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anyone buy ty cohen's kindle cash flow? wondering about the product. big price tag.
#cash #flow #kindle
  • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
    I purchased it, and it is a great product. Lots of good information, and not terribly hard to do as long as you can take action.
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    • Profile picture of the author sanjaysharma
      Originally Posted by dmurphy View Post

      I purchased it, and it is a great product. Lots of good information, and not terribly hard to do as long as you can take action.
      did you have any experience of success with this program.

      ty cohen says that he can make an ebook within hour using PLR but PLR are banned on Kindle. what is your opinion about this.

      sanjay sharma
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      • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
        Originally Posted by sanjaysharma View Post

        did you have any experience of success with this program.

        ty cohen says that he can make an ebook within hour using PLR but PLR are banned on Kindle. what is your opinion about this.

        sanjay sharma
        Well, I would say you can if you're a good, quick writer. It all depends how much you want to focus on quality. I will say, quality always beats quantity. I choose to focus on quality only, so that takes me much longer.
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          • Profile picture of the author JRCarson
            $1,000 bucks? Huh. Enough said.
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            • Profile picture of the author sanjaysharma
              Originally Posted by JRCarson View Post

              $1,000 bucks? Huh. Enough said.
              not only this product has a high price but also there is no refunds for you purchase.
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              • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                Originally Posted by sanjaysharma View Post

                not only this product has a high price but also there is no refunds for you purchase.
                Are you sure about that?

                From what I read, there was a 60 money back guarantee.
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                • Profile picture of the author sanjaysharma
                  Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

                  Are you sure about that?

                  From what I read, there was a 60 money back guarantee.
                  can you give me link because i doesnot see the 60 days money back gurantee.

                  thanks

                  sanjay sharma
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                  • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                    Originally Posted by sanjaysharma View Post

                    can you give me link because i doesnot see the 60 days money back gurantee.

                    thanks

                    sanjay sharma

                    It's in the video, near the end when he's explaining the package. (Around the 90 min mark)

                    (Screenshot attached - I added the yellow highlighting and arrow so you can see where he shows it).
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                    • Profile picture of the author sanjaysharma
                      Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

                      It's in the video, near the end when he's explaining the package. (Around the 90 min mark)

                      (Screenshot attached - I added the yellow highlighting and arrow so you can see where he shows it).
                      thanks it is not written on the sales copy.

                      sanjay sharma
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            • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
              Originally Posted by JRCarson View Post

              $1,000 bucks? Huh. Enough said.
              Nothing wrong with the price, in my opinion. I've seen higher prices for other products. People plunk down 3,000 bucks for one college course that they barely use and never think twice.

              I always ask myself, would I give someone 1k if they could hand me knowledge that will make me significantly more than that? If true, then it becomes an investment that I can focus on getting a return on, not just "$1000 bucks."
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  • Profile picture of the author 1GreatCPA
    I have not purchased it yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author redbaron13
    I listened to Ty's webinar, and then looked at his site with the BIG price tag. Why would someone pay that much money when there is a WSO by Caleb Spilchen for $17 that to me looks like it has just about the same information? The WSO I just looked at even has a lot of videos to go with it. I have not bought it, but I am asking myself if I would rather pay $17 or $1K.... Maybe someone who has bought Ty's product can help the rest of us justify the insane price tag.
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    • Profile picture of the author georgebush
      Originally Posted by redbaron13 View Post

      I listened to Ty's webinar, and then looked at his site with the BIG price tag. Why would someone pay that much money when there is a WSO by Caleb Spilchen for $17 that to me looks like it has just about the same information? The WSO I just looked at even has a lot of videos to go with it. I have not bought it, but I am asking myself if I would rather pay $17 or $1K.... Maybe someone who has bought Ty's product can help the rest of us justify the insane price tag.
      I would be interested in an answer to this as i have attended his webinar too
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    • Profile picture of the author georgebush
      Originally Posted by redbaron13 View Post

      I listened to Ty's webinar, and then looked at his site with the BIG price tag. Why would someone pay that much money when there is a WSO by Caleb Spilchen for $17 that to me looks like it has just about the same information? The WSO I just looked at even has a lot of videos to go with it. I have not bought it, but I am asking myself if I would rather pay $17 or $1K.... Maybe someone who has bought Ty's product can help the rest of us justify the insane price tag.
      thanks very much for your analysis -- i did think this way intuitively and its nice to have someone back that up -- gd job i did not have the 1k to spend!
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  • Profile picture of the author WealthWinners
    I didn't buy the program, but I was able to watch some of the original video that he did when he was showing his stats. He is not doing that on the current webinars. I cannot say if the course is worth it or not, but one thing I can tell you was the boy has VOLUME. I saw his list was over 800 titles. If you have 800 titles, and you sell them at around $8 a piece, the royalties on that is over $35k/mo, and that is if you only sell 1 title per month.

    So if you can hire a ghostwriter to put out some good quality content, it will pay off. He may have some tips and tricks that he shares, but I won't fork out a grand for it. Besides, if he Really wants to help people, he is leaving out the masses of people that would pay a few hundred.
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    • Profile picture of the author billybob
      Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

      ... I saw his list was over 800 titles. If you have 800 titles, and you sell them at around $8 a piece, the royalties on that is over $35k/mo, and that is if you only sell 1 title per month.
      Huh? I think you must have calculated incorrectly. $6400 in sales in a month..... that will not lead to much in royalties, will it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
        Does anyone here know if the latest Amazon crackdown on affiliates in California effects this system? The reason I'm asking here right now is because I don't want to listen to this Webinar tonight at 7:00 if that's the case...

        This is a different aspect so I'm wondering if there would be an issue?

        Thanks for any feedback.
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        • Profile picture of the author MarkTX
          Dean, it's my understanding that the Amazon Affiliate program is totally SEPARATE from the Kindle Direct Publishing side of the house.

          I've read that if you're in a State that bans Amazon Affiliates, this does NOT affect your ability to publish and earn with Kindle publishing.

          Mark
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          • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
            Can someone who has the Kindle cash flow system tell me without going into details if it includes selling Amazon products within the reports and or eBooks?

            Again, the reason I ask is because of the California issue that does not allow the selling of affiliate related Amazon products. I don't want to pony up $997 if that's the case.

            Thank You for any feedback...
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            • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
              Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

              Can someone who has the Kindle cash flow system tell me without going into details if it includes selling Amazon products within the reports and or eBooks?

              Again, the reason I ask is because of the California issue that does not allow the selling of affiliate related Amazon products. I don't want to pony up $997 if that's the case.

              Thank You for any feedback...
              I can't see that it would - but I just ordered mine so it probably won't be here for a week or so (not sure how long it takes coming to Canada).

              I can flag this though in my email to come back and let you know if no one else does once I've had a chance to go over it.

              Amber
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              • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
                Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

                I can't see that it would - but I just ordered mine so it probably won't be here for a week or so (not sure how long it takes coming to Canada).

                I can flag this though in my email to come back and let you know if no one else does once I've had a chance to go over it.

                Amber
                Thank You Amber,

                I'd really appreciate it if you could let me know...

                Cheers,
                Dean
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            • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
              Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

              Can someone who has the Kindle cash flow system tell me without going into details if it includes selling Amazon products within the reports and or eBooks?

              Again, the reason I ask is because of the California issue that does not allow the selling of affiliate related Amazon products. I don't want to pony up $997 if that's the case.

              Thank You for any feedback...
              Hey Dean,

              From what I can recall after going through it, it does not cover this. Even if you can't sell Amazon related products, I couldn't see why you wouldn't be able to focus on another affiliate program.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
                Originally Posted by dmurphy View Post

                Hey Dean,

                From what I can recall after going through it, it does not cover this. Even if you can't sell Amazon related products, I couldn't see why you wouldn't be able to focus on another affiliate program.
                Thanks for letting me know. I decided to pony up the $997 as I take more action on physical courses for some reason...

