kindle cash flow

I purchased it, and it is a great product. Lots of good information, and not terribly hard to do as long as you can take action.

I have not purchased it yet.

I listened to Ty's webinar, and then looked at his site with the BIG price tag. Why would someone pay that much money when there is a WSO by Caleb Spilchen for $17 that to me looks like it has just about the same information? The WSO I just looked at even has a lot of videos to go with it. I have not bought it, but I am asking myself if I would rather pay $17 or $1K.... Maybe someone who has bought Ty's product can help the rest of us justify the insane price tag.

I didn't buy the program, but I was able to watch some of the original video that he did when he was showing his stats. He is not doing that on the current webinars. I cannot say if the course is worth it or not, but one thing I can tell you was the boy has VOLUME. I saw his list was over 800 titles. If you have 800 titles, and you sell them at around $8 a piece, the royalties on that is over $35k/mo, and that is if you only sell 1 title per month.

So if you can hire a ghostwriter to put out some good quality content, it will pay off. He may have some tips and tricks that he shares, but I won't fork out a grand for it. Besides, if he Really wants to help people, he is leaving out the masses of people that would pay a few hundred.

I would stay well away from PLR and any thoughts about trying to rewrite it and sell it on the Kindle. The best way forward is to create quality content and price it to offer real value to the reader.

I noticed that there were some books I was looking at as far as ideas (people already published them), and they looked to be PLR material. Later, when going back to look at them again, they were gone. It was for more than one. I think Amazon is really cracking down on this.

I've gone though everything. He teaches you everything you need to do and everything you need to know. Go through everything. Some things have changed just slightly since I got them (Amazon has been making some changes to combat junk, a good thing) but it's nothing major. And yes, I have published books, and am making a few bucks. Not 15k a month, but on the way.

It takes time to create good content!

Could we get back to HONEST REVIEWS please ;-)

Well I just received the course and I will be looking at it over the next few days to determine if there is any NEW real value here or if it is just a re-hashing of material from other courses (which much of this stuff is in many cases).

I will also compare it to Kindle Cash Craze 2.0 which I also purchased for $17.00 to see if there is any similarities other than the typical how to create an account & upload to again see if there is any REAL VALUE. I figure in comparing the two, there ought to be a SIGNIFICANTLY more amount of detail, secrets, grand pooba wizbangs or something that is worth $1000.00 (when you include freight) - right? and it should really stand out as a game changer for that price difference - right?

So after I view each one and compare them...then I will be testing the "money back guarantee" of one of them - afterall there's has to be a loser.

I have bookmarked this page so I will report my findings here in about a couple of weeks. I agree with pearsonbrown regarding legitimate reviews as there is just too much rhetoric here when these so called "new courses" pop out.

Kindle Cash Flow vs. Kindle Craze 2.0

Subject Matter (Chapters)

Subject Matter
Intro/Overview/Account Set Up (Both have)
Research/Hot Topics/Title/Description (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
Content/PLR (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
Ghostwriting/Outsourcing-good & bad (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
PLR-the good, the bad & the ugly (Both have)
Book Cover (How to & etc.)(Both have)
Uploading Book (Both have)
Templates (Both have)

Well I'm back (unlike many on here whom have stated they would review something and never post their reviews). First of all let me tell you that I first went through the Kindle Cash Flow video series first. It was very well done in that it was organized, easy to watch, the dialog was cohesive and verbally flowed well - a "system" as he likes to refer to it as. The Kindle Craze 2.0 video series was less organized; the dialog was hard to stay focused as I found my mind wondering because of the presenter's command of the English language (not that it was extremely bad or anything like that..it was just not as captivating from a standpoint of verbally flowing well). The question is; does this "system" warrant or provide $980.00 more value?

So, as such, that has some value associated to it. However in the Kindle Craze 2.0, they covered marketing of your books and provided several tips on other things; for example what I will call a fourth source for content which no mention is even made of in the Kindle Cash Flow series (something the proclaimed "Kindle Cash King" should have included in his series costing what it costs). The question is; how can a SIGNIFICANTLY higher price be justified for the Kindle Cash Flow "system"?

Before going further, I will tell you that about 6 weeks ago I spent about 2 hours and 40 minutes watching a replay of a webinar (a webinar which cost me nothing to view); where ALL this Kindle info plus a few tips were presented exactly the same as both these series from a Ryan Deiss associate ...and in addition many of the things discussed within each series in re-hashed stuff we all already know from other courses we have purchased in the past...so I did not view this as GAME CHANGING original thought or information (there are a few nuggets, but they are NOT diamonds nor game changers).

I can go back and forth here doing an in depth comparison, however the question that really need answering is the question of VALUE; something I have a huge background in determining having been a Purchasing Manager in my day for several companies; a couple of Fortune 500 companies no less.

So value... here we have one series at $17.00 (download delivery) vs another at $997.00 (plus shipping)...well there is some value right there. Now in purchasing, we would get 3 -5 bids on an item; 5 being better as it gives you a better read. In that case we would throw out the cheapest because there just cant be value there (just ask yourself.. you want it...how cheap? which goes with you want it...how bad? because cheap = bad...and I'm NOT saying the Kindle Craze 2.0 series is a bad series because it isn't bad at all). Secondly, we would throw out the highest bid as it was obvious the person did not know the market and was figuring they should be rewarded by the inexperienced buyer (caveat emptor) as a penalty for the buyer not knowing his market either. Value is what gives a product sustaining power year after year.

However....I must quote the author here - by his own words, "The value that you have has to FAR OUTWEIGH the asking price" (his own statement on a video entitled "The #1 mistake most writers make") in the series. Perhaps in his mind the video series does just that BUT, the value that is being discussed is the VALUE perceived by the receiving party; NOT the other way around because that is how a market is determined as IT MUST BE WIN-WIN or someone feels cheated.

