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Hey everyone,

Has anyone tried out this product aldready?
Does it deliver as promised?

Regards,
MachineHead
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  • Profile picture of the author stormer
    Sorry but I can't say if it delivers or not.

    After checking out their site I was immediately put off by their tactics and emailed Jonny the Guru Assassin to tell him why.

    Maybe some here might agree with me but if it DOES actually deliver I too would like to hear about it.

    Here's what I said to Jonny:


    Hi Jonny,

    A couple of things about your Guru Assassin offer:

    1) I like to print out some sales letters but yours will not 'print preview'
    so I can: a) make sure it fits on the page and b) doesn't use more paper
    and ink than necessary.

    2) I see there is a membership site which (presumably) is not revealed
    until after the customer buys the $77 ebook.
    I don't like that tactic. Nor do I like Clickbank's system for memberships as I
    had a hell of a job to cancel when I joined one a while ago. Never again!

    So far as I am concerned you have a credibility deficit and unless the people
    at the Warrior Forum say otherwise, I'll have to pass on this.

    You could improve your chances of getting a sale by changing four things:
    (and I haven't even read your sales letter)

    1) Don't muck around with your site by by-passing 'print preview'.
    2) Don't use that $10 discount ploy - it's dishonest and would lead me to ask for a refund.
    3) Don't use that discredited tactic, OTO. Be up front with your customers from the start.
    4) Use a different payment processor such as PayPal for your membership site.

    There you are Jonny, some really valuable prospect feedback.
    But of course, you're the Guru who probably knows best. What would I know,
    I'm only the PROSPECT.

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardLegg
    Originally Posted by stormer View Post

    So far as I am concerned you have a credibility deficit and unless the people at the Warrior Forum say otherwise, I'll have to pass on this.
    I say otherwise.

    Jonny is a Warrior and a good guy - I've seen a lot of his stuff here in the forum and know he's the real deal.

    I don't think it's fair that just because he has additional products to sell, and the page will not 'print preview' , that he should be accused of having a "credibility deficit".

    Also, my experience with Clickbank (as a buyer and seller) is that they have one of the most hassle free refund/cancellation policies that I know of.

    Richard
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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      Originally Posted by RichardLegg View Post

      I say otherwise.

      Jonny is a Warrior and a good guy - I've seen a lot of his stuff here in the forum and know he's the real deal.
      From what I've seen of Johnny's posts, (admittedly not many) he would promote the opening of an envelope if it paid a good buck. Real deal is I guess a very relative term.

      I don't think it's fair that just because he has additional products to sell, and the page will not 'print preview' , that he should be accused of having a "credibility deficit".
      Agreed, so a marketer can't have additional products now ? Strange complaint. I can't see how it impacts on his credibility one iota.

      Also, my experience with Clickbank (as a buyer and seller) is that they have one of the most hassle free refund/cancellation policies that I know of.

      Richard
      Agreed again, cancelling anything on CB is the easiest cancellation available in payment processors there is. Infact it to damm easy frankly. Moaning that somebody is using CB as their payment gateway is like moaning your taxi driver collected you in a lousy Aston Martin.

      I've purchased it as I do all these cheapies, and it seems perfectly reasonable so far , nothing ground breaking but that's not the market it's aimed at. Had little time to view it but essentiallly seems to be a solid guide on creating products by interviewing experts in a niche, then packaging it up and getting them to promote it to their own lists on the basis they make a buck from the package on an affilaite basis and you make a buck from selling their program and your own.

      Decent model, used effectively in many niches, all been seen before but plenty of scope for somebody who enjoys this kind of model to make a buck. Lot of hand holding going on from what I've seen so far which is perfect for the market he's aimed it at.

      A proof reader might not have gone amiss mind you, only skimmed the first PDF and saw two typos. I think he employed the same proof reader Alex G did...

      No time right now to spend going through it, dozens of videos included, Johnny doesn't have one of those monotone voices , I've only watched a few minutes of one of the videos so far but it's quite easy listening, relaxed but informative , seemed perfectly presentable to me.

      I'm sure somebody with more time will be able to do a proper review but on paper for a lousy $77 it seems fine, he will be looking to make his money on the back end membership gig.
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Originally Posted by MachineHead View Post

    Hey everyone,

    Has anyone tried out this product aldready?
    Does it deliver as promised?

    Regards,
    MachineHead
    Welcome to the forum , 1 post huh... Some of the more suspicous types might think this was no more than a secondary account used to put a product in focus :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
      Those people may think what they want.
      I just want to know if this works before buying it.
      77$ are still quite a sum for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
    From what I've seen of Johnny's posts, (admittedly not many) he would promote the opening of an envelope if it paid a good buck. Real deal is I guess a very relative term.
    Wow! Simon! Glad to see you've warmed to me since our days of posting back and forth about Goads products!

    How are the kids? You haven't called much... is it my hair?

    (I can change it you know...)

    A proof reader might not have gone amiss mind you, only skimmed the first PDF and saw two typos. I think he employed the same proof reader Alex G did...
    Actually I do all my own stuff. Sales letters, product and editing.

    You only found TWO issues? Dude! I'm getting better!
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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      Originally Posted by JonnyAndrews View Post

      Wow! Simon! Glad to see you've warmed to me since our days of posting back and forth about Goads products!
      Hey I've just read my post and it was pretty positive, hell even defensive.. that IS me warming to somebody...

      Two mistakes in the first PDF Jonny, that's in the first PDF.... Slacker...

      Laters..
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    Well John Andrews himself,
    Heh it would be kinda stupid to ask you if you'd recomend this product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    What really??? No, actually I ment it as a sarcasm not a question
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    Riiiiight...
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  • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
    Weeelll. Is it worth the price if only 58 fat guys drop out of the ceiling with bags of cash?

    How big are the bags? Whose gonna pay to repair the ceiling? Is that covered by the product guarantee?

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    • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
      Originally Posted by Roy Carter View Post

      Weeelll. Is it worth the price if only 58 fat guys drop out of the ceiling with bags of cash?

      How big are the bags? Whose gonna pay to repair the ceiling? Is that covered by the product guarantee?

      Roy
      Violently obese men with HUGE sacks...

      Oddly enough my homeowners is fighting the claim, and Jonny is NON responsive.

      Great. Scammed again! When will I ever learn NOT to trust these boobs!
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    But has anyone here actually tried this product?
    Johnny might be a great guy I don't doubt that but that's not what this is about.

