SEOLinkVine and UAW are Dead.... What IS Working?

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Well I am looking to get into Article Marketing for SEO and I am trying to figure out what is still working. I did the SEOLinkVine trial and it seems to be dead. I put 4 articles into it and like a week later only had 4 links. I wouldn't waste my time on that if it was free, let alone $67/mo.

I have read a lot of posts that UAW (Unique Article Wizard) is also dead.

I was wondering if any of the Article Networks are still alive and working or if Panda took them all out?

Some that I have read about are My Article Network (MAN), SEOLinkMachine, PostLinks, Article Marketing Automation (AMA), ArticleRanks, BuildMyRank (BMR), Free Traffic System, Article Blueprint, LinkVana, Article Ranks Pro, Linkamotion, Blogging Underground, etc (am I missing any?)... Which ones are the best bang for the buck now adays or are they all dead and it's time to move onto something else?
#dead #seolinkvine #uaw #working
  • Profile picture of the author stodog77
    I use EzarticleLink.com on a bunch of my websites, and have had great success. With Panda I am reluctant to use any article networks anymore though. Most of the sites using them are still doing very well, but I had one site get a -40 penalty, which lost me $XX,XXX per month in income. I don't know if this is what caused the penalty because I had a few other issues with the site, but always better safe than sorry. These days, if you are optimizing for Google it is just safe to abide by Google's quality guidelines to the tee.
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    • Profile picture of the author PicktownChris
      Thanks Stodog for the insight... I actually do have an ezarticlelink.com account (the free version) but I havent used it yet. I did add a couple domains to it though, so I will definately need to start using it. Do you think the upgraded version is worth the extra money or is the free version sufficient?
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    • Profile picture of the author tj_inreality
      Originally Posted by stodog77 View Post

      I use EzarticleLink.com on a bunch of my websites, and have had great success. With Panda I am reluctant to use any article networks anymore though. Most of the sites using them are still doing very well, but I had one site get a -40 penalty, which lost me ,XXX per month in income. I don't know if this is what caused the penalty because I had a few other issues with the site, but always better safe than sorry. These days, if you are optimizing for Google it is just safe to abide by Google's quality guidelines to the tee.
      Same thing happened to me stodog. -50 penalty for me, and $xx,xxx losses per month. Have you found anything yet that's helped you climb back up? And which network were you using?

      I used ALN and BMR, and shortly afterwards my site took a nosedive. I am not 100% sure if it was the article networks or not. I'm trying other things like varying anchors, adding more content, adding nofollow to affiliate links, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fermina
      Originally Posted by stodog77 View Post

      I use EzarticleLink.com on a bunch of my websites, and have had great success. With Panda I am reluctant to use any article networks anymore though. Most of the sites using them are still doing very well, but I had one site get a -40 penalty, which lost me ,XXX per month in income. I don't know if this is what caused the penalty because I had a few other issues with the site, but always better safe than sorry. These days, if you are optimizing for Google it is just safe to abide by Google's quality guidelines to the tee.
      Hi, How did you know of the penalty? Did you use a tool? What tool was it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Phillip M King
        When I saw the title of the post, I got a real fright! I thought I had missed some big news. Very glad it's a false alarm. As in post #7, indexing is key. You might consider Linklicious.

        You listed a lot of networks - another is Traffic Kahuna.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt Henninger
    Not sure where you read that UAW is "dead" but, I find it works great. Good syndication and the links get indexed fairly well on that network.

    You might also want to try articlemarketingrobot as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author PicktownChris
    I read a bunch of posts that all said UAW was dead... I haven't tried it to see for myself so maybe I will give it a chance...

    Any others that are worth giving a try?
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  • Profile picture of the author RNMKR
    This site will be of help, he has reviewed tons of different article networks

    Link Building

    not my site, just found it useful
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    • Profile picture of the author chriswyattseo
      @J.Cox Yeah I know him. He has some good stuff. But a lot of it is older.

      As far as ANY tool/network being dead, it comes down to INDEXING links. If whatever you're using doesn't give you the link locations to be able to run through and indexing system. Then you're not gonna fair well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doug Taylor
    Here is a post about different blog networks including UAW and SEO Linkvine . I found it pretty interesting.
    Blog Network Roundup Review - Which Blog Network is the Best? | IM Impact
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  • Profile picture of the author Natlex
    Seolinkvine was **** when I tried it, UAW on the other hand is decent. I think I just overused it over time so I already have links from all the sites in the network. Anyway, I did a post 2 days ago on the current services I use and stopped using.
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  • Profile picture of the author PicktownChris
    Thanks for the great information... especially that link to Blog Network Roundup Review - Which Blog Network is the Best? | IM Impact ... that was some great information..