                Cheers,
                Dean
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                • Profile picture of the author webbie
                  I just listened to the webinar again and Ty specifically states (about 33 to 35 minutes into the program) that you should NOT sell PLR or rehashed content and you should only sell high quality content.

                  He also gives you suggestions on how to get the content created for you - in the free webinar.

                  ...just FYI because I saw a lot of people asking about that.

                  I have not purchased the program.

                  Dave
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                • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
                  Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                  Thanks for letting me know. I decided to pony up the $997 as I take more action on physical courses for some reason...

                  Cheers,
                  Dean
                  Cool, hope to hear later that you're making some money with it!
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                    • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
                      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

                      We'll I purchased the course 3 weeks ago..I have 4 books on kindle and no sales..I don't think this works like stated in the webinar ...I think it takes hundreds of books make any money with this..unless you are a famous writer...I would not waste your money like I did
                      Hey Dumkist,

                      I currently have books that I thought would be good, which aren't as well. I know one of mine will probably sell over 200 copies this month. Be sure to test different things like he mentions in the videos. Not all are going to knock it out of the park.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                        Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

                        We'll I purchased the course 3 weeks ago..I have 4 books on kindle and no sales..I don't think this works like stated in the webinar ...I think it takes hundreds of books make any money with this..unless you are a famous writer...I would not waste your money like I did
                        Originally Posted by dmurphy View Post

                        Hey Dumkist,

                        I currently have books that I thought would be good, which aren't as well. I know one of mine will probably sell over 200 copies this month. Be sure to test different things like he mentions in the videos. Not all are going to knock it out of the park.

                        I'm still waiting on my copy - however, I do have a bit up on Amazon, and can honestly say I agree with dmurphy - some will sell, some won't.

                        Dumkist - I will add this - not everyone will sell instantly. You said you have 4 books up - how long have they been up for? Perhaps you haven't given it enough time to start selling yet?

                        I can't comment on the course yet in case there's something mentioned about how fast you should sell - hopefully my copy will be here any day - but perhaps he covers somethings to help boost your sales?

                        I'd say keep writing and getting stuff out.

                        I think it was TheVA who said they're already earning 5 figures a month - not sure if TheVA will chime in and state about how many books they have up or not, but I wouldn't expect huge numbers from just a few books that you *just* put up.

                        It's a fact that we all want it fast - unfortunately anything truly good and lasting takes some time to develop. Maybe keep adding more topics, and see what you can do to enhance the ones you have? Something will kick in I'm sure.

                        Last week I got a "remittance advice" from Amazon - my first "pay" from them. Kinda funny because I don't have much up - and I haven't pushed anything honestly - but they've been up for almost a year. But they've made sales, completely hands free.

                        I can only imagine how things will pick up when I actually put effort into it (Been too tied up with other things). I have a couple of WSO's coming out within the next week or two (a series), but once I'm done the 'intensive' part of those (creation), my focus will be on Amazon for the new year. Writing has always been one of my favorite pasttimes so I might as well earn from it

                        Hang in there and don't give up.

                        DMurphy - care to share an "approx" $ you're earning each month now? (i.e., a few hundred, a few thousand... ?) Just to help motivate some?

                        Frankly in my opinion, if you even earned $20 - you're ahead, because that should only grow from there.

                        Amber
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                        • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
                          Originally Posted by dimeco View Post


                          DMurphy - care to share an "approx" $ you're earning each month now? (i.e., a few hundred, a few thousand... ?) Just to help motivate some?

                          Frankly in my opinion, if you even earned $20 - you're ahead, because that should only grow from there.

                          Amber
                          Hey there,

                          A few hundred right now, and will definitely be shooting for more. I'm sort of picky about content and I'm tracking everything along the way so I know what works and what may not be as effective.

                          I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's results that is currently using the system or will be soon.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                            Originally Posted by dmurphy View Post

                            Hey there,

                            A few hundred right now, and will definitely be shooting for more. I'm sort of picky about content and I'm tracking everything along the way so I know what works and what may not be as effective.

                            I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's results that is currently using the system or will be soon.
                            Congrats!

                            I'm looking at focusing on mine in January - have some things I'm closing up this month (in addition to a close friend's daughter's wedding Jan 7th, so we're busy with showers etc) - so I figure January will let me go full force.

                            Plus, by that time, hopefully my package will have arrived... oh how I'm impatient sometimes and hate waiting LOL.

                            Amber
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                      • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
                        Originally Posted by dmurphy View Post

                        Hey Dumkist,

                        I currently have books that I thought would be good, which aren't as well. I know one of mine will probably sell over 200 copies this month. Be sure to test different things like he mentions in the videos. Not all are going to knock it out of the park.
                        Can you let us know which niche you're going to sell about 200 copies here or maybe a PM or a link to the Ebook?

                        Still waiting for my course. 4 to 6 weeks means they are being made to order most likely...

                        Pocking around Amazon and I'm simply amazed how how many PLR eBook's are still on there at .99 ! Hundreds of them. I thought Amazon was getting rid of them. The first folks that where doing Kindle could easily get hundreds of eBooks on there that are PLR. What I've noticed is that some PLR eBooks have just been added in the last month or so. I thought Amazon was going flush out PLR eBook and not allow them anymore?

                        To YOUR Success,
                        Dean
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                        • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                          Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                          Can you let us know which niche you're going to sell about 200 copies here or maybe a PM or a link to the Ebook?

                          Still waiting for my course. 4 to 6 weeks means they are being made to order most likely...

                          Pocking around Amazon and I'm simply amazed how how many PLR eBook's are still on there at .99 ! Hundreds of them. I thought Amazon was getting rid of them. The first folks that where doing Kindle could easily get hundreds of eBooks on there that are PLR. What I've noticed is that some PLR eBooks have just been added in the last month or so. I thought Amazon was going flush out PLR eBook and not allow them anymore?

                          To YOUR Success,
                          Dean

                          I would think Amazon simply hasn't caught those ones yet. Or, the author changed *enough* of the content to not seem to be PLR?

                          Amber
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                          • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
                            Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

                            I would think Amazon simply hasn't caught those ones yet. Or, the author changed *enough* of the content to not seem to be PLR?

                            Amber
                            Some have comments like this below.

                            "Aside from the horrific formatting - no spaces between words, ingredients and instructions often listedasonlongwordwithoutspacesorpunctuation...you get the picture..."

                            So most likely they were not formatted properly for Kindle let alone changed. Even the covers are exactly the same.

                            One publisher has about 7 pages of PLR eBooks so it's strange that Amazon would not have noticed. Most are from 2009.

                            I won't post here in the open forum the author because that's someones biz model prior to Amazon cracking down on PLR.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                              Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                              Some have comments like this below.

                              "Aside from the horrific formatting - no spaces between words, ingredients and instructions often listedasonlongwordwithoutspacesorpunctuation...you get the picture..."

                              So most likely they were not formatted properly for Kindle let alone changed. Even the covers are exactly the same.

                              One publisher has about 7 pages of PLR eBooks so it's strange that Amazon would not have noticed. Most are from 2009.

                              I won't post here in the open forum the author because that's someones biz model prior to Amazon cracking down on PLR.

                              Yikes! Definitely surprised they didn't catch it.

                              Sent you a quick PM.

                              Amber
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                    • Profile picture of the author remodeler
                      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

                      We'll I purchased the course 3 weeks ago..I have 4 books on kindle and no sales..I don't think this works like stated in the webinar ...I think it takes hundreds of books make any money with this..unless you are a famous writer...I would not waste your money like I did
                      Have you done any promoting of your books? Do the books have any reviews? What niches are they in?
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
                      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

                      We'll I purchased the course 3 weeks ago..I have 4 books on kindle and no sales..I don't think this works like stated in the webinar ...I think it takes hundreds of books make any money with this..unless you are a famous writer...I would not waste your money like I did
                      Could you let us know which niche the 4 books are in and how long have they been up?

