Anyone Used Above the matrix?

14 years ago

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14 years ago

Just purchased this. Skipped the upsells. Checking out the software properly. There are two software of which one was already given out by Bill McRea few days back for free.

The main software helps in doing niche research. Will have to see its quality now.

The training will tell you how to setup websites etc. You know all those newbie things...

Originally Posted by typhoon

There are 3 costly upsell worth $197 each. Can't say what the product is...The testimonial looks like a paid one given by some Nigerian resident. Why can't they make sales page like WSO's that tells what it actually IS (yeah its an old debate)?

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typhoon

14 years ago

AAAH! (no stupid sound)

I just got some time so thought to download the main software.

Guest What?...

Are you ready for it?...

THE LINK IS DEAD! The page returned Not Found...What a waste of time I had. Will wait for the software to be uploaded now :/

PS. I am sure the creators are reading this.

Originally Posted by typhoon

Just purchased this. Skipped the upsells. Checking out the software properly. There are two software of which one was already given out by Bill McRea few days back for free.

The main software helps in doing niche research. Will have to see its quality now.

The training will tell you how to setup websites etc. You know all those newbie things...

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gange10 14 years ago

Just purchased it, bought the first upsell as i thought you get 10 of there 1000 sites but guess what.....You get 10 generic sites they have created in the video it clearly states they have 1000 sites you will get ten Im not happy, spent over $250 for ten websites and a bit of software!

REFUND REFUND I think....
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  Checked with friends Google, Yahoo, and Bing, in searching for anything McReaSoft Solutions. It seems that Google query points to Yahoo, which does not produce an official McReaSoft site => at least on page1 :rolleyes:. Bing has the same reaction where it points to the same Yahoo results. Perhaps Bill & Co. does not want to be found.
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Dailybread

14 years ago

I purchased Bill McCrea's Massive Passive Profits some time ago. It was without a doubt the most difficult, most over-hyped, most refunded product I have ever bought. I refunded, along with about 70% of the purchasers from what I read. the launch was huge. The product unfinished and nothing like what was presented. The support non-existent. I promised myself I would never buy another product from Bill McCrea. I have kept that promise.

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csemprie 14 years ago

I am so happy this is the first place I go after I sense something's off with an IM product.

Thanks for the reviews!
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  Originally Posted by csemprie
  
  I am so happy this is the first place I go after I sense something's off with an IM product.
  
  Thanks for the reviews!
  
  My feelings exactly, I only wish that I had known about this forum some months back.
  As far as this product goes, I immediately unsubscribed from the list which sent me the link to this terrible sales page.
  
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giakling

14 years ago

It is always good to come here and check out reviews of new products, especially those with hyped-up promises or blind copy. I am glad that I check this out here before buying as I just got an email promoting this. This is the part I like about WF community. Thanks for the frank reviews.

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nbcreviews 14 years ago

still intrigued to find out exactly what this "software" is ...... wasnt his last fantastic software :"emerald ..." that just built backlinks on unknown blogs in return for you getting irrelevant links all over your own posts!!!
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Don Sherret

14 years ago

giakling, I would never buy any of this type junk without a visit to WF for reviews and experiences. I used to have my finger on the trigger for this junk until I learned the hard way to visit the "Warriors" first. Glad you see it the same way! Wish more innocent IM'ers would do the same.
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Originally Posted by giakling

It is always good to come here and check out reviews of new products, especially those with hyped-up promises or blind copy. I am glad that I check this out here before buying as I just got an email promoting this. This is the part I like about WF community. Thanks for the frank reviews.

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Kevin Lam

14 years ago

This is just my opinion without buying anything yet... but with a program like that I'm willing to pay a few thousand dollars. I'm shocked to see it at $49.95. If the software being sold can make money within the hour (and that much), I just don't see how any sane person would price it at $49.95.

What gets me is in Rule #4; despite their highly paid programmers and copywriters, they spell "Poser Altert". I mean, wtf is an "Altert"? English is a second language for me, so maybe someone can set me straight on that.

If you didn't notice it, here's the image: http://abovethematrix.com/img/poser.png

And just in case they fix or replace it, I uploaded it to my site too just for fun:

Anyhow, aside from that little mistake, it really does sound very overhyped. I would NOT share a program such as that so openly and for so cheap. Sure, there are upsells, but people obviously aren't satisfied with them anyway.

I'll pass on this one. Good luck to all that give it a shot. I hope you guys make all kinds of money with it. I really do.

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Shemp Hain

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

This is just my opinion without buying anything yet... but with a program like that I'm willing to pay a few thousand dollars. I'm shocked to see it at $49.95. If the software being sold can make money within the hour (and that much), I just don't see how any sane person would price it at $49.95.

What gets me is in Rule #4; despite their highly paid programmers and copywriters, they spell "Poser Altert". I mean, wtf is an "Altert"? English is a second language for me, so maybe someone can set me straight on that.

If you didn't notice it, here's the image: http://abovethematrix.com/img/poser.png

And just in case they fix or replace it, I uploaded it to my site too just for fun:

Anyhow, aside from that little mistake, it really does sound very overhyped. I would NOT share a program such as that so openly and for so cheap. Sure, there are upsells, but people obviously aren't satisfied with them anyway.

I'll pass on this one. Good luck to all that give it a shot. I hope you guys make all kinds of money with it. I really do.

That typo is pathetic and it's not a little mistake. It happens because these idiots rush out a product to make a quick buck then they either disappear or rehash more garbage and market it under an alias. Who is that desperate to push these ****ty products to their lists without even reading over the sales letter. UNREAL!

Yeah good luck with this product. I'm sure the software works well... if they can't catch a simple spelling error can you imagine how F'd up the coding is?

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bboretsky

14 years ago

I bought the massive passive BS product from Mcrea Soft and logged into one of his training webinars to hear how to set it up. It was without a doubt the worst webinar I have ever been on. No preparation, and I am not trying to spread rumors but either he had a flu that made him slur and ramble or, . . . I too decided I would never have anything to do with any product he was behind again. Maybe this one is different, but from the above comments, it doesn't sound like it.

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eBusinessChamp

14 years ago

Just unsubscribed from the list of the person who spammed me with this amazingly BSed product.

P.S.: Nigerians Rock! (No Joke)

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Kevin Lam

14 years ago

So question for David and typhoon... uhh... made your first sale yet? I think it's been at least an hour, right? Hehe. If not, they're calling you guys idiots because it's "idiot proof". Just food for thought.

You guys should ask that girl to show the $2,500 check from clickbank, hehe.

And this could just be a coincidence... but the big company that was in a down time... multi-national.... within 5 miles almost everywhere... investors jumping ship... sounds kinda like Block Buster, lol. Blah, I'm just up late BS'n.

That reminds me, I was at Block Buster not long ago. I asked if they were closing down. They said "no way, not here". 2 months later, their space is cleared out, hahahahahaha. So funny... so sad.

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Kevin Lam

14 years ago

I don't even know why I'm bothering, but I'll go ahead and bite the bullet and buy it as well. Only then can I give it an honest review. I'll hand it off to my assistant in the morning to give it a whirl.

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gange10 14 years ago

As i said i got the first OTO i wish i never im speaking to support so instead of 10 unique sites generating traffic and money gven to you, you get 10 generic blogs, guess what support WILL not answer my question, they skip round it everytime!

Im soooo pissed off, i never get had this is scamming i got offered a product (10 unique sites making money etc) instead i get the same ten sites everyone gets and i have to get them live and get them traffic nothing like the sales video.......
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ProvenWorthy

14 years ago

The product maker ought to get shot for this crappy scam. When it comes to IM, most people spend 95% of their effort on the sales copy and only 5% on their product.

This guy took it to 99.9% scamcopy and 0.1% for product, just for the sake of download.

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xxxJamesxxx

14 years ago

Look liks a another stinker... Be staying away from this one for sure

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Glenellis

14 years ago

As soon as I read how a major company agreed to hire them to build software, then on the fly agreed to let them keep the software when the project was over, my BS Detector was screaming.

When I saw the $49 price tag, my neighbor down the block's BS detector went off, probably because the wind was blowing in his direction.

When I read that ONLY 250 copies (more or less) would be released (at $49, after God alone knows how many affiliates were pumping this into the marketplace) I got a call from the Pentagon telling THEIR BS Detector was going off and it appeared the source of the BS was on my laptop screen.

$49 products with numerous $197 upsells are getting to be pretty boring. Can't scammers at least put some effort into coming up with a new way to rip us off? This one is SOOOOO 2010.

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IsabelDaGuerra

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenellis

As soon as I read how a major company agreed to hire them to build software, then on the fly agreed to let them keep the software when the project was over, my BS Detector was screaming.

When I saw the $49 price tag, my neighbor down the block's BS detector went off, probably because the wind was blowing in his direction.

When I read that ONLY 250 copies (more or less) would be released (at $49, after God alone knows how many affiliates were pumping this into the marketplace) I got a call from the Pentagon telling THEIR BS Detector was going off and it appeared the source of the BS was on my laptop screen.

$49 products with numerous $197 upsells are getting to be pretty boring. Can't scammers at least put some effort into coming up with a new way to rip us off? This one is SOOOOO 2010.

Ha Ha Ha... Like the BS Detectors, maybe you should be telling us how to get these so that we can be using it ourselves ;-)

Or maybe turn it into some Free Giveaway software... Hey who know POOF! Maybe get these BS's out of office/work/job

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Noctilus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenellis

As soon as I read how a major company agreed to hire them to build software, then on the fly agreed to let them keep the software when the project was over, my BS Detector was screaming.

When I saw the $49 price tag, my neighbor down the block's BS detector went off, probably because the wind was blowing in his direction.

When I read that ONLY 250 copies (more or less) would be released (at $49, after God alone knows how many affiliates were pumping this into the marketplace) I got a call from the Pentagon telling THEIR BS Detector was going off and it appeared the source of the BS was on my laptop screen.

$49 products with numerous $197 upsells are getting to be pretty boring. Can't scammers at least put some effort into coming up with a new way to rip us off? This one is SOOOOO 2010.

Gosh this is the 2nd time today Ive laughed out loud reading someones post on here. That was a really funny reply...I laughed from beginning to end. The part about the BS detectors..had me rolling!:p

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Kevin Lam

14 years ago

It's been about 4 hours since I submitted my email to get my login. I guess I'll wait 'til tomorrow. We can't run anything at this point to test it.

I've had the same problem with my own products with a few of my customers so I'm not going to hound him on it.

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typhoon

14 years ago

I've simply asked for the refund now. The product sux according to me.

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

It's been about 4 hours since I submitted my email to get my login. I guess I'll wait 'til tomorrow. We can run't anything at this point to test it.

I've had the same problem with my own products with a few of my customers so I'm not going to hound him on it.

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maverick4u

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

It's been about 4 hours since I submitted my email to get my login. I guess I'll wait 'til tomorrow. We can't run anything at this point to test it.

I've had the same problem with my own products with a few of my customers so I'm not going to hound him on it.

So as of yet nobody can give a real review of the "above the matrix" system because nobody has been able to login to the backend? Is it an autoblog generator system that creates backlinks to your money site?

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14 years ago

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Gijsbertus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wageslip

Why do people I respect (for the moment) send out mail to try and make affiliate money off this dross. Shame on you guys and thanks to this forum for producing real reviews.

Agreed ! And saving us all lot's of money ! I unsubscribed from a few lists because of this...

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14 years ago

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seven87

14 years ago

This thread is very entertaining indeed! I can't stop laughing about Neo and his matrix lol

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Penbry 14 years ago

Originally Posted by seven87

This thread is very entertaining indeed! I can't stop laughing about Neo and his matrix lol

I love the Warrior Forum for many reasons and this is another, good people like Kevin Lam, charges ahead on the front line to evaluate the product on behalf of all of us. Good onya Kevin!

Now about the sales video. I think that it is brilliant. Well crafted and tailored to newbie IMer's to hit the buy button almost as soon as the video finishes.

These guys use well written sales copy and I often take the time to study them. I get the distinct feeling that the same people write them all. There is a sameness to them. Who ever wrote them is really good.

I have even had someone on fiverr transcribe some of these for me in the past so I could study them.

So even if the product stinks (like many of them do) the sales video or copy is usually worth studying.

Some of the sales copy that I have studied from the CB-JV-Buddy-Club has been truly amazing.

That does not mean that I will buy it though. I'll wait for Kevin's review.
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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

I bought it to see what its all about.
Here is what I discovered

Yup its a hypy sales letter - aren't they all?

The crying minority woman was a real turn off.
I tend to ignore the sales letters because if I bothered to dissect them I wouldn't buy anything. As much as I hate hyped up sales letters, they really do make people pull out their credit card and buy and that's the name of the game - sales.

I for one have tried the non hype sales letter - just trying to be "honest" and I'll tell you it doesn't convert as well so that's why you will continue to see the hype. Like it or not.

I passed on all the upsells which as someone else stated there are 3.
I found the upsell pages and the product delivery a bit amateurish looking. Not at all the clean professional look I expecting since they are billing themselves as "the real deal".

I bought just the basic package $47
After you get inside if you decide you want to buy the premade blogs (10 for $197) you can buy then.

