Better than Video Boss?

Never heard of Video Slayer but Web Video University is good.

just go to fiverr and look around, you can find kickass videos that you can customize to meet your product/website needs. or Idealogymarketing Video Creation | Use The Power Of Video Marketing

Byan & Jeremy

Not sure if this may have been seen here before but does explain as to why the price is so high , this is openly found on the net via Youtube

Jason

OMG...that video was Disturbing!

I believe the time is coming when people like those in this video will be behind bars and their face and stories will be all over news programs like 60 Minutes and Primetime.

I think on Video Boss launch day, marketers should email their lists that video instead of a recomendation or an affiliate link to video boss.

Unbelievable!!!

PS: Is Video Slayer available yet? Looks awesome

For me, I'll outsource the video creation.

I see the video has now disappeared but glad I managed to watch it a few hours ago.

Certainly does open your eyes to how people price their products.

Tony

I saw that salty droid video a few weeks ago. I hate to admit it....it didn't suprise me one bit.

I'd never heard of it before it was posted here.

Now looks like it's been removed from everywhere, can't find it at all.

Tony

Marketing is not about who is cheaper, it's about perceived value. Those that are able to convey the value of their product better than another will ALWAYS get more sales and generate more revenue. Not everyone thinks of value in terms of who is cheaper. Many people believe that you get what you pay for so they believe that if something costs more they are getting more for it. It's their belief so people will continue to buy these higher priced products. How many of you would sell your ebook for $10 when you know that you could sell MORE if it costs $20? It's perceived value. Real businesses test the cost point of their product and I'm sure Andy has done that too.

You can complain about it all you want but this is a very good example of how some people are able to do a better job of telling people about the value of their product. They are simply getting you to feel emotional about their product and doing a good job of it! Emotion is the reason behind buying something. Think of what emotions you felt while watching his videos. How can you convey these emotions to your customers.

Learn from what Andy is doing. He is confident about his product, he conveys a sense of confidence about what he is selling and people believe it! He is a successful business owner and this is what successful business people do! Don't hate it, learn from it so you can grow your own business!

Here is another link to the video so that way you can make an informed decision on what has been said.
There has been a lot discussion around the net on how this was edited bo I guess you amke your own mind up if true its a sad way to do business.

Jason

Anyone know if they plan to announce what exactly has changed in Video Boss to make it "Bossier?"

So far its the same content / launch stuff from Video Boss 1...unless they are just relaunching the same course again and calling it Bossier?

I'm not buying it, promoting nor have i even seen the course. But i have watched the pre-launch videos and he has clearly stated you don't need fancy equipment at all, and you can use the video boss formula for selling stuff for just about anything.
So you can use it for affiliate stuff or your own stuff.

I drank the Kool Aid and bought Product Launch Formula. Jeff definitely over delivers, which is a sales technique, but was it worth the 2400 I paid (payment plan)? I haven't given it the best effort yet, but I know it has a boatload of stuff it in. It's definitely kept me form jumping into other big name products. Well, thats not entirely true, that and the WF have kept me out. I've spent about one payment worth of PLF on WSO and other stuff here and have learned a ton.

If I had found the Droid before I bought PLF I would have passed on it. The stuff that he has on these guys is enlightening for sure. That talk between Jenkins and Walker (and he has another one about the new rollout on the site) makes you realize what they are all about.

What I don't like is despite Walker making a few million off the launch, he still included affiliate links in his resources. Sorry, I think thats a little slimey. I just paid you 2400 bucks and now you want to make my Aweber and merchant account money too? How about offering Aweber for minus your affiliate deal for the first year? I'm not anti affiliate marketing, but if you paid me 2400 bucks, Id give you any thing I had an affiliate or white label deal on for my cost. Does anyone agree with this, or am I really off base?

Like I said, I can't judge the content of PLF harshly just yet and they did set up a mastermind that looks promising, but I was disgusted after listening to the droid.

Jenkin's video stuff looks great, but I have enough trouble figuring out whether to buy the Profits or Optimize press theme and how hard it will be to use. Ill pass for now but will look into video slayer if its affordable.

Mike

Walker white labels or whatever he does with a merchant account, so he probably can work his way around some deals bringing all that moolah in.

that being said, i was shocked to hear 30% myself

Like I said I think the product has potential just didnt like the affiliate links, that was a quick turn off for me

Well I just got Andy's last video boss video. Or at least he said it's the last one for the launch. It has a $2000 price tag or $388 per month for 6 months.

If Video Slayer is similar to Video Boss with regards to content I'm sure he'll do well since he's talking about a much lower price tag. Still I think Andy will do well on his launch. He is very good at creating a "I gotta have it" emotion in people. Maybe the 30% refund rate others talked about earlier suddenly becomes buyers remorse after they see it.

Disclaimer: I don't know Andy, Jeff, or any of these other guys, nor have I bought their products. I have watched their launch videos though.

I don't see what the big hang-up over Jeff telling Andy to charge $2000 for the product is? It's clear that Jeff is mentoring Andy and feels that his product brings a lot of value, so he recommends he raise his price. Simple business: charge for the value you bring, not the time you spend. If I pay $2000 for video boss and it makes me $20k, did Andy rip me off?

Yeah, the false-scarcity tactics are questionable, but it's a fact in this business -- just look anywhere. For folks on this forum to get upset by that is quite often a case of the pot calling the kettle black (although I admit to having been a bit peeved by it myself, or at least the perception thereof).

Don't forget, Andy is a real seasoned Hollywood professional who actually went to film school (or so he says). This isn't some teenager who read a book on video production. If he teaches you how to make the kinds of videos he makes, how can it not be worth it? Even if someone else is selling a video production course for 1/10th the price, how do you know the quality is the same? And even then, see my statement about the value added above. I'd say Andy's credentials in the business would indicate that he knows about making videos that make you money.