                      Best,
                      Dean
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                      • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
                        Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                        Could you let us know which niche the 4 books are in and how long have they been up?

                        Best,
                        Dean
                        I was just doing an analysis of one of my books and it has been up for 3 months. Another has been up for about 5 months. Two others have been up for only about a month. As far as the niche, they are in various niches!
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                    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
                      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

                      We'll I purchased the course 3 weeks ago..I have 4 books on kindle and no sales..I don't think this works like stated in the webinar ...I think it takes hundreds of books make any money with this..unless you are a famous writer...I would not waste your money like I did
                      Hmmmm, I'm calling BS on your post. Unless you can name some of the KEY things to make this work that he mentioned in his course that you've actually done, I think you're just writing an opinion based on nothing. And yes, you can name some of them here since he did name some in his free webinar.

                      I'll name two for you: a) Your title b) Your keyword research based on a very specific range of monthly searches (can you name it?). Those are both essential for making this work. What are a couple more? Otherwise I don't find you credible.

                      And 3 weeks and you're already giving it the thumbs down? Gimme a break. Like it's already mentioned in this thread there's a 4-6 week delivery time. Hmmmm.........

                      RoD

                      Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                      Can you let us know which niche you're going to sell about 200 copies here or maybe a PM or a link to the Ebook?

                      Still waiting for my course. 4 to 6 weeks means they are being made to order most likely...

                      Pocking around Amazon and I'm simply amazed how how many PLR eBook's are still on there at .99 ! Hundreds of them. I thought Amazon was getting rid of them. The first folks that where doing Kindle could easily get hundreds of eBooks on there that are PLR. What I've noticed is that some PLR eBooks have just been added in the last month or so. I thought Amazon was going flush out PLR eBook and not allow them anymore?

                      To YOUR Success,
                      Dean
                      Dean,

                      I was told by an Amazon rep that they are "working on it". There's a lot of crap they have to review. A LOT of it. They're also doing a better job of approving people's content. So it's going to be awhile before they get rid of the PLR junk that's in there.

                      RoD
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                      • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
                        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

                        Hmmmm, I'm calling BS on your post. Unless you can name some of the KEY things to make this work that he mentioned in his course that you've actually done, I think you're just writing an opinion based on nothing. And yes, you can name some of them here since he did name some in his free webinar.

                        I'll name two for you: a) Your title b) Your keyword research based on a very specific range of monthly searches (can you name it?). Those are both essential for making this work. What are a couple more? Otherwise I don't find you credible.

                        And 3 weeks and you're already giving it the thumbs down? Gimme a break. Like it's already mentioned in this thread there's a 4-6 week delivery time. Hmmmm.........

                        RoD

                        Dean,

                        I was told by an Amazon rep that they are "working on it". There's a lot of crap they have to review. A LOT of it. They're also doing a better job of approving people's content. So it's going to be awhile before they get rid of the PLR junk that's in there.

                        RoD
                        Thanks for your innput Rod,

                        Can you tell me if CD #8 works for you? DISK 8 - Your Formatting,Hiring and Success Templates.

                        Or anyone that has received the Kindle Cash Flow course?

                        I don't see anything coming up. It's one of the MOST important CD's. Is there a certain trick to get it up with Windows Media Player? That's what I've been using. And how would one print the templates out???

                        I'd really appreciate any help on getting it up. I know I'm a tech dummy but come on...

                        Anyone?

                        Thanks,
                        Dean
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                        • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                          Hi Dean,

                          I don't have mine yet, so I can't answer on the disk working or not yet - but do you mind telling me how long it took to get yours in the mail?

                          Not sure if its sent by regular mail or courier?

                          Amber


                          Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                          Thanks for your innput Rod,

                          Can you tell me if CD #8 works for you? DISK 8 - Your Formatting,Hiring and Success Templates.

                          Or anyone that has received the Kindle Cash Flow course?

                          I don't see anything coming up. It's one of the MOST important CD's. Is there a certain trick to get it up with Windows Media Player? That's what I've been using. And how would one print the templates out???

                          I'd really appreciate any help on getting it up. I know I'm a tech dummy but come on...

                          Anyone?

                          Thanks,
                          Dean
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                          • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
                            Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

                            Hi Dean,

                            I don't have mine yet, so I can't answer on the disk working or not yet - but do you mind telling me how long it took to get yours in the mail?

                            Not sure if its sent by regular mail or courier?

                            Amber
                            It took about 7-10 days. Don't remember exactly when I purchased but I got it on Dec. 7th. regular mail...

                            I can't proceed without that 8th disk. It's a bummer to say the least.

                            Maybe let me know when you get yours...

                            Dean
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                            • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                              Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                              It took about 7-10 days. Don't remember exactly when I purchased but I got it on Dec. 7th. regular mail...

                              I can't proceed without that 8th disk. It's a bummer to say the least.

                              Maybe let me know when you get yours...

                              Dean
                              Yep - will do. I ordered it over a week ago, I think it was going out on the 2nd, so I'm guessing then it should be here sometime this week. I'll let you know when it arrives.

                              Did you send a message to Ty about it?

                              Amber
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                        • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
                          Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                          Thanks for your innput Rod,

                          Can you tell me if CD #8 works for you? DISK 8 - Your Formatting,Hiring and Success Templates.

                          Or anyone that has received the Kindle Cash Flow course?

                          I don't see anything coming up. It's one of the MOST important CD's. Is there a certain trick to get it up with Windows Media Player? That's what I've been using. And how would one print the templates out???

                          I'd really appreciate any help on getting it up. I know I'm a tech dummy but come on...

                          Anyone?

                          Thanks,
                          Dean
                          Hey Dean,

                          Mine worked great, although I think the autorun had some issues on one of mine. Can you go to My Computer and just try to browse it that way?

                          Dan
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                          • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
                            Originally Posted by dmurphy View Post

                            Hey Dean,

                            Mine worked great, although I think the autorun had some issues on one of mine. Can you go to My Computer and just try to browse it that way?

                            Dan
                            Thank You Dan!

                            You da man!!!

                            That worked just fine...

                            To YOUR Success,
                            Dean Shainin
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                            • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
                              Glad I could help!

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                              Thank You Dan!

                              You da man!!!

                              That worked just fine...

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                        • Profile picture of the author Silverlight
                          Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

                          Thanks for your innput Rod,

                          Can you tell me if CD #8 works for you? DISK 8 - Your Formatting,Hiring and Success Templates.

                          Or anyone that has received the Kindle Cash Flow course?

                          I don't see anything coming up. It's one of the MOST important CD's. Is there a certain trick to get it up with Windows Media Player? That's what I've been using. And how would one print the templates out???

                          I'd really appreciate any help on getting it up. I know I'm a tech dummy but come on...

                          Anyone?

                          Thanks,
                          Dean
                          run it as is....? Mine just defaults to a camtasia player, maybe because I have comatasia? Try VLC as well.
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            • Profile picture of the author los s
              The course is legit! Ty is coming out with another part on how to get into apple and barnes and noble and its free if you purchased the original course.
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              • Profile picture of the author macmani
                I am getting kindle payments from a few months and I am in India, not US. They are not deducting the 30%, dont know why? Is there some minimum threshold before they start deducting??
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              • Profile picture of the author rchudej1
                Originally Posted by los s View Post

                The course is legit! Ty is coming out with another part on how to get into apple and barnes and noble and its free if you purchased the original course.
                Have you purchase this course? I did but never received any info about this.

                Where is the added Apple and Barnes & Noble info?

                Thanks,
                Mike Chudej
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    • Profile picture of the author Focused Action
      Originally Posted by WealthWinners View Post

      I didn't buy the program, but I was able to watch some of the original video that he did when he was showing his stats. He is not doing that on the current webinars. I cannot say if the course is worth it or not, but one thing I can tell you was the boy has VOLUME. I saw his list was over 800 titles. If you have 800 titles, and you sell them at around $8 a piece, the royalties on that is over $35k/mo, and that is if you only sell 1 title per month.

