SEO Link Monster - Has anyone tried it?

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I just got an email from Brad Callen announcing the launch of his blog network -"SEO Link monster"

Has anyone tried it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Amitywill
      Originally Posted by PartainSr View Post

      Guys, page rank isn't everything. In fact, I think page rank is way over rated these days.These sites have either page rank and/or age. I think aged domains could be more of an indicating factor than pr. Some sites I've seen in the network are 7+ years old. These sites have earned google trust. Page rank can easily be manipulated, but age can not.
      True, which is why I'm going to sign up anyway and give
      it a try.

      My main problem is that 14 or 42 links per day is just not enough
      because I have lots of sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingChad
    This is just a blog network right? Like BMR?

    I wonder how they justify that price tag? It seems very steep when there are other options out there.

    I did sit in on the webinar last night and it was funny. All the talk about building the networks was super accurate but what she didn't mention was that building your own network of sites is much more effective than having a mass network that hundreds or thousands of people use and spits out tons of links every day.

    Not saying this doesn't work as I have not tried it but I'd be interested to see if it truly is worth the $147/month to send out spun content to a blog network.

    Currently I belong to a few and I found that the tight restrictions on a network like BMR has kept the network integrity higher and produced better results for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Munch
    The thing I liked most about this network was the domain age diversity - they've got a real good mix in there.

    The usefulness of networks like these come in helping you fine tune anchor text diversity and focus (to help you rank for a specific keyword), but most importantly getting a lot of links to a domain from different C-class IP domains.

    Lots of C class subnet links is the MAJOR ranking factor for a website and countless test have shown that when it comes to link building.

    As always I recommend that you don't pump junk content into networks like these, and make sure that you have other ways to get links too (linkbait being my favorite) so that you have good link diversity - and don't be too aggressive with any one strategy. I've found that the best way to rank higher.

    This is a higher price tag so it won't be for everyone. If you have a good few sites (or plan to build them), then networks like these are great for pumping up your link diversity and C-class IP count to get you higher rankings. Many pro SEOs tend to jump on multiple networks like these which gives them a major competitive advantage.

    SEOLinkMonster stands out for its high indexing rate and aged domains.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    It does look good. I'm gonna jump on board tomorrow and give it a bash.

    James Scholes
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    I know Brad will be in here shortly to answer many questions that come up, so to save time, maybe I'll ask some here (since I'm curious) and everyone can also get responses.

    1) Is this using any of the same sites from the SEO Link Vine Network?

    2) Are these sites the same / similar to the Elite SEO Link Vine Networks? If not...how do they compare vs the Elite network?

    3) How does the submission process differ from SEOLV--one of the main complaints being that articles would go for weeks/months at a time with very few distributions made

    4) Is it possible to create sub-accounts for outsourcers to login and submit articles through?

    Looks great either way, just curious (hard to keep up with the weekly blog network launches these days, lol)

    Cheers,

    ~Dexx
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      I know Brad will be in here shortly to answer many questions that come up, so to save time, maybe I'll ask some here (since I'm curious) and everyone can also get responses.

      1) Is this using any of the same sites from the SEO Link Vine Network?

      2) Are these sites the same / similar to the Elite SEO Link Vine Networks? If not...how do they compare vs the Elite network?

      3) How does the submission process differ from SEOLV--one of the main complaints being that articles would go for weeks/months at a time with very few distributions made

      4) Is it possible to create sub-accounts for outsourcers to login and submit articles through?

      Looks great either way, just curious (hard to keep up with the weekly blog network launches these days, lol)

      Cheers,

      ~Dexx
      Hey Dexx, sure. I'll take a stab at your questions...

      1) Is this using any of the same sites from the SEO Link Vine Network?

      No. Absolutely none of the sites that are in SEOLinkMonster are in seolinkvine. We own 100% of the sites that are in SEOLinkMonster, whereas with seolv the sites are owned by other members. So we have full control over every single site in the network, and they're hand-picked based on a bunch of different seo factors (not just pr, not just history, not just age, etc... but a combination of all). This is why the indexing rate of the publishes/links is so high! most of the users are seeing around 80-90% indexing rates without doing anything other than adding their articles and links to our network.

      2) Are these sites the same / similar to the Elite SEO Link Vine Networks? If not...how do they compare vs the Elite network?

      They are similar to the "types of sites" in Elite as they are purchased in the same general way in terms of what seo factors we look for prior to buying them but they are NOT the same sites at all. They are 100% different. Each individual Elite network AND this network have totally different sets of sites.

      3) How does the submission process differ from SEOLV--one of the main complaints being that articles would go for weeks/months at a time with very few distributions made

      Because we own ALL the sites, there is NO approval process and you are guarenteed to be submitted to 14 unique blogs PER DAY. Now if you have 1000 articles in your own account's queue (which we highly discourage... it's definitely not good seo practice anyway), then it may take a while to get through all of them, but we do guarantee the 14 publishes per day.

      4) Is it possible to create sub-accounts for outsourcers to login and submit articles through?

      We currently do not have a sub-account system in place, but this is something that we can probably add in the future when we have updates to the system.

      thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author stev
        Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

        Because we own ALL the sites, there is NO approval process and you are guarenteed to be submitted to 14 unique blogs PER DAY.
        So there's no approval process, quality control in place? So a member can post garbage so to speak? How can quality of this network be assured if poor/scraped/duplicate content is allowed and even guaranteed to be posted!? How long will it take before the network will lose its power because of this as it's definitely NOT "what Google wants in 2012".