    Regards,
    MachineHead
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    • Profile picture of the author johnng
      I think it is a product that I bought that never really even making used of it. I bought this product that I thought was 1 off payment from Alex Goad. But end up paying $67 every month. The product might be good, or not? I have not really got into it, so I can't honest say it would do a good job or not. What I can say though, paying $67, for about 2 months before I cancel the membership, I found what I got monthly did not impress. During 1 of the month I receive a video from Alex Goad trying to tell me about a feature in eBay where the best selling products and Advertisers were displayed. Alex suggested it would be very useful info to steal product ideas from. Unfortunately, a few minutes into the video, it stopped, and I couldn't get anything more from it. What annoyed me most, was in a video, I can't remember it was the same Video I mentioned or not. He had a white board as the blackground and scribbled in it. The problem was, it was so dim, I could hardly see what was on the board! Paying $67 monthly for such unprofessional material, I have to say I was not impressed! He might have a technical problem in producing the video? May be? I for one, will not recommend the product.
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      • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
        Originally Posted by johnng View Post

        I think it is a product that I bought that never really even making used of it. I bought this product that I thought was 1 off payment from Alex Goad. But end up paying $67 every month. The product might be good, or not? I have not really got into it, so I can't honest say it would do a good job or not. What I can say though, paying $67, for about 2 months before I cancel the membership, I found what I got monthly did not impress. During 1 of the month I receive a video from Alex Goad trying to tell me about a feature in eBay where the best selling products and Advertisers were displayed. Alex suggested it would be very useful info to steal product ideas from. Unfortunately, a few minutes into the video, it stopped, and I couldn't get anything more from it. What annoyed me most, was in a video, I can't remember it was the same Video I mentioned or not. He had a white board as the blackground and scribbled in it. The problem was, it was so dim, I could hardly see what was on the board! Paying $67 monthly for such unprofessional material, I have to say I was not impressed! He might have a technical problem in producing the video? May be? I for one, will not recommend the product.


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        • Profile picture of the author MichaelBSoftware
          I do not have Guru Assassin but did buy Money Siphon...that was a great course. I was very impressed compared to some of the other crap I've bought.

          I like Jonny's irreverent style personally, all work and no play makes for a boring course...Jonny's funny as hell and his material is top notch from what I have seen.....
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          • Profile picture of the author shukes
            Hi Guys,

            I bought Guru Assassin, and have been going through the pdf's reading wjhat it was all about, but as mentioned in an earlier post, we all need to stick at 1 product and stay with it until the bitter end as jumping from 1 product to the next is definately the wrong way to go, both from a head banging perpective and financial.

            My only issue with the product thus far and its not really a critism and that is there does not seem to be a

            step 1 read this - watch this
            step 2 read this - watch this
            format

            I seem to be getting muddled amongst the huge number of files and videos, but hey I will work it out come rain or shine and living in the UK, probably the rain.

            Peter
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              • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
                Originally Posted by renault760 View Post

                Is it only about how to get interviews or are there other methods in there? LG.
                Pretty much just the interviews
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                • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
                  Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson View Post

                  Pretty much just the interviews
                  Hahahahahahaha! You can always tell the folks who don't read past the first 20 pages

                  There are 4 different ways to develop products in the system

                  I simply cover the interview method first because it solves the most
                  problems with the least amount of time/effort/energy.

                  #1: Gives you a product
                  #2: Gets your name out there
                  #3: Drives traffic
                  #4: Makes money

                  But as you go through the rest of the system you'll see 3 other
                  very easy to do models.

                  So yea... you should read past the first few pages, there's a lot
                  of happy happy fun times stuff to be seen!

                  Jonny
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      • Profile picture of the author Simon Harding
        Originally Posted by johnng View Post

        I think it is a product that I bought that never really even making used of it. I bought this product that I thought was 1 off payment from Alex Goad. But end up paying $67 every month. The product might be good, or not? I have not really got into it, so I can't honest say it would do a good job or not. What I can say though, paying $67, for about 2 months before I cancel the membership, I found what I got monthly did not impress. During 1 of the month I receive a video from Alex Goad trying to tell me about a feature in eBay where the best selling products and Advertisers were displayed. Alex suggested it would be very useful info to steal product ideas from. Unfortunately, a few minutes into the video, it stopped, and I couldn't get anything more from it. What annoyed me most, was in a video, I can't remember it was the same Video I mentioned or not. He had a white board as the blackground and scribbled in it. The problem was, it was so dim, I could hardly see what was on the board! Paying $67 monthly for such unprofessional material, I have to say I was not impressed! He might have a technical problem in producing the video? May be? I for one, will not recommend the product.
        ??
        This was not either this version of Guru Assassin or the previous one as far as I can say.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    Come ON, guys.

    Well, I'll tell you, I think that the 'lost credibility' post was unnecessarily harsh. I was looking forward to reading actual product reviews (thanks, Simon).

    BUT,

    I have to say that the product creator, Johnny, is certainly doing himself a disservice with his posts in the thread. Cool it, guy--you seem really unstable to me. Maybe it's launch nerves, but you certainly could have approached the posts as a professional running a business.

    Doesn't want to make me give you $ for the course.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
    I have to say that the product creator, Johnny, is certainly doing himself a disservice with his posts in the thread. Cool it, guy--you seem really unstable to me. Maybe it's launch nerves, but you certainly could have approached the posts as a professional running a business.
    OMG! Is it showing? Crap! I thought I had that removed!

    Yea, this one isn't for you. I take a far more enjoyable approach than "proffessional".

    Sorry. Not nerves. Just how I am. But "unstable"... lady... you need to take a closer look
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    • Profile picture of the author shukes
      Hi,

      t seems the original question was not answered, and that is, has anybody tried it and does it go some way to holding up the bold claims the sales letter conveys?

      kind Regards

      Peter
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      • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
        I bought it and made NO money yet, SCAM.
        Just kidding, I'm just reading through the modules right now.
        But I'm starting to see how I can make money from tihs
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    • Profile picture of the author IMChick
      Originally Posted by JonnyAndrews View Post

      OMG! Is it showing? Crap! I thought I had that removed!

      Yea, this one isn't for you. I take a far more enjoyable approach than "proffessional".

      Sorry. Not nerves. Just how I am. But "unstable"... lady... you need to take a closer look
      Whatever. Is the course like this, too? Or can I learn and apply it to my business?
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      • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
        Originally Posted by IMChick View Post

        Whatever. Is the course like this, too? Or can I learn and apply it to my business?
        Yes and yes. However I would strongly suggest YOU personally not buy it.

        And I'm not saying that to be mean or anything, I just hate to see people buy something that's not for them.

        This would be a total personality clash.

        I do live calls where everybody has A LOT of fun and learns some sneaky ninja stuff... you would hate it. In the depths of your soul you would hate this.

        Because I don't outsource my product creation I put A LOT of who I am in there.

        As you can see in this thread loads of folks go for that.

        Everything inside is taught from the perspective of people learning more when they're enjoying themselves. I know I do!

        So while there is A LOT of great info inside...

        ...Because the delivery method is based around people learning AND enjoying themselves... you would probably want to rip out your eyes.

        Please skip it. Save yourself the cash and the unbridled anger.

        And like I said, this is only the opinion of the dude who made the system! You're just not my customer! There's nothing wrong with that, it just is what it is!

        I'd suggest you maybe look into something by John Reece. He's more dry, to the point and without a lot of the humorous, real-world analogies.

        Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author BenShaffer
    Great course. If you haven't bought it yet then you must.

