Bring The Fresh vs. Extreme Niche Empires

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I'm having a hard time deciding between Bring The Fresh and Extreme Niche Empires. Both programs are backed by well respected IMer's and sell for very reasonable price (around $37).

Which one do you think packs the most punch?
#bring #empires #extreme #fresh #niche
  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Depends on what you want. BTF is excellent but there is a lot to absorb and you may find it a bit disorganized. ENE is straight, to the point, and easy to follow. Sean is killer on support as well, available on skype too. I have both currently working through ENE and loving it. BTF is excellent for the fact that you get to see several of Mike and Kelley's businesses dissected.
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    • Profile picture of the author CK Trust
      LOL... Thread must have been moved while I've written out this... Early morning, afterhours, slightly drunk masterpiece, haha... Took me too long to write and I gave it good energy in the process so here you go again (don't watch my grammar please, I'm a drunk german, early hours... ears still ringing from mashin up the ones and two's tonight, lol....)

      In all honesty mate... Your are, if even though a bit confused maybe (and rightly so, it's a tuff decision I know), on the very straight (even if rocky) road to success in both ways here (been there, done that all of last week)... Now before I proceed rambling on about my emotional recommendation, reasoned by the overdue conclusion that in fact my logic never has been flawed... BUT hijacked and sucked into the outter realm of the sheep herd mentality disease so much, I couldn't see through clearly anymore...

      Please let me get one thing straight before I go into the why's and how's I've decided what to do. I've been in a very similar situation as you are in recently (Only difference is I couldn't resist and bought both... ENE first and a week later, but better late then never... BTF):

      I've been through ENE completely (basic+advanced modules)... And as a matter of fact: Both, ENE and BTF are of equal quality! Each in it's own right, they are totally different approaches in terms of philosophy and strategy...BUT also the same in the light of uniqueness, honesty, realness and mindblowing over-delivery. ENE comes with straight to the point longevity, bare facts, how to's, technical greatness and completeness. There are no more than 2 ways this could go wrong for anyone buying into this...

      1.) It's too technical and detailed for you yet, because you still trying to get a grasp on the whole IM-picture and get overwhelmed. In this case, when/if you can/will overcome your roadblocks along the way (which will be there if your new to this, that's my promise, hrhr)... It will change your life. Sean Donahoe is one of the, in his field, most knowledgable and skilled experts I've yet to come across... He get's STRAIGHT to the point and into the matter of his business, no fluff but detailed, hardcore value. Leaving no stone unturned as he likes to call it. The downside with this approach, which in fact ain't really one because Sean delivers everything he promises you in the salesletter and pre-launch videos and you'll learn a ton... Is that it's really technical and to my experience, a bit impersonal. Guess it can be a bit intimidating for a newbie... If your intermediate and community spirit comes second you will gain immense knowledge and your horizon will be expanded a lot... If that's you... Go for it!!!

      2.) You have the push button mentality... In which case... You loose... Bwahahaha

      Now... BTF is a completely different beast in terms of teaching approach... Kelly and Mike really know there stuff too... But they've got the whole meta level covered also. They dont just teach you the how to, but also deliver the why's and most important the all-dominant mindset, in real live enviorment... BTF is for everyone, no matter what! IF you can see through and can adapt to the laws of sucess (presented in a case study style)... Sean Donahoe is a through out professional for sure... But the ease Kelly and Mike have done all those incredible things they did in their short time on this wonderful planet, and the community spirit they've created inside BTF is something I have searched a long time for... They are from what I can tell so far (to me at least), the most incredible teachers in Internet Marketing, full stop. Think Bruce & Lee of IM, lol... He fighted without fighting, they teach without coming across teaching. They are very real, they want you to succeed and deliver everything. From mindset to strategies to insight to understatement. If you can connect to their style and are blessed enough to see their vision through the ruffness on some edges in terms of organisation on the inside. All due to unbelievable over-delivery and insight into their minds, work, live and what not (which is due to their seldom seen creativity and productivity)... You will succeed in life in general. This is not just a affiliate marketing course... This is your glimpse at abundance, full stop.

      I will keep ENE also for sure, as they compliment in the whole picture in the same way as man and women compliment each other. BUT, if you'd ask me which one to keep IF I could choose only 1????

      Easy... Bring The Fresh all day long. It's like brainsurgery on a mastermind. Freshest kids on the block I've come to witness... And I've seen a lot, believe me.

      PS: I've only watched (not even) half of BTF Membership yet, as full disclosure will give you hours on hours of videos, over the shoulder training, practical/theoretical/tactical and philosophical insight and case studies galore... I can tell you that this is exactly and in all honesty worth 10 times the cost and then some...