      So if you can hire a ghostwriter to put out some good quality content, it will pay off. He may have some tips and tricks that he shares, but I won't fork out a grand for it. Besides, if he Really wants to help people, he is leaving out the masses of people that would pay a few hundred.
      If you sold 1 each of 800 titles and you received the sales price of $8 that is only $6400 (i say only to compare to your computation of $35K/month plus you don't receive the whole sales price as a royalty).
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      • Profile picture of the author milla04
        Originally Posted by Focused Action View Post

        If you sold 1 each of 800 titles and you received the sales price of $8 that is only $6400 (i say only to compare to your computation of $35K/month plus you don't receive the whole sales price as a royalty).

        Actually if you are a non U.S person your royalties earnings will be reduced even lower, by 30% tax with-holdings. So, whatever figures you work out, deduct 30% from that. I have found none of these course explain this until you get a cheque and half of the profit is gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author colinph970
    I would stay well away from PLR and any thoughts about trying to rewrite it and sell it on the Kindle. The best way forward is to create quality content and price it to offer real value to the reader.
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    • Profile picture of the author macmani
      I bought this course and its a great course. Ty explains everything in detail about publishing on kindle and if you follow you are sure to make money. I am going through it now. There is a ton of information on the CDs.
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      • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
        Originally Posted by macmani View Post

        I bought this course and its a great course. Ty explains everything in detail about publishing on kindle and if you follow you are sure to make money. I am going through it now. There is a ton of information on the CDs.
        It will definitely take you some time to go through, but well worth it!
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    • Profile picture of the author celestrist
      Originally Posted by colinph970 View Post

      I would stay well away from PLR and any thoughts about trying to rewrite it and sell it on the Kindle. The best way forward is to create quality content and price it to offer real value to the reader.
      101% agree with you.
      All of my PLR books sold on the Kindle were deleted overnight.
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      • Profile picture of the author macmani
        We should not upload PLR to kindle. The kindle cash flow teaches how to avoid the kindle slap. There are other ways to publish than using PLR.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
    I noticed that there were some books I was looking at as far as ideas (people already published them), and they looked to be PLR material. Later, when going back to look at them again, they were gone. It was for more than one. I think Amazon is really cracking down on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author macmani
      So Dmurphy

      I think you bough the course before me. Have you gone through all the videos? What is taught in that. I just saw the webinar, but have to go through the whole course as I got it just 2-3 days back. Does he tell how to produce quality unique material and other things. Are you making any money or published any books after learning the course.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
    I've gone though everything. He teaches you everything you need to do and everything you need to know. Go through everything. Some things have changed just slightly since I got them (Amazon has been making some changes to combat junk, a good thing) but it's nothing major. And yes, I have published books, and am making a few bucks. Not 15k a month, but on the way.

    It takes time to create good content!
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    • Profile picture of the author macmani
      thanks Dmurphy:

      So you are rewriting PLR or using other methods like getting fresh books written or yourself writing, just asking. I think rewriting PLR is also risky. ANyways, I will look at the CDs tomorrow.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
      Can someone pm me the link to review? I can't seem to find it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
        Does anyone know if they have a support desk?

        I've submitted a pre-sales question twice to their "support" email, but have had no responses, figured perhaps a direct support desk would be better.

        Amber
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        • Profile picture of the author macmani
          Hello Dimeco:

          Try this email: Support@IBeMarketing.com

          I bought the kindle cash flow a month back. gone though the course. It ships on 9 VCDs. Its a great course to learn to publish on kindle. I am about to publish 3 titles shortly. Have to see how it goes. You will learn a ton of information on how to publish, how to research titles, how to price, what sells best, etc. Amazing course really. One advice, write ebook yourself or get it written, dont use PLR. Amazon does not like it. If you need further info, PM me or post a reply.
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          • Profile picture of the author macmani
            Kindle is an excellent platform to publish and many are making a killing on it. Most books on how to subject sells well. Short 20-25 page reports can be sold well also. That's what I am trying to do now. Since you already have many books published, transition to kindle should be quite easy. However, taking this course, which is a little costly, about 1000 bucks, will help though in your kindle career. You can get lot of tips here. you can sell from 20 pages to even 100.
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            • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
              Originally Posted by macmani View Post

              Kindle is an excellent platform to publish and many are making a killing on it. Most books on how to subject sells well. Short 20-25 page reports can be sold well also. That's what I am trying to do now. Since you already have many books published, transition to kindle should be quite easy. However, taking this course, which is a little costly, about 1000 bucks, will help though in your kindle career. You can get lot of tips here. you can sell from 20 pages to even 100.

              Thanks. Do you know how long the course is?

              (# of dvds, # of hours?)
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              • Profile picture of the author macmani
                the course comes with 7 VCDs and one audio CD and a CD with sample agreements. The total course audio is between 4 to 5 hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author trooper19403
    Well I just received the course and I will be looking at it over the next few days to determine if there is any NEW real value here or if it is just a re-hashing of material from other courses (which much of this stuff is in many cases).

    I will also compare it to Kindle Cash Craze 2.0 which I also purchased for $17.00 to see if there is any similarities other than the typical how to create an account & upload to again see if there is any REAL VALUE. I figure in comparing the two, there ought to be a SIGNIFICANTLY more amount of detail, secrets, grand pooba wizbangs or something that is worth $1000.00 (when you include freight) - right? and it should really stand out as a game changer for that price difference - right?

    So after I view each one and compare them...then I will be testing the "money back guarantee" of one of them - afterall there's has to be a loser.

    I have bookmarked this page so I will report my findings here in about a couple of weeks. I agree with pearsonbrown regarding legitimate reviews as there is just too much rhetoric here when these so called "new courses" pop out.
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  • Profile picture of the author trooper19403
    Kindle Cash Flow vs. Kindle Craze 2.0

    Subject Matter (Chapters)

    Subject Matter
    Intro/Overview/Account Set Up (Both have)
    Research/Hot Topics/Title/Description (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
    Content/PLR (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
    Ghostwriting/Outsourcing-good & bad (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
    PLR-the good, the bad & the ugly (Both have)
    Book Cover (How to & etc.)(Both have)
    Uploading Book (Both have)
    Templates (Both have)

    Well I'm back (unlike many on here whom have stated they would review something and never post their reviews). First of all let me tell you that I first went through the Kindle Cash Flow video series first. It was very well done in that it was organized, easy to watch, the dialog was cohesive and verbally flowed well - a "system" as he likes to refer to it as. The Kindle Craze 2.0 video series was less organized; the dialog was hard to stay focused as I found my mind wondering because of the presenter's command of the English language (not that it was extremely bad or anything like that..it was just not as captivating from a standpoint of verbally flowing well). The question is; does this "system" warrant or provide $980.00 more value?

    So, as such, that has some value associated to it. However in the Kindle Craze 2.0, they covered marketing of your books and provided several tips on other things; for example what I will call a fourth source for content which no mention is even made of in the Kindle Cash Flow series (something the proclaimed "Kindle Cash King" should have included in his series costing what it costs). The question is; how can a SIGNIFICANTLY higher price be justified for the Kindle Cash Flow "system"?

    Before going further, I will tell you that about 6 weeks ago I spent about 2 hours and 40 minutes watching a replay of a webinar (a webinar which cost me nothing to view); where ALL this Kindle info plus a few tips were presented exactly the same as both these series from a Ryan Deiss associate ...and in addition many of the things discussed within each series in re-hashed stuff we all already know from other courses we have purchased in the past...so I did not view this as GAME CHANGING original thought or information (there are a few nuggets, but they are NOT diamonds nor game changers).

    I can go back and forth here doing an in depth comparison, however the question that really need answering is the question of VALUE; something I have a huge background in determining having been a Purchasing Manager in my day for several companies; a couple of Fortune 500 companies no less.

