Chronic Commissions

you mean - 25 emails and 1/2 of them you have no idea who they are? LOL

i'm watching now.. laughing.. LOL

Interesting...

OOH i love catching errors in their script. He said he grew up on a commune in Berkley, but then he said he's just like any other guy from so-cal... lol (Berkley is in Northern California) - this video is........entertaining to say the least, man.

question is, why are Adam and Tim of Local Mobile Monopoly promoting it, with Tim even shooting a video to convince us that this is worth getting?

Weird, I just got another email about another totally different product also titled "Chronic..." - back when I worked in a mental hospital that wasn't a word used to sell something, that's for sure!

There are actually two offers that came out today- that I've been reviewing..

Chronic Commissions & Commission Black OPS- don't get them confused..

one's a hippy and the others a ex-war veteran.

I'm actually reviewing Chronic Commissions right now, so hang tight for a review

Okay- Chronic Commissions..

So I've taken a look inside the members area ( I was given access from the creators, as I do review the offers I mail to my mailing list).

I'm not quite sure, which "package" or upsells etc I received but here's the just of the program I have my hands on. But I beleive from the looks, I have the BASE package, which is perfect.

This setup is VERY newbie friendly. A video for each sections, super easy to understand, a little low on volume, but it's okay- turn up your speakers!

Essentially, it does not require the user to have a domain or hosting. the software is WEB BASED.

You enter in a few pieces of information.
- Clickbank ID - for your affiliate links
- Paypal ID - if you decide to get paid per lead
- Aweber Optin Code - read below

The reason for the paypal ID/Aweber Optin is this- you have a choice- the creators will pay you per lead if you like OR you can use your own Aweber code to collect leads (I would of course collect leads!)

Once you fill out those simple steps.. you're ready to set up your campaigns (that first step took me 2 mins max)

Okay- next we are ready to setup campaigns- You have 5 highly converting IM offers displayed in which you simply type in your own "Tracking ID" (whatever you want) and decide if you want it go to the squeeze page or sales letter.

Once you select the one, it takes you to a page that shows your affiliate ID with tracking built in- so it's masked and custom to you.

You're displayed email swipes as well at that point.

I tried the squeeze page first and it took me to my very own squeeze page. And it appears to be a strong one - as I certainly approve of it. It offers an exit splash in which it takes you directly to the sales offer.

The sales offer one does just that- takes you to the sales offer.

Of course both embed your clickbank affiliate ID into it so you get the credit.

Now- Traffic section is actually REALLY neat. I've been wanting to do this for some time, just haven't gotten around to it. Anyways- here is what it is.

A very comprehensive solo ad directory of about 20 people. Each showing you their tested results, the list size, costs per xxx clicks. ETC.

The rest of that section is pretty self explaining- really neat part. That alone is worth the cost of the program in my opinion. A nice directory- I think ezine was selling this for $197 bucks or something.

And the last important section was tracking- nice tracking interface, showing your campaign, your raw clicks, unique clicks, optins and description. Also it displays your traffic stats as well in a easy to view summary of each offer.

Also to the left side are the "bonuses".

These are:

Bonus Campaigns- 5 high converting squeeze pages that give away a ebook/report.
Bonus Downloads seems to be the same thing?

And the last is a bonus Personalized coaching- no idea what that is yet - as it's not till 10 days from now!

So here's my final review- to me, it's worth the money. Sure you can do everything yourself.. and that's great. But for a newbie or someone who likes to save time, this software is a easy to use yet very informational tool!

If anyone has any questions, I can try to answer them

edit: Upsells are as follow

36 MORE campaigns - pretty cool if set up like the other 10

And an 8 week coaching session with the creators.

Both valuable upsells in one way or another.

Thanks Anik - can you give a link to a page you built or squeeze page? Did you get any of this on video by chance?

Thanks again!

I didn't do a video, but here's a few examples:

Make 5-Figures Online

Instant Passive Profits - 60 Minutes To Money?