        And what are the requirements of the articles and links anyway? 150 words, 300 words, ... can we use spin syntax? Do we get submission stats and report? Is the full article posted on home page or just an excerpt? How many blogs are in the network? Did I miss these BASIC questions somewhere? Really... is it so difficult these days to post a useful demo video!? rather than posting a boring and useless sales video full of hype!?
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  • Profile picture of the author AUKev
    It looks like a fabulous service and a couple of Warriors that have NEVER led me wrong on a product are promoting this, so it has my attention. My question is, with 14 submissions per day, realistically, how many sites can benefit from this service? Obviously it will depend on competition, but I would need to be able to target several sites to justify the cost.

    Is there an option to add additional submissions for additional cost in the future (without paying full price for a second membership)?
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    • Profile picture of the author D Baker
      Originally Posted by AUKev View Post

      It looks like a fabulous service and a couple of Warriors that have NEVER led me wrong on a product are promoting this, so it has my attention. My question is, with 14 submissions per day, realistically, how many sites can benefit from this service? Obviously it will depend on competition, but I would need to be able to target several sites to justify the cost.

      Is there an option to add additional submissions for additional cost in the future (without paying full price for a second membership)?
      Keep in mind that every article can have up to 3 different links so with 14 daily submissions you can get 42 links created. You don't have to target just one site with every article (and I wouldn't recommend adding more than 2 links to the same domain).
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
    stev,

    Yes there is policing on crap content and violaters will get a quick boot! And what we have discovered is that the MOST important thing when using blog networks like this is to make sure the quality of YOUR content wrapping the link is well written. Yes you can spin, but make it good, and yes you get submission stats and reports. Full articles are posted on homepage and there are currently 5000 sites and as we speak we are scaling to 10,000 (and we'll be adding even more later), so you will not hit the same blog for two years.
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  • Profile picture of the author McCoy
    We're building a website right now and maybe I'm going to try that,. hope it's effective..
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  • Profile picture of the author purplestallion
    Hi Matt

    It'd be great if there were some examples of best practice for article submission based on the type of site (i.e. new, monster) etc...

    Prob not the place for it, but i did pay, get access and now it says my email address isn't correct even though i have both the clickbank receipt email and confirmation email from brad with it in it.

    Look forward to trying it when i can get access.

    Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
      Originally Posted by purplestallion View Post

      Hi Matt

      It'd be great if there were some examples of best practice for article submission based on the type of site (i.e. new, monster) etc...

      Dan
      You're in luck, Dan. There actually is a big section on Best Practices, depending on the type of site you're trying to rank for. This has been on the Instructions Page in the members area. It's where we recommend that EVERYONE start because you don't want to try to do SEO for a new site the same as you would a site that already has age and incoming links. There's definitely a change in strategy depending on what you're trying to rank.

      About your tech question... please head over to http://www.seolinkmonster.com/support/ and submit a ticket with your receipt. We've got all of our support staff over there and dedicated to answering questions. They'll get you sorted out asap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Hey Matt, any chance of seeing a screenshot or demo video of the submission form to see what the process looks like (or the format it looks for content to be entered in)?

    Also is there any pricing plans for members who'd like to submit more content / receive more links? (i.e. those promoting multiple websites in different niches)

    If I understand correctly its 1 article a day (from the queue) sent out to 14 sites, and each article can have 3 backlinks in it (what the word requirement for an article to receive 3 links...any minimums?)

    ~Dexx
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      Hey Matt, any chance of seeing a screenshot or demo video of the submission form to see what the process looks like (or the format it looks for content to be entered in)?

      Also is there any pricing plans for members who'd like to submit more content / receive more links? (i.e. those promoting multiple websites in different niches)

      If I understand correctly its 1 article a day (from the queue) sent out to 14 sites, and each article can have 3 backlinks in it (what the word requirement for an article to receive 3 links...any minimums?)

      ~Dexx
      Hey Dexx, you can use spin tags like { text1 | text2 | text3 } in that format when adding articles. The spintax is very similar to other networks out there.

      As far as pricing plans go... we may offer some upgraded plans for people to allow them to get 28 or 42 submissions per day, but this isn't on the frontend plan yet. It may be an upgrade that we add in the members area for current members who feel they need more submissions. It would be a higher priced upgrade obviously, but it's something that a few of our members have already asked for. The questions usually come in from our active members who are really serious about seo and ready to bump up their seo even more. Any questions regarding this, I'd suggest you head over to our support desk and make a request. Our staff are the ones personally handling it. ( http://www.seolinkmonster.com/support )

      About the article submissions... No, you can add more than just "one article per day". But no matter how many articles you add, you will be guaranteed 14 publishes per day. Since we post an article to 14 blogs per day, that could be overkill for some brand new sites or sites that have hardly any links pointing to them in the first place... so let me take some tips from our members area that we give to users who are trying to start out "slow"...
      Types of sites that you may want to start slower with
      New site or
      exact match domain site or
      Local geo + keyword site

      To start out slower so you do not get 42 links per day, you can of course dilute your article feed in three ways.

      - Put articles into your feed that have NO links. The system will take those articles and publish them too. So instead of getting an article published with 3 links in it, your article would not have any links. Thus, you dilute your link building.

      - Put fewer links in your articles. Same as above, but instead of 0 links in the articles, you will have just a few. Thus, slowing down your link building.

      - Link to multiple related sites within each article. This way, you will still put 3 links per article, but instead of linking to the same site each time, you can link to a totally different website. This would space out the number of links that you're getting to each site.

      Here's an EXAMPLE:

      To get 21 links per week to ONE site, you could create 14 articles to post. But instead of putting 3 links in each article, you would just add one link to 3 of those 15 articles.