Now again, I don't know these guys and am certainly not defending any of them, but please don't think that just because someone charges a high price for something means that it is a scam. You need to look at the value added to see if it's worth it or not. If it's not worth it, the laws of supply and demand will take care of that in short order (besides, most of these products have a 100% money-back guarantee). If you think it's too expensive for you, don't buy it! A BMW M5 is expensive too, but I still see people choosing them over a Camry and being happy with that decision.

And speaking of refunds, I'm not sure why a merchant account would care about vendor-originated refunds as long as people are not doing chargebacks. If he is willingly refunding money I'm not sure why they'd care, especially if he works with a company that's used to this industry. Then again, I don't have any experience with anywhere close to that large of a refund rate!

Jeremy & Allaboutaction

I think Bryan has the video slayer course ! I may be wrong there but I am sure he will correct me on that one

Andy has I think become a victim of his own success with VB course, what I mean is that there are now a lot more people myself included that do videos after all there are 3 warriors who make a good living out of doing just that for people who need to know how the what and the why.

And now that fiverr has come along , do you really need to pay out big bucks for something in most cases you can get done for under $100, I am looking forward to the Vidoe Slayer course and see whats new! but untill it is on the market and VBII is in pre launch stage will it be any good or just the same with maybe 2-3 extra videos guess we have to wait and see.

Jason

Hey Jeremy - I did buy Video Boss the first time around. It was expensive and thankfully I could make payments. But I learned how to create videos (I am into "just-in-time learning) and created a new membership program using the videos to promote the site and then I created video lessons.

The result is that I recruited 250 members at $90 each. That more than paid for my Video Boss lessons. I am now rolling the program into a continuity model and charging my new 500 members $30 a month.

Video Boss was an excellent investment for me. Since my audience is not IMers, I am not an affiliate. But I am a very happy buyer.

I hope all is well with you! It's been a while since we connected.

lol I saw that video on salty droids blog last year, pretty eye opening to say the least.

Anyone that defends most of what is said is kidding themselves.

They have zero intention of helping newbies, they provide just enough info to keep you wanting more and not enough to allow you to become confident enough to see them for what they are.

I actually think the videos Andy shows and creates are pretty sweet to be honest... same with Video Slayer. But that last video Andy dropped he said took him 4 days.

I dunno about everyone else... but I am not looking to build videos that take 4 days even for sales pages. I am sure there are many that do want to do that. Especially for businesses, etc... But I am not in the business of selling videos I create. I sell my own products, affiliate products, CPA marketing, handle offline clients, Software, etc...

I think the average person that isn't selling their video skills... wants the same thing I want.

1) Videos that don't look like the typical YouTube junk
2) Have the potential of going viral
3) Sales videos that evoke emotion
4) Are quick to produce, and get out there
5) Does some branding

While typically I outsource... There are times when I want to create a video myself for certain things. Then I get exactly what I wanted...

So I don't plan on making videos all day long. Will still outsource most of it. On the occasion that I want one specifically a certain way, I will make one.

I think that is the audience that Video Slayer will dominate.

Where Video Boss won't...

But for people that want production quality, TV/Hollywood style green screen, and want to sell videos etc... Video Boss may be their choice.

It just depends on how much time you want to commit to just the video production end of things versus selling... Where I am putting out things all the time all over the net.. Content everywhere. Like a lot of affiliate/CPA marketers and product creators.

I did just buy a blue microphone yeti mic... and it is pretty sweet!

The launch of the Video Boss looks slick but the price tag is high.

Definitely interested in seeing some of the videos produced from past Video Boss students to see what they managed to produce.

I thought they could have been featured as testimonials for the relaunch.

nyc thread..and nyc info!!!

I just checked out the Video Slayer squeezepage and I want to comment on who has the best produced video - Bertram or Andy. As these courses both promise to teach you video mastery, this is a pretty fair indicator of the quality of the training you will get and the quality of the results you could be expected to get by following their respective courses.

Comparing Bertram's Video to one of Andy's (and removing the 'personality' factor) Andy's are far better produced. Betram made a couple of very obvious errors - He neglected to use exit animation for his text and graphics giving the transitions a 'jerky' and 'abrupt' feel. He also seems to have used Camtasia's awful in-built audio leveling which always makes it sound like you are talking through a flanger, however good a mic you have. The narration was not chopped as well as Andy's and scripting was better on Andy's work too.

But does this matter?

Maybe not.

You can pay $2k for what amounts to a full education in the field of video marketing. Or you can pay less (still don't know how much less) and still get a way of making some videos which may well be 100% better than most people can make right now.

The cheaper alternative is to go to Bill Myers Online and buy his video tutorials on DVDs (price range from $29 - $97 for a combo pack) and if you join his membership site ($9/m) you get tons of additional help on speaking video and screen-capture video production via his extraordinarily helpful forum where Bill, himself, answers your questions. So you stay up-to-date with additional video demos that he produces (almost by the minute) to help his members.

Been a member for three years and have bought every product of his which are plain brilliant!

Andy's sales presentations are slick, professional and a real hoot to watch (I love his humour and style) but at $2000, isn't one buying into using a sledgehammer to crack a nut? Most of the videos on YouTube that have huge viewing (six figures or more) and which attract major advertisers to appear on them are those often created by total amateurs who use simple techniques and relatively inexpensive tools.

- okay, he may have a film making background but I bet he didn't use expensive tools. He's raking it in with ads from major players.

- eight figure views - filming outsourced!

Does anyone know how you still buy the video boss? I never knew it relaunched, and missed it.

interesting thread right here , i never find better than the video boss but it's my opinion