You have the option of installing the blogs on your domains or subdomains or you can install on their servers.
I opted to install on my own domain
Their system asks for the ftp information and its a one click process to get your blog installed (so is fantastico via cpanel) however what's installed is already loaded with plugins.

The blog comes with a content system and a back link system.
At first I was angry that the back link system "Traffic Nirvana" was a paid system. I was sure I had seen something about the setup in one of the videos. So, I watched the videos again and found you have to use their special email address to activate the system and get the API key. This is easy to miss so make sure you pay attention to the videos.

The auto content and back link system are theirs and appear to be the backbone of the system.

When you watch the video on setting up the monetization system they are using one of the "premade" blogs as an example so its a simple - place this adsense code here and place your clickbank code there - I'm using the basic blog so its not as straight forward.

For a newbie this will be confusing.

My blog contained the plugin "Quick Adsense" and needs to be configured. I'm ok with that since I know what I am doing but a newbie would be lost.

In my blog there is no auto space (that I've found yet) for Clickbank products. Once again the video shows him working with one of the premade blogs.

At any rate I'm still playing with it and you can see it here Solar Power News

Would I recommend this for a newbie? Yea I think its worth the $47 but there are not enough videos to walk a newbie through setting up the basic blog.

You should really get a premade one just to "cut your teeth" on the system. Unfortunately they only appear to sell them in lots of 10.
I don't agree with the way they promo these packages as it leads a person to believe that you are getting 10 of 1000 that they made and it implies that no 2 packages will have the same topics.

Thats incorrect as they are really 10 blogs of 10 topics and they are selling x number of packages containing those same topics.

Time will tell if the built in Content and Backlink system is effective.
If its not then this "system" is just another blog setup that you could do on your own.

As for their claim of earning money in the first hour - Yeah right. I don't think thats going to happen.
I'll be generous and finish setting things up and then give it a day.

I hope this was helpful.

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magentawave

14 years ago

Debbie,

If that auto backlinking system that you said was called "Traffic Nirvana" is the same as their "Auto Traffic Nirvana" then I want you to know that it does NOT work. I bought Auto Traffic Nirvana (A.K.A. Emerald One or ATN) a couple months ago because the thought of automatic backlinking was too irresistible to pass up. So I spent a whole bunch of time installing and activating it on about 12 sites and monitoring them to see if it was doing what it was supposed to do (deliver deep backlinks to every page/post on my sites) and after two months not even one backlink to my site was produced. Their tech guy told me on the phone a couple times that it would eventually start doing backlinks but their ATN system was totally backlogged because too many people bought it. So of course I asked him why in the heck do they keep selling it if their system can't handle it? You know, put a cap on it! And he said it would eventually work. I kind of felt sorry for the guy because he was caught in the middle and just doing his job. Understand that I really reeeeeally wanted it to work, but finally after almost two months had to pull the plug and get a refund and then deactivate and delete everything which was another big waste of time. So its obvious that ATN/Auto Traffic Nirvana/Emerald One is being sold in the hopes that most people will forget to ask for a refund until after the MBG expires...which is disingenous as hell!

I'll tell you one thing about his stuff... the copywriting is really good!

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Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

I bought it to see what its all about.
Here is what I discovered

Yup its a hypy sales letter - aren't they all?

The crying minority woman was a real turn off.
I tend to ignore the sales letters because if I bothered to dissect them I wouldn't buy anything. As much as I hate hyped up sales letters, they really do make people pull out their credit card and buy and that's the name of the game - sales.

I for one have tried the non hype sales letter - just trying to be "honest" and I'll tell you it doesn't convert as well so that's why you will continue to see the hype. Like it or not.

I passed on all the upsells which as someone else stated there are 3.
I found the upsell pages and the product delivery a bit amateurish looking. Not at all the clean professional look I expecting since they are billing themselves as "the real deal".

I bought just the basic package $47
After you get inside if you decide you want to buy the premade blogs (10 for $197) you can buy then.

You have the option of installing the blogs on your domains or subdomains or you can install on their servers.
I opted to install on my own domain
Their system asks for the ftp information and its a one click process to get your blog installed (so is fantastico via cpanel) however what's installed is already loaded with plugins.

The blog comes with a content system and a back link system.
At first I was angry that the back link system "Traffic Nirvana" was a paid system. I was sure I had seen something about the setup in one of the videos. So, I watched the videos again and found you have to use their special email address to activate the system and get the API key. This is easy to miss so make sure you pay attention to the videos.

The auto content and back link system are theirs and appear to be the backbone of the system.

When you watch the video on setting up the monetization system they are using one of the "premade" blogs as an example so its a simple - place this adsense code here and place your clickbank code there - I'm using the basic blog so its not as straight forward.

For a newbie this will be confusing.

My blog contained the plugin "Quick Adsense" and needs to be configured. I'm ok with that since I know what I am doing but a newbie would be lost.

In my blog there is no auto space (that I've found yet) for Clickbank products. Once again the video shows him working with one of the premade blogs.

At any rate I'm still playing with it and you can see it here Solar Power News

Would I recommend this for a newbie? Yea I think its worth the $47 but there are not enough videos to walk a newbie through setting up the basic blog.

You should really get a premade one just to "cut your teeth" on the system. Unfortunately they only appear to sell them in lots of 10.
I don't agree with the way they promo these packages as it leads a person to believe that you are getting 10 of 1000 that they made and it implies that no 2 packages will have the same topics.

Thats incorrect as they are really 10 blogs of 10 topics and they are selling x number of packages containing those same topics.

Time will tell if the built in Content and Backlink system is effective.
If its not then this "system" is just another blog setup that you could do on your own.

As for their claim of earning money in the first hour - Yeah right. I don't think thats going to happen.
I'll be generous and finish setting things up and then give it a day.

I hope this was helpful.

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robfrancis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

As much as I hate hyped up sales letters, they really do make people pull out their credit card and buy and that's the name of the game - sales.

I for one have tried the non hype sales letter - just trying to be "honest" and I'll tell you it doesn't convert as well so that's why you will continue to see the hype. Like it or not.

Great review, Debbie! I actually liked the sales letter and video they produced. As I understand, it was written by 5 time CB #1 copywriter Mike Williams (but I'm not personally familiar with his work). Someone else here mentioned that despite the poor quality product, warriors could learn from the sales copy which it appears is where the real effort has been put in. I agree.

Somehow, I would like to strike the balance between long sales pages that seem to be full of hype but produce sales and shorter more honest/realistic sales copy that doesn't perform as well in the conversion department. I'm toying with the idea of making a full on traditional hype sales page and running it by my fellow warriors first to get feedback before the product is actually released to the public. I'd be interested in any thoughts people have on this approach.

So long as I stand behind the software I produce, the sales copy has only one purpose and that is to drive sales.

Once, again great review Debbie.

Regards,
Rob Francis

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yossic

14 years ago

I also purchased and returned Bill's Massive Passive Profit. As soon as I got the email for Above The matrix I rushed over to this forum to see people's reactions.

I've been trying to earn some money with all these systems for teh past year and a half and I am yet to find a system that will help me do so. Traffic is key. If your site doesn't have traffic you won't make any sales. So far I have not found a magic bullet for traffic except hard work (articles).

I'll pass on this one.

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Maria Nguyen

14 years ago

Here's my feedback....I did not get far......! I signed in just fine..and I wanted to create a subdomain under their domain. As I created the subdomain under one of their existing domain "nichemaster.net" it first tells me that it is uploading and then directs me to a page with an error message:
"This website is temporarily unavailable. Please check back later.
Unfortunately there were no suitable nodes available to serve this request."

How am I going to proceed?

Also, what is everyone using (if anyone even brought the product) as their username and password on the Cyber Niche Finder program that they provided? The video states that the username and password was provided when we registered.

What registration page? Did anyone registered after their purchase? After purchase, we were taken to OTO1, 2, and 3 but never a registration page that provided us our username and pw for the Cyber Niche Program.

Is there anything to look forward to honestly? For an "ex-hacker" shouldn't they know better to protect their thank you page?

Anyway, anyone who has used this product successfully, please let me know. I am just curious

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14 years ago

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bensails 14 years ago

Got my refund.

Submitted help ticket and email to the clickbank receipt link and email address yesterday immediately after the purchase of the basic and 1st OTO. Have had no response to the help ticket or email. The OTO did not match the video either in terms of content on offer or price. I suspect the sales funnel was botched so that what I got was the downsell for the declined OTO 1.

In any case, even extending the benefit of the doubt (just not ready for prime time at launch) I don't see any way to get sales in the first hour after purchase. I am no idiot.

Benjamin
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TimNesbitt

14 years ago

I wouldn't recommend this product at all. I was kind of wondering when a not so good product would be released because there had been some very good ones coming out lately such: Income Entourage, Chronic Commissions, Instant Affiliate Paydays, etc. so I knew it was just a matter of time for one to come out and be a let down and this certainly fits the bill!

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seankaye

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TimNesbitt

I wouldn't recommend this product at all. I was kind of wondering when a not so good product would be released because there had been some very good ones coming out lately such: Income Entourage, Chronic Commissions, Instant Affiliate Paydays, etc. so I knew it was just a matter of time for one to come out and be a let down and this certainly fits the bill!

I totally agree with you Tim - there's been some decent products out recently, I think Josh and Andrew have done a great job with Unstoppable Affiliate and Jamie Lewis' Income Entourage as you pointed out was another.

It seemed like it was only a matter of time before the next "click here and get rich" product would come out. I'm not sure how I ended up Dylan Loh's list, but he's the one who sent it to me - I've now unsubscribed. That's the best way to handle people sending you junk like this.

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Aristocratic

14 years ago

I got the basic package because the upsells were not at all appealing (and it did seem the third video was exactly the same as the second, guess they got lazy).

I wanted to play with it after I watched the setup videos so I tried the setup on their hosts via a subdomain option. When it setup, it just says "complete" but it doesn't take you to the completed blog, and there is no section that shows you a list of urls that you have.

So I went back to find the url, went to it, clicked login and it wouldn't let me login. I look up in the url field and it's a totally different url (they have two domains you can choose to set up subdomains on and this one showed a different subdomain AND domain name). I figured it may have been a fluke so I try setting it up again.

This time I tried on the other domain and navigated to the url. At least this time when I went to the url, the theme was their theme. But when I hit the url, it again sent me to another subdomain and domain name (a domain not of the two we get to pick from even). I, just for kicks, enter the user id and pw and it redirected me to yet another subdomain and domain.

It's horrible.

So I tried the 'setup on your own servers' option via their ftp method. It said complete, I navigate to the url, and nothing. I checked the ftp details and they work fine with my ftp client.

I can't comment on the content or traffic (and therefor the 'make a sale in an hour') part because I haven't gotten past the setup. I submitted a support ticket last night when I bought it. Around 8:30pm so I didn't expect a reply yesterday.

But it's 7:09pm now and still no reply.

Poor product, poor support. Stay away.

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

magentawave

Yup thats what it's called "Traffic Nirvana"

When you buy this system you don't have to buy Traffic Nirvana - its included.
I set up the blog and their system did post the first article. I have it set to 2 articles a day.

I'll see what happens.
I won't do any more blogs then the one I just set up.
My time is limited
You can see the blog here Solar Power News
I got the basic package and had to add complete Adsense ad code to the plugin that came with the package. I also added the Clickbank stuff in the sidebar as well, I picked the theme.

I'm very proficient with using Wordpress so its easy for me to add these extra things but I can see how a newbie would easily get lost.

As some else stated they couldn't figure out the url after installing.

I've seen the auto content part work just fine.
The blog loaded just fine for me on both their domains and mine
I'm waiting to see what happens with the backlink system - Traffic Nirvana.

I'd say if they were gearing this to newbies they missed the mark by a long shot as there should be a ton more videos going over every step of the install and configuration.

Hey for $47 I've bought worse products.

The 2 pieces of software they included, I didn't use as I have other tools that do the same thing much better.

The blog is monetized so I'll see how their claims hold up.
I'm not holding my breath but I figure you can't really review a product unless you complete all the steps.... Right?

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onemorewarrior

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

magentawave

Yup thats what it's called "Traffic Nirvana"

When you buy this system you don't have to buy Traffic Nirvana - its included.
I set up the blog and their system did post the first article. I have it set to 2 articles a day.

I'll see what happens.
I won't do any more blogs then the one I just set up.
My time is limited
You can see the blog here Solar Power News
I got the basic package and had to add complete Adsense ad code to the plugin that came with the package. I also added the Clickbank stuff in the sidebar as well, I picked the theme.

I'm very proficient with using Wordpress so its easy for me to add these extra things but I can see how a newbie would easily get lost.

As some else stated they couldn't figure out the url after installing.

I've seen the auto content part work just fine.
The blog loaded just fine for me on both their domains and mine
I'm waiting to see what happens with the backlink system - Traffic Nirvana.

I'd say if they were gearing this to newbies they missed the mark by a long shot as there should be a ton more videos going over every step of the install and configuration.

Hey for $47 I've bought worse products.

The 2 pieces of software they included, I didn't use as I have other tools that do the same thing much better.

The blog is monetized so I'll see how their claims hold up.
I'm not holding my breath but I figure you can't really review a product unless you complete all the steps.... Right?

Hey Deb

Seems like you are the only one to actually get this working.

That said I noticed you mentioned that you added your own
adsense code and tweaked the side bars for clickbank and you
used your own theme.