    Ignore Jonny when he says it was a scam. He's just trying to win a bet with the devil I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author writetale
    i'm with all the folks who have asked the BASIC QUESTION: does this program WORK?

    looking forward to the first person that raises their hand and says:
    1. yes, i bought, and
    2. i made some money with this.

    very simple. very basic. we're waiting.

    p.s. style doesn't matter, as long as we get the BASIC answers.
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    • Profile picture of the author arclight
      I bought the course and are reading the PDF's and watching the video's now.
      Have I made money from using it? That's a tough one......no I haven't.
      It must be scam!!! There will be a new course out from someone else tomorrow....that'll be the one for me.
      Let's get real here. This was only released a couple of days ago.
      Of course I' haven't made money using it. YET!!
      Things take time.
      This course is packed full of great content.
      What I have found is you have to take action and persevere. Don't go running from course to course.
      This I have learned.....

      Good stuff Jonny
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    • Profile picture of the author ebuyer123
      I bought it the other day, but still reading it...and so far so good

      ebuyer
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  • Profile picture of the author Julia Russo
    Well, guys I bought it yesterday and so far I like what I see. It rates as one of the most comprehensive how2 I have seen in awhile. Most stuff I run into is designed to tease, not teach. I accept that it has to take time, I accept that not everyone is ready for everything they attempt to learn. My level of knowing what I am doing has risen with every investment I have made, even with those that sucked.
    The task is to learn from every thing that has my interest in it or ask for a refund. And if it doesn't deliver or I am just not ready for that area of expertise, my money will be returned. Jonny knows that, as should every marketer out there.
    Had no idea Jonny would be found here but he's quite a character, I see. If he's got that much money, he can probably say and do pretty much what he wants (within this forum's tolerance). You guys battle it out or like TV, tune out. For now, I am just entertained.
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  • Profile picture of the author hkay
    Is there any difference between this and another product called Money Siphon System? Would appreciate receiving comments from those who have looked at both the products
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      • Profile picture of the author writetale
        Originally Posted by mikeong88 View Post

        Here comes their difference.

        One teaches you to be an affiliate, the other teaches you to sell your own products.

        1. Money Siphon System teaches you creative and effective ways to make money from affiliate marketing.

        2. Guru Assassin teaches you to make money from selling your own products

        Hybrid version.

        thanks, mikeong88... you hit the nail on the head for me.

        at this stage of the game, i'm not looking to push my own product, so Guru Assassin wouldn't work right now. thanks for that heads up.
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      • Profile picture of the author hkay
        Thanks Mikeong88 for your reply. I think i need to start with the first step before the second. Rgds
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        • Profile picture of the author Simon Harding
          Thoughts on Guru Account

          I have tried not to buy too much stuff as it takes me away from doing other stuff, like building my own blogs and niche sites.

          However, as I have said elsewhere on this forum, I am a believer in buying certain things as you never know what ideas you might get. Also, a good product can be a kick up the behind to motivate you to do more.

          I have bought two launches recently, the Niche Blueprint launch and Guru Account. Why these two? Well, principally, I am a member of Commission Blueprint and think it's very good so I thought I'd try out this new launch. I'll report back on that one.

          I have also liked Jonny Andrew's stuff before so thought I'd try this new version of Guru Assassin. He's also zany and hyper and it makes for entertaining content. (as you might gather from his participation in this thread!)

          So did this deliver?

          Well, as those of you who have read my reviews before know, I like to look at what is PROMISED in the Sales Page first.

          The Headline:

          "This Is EXACTLY How You Go From Broke And Unemployed To Making Over $29,842.33 In Less Than 30 Days Starting With No List... No Website...And No Money..."

          He then provides a graphic of a Clickbank account showing that amount of money.

          I guess that must be for the Money Siphon System launch. Whether he was broke or not before then, I'm not so sure of - as he had already done five WSOs and two or three product launches and according to Guru Assassin version 1 was a successful niche marketer before.

          So this is a bit of hype. But, hey, we are all used to that.

          We then get video sales proof of his sales and sales copy about why we should trust him.

          Actually, it's a good sales page, I think, that can be used as a good template. We get quite a lot of story, which might be true or partially true, or spun. Who knows. THat's business.

          He then sets out the Modules.

          In regards to what he says Module 1 contains, having read the stuff and seen the videos, it does contain what is says. Always a bonus.

          Module 2 breaks down a series of business models that you can follow and Module 3 has a huge number of Videos on how to do just about everything on setting up Clickbank accounts, setting up Paypal, an opt-in page, adding Aweber etc.

          He also provides templates to copy and a video on how to use them.

          So, so far so good. What he says he will deliver in terms of information, he does.

          So the Sales page, apart from being hyped, does not particularly over-sell the product like some. It does NOT pretend to be advanced or to appeal to advanced marketers. It does not say you need to buy other things and then recommend you do.

          Now, onto the content.

          You pick a niche by picking popular products - so its product and less niche driven.

          Basically, the system recommends building a list in a variety of ways and growing it, depending on from where you start. If you have nothing, he gives you several methods to build up to something.

          You in the meantime create your own products and sell them as WSOs and on Clickbank. He tells you how to get proof if you are starting out and other good ways of building credibility.

          He provides a series of spreadsheets on tracing JV partners and 'Gurus' to get them to help you promote your product and gives examples of failure and success.

          He gives you a large number of Videos on how to set everything up.

          It also should be noted the content is virtually completely different from that in the first package which I also own.

          Verdict

          The product is very good for people who wish to go into info product creation models and sell to their list.

          Inanswer to the question above 'have you bought it and have you made money' it's not really an instant cash producing system - it will take at least a week, I reckon. A week of actual work.

          It is not a 'push this button and a million dollars' will flow into your account kind of system. I don't think Jonny is selling is as such.


          If you have several successful WSO launches under your belt, operate in a variety of niches, do your own product launches and are already making several thousand bucks a month, this isn't for you.

          I like the fact that it doesn't pretend to be that, unlike other launches I have commented on.

          If you follow it, I believe you will have a fighting chance of success, particularly is you fail and keep going. What I also like is Jonny doesn't pretend it's all going to be easy or push button.

          It's a system he offers with template sand guides and material to copy and emulate along the way. But it takes WORK and hard work too.

          So, all in all, I have no regrets. It gave me some good ideas and also was a good motivational piece for me.

          Go for it, I'd say to any fence sitters.

          And in case anyone is wondering, my reviews are honest. If I hate a product, I say so and why.

          Enjoy!
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          • Profile picture of the author nolachief
            great review, simon, thanks for the info. i have, and really like, syphon system. Still on the fence for GA.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
    Just a fast FYI: I'm doing a big-ol update in Module II for everybody because one of my buyers had a great idea...

    That comes out tomorrow.

    I'm also doing a live "Thank You" call on the 3rd for everybody who picks up a copy... We'll do a Q&A and a whole bunch of stuff to see who has what questions.

    Then we'll have cake!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yankabilly
    Hey Jonny
    John & Brandon here, just wanted to let you know we ordered your Guru Assassin and we have enjoyed it so far. We do like your style it comes across in a funny way, which we believe takes some of the IM persure off of learning. (Thank God) a good laugh never hurts anyone...