So with that said and getting back to our purchasing 101 lesson, you have probably already figured out that the price for the Kindle Cash Flow series should be somewhere in between the cheap $17.00 and the out of the ballpark price of $997.00...say somewhere in the range of $197.00 to $297.00 maybe $397.00 with more content.

Game Changer? - NOT...and that is what I stated from the very beginning that this product needed to be to JUSTIFY it's price (but how would you know until you bought it and had something to compare it to..that's been done now)

$197.00 - $297.00 - Acceptable asking price with respect to VALUE (Remember value is not only what is included information wise but also how it is presented and the ease to follow along)

Greater than $297.00 - Ask for that 30 Day Refund... which is the next test to be reported on here as to whether or not the 30 day Money Back No Questions Asked Refund works...I am sure you all will want to know that too since there has been alot of discussion regarding it in this thread.

**Please understand this is not meant to be taken as an affront to anyone, but rather just my opinion as to the VALUE of one product compared to a similar product.

I have been thinking about getting in Kindle publishing for some time now. No way would I spend a thousand bucks because that isn't the price range I am in for info-products. BUT I think I am going to get a dozen Kindle books or so written and up, all original, based on the various WSOs I have bought. Then if I start making some money, I might consider the thousand buck course.... that's one strategy anyway.

What is the sales page?

UPDATE:

I contacted Ty about 3 weeks back to get the refund. As it turns out the product is great but it just didn't fit into my schedule. He got back to me fast, the next day to offer me the ability to keep the product by paying half the price and he would also come on and coach me for an hour. I agreed and have not heard from him for 3 weeks.

Update UPDATE:

As it turns out my emails were not getting through to Ty. Through the forum Ty was able to reach out and communicate with me. In a matter of minutes he called me up personally and we were able to come to an agreement.

Bottom Line: Ty stands 100% behind what he does and his actions show for it. Just look at this forum. He is a great person and is committed to your success.

Yes, Kindle publishing is very profitable and I see it as the trend for 2012 and above.

I am already earning big from it and I will be releasing my methods soon.

However, 1000 bucks is too much money.

Now for PLR, that is a very bad way to Go. Your book will never have a chance of lasting on Amazon Kindle Store. However recommends that route needs to re evaluate their strategies.

Amazon uses its customers as its eyes and at any time, they will be able to catch up with any piece of crap.

My strategy is to give quality and uniqueness, no matter whether it is done in 10 pages or a hundred pages. As long as it is quality and not rehearsed PLR materials.

I recommend Kindle Publishing. But to stand out, you need some prior techniques.

Pm me if you are interested in a review copy of my upcoming product that exposes all the Techniques that are not talked about by all other books, that will get you creating quality books fast and ranking them on page one of Amazons results page for your target keyword. If you are not on page one, NO SALES.

I hope this reply helps you. The bottom line is that you should value your money and not spend too much on high priced products.

Ty..does not stand behind his refund policy's !..I wish people would tell the truth..I had to do a charge back to get my refund..and he is still trying to fight it..but the fact is he will lose this fight !

I choose to disagree that he teaches everything, i went through the course and it is super simple for the $997 price tag. in the webinar he stresses about numbers.. in the training videos , he stresses on quality. after some keen observation and research... it is the numbers that make a difference... in short ,producing volumes of books and less on quality. It is impossible to produce 800 books in a short few months unless you hire, $100 per book at least? PLR books... you need to rewrite them...

He is not revealing HOW HE PRODUCES SO MANY TITLES IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME> and that is the only remaining information i'm willing to kill for...

he is now claiming that it is on "110% autopilot, and bringing him $40,000 /month ...

Can anyone who bought this reveal how he outsources ebooks for $20? Doesn't seem possible.

Can somebody tell if this is the same course for just $97?

Ty Cohen Kindle Cash Flow Amazon Kindle

Even if it is, I highly doubt that it's approved by Ty, the creator of Kindle Cash Flow. Looks like some sort of terrible bootleg site to me.

Good! Ty has a great product, and his does not sell for $97.

I came across an Amazon Kindle writing course from the Elder Academy which has 5 hours of videos on the topic and it costs peanuts - does any one have any thoughts on it, as to me at first glance, it is very comprehensive and I am beginning to doubt that Ty Cohen's Kindle Cash Flow course has anything to offer (except blackhat techniques) that that this course doesn't. With a discount code it is just $9 and compare that to $997/- that Ty charges - it is a no-brainer! OK it is online and I don't get 9 CDs so what? I actually believe the delivery of a physical product that can easily be online in this day and age is a con mans trick to make you believe that his product is worth much more than it really is!

Looking through the thread it seems to me that in order to make the sort of money that Ty is you have to have almost a thousand Kindle books on Amazon (plus there may be thousands more titles written under aliases/pseudonames that we don't even know about!). How many of us have the time to churn out that sort of volume without outsourcing it all? I need to be proved wrong when I state that no one and I mean no one can write like that without cutting and pasting other peoples work and that is plagarism, period! - by his own admission Ty says he cannot write. Amazon now checks that your book is not rehashed PLR or public domain material and any suspected material will be deleted from its catalogue by the company! Remember if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is!

@daydreamer... WSO means Warrior Special Offer. If you're interested in Kindle I recommend Geoff Shaw's Kindling...it's by far the best and you can find it here on the forum. Good luck!

For those of you that purchased this years ago or even more recently....Was it worth it? How books do you have published and what are your monthly sales? I was contemplating getting into kindle publishing and looking for direction to do it.