Bill McRea's Painless Traffic Anyone?

Why not just get a refund and learn to do things the right way rather than relying on "software"?

Joey

To the best of my knowledge my friend, their studies are based on their test with an unlimited amount of urls listed. We are left with the ability to only list a measly 2 urls and cross our fingers that we get any hits.

Now if you had 10,000 urls in the system prior to any new buyers using the program then every bit of traffic being driven to those urls were going to their offers (could even be high paying CPA offers that convert at $100 per lead).

So you take those 10,000 urls and say they got 100 hits per day to each one x 2 days = 2 million hits = $$$

2,000,000 / 18,000 dollars = $111 per hit average.

Anyway, you get the idea...

When you are at the bottom of the barel you aren't going to get those results. And for the small amount of traffic you do get you better have a killer offer that anybody who visits can't refuse.

Maybe we will see some bigger results the longer we hang in there.

I just wish this was unlimited urls as I was lead to believe when I went through the sales funnel.

Good Luck!
Ryan K

Mr Moderator:

You are absolutely correct! I and others in here have the right to complaint because this product creators don't even come here to answer our questions and concerns.

Some of us have regular jobs that we have to wake up early and earn a living like myself. And some make money from home selling hype up clickbank products like this one I am assuming with such ridiculous claims.

If they made $14000 dollars with this software in under 48 hours, why would they share it? Why they just don't keep it a secret and run multiple campaigns on it. They would be super rich!!

They are only making money as a vendor but not as an affiliate!

I wouldn't be complaining if I had at least 0.000000001% conversion but all I see in a bunch of zero's on my CB account and I am using the hottest most recommended product they told me to choose. But maybe they lied to me.

Instead they have their programmer come in here and answer everyone's question. He is a programmer. He should be programming the software, hellooo? lol

Anyways my hits are going up. So at least I know is working. I also check my awstats on my cpanel for both of my urls and I am getting a few daily hits to both of my sites. They are just not converting. I even chosed the two categories they told me to put. So why isn't this working? I have no idea.

Is been 11 days already and nothing!

I have my calendar mark when is almost close to the 60 days CB refund policy and if I don't even see 1 sale then I will ask for a refund.

Maybe they will scam me and purchase a product from my link so I don't ask for a refund and them they will refund their purchased. Some of them are just soooo greedy that they will do anything to get you.

I have 0 and they have millions, yet they still want to rip you off from your little pennies, they want your bank account to be at zero.

Greedy gurus.

They are actually busy answering customer support, making training videos, etc to better help everyone "long term".

I am also busy implementing some of their new ideas as well. I just drop in here a couple times a day to possibly see if new problems arise from a technical standpoint so I can fix them immediately.

No, Traffic n Spades is not Bill & Micks, its another vendor and they are just promoting it as an affiliate (like any of us would do). He was suppose to send it out to people who did NOT join our site so maybe they would be interested in the other one, not sure if everyone received that email or not.

However, as I have stressed multiple times in this thread, using several of these products, as long as they are sending legit traffic, would have to be a good thing, right?

Again, I am sorry for the misleading headline, I am not the copywriter, just the programmer of course. Its one of those catch 22 things: Hype up the product to catch people's attention or be conservative with the sales pitch and get no one interested <shrugs>. I KNOW this is not the only product that has done this and while I am fairly new to this industry, I have seen my fair share of these lofty claims.

By the way, several members have already purchased an ADDITIONAL 20 pack upgrade (in the member area) after they have been running the initial 2 + 22 upgrade. Apparently, they are getting something out of the traffic to throw down another $197 for more.

Just because the handful of members here have not posted any success, does not mean none of the buyers have had success.

Don't worry Ras, I will crawl back in my cave and program now. You say Bill & Mick won't answer questions but I have answered quite a few but apparently, they weren't good enough so I am sure that their answers would be similar and consequently, not good enough either.

Therefore, we are going to continue to add features, work out bugs, tweak the system so that the members benefit long term. Other than that, nothing more I can convince you of until you get that coveted "sale". Just remember, ONE SALE from a typical CB product will almost pay for the system then you can use it for life. Be sure to keep an eye on that 60 day limit. I wouldn't want you to feel "screwed" by us. Get some traffic for now and you always have that option. To me, that is as much of a guarantee as it gets in this world to "experiment", wouldn't you think?

WE are taking the risk...WE are spending the time to service the customers. All you have to do is try it for awhile and if you aren't satisfied, you get back your money. WE still spent our time, effort and "traffic" on your URLs that we can't get that back.