    We feel that what it has to offer is Solid Infomation that will help us and if not Jonny your 60 day Guarantee says it all. To all that are looking for the pie in the sky who knows, this may even be what your looking for.

    No matter what course you take if you don't take ACTION it won't work and this one has alot of MEAT in it to chew on. So now you have to decide for yourself if this course is for you.

    About the money part!
    With just two days into it, No we have not made any money yet!
    Will we? Yes but it will take us some time, because we are setting up some things as we go.

    Jonny thanks so much, and we know that if we need help you'll be there for us and that means a whole lot.

    Take Care
    John & Brandon
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  • Profile picture of the author SheraLee
    Hi, I am new here, however, I have started out online with affiliate marketing.

    I was going to promote Guru Assassin; however there is a problem for affiliates. When you promote this product, you only have one chance to sell the item, which is when the potential customer first lands on the page. If they do not buy, but sign up for the free video, the customer then becomes 100% a non-affiliate sale.

    Before I choose a product, I signup for the free item through my own affiliate link and see what happens. With all of Jonny's products, you are not given credit if they sign up for the free item on his page; you are only given credit if they buy the first time. This is why I cannot understand why there are so many people promoting this product. All they are doing is sending free traffic to the owners, with no compensation, as well as, building up the owners mailing list. The affiliate page for this product gives emails to send out to your own list, but again, if your list signs up for the free video then they get the same emails from jonny through his own link, which is no-credit for the affiliate.

    The product may be very good, but as an affiliate, you actually want compensation for your hard work in promoting it. This does not happen with this product. I also tested another one of his products through my affiliate link and I got an email after sign-up that led directly to his partner's product with 100% profits going to the partner. His products may be great, but I don't know why affiliates would want to promote them, as there is nothing in it for them - except for maybe a person who buys instantly without getting the free item.

    If there is an experienced affiliate marketer out there who can explain why so many affiliates are promoting this, please let me know. I really cannot understand this. Is everyone just hoping for that one instant sale?

    Thanks for any input! :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      Originally Posted by Vivre View Post

      Hi, I am new here, however, I have started out online with affiliate marketing.

      I was going to promote Guru Assassin; however there is a problem for affiliates. When you promote this product, you only have one chance to sell the item, which is when the potential customer first lands on the page. If they do not buy, but sign up for the free video, the customer then becomes 100% a non-affiliate sale.

      Thanks for any input! :confused:
      How does the customer then become a 100% non affiliate?

      It's Clickbank, cookie is about 90 days as I remember. Once you send them there even if they go back a month later after adding themselves to his prospect AR, you should still get credited.

      He's not going to shoot himself in the foot and steal commisions from his affiliates.

      If there is an experienced affiliate marketer out there who can explain why so many affiliates are promoting this, please let me know.
      I've had the usual folks in that ring send me promo emails, Alex G & Dave, not been spammed on this one.
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      • Profile picture of the author SheraLee
        [quote=SimonHarrison;480603]How does the customer then become a 100% non affiliate?

        It's Clickbank, cookie is about 90 days as I remember. Once you send them there even if they go back a month later after adding themselves to his prospect AR, you should still get credited.

        He's not going to shoot himself in the foot and steal commisions from his affiliates.
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        I don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but I have tested signing up for the freebie. If someone signs up for the free video, they then receive emails promoting the product. If they order from any of these emails, the order form says [Affiliate = none] at the bottom of the form. This is what I meant by 100% non affiliate sale.

        The only way the order form comes up as a credit for the affiliate is if the customer orders the first time on the page, or saves the affiliate's link.

        I believe most people assume that all systems work as they should and so, do not test anything first. I believe his products are very good, but the testing I have done doesn't do much for affiliates. Perhaps this is a ClickBank issue.........I'll have to check it out with them, as well.
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        • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
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          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

          How does the customer then become a 100% non affiliate?

          It's Clickbank, cookie is about 90 days as I remember. Once you send them there even if they go back a month later after adding themselves to his prospect AR, you should still get credited.

          He's not going to shoot himself in the foot and steal commisions from his affiliates.
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          I don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but I have tested signing up for the freebie. If someone signs up for the free video, they then receive emails promoting the product. If they order from any of these emails, the order form says [Affiliate = none] at the bottom of the form. This is what I meant by 100% non affiliate sale.

          The only way the order form comes up as a credit for the affiliate is if the customer orders the first time on the page, or saves the affiliate's link.

          I believe most people assume that all systems work as they should and so, do not test anything first. I believe his products are very good, but the testing I have done doesn't do much for affiliates. Perhaps this is a ClickBank issue.........I'll have to check it out with them, as well.
          I see, yes that is strange, I would contact him directly, definatley concerning. I'm sure he will want to know, not good karma for the affiliates.
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    • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
      Originally Posted by Vivre View Post

      Hi, I am new here, however, I have started out online with affiliate marketing.

      I was going to promote Guru Assassin; however there is a problem for affiliates. When you promote this product, you only have one chance to sell the item, which is when the potential customer first lands on the page. If they do not buy, but sign up for the free video, the customer then becomes 100% a non-affiliate sale.

      Before I choose a product, I signup for the free item through my own affiliate link and see what happens. With all of Jonny's products, you are not given credit if they sign up for the free item on his page; you are only given credit if they buy the first time. This is why I cannot understand why there are so many people promoting this product. All they are doing is sending free traffic to the owners, with no compensation, as well as, building up the owners mailing list. The affiliate page for this product gives emails to send out to your own list, but again, if your list signs up for the free video then they get the same emails from jonny through his own link, which is no-credit for the affiliate.

      The product may be very good, but as an affiliate, you actually want compensation for your hard work in promoting it. This does not happen with this product. I also tested another one of his products through my affiliate link and I got an email after sign-up that led directly to his partner's product with 100% profits going to the partner. His products may be great, but I don't know why affiliates would want to promote them, as there is nothing in it for them - except for maybe a person who buys instantly without getting the free item.

      If there is an experienced affiliate marketer out there who can explain why so many affiliates are promoting this, please let me know. I really cannot understand this. Is everyone just hoping for that one instant sale?

      Thanks for any input! :confused:
      Hold up there dr!

      That's 100% not true.

      ClickBank cookies last for a very, very long time and I'm certainly not doing anything to take money from my affiliates.

      In fact, since my goal was to get as much CB gravity as possible it would have been beyond stupid for me to snatch those cookies!

      Dude, my entire online success has been based on the fact both sides make money when people promote my stuff!

      So yea, I'm not sure where you're getting your info... but it aint right.

      I've been promoting this to my new list and all the partners who sent traffic... if that traffic joined my list they are STILL getting credit for the sales.

      Example: I know Goad mailed 2x for this... but he did not mail again today. Yet he's making A LOT of sales right now.

      This is because my autoresponder series follows up and if that prospect buys the original sender of that traffic STILL gets credit.

      Seriously, I'd be out of my mind to try to strip cookies! Do you have any idea what that would do to my crediblity in the market?!?! Good lord! I would have to be a lobotomized horse corpse to pull a stunt like that!