    So value... here we have one series at $17.00 (download delivery) vs another at $997.00 (plus shipping)...well there is some value right there. Now in purchasing, we would get 3 -5 bids on an item; 5 being better as it gives you a better read. In that case we would throw out the cheapest because there just cant be value there (just ask yourself.. you want it...how cheap? which goes with you want it...how bad? because cheap = bad...and I'm NOT saying the Kindle Craze 2.0 series is a bad series because it isn't bad at all). Secondly, we would throw out the highest bid as it was obvious the person did not know the market and was figuring they should be rewarded by the inexperienced buyer (caveat emptor) as a penalty for the buyer not knowing his market either. Value is what gives a product sustaining power year after year.

    However....I must quote the author here - by his own words, "The value that you have has to FAR OUTWEIGH the asking price" (his own statement on a video entitled "The #1 mistake most writers make") in the series. Perhaps in his mind the video series does just that BUT, the value that is being discussed is the VALUE perceived by the receiving party; NOT the other way around because that is how a market is determined as IT MUST BE WIN-WIN or someone feels cheated.

    So with that said and getting back to our purchasing 101 lesson, you have probably already figured out that the price for the Kindle Cash Flow series should be somewhere in between the cheap $17.00 and the out of the ballpark price of $997.00...say somewhere in the range of $197.00 to $297.00 maybe $397.00 with more content.

    Game Changer? - NOT...and that is what I stated from the very beginning that this product needed to be to JUSTIFY it's price (but how would you know until you bought it and had something to compare it to..that's been done now)

    $197.00 - $297.00 - Acceptable asking price with respect to VALUE (Remember value is not only what is included information wise but also how it is presented and the ease to follow along)

    Greater than $297.00 - Ask for that 30 Day Refund... which is the next test to be reported on here as to whether or not the 30 day Money Back No Questions Asked Refund works...I am sure you all will want to know that too since there has been alot of discussion regarding it in this thread.

    **Please understand this is not meant to be taken as an affront to anyone, but rather just my opinion as to the VALUE of one product compared to a similar product.
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    • Profile picture of the author sanjaysharma
      Originally Posted by trooper19403 View Post

      Kindle Cash Flow vs. Kindle Craze 2.0

      Subject Matter (Chapters)

      Subject Matter
      Intro/Overview/Account Set Up (Both have)
      Research/Hot Topics/Title/Description (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
      Content/PLR (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
      Ghostwriting/Outsourcing-good & bad (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
      PLR-the good, the bad & the ugly (Both have)
      Book Cover (How to & etc.)(Both have)
      Uploading Book (Both have)
      Templates (Both have)

      Well I'm back (unlike many on here whom have stated they would review something and never post their reviews). First of all let me tell you that I first went through the Kindle Cash Flow video series first. It was very well done in that it was organized, easy to watch, the dialog was cohesive and verbally flowed well - a "system" as he likes to refer to it as. The Kindle Craze 2.0 video series was less organized; the dialog was hard to stay focused as I found my mind wondering because of the presenter's command of the English language (not that it was extremely bad or anything like that..it was just not as captivating from a standpoint of verbally flowing well). The question is; does this "system" warrant or provide $980.00 more value?

      So, as such, that has some value associated to it. However in the Kindle Craze 2.0, they covered marketing of your books and provided several tips on other things; for example what I will call a fourth source for content which no mention is even made of in the Kindle Cash Flow series (something the proclaimed "Kindle Cash King" should have included in his series costing what it costs). The question is; how can a SIGNIFICANTLY higher price be justified for the Kindle Cash Flow "system"?

      Before going further, I will tell you that about 6 weeks ago I spent about 2 hours and 40 minutes watching a replay of a webinar (a webinar which cost me nothing to view); where ALL this Kindle info plus a few tips were presented exactly the same as both these series from a Ryan Deiss associate ...and in addition many of the things discussed within each series in re-hashed stuff we all already know from other courses we have purchased in the past...so I did not view this as GAME CHANGING original thought or information (there are a few nuggets, but they are NOT diamonds nor game changers).

      I can go back and forth here doing an in depth comparison, however the question that really need answering is the question of VALUE; something I have a huge background in determining having been a Purchasing Manager in my day for several companies; a couple of Fortune 500 companies no less.

      So value... here we have one series at $17.00 (download delivery) vs another at $997.00 (plus shipping)...well there is some value right there. Now in purchasing, we would get 3 -5 bids on an item; 5 being better as it gives you a better read. In that case we would throw out the cheapest because there just cant be value there (just ask yourself.. you want it...how cheap? which goes with you want it...how bad? because cheap = bad...and I'm NOT saying the Kindle Craze 2.0 series is a bad series because it isn't bad at all). Secondly, we would throw out the highest bid as it was obvious the person did not know the market and was figuring they should be rewarded by the inexperienced buyer (caveat emptor) as a penalty for the buyer not knowing his market either. Value is what gives a product sustaining power year after year.

      However....I must quote the author here - by his own words, "The value that you have has to FAR OUTWEIGH the asking price" (his own statement on a video entitled "The #1 mistake most writers make") in the series. Perhaps in his mind the video series does just that BUT, the value that is being discussed is the VALUE perceived by the receiving party; NOT the other way around because that is how a market is determined as IT MUST BE WIN-WIN or someone feels cheated.

      So with that said and getting back to our purchasing 101 lesson, you have probably already figured out that the price for the Kindle Cash Flow series should be somewhere in between the cheap $17.00 and the out of the ballpark price of $997.00...say somewhere in the range of $197.00 to $297.00 maybe $397.00 with more content.

      Game Changer? - NOT...and that is what I stated from the very beginning that this product needed to be to JUSTIFY it's price (but how would you know until you bought it and had something to compare it to..that's been done now)

      $197.00 - $297.00 - Acceptable asking price with respect to VALUE (Remember value is not only what is included information wise but also how it is presented and the ease to follow along)

      Greater than $297.00 - Ask for that 30 Day Refund... which is the next test to be reported on here as to whether or not the 30 day Money Back No Questions Asked Refund works...I am sure you all will want to know that too since there has been alot of discussion regarding it in this thread.

      **Please understand this is not meant to be taken as an affront to anyone, but rather just my opinion as to the VALUE of one product compared to a similar product.
      thanks for coming here and posting your review but did not understand clearly what you are trying to say (sorry about this may be i do not have sharp mind) can you tell me in simple words that what is your opinion about this course. do you think that you are able to make more than $3000 per month by going through this course. in other words is that possible to make good money by going through this course.


      sanjay sharma
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      • Profile picture of the author trooper19403
        Originally Posted by sanjaysharma View Post

        thanks for coming here and posting your review but did not understand clearly what you are trying to say (sorry about this may be i do not have sharp mind) can you tell me in simple words that what is your opinion about this course. do you think that you are able to make more than $3000 per month by going through this course. in other words is that possible to make good money by going through this course.


        sanjay sharma
        Sanjay,

        My review was to determine whether or not the Kindle Cash Flow course provided much more value for the price of $997 compared to the value provided by the Kindle Craze 2.0 course and in my analysis, it did not. I mentioned what I felt was a reasonable price based upon several factors; those being how well the information was presented, the ease to watch and listen to, the ability to follow along, the interest captivation of the information and its presentation style as a step-by-step system ..all of which provides a degree of value. HOWEVER the information presented was NOT a GAME CHANGER meaning the information did not provide anything new to the subject matter that would be EXTREMELY beneficial to the end user of the course.

        As to your question of being able to make more than $3000.00 per month by using the course...well that depends entirely on you and the amount of effort you put forth along with how well you can promote your material through the internet. These are factors only you have control over to some degree which is also affected by how well you will understand the material provided and how creative you are as an individual.

        So basically it is your decision if you want to spend $997 or $17.00 for basically, the SAME information. That decision should be a no-brainer to/for you.

