will look at having it addressed. It is very clear on the standard CB checkout page though.

Comparing MS with NR is like comparing apples with.... golf clubs

Well maybe not so different, but they are legions apart. You do acknowledge this in your post and I thank you for that.

In fact it seems it was perhaps our mistake for making the comparison in the first place in the copy. I've not seen that bit and will take a look for it now you have mentioned it.

IMHO MS is not expensive at all, in fact it is one the best value tools I have ever bought. I used to use it a lot, too much perhaps, it's easy to become a stats junkie with MS.

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As mentioned earlier NR is a different beast, if like me you're bored of thinking of new ideas and then analysing them and filtering them into workable niches then take a look at NR.

If you love working in a particular niche already and/or you enjoy pouring over various parameters and tweaking data then NR isn't the tool for you.

It was built for me and people like me, call us lazy if you want

but we're out there and we're willing to pay other people or other systems to do the work we find most mundane and repetitive.

To summarise if niche research isn't currently a problem for you then Niche Reaper isn't the solution either...

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by mindykoch

I didn't realize it was a monthly payment. Glad I checked.

Funny how in his copy he says that Market Samurai is expensive when it is approximately two months of his service.

It doesn't take very long before niche reaper is far more expensive than Market Samurai.

Granted - they aren't the same thing. My comment is only about HIS comment about MS price.

Hi Mindy, I've now been through all our copy and can find no reference to MS being expensive, I was surprised Matt had said that as we both think it is a great value tool and does what it does extremely well (but like I harping on - it does nothing without the original seed idea from you.)

All I can think of is that you may have seen copy from one of our JV partners that referenced MS being expensive?

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jorchav

13 years ago

The price (currently at least) is certainly $67, not $77.

It's being sold on ClickBank so it has their 60 day guarantee. That seems to make the prudent thing to do (if you think you might need good keywords/niches fast) would be to get it and try it for 30 days. If it works and is a keeper, you keep it. If it turns out to be hot air and hype, you pull the plug, get your money back and you are only out the time it took to check it up close...

O.K.? ;-)

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by jorchav

The price (currently at least) is certainly $67, not $77.

It's being sold on ClickBank so it has their 60 day guarantee. That seems to make the prudent thing to do (if you think you might need good keywords/niches fast) would be to get it and try it for 30 days. If it works and is a keeper, you keep it. If it turns out to be hot air and hype, you pull the plug, get your money back and you are only out the time it took to check it up close...

O.K.? ;-)

Are you for real? Surely nobody could be that reasonable!?!

Thanks for the great comment.

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Chris Sorrell

13 years ago

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Hi there. I'm thinking about getting niche reaper as it looks like an absolute godsend, however I have a quick question.

Whenever I have bought software during launch week or in the first month of release for instance, there is always 'teething' problems which often don't get ironed out until further down the road. This isn't just reserved for software bought off clickbank either, it happens with an awful lot of version 1.0 software launches.

Have you had any of those first week problems or glitches that can happen? Any reports from your customers to your support desk regarding bugs etc?

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jorchav

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Sorrell

@ BlogPig

Hi there. I'm thinking about getting niche reaper as it looks like an absolute godsend, however I have a quick question.

Whenever I have bought software during launch week or in the first month of release for instance, there is always 'teething' problems which often don't get ironed out until further down the road. This isn't just reserved for software bought off clickbank either, it happens with an awful lot of version 1.0 software launches.

Have you had any of those first week problems or glitches that can happen? Any reports from your customers to your support desk regarding bugs etc?

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That is an astute observation, Chris!

O.K. I bought in, joined, have no previous connections, here's my review.

Tutorials are a "Work in process" At present there is only one, a general introduction.

The knowledgebase is largely still an idea. It's search-able, but nothing much to find...

They have identified 42,000+ niches and are finding more at this moment.

Problem is, These are not, so far as I can tell, Search-able! So to access them you have to manually scan pages of 50 at a time. There is no discernible order.

Tutorials are promised for the future. Site seems to be bare-bones and not really ready for use.

To use the niches and KW's they have will require a good search setup. Without that the database is pretty much useless. That's where we seem to be right now...

They seem to be in early startup, not yet ready for prime time...

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by jorchav

That is an astute observation, Chris!

O.K. I bought in, joined, have no previous connections, here's my review.

Tutorials are a "Work in process" At present there is only one, a general introduction.

The knowledgebase is largely still an idea. It's search-able, but nothing much to find...

They have identified 42,000+ niches and are finding more at this moment.

Problem is, These are not, so far as I can tell, Search-able! So to access them you have to manually scan pages of 50 at a time. There is no discernible order.

Tutorials are promised for the future. Site seems to be bare-bones and not really ready for use.

To use the niches and KW's they have will require a good search setup. Without that the database is pretty much useless. That's where we seem to be right now...

They seem to be in early startup, not yet ready for prime time...

Hi Jorchav, thanks for the review, I wanted to cover some items you mention.

Tutorials are definitely a work in progress and always will be, we'll never finish sharing what we know. But there is more than one! Have you clicked on the training link at the top of the members' area? There are currently 11 videos in there and many more in production. We haven't posted more because launch week has been nuts.

I'm not sure what you mean by knowledgebase? Do you mean our support helpdesk? That's not really part of the product from an information perspective but obviously it will grow with time as more questions are asked and we add more FAQs.

You're spot on, we have 42,823 fully researched niches at the moment containing 533,152..3...4

keywords.

You can search the Niches table or the Keywords table, look at the bottom of the table. You see the input fields? You can filter the entire table or sort by any parameter you want, you can search for niches or keywords containing particular terms and you can favorite ones you like by clicking on the star next to each, bit like gmail.