Commission System

(now guys these DO have affiliate links BUT i wanted to show them just for examples- so Mod's don't get mad!)

Hey Anik,

As always thanks for another great review. Jeff, I always look forward to your reviews too. I got an email about this product too.
Anik, On a side note. Did you get my Pm's on that other product?

Rhino.

I still don't understand WHAT it is? Is it a traffic system? A squeeze page generator? A tracking site? All of the above?

"Push 5 buttons", and WHAT happens?

Anik, I'm a tad taken by your enthusiasm for this one, it's similar to 2,348,201+ scam "push button make money" products that have come out in the last 6 months that are all crap... borderline scams.

What dos this DO?

HOW does this work?

Z

Does it make any money? Anik, you should have some results by now. Going to give us a report? Like ZNICK says, I think it just has that "scam aura" hanging all over it.

I believe that is "Michael Jones" in the audio. So what's that tell ya?

Here's a video where he claims to be Ken Walker and he admits to being behind some of the scam launches of the past. Claimed he was done with them...


Sounds like the same guy to me.

Anik, how much does it cost to use the 'super duper secret traffic system' and email the lists of the 20 people available? And who's to say that the 1,000 plus people who buy this program wont' saturate those lists to the point of extinction.

The product was sold by a guy with $12.00 in his bank account - point being - you can have no money and still make this work. Without traffic, without PAYING people to email their lists and send their traffic to your site - this product is useless. There was no mention of having to pay for traffic in the sales video, and it was very much written to sound like a homeless guy could do it even with just $12.00 to his name.

I can see this being a decent product - BUT with the way it was sold - I can also seeing the refund rate being rather high.

If they were HONEST about what it was, and told people the TRUTH - i'd be ok with that - but the only reason 99% of people ARE buying it is because of the lies on the sales page. You and I both know it.

Rouge Hackers? lol ... someone needs an editor to proof read their powerpoint slides...

Thanks for the review Anik.
But like any other review of a product that claims it will make you money in 24 hours or just like the video where he only has $12 in the bank then just like magic has thousands
there are lots of reviews of different products, but I have yet to see one where the reviewer not only praises the product but says they actually made money in 24 hours as claimed with proof

are people here really THAT naive?

if this is what sells in IM... i'm in the wrong market.

Like i say in my earlier post, i bought this product and i will do a review on this product soon because i thought the sales page is kinda cool.

Well the product is essential this :

It a 2 parts process.

1st Part
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They create on your behalf really cool squeeze page for 6 click banks products and they also crafted nice and well thought out promotional email campaigns through aweber for you.

2nd Part
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Email Your Campaign


What you get
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-6 click banks campaign / product to choose from ( you can promote all if you like )

- promotional emails for each campaign / product

- tools to track your campaign

The process is easy and painless,

with a few clicks you can get your click bank id in all the campaign and promotional emails set up.

Traffic
=========

This is where money making is suppose to happen.

If you already have a huge list to sent your emails great. If you don't
they provide you with about 20 person who for a fee, they will sent your email thorough them.

I am not sure what the going rate for using other people list.

But the min price is $150 for 500 clicks and $300 for 1000 clicks

and the range differs from different promoters.

So with the promotional email list you created, you contact these 20 person of your choice through skype, and give them money so they can email your promotion out.

Tracking
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Since you already embedded your affiliate id and your aweber code in your email list. They have a nice interface letting you know how many click and how many conversion you have made. That is all.

Conclusion
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I am a newbie in IM, so i do not have a list yet. Plus I got a impression that I do not need to spend more money to get more money. And I do not have that kind of cash to test this out. It could work, or it could bomb. This system could also give you a huge list if the promoters are well like by their members.

If you do not have spare cash to try or do not have a huge list, do not even bother.

The product is good, too much hype but good. Not for me at this point. When i have a huge list, or need a huge list or have the spare cash, i would come back to to this product to test it.

Well i already begun the refund process. So if you need more info, just post a question and i can answer them if you like.