      Every day, you're getting 14 publishes. So about 3 of those publishes would have links in them. By doing it this way, you get 3 links per day from different websites... making 21 links per week.

      Then the following month you may want to increase it to 10 links per day. To do this, you would have 10 articles out of the 14 with a single link in them and so on.

      This way, you can gradually scale up your links as time goes on to the full amount of approximately 1260 per month.

      I say all of this and we give examples like this to walk users through the link building process depending on the type of site they're trying to rank. The strategy varies from site to site, but SEOLinkMonster works really well for all types of sites. You may just need to adjust your own link building strategy slightly depending on what site you're trying to rank.

      One of the biggest hurdles with SEO-ing for a new site, or a site that has never had much link building done to it in the past is thinking that rankings are going to happen over night. SEO is a gradual process for these types of sites, but using SEOLinkMonster with the right strategy will get you top rankings. Now, if your site has a lot of links already and you're pretty stable in your rankings in Google, then go all out with getting the max links per day. Remember, these are high quality links, so Google puts more emphasis on them.

      If you are using SEOLinkMonster as your ONLY source of links, then you should put non-targeted and URL based anchor text links to your site(s) in the articles you submit. With our testing, the general rule is 40% of your anchor texts should be non-targeted keywords OR URL as anchor text.

      We have more tips and "Best Practices" like this in the members area Instructions page, broken down by the type of site or ranking strategy that you're trying to follow.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Okay, I've just pinched my nose and jumped in... See how it goes!

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  • Profile picture of the author alexshawn
    Just in and get 14 links yesterday

    The domains are ages but no pagerank

    And they are not be indexed when I search the domain in Google (site:domainname) .

    I dont know is it working or not?

    Will still try and tracking rank in 30 days.

    Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author freestufffinder
      Originally Posted by alexshawn View Post

      Just in and get 14 links yesterday

      The domains are ages but no pagerank

      And they are not be indexed when I search the domain in Google (site:domainname) .

      I dont know is it working or not?

      Will still try and tracking rank in 30 days.

      Alex
      I signed up to SEO Nitro recently which is run by the same guys. EXACTLY the same problem. Around 60% of the blogs on their network are DEINDEXED.

      So... I started a support ticket expressing my concern - NO REPLY.
      These cowboys are here for one thing and that is to take you cash and get out. They don't accept paypal so it looks like I am going to have to try and get a refund from my CC provider.

      Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

      if any of the sites in the network get de-indexed for random reasons, we remove them instantly.
      Matt
      Sorry but unless this network is handled differently to SEO Nitro then that it complete and utter rubbish. NOT HAPPY AT ALL. I advise all to avoid these guys like the plague and stick to networks like BMR who have a real reputation. If you have read something good about SEO Link Monster... my bet is that is was probably one of their affiliates who wrote it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stan
    I'm interested in this.
    Did I get this right:

    You get 14 publishes per day, is this a minimum or a set amound?
    Are all those 14 publishes seperate articles or 14 versions of a spun article?
    What seperates SEO Link Monster from ALN, AR, BMR etc.?

    Let's say I have 5 new sites, how would you go about setting up articles for them?
    From what I just read it's borderline science

    Thanks!
    Just an inch away from signing up! The price is steep, but hopefully worth it.
    Seems I've been doing it all wrong for new sites... Never too old to learn!

    Just an inch away from giving it a try. Seems really great.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
      Originally Posted by Stan View Post

      I'm interested in this.
      You get 14 publishes per day, is this a minimum or a set amound?

      Let's say I have 5 new sites, how would you go about setting up articles for them?
      From what I just read it's borderline science

      Seems I've been doing it all wrong for new sites... Never too old to learn!
      Yes you get 14 publishes per day and it is a set amount. We recommend to use the best content you have for each article as in our experience that works the best.

      I can't speak of the quality of the other networks, all I can say is that we own ALL the domains so there is NO approval process by site owners like there is in a lot of the others. Each site has been purchased with Age and Authority and that = Trust in Google's eyes and because of that, (as I write this) we have an outstanding avg 88% index rate with is pretty unheard of.

      About your specific SEO questions for your sites specifically... this is stuff that our trained SEO specialists love to help members with over at our help desk.

      I quickly mentioned this in my last reply... but if you have any other similar specific questions like this, I'm happy to answer them but I can't guarantee that I'll be on the forum all that much. It takes away a LOT of time from all of our projects, including working on seolinkmonster. This is why we have a hired DEDICATED help desk specifically for seolinkmonster and our networks. If you have any questions at all, please just head over to http://www.seolinkmonster.com/support and they'll help out way faster than I"ll be able to get back to the forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdrianMansilla
    Hey Matt,

    This work with anchor text in other languages or must be in english?
    same for content

    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author jon poland
    Matt:

    I am very interested in SEO Link Monster -- but I do have a couple concerns. You allow spun content. Let's face it, spun content is almost always crap content. If you allow a bunch of spun content on your properties, are you concerned at all about your properties losing authority and Google PR because of the inferior content on the sites?

    Also, from what I understand some of Dori's networks have been hammered by Google in the past. What measures are being put in place to insure that this does not happen with SEO Link Monster?

    I know Dan Theis and Leslie Rohde (two guys who know quite a bit about SEO) are not big fans of blog networks. From what I understand Dan and Leslie believe that Google will be going after blog networks sometime soon. Are Dan and Leslie just paranoid or do they have good reason to feel the way they do?

    Matt -- you, Brad and Dori know a ton about SEO and I do appreciate the expertise the three of you have in this area. I'd really like to get SEO Link Monster and start realizing some of the benefits of your service. However, I do have some concerns about the potential risks involved.