The default order is the order they where researched in but you can instantly change that by clicking on a column header, all 1/2 millions rows are sorted or filtered in seconds.

Now I've been friendly so far, but time for gloves off now!

Your last few paragraphs are way out of line, you are of course entitled to your opinion but please come armed with some facts too.

Please log in and watch the first of the 11 training videos as you obviously haven't. That will teach you how to search, filter, sort, favourite, hide columns, export niches etc.

I'm genuinely curious as to how a site that contains 42,000 niches, 533,000 fully researched keywords and over 2.5 Millions URLs in a searchable sortable database could be described as bare bones?

Anyway, please take a look again if you have the time.

All the best

Gary

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jorchav

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BlogPiG.com

Hi Jorchav, thanks for the review, I wanted to cover some items you mention.

Tutorials are definitely a work in progress and always will be, we'll never finish sharing what we know. But there is more than one! Have you clicked on the training link at the top of the members' area? There are currently 11 videos in there and many more in production. We haven't posted more because launch week has been nuts.

I'm not sure what you mean by knowledgebase? Do you mean our support helpdesk? That's not really part of the product from an information perspective but obviously it will grow with time as more questions are asked and we add more FAQs.

You're spot on, we have 42,823 fully researched niches at the moment containing 533,152..3...4

keywords.

You can search the Niches table or the Keywords table, look at the bottom of the table. You see the input fields? You can filter the entire table or sort by any parameter you want, you can search for niches or keywords containing particular terms and you can favorite ones you like by clicking on the star next to each, bit like gmail.

The default order is the order they where researched in but you can instantly change that by clicking on a column header, all 1/2 millions rows are sorted or filtered in seconds.

Now I've been friendly so far, but time for gloves off now!

Your last few paragraphs are way out of line, you are of course entitled to your opinion but please come armed with some facts too.

Please log in and watch the first of the 11 training videos as you obviously haven't. That will teach you how to search, filter, sort, favourite, hide columns, export niches etc.

I'm genuinely curious as to how a site that contains 42,000 niches, 533,000 fully researched keywords and over 2.5 Millions URLs in a searchable sortable database could be described as bare bones?

Anyway, please take a look again if you have the time.

All the best

Gary

Hello Gary,

I looked for tutorials by clicking on "Tutorials". Figured that was where they would be. Found 1 there. O.K. Now that you point out the videos, I'll look at that too...

Looked around for sort controls on the Niche table, did not see anything I could identify as
such. Will look again, punch any buttons I find and see if I can get it to sort.

When I said "bare bones", I meant like a piece of computer software that will work for programmers but lacks the explanative text and user-friendly features that make it immediately usable for non-techies. [Maybe there is is some of that in the videos?]

By user friendly, I mean things like being able to do a (Search Engine) type sort on "dog collars" to see if there were any niches or KWs pertinent to that. How would you do that? sort titles alphabetically and scroll down to the "d's" for dog?

Would be happy to look again and correct any of my observations that are not justified, but when I tried to loggin again about an hour ago, the UserName and Password I received were refused and I am locked out until someone at amember@nichereaper.com gets back to me with info on how to access my account again...

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mtkman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jorchav

Hello Gary,

I looked for tutorials by clicking on "Tutorials". Figured that was where they would be. Found 1 there. O.K. Now that you point out the videos, I'll look at that too...

Looked around for sort controls on the Niche table, did not see anything I could identify as
such. Will look again, punch any buttons I find and see if I can get it to sort.

When I said "bare bones", I meant like a piece of computer software that will work for programmers but lacks the explanative text and user-friendly features that make it immediately usable for non-techies. [Maybe there is is some of that in the videos?]

By user friendly, I mean things like being able to do a (Search Engine) type sort on "dog collars" to see if there were any niches or KWs pertinent to that. How would you do that? sort titles alphabetically and scroll down to the "d's" for dog?

Would be happy to look again and correct any of my observations that are not justified, but when I tried to loggin again about an hour ago, the UserName and Password I received were refused and I am locked out until someone at amember@nichereaper.com gets back to me with info on how to access my account again...

Hello Jorge (jorchav),

when you go to Niches or Keywords you will have sort options at the bottom where you can type in a keyword, hit enter and it will give you all niches or keywords that include what you are looking for.

You can also sort by niche or keyword value etc.

The best is really to look at the videos. They are not long and you will know everything you need to know on how to use this tool very quickly.

I personally do not find $67 per month too much. You only need one niche per month and it pays for itself.

Cheers,

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by mtkman

Hello Jorge (jorchav),

when you go to Niches or Keywords you will have sort options at the bottom where you can type in a keyword, hit enter and it will give you all niches or keywords that include what you are looking for.

You can also sort by niche or keyword value etc.

The best is really to look at the videos. They are not long and you will know everything you need to know on how to use this tool very quickly.

I personally do not find $67 per month too much. You only need one niche per month and it pays for itself.

Cheers,

Max

Thank you Max, that's exactly how we thought about it when we priced the product:

If a member snags just one good niche, with one good available domain per month then how much could they earn per month? Then we charged a lot less than that number to hopefully make it a no-brainer.

Gary

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by jorchav

Hello Gary,

I looked for tutorials by clicking on "Tutorials". Figured that was where they would be. Found 1 there. O.K. Now that you point out the videos, I'll look at that too...

Looked around for sort controls on the Niche table, did not see anything I could identify as
such. Will look again, punch any buttons I find and see if I can get it to sort.

When I said "bare bones", I meant like a piece of computer software that will work for programmers but lacks the explanative text and user-friendly features that make it immediately usable for non-techies. [Maybe there is is some of that in the videos?]

