Alternatives to Clickbank?

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Several of my buddies, mostly newbies are falling foul of Clickbank's rules regarding credit cards and 'dormant accounts'.

One guy has made over $4000 on one account over 2 years:

1. He does not have the required number of different credit cards to get his money (mostly Paypal), and
2. With sales a bit slow, Clickbank is taking money out of his account under their "dormant account" rule.

I am about to release 3 products, but I'd like to see the money!!!

I'd love some suggetions of where I can deposit my products other than CB, and cost comparisons.

Any other opinions welcome too. This is a crucial point in my business plan.
#alternatives #clickbank #dormant account rule
  • Profile picture of the author ChrisAlta
    Ah man sounds like some tough biz!

    I was actually just referred to this website, basically like clickbank except there's no payout threshold. You make a sale for $20 it goes straight to your paypal account. No waiting for payouts, it's slowly growing. I'd definitely keep an eye on it

    RAP Bank*Instant Commissions Vault

    hope this helps! Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      Originally Posted by ChrisAlta View Post

      Ah man sounds like some tough biz!

      I was actually just referred to this website, basically like clickbank except there's no payout threshold. You make a sale for $20 it goes straight to your paypal account. No waiting for payouts, it's slowly growing. I'd definitely keep an eye on it

      RAP Bank*Instant Commissions Vault

      hope this helps! Cheers!
      Thanks buddy. Connected with RAP via your link.
      Took a look - liked the menu - joined up straight away.
      Hope you get some dosh from this, much appreciated.

      I'll test for a couple of months. If I'm still happy, I'll send to my lists.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisAlta
    oh yeah that's not an affiliate link, I have no idea why but the anchor text turned from the url to that nice little promotion of their website haha. Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author Cam Connor
      CJ is definitely a pretty good alternative to CB... but I've never had a problem with CB, though, it's good to diversify a bit.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
        Originally Posted by Cam Connor View Post

        CJ is definitely a pretty good alternative to CB... but I've never had a problem with CB, though, it's good to diversify a bit.
        Huh?

        What is CJ?
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  • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
    Why not go with 2checkout as your payment provider?

    they are awesome and not much of the issues you face
    with other systems..

    --David
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  • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
    CJ is commission junction
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  • Profile picture of the author butcher57
    Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood View Post


    I am about to release 3 products, but I'd like to see the money!!!

    I'd love some suggetions of where I can deposit my products other than CB, and cost comparisons.

    Any other opinions welcome too. This is a crucial point in my business plan.
    Hi Alan, did you check my new website? I'm not going to post the link here because I don't want to spam, you can easily find it with Google or just click on my signature.
    We use paypal at the moment and we have not fees to add products, you can have your free vendor account today if you want, we only take a commission when you have a purchase, no one single cent more
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  • Profile picture of the author Yadira Barbosa
    You got several options, just check it put and try the system fits your necessities:

    Nanacast
    eJunkie
    Plimus
    RAP & RAP Bank
    InfusionSoft
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      Originally Posted by Yadira Barbosa View Post

      You got several options, just check it put and try the system fits your necessities:

      Nanacast
      eJunkie
      Plimus
      RAP & RAP Bank
      InfusionSoft
      Thanks Adira. A very helpful reply. I will research each of them. You've given me some good reference.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shazia Mirza
    RAPBank is a nice alternative.

    Plimus is also another alternative, and it seems to be a relatively good one at that

    More and more people are using Plimus.
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  • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
    I don't think that clickbank bother with the dormant account rule too much and if you haven't experienced an affiliate sale through them in 90 days then, it's time to promote different products.

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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      Originally Posted by shmeeko69 View Post

      I don't think that clickbank bother with the dormant account rule too much and if you haven't experienced an affiliate sale through them in 90 days then, it's time to promote different products.

      Mark
      Did you write this just to get in a quick post?

      Take a mooch around and you will find loads of people being robbed of their income - LOADS!

      My friend has several accounts and this has happened on those that (particularly in one case), are mostly getting payments by PayPal. This account actually has over $8400 locked in. He can't get his money because there aren't enough 'qualifying' credit cards.

      You shouldn't have to need to swtch products or services because your bank has greedy, selfish rules. You should be able to move on to more products and continue to let the old ones earn some money.

      Or do you want to write a letter to Clickbank saying, "Please Mr Clickbank, may I possibly get any money I've earned, even if it's only little, and from whatever source?"

      Your post was totally unhelpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      You'd beter take another look then pal.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      Originally Posted by AndrewZapp View Post

      I agree 100% with shmeeko69. I haven't seen them enforce it.
      This is a naff post.

      You obviously didn't even look.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    We'd love to see you over at DigiResults.

    Best of all you get paid directly to your PayPal account so no issues like this one with Clickbank.

    Let me know if you've got any specific questions.

    Cheers,

    Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author rts2271
      Originally Posted by Andy Fletcher View Post

      We'd love to see you over at DigiResults.

      Best of all you get paid directly to your PayPal account so no issues like this one with Clickbank.

      Let me know if you've got any specific questions.

      Cheers,

      Andy
      Very interesting Andy going to check this out tonight.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    I always use Payspree.Instant commissions payed direct to Paypal. Very inexpensive, very easy to use and manage, cool features and great support.