      PPS: Sry I'm getting off on one here, I know. One last thing though... IF you get onto the otherside... Give your effing all to keep BTF what it is and don't pollute it with negativity or cuntish behavior... It's everything YOU make of it, so show some love and respect. Don't waiste what is a breeding ground of wealth and creation
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      • Profile picture of the author KellyFelix
        Wow, what a great review! Thanks!

        This is the reason we love to keep doing what we're doing.

        Glad to hear there's another product of similar quality out there too. I hadn't previously heard of it - no bash on it - I just tend to not pay attention to other courses, and focus only on ours and what we're doing, and the tools that work congruently with our stuff.

        (by the way, we give our skypes out to every customer too - AND our cell phone numbers!)
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        • Profile picture of the author CK Trust
          Kelly mate, you're welcome. I have to thank YOU and Mike for beeing the inspiration you are and for the insight you provide. Most talk all day long about value and overdelivery, many drip feed some in between, few make it 50/50.... You guys just do eeet...

          Right, off to sleep now... Tonight will be the last drum and bass/dubstep/house & garage monthly club until end of the year (at least) that I promote and dj at... Gonna be a big parting bang to make way for some proper IM-action time ... Foundations layed, mentors on lock... Gonna get me some nice platinum commissions this year... Bring the freshhhh. lol

          Will add you on skype sometime sunday... Btw. I'm Rapid Rate on BTF forums... After the weekend I'll be participating more on there. looking FWD.
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          • Profile picture of the author seankaye
            Sean gets awesome feedback about his products and support and I'm sure its well deserved, but my only experience with his products was Video Marketing Goldmine and I took the refund option on that product. I found the videos long and often they didn't seem to go anywhere - just Sean talking a fair bit and not saying much of consequence.

            Now that said, plenty of very smart people on here swear by him. So take what I've said with a grain of salt I suppose.

            Kelly and Mike are just straight up awesome. Their videos show you how to do things, but you learn the "why" as well. Kelly goes through stuff and does it live, but while he's doing it he's explaining his rationale and logic behind it.

            If you want to learn how to build sites that rank and convert - Kelly and Mike have you covered with BTF.

            Oh and the forum just rocks at BTF - a boatload of smart people to bounce things off of.
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      • Profile picture of the author tntebook
        Thanks for the great information! Exactly what I was looking for!
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Honestly, if you can, GET BOTH. You won't need anything else. and at the price its a (ugh) no brainer!
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    • Profile picture of the author samora22
      i currently have ENE and think it is awesome but based on reviews on this great forum i will also get BTF , Thanks guys for your help
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Richardson
    As a BTF'er , I can recommend them wholeheartedly. Kelly and Mike personal run the support and they are very helpful and friendly!
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    • Profile picture of the author Blazon1
      I have both ENE and BTF and can say that they are both excellent courses teaching different approaches to IM. If you can get both, by all means do so. If you are jittery about working with autoblogs, though, then go with BTF.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimNesbitt
    While I believe they are both EXCELLENT IM PRODUCTS I would have too say Bring the Fresh is the better of the two because of the AMAZING CUSTOMER SERVICE, VERY ACTIVE FORUM, and the fact that they continue to update the Bring the Fresh course as changes occur within the IM industry.

    Honestly there is no other IM product on the market like Bring the Fresh if they were to charge $500 instead of what they are currently charging I would think that customers are getting their monies worth. Tell me how many IM products actually continually update their product over a year after the product launch?

    Now Sara Young does as well with her Easy Paycheck Formula product but aside from those 2 I can't think of too many others.

    Once again don't get me wrong Extreme Niche Empires is an AWESOME product as well but if someone had too choose between the 2 and they wanted my opinion I would say Bring the Fresh!


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    • Profile picture of the author Itachi
      lol nice post CK trust
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    • Profile picture of the author CK Trust
      Originally Posted by TimNesbitt View Post

      While I believe they are both EXCELLENT IM PRODUCTS I would have too say Bring the Fresh is the better of the two because of the AMAZING CUSTOMER SERVICE, VERY ACTIVE FORUM, and the fact that they continue to update the Bring the Fresh course as changes occur within the IM industry.

      Honestly there is no other IM product on the market like Bring the Fresh if they were to charge $500 instead of what they are currently charging I would think that customers are getting their monies worth. Tell me how many IM products actually continually update their product over a year after the product launch?

      Now Sara Young does as well with her Easy Paycheck Formula product but aside from those 2 I can't think of too many others.

      Once again don't get me wrong Extreme Niche Empires is an AWESOME product as well but if someone had too choose between the 2 and they wanted my opinion I would say Bring the Fresh!