By user friendly, I mean things like being able to do a (Search Engine) type sort on "dog collars" to see if there were any niches or KWs pertinent to that. How would you do that? sort titles alphabetically and scroll down to the "d's" for dog?

Would be happy to look again and correct any of my observations that are not justified, but when I tried to loggin again about an hour ago, the UserName and Password I received were refused and I am locked out until someone at amember@nichereaper.com gets back to me with info on how to access my account again...

Hi Jorchav,

I haven't locked you out but thanks for your PM I'll look into your account and would love you to take another look around.

I'll also take another look at the navigation to make sure I've made it as easy as it can be.

There is definitely a lot of user friendly info in the training videos, in fact you can get started with the system simply by watching the first video which is less than 10 mins.

The master search bar at the base of each screen on the niches and keywords tables allows you search for any keyword or filter by any column such as value, clicks, availble .com etc. You can easily sort any column by simply clicking on the column header. You can do greater than or less than filters and there is a star icon next to every keyword or niche so you can them to your favourites.

All the best

Gary

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Martin Percival

13 years ago

I thought I'd just chip in with a quick review/opinion.

I don't know if my staggeringly high procrastination quotient (PQ, I'm copyrighting that

) will ever let me get round to using all the stuff that NR has already shown me, but I'm definitely liking the choice it provides.

I owned the ill-fated (ahem) Magic Niche Finder a while back and NR is the closest I've seen to that tool for churning out countless ideas for niches - and it's streets ahead in how it then goes on and analyses them for you. I think the only factor they haven't taken into account in the final potential earnings figure is the adjustment that Google suggested for an average max CPC on the content network, everything else is factored in.

As a quick suggestion for existing users, I've found that sometimes it is worth taking the top keywords in the niche you've found (which may be very different to the name of that niche group) and running them back through the Google tool and sorting for the maximum CPC. It's a really quick way to worm your way into the niche to find the better paying keywords and you can then throw them round the loop one more time to get a whole batch of high paying keywords.

Damn! That should have been a $7 WSO

Martin

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin Percival

I thought I'd just chip in with a quick review/opinion.

I don't know if my staggeringly high procrastination quotient (PQ, I'm copyrighting that

) will ever let me get round to using all the stuff that NR has already shown me, but I'm definitely liking the choice it provides.

I owned the ill-fated (ahem) Magic Niche Finder a while back and NR is the closest I've seen to that tool for churning out countless ideas for niches - and it's streets ahead in how it then goes on and analyses them for you. I think the only factor they haven't taken into account in the final potential earnings figure is the adjustment that Google suggested for an average max CPC on the content network, everything else is factored in.

As a quick suggestion for existing users, I've found that sometimes it is worth taking the top keywords in the niche you've found (which may be very different to the name of that niche group) and running them back through the Google tool and sorting for the maximum CPC. It's a really quick way to worm your way into the niche to find the better paying keywords and you can then throw them round the loop one more time to get a whole batch of high paying keywords.

Damn! That should have been a $7 WSO

Martin

Martin, great phrase, I have an enormous PQ too, that's why I built it. We'll be introducing more & more anti-PQ features over time.

I have never heard or seen Magic Niche Finder, it sounds disappointing, Niche Reapers is a very different beast it seems.

Could you send me a private message or ping our support desk regarding the "adjustment that Google suggested for an average max CPC on the content network", I'd love to build that in too.

I'm also looking into your suggest in the final paragraph and trying to follow it through and then perhaps automate it. Would be good to chat about that too.

Very generous info. thank you.

All the best

Gary

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Sorrell

@ BlogPig

Hi there. I'm thinking about getting niche reaper as it looks like an absolute godsend, however I have a quick question.

Whenever I have bought software during launch week or in the first month of release for instance, there is always 'teething' problems which often don't get ironed out until further down the road. This isn't just reserved for software bought off clickbank either, it happens with an awful lot of version 1.0 software launches.

Have you had any of those first week problems or glitches that can happen? Any reports from your customers to your support desk regarding bugs etc?

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Hi Chris,

Yes we have had teething problems, I wish we hadn't done a hard launch if I'm being honest, it's been hard work, we're approaching 1000 members and we didn't get everything right this week.

I've always done soft launches in the past with our BlogPiG products so this has been a very different experience for me.

I've had support tickets, I've had some members who's login details didn't make it into their inbox, we had 19 mins downtime on Tuesday night (at 1:30am my time!), and some of our CSS looked a little hokey in IE8.

We fixed it all though and we fixed it quickly and that's the best we can do so I'm cool with that.

We try and keep as many of our support tickets public as we can so they can help other users in future, you can head on over and have a read of the public ones if you want.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Blazon1

It's a monthly payment, $77. I decided to check it out and bought in yesterday. Really, this is one of those things where you'll have to simply find some niches/keywords that appear to be paying opportunities, then throw up a site and see what happens. It seems to work as claimed in terms of the info provided, but you won't know if this is truly worthwhile unless you put it into practice for a few weeks or a couple of months. Some of the valuations of keywords/niches seem sensisble, while others have valuations according to NR that seem a tad off. But I'm no expert on this sort of thing, so maybe those figures are accurate.

Thanks for trying it out and commenting here.

It's actually a $67/month subscription and has been since launch on Tuesday so I'm not sure how you ended up on a $77 month plan? I apologise for that and can change it for you if you want.

(Having said that I think matt did say we are bumping the price up to $77 today at some point so the prices mentioned here will soon be accurate.)

You're absolutely right in that you have no idea currently about the validity of the research offered in NR until you've tested it out. There is an element of trust initially...