    Check it out
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    CJ and Plimus are okay CB alternatives, depending on the type of product.
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  • Profile picture of the author brandony
    Hey Alan,
    You know...Clickbank has it's advantages...but it has a lot of disadvantages also. I know for many...it's a cost thing for wanting to have a mechanism to have affiliates promote on the cheap...and receipt of instant commissions, etc.
    But, overall, I feel one is probably better off hooking up into nanacast, or another shopping cart to handle affiliate stuff.
    Not saying you can't do great on clickbank. I'm just saying everything has pluses and minuses, and it's a tough choice sometimes.
    Regards,
    Brandon
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  • Profile picture of the author asimbawany
    Ive heard some very good things about Nanacast and Im going to be launching my 1st ever service on 2CO soon... 2CO is very good...
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  • Profile picture of the author gefflong
    I'm not being a smartass or anything, just have an honest question...

    What would he be selling that would bring in $4800, but not get 5 different credit cards? I suppose it could be something VERY high priced. Just curious. It's odd to see an amount that high and not have 5 different credit cards.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Ashwood
      Originally Posted by gefflong View Post

      I'm not being a smartass or anything, just have an honest question...

      What would he be selling that would bring in $4800, but not get 5 different credit cards? I suppose it could be something VERY high priced. Just curious. It's odd to see an amount that high and not have 5 different credit cards.

      I checked with him.

      It's a mixture of $97 - $47 sales across just under 300 sales. Allowing for 26 refunds, that's about 271 sales total.

      Payments? Matercard 0, VISA 64, PayPal 207.

      Paypal doesn't count, and with no MC sales the VISA only sales do not qualify for the ruling.

      I think you're missing the point though. You've sold a product, even one; you've been 'paid', you should get YOUR money.

      Some of this money is over a year old, and as sales are gradually slowing down, if they stop.

      Clickbank treats it as a 'dormant account', and starts helping itself to your money!

      Anyone agree, or is it just me being picky, and wanting my "bank' to let me withdraw my hard earned cash? :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Vanessa Reece
        Alan,

        I really appreciate you starting this thread. I'm also looking for an affiliate solution and CB (after being with them as an affiliate and seeing my money still sitting there) doesn't impress me really. I don't actually sell a lot via them because it seems such a hassle.

        I want to make it as painless and easy as possible for my affiliates to get their money and I agree, if affiliates take the time to promote the products and sell them they shouldn't have to put up with the restrictions that the likes of CB has.

        And I really don't get their stance on the way people pay because obviously no other affiliate payment process seems to have this issue.

        I've also seen debits on my CB account - they are tiny but still. :confused:

        Apart from the mass exposure of a product I'm not quite sure what the benefit is to being a vendor with CB? Maybe I'm missing something. I'm just thinking of my future affiliates. Cuz it's no fun waiting to be paid.

        Anyway cheers Alan. I'm looking at the options that people have presented to you here.

        V
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
        I'm not trying to come in here to pick a fight, but something just doesn't seem right with this.

        Here is Clickbank's official customer distribution requirement, which is what is allegedly causing the withholding of payments (this is straight from Clickbank's website here - https://www.clickbank.com/accounting.html#A15):

        ClickBank will withhold payment of any account balance until the following criteria is met:
        • Sales made with 5 or more different credit card numbers; and,
        • Sales made with two different payment methods (either Visa, MasterCard, PayPal or European Direct Debit(ELV)). Note: PayPal purchases do not count toward the minimum 5 different credit card numbers.
        So something isn't adding up. Either this person has raised their payment threshold from the $100 default, or these numbers aren't accurate.

        With over 300 PayPal and Visa transactions, there is mathematically no way that they can't come from 5 or less different credit card numbers. It's just not possible.

        Like I said, I am not intending to pick a fight here, but something just doesn't make sense.



        Originally Posted by Alan Ashwood View Post

        I checked with him.

        It's a mixture of $97 - $47 sales across just under 300 sales. Allowing for 26 refunds, that's about 271 sales total.

        Payments? Matercard 0, VISA 64, PayPal 207.

        Paypal doesn't count, and with no MC sales the VISA only sales do not qualify for the ruling.

        I think you're missing the point though. You've sold a product, even one; you've been 'paid', you should get YOUR money.

        Some of this money is over a year old, and as sales are gradually slowing down, if they stop.

        Clickbank treats it as a 'dormant account', and starts helping itself to your money!

        Anyone agree, or is it just me being picky, and wanting my "bank' to let me withdraw my hard earned cash? :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Alan,

    Choosing an affiliate network really depends on what
    your objectives are.

    If you want to get the widest possible exposure to a
    large group of affiliates then Clickbank may be the
    best choice for you. However, to be really successful
    with Clickbank you need to invest in actively recruiting
    affiliates rather than waiting for them to come to you.

    If getting immediate access to your cash and paying your
    affiliates with the minimum amount of fuss, then your best
    bet is Andy Fletcher's DigiResults closely followed by an
    investment in the RAP script plus submitting your products
    to RAP Bank.

    Josh Anderson's Nanacast is another good choice if you need
    extended functionality such as member management.

    As in all things, it's critical that you take the time to write
    a specification and then find a solution that most closely
    matches your specific needs.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    I will refer you to Josh Anderson's excellent technique regarding the use of Clickbank.

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  • Profile picture of the author lifetimeprofits
    yeah josh anderson is good
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    if your a clickbank affiliate here is something to get you ahead of the rest and its free http://www.cbsurge.com/download/cb-surge-for-free

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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
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    Daniel is quite right. There has been a serious misrepresentation of Clickbank's policy in this thread. Clickbank requires payments from five different credit CARDS, not TYPES of card.

    All I can do is to apologise to Clickbank for this error.

    Pearson Brown
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