      Tim

      I couldn't agree more mate... Extreme Niche Empires is phenomenal and truly worth every penny and hour I've invested into it. But to me, comparing it with Bring the Fresh get's nearly impossible as I study along every day through BTF-Full Disclosure. There's this real magic about BTF because it feels so complete and delivers such a strong message that makes me feel like the battle is won... I'd pay a month wage with a big smile for this. But to me, this kind of feeling can never be measured with a price tag...
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  • Profile picture of the author garyk1968
    I joined BTF last july as a standard member as I was unsure about jumping in as a full disclosure member (which at the time was $497). Anyway I joined and found some really basic, but extremely effective steps for ranking. I've been around here and got sucked into a number of WSOs that I thought would teach me something new and they didnt.

    BTF made me realise I was looking for a silver bullet which doesn't really exist and for intermediate IMs there isnt that much you will learn from buying a bunch of WSOs.

    There is an awesome amount of content and when Mike and Kelly ran an offer to get Full Disclosure membership by buying two other products (for around 100 bucks) they provided membership upgrades to Full Disclosure.

    As mentioned above the very lively forum is also worthwhile.

    Gary
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  • Profile picture of the author TimNesbitt
    One of the BEST THINGS someone can learn from Bring the Fresh is succeeding in Internet Marketing really isn't as complicated as some people make it. If you are willing too TAKE ACTION with the knowledge you learn from Bring the Fresh then you will definitely make money!

    I agree with garyk1968 stop looking for a Silver Bullet learn the basics and quit buying every product that comes out every week. Once you start earning money by building Sniper Sites then RINSE and REPEAT pretty soon you will be able to start bringing in a Part Time income.

    One other thing if you build a site or two and they don't make money right away stick with it. Don't give up either make adjustments too those sites or determine if you may have made a mistake in evaluating them and learn from what you did both WRONG and RIGHT and then apply that to your next site.

    Think about it like this at this time I have over 80 websites. So think of it like this all I have to do as a the owner of these sites is to get each of my sites to turn just an of just 50 cents to 1 Dollar a day and I as the owner of these sites will be able to bring in $40 to $80 a day.

    Seriously it isn't that hard and it is certainly not impossible to get each site to average $17 or more a day. If you stick with both either Bring the Fresh or Extreme Niche Empires BECAUSE THEY WILL BOTH SHOW YOU A PROVEN WAY TO MAKE MONEY ONLINE you can easily build a site that both ranks for a good keyword and is making sales within 1 to 3 months.

    Then you take invest in setting up other sites and before you know it you making a living or at least a part time income online.

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    • Profile picture of the author tntebook
      After reading all the comments I went with BTF, and its really good! The guys just give me the feeling they really are trying to help! I've bought many WSO's over the last couple years, but hopefully I won't need many more in the future!
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  • Profile picture of the author xxdksxx
    Is anyone making an income from what they learned at BTF? Just wondering cause I have already spent a ton online for products like these as many others have im sure but I don't wanna invest in another one of those products. Which it seems as though this isn't like the other products out there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam X
      Originally Posted by xxdksxx View Post

      Is anyone making an income from what they learned at BTF? Just wondering cause I have already spent a ton online for products like these as many others have im sure but I don't wanna invest in another one of those products. Which it seems as though this isn't like the other products out there.
      Its very good stuff, as long as you're ready to put the information into action. You already purchased a ton of these online products? BTF is all about practical applications and all done before your eyes.Many new ideas and concepts are discussed, but only you can decide if its right for you. The way the material is presented is one major reason why I do find BTF much better than most other programs and perhaps why many do give it a top rating.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Hey CK, so Full Disclosure is worth the 67$/month for 6 months? I have the basic and I'm not even through all the interview vids there yet. But what is different in FD? I too am enjoying working on my sites with ENE. Sean is SO clear in explanation.
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    • Profile picture of the author CK Trust
      Totally mate... It's a whole other level... I don't know what details can be revealed about FD content, but basically you get detailed advanced methods, more over the shoulder training, insight to some of their highly successful businesses, strategies and campaingns, products etc... Plus access to the FD-Rooms on the forums that are of tremendous value alone.