      Having this be a ClickBank issue is far more realistic. I've had those dorks blow out on multiple occasions and am STILL getting emails from some poor family who can't get the credit card processing page to work.

      Nothing I can do about CB. I wish I could because it's obviously costing me money... but such is life.

      Hope that cleans it up a bit.

      If the cookies aren't sticking it's NOT because I'm doing something personally. Like I said: That would be pure INSANE.
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        I agree with Johnny. There is so much negativity and conspiracy theory on here sometimes.
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      • Profile picture of the author SheraLee
        Originally Posted by JonnyAndrews View Post

        Hold up there dr!

        That's 100% not true.

        ClickBank cookies last for a very, very long time and I'm certainly not doing anything to take money from my affiliates.

        In fact, since my goal was to get as much CB gravity as possible it would have been beyond stupid for me to snatch those cookies!

        Dude, my entire online success has been based on the fact both sides make money when people promote my stuff!

        So yea, I'm not sure where you're getting your info... but it aint right.

        I've been promoting this to my new list and all the partners who sent traffic... if that traffic joined my list they are STILL getting credit for the sales.

        Example: I know Goad mailed 2x for this... but he did not mail again today. Yet he's making A LOT of sales right now.

        This is because my autoresponder series follows up and if that prospect buys the original sender of that traffic STILL gets credit.

        Seriously, I'd be out of my mind to try to strip cookies! Do you have any idea what that would do to my crediblity in the market?!?! Good lord! I would have to be a lobotomized horse corpse to pull a stunt like that!

        Having this be a ClickBank issue is far more realistic. I've had those dorks blow out on multiple occasions and am STILL getting emails from some poor family who can't get the credit card processing page to work.

        Nothing I can do about CB. I wish I could because it's obviously costing me money... but such is life.

        Hope that cleans it up a bit.

        If the cookies aren't sticking it's NOT because I'm doing something personally. Like I said: That would be pure INSANE.

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        Hi there Jonny, I have tested it all again with a new hoplink & email, and it is still not working for me; however another product (not yours, Jonny) is not working for me either, so now I have to go through all my products and figure out what is going on. Must be either my system or something with ClickBank. So here was a new lesson for me, and I also owe you an apology for assuming it was only your product; not some other malfunction of some kind. So, MY APOLOGIES !!

        The fact that you were concerned enough to go and test everything shows loud and clear that you truly DO CARE; a rarity in this business. I hope this sets the record straight for all who are reading the thread.

        I have not gone through your entire product as of yet, however since I am having so much difficulty with affiliate marketing, maybe I should use your product to get into something else!

        Take Care.....and thank you for the testing on your end.
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      • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
        Originally Posted by mikeong88 View Post

        You got me distracted my friend.

        Now I got to test it.

        I signed up for the newsletter in the GuruAssassin homepage.
        I then click on the "Thanks" email sent by Jonny and went on to the order page.

        From what I see at the bottom, my affiliate cookie is still working despite exiting and opening my browser again.
        So I guess everything including clickbank is working fine.:rolleyes:

        From what I know, you can't turn the clickbank cookies into Non-Affiliate. The only way is through overwriting the cookie with another affiliate ID.

        Question here: Is your browser clearing cookies by default when it exits?
        I know there's a setting in the new version of IE that can do that. There was a thread in the main forum a while back about all that stuff.

        But I think he was talking about having everything set to "not affiliate" or something. The major issue there is if somebody did do that it would totally shred their CB Gravity.

        Totally a bad idea.

        Truth be told I actually got all paranoid and went through the pages in my autoresponder to see if there was some weird-ass thing I didn't know about. Everything checked out.

        Even cleared my cookies, used another affiliates hoplink, joined my own list and then hit each page individually in different windows. The affiliate ID came up great every time.

        There was an instance a few months go where one of my partners download the sales letter and hard coded their CBID into the actual buy link. (NO idea how they did that) in that case CB did not credit them with the OTO sales.

        THAT was strange, but like I said, the affiliate put my page on his site and did something squirly to the buy link. (against my better advice!)

        So yea, I'm not sure where the issues may have been coming up... and I really haven't noticed a sudden surge of non affiliate sales. Maybe it was just a weird browser or CB issue? Who knows. That stuff can happen.
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    • Originally Posted by Vivre View Post

      Hi, I am new here, however, I have started out online with affiliate marketing.

      I was going to promote Guru Assassin; however there is a problem for affiliates. When you promote this product, you only have one chance to sell the item, which is when the potential customer first lands on the page. If they do not buy, but sign up for the free video, the customer then becomes 100% a non-affiliate sale.

      Before I choose a product, I signup for the free item through my own affiliate link and see what happens. With all of Jonny's products, you are not given credit if they sign up for the free item on his page; you are only given credit if they buy the first time. This is why I cannot understand why there are so many people promoting this product. All they are doing is sending free traffic to the owners, with no compensation, as well as, building up the owners mailing list. The affiliate page for this product gives emails to send out to your own list, but again, if your list signs up for the free video then they get the same emails from jonny through his own link, which is no-credit for the affiliate.

      The product may be very good, but as an affiliate, you actually want compensation for your hard work in promoting it. This does not happen with this product. I also tested another one of his products through my affiliate link and I got an email after sign-up that led directly to his partner's product with 100% profits going to the partner. His products may be great, but I don't know why affiliates would want to promote them, as there is nothing in it for them - except for maybe a person who buys instantly without getting the free item.

      If there is an experienced affiliate marketer out there who can explain why so many affiliates are promoting this, please let me know. I really cannot understand this. Is everyone just hoping for that one instant sale?

      Thanks for any input! :confused:

      Thank God I have stopped my campaign of this product 2 days back. My CTR is high but ZERO sales! Could this be the reason?
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    Quick question Jonny, since this is MY thread hehe.

    "This Is How A Guy Made $29,842.33 In Under 30 Days Strating With No List... No Site... And No Clue..."

    WHO is this guy and what method did he use. He must be some kind of market Einstein.
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  • Profile picture of the author googlerankingexpert
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    Hey there Jonny, love the Guru assassin. Honestly, there is one pdf in there that is worth the whole course alone. I don't like many internet marketing products, because it's all the same info reworded again, but yours stands out. Way to go!
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  • Profile picture of the author blingish
    I'm a relative newbie to IM and I haven't bought many courses. (I don't think.) Infomillionaire, Beating Adwords, Who Loves Money, Inside the List, Wealthy Affiliate member, And most recently Guru Assassian. I have to be honest here, I'm only a couple of days into the Guru Assassian course and for the first time since I started I really feel like I am going to be able to make this work! Jonny knocked it out of the park and I am extremely happy with the purchase! I am not an affiliate of the product but I recomend it. (maybe I'll become an affiliate :-) little difficult to get all of the videos to play, at first, but after watching a quick video where Jonny tells you exactly how to get them, no complaints. Imho it is money well spent. Thanks Jonny
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    Yeah I know what you mean Simon. I have spent almost every hour on this project since I bought it. Bought it on Friday, took two sickdays, heh and now I'm about to get to the point of earning something.