Well Anik, I am in your list, and your list has always been on the hypey side to me. So i am looking forward that this time if you sent your list, you can be honest about this product. Because i feel that this product is misleading in so many ways that you do not need to spend a dime and a homeless guy can do it.

In actual fact, you need to chalk up even more money to get result.

LMAO- I just received the first of which I am sure will be multiple emails, from Anik promoting this crap. I knew that was coming.

Things must be rough in guruland if he is in here trying to feed his funnel...

Personally I think that this is a very good product that will be especially helpful too internet marketing newbies especially those that don't have a website etc. I really liked the product obviously there are going to be several in the Warrior crowd that are not going to need this product whatsoever unless they are just trying to easily set up some easy squeeze pages etc.

I think sometimes Warriors including myself at times forget that not everyone is an experienced internet marketer and that products such as this one are very helpful to those new to internet marketing!

Tim

I got an email from Tony Sanders yesterday about this- I wonder if he's hurting for cash or something.

Lately I've had more people send me links for CB products than in the last few months- what gives?

Even if Anik likes this product, I think I'll keep my $50 for something else- that can get you several WSOs :-)

Anik- what you and so many other guru types so easily accept is that the program is being marketed with a lie. Do you believe the story in the sales letter for even a minute? I mean come on...

This has been the trend for quite a while now. The strippers, the tycoons getting on jets etc. It's all lies. I guess if they gave a disclosure right off the bat stating that the story was fictional and the people in the video were paid actors/announcers etc, it might be legal. But to portray these story lines as fact is out right fraud, yet you have no trouble standing behind it. It's amazing to me, it really is.

What's even more amazing is that they continue to get away with it. Eventually these idiots are going to get cracked down on. When that happens it will bring a whole new array of disclosure requirements into the mix, and that is going to make it more difficult for everybody.

If you are such a straight shooter, then it should be of concern to you that the sales letter isn't even close to meeting the disclosure requirements that are currently in effect. But, apparently you have no problem associating yourself with the product (and I use that term loosely) in spite of this fact.

If it was offered as squeeze page templates and a list of solo ad sources, of course it wouldn't sell like it probably will. So they feel the need to slap some fictional, bull**** story behind it to hype it up into something that it isn't. In fact, they won't even tell you what they are selling in the sales copy because they know if they did it wouldn't be nearly as successful.

In my mind if you are promoting something that you feel a need to make excuses for, then you are probably better off not promoting it to begin with. Just a thought...

To me it doesn't matter if the product is actually good. When I see this type of salesletter I am sometimes sick to my stomach and sometimes overcome with laughter. Just paragraph after paragraph of bull$hit. And the point has been hit already by a few people...these launches continue because of promises of reciprocal mailings coupled with the fact that fresh leads and newbs continue to buy, and the cycle continues and continues...

I know I'm new to IM and to this forum but I have to tell you that I am getting pretty tired of people criticizing a product that they HAVEN'T bought and therefore haven't used. I would be nice if we could have some reviews of the product from people who have actually used the product and therefore can speak from experience and we can then make an educated decision. I know there are lots of crap products out there, and I have bought several. But I also know that I can ask for my money back if it turns out to be a product that doesn’t live up to its advertising. So, besides Anik, is there anyone who has used this product and believes it’s worthwhile to buy?

Jeremy Kelsall,

I totally see where you are coming from when you say about the sales page matching up with the product but I think that you would have too agree that if someone were new too internet marketing and bought Chronic Commissions and then went and paid $1 for a Aweber trial, and then drive traffic by both Article Marketing, Social Media Marketing, and possibly with their solo ads etc. there is a good chance that they could easily start building a list of buyers and quite possibly make some affiliate sales too pay for their investment in the product.

The fact is there is never going to be a product that will make anyone thousands of dollars especially a software etc. that is going to be priced at $47, $37, etc.

But I really do believe that someone who gets this and doesn't want to set up a blog or get hosting could make several sales with this product! You and I are looking at it from different perspectives I think you are more focused on whether the product matches the sales page and I am more concerned whether or not it is worth the price they are charging and in this case I feel it is.