    Matt, I'd love your thoughts on this. Any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.

    Jon
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
      Originally Posted by jon poland View Post

      I know Dan Theis and Leslie Rohde (two guys who know quite a bit about SEO) are not big fans of blog networks. From what I understand Dan and Leslie believe that Google will be going after blog networks sometime soon. Are Dan and Leslie just paranoid or do they have good reason to feel the way they do?

      Matt -- you, Brad and Dori know a ton about SEO and I do appreciate the expertise the three of you have in this area. I'd really like to get SEO Link Monster and start realizing some of the benefits of your service. However, I do have some concerns about the potential risks involved.

      Matt, I'd love your thoughts on this. Any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

      Thank you.

      Jon
      Hey Jon, yeah, Dan and Leslie are GREAT and very SMART guys, but they do tend to be on the paranoid side insanely cautious side of things, and they have been for years. They have been saying blog networks were going out for the last 5 years, all the while we all know it is almost impossible to rank for any type of competitive term without them.

      Don't know where you heard that Dori's networks have been hammered by Google because most of her customers have been with her for years... BUT, that being said, if any of the sites in the network get de-indexed for random reasons, we remove them instantly. That's one of the cool things about owning all of the sites. We can control them 100%. Most other networks out there have sites owned by other users, so you can't really "control" them near to the extent that we can.

      About spun content, we do currently allow spun content, but we may change that or change the way we allow it, depending on the content that our users add. The quality of this network is #1 to us. In our personal TESTING experience (yes, real testing, not just guesses), the better the content that is directly surrounding the link, the more Google likes the link. And, we are recommending that everyone follow suit. And of course there still will be the spinners. The good news is we have experienced really good results as long as OUR content is good. Also, PR is derived from incoming links not content, so it doesn't even matter if there were NO content on the page, the PR will remain in tack.

      thanks.

      ps if you have any other questions like the ones you raised here, please head over to our help desk here: http://www.seolinkmonster.com/support/ . I'm not on this forum all that much as I'm busy with all of our projects, but I can guarantee that you'll get a quick and informed response from one of our SEO specialists at the help desk. This is a new help desk with only trained seo's who really know how to use our networks effectively. Definitely the best place to get an answer.

      Matt
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      • Profile picture of the author jon poland
        Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post


        About spun content, we do currently allow spun content, but we may change that or change the way we allow it, depending on the content that our users add. The quality of this network is #1 to us. In our personal TESTING experience (yes, real testing, not just guesses), the better the content that is directly surrounding the link, the more Google likes the link. And, we are recommending that everyone follow suit. And of course there still will be the spinners. The good news is we have experienced really good results as long as OUR content is good. Also, PR is derived from incoming links not content, so it doesn't even matter if there were NO content on the page, the PR will remain in tack.

        thanks.

        Matt
        Matt:

        Thank you for taking the time to reply. I'm sure you've been extremely busy the past couple days with your launch.

        I'm glad to see that the quality of the network is your #1 priority. That does ease some of my concern.

        Your point regarding PR being derived from incoming links and not content is valid. However, if there is a plethora of spun content (i.e. poor content) on the network, the network certainly will pay a price at some point, won't it? Look at the recent panda updates from late last year. Didn't a number of article directories fall out of favor with Google because of the poor quality content that was posted in these directories?

        While directories like Ezine Articles did not lose their PR, their traffic decreased significantly and their backlinks are not nearly as powerful as they once were.

        Matt -- you and your team know this stuff much better than I. I just hope that quality control of the spun content remains high. I'd love to see you eliminate the spun content and place high standards on the content that is allowed. As someone who is seriously considering the purchase of SEOLM, I want to see your service be a "long-term" success. In my opinion placing and keeping high standards on the content helps insure this. Just my two cents.

        All the best with the launch, Matt.

        Sincerely,

        Jon Poland
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Hey Matt, sorry if I missed this in a previous answer, but if we only upload ONE article each day, that article still gets submitted to 14 sites correct?

    We don't need 14 different articles to be able to be published the 14 times? (Just wanted to double check)

    I'd be using high quality spun content, so I'm not concerned about any red flags over quality...just quantity, heh

    ~Dexx
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  • Profile picture of the author bestbuddy1986
    Hi All,

    After reading many reviews about BMR, i was going to buy it but yesterday received email from Brad about his new launch Seo Link Monster.

    So i decided to give it a try..

    I always love to read case studies, so though of writing it for others this time.

    I am starting this case study on 6 months old website promoting amazon product.

    Website Details :-
    1. 6 months old domain
    2. PR 1
    3. EMD .net
    4. Exact Search :- 1300
    5. Current Position :- 20, 2nd Page
    SEO Link Monster :-


    1. Submitted 3 articles yesterday. ( 3 links/ article )
    2. Total :- 9 links/ Main keyword.
    Now waiting for links to get distributed and then indexation.


    I will keep all of you updated with this case study.


    If any queries post here...please don't PM.
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    • Profile picture of the author bestbuddy1986
      Originally Posted by bestbuddy1986 View Post

      Hi All,

      After reading many reviews about BMR, i was going to buy it but yesterday received email from Brad about his new launch Seo Link Monster.

      So i decided to give it a try..

      I always love to read case studies, so though of writing it for others this time.

      I am starting this case study on 6 months old website promoting amazon product.

      Website Details :-
      1. 6 months old domain
      2. PR 1
      3. EMD .net
      4. Exact Search :- 1300
      5. Current Position :- 20, 2nd Page
      SEO Link Monster :-


      1. Submitted 3 articles yesterday. ( 3 links/ article )
      2. Total :- 9 links/ Main keyword.
      Now waiting for links to get distributed and then indexation.