So basically you are not using the system the way it was designed.
It was my understanding that you follow the system and it does all the monetizing stuff for you right out of the gate.

So in reality this is just another autoblog system and has no real value.
It most certainly DOES NOT live up to the promises. CHEERS

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110ben

14 years ago

Hey Kevin
I wish you well on your journey and when you succeed please give us poor struggling warriors a heads up. Like everybody else here i am so sick of this rubbish.
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rmoore 14 years ago

This is too bad. Bill's course "Marketing on the Fringe" was one of my favorite blogging courses ever (for setting up and monetizing autoblogs). He has a great teaching style and the system he taught worked really well.

Unfortunately it looks like he screwed up with this one

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by 110ben

Hey Kevin
I wish you well on your journey and when you succeed please give us poor struggling warriors a heads up. Like everybody else here i am so sick of this rubbish.
Good luck

Ben, I wasn't going to reply in here and wanted to just leave this thread entirely, but you brought up something.

You see, the reason I'm wanting to push my project even further is there are people out there struggling and suffering from BS programs like this. There are people who fall into the trap and lose their money, mind, will and self.

I know a man who is now homeless, lives in a van with his wife and 9 year old autistic son. He's also fighting cancer for the 3rd time. I've just sent him a SECRET detoxing remedy to help him fight the cancer long enough to live again... long enough to fulfill something. I have made a promise to help him regain his money, his dignity and safety for his family.

This is why I'm setting out to build a program more powerful than any of these knuckle heads claim to be able to do. I'm not doing it for the money. I'm not doing it for the fame. I'm doing it for the pride and joy I will get out of it when I can truly help people like him overcome such sadness and despair.

Will this program produce me $2 million or so, yeah. Is that a lot of money? To some, yes. To me, no. It's nothing in comparison to my other projects that would DWARF the money I can produce with this. My other businesses can produce 10 times that much every month. But that's for me, not for someone else.

Again, it's not about the money - it's about the people I can help with this kind of technology and solution. Enough of the bull**** blue pills, red pills and jackass sales pitches that promises the moon and gives you a f'n blueprint to build a rocket ship on your own.

Real people need real results. I'm going to deliver a system that can produce 6-figure incomes on TRUE autopilot. That is my dream, that is my goal, that is my destiny.

Enough talk. I'm out of here.

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14 years ago

Kevin,
I'll be waiting for yout product launch. Hope you'll have a warrior WSO prior to full public launch...

Joe

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

Ben, I wasn't going to reply in here and wanted to just leave this thread entirely, but you brought up something.

You see, the reason I'm wanting to push my project even further is there are people out there struggling and suffering from BS programs like this. There are people who fall into the trap and lose their money, mind, will and self.

I know a man who is now homeless, lives in a van with his wife and 9 year old autistic son. He's also fighting cancer for the 3rd time. I've just sent him a SECRET detoxing remedy to help him fight the cancer long enough to live again... long enough to fulfill something. I have made a promise to help him regain his money, his dignity and safety for his family.

This is why I'm setting out to build a program more powerful than any of these knuckle heads claim to be able to do. I'm not doing it for the money. I'm not doing it for the fame. I'm doing it for the pride and joy I will get out of it when I can truly help people like him overcome such sadness and despair.

Will this program produce me $2 million or so, yeah. Is that a lot of money? To some, yes. To me, no. It's nothing in comparison to my other projects that would DWARF the money I can produce with this. My other businesses can produce 10 times that much every month. But that's for me, not for someone else.

Again, it's not about the money - it's about the people I can help with this kind of technology and solution. Enough of the bull**** blue pills, red pills and jackass sales pitches that promises the moon and gives you a f'n blueprint to build a rocket ship on your own.

Real people need real results. I'm going to deliver a system that can produce 6-figure incomes on TRUE autopilot. That is my dream, that is my goal, that is my destiny.

Enough talk. I'm out of here.

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podman 14 years ago

The big name marketer who sent me the link to this crap was someone i previously respected.

I've just sent him an email letting him know that he has just shown me he doesn't care about my success at all, only about selling any crap to his list to line his pocket, and therefore doesn't deserve to have me (or any one else) on his list.

It's only by giving feedback and unsubscribing that marketers will hopefully learn the lesson that promoting crap will do more harm than good to their pockets.

Shame on any marketer who promotes crap!!!
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msdobe 14 years ago

I bought it and the upgrade. Cant get the Niche Finder to work. sent 2 tickets in to Support, emailed another support address, called the support phone number (temporarily unavailable).

Needless to say I'm asking for a refund!!

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Brad789

14 years ago

Gange10

Brad here - I got the same promotion and thought almost immediately about Warrior Forum - sure was refreshing to get the low down immediately.

I see you have been at this a while. I wonder if you agree that true internet marketing comes from long term experience - not from turn key products.

I have not seen one yet that I got or other have well reviewed do well. BUT what I have discovered is that learning the key skills in internet marketing puts me in a different group of providers.

If we are all willing to put in 12 - 18 - 20+ years in a school -- seems like we would be willing to commit some serious time to learning what amounts to an industry.

Here we are learning marketing; then we are learning programing; then we are learning copywriting; then we are learning to communicate; then we see we need to understand niches and customer traffic issues etc etc.

For me, I want to be in for the long haul. I have found a few people I know practice what they teach and have had some success. I am a huge fan of Chris Farrell and his team.

You might want to check out my recent experience with Chris and his team. No doubt in my mind - they are there to deliver and teach. Not sell some fast bucks scheme.

I am also a big fan of the Internet Business Mastery crew Jay and Sterling. I see them as the real cheerleaders of the market. Their PodCasts OVERDELIVER every single time!

I get a lot out of their 30 minute sessions. From the comments on their site and the PodCasts themselves - so do a lot of others.

Just wonder what the consensus is about turn key systems. It would be hard to change my mind at this point after all the really bad systems I have reviewed.

What do you think?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad789

Gange10

Brad here - I got the same promotion and thought almost immediately about Warrior Forum - sure was refreshing to get the low down immediately.

I see you have been at this a while. I wonder if you agree that true internet marketing comes from long term experience - not from turn key products.

I have not seen one yet that I got or other have well reviewed do well. BUT what I have discovered is that learning the key skills in internet marketing puts me in a different group of providers.

If we are all willing to put in 12 - 18 - 20+ years in a school -- seems like we would be willing to commit some serious time to learning what amounts to an industry.

Here we are learning marketing; then we are learning programing; then we are learning copywriting; then we are learning to communicate; then we see we need to understand niches and customer traffic issues etc etc.

For me, I want to be in for the long haul. I have found a few people I know practice what they teach and have had some success. I am a huge fan of Chris Farrell and his team.

You might want to check out my recent experience with Chris and his team. No doubt in my mind - they are there to deliver and teach. Not sell some fast bucks scheme.

I am also a big fan of the Internet Business Mastery crew Jay and Sterling. I see them as the real cheerleaders of the market. Their PodCasts OVERDELIVER every single time!

I get a lot out of their 30 minute sessions. From the comments on their site and the PodCasts themselves - so do a lot of others.

Just wonder what the consensus is about turn key systems. It would be hard to change my mind at this point after all the really bad systems I have reviewed.

What do you think?

Cheers !

Yes Brad, totally agree and i never normally get sucked in but did twice once with the intial offer then with the OTO offering ten ready made sites already getting traffic and making money instead 10 generic sites, I actually feel like a fool......

I hope my experiances serve to help people.

Just so you know the help desk will not answer my questions on the fist OTO this just serves to tell me rip off merchants......

David

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jlmconnection

14 years ago

I read the sales copy and watched the video yesterday. As soon as I wartched the video with the girl and she said she made $2500 in a month and I just watched her eyes as she went through the video my "here's anything piece of crap being hyped" alarm went off. I thought about buying it just to see if ANY of the promises were true but I didn't. After reading all the comments from my fellow warriors I am glad I did not spend the money and time. Nothing quite like the reality check this forum can bring.

Jim

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rdbranson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jlmconnection

I read the sales copy and watched the video yesterday. As soon as I wartched the video with the girl and she said she made $2500 in a month and I just watched her eyes as she went through the video my "here's anything piece of crap being hyped" alarm went off. I thought about buying it just to see if ANY of the promises were true but I didn't. After reading all the comments from my fellow warriors I am glad I did not spend the money and time. Nothing quite like the reality check this forum can bring.

Jim

LOL, know just what you mean.
I wonder how many people buy just to find out if anything is actually delivered as promised.
Actually, the reference to AI (artificial intelligence) got my interest. Pretty soon we will get all sorts of "AI software" promoted by sleazebags.
Imagine all of the new names you can come up with.

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Kevin Lam

14 years ago

Guys, I'm going to discontinue the testing and get a refund. It's just relentless and not worth our time. I can understand if there are incompatible issues due to server differences, but in this case, it's on their own server. We can't even log into the software with their provided login.

It just surprises me that as much as they claim to put into this system there are still so many problems. I'm sure their dozens of overpaid programmers and 18 professional English writers who passed in college with a "C-" could put together a decent member's area and more protected files.

The whole thing looks rather rushed and thrown together at the last minute. It seems more time was spent on the sales copy than anything else (even then, there are lots of mistakes), which is not at all necessary. I've sold about $40,000 with a video of me in a muscle shirt and my foot up in my chair, so sales copy and gimmicks like his is not necessary.

From everything he was saying, I was expecting a lot more out of the program. It's a huge disappointment BUT was not at all surprised. I truly did wanted it to work out though and be proven wrong. I hate to see anyone fail, but this is just not acceptable.

By the way, Maria is my assistant. She's the one that was trying to use it and left her feedback yesterday. It's definitely not an easy program to work with and making your first sale within the 1st hour... huge joke that is. If it wasn't so hyped up, I think the responses would not be like this though. It might even allow us folks to be more patient.

But when you claim to deliver water to a desperate town in crisis, you'd better come through. If you say there are obstacles that must be overcome and it will be difficult, but you WILL get there... people are more understanding and will do their best to hold on.

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And the fact of the matter is guys, the ONLY reason I even looked at the product and purchased the initial program was I thought they beat my team to creating such a system. Happy to know they haven't. My journey continues.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

[B] I've sold about $40,000 with a video of me in a muscle shirt and my foot up in my chair, so sales copy and gimmicks like his is not necessary.

That is classic Kevin!! I think that if I ever decide to teach any of the stuff I'm doing now to make money, I might where a muscle shirt in my video too!!
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tadpole88

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HROS

The only issue I have is that they have a plugin called Traffic Nirvana, but I haven't gotten any traffic yet. But it's only been 2 days since I bought it.

Traffic Nirvana was included do you mean you bought it separately?

I noticed your site has been up since 25 June have you not had any results.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by HROS

Traffic Nirvana was included in the original product. No results, other than people from this forum going to the site since I posted the url - but my intention was not to get traffic like that, only to show it as an example of how easy it was to setup their premade templates.

Like I said before, it's unrealistic to think a flood of traffic will magic come in because of a few plugins, SEO takes time. So we'll see.

Did you activate the aggregators in the Manage aggregators section of Traffic Nirvana?

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kbs

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HROS

I bought the course AND the upsells (I don't know why you guys take the time to bash the product, but don't buy the upsells). All you have to do is send a one-word email to paypal [at] clickbank [dot] com with your receipt that says 'Refund' and you get your money back.

I built a site using their premade templates. Here is my site: TheTruthAboutForexTrading.com

It took me under an hour.

The only issue I have is that they have a plugin called Traffic Nirvana, but I haven't gotten any traffic yet. But it's only been 2 days since I bought it. I also hosted it on my own server (I wouldn't trust any of my sites on someone else's servers)

Either way, the templates are decent, but you will need to drive you own traffic and add your own monetization to make it work to any significant level.

The video training itself leaves alot to be desired for a newbie and looked like the training was an after-thought.

Who knows, they may add more information to the backend training.

But I actually bought all the products, took action and they do promise what they say (to an extent), but the auto-traffic is yet to be seen. But it's SEO, so I'm not expecting any miracles.

Took a look at your site and it looks good. Very similar to one that I've got but I bought it from a WF member and had it installed for around $25. I guess the only thing left for you to do now is to drive traffic and convert. Best of luck.

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csemprie

14 years ago

One thought that keeps popping up for me is....

If the product creators met on the Warrior Forum, (which they plugged on the sales page)........and they launched a seemingly broken product which has yet to receive a positive accolade.....

Did they not think about their reputations on WF at all? I would have expected much more from experienced IMers who met on WF of all places!

Naive of me to think, I guess.

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14 years ago

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14 years ago

Let me start by saying... I've never seen so much negativity coming from one place, even from people whom have never even bought the software.

My background is Personal Development, I do believe, that many of you in this thread, should try read some of Napoleon Hill's books and follow his formula...

Back to the actual product and software.

Just purchased this software not so long ago.

Setup my first site here, took me 20 minutes tops. I agree it's not very user friendly. My site is below:

Video Game Shops

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mw 14 years ago

Bruce,

Video Game Shops is an excellent looking site. Is your site from a template provided by Above the Matrix? Is the site on your server or theirs? Can you please go into more detail about the difficulties of setting up the site? Thanks!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Profolegy

Let me start by saying... I've never seen so much negativity coming from one place, even from people whom have never even bought the software.