    It's a GREAT program and I reqomend it to everyone, when I bought it I knew NOTHING og IM or anything related but that has changed.

    Thanks Jonny.
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    • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
      Originally Posted by MachineHead View Post

      Yeah I know what you mean Simon. I have spent almost every hour on this project since I bought it. Bought it on Friday, took two sickdays, heh and now I'm about to get to the point of earning something.

      It's a GREAT program and I reqomend it to everyone, when I bought it I knew NOTHING og IM or anything related but that has changed.

      Thanks Jonny.
      Glad you like it! And Simon, than you for the kind review.

      Just remember the call this evening! It'll be good times and fuzzy bunnies.
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      • Profile picture of the author fxmmorale
        Hi,

        This is a great thread that can help newbies with regards what to expect and what they should expect with a newly purchased product.

        With regards to the 'Money Siphon System' and 'The Guru Assassin', both of these products are systematic in their approach to Internet and Affiliate marketing which should automatically tell us that there is work involved.

        It's very rare if at all, that you can digest and implement a system all in one shot. As Jonny mentions in 'The Guru Assassin' : "not to try and do everything in one day or your head will explode". Despite the injected humor, this is very true and that's why so many people jump into something and end up leaving just as fast with their head on fire.

        The Guru Assassin and the Money Siphon System are an excellent one two punch for anyone aspiring to become a successful internet or affiliate marketer.

        If you already own the Money Siphon System, you may remember that a prominent part of the actual strategy was to create info products that you could point back to in case your prospect didn't purchase your affiliate offer. Well what if you don't know how to create a product? This is where 'The Guru Assassin' perfectly fills in that gap, solves that problem and gets you making money.

        So if you buy the Guru Assassin today will it happen for you tomorrow? Forget it. Not unless you have a lot of experience with internet or affiliate marketing and already understand the basics enough to make a profit.

        To sum it up, if you choose to purchase the Guru Assassin, don't expect it to work for you if you're planning to buy something else tomorrow and the next day. Focus on what the product has to offer and give it a real go until it starts bleeding cash for you. If you do that, you'll make money.

        Anyway that's enough of that. Is this an endorsement? Heck yeah, because I've already generated some income with the first system and that's without going full steam yet.

        You're asking the right question, now you've got to take the right action.

        To your success either way,
        Nando

        P.S. Thanks Jonny for the entertainment you provide in your videos and you're style of writing because it can get awfully boring staring at this computer screen. I'll be sure to tip my waitress, in hopes that you'll be back next Tuesday. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author jcisme
        I'm in the process of actually trying the product. BTW I'm not a new warrior member just one whose email changed and wasn't able to log in is jera1968.

        Anyway I've now done part of the GA program and am now to the part of creating my own digital book product a new weight loss technique from my years of training as a neuropsychologist, hypnotherapist, and NLP practitioner so we'll see after I email out to the contact list Johnny has us do.

        However I did join the membership site and now that I've incurred the click bank full membership fee charge there is no longer any support. While the titanium membership site was very lively the first month with email, conference calls etc. now there is nothing. No emails from Johnny, no conference calls, no answers, no promises made fulfilled or even eta dates for them. Basically no-nothing it's as if Jonny has dropped off the face of the earth. So now I guess is where I learn how difficult it is going to be to get a refund on the monthly charge. I will say the present experience with the membership part of the program has become very dissapointing. Therefore my review is although GA does seem to be a viable program....will let you know later if it actually is.....I would say the membership is NOT unless, of course, you enjoy having support tickets ignored.
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        • Profile picture of the author Genechr
          I'm confused. I'm not sure if my questions are getting answered. I'm not trying to be a wiseguy. I just want to know how much more this process is going to cost me. If something is suppose to be free why should we pay before we get it. The answer to my ticket was keep what I already have. Does that mean forget about getting a free website? The free site is the site Jonny used. I'd like to get it.

          Can anyone tell me how much you've spent before you started making money? Also, what you spent it on.
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        • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
          Originally Posted by jcisme View Post

          I'm in the process of actually trying the product. BTW I'm not a new warrior member just one whose email changed and wasn't able to log in is jera1968.

          Anyway I've now done part of the GA program and am now to the part of creating my own digital book product a new weight loss technique from my years of training as a neuropsychologist, hypnotherapist, and NLP practitioner so we'll see after I email out to the contact list Johnny has us do.

          However I did join the membership site and now that I've incurred the click bank full membership fee charge there is no longer any support. While the titanium membership site was very lively the first month with email, conference calls etc. now there is nothing. No emails from Johnny, no conference calls, no answers, no promises made fulfilled or even eta dates for them. Basically no-nothing it's as if Jonny has dropped off the face of the earth. So now I guess is where I learn how difficult it is going to be to get a refund on the monthly charge. I will say the present experience with the membership part of the program has become very dissapointing. Therefore my review is although GA does seem to be a viable program....will let you know later if it actually is.....I would say the membership is NOT unless, of course, you enjoy having support tickets ignored.
          Morning, doc!

          Sorry to hear you're having such a tough time with all this.

          I had a friend send me a link to this post and I felt it may be a good idea to maybe help out a bit.

          Here's the situation:
          In Feb alone we had 5 calls, all of them are now downloads in the members area.

          In that month I also added 4 new modules including video for full member access...

          ...Hired a full time support staff...

          Just this week you now have total access to my personal, full time site installer so nobody needs to deal with any of the techy stuff.

          Yup, we now install your sites AND autoresponders FOR YOU.

          On top of that there is an ever growing list of PLR stuff + videos on how to crank them out and into your own, unique product.

          This month we're kicking off on Tuesday with live training (again) and this time it's with some killer blueprints and fast action plans.

          All the notifications of these upgrades and updates have been sent via email a few days prior to them going live.

          Have you been reading your emails? If not I would politely suggest you do so... you may be missing A LOT of great info.

          Also... I just checked with my support department and every ticket has been taken care of save for 5... and those 5 are ongoing partnership conversations I'm having with some dudes.

          So I am seriously sorry you're having trouble!

          However, I think you may have confused my site with another. I have not vanished and/or been skimping on the member happy-happy-fun-times.

          Just saying

          Good luck with ya!

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          • Profile picture of the author Genechr
            OK..How do I become a member so I can get my site and autoresponder installed for me? I purchased GA over a week ago and I got 100 dudes entered. What's my next step?
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            • Profile picture of the author millard scott
              I purchased the Guru Assassin a couple of weeks ago and I think it is great! I look forward to reporting in the future how much money I have made with it.

              Really like Jonny's style of injecting humor into his tutorials. It keeps me relaxed and makes the learning process better for me personally.

              All Jonny needs now is a better picture of himself on here....ha ha!
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  • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
    Hi there Jonny, I have tested it all again with a new hoplink & email, and it is still not working for me; however another product (not yours, Jonny) is not working for me either, so now I have to go through all my products and figure out what is going on. Must be either my system or something with ClickBank. So here was a new lesson for me, and I also owe you an apology for assuming it was only your product; not some other malfunction of some kind. So, MY APOLOGIES !!