However, before I send my list too a sales page like Chronic Commissions I also let them know what the product consist of. I would hope that most people understand that you are not going to make THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS with just about any internet marketing product at least not in 23 days or something along those lines like most claim to do!


Tim

Tim

If 10,000 people buy this product and send JV offers and paid ads through 20 marketers with large lists, a lot of people on lists are going to be flooded with ads or a lot of those 10,000 will be disappointed. So I don't know the benefits to the purchaser, a $27 investment + hundreds more to enable potential a return. I don't like these blind promotions where you don't exactly know what you are going to get when you buy and have to rely on reviews, most of which are unfavourable before you can see if the product is of value to you...

Regarding lists of marketers, I have a list of 1,250 of the top marketers in the world, all contact and social media details not just emails, who I can call upon to review a product and promote it to their customer list. This list is growing every day. However, with them they prefer JV promotions and only go for products that are of good quality that will convert to their list. I pick a handful of those I know have promoted to a niche market that I am working in and offer them the opportunity, I don't just blanket promote across all 1,250 because that would annoy those being offered a tennis promotion if they are in a golf niche.

At least with such a large list of potential JV partners your product or service would get in front of a targeted list and that's like Christmas to any niche marketer.

Regards

James Harkin

How anyone can say that "the product should get you a few sales, so the "story" doesn't matter" needs to do some real soul searching...

The guy shows you 5-6 times a page showing $26,400 (ish) dollars that "this product made me in the last 30 days". Yeah... maybe the pre-launch to your buddies brought that in, but there's not a chance in hell "using" it will.

I have lost total respect for a few "gurus" I have held VERY highly before this thread.

Z

To be honest I feel most internet marketers at least your average internet marketer will most likely make more money with this product than they would with most others simple because your average IM does not or will not be willing too put in very much work or if any at all.

At least with Chronic Commissions it is very easy to use and because of it's simplicity, most newbie IM people will get more accomplished rather than getting discouraged by reading another ebook on how too setup a Wordpress site and then get it ranking etc.

If a newbie buys this and starts building a list with it they are going to be well on their way too making some good money in the internet marketing business.


Tim

I think my problem is not the product itself, as it seems decent, BUT the fact that the sales letter is a flat out LIE in order to sell the product. It's pretty much somebody selling me a Porsche and delivering a VW instead. Yes, it's going to work - but it's going to cost me A-LOT more money to get what was promised to me in the sales pitch.

So I read this whole thread and I just wanted to put in my 2 cents..

When will people realize.. a $27, $37, $47.. $77.. or even a $197 product WILL not make you rich overnight nor will it make you $92,214 in 30 days yadda yadda.

And even the $1500 dollar products or $5000 dollar products won't do it.

What they do is guide you, yes some or crapier than others, and the sales messages are quite.. unethical sometimes, but a collection of a few good cheaper products have made me a few bucks online..

But at the end of the day, it's all about the list in my opinion and finding a program that helps you build a list- even if it's solo ads is not bad in my opinion.

One thing I must say.. KUDOS to the copywriter on this product, wow does it hit ALL the triggers and, a great "story" and does a fantastic job in convincing you to buy!

With some of these late launches, I am thinking of going for the whole shebang. I mean seriously, the product, the upsells etc. And coming back with an honest-to-goodness review of just how much money I made.

I am a product owner in some extremely in-demand niches, so it can't be that hard.

In any case, stay tuned

Rik

Michael Cheney just put out an interesting video in regards to push button softwares it is Titled,

Hard Decisions: michaelcheney.com/harddecision/ (obviously no affiliate link)

Very interesting though!

Tim

CB will either be making some big changes soon or it will be going out of business. If Amazon can make big changes, If Google can make big changes, If the Warrior Forum can make big changes to protect their own interests then so can CB. They need to. No more money making softwares. No more products claiming to make you big money at the click of a button. The more BS stories pushing products. No more.

"Honest 5 clicks of your mouse" (quote from the video) - bottom line to me is the question: Would you show this to someone in your family as a way to make money? Really?