My background is Personal Development, I do believe, that many of you in this thread, should try read some of Napoleon Hill's books and follow his formula...

Back to the actual product and software.

Just purchased this software not so long ago.

Setup my first site here, took me 20 minutes tops. I agree it's not very user friendly. My site is below:

Video Game Shops

Cheers Bruce

You should note that that site is one of the 10 sites from the $197 package. What you pay for when you get the $47 package, you get Intrepidity WordPress Theme | Top Blog Formula (Intrepidity theme). You are given a blank theme, a content plugin, and the Traffice Nirvana plugin.

I went ahead and downloaded the package and set it up manually on my own server, but if you are a newbie to wordpress or even using backupbuddy to restore a backed up blog, it's going to be even harder. Will see how it goes as far as the content goes.

I finally got a reply to my ticket tonight. To bad the reply had absolutely nothing to do with my tickets. It simply said that the upgraded theme was for the upgraded packages. Horrible customer service.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Profolegy

Let me start by saying... I've never seen so much negativity coming from one place, even from people whom have never even bought the software.

My background is Personal Development, I do believe, that many of you in this thread, should try read some of Napoleon Hill's books and follow his formula...

Back to the actual product and software.

Just purchased this software not so long ago.

Setup my first site here, took me 20 minutes tops. I agree it's not very user friendly. My site is below:

Video Game Shops

Cheers Bruce

People get upset, including me, because most of us like to be able to believe that promises are kept. Unfortunately, the idea of "my word is my bond" seems to have pretty much disappeared from everybody's thinking.
If you are into personal development, I am sure you are aware how important trust is.
Personally, I like to believe in the Samurai Code. If your word turns out to be no good, you should commit seppuku. It is just a little too radical, but something close to that would improve all of our experiences dramatically, and why wouldn't you want that?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by rdbranson

I like to believe in the Samurai Code. If your word turns out to be no good, you should commit seppuku. It is just a little too radical, but something close to that would improve all of our experiences dramatically, and why wouldn't you want that?

Yes.
That would certainly cut down on the sheer number of scammers out there!

The trouble is, even in Japan, Samurai were corrupt - not committing seppuku when honor required they do so, covering up dishonorable acts to preserve outward honor.
Shooting Samurai with guns!

If you get the chance check out the 1962 movie HARA KIRI, dir. Masaki Kobayashi.

If Samurai can't honor their own code, I hardly think Internet Marketers would!

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alisa777

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Profolegy

Let me start by saying... I've never seen so much negativity coming from one place, even from people whom have never even bought the software.

My background is Personal Development, I do believe, that many of you in this thread, should try read some of Napoleon Hill's books and follow his formula...

Back to the actual product and software.

Just purchased this software not so long ago.

Setup my first site here, took me 20 minutes tops. I agree it's not very user friendly. My site is below:

Video Game Shops

Cheers Bruce

I've just checked your site, it has PR 2 !
Not too bad for the new site

Do you do any additional seo/marketing besides what's provided with their
Auto Traffic Nirvana plugin ?

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Amod Oke

14 years ago

Guys, some more funny stuff on their sales page:

1) "I don’t care how high-quality you think your links are.
The ones we provide are better.
We’re talking about government-grade links that shoot sites to the top of search engines in minutes, not days."

Really, what are government-grade links!?? Never heard of them! Ummm, maybe I should get the course for knowing that!

2) "I don’t care how good you think your English is.
It isn’t better than the work of the 18 professional career writers we had programming this."

Did their "professional career WRITERS" program the software!? And seriously, so much arrogance?

As Kevin pointed out earlier, if their English is really thaaaaat good, I better remain alert, oops... I mean altert!

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

Gimli you insist on bashing this product by reporting incorrect information.

I wonder what happened to the thread you started (and I answered) where you posted the exact same comments you have above.

For anyone who is looking at this product don't read Gimli's crap.
He's not correct - You don't have to buy the Traffic Nirvana - its included
You don't have to buy the UACP - is their article / content system. The activation code was included in your email as well as in your account when you log in.

They are having problems with their servers and are doing an upgrade tonight - I just got the email. For those of you who can't get a blog installed that should help.

Personally I just installed another blog 15 minutes ago without problems.

Once again I am not affiliated with these people other than the fact that I am a customer as of July 26.

I think if people are going to do a review they need to test the product and do it correctly so that is why I'm reporting back what I've discovered (unlike some of the people in this thread who just want to bash the product)

Remember people this could easily be YOUR product and you'd be pissed if someone was bashing it without truly testing it.

I installed my first blog yesterday and today I see I've made $3.87 in Adsense earnings.
That may have been from visitors from the WF checking out the blog so I'll see how the next few days go but I also see from my Google analytics that I had 12 visitors (none of those visitors were from search engines & that doesn't include the WF visitors)

Now $3.87 is not get rich money except you need to remember that its for 1 day so if the blog continues on this path it will make over $100 per month.
Also remember this is for a blog that was less than 24 hrs old AND is not indexed yet.

I'm not unhappy with the system. As I stated in an earlier post its probably not as newbie friendly as they were intending it to be.
I would have liked to see more videos on all aspects of working the system in order to qualify it as being newbie friendly.

As for the ready made blogs - Personally I don't like to go that route as I don't want to put up blogs where someone else has done the same one 1,000 times.

There are 1,000's and 1,000's of niches and micro niches out there. Pick one of those. Don't be a sheep using the same old niches as everyone else because those have been beat to death and you won't make money.

These are "set up and forget" type blogs as their "system" is supposed to handle the rest for you. (articles and backlinks)

onemorewarrior - I am using the system as intended. All I did was add my monetization a little differently as the premade blogs had the code already setup (not the basic blog). All you needed to do was add your personal Clickbank & Adsense code.
In the basic blog the plugin is there you just have to activate it and tell it where you want the ads to show.

I believe the main selling features of the product were met - they were to:
1. automate the blog install - it does that
2. automate the back linking & traffic - it does that with the Nirvana product (results yet to be determined although those 12 visitors had to come from somewhere). I also had one trackback for the first article.
3. automate the content / article system - it does that. It posts full articles automatically.

So far I can't tell them I haven't made any money with the blog because it does have earnings. How much it earns over the next few days, weeks, and months is a different story. The earnings didn't happen in the first hour but they happened in the first day.

I'll let you know how things turn out over the next few days for those of you who are interested in a real review of the product.

Oh by the way - notice I don't have any links to the product. I haven't even written about it on my own blog. So I don't have any financial gain doing this.
I'm posting this as an honest review because I detest it when people bash a product based on their opinion instead of facts.

Another thing - you guys picking apart the sales page is like saying you think the product is going to be garbage because the packaging is ugly.
Are you buying the system or the wrapper?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

I installed my first blog yesterday and today I see I've made $3.87 in Adsense earnings.
That may have been from visitors from the WF checking out the blog so I'll see how the next few days go but I also see from my Google analytics that I had 12 visitors (none of those visitors were from search engines & that doesn't include the WF visitors)

Now $3.87 is not get rich money except you need to remember that its for 1 day so if the blog continues on this path it will make over $100 per month.
Also remember this is for a blog that was less than 24 hrs old AND is not indexed yet.

I'm not unhappy with the system. As I stated in an earlier post its probably not as newbie friendly as they were intending it to be.
I would have liked to see more videos on all aspects of working the system in order to qualify it as being newbie friendly.

As for the ready made blogs - Personally I don't like to go that route as I don't want to put up blogs where someone else has done the same one 1,000 times.

There are 1,000's and 1,000's of niches and micro niches out there. Pick one of those. Don't be a sheep using the same old niches as everyone else because those have been beat to death and you won't make money.

These are "set up and forget" type blogs as their "system" is supposed to handle the rest for you. (articles and backlinks)

onemorewarrior - I am using the system as intended. All I did was add my monetization a little differently as the premade blogs had the code already setup (not the basic blog). All you needed to do was add your personal Clickbank & Adsense code.
In the basic blog the plugin is there you just have to activate it and tell it where you want the ads to show.

I believe the main selling features of the product were met - they were to:
1. automate the blog install - it does that
2. automate the back linking & traffic - it does that with the Nirvana product (results yet to be determined although those 12 visitors had to come from somewhere). I also had one trackback for the first article.
3. automate the content / article system - it does that. It posts full articles automatically.

So far I can't tell them I haven't made any money with the blog because it does have earnings. How much it earns over the next few days, weeks, and months is a different story. The earnings didn't happen in the first hour but they happened in the first day.

I'll let you know how things turn out over the next few days for those of you who are interested in a real review of the product.

Oh by the way - notice I don't have any links to the product. I haven't even written about it on my own blog. So I don't have any financial gain doing this.
I'm posting this as an honest review because I detest it when people bash a product based on their opinion instead of facts.

Another thing - you guys picking apart the sales page is like saying you think the product is going to be garbage because the packaging is ugly.
Are you buying the system or the wrapper?

Deb

Thanks for the clarification

It is greatly appreciated that you are so up front and honest.
I missed the part where you said you were unhappy with the system.
My Bad sorry if you took offense.
By the way I like the improvements you made on your solar blog
you did a wonderful job. It's clean simple easy to read. I especially like that you renamed the sidebars so they don't look like advertisements. Opt in box nice touch. Great job .Keep us up to date on your progress.

P.S. 3.87 a day isn't alot but it's a hell of alot more than 000.00 a day HA HA CHEERS :p

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tadpole88

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

He's not correct - You don't have to buy the Traffic Nirvana - its included

Debbie,

Are you just using the key and email from the video or did you actually receive a different key via email after requesting one from Above the Matrix?

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tadpole88

Debbie,

Are you just using the key and email from the video or did you actually receive a different key via email after requesting one from Above the Matrix?

For the UACP activation code - that was sent in your welcome email as well it's in your account when you login.
I'm discovering this same code will work on multiple blogs.

Initially when I logged in I got the impression that I purchased just one license but as he states in the video you can do unlimited blogs.

For the Traffic Nirvana API code - these guys missed the mark on letting you know how to get it. It's only mentioned in the install videos in the members area. He talks about using their designated email address. Once you put the email address in the field and hit update, the page refreshes and your API code is automatically added to the field.

For an update
The Solar power blog finished the day earning $2.36
There were 27 unique visitors yesterday NOT including visitors from the Warrior Forum.

The new blog I created yesterday - which I finished late in the day made a whopping $0.01 in Adsense revenue
Unfortunately my Google analytics didn't record the visits so I can't tell you the numbers of unique visitors or where they came from.
The Adsense system says there were 107 page views so obviously there were visitors.
I'll see what happens today.

As for this new blog - its a different topic (jobs and employment is the theme). I'm pretty sure the adsense payouts for this topic are going to be less because the cost per click to the advertiser is less.

For both blogs, the auto content is posting as its supposed to. In the Traffic Nirvana plugin there are a few more things I need to finish in the Aggregators section. The plugin uses 8 aggregators, 2 of which needed to have accounts set up and I was lazy and didn't do those 2. I'll do those today for both blogs.

If you guys want me to continue to post updates, I will.

Just understand I'm not trying to sell the product. I'm just trying to figure out what value it has (if any).

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

For the UACP activation code - that was sent in your welcome email as well it's in your account when you login.
I'm discovering this same code will work on multiple blogs.

Initially when I logged in I got the impression that I purchased just one license but as he states in the video you can do unlimited blogs.

For the Traffic Nirvana API code - these guys missed the mark on letting you know how to get it. It's only mentioned in the install videos in the members area. He talks about using their designated email address. Once you put the email address in the field and hit update, the page refreshes and your API code is automatically added to the field.

For an update
The Solar power blog finished the day earning $2.36
There were 27 unique visitors yesterday NOT including visitors from the Warrior Forum.

The new blog I created yesterday - which I finished late in the day made a whopping $0.01 in Adsense revenue
Unfortunately my Google analytics didn't record the visits so I can't tell you the numbers of unique visitors or where they came from.
The Adsense system says there were 107 page views so obviously there were visitors.
I'll see what happens today.

As for this new blog - its a different topic (jobs and employment is the theme). I'm pretty sure the adsense payouts for this topic are going to be less because the cost per click to the advertiser is less.

For both blogs, the auto content is posting as its supposed to. In the Traffic Nirvana plugin there are a few more things I need to finish in the Aggregators section. The plugin uses 8 aggregators, 2 of which needed to have accounts set up and I was lazy and didn't do those 2. I'll do those today for both blogs.

If you guys want me to continue to post updates, I will.

Just understand I'm not trying to sell the product. I'm just trying to figure out what value it has (if any).

$2.36 for the brand new site is NOT easy to do.
So, for you, seems like good deal IF it continues.

And yes, please continue your update

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Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

If you guys want me to continue to post updates, I will.

please do, the info ur providing is invaluable. as someone who understands wordpress as well as how to install these types of blogs, ur a great litmus test for this product for the bulk of us who aren't nearly as proficient at this type of stuff.

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

Just understand I'm not trying to sell the product. I'm just trying to figure out what value it has (if any).

totally understand, and appreciate u taking the time to let us know what ur finding out.
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maverick4u

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

For the UACP activation code - that was sent in your welcome email as well it's in your account when you login.
I'm discovering this same code will work on multiple blogs.

Initially when I logged in I got the impression that I purchased just one license but as he states in the video you can do unlimited blogs.