      I will keep all of you updated with this case study.


      If any queries post here...please don't PM.

      STILL NO IMPROVEMENT IN SERP.
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
        Originally Posted by bestbuddy1986 View Post

        STILL NO IMPROVEMENT IN SERP.
        Hi, after taking a look at your account, we noticed that you are using the completely wrong spintax code and the majority of your articles that you were trying to post to the network for your "case study" were filled with miscellaneous characters throughout the article.... EVEN including in your anchor text that you were trying to rank for. Because of all of these errors you had, you won't be able to rank for the keywords you are targeting.

        Your case study was flawed from the beginning.

        Because of all of these errors, we also need to remove your articles that have been posted to protect the integrity of the network.

        I would suggest fixing all of these articles and update your anchor texts before moving forward.

        Matt
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        • Profile picture of the author bestbuddy1986
          Hi Matt,

          Only 2 articles where not in proper syntax. That too i fixed.

          Other than this all anchor text to articles published are proper.

          I see ur trying to defend ur network instead of improving it.

          Still im getting no results, i don't want to carry faulty case study.

          Daily i check distributed articles, PR is from 0 to 2 only.

          Articles are being posted no complaints for it, but i cant see any improve in serp.

          Lets hope for best.

          Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

          Hi, after taking a look at your account, we noticed that you are using the completely wrong spintax code and the majority of your articles that you were trying to post to the network for your "case study" were filled with miscellaneous characters throughout the article.... EVEN including in your anchor text that you were trying to rank for. Because of all of these errors you had, you won't be able to rank for the keywords you are targeting.

          Your case study was flawed from the beginning.

          Because of all of these errors, we also need to remove your articles that have been posted to protect the integrity of the network.

          I would suggest fixing all of these articles and update your anchor texts before moving forward.

          Matt
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
            Hi,
            You're right, of course I'm "defending" our network... because I believe in it, and I know it works if used properly. I just want to make sure that everyone is on the same page here with your case study since a lot was not mentioned originally.

            I know that the majority of people reading forum case studies like this already know that there are a LOT of other factors involved that may not be made public, especially since not all variables in this particular "experiment" were provided and there were issues that happened at the start of it, but yet weren't noted until my last post.

            A few major things I noticed with your campaigns (that I would highly suggest adjusting) are that you're linking solely to your homepage in every single link. There is absolutely no inner page linking. This is not good. Also, you mentioned to me that for this case study, you're trying to rank for ONE keyword. When I looked at your account, you had several articles in the system and only the first few articles had that keyword anchor text link in them. All of the others had different anchor texts, and they only had 1 total link in the article. The way the system works is that you get 14 posts per day, no matter how many articles you have in there. So if you have 28 articles in there, then on day 1 your first 14 will be posted. Then day 2, the second 14 are posted... and so on. SO if you're only adding one link in your articles, and not every time is that link to the site you're trying to rank for, it's going to take you a while to build links for that specific anchor text.

            Here are just a few suggestions that will help your campaign...

            1. reduce the number of articles you're using so that you can get quicker posts on the first initial articles you have in the sytem. However, if you reduce the number of articles then I would suggest spinning the articles, but make sure that the content surrounding your links is high quality.

            2. a few days later, go in and edit your articles to new content.

            3. link to some inner pages on your site. Don't only link to your homepage. This is definitely not natural in the eyes of Google. Especially for a new site like yours.

            4. if you're trying to rank for the domain: http://yourdomain.com , do not randomly change the links of your anchor text to http://www.yourdomain.com . Yes, Google will in a sense "count these differently". You need to either stick with www or with no www. Don't mix and match. I noticed you were doing this a few times.

            5. Use your main anchor text at least once in each article. Then for the other anchor text links that you want to add to the articles, use a variation of them, or also throw in some non-related keywords... like your domain url as the anchor text. You should be trying to get approximately 60% related keywords for the keyword anchor texts you're wanting to rank for. Then shoot for about 40% non-related anchor text keywords... this can be things like "yourdomain.com" or "http://yourdomain.com" or "click here to learn more" or "more info over here". Notice they don't have your main anchor text in them.

            6. I didn't check all of your articles, but I did see a few that had errors in the anchor texts, in that you hyperlinked a few random spaces BEFORE and AFTER the anchor text. This shouldn't have much of an effect, but since you're trying to make this an accurate case study for people to follow, I would suggest fixing this.

            I hope some of this helps.
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            • Profile picture of the author vstar650
              Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

              Hi,
              You're right, of course I'm "defending" our network... because I belive it it, and I know it works if used properly. I just want to make sure that everyone is on the same page here with your case study since a lot was not mentioned originally.

              I know that the majority of people reading forum case studies like this already know that there are a LOT of other factors involved that may not be made public, especially since not all variables in this particular "experiment" were provided and there were issues that happened at the start of it, but yet weren't noted until my last post.

              A few major things I noticed with your campaigns (that I would highly suggest adjusting) are that you're linking solely to your homepage in every single link. There is absolutely no inner page linking. This is not good. Also, you mentioned to me that for this case study, you're trying to rank for ONE keyword. When I looked at your account, you had several articles in the system and only the first few articles had that keyword anchor text link in them. All of the others had different anchor texts, and they only had 1 total link in the article. The way the system works is that you get 14 posts per day, no matter how many articles you have in there. So if you have 28 articles in there, then on day 1 your first 14 will be posted. Then day 2, the second 14 are posted... and so on. SO if you're only adding one link in your articles, and not every time is that link to the site you're trying to rank for, it's going to take you a while to build links for that specific anchor text.