    The fact that you were concerned enough to go and test everything shows loud and clear that you truly DO CARE; a rarity in this business. I hope this sets the record straight for all who are reading the thread.

    I have not gone through your entire product as of yet, however since I am having so much difficulty with affiliate marketing, maybe I should use your product to get into something else!

    Take Care.....and thank you for the testing on your end.
    Never a problem! Yea, stuff like that would be bad news for anyone and everyone, I can see where you would think that. I'm just glad you changed your mind about me being the son of the devil!

    Now buy my stuff!

    Kidding! But let me know if you need anything

    Time to prep for the questions...

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    • Profile picture of the author SheraLee
      No, you are not the son of the devil - (that would be my dearest and best friend - my dog, Dante). I should have just named him Devil, but Dante sounded better.
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  • Profile picture of the author blingish
    I just finished up my over view of reading the pdfs and watching the module videos. I am going to go back into it again tomorrow, although I have been following along with the program. ( ie: picking a market and starting to build my list.) I have yet to make any money from IM but I have already seen how this course will make it happen. As someone who started out trying to learn as much as possible, This course is spot on! Nothing to get you off track, just good solid information! I cant wait until I can post here and let you all know that I finally made that first $1 online (Other than Ebay) using the techniques in this system!
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    Where do i find this product to check it out ?
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  • Profile picture of the author lrl
    I bought this program. It is one of toooo many. Thank goodness, this made me stop and realize, I had to change my mindset a bit and take some action instead of buying the next great thing that hit the email. The content is great, but the advice about focus is best. I have this quote from one of the PDFs, posted in plain site, "Decide to make your millions.. and then allow yourself to become the sort of person who can."

    It's true, none of the motivational comments are new for me, but for some reason or other Jonny has hit a cord. In addition to the mindset info, the content is very good for those of us who have purchased tons of info, but never got it off the ground. The business models are great to have and the template idea is a big help. Even the product creation videos are great.

    No I haven't made money yet - I just purchased it 2 days ago, but I believe this is exactly what I needed. Jonny comes across a bit flippant and funny, perhaps not my style, but not offensive.

    I highly recommend this product for those who have purchased and purchased, but never put it all together. This may be the one that kicks you into action.
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  • Profile picture of the author mormel
    Hi,

    I'm absolutely with Machinehead: amongst the dozens and dozens ebooks and courses I bought through the years, this is absolutely the best buy. Jonny's videos are great, he cuts right through the crap and gives you different business models plus the tools you need to work with them. There's a very rich score of tools and info, plus the call to action you actually need to get really busy with your online marketing. Other than all these 'turnkey' products, this really makes you trust that there is a gettable way to finally earn substantial money online.
    It's easy to just have a look at the sales page and then cry that this is all a scam. Find out what a great product this is, feel the energy that sparks off it, notice how Jonny keeps his clients at the top of their toes. I'm positively glad I made this purchase. I wish I had come across it earlier: that would have surely saved me some blues...

    Yours, thankingjonnyly, Ed
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    Are either of these any good for anyone without a clue, who has never done anything like this before?
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    • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
      Originally Posted by Zengrafix View Post

      Are either of these any good for anyone without a clue, who has never done anything like this before?
      I don't know about the MSS, but TGA was the first ever "make money online" product i bought. I had NO experience before but after watching the videos and reading the pdf's I feel like I have learned a lot. I haven't made any money from it, but the course did push me in the right direction.

      And now I spend most of my free time exploring the forum trying to learn as much as I can.
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      • Profile picture of the author Agung Prabowo
        well good review.. iwas read from begining lol

        maybe i can work it out with TGA

        **i'm looking for another good revew
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    Hey Jonny, have you got your ceiling fixed yet? I do drywall repair and I'm looking for work.
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    A crazy bathroom thing? I'm afraid to think about that one to much...
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  • I bought the Guru Assassin and I was a total Newbie to this. I would highly recommend this system to anyone who needs to learn about making money online. I have had questions and emailed Jonny as well and he always gets back to you and seems like he truly wants to help. Great good Jonny Love your system (Just wish I could make the kind of money you are making HA HA!) I will keep plugging along and one day I will!
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  • Profile picture of the author Genechr
    I'd like to get the free web site offered at jonnyandrewswebsites.com but do I have to signup for the ISP before I get the free website? I already have an account with another ISP.

    It's like I have to buy the Cheerios before I get the free prize inside the box.

    Is there anyother way to get this free site?
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    Still not quite clear regarding pricing. Is the price an ongoing monthly fee?
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    • Profile picture of the author PeteNY
      Originally Posted by izzymay View Post

      Still not quite clear regarding pricing. Is the price an ongoing monthly fee?
      There is a single product for sale as the "Guru Assassin" and then there is a membership component if you want it.

      Personally there is enough to keep me busy right off the bat with the main "Guru Assassin" product. So, I haven't joined the membership yet. It's refreshing to have a product that actually delivers all the pieces to a puzzle, and doesn't require an additional membership or other products to make it work.
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        • Profile picture of the author PeteNY
          Originally Posted by Cassery View Post

          The product is jam packed. You could work it on its own but you won't know what you're missing - that's what bugs you.
          Cass.
          Oh great Cass, thanks for putting that bug in my head now

          So, does the member area add more to the core course tactic? Or is it just more great stuff to try after I've completed what I have to do for the main course?

          I'd rather put into action what I've already learned first. But, if the membership area will help me do it better... I'd join now.

          Oh, I can't stand it anymore! What am I missing? :confused:
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          • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
            Originally Posted by PeteNY View Post

            Oh great Cass, thanks for putting that bug in my head now

            So, does the member area add more to the core course tactic? Or is it just more great stuff to try after I've completed what I have to do for the main course?

            I'd rather put into action what I've already learned first. But, if the membership area will help me do it better... I'd join now.

            Oh, I can't stand it anymore! What am I missing? :confused:
            You're missing EVERYTHING!!! If you don't act now you're head will explode!

            Kidding.

            Great info, guys! Seriously. I actually come here to see what people are saying about my stuff so I know how to "beef it up".

            Q: Is The Guru Assassin a membership?

            A: No. 1 time thing. Is there an upsell to a membership? Yes! (I wouldn't be an online marketer if there wasn't

            Q: Does the membership add more or is it just a bunch of random content?

            A: When I first launched I wanted to get a feeling for where everybody was. It was pretty much a bunch of live Q&A's + cool content from my friends. I can see how that would appear to be "random"

            Now that I know where most folks area I'm running actual mini training modules that take the core TGA program and flesh it out. Last month I did a complete series on the core TGA stuff.

            That will become part of the buyer autoresponder sequence. You'll see the questions other people have and get to have weekly homework to move you through the course.

            This month I'm building on that and focusing on traffic. This last Tuesday was my Twitter intro. (Pretty sick stuff

            So anyway, every month I'm breaking down an important component of the system and helping people build their businesses from 0 to making money and from there to outsourcing and expanding.

            Hope that clears the air.

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    Ok back to the original question-has anyone bought this product?