        Good Luck and Regards
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        • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
          Originally Posted by trooper19403 View Post

          HOWEVER the information presented was NOT a GAME CHANGER meaning the information did not provide anything new to the subject matter that would be EXTREMELY beneficial to the end user of the course.
          What technique is he teaching in Kindle Cash Flow? Rewriting PLR or the outsourcing method where other people write bits and pieces of content and you assemble it?
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          • Profile picture of the author trooper19403
            Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

            What technique is he teaching in Kindle Cash Flow? Rewriting PLR or the outsourcing method where other people write bits and pieces of content and you assemble it?
            You hit the nail on the head Jesus. Of course there is more info like reports should be 30 - 40 pages and ebooks 80 - 120 pages or so and other little things which, in my mind doesn't add up to a $997.00 value.
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      • Profile picture of the author Big Daddy
        Thank you for the review and purchasing lesson. The fact that you took the time to report back says a lot about you and is appreciated.
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        • Profile picture of the author Big Daddy
          Trooper, Thank you for the review and purchasing lesson. The fact that you took the time to report back says a lot about you and is appreciated.
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          • Profile picture of the author trooper19403
            Originally Posted by Big Daddy View Post

            Trooper, Thank you for the review and purchasing lesson. The fact that you took the time to report back says a lot about you and is appreciated.
            You are welcome...I hope it helped you to make an informed decision if anything.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheVA
        Originally Posted by sanjaysharma View Post

        thanks for coming here and posting your review but did not understand clearly what you are trying to say (sorry about this may be i do not have sharp mind) can you tell me in simple words that what is your opinion about this course. do you think that you are able to make more than $3000 per month by going through this course. in other words is that possible to make good money by going through this course.


        sanjay sharma


        Sanjay I would have to agree with some of the other posters who brought the course, because I would say that it is definitely worth the price.

        I brought the program back when it first came on the market.

        All in all I look at it this way you get what you pay for, I have purchased both programs as well as many other low and high ticket courses and very few come close to
        the Kindle Cash Flow. There is no comparison in fact I would go as far as to say that its like comparing a Volkswagen to a Benz. Ty knows his stuff, he's had incredible results and it shows in his training. I've always approached things from the standpoint of looking to learn from the best. Do you want to learn how to make thousands of dollars with amazon from a $17.00 ebook or from someone who actually does it every month.

        For me one of the other benefits to having the Kindle Cash Flow program is the continued support from Ty. He is open and responsive to my questions and always keeps his customers up to date on what is currently working and not working with Amazon. That type of continued hand holding support for me is something else that made the kindle cash flow course a good investment.

        So in short, have had more than satisfactory results to the point that it was a big investment, but I've made it back many, many times over.

        JMO
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        • Profile picture of the author macmani
          Hello TheVA:

          I also bought Tys course and am about to put it into action. How is it going for you? Are you making good money? What kind of reports are you publishing into kindle? I also finished seeing all videos and its a great course with a ton of information.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheVA
            Yes macmani I purchased Tys kindle cash flow months ago and at this point I am making a healthy 5 figures a month. Its kind of ironic that I am just seeing your reply now because I just received my
            monthly payment from amazon. I have all of the reports, wsos and ebooks on kindlre but i would still have to say that the way ty presents his set of systems is what really makes it worth it. I also geya lot out of the clearity and positive mindset that he shares in the program. As Tony Robbins says when you want the best make it a point to learn from the best. You can't be cheap when it comes to learning from the best and when it comes to making Kindle work Ty is the besy. I have brought everything on the subject and nothng else has made me money except this program.

            Originally Posted by macmani View Post

            Hello TheVA
            I also bought Tys course and am aboutt to put it into action. How is it going for you? Are you making good money? What kind of reports are you publishing into kindle? I also finished seeing all videos and its a great course with a ton of information.
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            • Profile picture of the author Silverlight
              Originally Posted by TheVA View Post

              Yes macmani I purchased Tys kindle cash flow months ago and at this point I am making a healthy 5 figures a month. Its kind of ironic that I am just seeing your reply now because I just received my
              monthly payment from amazon. I have all of the reports, wsos and ebooks on kindlre but i would still have to say that the way ty presents his set of systems is what really makes it worth it. I also geya lot out of the clearity and positive mindset that he shares in the program. As Tony Robbins says when you want the best make it a point to learn from the best. You can't be cheap when it comes to learning from the best and when it comes to making Kindle work Ty is the besy. I have brought everything on the subject and nothng else has made me money except this program.
              I just bought Ty's Kindle Cash flow watched all the videos, was about to have a va write the first book, then got thinking about success rates, and if my money is best placed into these books or elsewhere. Maybe its something I should have thought of sooner but then I turned back to disc 2 where he showed his earnings, but I was looking at the amount of titles he had... 700+

              Noq im discouraged to do anything.... can you (TheVA) or anyone vouch even further about their success? Did your succes only come from the PLR or are you actively making them and seeing sizable returns? I would greatly appreciate it. PM me if needed id be more than happy to have a phone convo on this...
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              • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
                Originally Posted by Silverlight View Post

                I just bought Ty's Kindle Cash flow watched all the videos, was about to have a va write the first book, then got thinking about success rates, and if my money is best placed into these books or elsewhere. Maybe its something I should have thought of sooner but then I turned back to disc 2 where he showed his earnings, but I was looking at the amount of titles he had... 700+

                Noq im discouraged to do anything.... can you (TheVA) or anyone vouch even further about their success? Did your succes only come from the PLR or are you actively making them and seeing sizable returns? I would greatly appreciate it. PM me if needed id be more than happy to have a phone convo on this...

                Hi Silverlight,

                I would suggest you review a few things. I have Ty's course - I'm on video 7 but haven't had a chance to finish yet (working on something first) - then I'll be finishing myself.

                However - there's a WSo that totally compliments this and I woudl suggest it - http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-training.html - its NOT an affiliate link, but he talks about PLR etc. and that you shouldn't need 700 books.

                btw - by that I mean, you're best to read a combination of things and do what works best for you. You shouldn't have to put THAT many out.
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                • Profile picture of the author Silverlight
                  Iv also looked at a few other things, including the Amazon Cash Machines, but they just seem to take a number of different approaches with the ebooks such as building a site for it etc... not to special. I just got the kindling and hes delivered some great nuggets already I appreciate you sharing that here, keep me in mind for a future syndicate!
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    • Profile picture of the author georgebush
      Originally Posted by trooper19403 View Post

      Kindle Cash Flow vs. Kindle Craze 2.0

      Subject Matter (Chapters)

      Subject Matter
      Intro/Overview/Account Set Up (Both have)
      Research/Hot Topics/Title/Description (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
      Content/PLR (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
      Ghostwriting/Outsourcing-good & bad (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
      PLR-the good, the bad & the ugly (Both have)
      Book Cover (How to & etc.)(Both have)
      Uploading Book (Both have)
      Templates (Both have)

      Well I'm back (unlike many on here whom have stated they would review something and never post their reviews). First of all let me tell you that I first went through the Kindle Cash Flow video series first. It was very well done in that it was organized, easy to watch, the dialog was cohesive and verbally flowed well - a "system" as he likes to refer to it as. The Kindle Craze 2.0 video series was less organized; the dialog was hard to stay focused as I found my mind wondering because of the presenter's command of the English language (not that it was extremely bad or anything like that..it was just not as captivating from a standpoint of verbally flowing well). The question is; does this "system" warrant or provide $980.00 more value?

      So, as such, that has some value associated to it. However in the Kindle Craze 2.0, they covered marketing of your books and provided several tips on other things; for example what I will call a fourth source for content which no mention is even made of in the Kindle Cash Flow series (something the proclaimed "Kindle Cash King" should have included in his series costing what it costs). The question is; how can a SIGNIFICANTLY higher price be justified for the Kindle Cash Flow "system"?