              Here are just a few suggestions that will help your campaign...

              1. reduce the number of articles you're using so that you can get quicker posts on the first initial articles you have in the sytem. However, if you reduce the number of articles then I would suggest spinning the articles, but make sure that the content surrounding your links is high quality.

              2. a few days later, go in and edit your articles to new content.

              3. link to some inner pages on your site. Don't only link to your homepage. This is definitely not natural in the eyes of Google. Especially for a new site like yours.

              4. if you're trying to rank for the domain: http://yourdomain.com , do not randomly change the links of your anchor text to http://www.yourdomain.com . Yes, Google will in a sense "count these differently". You need to either stick with www or with no www. Don't mix and match. I noticed you were doing this a few times.

              5. Use your main anchor text at least once in each article. Then for the other anchor text links that you want to add to the articles, use a variation of them, or also throw in some non-related keywords... like your domain url as the anchor text. You should be trying to get approximately 60% related keywords for the keyword anchor texts you're wanting to rank for. Then shoot for about 40% non-related anchor text keywords... this can be things like "yourdomain.com" or "http://yourdomain.com" or "click here to learn more" or "more info over here". Notice they don't have your main anchor text in them.

              6. I didn't check all of your articles, but I did see a few that had errors in the anchor texts, in that you hyperlinked a few random spaces BEFORE and AFTER the anchor text. This shouldn't have much of an effect, but since you're trying to make this an accurate case study for people to follow, I would suggest fixing this.

              I hope some of this helps.
              Matt, you forgot to mention, that it's ONLY BEEN A WEEK!

              Seriously Bestbuddy1986, seo takes time and depending on the competitiveness of your keywords, it can take months before you see any results

              I have a website in a tough niche that took nearly 8 months to finally hit page #1 of Google... I invested nearly $2000 in off page SEO , but I never gave up! (fortunately, it's now earning about $1000 per week)
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            • Profile picture of the author jrafique
              Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

              Hi,
              You're right, of course I'm "defending" our network... because I believe in it, and I know it works if used properly. I just want to make sure that everyone is on the same page here with your case study since a lot was not mentioned originally.

              I know that the majority of people reading forum case studies like this already know that there are a LOT of other factors involved that may not be made public, especially since not all variables in this particular "experiment" were provided and there were issues that happened at the start of it, but yet weren't noted until my last post.

              A few major things I noticed with your campaigns (that I would highly suggest adjusting) are that you're linking solely to your homepage in every single link. There is absolutely no inner page linking. This is not good. Also, you mentioned to me that for this case study, you're trying to rank for ONE keyword. When I looked at your account, you had several articles in the system and only the first few articles had that keyword anchor text link in them. All of the others had different anchor texts, and they only had 1 total link in the article. The way the system works is that you get 14 posts per day, no matter how many articles you have in there. So if you have 28 articles in there, then on day 1 your first 14 will be posted. Then day 2, the second 14 are posted... and so on. SO if you're only adding one link in your articles, and not every time is that link to the site you're trying to rank for, it's going to take you a while to build links for that specific anchor text.

              Here are just a few suggestions that will help your campaign...

              1. reduce the number of articles you're using so that you can get quicker posts on the first initial articles you have in the sytem. However, if you reduce the number of articles then I would suggest spinning the articles, but make sure that the content surrounding your links is high quality.

              2. a few days later, go in and edit your articles to new content.

              3. link to some inner pages on your site. Don't only link to your homepage. This is definitely not natural in the eyes of Google. Especially for a new site like yours.

              4. if you're trying to rank for the domain: http://yourdomain.com , do not randomly change the links of your anchor text to http://www.yourdomain.com . Yes, Google will in a sense "count these differently". You need to either stick with www or with no www. Don't mix and match. I noticed you were doing this a few times.

              5. Use your main anchor text at least once in each article. Then for the other anchor text links that you want to add to the articles, use a variation of them, or also throw in some non-related keywords... like your domain url as the anchor text. You should be trying to get approximately 60% related keywords for the keyword anchor texts you're wanting to rank for. Then shoot for about 40% non-related anchor text keywords... this can be things like "yourdomain.com" or "http://yourdomain.com" or "click here to learn more" or "more info over here". Notice they don't have your main anchor text in them.

              6. I didn't check all of your articles, but I did see a few that had errors in the anchor texts, in that you hyperlinked a few random spaces BEFORE and AFTER the anchor text. This shouldn't have much of an effect, but since you're trying to make this an accurate case study for people to follow, I would suggest fixing this.

              I hope some of this helps.
              Another Thing I would like to add here....If you are looking to rank for a keyword say "commission income" then you will certainly optimize your site/post for this keyword but another thing that you need to do is to also optimize your site/post to some extent for another related keyword like "commission revenue" and use it as anchor text few times as well. This will allow you to rank your site for main keyword more easier with long term ranking and will also help you to avoid Google Panda penalty by at least 99% if you are following other Google guidelines.
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            • Profile picture of the author TheTroglodyte
              Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post


              4. if you're trying to rank for the domain: http://yourdomain.com , do not randomly change the links of your anchor text to http://www.yourdomain.com . Yes, Google will in a sense "count these differently". You need to either stick with www or with no www. Don't mix and match. I noticed you were doing this a few times.
              Ugh! Reading stuff like this always makes me sad. This could not be more inaccurate.

              Yes Google reads those different and that's why you change them up. Instead of telling people NOT to do that you should be explaining that they need to 301 redirect one URL into the other.