For the Traffic Nirvana API code - these guys missed the mark on letting you know how to get it. It's only mentioned in the install videos in the members area. He talks about using their designated email address. Once you put the email address in the field and hit update, the page refreshes and your API code is automatically added to the field.

For an update
The Solar power blog finished the day earning $2.36
There were 27 unique visitors yesterday NOT including visitors from the Warrior Forum.

The new blog I created yesterday - which I finished late in the day made a whopping $0.01 in Adsense revenue
Unfortunately my Google analytics didn't record the visits so I can't tell you the numbers of unique visitors or where they came from.
The Adsense system says there were 107 page views so obviously there were visitors.
I'll see what happens today.

As for this new blog - its a different topic (jobs and employment is the theme). I'm pretty sure the adsense payouts for this topic are going to be less because the cost per click to the advertiser is less.

For both blogs, the auto content is posting as its supposed to. In the Traffic Nirvana plugin there are a few more things I need to finish in the Aggregators section. The plugin uses 8 aggregators, 2 of which needed to have accounts set up and I was lazy and didn't do those 2. I'll do those today for both blogs.

If you guys want me to continue to post updates, I will.

Just understand I'm not trying to sell the product. I'm just trying to figure out what value it has (if any).

Yes...$2.36/day for a new blog from adsense is actually excellent. Not many laborious hand made blogs can make that claim. So if you pick the right KW's and domains @2.36/day=$70 monthx30 blogs is $2100/mo. Not too shabby.

I was of the opinion that Google turned their nose up at autoblogs using their adsense program...but you mix in your own original content?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by maverick4u

Yes...$2.36/day for a new blog from adsense is actually excellent. Not many laborious hand made blogs can make that claim. So if you pick the right KW's and domains @2.36/day=$70 monthx30 blogs is $2100/mo. Not too shabby.

I was of the opinion that Google turned their nose up at autoblogs using their adsense program...but you mix in your own original content?

I haven't mixed in my own content -- yet (for longevity of the site - adding original content is a MUST DO)

I wanted to test their system and see how it works and if it works.

So far the traffic I'm getting is NOT from search engines. The site is too young for that.
I'm pretty sure it hasn't even been indexed yet so the traffic is from the Traffic Nirvana plugin.

I also have a couple other plugins I want to install but not until I finish my experiment.

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Ardoris

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

I haven't mixed in my own content -- yet (for longevity of the site - adding original content is a MUST DO)

I wanted to test their system and see how it works and if it works.

So far the traffic I'm getting is NOT from search engines. The site is too young for that.
I'm pretty sure it hasn't even been indexed yet so the traffic is from the Traffic Nirvana plugin.

I also have a couple other plugins I want to install but not until I finish my experiment.

So...
System's article creator is just article scraper?
I remember video mention retired English Professors tweaking program

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ardoris

So...
System's article creator is just article scraper?
I remember video mention retired English Professors tweaking program

It appears they spun quite a story!

I'm going to make an assumption that they may have had articles made for the ready made blogs.
If you go to Bruce's blog Video Game Shops
You'll see that the articles are by "Admin". So, those articles came with the blog. If you look at my site Solar Power News
Those articles are being posted by their auto content system.
I have no doubt that Bruce's blog will have new content added via their system as well. Its just his blog started with a bunch of articles already installed.

Maybe those are the articles they were talking about - who knows

I know the articles appearing on my site are from article directories or some other type of syndicated content networks. I figured that's what they would use.
It's what happens to those articles behind the scenes in their system that I'm interested in.

They aren't the first marketers (or the last) to spin a colorful BS story to get a sale.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

It appears they spun quite a story!

I'm going to make an assumption that they may have had articles made for the ready made blogs.
If you go to Bruce's blog Video Game Shops
You'll see that the articles are by "Admin". So, those articles came with the blog. If you look at my site Solar Power News
Those articles are being posted by their auto content system.
I have no doubt that Bruce's blog will have new content added via their system as well. Its just his blog started with a bunch of articles already installed.

Maybe those are the articles they were talking about - who knows

I know the articles appearing on my site are from article directories or some other type of syndicated content networks. I figured that's what they would use.
It's what happens to those articles behind the scenes in their system that I'm interested in.

They aren't the first marketers (or the last) to spin a colorful BS story to get a sale.

I noticed on Bruce's Video Game Shops blog, it says:
"Copyright © 2009 · All Rights Reserved · content and design produced by Niche Profit Blogs · Powered by WordPress · Log in"

in the footer

Also, I ran copyscape on the front page (where you'd expect to see the most differences considerng it's bringing in snippets of various articles) and you'll see numerous sites from the link below:
Copyscape search results for: http://videogameshops.biz/

Which are over 90% identical to Bruce's (you have to click on the listings and you'll see the comparisons).

OK, gotta go read my copy of Think And Grow Rich so I can start "believing in the magic" again.

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14 years ago

Bruce - Thank you for posting that!

Here is a good comparison

Bruce has Video Game Shops
I believe that is one of the premade blogs (correct me if I'm wrong Bruce)
All the articles are already there and the layout is complete. He just had to activate the 2 system plugin's and insert his personal Clickbank and Adsense code.

My blog is using their basic blog (I didn't buy any upsells)
Solar Power News
I have a different template and blog started with no articles. The articles will post slowly 1-2 per day and build the site gradually.
When I set up the Adsense for mine I used the plugin they had in the blog but I still had to get full code from my Adsense account and select the sizes I wanted to use. Thats ok for me because I made the link / text / title colors match my site.

Same system - different starting points.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

Bruce - Thank you for posting that!

Here is a good comparison

Bruce has Video Game Shops
I believe that is one of the premade blogs (correct me if I'm wrong Bruce)
All the articles are already there and the layout is complete. He just had to activate the 2 system plugin's and insert his personal Clickbank and Adsense code.

My blog is using their basic blog (I didn't buy any upsells)
Solar Power News
I have a different template and blog started with no articles. The articles will post slowly 1-2 per day and build the site gradually.
When I set up the Adsense for mine I used the plugin they had in the blog but I still had to get full code from my Adsense account and select the sizes I wanted to use. Thats ok for me because I made the link / text / title colors match my site.

Same system - different starting points.

Debbie,

Appreciate the review.

FYI:
Your site articles are written by the system, yes?
I checked your articles on Google and...
Your first article on Google.
Your second article on Google.

Articles on Bruce's site are same.

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

onemorewarrior - I'm unhappy with the system only to the point that its not newbie friendly.
So far I can't complain
Its earned money from Adsense yesterday and now I see income from today.

Ardoris
Good observation about the duplicate content articles but I figured that's what was going to happen. Especially for the premade blogs. You asked if the articles are written by the system... No I doubt it. They appear to be articles such as you would find from an article directory. What directory, I have no idea. Perhaps its their own???

Once again the blog has generated income even though it contains duplicate content and its not been indexed by the search engines.

I don't worry about duplicate content. Its already been established that duplicate content on the same domain is the killer. I've experienced that with my stores.
Duplicate content across assorted domains is not a big problem. If it was a huge problem then news sites that pick up syndicated content would be in trouble. Article directories would be in trouble as blog owners wouldn't use their material.

Having said all that ...

It's narrow minded to think that you can have a high ranking blog with just duplicate content articles anyway. You must have a mix of original material in there somewhere.
But once again this blog isn't ranking in the search engines so the content is a mute point. The important thing to remember is it has earned income in spite of the articles (or maybe because of them) and not being indexed.

Right now I'm creating a different blog. Different topic but set up the same. I'm not going to share the link with you to keep the results pure. I'll compare it to the first blog which is getting "looky lou" traffic from WF.
I'll share the results but not the link - I want to keep it pure.

Lets be realistic - there is no such thing as the perfect system.

There are some things I like about this system - so far. Especially for the $50 investment. But no matter what "system" you use you must have some sound basic knowledge under your belt and the ability to apply that to your blog or what ever site you create.

Lets change the tone of this thread to something positive.
Instead of trying to find out what's wrong with the product, let figure out what's good, what works.

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Greenfatman

14 years ago

ah ah ah ah.... unsubscribing on the way

all guys email me that crap I'll be laughing on them, really...

Long life warrior forum

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14 years ago

Guys, let's just stick to reviewing and providing feedback on the PROGRAM, not feedback on each other. This is not what this place is for. If we wanted this, we can turn on the TV for some MMA or something.

Enough of the name calling and trash talk. It's unprofessional to begin with and it'll just get you guys kicked out of the warrior forum. Not worth it. So either stop it or take it else where.

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14 years ago

Guess what still no response to there OTO offering 10 ready made sites already with traffic and making money not 10 generic blogs nothing....below is the customer service response!

David,

It comes down who has better domain name and keywords.

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David Gange

Posted On: 27 Jul 2011 9:40 AM

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OKay just checked Above the Matrix which is the oto i bought it is diffrent i.e. different background that is it, same story i have 1000 money sites making money i will give you ten of them, they are already getting traffic etc instead we still get 10 generic blogs we have to fight everyone else for....

PLease enlighten to how this is the same offer!!!

David Gange

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 10:54 PM

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Hey? So i bought above the matrix and a different product?!!?!?? Can i have the link to that product as that is what i have bought, I am within my rights I will speak to clickbank otherwise.

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Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 5:11 PM

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David,

That video was not supposed to be there because it's from a different product.

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You are missing the point why on the video does it say you get 10 of our 1000 blogs? I can do it and set it up easily enough, I want to know why when you sau im getting 10 of your vast network of blogs given to me do i find generic blogs everyone gets?!??!?!?

Can you see why im peeved!

Phillip Long

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:45 PM

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Hi David,

We're sorry you feel that way.

The system is very simple enough for every beginner. You just need to enter your Clickbank ID and Adsense Pub ID into the 10 blogs that you purchase. If you feel that's too much work, then this is not for you.

Thank you and good luck,

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Technical Support Manager
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David Gange

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:31 PM

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This is blatent false advertising your video for the $197 clearly states im getting ten of your 1000 sites instead anyone who upgrades just gets access to these 10 blogs! And now i have to upload them and do work WATCH the video, i will be posting and sending y thought to the warrior forum.

Phillip Long

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:20 PM

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David,

The sites are all ready to go LIVE and all you have to do is enter your sub domain if you decide to use one of our 3 domain names. You can also use your own separate domain name if you want to. This is all explained in the training videos.

Everyone will get the same blogs but it all comes down to who has better domain names and keywords.

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Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 12:41 PM

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I have just purchased above the matrix and the addistional 10 websites for $197 the video clearly stated that these were live sites making you money and they would be transfereed to me, now i see they are just templates? I have gone into product catergory are they in there? What details do i need to give you so you can transfer the blog to my details?

From looking at it, these are a series of generic blogs that everyone who upgrades will get and again we have to compte against everyone else maybe im wrong and not looking at the right page please direct me and adress my concerns. I was thinking from the vdeo these blogs are live and you simply transfer them to me?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by gange10

Guess what still no response to there OTO offering 10 ready made sites already with traffic and making money not 10 generic blogs nothing....below is the customer service response!

David,

It comes down who has better domain name and keywords.

Thanks,
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Phillip L.
Technical Support Manager
McReaSoft Solutions Inc.

David Gange

Posted On: 27 Jul 2011 9:40 AM

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OKay just checked Above the Matrix which is the oto i bought it is diffrent i.e. different background that is it, same story i have 1000 money sites making money i will give you ten of them, they are already getting traffic etc instead we still get 10 generic blogs we have to fight everyone else for....

PLease enlighten to how this is the same offer!!!

David Gange

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 10:54 PM

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Hey? So i bought above the matrix and a different product?!!?!?? Can i have the link to that product as that is what i have bought, I am within my rights I will speak to clickbank otherwise.

Phillip Long

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 5:11 PM

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David,

That video was not supposed to be there because it's from a different product.

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Technical Support Manager
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David Gange

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:48 PM

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You are missing the point why on the video does it say you get 10 of our 1000 blogs? I can do it and set it up easily enough, I want to know why when you sau im getting 10 of your vast network of blogs given to me do i find generic blogs everyone gets?!??!?!?

Can you see why im peeved!

Phillip Long

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:45 PM

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Hi David,

We're sorry you feel that way.

The system is very simple enough for every beginner. You just need to enter your Clickbank ID and Adsense Pub ID into the 10 blogs that you purchase. If you feel that's too much work, then this is not for you.

Thank you and good luck,

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Technical Support Manager
McReaSoft Solutions Inc.

David Gange

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:31 PM

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This is blatent false advertising your video for the $197 clearly states im getting ten of your 1000 sites instead anyone who upgrades just gets access to these 10 blogs! And now i have to upload them and do work WATCH the video, i will be posting and sending y thought to the warrior forum.

Phillip Long

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:20 PM

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David,

The sites are all ready to go LIVE and all you have to do is enter your sub domain if you decide to use one of our 3 domain names. You can also use your own separate domain name if you want to. This is all explained in the training videos.

Everyone will get the same blogs but it all comes down to who has better domain names and keywords.

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Phillip L.
Technical Support Manager
McReaSoft Solutions Inc.

David Gange

Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 12:41 PM

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I have just purchased above the matrix and the addistional 10 websites for $197 the video clearly stated that these were live sites making you money and they would be transfereed to me, now i see they are just templates? I have gone into product catergory are they in there? What details do i need to give you so you can transfer the blog to my details?