Having said that, we're not trying to work miracles here, we're simply automating a tried and testing process for identifying keywords that:
a) are easy enough to rank on page of Google
b) earn enough money once ranked

For part (a) we use a simple formula that has served us well for many, many year. I have watched a webinar John Jonas where he describes using this method to build his niche sites, this method is taught by Adam Short in Niche Profit Classroom and also by Mike Johnson in AutoBlog Blueprint.

NB: I am not claiming that these guy where involved in Niche Reaper in any way, simply pointed out that method of identifying keywords we us it not new and not rocket science.

So for each keyword we use a combination of pagerank, Yahoo inlinks count and SEO indicators to decide whether there are ranking opportunities on page one.

If there are/is an opportunity we move on to part (b) and calculate the estimated amount of clicks that ranking in that position should attain, we then use CPC data combined with expected CTR (click through rates) and Google payout % to work out an estimated monthly income that could be achieved monetising with Adsense alone. 3 things can then happen:

-If the keyword is easy to rank for and pays out enough money (based on our criteria) we label it green
-If the payout is a bit less than our criteria or it is slightly harder to rank for than we'd like we label it amber
- If it is hard to rank for or offers little or no payout we don't label it at all

We then move away from keywords and start grouping them into Niches, but I can talk more about that if asked in another question.

So whilst there is an element of trust in the accuracy of our data I don't think a huge leap of faith is required to trust the 'system' we use for qualifying good leads as it's pretty simple stuff, well know, well used and well loved. That's the way I like so that's the way I designed it.

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Sunnyside_Services

13 years ago

Wow, I had a quick look at it yesterday, thought it was a one time of $77! Monthly? I don't know now unless it's really that good - hopefully some others will chime in here and give some feedback on their experience with it.

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Glengara

13 years ago

saw it looks good but not at $77 a month.... I'll stick with micro niche finder

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Randy Smith

13 years ago

Firstly - in the interests of full disclosure:
I was given a look around Niche Reaper as I know Matt personally (he does happen to be one of the good guys)

Quite honestly, I don't do all the keyword research that I should, I have a couple of people I reply on to tell me what I need done.

However - my tech friend was at mine and saw me looking at the software, and I asked his opionion....

He tells me that it's a great tool that will not only save him several thousand dollars a year

As he currently uses multiple tools at different price points to do everything that NicheReaper does...

But more importantly to him... it will save him around FIVE HOURS in time for each keyword he would normally have to use those multiple tools for!

So I wrote as such in an email to Matt which he has used on his salespage.

As Matt is a genuine guy, I thought I'd mention this here too.
That way you know my testimonial is genuine, and you might consider how many tools you would need to combine and use to do all that it does.
(I do know my tech mate has a thousand plus adsense site - so he is a serious player in that field... Maybe for the one or two some people build it would not justify the monthly fee?)

Hope that helps

Randy

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Randy Smith

Firstly - in the interests of full disclosure:
I was given a look around Niche Reaper as I know Matt personally (he does happen to be one of the good guys)

Quite honestly, I don't do all the keyword research that I should, I have a couple of people I reply on to tell me what I need done.

However - my tech friend was at mine and saw me looking at the software, and I asked his opionion....

He tells me that it's a great tool that will not only save him several thousand dollars a year

As he currently uses multiple tools at different price points to do everything that NicheReaper does...

But more importantly to him... it will save him around FIVE HOURS in time for each keyword he would normally have to use those multiple tools for!

So I wrote as such in an email to Matt which he has used on his salespage.

As Matt is a genuine guy, I thought I'd mention this here too.
That way you know my testimonial is genuine, and you might consider how many tools you would need to combine and use to do all that it does.
(I do know my tech mate has a thousand plus adsense site - so he is a serious player in that field... Maybe for the one or two some people build it would not justify the monthly fee?)

Hope that helps

Randy

Thanks Randy, I really appreciate the comments and feedback.

When I first played with the early versions of Niche Reaper I had a similar feeling, I was like a kid in a sweet shop!

I guess 'expensive' or 'not worth it', which is mentioned in this thread, is a very subjective term.

To me Adwords is the perfect example, if I bid for a keyword on adwords and it costs me $100 in clicks but I make $200 in sales per month then I'm pretty chuffed with that. If it makes me $500 in sales per month I'm over the moon!

In either case I would never call the $100/month that keyword cost 'expensive' or 'not worth it' - that would be nuts right?

And that's the way I see it with Niche Reaper, you pay $67/month, you find one good niche you would never have thought of no matter how long you sat in front of Samurai or MNF.

You buy the .com of one the bigger keywords in the niche because NR tells you it's available. You build out the site using articles based on the keywords NR tells you to.

You follow Matt's training to get some backlinks from Fiverr and other sources. The site ranks fast because of the keyword .com, traffic starts and you start making $150 in adsense.

You add some affiliate banners and a squeeze and write a 7 step autoresponder of offers alternating with content. Now you're making $350 month in adsense + commissions and your list is growing.

You repeat this once a week - finding a new niche each time from Niche Reaper.

Is $67/month still 'not worth it'?

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BlogPiG.com

13 years ago

OK, first off, full disclosure, I have a close association with NR and its development I am clearly not unbiased but I will try to be when responding to comments.

Gary

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13 years ago

I want to buy. Is it $67 or $77?

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Adam Sussman 13 years ago

Originally Posted by white5

I want to buy. Is it $67 or $77?

It was $67, now the price is $77pm.
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  Originally Posted by Adam Sussman
  
  It was $67, now the price is $77pm.
  
  It is indeed, we're approaching the 1000 member cap now, we always said we would increase the price to thank people who showed the faith early.
  