Angry? Not angry at all. Like so many others, I get sick of the fraud which is going to eventually make it very difficult for the rest of us.

It's also hard for me to understand how somebody can call it just a good story, when it is outright fraud. That is not copyrighting, marketing or story telling. That is fraud.

What don't you understand about that?

In my comment to you, I was joking dude...

Have to admit the video was at least entertaining. Story telling has always been the best way to sell, so that's nothing new. Sadly what we are getting now isn't just story telling, it's blatant lying.

The helpful thing about these promotions is the list of people you know to unsubscribe from or avoid in the future!

I am starting to understand why some of the "trusted" names in IM are promoting this product to their lists. Look at the stats from CB:

Chronic Commissions - Massive EPC's Up to $324 per customer!

Chronic Commissions just launched & in less than 12 hrs has already done over 6 figures Gross. Top Affiliates are seeing $2 - $4 EPC's Massive Jv Contest & Tools at: Chronic Comissions Mail Now this offer is Hot!
Avg $/sale

$51.46


Stats: Initial $/sale: $51.05 | Avg %/sale: 59.0% | Avg Rebill Total: $75.97 | Avg %/rebill: 60.0% | Grav: 257.01
Cat: E-business & E-marketing : General
With such high gravity I can see why Adam Short and others have chosen to promote it. That's one of the things Adam teaches others to look for when picking a product from ClickBank. High Gravity. If I remember something over 7 is good. This is at 257... which is very high.

What it means is there are a lot of people buying this. I can hardly believe that but what I think it shows is how desperate people are getting out there with unemployment rising, job security at an all time low in many countries, and the financial systems of whole countries now in crisis. Products like this are going to increase for sure (unfortunately) as people become more desperate. Even when the sales letters and videos are so over the top, blatantly untrue, and manipulative, people are still going to buy because of that desperation factor. They just become blind to all the flashing red lights and ignore common sense.

Does CB also show the number of refunds being made on any particular product? I'd love to see those stats too.

This seems like it could be a decent product, I'm just pissed the sales letter is so full of lies. I'm tempted to buy it just so I can test out their email lists for traffic to see what happens.

Anik obviously didnt' try that out, he just wanted to show his own list how much of an awesome product it is because he's 'seen the inside'. Has anybody ELSE bought it yet and sent out a blast to one of the lists they make available? (Basically, is anybody using it's full potential)?


Jeff

I was looking at this one, but why pay to promote (what I'm sure is) 6 of the sellers other products? (or his buddies)

My main niche is real estate investing anyway, lol... but I REALLY would prefer to make big money with affiliate products so I'm not as limited to where I can work/live.

Z

Alright, so now you guys have all tempted me. I'm going to pick this up either today or tomorrow and do a full on video review. I'll either purchase a blast for the squeeze page, or just test it with my own list.

Stay tuned, should hopefully have it done and up before friday night is over. : ) (Going to Vegas Saturday, so i've got no choice haha)

"I also know that a lot of the story in the sales letter is also fairly accurate, just told from a character mouthpiece."

Wow... I wasn't going to comment, but I can't help myself.

So, if told from a 'character mouthpiece' perspective - you only have to be somewhat accurate?

I get it now... that's where I've been going wrong all these years. I thought you had to tell the truth - regardless of the perspective.

I did not see any disclosures - was there something on the site that stated some of the 'sales pitch' was was B.S.? In like not true?

And before any 'defenders' jump on - I'm not the one who said it was not a totally true story - someone who stated they know the Marketers did.

And the part about the bank calling Caleb on the phone - offering him a half a mil credit line - to a guy who according to the story recently opened the bank account - had 12 bucks in it at most until he amassed $120K in a few weeks or a month - now they call him on the phone, ask him to come in and offer him half a mil line of credit.

Wow... clear to me now why we had that financial/banking system meltdown a few years back.

But... if you buy this and make 100K+ after 5 clicks of the mouse - forget that, being we know part of the story is made up - lets say you have to click 50 times and you only make $500 - please, I beg of you - contact me so I can buy it too.