From looking at it, these are a series of generic blogs that everyone who upgrades will get and again we have to compte against everyone else maybe im wrong and not looking at the right page please direct me and adress my concerns. I was thinking from the vdeo these blogs are live and you simply transfer them to me?

Hi, I had the same problem. I thought they give me 10 of their sites... now way!!! but for now I am testing some pre-made blogs and if I do not make any commissions in 72 hours.... I ask for the refunds.

BTW: the importbuddy.php link was a dead one... ask support and get it in 48 hours... pretty quick I think.

Thanks for all comments here...

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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......
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Allurre

14 years ago

Once again guys. If a product seems too good to be true, it's too good to be true.

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14 years ago

LOL, thanks, Jason. I don't think everyone can pull that off, lol, but good luck when you do.

Followup on the program itself though. Since I didn't receive a refund yet, I had Maria give it another shot. This time I had her try to install the program on one of our empty sites. All seemed to be going okay and then... it just turned blank after about a minute of trying to load.

Please keep in mind my sites are on a dedicated server with some monster capacity, so I know it's nothing to do with my hosting. So maybe it's just not for us. We'll continue to wait for refund. I'll contact ClickBank tomorrow if I don't hear anything back from their support.

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

Kevin

I have a dedicated server as well. I installed on subdomains to experiment.
When I installed my 2 blogs I noticed the installer takes a couple minutes. Then the page refreshes and says its installed.

FYI

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Kevin Lam

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

Kevin

I have a dedicated server as well. I installed on subdomains to experiment.
When I installed my 2 blogs I noticed the installer takes a couple minutes. Then the page refreshes and says its installed.

FYI

Right, problem is, it went blank and it never finished installing. The site still shows errors: http://kvarcapacitor.com/

No worries. Not going to bash my head in over it. I got 1,000 customers to take care of with my new help desk now any how. Thanks.

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Okay, the site works now. We tried it again.

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

Right, problem is, it went blank and it never finished installing. The site still shows errors: http://kvarcapacitor.com/

No worries. Not going to bash my head in over it. I got 1,000 customers to take care of with my new help desk now any how. Thanks.

I guess I got lucky with the installs
Yes I see your install didn't complete.

Their program is not without problems

Looks like this product is going to blow up in their faces.
I was just in their members area and its too bad they aren't doing more to provide damage control.
Perhaps they are inundated with support tickets.
I know they supposedly upgraded their server last night and from personal experience I can tell you those NEVER happen without issues.

Keeping their customers updated by posting in the members area would help tremendously.

In the meantime I'll keep torture testing their system

By the way, I'd use the "wife beater" clothing sparingly on any future videos - LOL

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Kevin Lam

14 years ago

Well, lucky you! LOL. Congrats and may the success continue for you. We win some, we lose some. We just gotta keep moving and finding what truly works for us.

Yes, I will be using it sparingly. I'm moving next week and I will have a dedicated studio, so I'll be more properly dressed. I'll wear coveralls or something.

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14 years ago

Okay, we tried again and the site worked this time. I guess we'll continue testing it too.

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14 years ago

Just when I submitted a note to support to go ahead and not issue the refund yet since they hadn't already and we're running tests... I find out a HUGE flaw in their program that is simply not worth another minute of my time.

By using this program, you will and HAVE TO manually update, modify EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE YOU CREATE INDIVIDUALLY.

That is tedious and BEYOND stupid in terms of automation. I sat and watched as Maria went through the steps, watching the videos and following the instructions word-for-word and still run into problems. This is simply NOT newbie-friendly.

I would not want to enter my affiliate IDs/products into each site individually. What happens when I have to change out an ID? I'd have to go to every single site to update? Oh boy.

I mean, can this program shoot out a decent design... sure. Can it help with SEO... no. Will it do the keyword research automatically for you? No. You'll need to dig that up and manually update the pages/plugins. Will it start doing the marketing on its own right out of the gate? No. You'll have to set that up too.

In case you're wondering if that's possible - YES. We've been working on our system for 10 months. We got about 3 more months before we can release it.

I am not wasting another second on this over-hyped program. Do I expect all that from a $50 product? Of course not. I was just expecting what they claimed to provide... they just failed to mention there's a lot of customization and manual labor on your part.

Even if you purchased the 10 blogs for $197, you still have to install/upload each one AND manually update each one individually. That really defeats the point of this whole thing being "beyond the matrix". It just simply initiates the site installation and setup. You can do that with so many other programs.

Heck, you can upload a template and then utilize some autoblogging program. It's the same thing. Is it anything special or different? No.

Now, if you've got the know-how and the time to dig through and do it all manually for each site - all the power to you. For me, I'd rather spend another 3 months developing my system and building then building a network of 10,000 or so websites in a month on autopilot.

Good luck to all. Especially you, Debbie. Glad to see you're making money with it. It's just not worth it for us here.

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P.S. Why am I worked up about this? Because of the TYPE of product and niche it's in. It's in the affiliate marketing niche. It's in the auto-content generation market. For it to boast this kind of solution, it needs to do it right and what it claims. If it was promoted as a program to help create the initial website so you can add modifications/affiliate ID to each site and setup marketing for each individual site manually, then it needs to be explained as so. Of course, truth like that doesn't sell though.

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14 years ago

Must say I have enjoyed reading all the comments. I never watched the videos or read the copy ...just scanned the headlines and was curious.. So as I often do I checked in the forum.

May even still purchase but it is on the bottom of my list. However based on comments I am now going to watch the videos and examine the sales copy to see what I can learn.

I just want to thank everyone who posted on this topic....the pros ... the cons all was very helpful to me.

Can't wait till Kevin Comes out with his product. Guess I better start saving now

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tadpole88

14 years ago

Here is my quick review:

Did not originally purchase any up-sells but then decided to purchase one pre-made site just to test this products full potential as it was advertised.

Tried several times to upload my blog to one of their server sites with NO luck. Received error message but on my member page it states they were uploaded to their sub-domains but if you click the link it does not work.

Next attempt was to use their service and upload to my server via FTP by giving them access with username password kept receiving error messages that a node was not available.

So I downloaded the file and uploaded it to my server following the directions in the FAQ. This worked fine but some people will have problems if not familiar with this method or not using a service with a cpanel like in the video.

Once I got the site on my server all went pretty smoothly from that point on except for changing the Amazon store front. Nothing was mentioned in the monetization video about the amazon store so you have to create your own at amazon then come back and change the affiliate id. Hopefully Bruce changes this on his Video Gaming Site

Over the last 24 hours my site has pulled 2 articles via and posted over 30 backlinks using the automated services.

I really need to research my site and see if I can determine what keywords this site is trying to rank for because I still do not see how it is going to generate any money without getting to page 1 of the serps.

What I have determined at this point:

- Not newbie friendly
- No customer support
- Many people with identical blogs

They have already started emailing my offers for their other programs for some crazy reason.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by rdbranson

People get upset, including me, because most of us like to be able to believe that promises are kept. Unfortunately, the idea of "my word is my bond" seems to have pretty much disappeared from everybody's thinking.

agreed, i'm not sure that many of today's marketers are getting into the field with that mindset. what they are doing however is substituting that way of thinking with a "guarantee." they're using their guarantee in place of an honest approach. they do this because they know that the metrics work in their favor in so far as only a fraction (maybe 10% tops i'm guessing) will actually take them up on their return/refund policy, as most people will assume it's something they're doing wrong or simply don't want to give up on trying. there's a lot of bs'ers out there, the number seemingly growing rapidly with each passing day. not saying that's exactly what's going on here, but with all i've seen, it unfortunately wouldn't surprise me.

Originally Posted by tadpole88

They have already started emailing my offers for their other programs for some crazy reason.

for some crazy reason...you don't understand why that is??? we are all simply potential sources of revenue to them, nothing more nothing less. since you've already purchased from them you represent the best kind of prospect...one that's already pulled out his/her credit card! and as we all know, it's much easier to sell to someone who's already bought.

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14 years ago

This is horrible probably the worst I have seen. A girl crying who is unemployed and hurting, but sits and home and buys (im) programs? She even says she is sick of sales letters? Does this system while she is watching soap opera's? She does this between the breaks? It's Super easy? Her eyes moving left to right like she is reading?

I can't believe we are at that level. At first the Shady IM'ers tell everyone straight lies then they move to : hey these are not lies trust me, then to: The others are lying to you I am telling the truth to: Everything else sucks I have track record and watch this broke girl cry about it and that makes her real?...

Some people in (the internet marketing Industry) are hitting super lows with products like this. These programs makes the whole industry look bad. Do they not know that if they create great products they will sell themselves.

I was going to buy this particular program to test it 100%, then create a whole website and review it for everyone and then place everybody who is selling it to me through my email on this website to expose it and them to the world, but I can't even give them the dignity to spend my money with them. I wouldn't want my money to make them happy for even a second, before I would refund...

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14 years ago

I just want to add here, as so many others have, my appreciation to all of you who help the rest of us out. Some of us are still working (and doing the work) to learn how to earn money at this - not just spend it.

Folks like Kevin Lam, Debbie Songster and lots of others who are willing to share and help make the journey a lot less painful.

Thanks, all!
Adam

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

I wanted to post an update for you guys who have been following.

First for those of you who bought the 10 packs, I feel for you because that was certainly false advertising.
That OTO said you'd be getting a pkg of 10 from the 1,000 they already had in existence that was making money. What you got was 10 premade blogs to attach to your own domain which are duplicates of the next guys package of 10. Who knows how many of these were sold.
The countdown timer on the OTO page was pretty slick but false advertising. Based on that I'd ask for my money back on those blogs.

Personally I find those blogs too cluttered and distracting to make money. If you think about it, you have to really look for the place to "spend your money" whether it's through adsense or some other product.

On the plus side...

The basic blog does have its merits

The solar power blog I set up has earnings as follows
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 - $3.87
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 - $2.36
Fri, Jul 29, 2011 - $2.98
Sat, Jul 30, 2011 - $2.85

Totals to date $12.06

As you can see it continues to earn money daily - Can't argue with that!

The blog I set up where I didn't share the link with you guys has earnings as follows:

Thu, Jul 28, 2011 - $0.01 This was setup day.
Fri, Jul 29, 2011 - $2.98
Sat, Jul 30, 2011 - $2.85
Totals - $5.84

That blog is in the employment / job niche

I've resisted the urge to add to these blogs. I haven't added any unique content and I haven't done any "in your face" clickbank product advertising.
Its all pretty passive stuff and pretty basic setups.

The backlink plugin is doing its job. Its a unique system that I think will certainly help the blogs. I see value there.

The second blog I built proves to me that the system works. I haven't told anyone where to find that blog and its making money. This leads me to believe that if its tweaked a bit more with some unique content and a few more proper monetization techniques it will be a keeper.

Notice I did different topics. I didn't research them other than I looked at what clickbank had to offer and picked products that had huge gravity numbers and noticed what niche they were in.
I also set them up in subdomains which I like to use vs folders.

Anyway, just thought I'd give an update.

I'll post more information later.

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Brian John

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

The solar power blog I set up has earnings as follows
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 - $3.87
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 - $2.36
Fri, Jul 29, 2011 - $2.98
Sat, Jul 30, 2011 - $2.85

Totals to date $12.06
As you can see it continues to earn money daily - Can't argue with that!
The blog I set up where I didn't share the link with you guys has earnings as follows:

Thu, Jul 28, 2011 - $0.01 This was setup day.
Fri, Jul 29, 2011 - $2.98
Sat, Jul 30, 2011 - $2.85
Totals - $5.84

That blog is in the employment / job niche

deb,
are the numbers above correct or is that a typo? although i really don't understand how the software works, it seems a little odd that each blog earned the exact same amount on both fri and sat as the other.

thnx again for keeping us updated.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by B.J. Johns

deb,
are the numbers above correct or is that a typo? although i really don't understand how the software works, it seems a little odd that each blog earned the exact same amount on both fri and sat as the other.

thnx again for keeping us updated.

Nope -no typo
I noticed that too
I made completely different Adsense ads for each blog

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tadpole88

14 years ago

Debbie,

How do you believe you are getting this traffic?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by tadpole88

Debbie,

How do you believe you are getting this traffic?

The only thing I can think of is through the backlink system & RSS feeds.
If you look at the post Construct Your Own Private Sustainable Energy & Provide Power At Home | Solar Power News
Notice the Related articles and Trackback links.
Those are auto generated by the Traffic Nirvana system.
If you go to one of those links you will see it goes to another blog and a link to my article is on that blog (thereby creating a backlink).
Instead of most blogs showing related articles from within the blog the Traffic Nirvana system appears to use that for the backlinks

The more people (blogs) in the system the better it works.

I noticed this yesterday. I may do a screen capture video to show it. I like the fact that it does this slowly.
So... If we want to be smart, to use this properly we would want to make sure our article titles are keyword specific.
This is another good reason to do unique content.
For right now I'll let the auto content continue to do the posting.

The system also sends an RSS feed to 7 or 8 Aggregators

My google analytics isn't working properly on the newest blog so I can't tell you where exactly the traffic is coming from but my Adsense tells me there have been 340 page views.