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fizzle

13 years ago

just recently found out about niche reaper and went to check out the site but it seem to be closed now.

Saying

WARNING: Niche Reaper is Now Closed To New Memberships

Niche Reaper is now an exclusive invitation only membership. Add your email to the waiting list to stay in touch.

anyone can give me an invite? or hook me up so I'm able to purchase it and get access.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by fizzle

just recently found out about niche reaper and went to check out the site but it seem to be closed now.

Saying

WARNING: Niche Reaper is Now Closed To New Memberships

Niche Reaper is now an exclusive invitation only membership. Add your email to the waiting list to stay in touch.

anyone can give me an invite? or hook me up so I'm able to purchase it and get access.

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Hi Fizzle,

I'm really sorry about that but one of the commitments we made to our members before they even signed up was that we would close the doors at 1000 members. We did that, well as close as we could, we did go a few over to be perfectly honest, but not many at all.

We do plan to open the doors briefly if/when when we have more capacity but I cannot make any promises about when this might be.

The best way to be the first to hear is to signup for the waiting list, and it is just that, we won't be mailing to that list for anything other than re-openings.

All the best.

Gary

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fizzle

13 years ago

if anyone can hook me up shoot me a PM with your contact info so I can get in touch with you. I can't seem to PM yet as I don't have 50 post

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mtkman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by fizzle

if anyone can hook me up shoot me a PM with your contact info so I can get in touch with you. I can't seem to PM yet as I don't have 50 post

The membership was closed at 1000 as far as I know.

The only way will be to register on their website and then wait.

It may be 2 weeks from now or 1 to 2 months from now that they will reopen for a short time to make the spots available from the folks that canceled their membership.

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ITByTheSea

13 years ago

BlogPig.com, I have a couple of questions: I just got an email from members at nichereaper dot com with a link to a sales page for something named: Fre-T-Gen.

I assume both are the same product, am I right?

The sales page says repeatedly: "Only 300 Members In The Entire World" Yet I know from this thread that the doors were closed at the end of May 2011 when you got your 1,000 members. So, which one is it? 1,000 or 300? Or is one plus the other? Or is it that 300 people went for a refund (30% refund in the first week? WOW!)? In any case, why does the sales page emphasize "Only 300 members in the whole world" if you already have 1,000 members (or even 700 for that matter)?

Or is it something completely different and I am way off mark?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by ITByTheSea

BlogPig.com, I have a couple of questions: I just got an email from members at nichereaper dot com with a link to a sales page for something named: Fre-T-Gen.

I assume both are the same product, am I right?

The sales page says repeatedly: "Only 300 Members In The Entire World" Yet I know from this thread that the doors were closed at the end of May 2011 when you got your 1,000 members. So, which one is it? 1,000 or 300? Or is one plus the other? Or is it that 300 people went for a refund (30% refund in the first week? WOW!)? In any case, why does the sales page emphasize "Only 300 members in the whole world" if you already have 1,000 members (or even 700 for that matter)?

Or is it something completely different and I am way off mark?

Hi,

No, FreeTGen is not linked to Niche Reaper. Niche Reaper is owned and run by me

Gary Prendergast and Matt Garrett.

FreeTGen is a new product just launched by JP Schoeffel. It's an opportunity to publish your on-topic posts with your backlinks across JPs extensive network of aged blogs. We rate it and I think Matt mailed about it today. It's a bit like linxboss if you've used that but more generous.

I think you're referring to 300 members' on FreeTGen page? Like I said above that's not us and not Niche Reaper. We closed the doors at 1000 members.

I'm afraid you were "way of the mark" on this one, but that's cool it was worth clearing up.

All the best

Gary

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newton

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ITByTheSea

BlogPig.com, I have a couple of questions: I just got an email from members at nichereaper dot com with a link to a sales page for something named: Fre-T-Gen.

I assume both are the same product, am I right?

The sales page says repeatedly: "Only 300 Members In The Entire World" Yet I know from this thread that the doors were closed at the end of May 2011 when you got your 1,000 members. So, which one is it? 1,000 or 300? Or is one plus the other? Or is it that 300 people went for a refund (30% refund in the first week? WOW!)? In any case, why does the sales page emphasize "Only 300 members in the whole world" if you already have 1,000 members (or even 700 for that matter)?

Or is it something completely different and I am way off mark?

The T-Gen program is a completely different product by a different marketer. It does something totally different.

Niche Reaper helps you find niches that are super easy to dominate. The other program helps you get 15,000 backlinks a month.

Tony

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BlogPiG.com

13 years ago

Originally Posted by mtkman

The membership was closed at 1000 as far as I know.

The only way will be to register on their website and then wait.

It may be 2 weeks from now or 1 to 2 months from now that they will reopen for a short time to make the spots available from the folks that canceled their membership.

mtkman

Bingo. I couldn't have summed it up better myself.

Thank you.

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BlogPiG.com 13 years ago

Originally Posted by fizzle

if anyone can hook me up shoot me a PM with your contact info so I can get in touch with you. I can't seem to PM yet as I don't have 50 post

Like I said above, join the waiting list, that's the only way in from now on.

If you're asking for a member to share accounts with you then please be careful not to get their account blocked.

All the best.

Gary
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cypherslock

13 years ago

Frankly, I HATE tactics like this. Look at Niche Finder, Market Samurai, Micro Niche Finder, Traffic Travis. All help you to do what Niche Reaper does. And NOT ONE of them limits who can buy the software. Or when. Never mind the monthly fee for now. Just that is enough to tick me off.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by cypherslock

Frankly, I HATE tactics like this. Look at Niche Finder, Market Samurai, Micro Niche Finder, Traffic Travis. All help you to do what Niche Reaper does. And NOT ONE of them limits who can buy the software. Or when. Never mind the monthly fee for now. Just that is enough to tick me off.