    I have a noob question... there are several references to penalties (-40, -50 etc)... what / how are those calculated?..
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    • Profile picture of the author tj_inreality
      Originally Posted by PicktownChris View Post

      Thanks for the great information... especially that link to Blog Network Roundup Review - Which Blog Network is the Best? | IM Impact ... that was some great information..

      I have a noob question... there are several references to penalties (-40, -50 etc)... what / how are those calculated?..
      It's a rough calculation and it just means I noticed that all of the pages on my site fell by 50 spots across the board.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    When I tried out SEO Link Vine, I found it just posted unrelated trash onto my site.

    Never bothered with it since.

    James Scholes
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
      Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

      When I tried out SEO Link Vine, I found it just posted unrelated trash onto my site.

      Never bothered with it since.

      James Scholes
      Umm... Using SEO Link Vine to post content to your blog has nothing to do with getting higher Google rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author PicktownChris
    A couple of you were mentioning Indexing is key...however, if only 4 links get posted in a week's time from 4 articles (like I got from SEOLinkVine) then the problem is the number of links, not whether they are getting indexed...

    To go on a tangent, to get links indexed, what programs do you use?... I have been using Linklicious.me - Scheduled RSS Feeds to get your Backlinks Crawled FAST and it seems to do a good job...
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  • Profile picture of the author Simin
    All major blog network got hit by big G . . .
    The big G really serious about blog network. They want to secure their PPC adwords revenue. And never let any SEO master to dominate their SERP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Outsourcingnerd
    I Tried SEO Link While for a couple of months. A few articles posted, and after 2 months I got 19 active links, so that was an easy decision to cancel that. :-)

    I have switched back to normal article submission, I know what I get and it is also more safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author adrixe
    How would you consider seolv dead? Ive been using it and thelinkjuicer for 1.5 months niw and used backlinkenergizer to index all the urls, got all my kws #1 . Not an im but a local business that i run. I submitted tons of articles in them and get 40-50 post/day.

    Im interested to know if i should stop using it and use a different source of bl?
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    • Profile picture of the author Outsourcingnerd
      Originally Posted by adrixe View Post

      How would you consider seolv dead? Ive been using it and thelinkjuicer for 1.5 months niw and used backlinkenergizer to index all the urls, got all my kws #1 . Not an im but a local business that i run. I submitted tons of articles in them and get 40-50 post/day.

      Im interested to know if i should stop using it and use a different source of bl?
      I guess it is down to the niche how much content you can get published and how many back links you will get.

      The good thing about seolv is that it consist of a network of normal WP blogs, so compared to other link building network they would not leave a massive footprint.

      If you are getting a decent amount of back links and you are getting #1 results, then stick to your plan! :-)

      However, it is always a good idea to use several sources for your links - if you stick to only a few sources there is a bigger chance the links not look genuine in the eyes of big G.

      So a variations of article directories, blog commenting, social bookmarking and videos and other stuff is good.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacksonlin
    I use UAW, AMA, AR and Traffic Kaboom.

    They are far from dead. They should be only part of your strategy not your WHOLE strategy. Especially if you target hard keywords. For easy long tail keywords these are more than enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author singaporeasiaco
    With all the private/public high PR networks getting slaughtered.. I think it's time to head back to mixing links up :/
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  • Profile picture of the author snakeyes
    seo linkvine elite has all been de-indexed. I would like to hear from brad callen
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
    1. This is not true.

    2. "Some" were de-indexed.

    3. It has nothing to do with SEOLV Elite specifically. Panda affected ALL blog networks. BMR closed it's doors completely. WE are simply replacing any de-indexed blogs with other blogs so that our users are, in no way, affected. While we cannot control Google, we CAN control how we respond to Google.

    4. This is a thread for SEO Link Vine, which has nothing to do with SEO Link Vine Elite.

    5. Please don't spread rumors based on rumors of rumors. If you have a specific question related to "your" SEOLV Elite membership, please use the support desk. I will not be responding to questions relating to this here, as this is a review section, not a customer support section of the Warrior forum.