I'll let it run a while longer naturally before I experiment with adding components to it.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

The only thing I can think of is through the backlink system & RSS feeds.
If you look at the post Construct Your Own Private Sustainable Energy & Provide Power At Home | Solar Power News
Notice the Related articles and Trackback links.
Those are auto generated by the Traffic Nirvana system.
If you go to one of those links you will see it goes to another blog and a link to my article is on that blog (thereby creating a backlink).
Instead of most blogs showing related articles from within the blog the Traffic Nirvana system appears to use that for the backlinks

The more people (blogs) in the system the better it works.

I noticed this yesterday. I may do a screen capture video to show it. I like the fact that it does this slowly.
So... If we want to be smart, to use this properly we would want to make sure our article titles are keyword specific.
This is another good reason to do unique content.
For right now I'll let the auto content continue to do the posting.

The system also sends an RSS feed to 7 or 8 Aggregators

My google analytics isn't working properly on the newest blog so I can't tell you where exactly the traffic is coming from but my Adsense tells me there have been 340 page views.

I'll let it run a while longer naturally before I experiment with adding components to it.

Hi - just set up a blog yesterday and once I got it all figured out...I think I will like this set up. I did my site in the Antique niche, but the auto posting does not seem to be working. How often are you getting new posts? I ended up putting some PLR articles I had onto the site so it would not be sitting there empty. It does seem to be getting a little bit of traffic - but my Google analytics also does not seem to be reflecting any numbers that are shown in my adsense account. That's interesting!

I also did receive this morning an email from the product owner saying that they were going to be moving to a cloud server and that that would hopefully fix the issues they are having. That email also said that they were really backed up in their support desk by about 48 hours. So...FYI.

I plan on setting up several more sites if I can today - we'll see if their servers are okay for me to do that. Otherwise, the email said that they should have it all straightened out by Tuesday evening.

Oh - Debbie - on the aggregators, there was one that I could not figure out how to sign up? It's the newsisfree.com - were you able to sign up there?

Also - on the Manage links section in the Traffic Nirvana - I have a bunch of links there that say they are "Pending update" - have you touched any of these on your sites?

Thanks for the information and help you have been giving!! It is much appreciated!!

Glenna

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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by GlennaG

Hi - just set up a blog yesterday and once I got it all figured out...I think I will like this set up. I did my site in the Antique niche, but the auto posting does not seem to be working. How often are you getting new posts? I ended up putting some PLR articles I had onto the site so it would not be sitting there empty. It does seem to be getting a little bit of traffic - but my Google analytics also does not seem to be reflecting any numbers that are shown in my adsense account. That's interesting!

I also did receive this morning an email from the product owner saying that they were going to be moving to a cloud server and that that would hopefully fix the issues they are having. That email also said that they were really backed up in their support desk by about 48 hours. So...FYI.

I plan on setting up several more sites if I can today - we'll see if their servers are okay for me to do that. Otherwise, the email said that they should have it all straightened out by Tuesday evening.

Oh - Debbie - on the aggregators, there was one that I could not figure out how to sign up? It's the newsisfree.com - were you able to sign up there?

Also - on the Manage links section in the Traffic Nirvana - I have a bunch of links there that say they are "Pending update" - have you touched any of these on your sites?

Thanks for the information and help you have been giving!! It is much appreciated!!

Glenna

Glenna
There was one aggregator that I couldn't signup for. I think its the newsisfree one.

As for managing links in Nirvana - I don't know what the pending means as I see I have pending updates for articles that already have backlinks. I just left those alone but for any pages like the about me page, demo pages, terms pages, etc I removed them out of the system.

I got the same update email. I think I'm going to just cruise on the sites for the next 48 hrs as I don't anticipate any new material posting until they finish upgrading their servers. I think they got slammed with orders and their system is overloaded.

I did have a look look at the NA Content plug in and as Tadpole88 stated there are users registered in my blog.
I read in the plugin files (located in my blog files) that the system auto creates an account for the "author" then posts the article.
I like this much better than scraping an article off a directory somewhere.
The new user is given "Contributor" level status and we are free to remove users who post inappropriate or unwanted articles.
Course we are free to remove unwanted articles as well.

The more I dive into the 2 plugins in this "system" the more I like what I see.
Unfortunately the creators / owners have terrible instructions posted.

I see Bill made a video & posted it in the members area that talks about how to set up the basic blog. They must have gotten a ton of support tickets about how to work the basic blog.

For the most part this product is not Newbie friendly.

Having said that I'm still going to recommend it to my list but also offer them support because I think there is great potential here - it just needs some support and a little more grease to get it working smoother.

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magentawave

14 years ago

Glenna,

I spoke to the developer of ATN a couple months ago and he said newsisfree no longer works but they haven't removed that yet from ATN. Pending Update is supposed to go away when ATN brings a backlink to that post/page.

Steve

Originally Posted by GlennaG

Oh - Debbie - on the aggregators, there was one that I could not figure out how to sign up? It's the newsisfree.com - were you able to sign up there?

Also - on the Manage links section in the Traffic Nirvana - I have a bunch of links there that say they are "Pending update" - have you touched any of these on your sites?

Glenna

Debbie,

How do you know you have backlinks to those posts/pages that say Pending Update?

Steve

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

Glenna

As for managing links in Nirvana - I don't know what the pending means as I see I have pending updates for articles that already have backlinks. I just left those alone but for any pages like the about me page, demo pages, terms pages, etc I removed them out of the system.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

Debbie,

How do you know you have backlinks to those posts/pages that say Pending Update?

Steve

I'm looking on the non-admin part of the blog
All the "related articles" and "trackbacks" are to other blogs who have posted my article in their "related articles" and "trackbacks" sections - Thats your back link

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magentawave

14 years ago

How many articles so far have the related articles and trackbacks? Just curious because (like I said before) I was never able to get this to work on my sites.

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

I'm looking on the non-admin part of the blog
All the "related articles" and "trackbacks" are to other blogs who have posted my article in their "related articles" and "trackbacks" sections - Thats your back link

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magentawave

14 years ago

This is interesting and thanks for the update. When you click over to the "Manage Links" section for the Auto Traffic Nirvana settings, are you already able to see incoming links to each page/post for these sites? Just asking because after almost two months of using ATN on a bunch of sites, it never showed even one incoming link.

Steve

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

The only thing I can think of is through the backlink system & RSS feeds.
If you look at the post Construct Your Own Private Sustainable Energy & Provide Power At Home | Solar Power News
Notice the Related articles and Trackback links.
Those are auto generated by the Traffic Nirvana system.
If you go to one of those links you will see it goes to another blog and a link to my article is on that blog (thereby creating a backlink).
Instead of most blogs showing related articles from within the blog the Traffic Nirvana system appears to use that for the backlinks

The more people (blogs) in the system the better it works.

I noticed this yesterday. I may do a screen capture video to show it. I like the fact that it does this slowly.
So... If we want to be smart, to use this properly we would want to make sure our article titles are keyword specific.
This is another good reason to do unique content.
For right now I'll let the auto content continue to do the posting.

The system also sends an RSS feed to 7 or 8 Aggregators

My google analytics isn't working properly on the newest blog so I can't tell you where exactly the traffic is coming from but my Adsense tells me there have been 340 page views.

I'll let it run a while longer naturally before I experiment with adding components to it.

Thanks
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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

This is interesting and thanks for the update. When you click over to the "Manage Links" section for the Auto Traffic Nirvana settings, are you already able to see incoming links to each page/post for these sites? Just asking because after almost two months of using ATN on a bunch of sites, it never showed even one incoming link.

Steve

I don't believe you will see anything in the admin of the blog. But like I said above if you go to the article you'll see the "Related Articles" are your backlink sources. If you go to each of those articles you'll find they are on someone else's blog and YOUR article is in their "Related Articles" group (that's your backlink)

I think its kinda clever

Thats why I was saying if you know this you should make your article titles keyword specific. And, its another good reason to add your own unique content.

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tadpole88

14 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

This is interesting and thanks for the update. When you click over to the "Manage Links" section for the Auto Traffic Nirvana settings, are you already able to see incoming links to each page/post for these sites? Just asking because after almost two months of using ATN on a bunch of sites, it never showed even one incoming link.
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Yes when viewing the manage links I have Internal links and External Links showing for the majority of my post. The ones that are not showing are new post and they are pending.

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magentawave

14 years ago

Two questions please...

1) Did ATN come to you as an individual plugin that you could install on as many sites as you want - even sites you created before you bought this package?

2) I just looked at your Solar Power site and was wondering exactly where on your site are the ATN generated outgoing links located?

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Originally Posted by tadpole88

Yes when viewing the manage links I have Internal links and External Links showing for the majority of my post. The ones that are not showing are new post and they are pending.

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tadpole88

14 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

Two questions please...

1) Did ATN come to you as an individual plugin that you could install on as many sites as you want - even sites you created before you bought this package?

It is not an individual plugin but it is included with a generic blog that can be installed on as many sites as you would like. If it continues to work as it has so far I may end up purchasing it at a later day to install on my other sites, but really want to test it on these sites first.

Originally Posted by magentawave

2) I just looked at your Solar Power site and was wondering exactly where on your site are the ATN generated outgoing links located?
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That is not my site but I will answer the question:

View trackbacks here

click on the #1 Home Business Link and then on the page it forwards you to look at the related articles at the bottom of the page and article #6 is a link back to the solar site.

I am assuming that this is the information that was posted by ATN.

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tadpole88

14 years ago

Debbie,

Has your content stopped auto posting? On the pre-made blog I purchased to test this system the auto blogging feature worked great for 2 post and then stopped was wondering if you are experiencing the same thing. I also have over 50 keywords for it to pull articles for because I wanted to ensure that plenty of articles would be available.

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tadpole88

14 years ago

Debbie,
Check your users in the admin and see if you have several names listed there. (Vic Garland, John Schneider and Joshua Sanchez) Is this normal?

I several blogs and one or two others using different auto content systems but none of them are adding users to my wp-admin and I am wondering if this is normal or can you actually post on someones blog without approval.

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coachandy

14 years ago

after a lot of looking. i found out that the cybernitch finder zip should have air on the end not zip this is why you can not install.

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Lorraina 14 years ago

What email do I use to activate my ATN? I've tried the ones from the emails I received...so now I'm not sure where to look! Can anyone help me?
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  What email do I use to activate my ATN? I've tried the ones from the emails I received...so now I'm not sure where to look! Can anyone help me?
  
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Archimedes

14 years ago

Hmmm. I have placed 4 emails and support requests and so far, absolutely ZERO response. I have previously purchased the NFLS product for $500 and it was a decent product (lot of work and very little automation, however). However, I have to say that I have NEVER to date, received any responses from support to my assistance requests. This is the second product I've purchased from Bill McRea, and the support response is the same... ZILCH.

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MarioSotojr

14 years ago

I buy this stuff to see what are people are selling.. I know better but I review this stuff to see if it's worth the investment or not. I skipped the upsells..

When I logged in it's ready made site that pretty much everyone gets.
Then you get options to buy for $49 bucks a piece.. or a bundle of 10 for $197...

I'm lost.. wouldn't this turn into duplicate content if you got a bunch of people using the same thing? Correct me if I'm wrong

ok So I look for the traffic software.. Still searching next

The keyword tool I'll say this it uses credits! huh?
So after you run out of credits you can't use the tool anymore unless.. You Pay for credits! To be honest you can do the same with standard Google keyword tool

MY assessment is refund, You can't make money with ready made sites unless your doing some paid traffic because it's not going to rank naturally.. Funny thing is didn't the sales page say natural, organic traffic?

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gange10 14 years ago

And the software they supply doesnt even come with a password and username three days ive been waiting for a response nothing!
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rushe

14 years ago

The following is a review post I wrote out, on August 1st but didn't have enough posts at the time to get it up.

Thanks for keeping us up to date Debbie.

Both those days having the same amount of earnings seems suspicious and I wonder if it's an indication of any foul play. Perhaps Traffic Nirvana will sometime soon stop working and then your investment is kaput?

I'm still new to Internet Marketing, so I'm wary of things like that. I've already put up two of the provided blogs from the 10 they provide on their upsell and I'm waiting to see if it's worth it to invest in more.

Right now my AdSense account which I hadn't even logged into for months or years shows an estimated earnings of $1.47 and 8 views. It hasn't gone up since midnight last night and the stats in text where I got those figures aren't translating to the graph in AdSense so I'm wondering if any of them are actually valid. Perhaps it's because I never actually made any of my own ads and I only replaced my publisher IDs? I don't know.

I've only been using ATM for less than 24 hours so it looks promising if I actually made $1.47. It will be the first time I ever got money back on my investments in Internet Marketing. I'll be a second case study for you guys and see how it goes.

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For a review:

This really isn't for newbies. The only reason I was able to (as a newb) get these sites running was because I have previous experience building websites and it took me about 2 1/2 hours of work total (with some interruptions) to get the first two sites up. The second site was a snap to get up after I did the first one. If I really applied myself, I could get up 20 of these in a day.

So far, the only thing I'm worried about is how long this will last. If their servers being down is any indication of what to expect in the future from them as a continued customer, then it's not something to take lightly.

As for an update, right now I'm seeing traffic trickle onto my sites, but no new articles or any click conversions. If I don't see some improvement or things actually working the way they're supposed to by the end of the month, I'm definitely refunding.