    Yes I did and to tell you the truth I was pretty happy with it because it is comprehensive.

    If you are a newbie I would reccommend it because it shows you step by step exactly what you need to do to make money.

    For those that say it's a scam you will probably say this about anything you buy because you are not willing to put in the work, simple truth.
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    I purchased the Guru Assassin and the Money Siphon by Jonny Andrews. I really think BOTH are brilliant. I keep referring back to the Money siphon on a regular basis. There is so much information in these two products that I would not recommend them for someone just getting started in internet marketing. I also recommend that each product be studied in small Bytes<grin>... They could cause your eyes to bleed otherwise. I have reviews on both products
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  • Profile picture of the author Genechr
    I'm currently using the auto responder I received when I signed up with Ultimate Marketing Center. I'd like to know if anyone has used this auto responder with GA and if so, how was this done.
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  • Profile picture of the author donatrengel
    I have a question. Is it absolutely necessary to have a paypal account for GA to work. I am from Croatia and have very limited access to paypal, but I have a working alertpay account. Will that do?
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    • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
      Originally Posted by donatrengel View Post

      I have a question. Is it absolutely necessary to have a paypal account for GA to work. I am from Croatia and have very limited access to paypal, but I have a working alertpay account. Will that do?
      Yo! Donatrengel. Did you get my email on that one?

      I use things like PayPal/ClickBank as examples only. You can use 2CO, Alert Pay... powerpay.biz... I don't care!

      Obviously if you can't get PP you can't use something like PayDotCom, but that leaves a whole range of other options opened to you.

      Hope that helps!

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    Also, there were a number of people who had bought it and were working it, I sure would like to hear back and know if anybody actually DID implement what they learned and DID profit?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Genechr
      I've had GA for a few months and I've been trying to follow the advice Jonny has in here. I guess that if you become a member you will receive advanced help getting GA off the ground. I'd like to know if anyone has received help without paying the monthly membership fee. I can understand that if questions get answered in this forum this might become a problem. By that I mean, some of the answers will offer those who haven't payed for GA an unfair advantage.

      I'm trying to use GA to make some money that I can use to advance to a level that will help pay some of my bills. So far I haven't reached the next level. I'm sure that if I keep going in the direction I'm in I'll reach my goal soon.
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      • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
        Originally Posted by Genechr View Post

        I've had GA for a few months and I've been trying to follow the advice Jonny has in here. I guess that if you become a member you will receive advanced help getting GA off the ground. I'd like to know if anyone has received help without paying the monthly membership fee. I can understand that if questions get answered in this forum this might become a problem. By that I mean, some of the answers will offer those who haven't payed for GA an unfair advantage.

        I'm trying to use GA to make some money that I can use to advance to a level that will help pay some of my bills. So far I haven't reached the next level. I'm sure that if I keep going in the direction I'm in I'll reach my goal soon.
        Think you may be asking the questions in the wrong area

        Most of the folks who are doing well with this have moved on from the "product review" section and are now building their own pages.

        You may even start seeing a lot of those products being discussed here soon.

        To kill off that other question about "does anyone get help outside the monthly stuff" the answer is... it depends.

        If a person hits me with a solid, intelligent question showing they've #1 read the materials and #2 have started taking action... then yea. I have no problem giving a little hand.

        The people I simply delete are the idiots who buy the program and then submit a support ticket 10 minutes later and say something like...

        "Okay, I bought the program. What now?"

        Total waste of my time.

        But just to be safe, if anyone like that reads this post I'll take a moment and answer that last question:

        OPEN UP THE MATERIALS AND START READING!!!!

        To be more on point with the question about taking time to help outside of the monthly OTO...

        My time is valuable. Not saying that to be a jerk, I'm simply saying it because it's true. Back in the day I could waste 5-6 days a week helping people with every sort of problem they had.

        Now I have 40K+ people clambering for my attention at any given moment. In reality less than 10% of them have a real desire to begin working on the materials let alone see it through to success.

        The reason I spend my time working with people who pay me is two fold:

        #1: It shows that individual cares enough to invest in themselves.

        #2: While I'm a very nice guy I'm still running a near 7 figure business. I didn't go from homeless/broke to making that kind of cash by not investing my time in actions which create income.

        Because I'm still ironing out some issues with that identity theft from a few years back I'm at the mercy of lower price point processors.

        Because of that my "fee" is less than $70/month. However... as soon as my lawyer is done with those social security stealing miscreants...

        ... I think you get the picture. (Rodrigo you b*st*rd! I'm comin' for ya!)

        Anyway, I hope that clears the air for anyone who had a question. Just to be safe though I'll do a fast recap:

        Question: Does this stuff work?
        Answer: Yes. If you take the time to actually DO IT. If not then you'll fall in with the legion of lazy dorks who like to complain.

        Question: Does Jonny help people if they're not paying him?
        Answer: Yes. Somtimes if I have time. IF you ask intelligent questions and make a solid go of the materials.
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        • Profile picture of the author Genechr
          I'm surprised my thread got that much of a reply. I understand that your time is money and I know I sound like I'm trying to get something for free. All I wanted to know is if other people, who have purchased GA can assist those needing help on a smaller scale. I have several simple questions and I was wondering if there is anyone out there I can ask without spending $70/month. I'm just starting with GA and can't afford the $70. When I start making the kind of money I know this program can make I'll purchase The Money Siphon System.

          I've started making a little money with GA, but I'd like to make it my only source of income. The program does work!! I'd just like to have someone there to help with the stupid questions.
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          • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
            Originally Posted by Genechr View Post

            I'm surprised my thread got that much of a reply. I understand that your time is money and I know I sound like I'm trying to get something for free. All I wanted to know is if other people, who have purchased GA can assist those needing help on a smaller scale. I have several simple questions and I was wondering if there is anyone out there I can ask without spending $70/month. I'm just starting with GA and can't afford the $70. When I start making the kind of money I know this program can make I'll purchase The Money Siphon System.

            I've started making a little money with GA, but I'd like to make it my only source of income. The program does work!! I'd just like to have someone there to help with the stupid questions.
            Sure dude. Toss them to the help desk (link on the DL Page)
            and tell my assistant I said to have them forwarded to me personally.

            Reference this thread.

            But all in all there's no reason to try asking here... I'm not in the
            forum all the time. You need to start by asking the questions
            where the questions should be asked.

            Use that thinking in the rest of your online biz and I think
            you'll see a HUGE change.

            Rather than ask a bunch of random people if something can be done...

            Why not just do it and find out?

            If you're looking for a specific result you need to take
            actions which will make it happen.

            Does that make sense?
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            • Profile picture of the author Genechr
              Jonny,

              Thanks for the reply. I will try not to ask too many nutty questions. I know that your system works because I am making some headway. The only thing I need is go in the right direction. I've read and re-read the material and I've gone off the path a few times. I need to get back on the right track so that I can get members to subscribe to my site. This is where I need the most help. Thanks again for your input.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrunoPisano
    Is there a WSO download link to "Commission Blueprint" for a lower price than the $67 per month?
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