              Most people nowadays use wordpress blogs anyway which does the 301 redirect by default.

              When people naturally build backlinks to another site they frequently put in or leave out the WWW. So by mixing that up a bit yourself, it helps keep a more natural profile.

              Should someone be doing a 50/50 split? Hell no, of course not but that's where a bit of training on how to do it properly should come in on your part.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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                Originally Posted by TheTroglodyte View Post

                Ugh! Reading stuff like this always makes me sad. This could not be more inaccurate.

                Yes Google reads those different and that's why you change them up. Instead of telling people NOT to do that you should be explaining that they need to 301 redirect one URL into the other.

                Most people nowadays use wordpress blogs anyway which does the 301 redirect by default.

                When people naturally build backlinks to another site they frequently put in or leave out the WWW. So by mixing that up a bit yourself, it helps keep a more natural profile.

                Should someone be doing a 50/50 split? Hell no, of course not but that's where a bit of training on how to do it properly should come in on your part.
                I feel that YOUR statement could not be more accurate.

                Being that they ARE seen differently, you want to do a 301 (that is correct) - but the linking efforts SHOULD be all towards one root domain

                http://www.
                OR
                http://

                Not alternating, not random - just one - or the other. You would to build authority for ONE 'root' of the domain, not 2 or 3.
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                • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
                  Originally Posted by eljeffe77 View Post

                  Being that they ARE seen differently, you want to do a 301 (that is correct) - but the linking efforts SHOULD be all towards one root domain

                  http://www.
                  OR
                  http://

                  Not alternating, not random - just one - or the other. You would to build authority for ONE 'root' of the domain, not 2 or 3.
                  I agree with eljeffe77 regarding the www or without www.

                  @TheTroglodyte, we have a full seo course that users can get within their seolinkmonster members area. SEOLinkMonster itself is not a "training course". It is a link building network. We do have a lot of basic training, best practices, how to use seolinkmonster, a free webinar replay answering all of our user's questions, seo support specialists at our support desk, and other videos explaining how to use seolinkmonster properly.
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                • Profile picture of the author TheTroglodyte
                  Originally Posted by eljeffe77 View Post

                  I feel that YOUR statement could not be more accurate.

                  Being that they ARE seen differently, you want to do a 301 (that is correct) - but the linking efforts SHOULD be all towards one root domain

                  http://www.
                  OR
                  http://

                  Not alternating, not random - just one - or the other. You would to build authority for ONE 'root' of the domain, not 2 or 3.

                  There is only one root domain. You 301 redirect and adjust the DNS. When you do this, there cannot be more than 1 domain so it doesn't make one bit of difference which one gets the backlinks.

                  If you want to be extra cautious about it you can open a Google Webmaster account and instruct them that they are both the same too. This is really unnecessary though once the DNS settings have been updated.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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                    Originally Posted by TheTroglodyte View Post

                    There is only one root domain. You 301 redirect and adjust the DNS. When you do this, there cannot be more than 1 domain so it doesn't make one bit of difference which one gets the backlinks.

                    If you want to be extra cautious about it you can open a Google Webmaster account and instruct them that they are both the same too. This is really unnecessary though once the DNS settings have been updated.
                    At, this is correct - I meant to say one URL - not one root :-)

                    And if you do the re-direct and adjust the dns - voila - problem solved
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  • Profile picture of the author bestbuddy1986
    Update :-

    All posts where distributed to PR1 - PR2 - PR0 blogs.

    But only few posts url got indexed by search engines till now.

    Lets see if it boosts my SERP or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vastidious
    I have a quick question about the number of articles posted.

    You say that "we do guarantee the 14 publishes per day.". Is this per article? So for example, I have 10 websites. I post an article for each site, with links in them to the system. Each day each article is going to be posted to 14 sites? OR all 10 articles will be posted to 14 sites? If it's the first example, then I would have a total of 140 new links created each day.

    Just making sure that I'm not only getting 14 total each day and thus setting up all my sites in the system would be pointless.

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author jon poland
      Originally Posted by Vastidious View Post

      I have a quick question about the number of articles posted.

      You say that "we do guarantee the 14 publishes per day.". Is this per article? So for example, I have 10 websites. I post an article for each site, with links in them to the system. Each day each article is going to be posted to 14 sites? OR all 10 articles will be posted to 14 sites? If it's the first example, then I would have a total of 140 new links created each day.

      Just making sure that I'm not only getting 14 total each day and thus setting up all my sites in the system would be pointless.

      Thanks!
      Steve:

      For the quickest response to questions about SEO Link Monster Matt stated that it's best to contact their support desk. I'm sure you will get a much faster response there. Matt posted the link in his post above.
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  • Profile picture of the author not2shy
    I'm a member of Vitavee ultra spinnable articles. Can SEO Link Monster take Ultra Spinnable articles or just one level spun articles? Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author mybizdeal
      Originally Posted by jon poland View Post

      Steve:

      For the quickest response to questions about SEO Link Monster Matt stated that it's best to contact their support desk. I'm sure you will get a much faster response there. Matt posted the link in his post above.
      I think their support system is filled with lot of questions because i opened ticket over 2 days ago but still no reply! i'm patiently waiting!