      Before going further, I will tell you that about 6 weeks ago I spent about 2 hours and 40 minutes watching a replay of a webinar (a webinar which cost me nothing to view); where ALL this Kindle info plus a few tips were presented exactly the same as both these series from a Ryan Deiss associate ...and in addition many of the things discussed within each series in re-hashed stuff we all already know from other courses we have purchased in the past...so I did not view this as GAME CHANGING original thought or information (there are a few nuggets, but they are NOT diamonds nor game changers).

      I can go back and forth here doing an in depth comparison, however the question that really need answering is the question of VALUE; something I have a huge background in determining having been a Purchasing Manager in my day for several companies; a couple of Fortune 500 companies no less.

      So value... here we have one series at $17.00 (download delivery) vs another at $997.00 (plus shipping)...well there is some value right there. Now in purchasing, we would get 3 -5 bids on an item; 5 being better as it gives you a better read. In that case we would throw out the cheapest because there just cant be value there (just ask yourself.. you want it...how cheap? which goes with you want it...how bad? because cheap = bad...and I'm NOT saying the Kindle Craze 2.0 series is a bad series because it isn't bad at all). Secondly, we would throw out the highest bid as it was obvious the person did not know the market and was figuring they should be rewarded by the inexperienced buyer (caveat emptor) as a penalty for the buyer not knowing his market either. Value is what gives a product sustaining power year after year.

      However....I must quote the author here - by his own words, "The value that you have has to FAR OUTWEIGH the asking price" (his own statement on a video entitled "The #1 mistake most writers make") in the series. Perhaps in his mind the video series does just that BUT, the value that is being discussed is the VALUE perceived by the receiving party; NOT the other way around because that is how a market is determined as IT MUST BE WIN-WIN or someone feels cheated.

      So with that said and getting back to our purchasing 101 lesson, you have probably already figured out that the price for the Kindle Cash Flow series should be somewhere in between the cheap $17.00 and the out of the ballpark price of $997.00...say somewhere in the range of $197.00 to $297.00 maybe $397.00 with more content.

      Game Changer? - NOT...and that is what I stated from the very beginning that this product needed to be to JUSTIFY it's price (but how would you know until you bought it and had something to compare it to..that's been done now)

      $197.00 - $297.00 - Acceptable asking price with respect to VALUE (Remember value is not only what is included information wise but also how it is presented and the ease to follow along)

      Greater than $297.00 - Ask for that 30 Day Refund... which is the next test to be reported on here as to whether or not the 30 day Money Back No Questions Asked Refund works...I am sure you all will want to know that too since there has been alot of discussion regarding it in this thread.

      **Please understand this is not meant to be taken as an affront to anyone, but rather just my opinion as to the VALUE of one product compared to a similar product.
      thank you very much for your analysis -- its funny but intuitively this is what i was thinking anyway - could never afford the 1k and a good job too
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  • Profile picture of the author Hereandthere
    I have been thinking about getting in Kindle publishing for some time now. No way would I spend a thousand bucks because that isn't the price range I am in for info-products. BUT I think I am going to get a dozen Kindle books or so written and up, all original, based on the various WSOs I have bought. Then if I start making some money, I might consider the thousand buck course.... that's one strategy anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author baokhau
    Originally Posted by lhkorn99 View Post

    anyone buy ty cohen's kindle cash flow? wondering about the product. big price tag.
    What is the sales page?
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  • Profile picture of the author Silverlight
    UPDATE:

    I contacted Ty about 3 weeks back to get the refund. As it turns out the product is great but it just didn't fit into my schedule. He got back to me fast, the next day to offer me the ability to keep the product by paying half the price and he would also come on and coach me for an hour. I agreed and have not heard from him for 3 weeks.

    Update UPDATE:

    As it turns out my emails were not getting through to Ty. Through the forum Ty was able to reach out and communicate with me. In a matter of minutes he called me up personally and we were able to come to an agreement.

    Bottom Line: Ty stands 100% behind what he does and his actions show for it. Just look at this forum. He is a great person and is committed to your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author planetlubs
    Yes, Kindle publishing is very profitable and I see it as the trend for 2012 and above.

    I am already earning big from it and I will be releasing my methods soon.

    However, 1000 bucks is too much money.

    Now for PLR, that is a very bad way to Go. Your book will never have a chance of lasting on Amazon Kindle Store. However recommends that route needs to re evaluate their strategies.

    Amazon uses its customers as its eyes and at any time, they will be able to catch up with any piece of crap.

    My strategy is to give quality and uniqueness, no matter whether it is done in 10 pages or a hundred pages. As long as it is quality and not rehearsed PLR materials.

    I recommend Kindle Publishing. But to stand out, you need some prior techniques.

    Pm me if you are interested in a review copy of my upcoming product that exposes all the Techniques that are not talked about by all other books, that will get you creating quality books fast and ranking them on page one of Amazons results page for your target keyword. If you are not on page one, NO SALES.

    I hope this reply helps you. The bottom line is that you should value your money and not spend too much on high priced products.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
      Originally Posted by milla04 View Post

      Actually if you are a non U.S person your royalties earnings will be reduced even lower, by 30% tax with-holdings. So, whatever figures you work out, deduct 30% from that. I have found none of these course explain this until you get a cheque and half of the profit is gone.

      Just a tip - the author of kindle cash flow is in the US, so he likely didn't even know that tax issue at the time of publishing. However - I'm in Canada - and even in the UK and many countries, you can get an ITIN number, which you then note it with Amazon and they will no longer hold your 30% back for tax. (You have to live in a country that has an agreement with the US, but there are many listed).


      Originally Posted by planetlubs View Post

      Yes, Kindle publishing is very profitable and I see it as the trend for 2012 and above.

      I am already earning big from it and I will be releasing my methods soon.

      However, 1000 bucks is too much money.

      Now for PLR, that is a very bad way to Go. Your book will never have a chance of lasting on Amazon Kindle Store. However recommends that route needs to re evaluate their strategies.

      Amazon uses its customers as its eyes and at any time, they will be able to catch up with any piece of crap.

      My strategy is to give quality and uniqueness, no matter whether it is done in 10 pages or a hundred pages. As long as it is quality and not rehearsed PLR materials.

      I recommend Kindle Publishing. But to stand out, you need some prior techniques.

      Pm me if you are interested in a review copy of my upcoming product that exposes all the Techniques that are not talked about by all other books, that will get you creating quality books fast and ranking them on page one of Amazons results page for your target keyword. If you are not on page one, NO SALES.

      I hope this reply helps you. The bottom line is that you should value your money and not spend too much on high priced products.

      The author (in the version I have) states NOT to do PLR anymore.
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      • Profile picture of the author batchos
        Hi Amber,

        Did you get an ITIN number?

        The last time I checked the process seems inconvenient and expensive.

        Thanks



        Originally Posted by Amber Jalink View Post

        Just a tip - the author of kindle cash flow is in the US, so he likely didn't even know that tax issue at the time of publishing. However - I'm in Canada - and even in the UK and many countries, you can get an ITIN number, which you then note it with Amazon and they will no longer hold your 30% back for tax. (You have to live in a country that has an agreement with the US, but there are many listed).





        The author (in the version I have) states NOT to do PLR anymore.
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        • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
          Originally Posted by batchos View Post

          Hi Amber,

          Did you get an ITIN number?

          The last time I checked the process seems inconvenient and expensive.

          Thanks
          I have it in my calendar to do within the next week or two. I'd put it in to be done back in January but was too swamped with other things.

          I think its around $150-200, but its done properly. Oh - I also put it off because I have to go up to the neighboring city at the other end... my hubby has the car most of the time as he works out of town, so I'll probably be waiting to during March Break when I can just take him in and then go get it done.

          Amazon does take a chunk off if you don't have it, that's true - I got a check from them back in December and that's what reminded me to get the paperwork done.