Which tactic do you hate? Do you mean closing the doors at 1000 members?

That's not a tactic it's a strategic decision and a promise we made to our members before they signed up.

Niche Reaper is a service, it's not a keyword research tool. Please don't compare us to Niche Finder, Micro Niche Finder, Traffic Travis or Market Samurai, they're all great tools but a different concept entirely. They are keyword expansion tools, YOU enter a keyword and they expand it into other keywords then they add some research.

With Niche Reaper you enter nothing, it is finding ideas for you 24x7x365 you don't have to type in 'golf' or 'betta fish' as your starting point, it finds the starting points for you and then researches them for you too.

Niche Reaper finds & researches over 20,000 new keywords per day, it searches real-time Twitter conversations, Google Trends and Yahoo amongst other places for trending keywords.

We smashed through the 3/4 million keywords researched mark recently and will be 1 million pretty soon.

Not all of those 20,000 keywords are good keywords though, in fact most aren't, that's the whole point of the system, it weeds out the poor keywords leaving the 'diamonds in the rough'.

The 20,000 keywords we research per day is a finite resource that we share amongst all our members, the more we let in the less value each niche would have as more people would be aware of it and begin to promote it.

The tools you mention above are not services, they have no finite resource to share amongst their members, they all run on your desktop as far as I am aware so they're not even using server resources. We have a 14 servers hosted at Amazon to do all the automated research and huge array of IP addresses to support it too. This is not a cheap thing for us to run.

If you hired a team of people to sit in a room full of desktop computers running market samurai and had them each dream up, type in and fully research a new keyword every 4.32 seconds then you might come close to what Niche Reaper offers - you might even better it

So it's not a tactic, well not a sales one anyway. It is a tactic to protect our members investment in Niche Reaper and of course that isn't completely altruistic, if our members make money because we protect the exclusivity of their niches then they will stay members, it's a simple win-win for all of us.

All the best

Gary

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newton

13 years ago

LOL! Gary answered whilst I was typing!

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balric

13 years ago

I saw this tool when it launched and I was really considering it but I saw that you use yahoo to get the backlink numbers. That put me off because those numbers are so far off. I also saw you are checking the page level links instead of the domain level links. That also put me off because if you are going up against an authority domain with millions of links you won't likely beat it even if the page only has 14 links unless you build up a good sized site with a good number of backlinks.

Is there any possibility of you adding the link data for the domain level and getting your link data from majesticseo in a latter release in addition to the data you already have?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by balric

I saw this tool when it launched and I was really considering it but I saw that you use yahoo to get the backlink numbers. That put me off because those numbers are so far off. I also saw you are checking the page level links instead of the domain level links. That also put me off because if you are going up against an authority domain with millions of links you won't likely beat it even if the page only has 14 links unless you build up a good sized site with a good number of backlinks.

Is there any possibility of you adding the link data for the domain level and getting your link data from majesticseo in a latter release in addition to the data you already have?

Good question. We implemented Majestic SEO backlink counts almost 2 weeks ago as Yahoo are phasing out backlink counts and their data is starting to become a little spikey.

We do list page level links and I think you can beat a Wikipedia page with low backlinks as long as you get a good chunk of links and use a keyword domain.

I'll certainly look into adding the domain level data as an additional column.

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balric

13 years ago

Great to hear that you added in majesticseo. That with everything else this does will be enough for me to try it out once you open again. I will just have to do the page level checking myself if you don't add it. I do agree it is possible to beat them but it is not as easy as beating a domain that would be in that spot.

Is there any possibility of adding niches to be checked if they are not in the database? I have domains already up and what I really want is to find more keywords that can be used with them that are easy to rank for.

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superdevo

13 years ago

I like the name "Niche Reaper"...but never heard of it

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normanh2

13 years ago

Despite all the "you only have to find one good niche - dah dee dah dee dah" I still think that $77 per month is a bit rich .

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Originally Posted by normanh2

Despite all the "you only have to find one good niche - dah dee dah dee dah" I still think that $77 per month is a bit rich .

Cheers ,

Norman H

Hi Norman,

Everybody has their own boundaries for what they want to/are able to spend on a product or service. You just need to assess the value of your own time. Break it down to an hourly rate and if you think NR saves you even just 20 hours a month (20 hours you could be spending on revenue generating activities instead), it's superb value per hour.

I'd challenge anyone to get all that research done more cost effectively.
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balric

13 years ago

I agree it is a bit high. If I signed up I wouldn't stay more then a couple months because I would have the niches I was looking for by then. Then when I ran out I would come back again. This to me is not the kind of thing you stay a member of for months or years.

A one time fee or a yearly fee would have been a good idea in my opinion.

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mtntgr

13 years ago

Its all in the ROI.
If it costs you $67, $77 or whatever
and you make $67 (or $77) * 2 per month from it you are making -

100% monthly / yearly from it

And that's only if you don't re-invest profits and / or scale-up at all.
(Which would indicate poor business sense.)

I've used all the keyword tools mentioned, and there is no comparison whatsoever in terms of -

ease of use
time saved

Although they would all be very useful for further analysis.
(Speaking of which a recent wso - SKCA is very useful, and a great deal.)

To use an analogy -
The Best Spinner is a great spinner...
but who in their right mind actually likes to spin!?

Also, bear in mind that (at least at this point) its more like an opportunity finder, than a traditional keyword research tool.

Back on Topic - Two Thumbs Up for NicheReaper.