    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    I'm using ezArticleLink right now, I give this service 5 stars since the articles you submit to the network go through editorial review. Good service even if you go with the free account.
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  • Profile picture of the author kafai
    now you can try AUTHORITY LINK NETWORK
    ALN are the best and greatest blogs network for link building until now, because in the ALN system there are more than 17k blogs, we can join to them for free and just adding our PR blogs to the system and then we can do article submission to the system
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  • Profile picture of the author kalens99
    Didn't use SEO LinkVine. I did look at the free versions of article submitter and some similar products and thought they looked like crap even before Panda. There are still marketers trying to promote this garbage, which tells me they either don't know what is going on anymore or are still trying to make a buck off gullible newbies who don't know any better.
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  • Profile picture of the author ovitruk
    Thank you everyone here for sharing at least what not to use. Our time is also valuable, not just our money.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
      Banned
      I'm in the progress of replacing My Article Network and UAW with:

      - Free Traffic System - $39/month or submit your own site(s)
      - Free Blog Links - submit your own site(s)

      Both are based on user input sites which I prefer a lot more, additionally I use:

      - Authority Link Network - starting at $15/month or submit your own site(s)
      - Article Ranks - starting at $39/month ex VAT or submit your own site(s)
      - High PR society - 100 articles/posts = 300 credits costs $7.50
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
    Ever heard the expression "once bitten, twice shy"

    The writing's on the wall folks READ IT!

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  • Profile picture of the author tsgeric
    anybody here a member of Blog Authority network. it seems the network stopped posting to site about 5 days ago, then went completely dark just a couple of days ago, with no explanation or anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Field
    Well, if UAW and SEOLinkvine won't work for you you can also try the newest method of getting ranked to page 1 of Google in 7 minutes. Just check out here webfire SEO

    You can also watch some preview i've done here:
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    • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
      Hi Jason
      Are you really ranking fast for your keywords as is showing on the software video site?

      regards,
      Originally Posted by Jason Field View Post

      Well, if UAW and SEOLinkvine won't work for you you can also try the newest method of getting ranked to page 1 of Google in 7 minutes. Just check out here webfire SEO

      You can also watch some preview i've done here: Webfire SEO Review
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  • Profile picture of the author netrover
    I don't think we need to be too worried about being penalized for having thousands of backlinks from blog networks. The obvious reason is that Google understands that, if it decides to impose such a penalty, people could take down their competitors' sites in the rankings by creating thousands of crap links to them using the blog networks. And, that would not be fair.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshN
      Originally Posted by netrover View Post

      I don't think we need to be too worried about being penalized for having thousands of backlinks from blog networks. The obvious reason is that Google understands that, if it decides to impose such a penalty, people could take down their competitors' sites in the rankings by creating thousands of crap links to them using the blog networks. And, that would not be fair.
      From what I understand this can be done quite easily. There are even individuals who specialize in it.
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    • Profile picture of the author djleon1
      Originally Posted by netrover View Post

      I don't think we need to be too worried about being penalized for having thousands of backlinks from blog networks. The obvious reason is that Google understands that, if it decides to impose such a penalty, people could take down their competitors' sites in the rankings by creating thousands of crap links to them using the blog networks. And, that would not be fair.
      This happens all the time - negative seo is unfortunate but very real.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanvroman
    I'm still waiting to see proof of negative SEO.

    Considering how many companies hire SEO firms who built links on blog networks - Google would have way too much bad press if they canned thousands of legitimate small and large businesses.

    I personally don't believe they are penalizing for simply having links on blog networks. I think a few people are being penalized for other things and blaming the networks.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshN
      Originally Posted by ryanvroman View Post

      I'm still waiting to see proof of negative SEO.

      Considering how many companies hire SEO firms who built links on blog networks - Google would have way too much bad press if they canned thousands of legitimate small and large businesses.

      I personally don't believe they are penalizing for simply having links on blog networks. I think a few people are being penalized for other things and blaming the networks.
      Google slapped JCPenny... they don't give a F***.

      Seriously though unless its PPC its just taking away from their PPC advertising, and even then they care way more about their users than people marketing with them
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  • Profile picture of the author affordableweb
    looks like traffic kaboom is sold out. Is UAW still working?
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    ezArticleLink is an a great linkbuilding service, I would say it's comparable to UAW or maybe even better, they also have an awesome built-in spinner as well, great to use even if you only go with the free version, even though the paid version is way better.
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    • Profile picture of the author Almanack
      Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

      ezArticleLink is an a great linkbuilding service, I would say it's comparable to UAW or maybe even better, they also have an awesome built-in spinner as well, great to use even if you only go with the free version, even though the paid version is way better.
      I have an ezarticlelink lifetime gold account. I'm not using it anymore because I'm not doing SEO anymore. If you are interested in it, PM me
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  • Profile picture of the author rossnmia
    The problem I had with SEO link vine is that the quality of articles leading back to my site was sometimes embarrassing (spun a few times more) and I had a few duplicate content issues when people posted the same article several times in different places. Too risky now I say
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