I hate to sound HARSH but I don't know what else to say. Critique all you want but when you start bashing, yes, it gets personal.

This is NOT like typical CB products where someone buys some software and the owner doesn't have to interact with the buyer again (technically). We are providing a long term SERVICE (not software) that we have to continually monitor, tweak, etc so all of you can benefit. Traffic is never free, as you may well know, so building something like this LONG TERM is an ongoing task for the owners.

Rod

Hi Ras,
I think you misunderstood why I said that about other buying extra 20. They already had the 22 slots from the original purchase and now, a week later, bought an additional 20.

My only guess as to why they would lay down more money is because whatever they are promoting is working for them.

My main argument in all of this is traffic takes time. Typical reviews in this forum is based on a piece of software, training video, ebook, etc that you can decide within hours if the information is good, fresh etc. instead of just a rehash from someone else's product.

Traffic is not like that. It is a continual thing that we all need. The 2 main points all of you should consider and/or give honest reviews is:
1. amount of traffic (hits per day/week)
2. quality of traffic (does it convert to sales/signups/email captures...etc)
I welcome your comments about XX hits = X conversions (or lack thereof) so I can push this issue on up to Mick & Bill. If you could also post the categories you are using in here when posting your hits, that would be great.

Those 2 still remain to be seen and like you, I REALLY WANT this traffic to be good and fruitful to everyone. Unfortunately, it may not work for everyone because it depends on what they are promoting and could be wildly successful for others.

But I will stop posting in this thread now because this IS suppose to be about reviews and I am not serving in best interest of this thread. So when you don't see me posting, I am NOT hiding, just wishing to follow the rules here.

Rod

@ras33

In one of your threads you stated:

Anyways I found something that is making me around 80 to 120 dollars per day on clickbank. Is so deadly easy to use. Is a new product I purchased one week ago call painless traffic. It lets you put for the basic package 2 urls and for the upsell package 10 urls. I have been making on great money with this everyday. All you do is enter your url's in the box. Then choose two categories and hit submit. You are DONE! And now the money is coming right in. No need to build a list or build a landing page or word press site leading to the clickbank product. You just enter the CB affliate hoplink and that is all. You don't even have to use tinyurl or domain 301 redirects.
Just your direct CB affiliate link and you are all ready to go!

Talk about easy money. I just made a 45 dollar sale 10 minutes before writing this post. Anyways sorry about the silly thread I made a while back but I found my solution for now.

Lets see how long this thing will keep working for. :p

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Now you're saying you made no sales

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Which is it: sale or no sale?

Thanks for the help legend dude

My paypal sale was a direct link to my own product and the clickbank sale was a health product...I purchased a .info domain that I fowarded dierctly to the site.


QUOTE=raywarrior1978;5188675]Hello Gary. Which product did you convert on? How did you convert the sale? Did your site forwader it to a clickbank product, or this it go to a normal wordpress site than then took the visitor to the CB product?

Which product work for you?[/QUOTE]

Just signup for Bill's Painless 3.0 version. It is $1 for 14 days, then $19.95 per month.

The two urls I used are the same but directed to different target markets but in the same niche: IM.

Making a sale with the first visit is very difficult, specially, if the visitor doesn't know the seller.

Getting subscribers or leads is better.

But it will take months to know if these leads are really of any value.

It is better to receive 10 leads per day that are high "buyer" value than to get 1,000 leads per day that never convert to buyers.

I am offering a free report on list building, this is supposedly easy to get signups.

Lets see what happens, if this traffic likes freebies.

Sincerely,

Antonios

:confused:

I signup on Dec 8, that's 8 days ago.

I placed the same url/offer but with two different categories.

I got 1 and 3 hits in one day.

I changed the categories in one URL and got 16 hits and 5 on the other.

6 days have passed without receiving any additional hits:

Today they are still 16/5.

It is a free offer.

They say it takes time to populate.

I am still 6 days to end the 14 day $1 trial.

Let's see what happens.

Antonios

I purchased Bill McCrea's Massive Passive Profits last year. I swore after that product that I would never purchase anything from Bill McCrea ever again.
To be honest, I was so pissed off with that product that, even a year later, when I saw your question, I felt compelled to come back here and warn you. MPP was that bad.

Here is the WF thread about Massive Passive Profits.
Massive Passive Profits

My advice: Run away and don't look back!