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I agree it is a bit high. If I signed up I wouldn't stay more then a couple months because I would have the niches I was looking for by then. Then when I ran out I would come back again. This to me is not the kind of thing you stay a member of for months or years.

A one time fee or a yearly fee would have been a good idea in my opinion.

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dotcomdesigns 13 years ago

I don't why we had all the comparisons to MNF & MS as they only work with keywords you put in.

I think a better comparison would be against IMeye.

I thought IMeye was a great piece of kit but it was $147 a month when I signed up and I couldn't afford that. I see it's down to a paltry $97 a month now. They were very bullish about the price being $147, maybe the competition has caused them to lower their prices after all

NR is cheaper but is it better than imeye?
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Matthew Shelton

13 years ago

For whoever is interested, some posts are saying NR is closed but at this time on my computer I'm showing a live clickable buy link at ClickBank - hope that helps.

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BlogPiG.com 13 years ago

It's true, NR is open until tomorrow or until the 1000 limit is reached again, whichever comes first. An email went out yesterday to the waiting list, there are only a few slots.
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ResearchDiva

13 years ago

Just a comment on pricing for tools for your business:

Each person and each business is at a different stage - what is considered way too expensive for one person may be cheap for another.

Always look at your own business and decide if you will be able to get a return on your investment (the tool) in a reasonable amount of time.

For example....if you are only planning to put up 4 sites in the next 12 months, then your answer will be different than someone who is putting up 20 sites/month (240peryear).

Don't just jump in and buy something shiney unless you know that you can use it, that it will make running your business more efficient and more profitable based on your goals.

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ScrooG 10 years ago

This is regarding Niche Reaper 2.0, the latest one at this point.

Here's my honest review and I have no vested interest.

This is one of the best keyword tools I've ever used. It makes keyword research easy and almost fun! ;-/

Now, there are a couple of things I don't like so much:
1) I wish you could find ANY keyword in it. That would be awesome. I think they say they only put in keywords that get over 1000 monthly searches, which is fine. I believe they manually add the keywords to the database, so it obviously does not have every keyword under the sun.
2) I wish it had the option to choose Exact OR Broad searches.

So it's not good for just looking up any keyword that comes to mind. However you can input the basic keyword and maybe come up with something similar that you might be interested in. For example it may not have "Natural Beauty" but it may have "Natural Cosmetics" or "Natural Hair" (I just made this up as an example, I have no idea if these are or are not in there.)

The main thing is that if you do find a keyword you are interested in, in the data base, it has EVERYTHING you need to make a decision on that keyword/niche. It has all the stats on social pages, monthly searches, top 10 google sites, and so on.

All in all, I think this is a quite excellent tool and I really like it a lot!

Now, is it worth $47/month?
Unfortunately, not to me. If you were developing tons of new sites all the time, and making good money with a good percentage of those sites, then okay, it would be worth it to have this service.

But for most of us who are just researching keywords every once in a while, no, it's not worth it. It might be worth it to join for a month every few months or twice a year, do the research you need, then cancel before the next payment is due. I presume you can do that since it is set up on a monthly payment via paypal .

Now I suppose they know what it costs to run this service and I suppose they have based the price on how much it costs to keep it running. So the price is the price, I suppose. That said, personally, this service would probably be worth half what it is going for, to me. If they made it $19.95 a month I think they could get a lot more volume. But it seems they have a "scarcity marketing" attitude, keeping it down to just 1000 subscribers, if I recall? So that probably accounts for the high price. Personally if I were them I'd try to make it so it works for an unlimited amount of people and then make the price lower - better to have 5k subscribers at $20/month then 1000 subscribers at $47/month, no?

So anyway, as far as the usability of this service/tool, it is really great.
As for the price, you'll have to determine if it's worth it to YOU or not.
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cypherslock

13 years ago

This is the most sensible comment I've seen on this thread. And absolutely correct!

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Originally Posted by cypherslock

This is the most sensible comment I've seen on this thread. And absolutely correct!

I agree and it inevitably it wasn't one of mine!
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imaviators

13 years ago

is the keyword results are "exact" searches?

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LivingCovers 12 years ago

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is the keyword results are "exact" searches?

I'd like to know about this too. I noticed they don't match at all...whether for Global or Local searches...
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AdilAmarsi

13 years ago

Hey,
Niche reaper does work.

It's taken away a lot of my problems while sorting through the right keywords to go after.

Hope this helps dude. Btw my bonus is still open

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balric

13 years ago

Even if you are making money from it. It is really just stupid to stay a member of a tool like this. I have used other tools like this like niche horde and you get the niches you need and move on. This system will not find endless amounts of good keywords because there are only a certain number of really good keywords to go after. The people in the system will harvest the good ones and move on. That is how these things have always worked and once they do they are mostly useless because the systems do not go back and recheck all the keywords once they have been used in a few months or years. They also don't go back and recheck the keywords after google updates. The keywords that were good can be worthless after one update like the panda update.

I don't know if niche reaper does do any of that but I doubt it since that is not mentioned anywhere.

You can go on and on with the return on investment junk but that is only good if you are putting your money into the things that give you the highest return. Keyword research that is only partly done for you is not going to be the highest return. You will still have to do research even after any tool gives you a keyword. A keyword is not going to make you money by itself.

The real question with this is are you willing to pay a big price every month for a tool that does some of the work you need to do before you choose a niche. If you are building sites with a tool like monster mage it might be worth it but for the average person a monthly fee for partially done keyword research is not a good use of the money they have to invest.

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Jane Newman

13 years ago

Hiya Gary & Fellow Warriors,

Just thought I'd chip in and say you couldn't meet or rather, communicate with a nicer bunch of people over at Niche Reaper and Blog PiG.