      Seriously. Right now I'm really dissapointed with Sean. Even though ENE is very good, I'm considering a refund... Tonite I've been tricked to stay up till the morning hours for a super lame and disturbing COMMISSION SIPHON webinar. He made the bold promise, that he payed thousands of dollars (course bruv, these thousands of dollars will only be the affiliate commissions)) to this underground superaffiliate guy to teach his super precious "insider's only" elite members (mate, you must be mad trying to feed me this) how they will be banking over $1000 a day using this rather simple (yet ingenious) technique by tomorrow for free. Which turned out to be the COMMISSION SIPHON Product for only $ 997... Hahaha.... Complete with most disgusting scarcity claims of only 15 people that can get in because this very private underground superaffiliate wants to keep it for his grandma, who is able to use ms word and therefor makes $4.000 a day with it (no joke). Oh, and did I say... No refund possible btw...

      I guess he need money if he must resort to promote this excuse of a webinar. BS with this guy simon talking nonstop nonsense about his "professional looking" eye cancer, paint by numbers websites his grandma. Including his massive blog comment only traffic system. I've got some **** products promoted to me by marketers that I used to respect, but this approach trying to kid his members is truly epic. I don't like it to pay someone who turns around, trying to sell me something suspect like this two weeks after I joined his course. Huge dissapointment. There's lot's of other good stuff out there and BTF is the only thing I need right now anyways...

      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Hey CK, so Full Disclosure is worth the 67$/month for 6 months? I have the basic and I'm not even through all the interview vids there yet. But what is different in FD? I too am enjoying working on my sites with ENE. Sean is SO clear in explanation.
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      • Profile picture of the author seankaye
        I don't do webinar's with "unnamed, underground guests" anymore for that very reason. My time is worth something to me. If you want me to turn up to your webinar, where I can bet my boots you're going to pitch me, then tell me who it is so that I can research them and work out if I want to be pitched.

        One of the annoying things about Video Marketing Goldmine (another Sean product) was that I ended up on a list of Anik Singal's getting pitched constantly with crappy email swipes.
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      • Profile picture of the author bjking
        Originally Posted by CK Trust View Post

        Totally mate... It's a whole other level... I don't know what details can be revealed about FD content, but basically you get detailed advanced methods, more over the shoulder training, insight to some of their highly successful businesses, strategies and campaingns, products etc... Plus access to the FD-Rooms on the forums that are of tremendous value alone.

        Seriously. Right now I'm really dissapointed with Sean. Even though ENE is very good, I'm considering a refund... Tonite I've been tricked to stay up till the morning hours for a super lame and disturbing COMMISSION SIPHON webinar. He made the bold promise, that he payed thousands of dollars (course bruv, these thousands of dollars will only be the affiliate commissions)) to this underground superaffiliate guy to teach his super precious "insider's only" elite members (mate, you must be mad trying to feed me this) how they will be banking over $1000 a day using this rather simple (yet ingenious) technique by tomorrow for free. Which turned out to be the COMMISSION SIPHON Product for only $ 997... Hahaha.... Complete with most disgusting scarcity claims of only 15 people that can get in because this very private underground superaffiliate wants to keep it for his grandma, who is able to use ms word and therefor makes $4.000 a day with it (no joke). Oh, and did I say... No refund possible btw...

        I guess he need money if he must resort to promote this excuse of a webinar. BS with this guy simon talking nonstop nonsense about his "professional looking" eye cancer, paint by numbers websites his grandma. Including his massive blog comment only traffic system. I've got some **** products promoted to me by marketers that I used to respect, but this approach trying to kid his members is truly epic. I don't like it to pay someone who turns around, trying to sell me something suspect like this two weeks after I joined his course. Huge dissapointment. There's lot's of other good stuff out there and BTF is the only thing I need right now anyways...
        Mate, i think you are going off message here. Commision Siphon is a course that Sean should not have promoted, however it does not detract from the fact that ENE is a superb course-one of the best in the IM industry.
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  • Profile picture of the author Focused Action
    I love Sean's products/training (Firestorm SEO, etc) - straight forward high quality training but then he turns around and promotes some really crappy products (the ones that get bashed here at the forum). The products he promotes are like the complete opposite of the training he provides!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author lifetimeprofits
    i totally agree with focused action sean is a great marketer but some of things he promotes goes away from what he teaches for example he says in ene not to by push button millionarie stuff because it doesnt work and turns around and promotes comission siphon and says it does work and he has made money with it. make up your mind
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    I'd recommend Fast Attack SEO.
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  • Is ENE still an active website or have the creator and first wave of subscribers moved on to the next thing? Have any of the people who got on board during its launch in spring '11 earned money?

    Nevermind. Already found an answer to my question.
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  • Profile picture of the author ColtForty5
    BTF is a great starting point for anyone looking to get into smaller niche based sites. Their online private forums alone are well worth the fee.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moondogge
    I have never seen ENE, but I have used BTF and it has a tremendous amount of info in. Very well suited for someone starting out or looking to change strategies.
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