Ugh, so this product is pretty cool so far and I was being quite the a-hole earlier without actually checking it out much. I'll admit, I'm still not a huge fan of the sales page style, but I"ve got to say - this thing makes some pretty kick arse squeeze pages.

I'm going to test one of the pages soon with my OWN list and see how many i can get on a new list with just one email blast. A poster above said they were converting at 45% from the opens, which is quite good. I have to admit, This is potentially quite cool! Stay tuned!

I guess some people like to be lie to, opps sorry my bad it call entertainment now right? to purchase a money making product. Some people do not like to be told up front what are they buying and just basically guess what behind the curtain. Or maybe that the "entertaiment value is so high" that the product must work.

I guess I see your point Dan, that some people just love to buy because of "high entertainment value" and do not care about quality because those people like you said want "entertaiment" and not result. So in your own opinion, "entertaiment" is more important than result?

Geez, i thought people who purchase $$$ making product care about result more than than they care about "entertaiment" or "hype". So by your definition, some people dont respond to "this is what you get" aka Honesty but they only respond to hype or in your opinion entertaiment?:confused:

Now let talk about target audience, are you talking about experience IM / full time marketers or people who are completely new to IM industry?:confused:

Wow, so base on the "entertaiment" on the Chronic Commisions sales page, the target audience is new to the IM industry. So to those who are new in the IM industry, you have deduce that this target audience prefer that the "this is what you get" style is not suitable for them, only the "hype" or "entartainment" can only get them to buy.

So 5 clicks to own your own island or push button software to make money is the way to sell to this "target" of audience right? Because "HYPE" and "Entertaiment" is the only way to get to them to buy :p

Let face it, there alot of people who are plain lazy, greedy and naive to a fault, does it mean that we should promise them with such outlandish lie effort to get a quick buck? Opps sorry, it not a lie, it "Entertainment". Sorry slips of the finger there

If that is so, why dont you jump in to the bandwagon instead of promoting this kind of "entertaiment" product. You can earn way more than promoting as affiliate. Or is there one in the making? I would love to see how many clicks before I can make money. Can you make it in 3?

"Entertaiment" Marketers gives this type of customer what they want right? "Entertainment" How bout result? How about at least knowing what your paying for? People do not want know what they are getting as long as they get "entertain"? Are you implying that? :confused:

So WSO style "this is what you get for" is for warrior only, and not to people who are new to IM, so people outside of warrior forum likes to be "entertain" or required "hype" to purchase anything is that right? :confused:

Well I dont know about you Dan, i like to know what I am purchasing and getting into before i make a purchase. It because of clickbank refund policy, i dont mind once it awhile to check out a product, if i dont like it, i know i can get a refund.

The IM niche is very strange, most product is only reveal after your paying for it in clickbank. Why is that? :confused: Oh yeah Dan like you say, people required "Entertainment" and "Hype" to buy. They do not need to know what the actual product does, because "Entertaiment" and "Hype" is all they need right? The bigger the "Entertaiment" and "Hype", the more "Trust Worthy" the product. Is that what your implying?:confused:

Well, I believe in creating trust. There are many was to create hype, look at some of the WSO here, all are hype into a certain degree but at least they are honest and inform user what they are actually buying into.

And still product owners are making a killing and build a strong base of loyal customer.

Wow, i could not believe you say that. What does "fairly accurate" mean to you? Exaggeration to the point of ridiculous is also "fairly accurate"? Wow, thanks for clarifying that.

My opinion, we should not condone such marketing. It is wrong and bad for business for everyone. I do not need to point that out right?

If we cannot stop these marketing, at least educate public about it. When i was starting out, i thought it was normal for this kind of marketing, until i join the warrior forum and get to know WSO Offer. I could avoid alot of refund and time by being able to make inform decision about a purchase.