Current stats:
$1.47 was caused by a friend I asked to click to test it was working.
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I will say that I checked hostgator for where the traffic was coming from, and the majority came from the US. So it might be high quality traffic.

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hangdala

14 years ago

Oh, folks, thanks for the help. This forum is great.

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coachandy

14 years ago

installed on my server no posts yet . Please help.

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freedomguy

14 years ago

Apart from Debbie no one seems to be getting content posts yet! The instructions have been so poor that we've probably missed a tiny little but very important piece of information. Or has the content server stopped working? I raised a support ticket about this a couple of days ago but no reply yet, I gather this is not unusual from this seller.

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coachandy

14 years ago

has any one got the sub domain working? i've tryed 4 and name redgesters but no blog there.

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Lissy

14 years ago

Well, despite all the wonderful sales copy insisting that somehow this product was "different" from all the rubbish out there, I can't say I'm convinced.
Firstly, it was certainly NOT clear from the sales page that the payment was only for a one site licence.
For example:
"Right now, our estimates are that if every person sets up their site properly…
And sets up multiple sites a day…"
"You won’t need that help, but it’s there just in case…
Until your autopilot income is marching armies of dollars steadily into your bank account…
Until you’re debt-free…
Until you’ve replaced your job with purely automated internet income.
We do this for a living, and we’re not going anywhere until you’ve reached that point."
With one site? I don't think so.
But that's just the beginning....
How about:
"When you get behind the wheel of Above the Matrix, open another tab on YouTube.
Play “Stairway to Heaven.”
Click along where we tell you to click with the instructional videos…
If your first autopilot, moneymaking website isn’t completely set up…
And receiving its first visitors…
By the time that song is done…
Send us an email and you’ll get the software for free."
After nearly 3 hours, I had a site up and running on my own web hosting, but I'm just glad I have some experience of WordPress, otherwise I'd still be tearing my hair out. The instructional video was minimal, and that's an understatement.
Not just that, but I STILL can't get the traffic module to acknowledge that I exist. And the info mentioned earlier in the thread still didn't get me in.
Now I move on to the content generator. Well, the information coming through does appear to be in reasonable English. Shame it's got nothing at all to do with any of my keywords. And it's not autoposting either.
In summary, Above The Matrix has just been added to my list of rubbish products that don't come anywhere near to living up to the expectations generated in the sales page.
Oh, and I emailed them pointing all this out - and got no answer.
Refund.
And an email to the person who promoted it to me, telling them it was a load of you know what and that I'm disappointed they recommended such a rotten product.
Unsubscribed.

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rushe

14 years ago

I had to submit a reply to my unanswered support ticket to get a response from them. I also was promised a call from them after calling them - I got none. All that said I requested a refund. Too much money to just sit there and see no real return on. If they hadn't faked scarcity like they did, there wouldn't be a problem with having too much support requests. They shot themselves in the foot. I am only going to stay on his list because sometimes he has good offers on there. Above The Matrix I feel would be excellent if it worked the way it supposed to; but it doesn't and I can't afford that.

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daver99

14 years ago

These guys were flat out deceptive in their sales pitch... if you tell someone you are going to give them 10 existing blogs, with links, and traffic and already making money.... and then you you give them brand new cookie cutter blogs, with no links and traffic you are just ripping people off.

I don't know how you expect to get away with that... perhaps they just don't care.

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coachandy

14 years ago

Just got my refund.

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14 years ago

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GlennaG

14 years ago

Hi -

Just wanted to post an update here...of the 3 sites that I put up, not one has received a post from the auto poster, and none of them have any links back via the AutoTraffic Nirvana plugin. They all have a list of links that are still supposedly pending, but that's it.

True that my support ticket was never answered and I'm not sure I really want to bother submitting another, but perhaps I will as one last attempt to see if this all can finally start working. If not, then a refund request will be made by the end of next week. That will mean I've given it about a month to do SOMETHING!

Glenna

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tadpole88

14 years ago

Started out with all working fine but after 2 weeks of NO autopost or no backlinks I requested and received a refund. Funny I thought the video stated they would not even charge until the end of the 60 days but my account was charged and now has been credited.

Submitted several tickets to support with no answers but received at least 2 emails a day from Bill trying to sell me something else, not a chance.

For those who stick it out good luck!

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Letitia

14 years ago

I installed one of the sites on my hosting.
Their installation wizard worked smoothly after their migration.
Got the software to give a sample article. But no new posts appear.
Clickbank links appear to work. Did not test adsense.

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George Kelly

14 years ago

Out of 10 sites I installed with the system only one of the site's has had a post using the auto poster?

I have submitted 4 support tickets still no reply

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CPAmum

14 years ago

What has me puzzled is why Bill McRea--who appears to be an active member of this forum -- hasn't yet commented in this thread, or elsewhere in this forum, in defense of this program (especially the video that appeared to drastically over promise results).

Or...is it possible that in the world of Internet marketing, no damage control is ever needed because there are always plenty of new prospective customers? (One's reputation doesn't really matter?)

Curioser and curioser...

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magentawave

14 years ago

If you look closely you will see that his posts aren't posts but articles that he probably has one of his staff posting.

Steve

Originally Posted by CPAmum

What has me puzzled is why Bill McRea--who appears to be an active member of this forum -- hasn't yet commented in this thread, or elsewhere in this forum, in defense of this program (especially the video that appeared to drastically over promise results).

Or...is it possible that in the world of Internet marketing, no damage control is ever needed because there are always plenty of new prospective customers? (One's reputation doesn't really matter?)

Curioser and curioser...

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George Kelly

14 years ago

I have asked for a refund as I have now submitted 4 support requests with no answer

All the best
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tadpole88

14 years ago

Debbie,
How are your results using Above the Matrix are you still satisfied or ready to pull the plug like the rest of us have?

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hilmymo 14 years ago

Guys,

Looks like our dreams for a push button software to riches will never be invented haha

Only for the crooks to take advantage of all our greed...

ironically, we keep chasing it!
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Debbie Songster

14 years ago

Time for an update
I've had so many people email me and PM me its time I brought you all up to speed.
Sorry I should have provided an update sooner.

Ok here is whats been happening.

I set that site up July 27 and to date (as of Aug 17) it has earned $28.64
Its had 1516 page views. Thats not unique visitors - only page views.

But...

The auto post feature has not be consistent
Here is the amount of articles posted and the dates they were posted

1- 7/27
2- 7/28
1- 7/29
1- 8/9
1- 8/10
1- 8/11
1- 8/12
1- 8/14
1- 8/15

You'll see its not consistent even though I set it to post unlimited.

Notice the gap between 7-29 and 8-9
On 8-6 I was playing with another auto content plugin that uses RSS feeds
If you go to the site you'll see the posts on the 6th are all from that plugin.

I certainly get lots of auto comments from various people in the comments section. Of course these are all people who are looking to create back links to their own sites.
I've let most of them through - I know what they are all about.
Somehow they know about the articles that the NACP plugin has posted (the few that there are) and do the auto comment thing to get back links for their own sites.

As for my backlinks
The traffic nirvana plug in has stopped working
It only processed 2 of my articles.

This message shows in the plugin admin now
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Auto Traffic Nirvana
Error: Blog not found, or has not been approved, Please check API Key and email and try again. Please get in touch with our support staff if you feel this is an error.
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So the api key it generated for me is not working now. I'll have to log into my account to see whats up.

Other than on the 6th when I played around with another content plugin, I haven't touched this site.

My assessment of the system - not worth the bother.
It's not consistent enough to build more sites with.

As for the system owner - He hasn't missed a beat sending me email after email after email promoting everything that comes along.

This is the part I detest.
I bought a product and subscribed to the "updates". I don't want an email for every friggen thing that comes along.
It's obvious to me that my single optin has been added to his other lists and I've been getting promo's from people I don't recognize. Maybe its not connected but its an odd coincidence that I am getting these extra messages.

So really people it all boils down to this...

There are very few quality shortcuts out there.
Nothing replaces unique articles for content.

I liked what the Traffic Nirvana plugin was doing (briefly) and I think thats a good idea but its useless if it doesn't work.

If you are interested in doing these mini niche sites, I have a group forming where we can work together. PM me if you are interested.

In the meantime if you haven't made any money with this system - go to ClickBank and get a refund. I don't think its worth the time to mess with.

Oh by the way, the second site I built enjoyed about 3-4 days of Above the Matrix "love" and hasn't worked since.

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Profolegy

14 years ago

Here is my update. I requested a refund and got it. It was paid into my paypal account in about 4 days of requesting one. Another to good to be true piece of software.
All the best to everyone.
Cheers Bruce.d.Stewart

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Shemp Hain

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Profolegy

Here is my update. I requested a refund and got it. It was paid into my paypal account in about 4 days of requesting one. Another to good to be true piece of software.
All the best to everyone.
Cheers Bruce.d.Stewart

Why would you believe all of the nonsense hype? The salespage is completely ridiculous. If you get traffic from any of these plugins the visitors will be useless and it won't convert into sales.

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alisa777

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Profolegy

Here is my update. I requested a refund and got it. It was paid into my paypal account in about 4 days of requesting one. Another to good to be true piece of software.
All the best to everyone.
Cheers Bruce.d.Stewart

sorry, overlooked this post when asking you about seo/marketing for the site
built using ATM. But, PR2 ...still wondering

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Gimli

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Debbie Songster

Time for an update
I've had so many people email me and PM me its time I brought you all up to speed.
Sorry I should have provided an update sooner.

Ok here is whats been happening.

I set that site up July 27 and to date (as of Aug 17) it has earned $28.64
Its had 1516 page views. Thats not unique visitors - only page views.

But...

The auto post feature has not be consistent
Here is the amount of articles posted and the dates they were posted

1- 7/27
2- 7/28
1- 7/29
1- 8/9
1- 8/10
1- 8/11
1- 8/12
1- 8/14
1- 8/15

You'll see its not consistent even though I set it to post unlimited.

Notice the gap between 7-29 and 8-9
On 8-6 I was playing with another auto content plugin that uses RSS feeds
If you go to the site you'll see the posts on the 6th are all from that plugin.

I certainly get lots of auto comments from various people in the comments section. Of course these are all people who are looking to create back links to their own sites.
I've let most of them through - I know what they are all about.
Somehow they know about the articles that the NACP plugin has posted (the few that there are) and do the auto comment thing to get back links for their own sites.

As for my backlinks
The traffic nirvana plug in has stopped working
It only processed 2 of my articles.

This message shows in the plugin admin now
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Auto Traffic Nirvana
Error: Blog not found, or has not been approved, Please check API Key and email and try again. Please get in touch with our support staff if you feel this is an error.
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So the api key it generated for me is not working now. I'll have to log into my account to see whats up.

Other than on the 6th when I played around with another content plugin, I haven't touched this site.

My assessment of the system - not worth the bother.
It's not consistent enough to build more sites with.

As for the system owner - He hasn't missed a beat sending me email after email after email promoting everything that comes along.

This is the part I detest.
I bought a product and subscribed to the "updates". I don't want an email for every friggen thing that comes along.
It's obvious to me that my single optin has been added to his other lists and I've been getting promo's from people I don't recognize. Maybe its not connected but its an odd coincidence that I am getting these extra messages.

So really people it all boils down to this...

There are very few quality shortcuts out there.
Nothing replaces unique articles for content.

I liked what the Traffic Nirvana plugin was doing (briefly) and I think thats a good idea but its useless if it doesn't work.

If you are interested in doing these mini niche sites, I have a group forming where we can work together. PM me if you are interested.

In the meantime if you haven't made any money with this system - go to ClickBank and get a refund. I don't think its worth the time to mess with.

Oh by the way, the second site I built enjoyed about 3-4 days of Above the Matrix "love" and hasn't worked since.

And remember what you said about my rant.

"Gimli is talking crap!"

Yeah - Right! Hate to say, "I told you so."

And the support - Ha!

Mcready or whatever his name is abandoned it immediately after the launch. He just made a huge list out of us so that he could spam the living daylights out of our inboxes with pure crap.

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14 years ago

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Poyel

I was searching for WordPress products on Clickbank today and 'Above the Matrix' currently has the highest score for both popularity and gravity.

So apparently it does work!

All the high popularity and gravity means is it sells very well and a lot of affiliates are making sales.

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magentawave

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Poyel

I was searching for WordPress products on Clickbank today and 'Above the Matrix' currently has the highest score for both popularity and gravity.

So apparently it does work!

You mean their sales copy works! Big difference between promises made for how a product works and how many are selling on Clickbank.

As someone who bought ATN and had to refund because it did absolutely nothing in two months but waste my time setting it up on 10 sites and more time wasted monitoring it, its obvious these guys are making a TON of money selling products that do NOT work because:

a) Their sales copy works!
b) In spite of a high percentage of refunds, they know many will forget to refund before Clickbanks 56 day MBG guarantee period ends.

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jdownloads

14 years ago

I just wanted to mention the video game site, looks awfully similar to all the plr blogs you can purchase here on the forum from promo_guy (Scott Inman). Great guy, great blogs.

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kbs

14 years ago

Wanna hear something funny? I got an email today from a Guru and when I opened it up it talked about how someone had a video clip of an average Joe berating "Guru's" for misleading the newbs with flash in the pan software. Any guesses where the link pointed to?

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