Now I'm no fan of monthly subscriptions and I'm no techie when it comes to keyword or niche research - on the latter, I seemed to switch off for some reason, most probably because that part for me was so boring.

Blog PiG products, I'm just starting to use but really like the ease of use and the support offered - can't thank them enough for my purchase and support.

NR - just brilliant. I own a couple of keyword research tools including Niche Finder, which I still use and find brilliant (and the same goes for Brad C's support - great) ... I tend to use it when I know the Niche I'm researching and want to come up with loads of long tail KW's.

Market Samurai I own too and use that for specific jobs and again, I really like it.

As for NR, this is different again and brilliant for suggesting niches for you, saving you the time of having to 'find niches'.

The only thing I'd like Gary and Matt to consider for lovers of NR like me, is a lifetime pay once fee - pretty please guys

As for the mention of Free T Gen which was mentioned earlier in this thread, this is my only fly in the ointment as so to speak which is not owned by Gary or Matt but by a third party.

Signed up to it and like a vast number of people out there, I too was under the impression you had a new batch of 50 sitewide links each month and at the moment, I'm reconsidering as to whether I should continue with my membership especially as FTG support appears to have dried up on me (like others).

I give Blog PiG products and NR a big thumbs up though.

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senshai

13 years ago

I personally just wish Niche Reaper was open to memberships again. I feel like I am on the outside looking in, lol.

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moneyten

13 years ago

Gary, where is the total number of searches derived from? It seems to be vastly different from the adwords tool.

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George Kelly

13 years ago

I signed up to the waiting list but never got the email to confirm my optin

Anyone know when it will be reopen?

All the best
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youngworks

12 years ago

Any tool needs to be evaluated and compared to other similiar tools. As a professional SEO'er I use Market Samurai, WordTracker and Secockpit.

On investigation NicheReaper is most comparable to Secockpit.( And I would appreciate comments on my following comparative assessement, whilst noting that I know Secockpit much better than nichereaper.)

NicheReaper

Pros
+ Keyword grouping into niches (how this is done is unclear)
+ Opportunites clearly indicated using color codes for niches and keywords
+ Keyword in URL or title clear indicator

Cons
- Limited number of niches and keywords
- No ability to immediately investigate your own specific keywords/niche if they don't already exist.
- Unclear where data source is from Google, Dogpiles, Semoz etc
- Opportunity factor is dependent on weakness of competition and does not include traffic volume

Secockpit

Pros
+ Ability to research your own specific keywords with opportunity indicators
+ Semoz data sources
+ Ability to add Keyword lists easily
+ Google trending data with one click
+Opportunity factor includes volume and weakness of the market.

Cons
- No niche categories or grouping

Which is best?
Unless I hear some valuable comments from others - I am sticking with Secockpit because I can group keywords into niches myself and I cannot work with niches/keywords being chosen for me.

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Seth Stewart 12 years ago

youngworks, I appreciate your overview & comparison of NicheReaper to SECockpit. I also own and recommend SECockpit, and was thinking of trying Reaper anyway, because of its promise to actually serve up 20K new "definitely profitable" niches everyday. If that's true that could certainly cut the niche-research time in half, because even with SEC we have to research some potentially good niches FIRST, then research which are the best competitive KWs. But it sounds like you're not finding that intial niche-suggestion step to be all that worthwhile?

Also, yours was the first post here since back in August, when it was last closed down. I think that's because Warrior mods don't usually allow a current WSO and a product review thread to run simultaneously. Too bad, I'd sure welcome a lot more feedback than the mostly glowing recommendations on the WSO responses.
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servent1

12 years ago

Originally Posted by youngworks

Any tool needs to be evaluated and compared to other similiar tools. As a professional SEO'er I use Market Samurai, WordTracker and Secockpit.

On investigation NicheReaper is most comparable to Secockpit.( And I would appreciate comments on my following comparative assessement, whilst noting that I know Secockpit much better than nichereaper.)

NicheReaper

Pros
+ Keyword grouping into niches (how this is done is unclear)
+ Opportunites clearly indicated using color codes for niches and keywords
+ Keyword in URL or title clear indicator

Cons
- Limited number of niches and keywords
- No ability to immediately investigate your own specific keywords/niche if they don't already exist.
- Unclear where data source is from Google, Dogpiles, Semoz etc
- Opportunity factor is dependent on weakness of competition and does not include traffic volume

Secockpit

Pros
+ Ability to research your own specific keywords with opportunity indicators
+ Semoz data sources
+ Ability to add Keyword lists easily
+ Google trending data with one click
+Opportunity factor includes volume and weakness of the market.

Cons
- No niche categories or grouping

Which is best?
Unless I hear some valuable comments from others - I am sticking with Secockpit because I can group keywords into niches myself and I cannot work with niches/keywords being chosen for me.

I just subscribed to NR and noticed that they use global counts for monthly searches. Now I'm new to this but I was told that for adsense type of sites I should focus on local US counts. It seems logical to me since the majority of my traffic would come from the US. I know this depends a lot on the keywords that I choose but it seems that most of the keywords would be geared to the US.

If this is true, then that seems to be at least for my purpose, a major drawback. I think we all know that the global count vs the local US count can be drastically different.

Am I right about this?

I have SEcockpit now and perhaps might want to keep it. I just seem to have a difficult time coming up with the seed keywords and probably making it more difficult than it is.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks

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cypherslock

12 years ago

Any comparison to Espionage Software?

Thanks

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kbrady

12 years ago

I am curious if there are any more thoughts on NR. I have been looking at it and now that it has been out awhile does anyone have more thoughts on if it is worthwhile?

Thanks

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