Look at Steve Claytons IMA, it hype but also informing user what to expect. Look at Mark Ling course, affilio blueprint and affilio jetpack, the sales letter clearly indicate what customer is about to get and it is also hype to a certain degree. Look at Profit Niche Classroom also in my opinion very good sales and hype marketing effort behind it. I am a happy customer thanks to you Dan in your email marketing for letting me find a place where to really learn how to make money online. I also bought another product through your email marketing effort, Easy Pay Check Formula which I am also very happy about it.

Look at Mage Monster, is it hype? Yeah it is, but it also shows what customer is getting through honesty. Now all these are what I consider a proper way to market a product. In IM niche, i believe that educating people there is no "magic" software helps the industry rather than hinders it. It easier for you to market you own course in the future when people realize there is some amount of effort need to put into to make this work. It call a business for a reason.

I hope i make a point in this post that proper marketing rather than these sleazy way of marketing helps everyone in the long run. Product Owner have a easier time to sell and customer are happy because they know what they are getting into. I believe for product owners that refund rate will go down if everyone play a part and be able to build a strong loyal base of customer.


William

I can sum this up in one sentence...

Everyone has an opinion.

You're free to like the copy, or to hate the copy, but the fact of the matter is, there are only two groups of people who matter in this debate... the customers, and the sellers. If both sides are happy, who cares what you think about the copy?

-Gary Ambrose

P.S. This is just like the "long" video debate... you can love them, or hate them, but honestly... who cares what you think?

We need to care. If we are sellers we need to care. If we are customers we need to care. As human beings we need to care. It's because of the "who cares" attitude that the internet, the IM niche in particular, has been going down a long slipper slope for sometime now. It's time that changed don't you think? Or don't you care?

/\/\/\ Correct! The squeeze pages and sales copy are quite nice actually, i'm going to set up my first one (on video) today!

Jeff

Ok, I actually LIKE this product Chronic Commissions

I still HATE the sales copy type and can't wait for the day when HONEST sales letters come back that tell you what you're going to get

Having said that, it's a legit product - I hope this video gives some better insight.
Jeff Lenney

I have been getting so many email on this product. and some comes from very very reputable IM trainers. But having so many products already, I decided to wait and see what people have to say here in warrior, and am I glad I waited. going to give this a pass as I am seeing more negative comments than Positive comments. Thanks all warriors.

So far it's been 9 hours since my first chonic campaign. I'm up $100 and it's using a list of 1500. Will update in the next few days as I'm sure more will come in. Also adding alot to my new list! This is something that's pretty cool. I'm going to pay for my first blast next week.

This is quite an interesting thread with all kinds of opinions and thoughts......

I must say though, that for many of us, the "push button bring in 50k per week" solutions are starting to get a little old for many of us that are more seasoned.

I understand writing entertaining copy, but.......there would probably be less backlash if the sales letters/videos were a bit less "blind copy" and let the buyer know more of what they are getting.

After reading these honest reviews, I do feel more informed, having gotten all sides to the story.

I think I will pass on this, but others may find the product a good fit for their business model.

I suppose if you wanted to extend the opportunity past the 25 built-in solo mailers one could join Charlie Page's Directory of Ezines and scan through the list of ezines that offer solo mailings and are targeted at the market you are in

Directory of Ezines

Regards

James Harkin

THANK YOU Dan Brock, I have been saying all along that Chronic Commissions is a VERY GOOD product and despite it being a bit hype on the sales copy it will certainly get someone who is new to internet marketing a much better start than most other IM products.

Glad to see some other Warriors gave it a shot and liked it as I said before I even gave a detailed review on it before sending people over too the sales page so even with the hype they would know EXACTLY what they are getting.

I don't care what anyone says personal experience has taught me THE MONEY IS IN THE LIST! Even a small list will help you make more money than having no list at all then you factor in a good Squeeze Page and Solo Ads it is well worth the price they are charging and as Dan said it is a marketed towards a different crowd than the Warrior Forum which is something I think we all forget at times including myself actually Dan has reminded me of that more than once!