          Amber
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          • Profile picture of the author batchos
            Thanks for the info Amber.

            The last time I visited this some people talked about hiring an IRS approved agent to complete the paperwork, at a much higher fee.

            So, I have to look into this sooner since it sounds a lot more reasonable.

            Thanks!

            Originally Posted by Amber Jalink View Post

            I have it in my calendar to do within the next week or two. I'd put it in to be done back in January but was too swamped with other things.

            I think its around $150-200, but its done properly. Oh - I also put it off because I have to go up to the neighboring city at the other end... my hubby has the car most of the time as he works out of town, so I'll probably be waiting to during March Break when I can just take him in and then go get it done.

            Amazon does take a chunk off if you don't have it, that's true - I got a check from them back in December and that's what reminded me to get the paperwork done.

            Amber
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        • Profile picture of the author milla04
          Originally Posted by batchos View Post

          Hi Amber,

          Did you get an ITIN number?

          The last time I checked the process seems inconvenient and expensive.

          Thanks
          The process can be quite tiring and costly if you dont know how to do it, or what forms to fill in. What i mean, if you fill the forums incorrectly they will send it back, so you will have to redo the forums again... buh, buh. Funny enough, in my sig a WSO is running on this very topic for all non U.S people to get a US TAX ID and what forms to fill, so no time is wasted.
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
            Originally Posted by milla04 View Post

            The process can be quite tiring and costly if you dont know how to do it, or what forms to fill in. What i mean, if you fill the forums incorrectly they will send it back, so you will have to redo the forums again... buh, buh. Funny enough, in my sig a WSO is running on this very topic for all non U.S people to get a US TAX ID and what forms to fill, so no time is wasted.
            Can I just add that THIS is the real deal. You can get your number, and consequently 100% of your royalties, if you apply what is contained in this report.

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          • Profile picture of the author rchudej1
            Originally Posted by milla04 View Post

            The process can be quite tiring and costly if you dont know how to do it, or what forms to fill in. What i mean, if you fill the forums incorrectly they will send it back, so you will have to redo the forums again... buh, buh. Funny enough, in my sig a WSO is running on this very topic for all non U.S people to get a US TAX ID and what forms to fill, so no time is wasted.
            Where are your WSO for this ITIN number?

            Thanks,
            Mike Chudej
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  • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
    Ty..does not stand behind his refund policy's !..I wish people would tell the truth..I had to do a charge back to get my refund..and he is still trying to fight it..but the fact is he will lose this fight !
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    • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

      Ty..does not stand behind his refund policy's !..I wish people would tell the truth..I had to do a charge back to get my refund..and he is still trying to fight it..but the fact is he will lose this fight !
      I can't speak for either you or Ty... but just as a reminder: you're saying you wish people would "tell the truth"... many of us DO like the course... does that mean we're not telling the truth here? While you may not have liked it or found it to be useful to you, others have. Yes, we have the right to our opinions - and that's exactly my point.

      And as for the chargeback/refund request - were you within the time frame allowed? Did you return the product in order to get your refund?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
        Originally Posted by Amber Jalink View Post

        I can't speak for either you or Ty... but just as a reminder: you're saying you wish people would "tell the truth"... many of us DO like the course... does that mean we're not telling the truth here? While you may not have liked it or found it to be useful to you, others have. Yes, we have the right to our opinions - and that's exactly my point.

        And as for the charge back/refund request - were you within the time frame allowed? Did you return the product in order to get your refund?

        First ..I did not say anything about the course !..this is about Ty's refund policy only..he has a few..30day..60 day..and maybe a 90 day not sure..but the TRUTH is he offered a money back guarantee and now he is not backing it up..and yes I was in the 30 day range..

        But the TRUTH IS he offered a 60 day money back guarantee on the webinar I was on..but it does not matter because I was still in the 30 day mark you are talking about Ok...so that is why I had to do a charge back..and now he is even trying to fight that !..are you kidding me
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        • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
          Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

          First ..I did not say anything about the course !..this is about Ty's refund policy only..he has a few..30day..60 day..and maybe a 90 day not sure..but the TRUTH is he offered a money back guarantee and now he is not backing it up..and yes I was in the 30 day range..

          But the TRUTH IS he offered a 60 day money back guarantee on the webinar I was on..but it does not matter because I was still in the 30 day mark you are talking about Ok...so that is why I had to do a charge back..and now he is even trying to fight that !..are you kidding me
          Well, you mentioned "I wish people would tell the truth.." so I thought you meant about the course itself.

          If you're within the 30 days that he promised, then yes, you're right, if you asked for it you should get it.

          Did you return the package as instructed?
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  • Profile picture of the author Winson Ng
    I choose to disagree that he teaches everything, i went through the course and it is super simple for the $997 price tag. in the webinar he stresses about numbers.. in the training videos , he stresses on quality. after some keen observation and research... it is the numbers that make a difference... in short ,producing volumes of books and less on quality. It is impossible to produce 800 books in a short few months unless you hire, $100 per book at least? PLR books... you need to rewrite them...

    He is not revealing HOW HE PRODUCES SO MANY TITLES IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME> and that is the only remaining information i'm willing to kill for...

    he is now claiming that it is on "110% autopilot, and bringing him $40,000 /month ...
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  • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
    Can anyone who bought this reveal how he outsources ebooks for $20? Doesn't seem possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author T2007
    Can somebody tell if this is the same course for just $97?

    Ty Cohen Kindle Cash Flow Amazon Kindle
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    • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
      Originally Posted by T2007 View Post

      Can somebody tell if this is the same course for just $97?

      Ty Cohen Kindle Cash Flow Amazon Kindle
      The course that sold for $997 has about 10 DVD's and was shipped in the mail.

      Is this an eCourse or something. I did not see much detail anywhere.

      Wondering if it's pirated at that price?

      Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author celestmark
      Originally Posted by T2007 View Post

      Can somebody tell if this is the same course for just $97?

      Ty Cohen Kindle Cash Flow Amazon Kindle
      Went to the link and it now displays:

      There is 1 error :
      1. Product not found
      I think Ty finally got to that one!
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  • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
    Even if it is, I highly doubt that it's approved by Ty, the creator of Kindle Cash Flow. Looks like some sort of terrible bootleg site to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmurphy
    Good! Ty has a great product, and his does not sell for $97.
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  • Profile picture of the author dipakshorey
    I came across an Amazon Kindle writing course from the Elder Academy which has 5 hours of videos on the topic and it costs peanuts - does any one have any thoughts on it, as to me at first glance, it is very comprehensive and I am beginning to doubt that Ty Cohen's Kindle Cash Flow course has anything to offer (except blackhat techniques) that that this course doesn't. With a discount code it is just $9 and compare that to $997/- that Ty charges - it is a no-brainer! OK it is online and I don't get 9 CDs so what? I actually believe the delivery of a physical product that can easily be online in this day and age is a con mans trick to make you believe that his product is worth much more than it really is!

    Looking through the thread it seems to me that in order to make the sort of money that Ty is you have to have almost a thousand Kindle books on Amazon (plus there may be thousands more titles written under aliases/pseudonames that we don't even know about!). How many of us have the time to churn out that sort of volume without outsourcing it all? I need to be proved wrong when I state that no one and I mean no one can write like that without cutting and pasting other peoples work and that is plagarism, period! - by his own admission Ty says he cannot write. Amazon now checks that your book is not rehashed PLR or public domain material and any suspected material will be deleted from its catalogue by the company! Remember if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is!
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  • Profile picture of the author fushigi
    @daydreamer... WSO means Warrior Special Offer. If you're interested in Kindle I recommend Geoff Shaw's Kindling...it's by far the best and you can find it here on the forum. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author J Wilson0
    For those of you that purchased this years ago or even more recently....Was it worth it? How books do you have published and what are your monthly sales? I was contemplating getting into kindle publishing and looking for direction to do it.
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