Just to update you guys, I've added 101 people total so far to the new test list using Chronic Commission-and i've made $100 total so far. I'm going to do a paid blast soon I think to see how many get added that way. :-)
Jeff

Yeah keep us posted. I'd like to see how responsive their lists are

James

I might give this a wirl as I want to see how they're structuring their email campaign/funnel

James

Anyone willing to share what the solo-mailing lists actually are? That's not actually a part of the product right... so it could be shared I think.

M Thompson, yes you are right my friend it is in the RELATIONSHIP but you can't build that TRUST and in turn create even more SALES if you don't have the LIST!

But as I said you are right fortunately I have a good relationship with my list and I will almost always do a thorough review before sending them too any product. So they know exactly what they are getting as well as know that they can trust me when I recommend something!


Tim

So is chronic commision really works?Have you tried that sir Anik?

Hmmmm, its starting to sound interesting considering guys are making money!

So I still don't understand something- the product doesn't come with a free solo ad with one of those 20 list owners, right?

So you still have to pay for your traffic, correct?

Yeah I can imagine - I got one email account that gets hammered everyday from marketers emailing offer after offer

But for this to work, wouldn't you need hundreds of new leads coming in everyday?

James

Are my eyes deceiving me? Am I reading that this is a product that actually works and is making money for those who bought it? OMG. This is a first for me in the warrior forum regarding a clickbank mmo product.

This might be my next purchase and review. Anyone wants an affiliate sale? pm me your affiliate id or just fill in the form on the page below.

I cant believe how many programs are coming out that are similar to this. Ive been doing Interet Marketing for a few years now and found you have to put in genuine effort to see the results. If you could click your mouse five times and be driving a ferrari I think most people would have done it by now.

I don't get refunds often

This was a product I asked for a refund on.

Here is the note I gave to clickbank
"ClickBank may want to reexamine this product as the sales video and the actual
product are not the same. The sales video claims you will not have to invest in
anything else but you do - you need an auto responder or buy solo ads.
The sales video tells a story of how this system makes money and alludes to
being able to set up 1,000's of campaigns but that's not actually the case once
you login into the system. At any rate I predict this product will have a higher
than normal refund rate."

I didn't see this product as having value for a long term business.

I see on Clickbank they are stating the following:

Chronic Commissions. CB #1 BestSeller. $1.8mil Gross in 10 days. Top Affiliates are seeing $2 - $4 EPC's

This is proof a good story sells
Its a slick sales letter!

That is quite cheap though for a solo mailing.

Let us know how it goes if you decide to do one.

It'll be interesting to see the quality of the list.

James

Just a thought - is it worth buying this product, just to get access to the list of solo-ads so you know which lists are going to be over-mailed in the near future??

-John.

Thanks you guys! You just saved me $50, plus gave the incentive to unsubscribe from a few lists I've been on for years. The sales letter was awesome I think - but, from what it sounds like, the actual product is just another one of those that sets you up to promote the product itself via splash pages, etc., and does promos for solo-ad buys for their partners. Solo-ads buys can be found all over the internet - why pay someone for the 'opportunity' to promote their stuff via their buddies solo-ads? Not withstanding the fact that the sales copy was misleading - I wouldn't think of recommending this to my list - it would probably be gone in a few days!

I wouldn't touch this product with a 10-foot pole!

Hype, lies, unscrupulous? Ugh!

Is this the same as Chronic Profits? I'm assuming it is, I just got an email for that and it sounds like the same product, did they change the name?

From what I've heard it's basically Chronic Commissions 2.0 but launching as Chronic Profits.

I didn't have Chronic Commissions so don't know what to expect, but for some reason ClickSure are denying my card for the first time ever which is strane since I've purchased two products a week on average for the past month.

Oh well, looks like I won't be getting this one then (maybe thats a good thing, though?)

I remember when this product came out. It was the most overhyped sales letter ever in my opinion.

But be aware guys. Someone have copied the sales page and run it under the domain "chronicprofits.com". They use ClickSure as retailer and I think it's a scam.

But i don't know if the real, original product is good.


Jimmy