      Originally Posted by not2shy View Post

      I'm a member of Vitavee ultra spinnable articles. Can SEO Link Monster take Ultra Spinnable articles or just one level spun articles? Thanks.
      i have submitted 2 level spun articles and it works! As a member so far i'm seeing some good result by using SLM from 7 feb! I Hope it continue well!
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  • Profile picture of the author marcolav
    Joined yesterday, submitted 4 articles, approximately 24 hours ago however I only show 6 publishes.
    But my main concern is that all of the six articles are on sites using the very exact WP theme, with the exact same categories.
    That's not very reassuring in terms of 'integrity of the network'!
    Cam Matt or anybody else from SLM address this?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author shystar
    Matt, my post count is not enough to reply to your message. Can u pm me?
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
    marcolav and MyBizDeal, I sent you guys a PM asking for a couple things. Please reply there since this is a "tech question".

    thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author CikedMarketing
      i submitted an article on feb 8th (over 48 hours ago) and have yet to see anything show up in my "distribution reports" page. additionally, i submitted a support ticket yesterday regarding this and have yet to see a response. i tried looking around the site to see how long it would take for my article to be posted, but no such luck (unless i missed it somewhere).

      either way, i have to say i have been less than impressed so far...
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    • Profile picture of the author mybizdeal
      Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

      marcolav and MyBizDeal, I sent you guys a PM asking for a couple things. Please reply there since this is a "tech question".

      thanks!
      Matt, I can't able to reply to your message because of my post count is not enough to PM!

      Anyway thanks for checking and just now i got response from Dina A, which is
      really helpful! but i would like you to take look of latest update on my ticket #CDM-824-76607. because it is very important error!

      Once again thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author seankaye
        I use SEO LinkVine Elite from Brad and Matt and am not having any of the problems that Frestufffinder is having.

        In regards to support - here's been my experience in the past:

        I had issue with a training video in SEO LinkVine Elite, I sent Dori Friend a quick message on Skype and the next morning she'd replied and my issue was resolved.

        Another time I had an issue where the automation wasn't sending out my posts for about three days. I logged a support ticket, I got a response the next day that the programmers were looking into it, the day after they told me it was fixed.

        Then two days later I received an update telling me that for the next month they were updating my automation streams to 3 for a month to make up for the lost posts.

        Then on day 28 I received an email from support reminding me that my two free "make up" streams would be coming down in 48 hours and to remove my posts.

        I removed them.

        Then one day after, I received an email with a zip file of the streams they took offline in case I hadn't had a chance to do it myself.

        Now, I'm not talking about LinkMonster here sure, but I can't imagine the same people are providing such vastly different services.

        Couple of things to remind people of...

        You get into a blog network for the long haul, your results come over time.

        It is a new service, you'd expect SOME teething issues.

        That said, Matt is here answering every reasonable question by the looks of things and Brad is always kicking around the forum.

        It's also important to remember that disproportionately, the number of people who come on forums are here to complain - that's not saying their complaints aren't legitimate, they most certainly are if support isn't responding and things are broken, but satisfied users are ten times less likely to come online and say something nice. Just human nature.
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        • Profile picture of the author freestufffinder
          Originally Posted by seankaye View Post

          It's also important to remember that disproportionately, the number of people who come on forums are here to complain - that's not saying their complaints aren't legitimate, they most certainly are if support isn't responding and things are broken, but satisfied users are ten times less likely to come online and say something nice. Just human nature.
          I agree with you here Sean but you have to look at the fundamental flaw in their system which I am bringing to your attention - More than half the sites are deindexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
    BigSkeeze, just sent you a PM.

    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author CikedMarketing
      Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

      BigSkeeze, just sent you a PM.

      Matt
      i replied to your pm almost immediately with all the details you needed and still no update from your or on my support ticket even though you have posted and replied to others here on the forum.

      i still do not see anything posted to the network from the article i setup on the 8th....it has been 4 days since i submitted the article and 3 days since i submitted my support ticket.

      i have to laugh at dori's comment about tickets being answered within 24 hours...my ticket has been sitting unanswered since i submitted it on 09 February 2012 01:16 PM...

      go ahead and look it up Ticket ID: VEV-145-35091

      have to say i am not impressed and would like a REFUND of my purchase immediately. i would submit a support ticket, but there is no point as i can't even get a simple response to a support issue. should i not get a refund within 24 hours, i will file a complaint/chargeback to get it.
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      • Profile picture of the author vstar650
        Originally Posted by BigSkeeze View Post


        have to say i am not impressed and would like a REFUND of my purchase immediately. i would submit a support ticket, but there is no point as i can't even get a simple response to a support issue. should i not get a refund within 24 hours, i will file a complaint/chargeback to get it.
        This is a clickbank Product, so getting a refund is Guranteed within 60 days

        Clickbank is fantastic when it comes to refunds and they always grant your request

        Here is a quick step-by-step tutorial on how to get a clickbank refund...
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  • Profile picture of the author alexshawn
    For now I get 64 backlinks.

    But all domains are not indexed by google

    All are no pagerank, just aged (6 months ~ 2 years).

    I submitted ticket 2 days ago, still not get any reply.
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
        Originally Posted by rayalleninc

        Not a very good outcome huh?
        The quote that you quoted was taken 2 days after this user was a member. This user was originally added to a subset of sites in our network that were having some issues with postings. I've mentioned this in a previous response that this issue was taken care of immediately as soon as we were aware of it. We quickly moved this user to a new set of sites in our network. With all of this said, after just 2 weeks, this user left even though he had received 344 successful posts, each containing up to the 3 links per post = 1,032 links.

        Anyway... this was an issue from early Feb that was already resolved a few weeks ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmswans
    I have had SEOLM for 4 days now and here are the results of the SEOLM distribution report

    Day 1, 2 and 3

    15 pr 0
    11 pr 1
    10 pr 2
    1 pr 3
    4 threats detected -couldn't access article to determine page rank
    1 porn site- url is spermswapchicks.com threat detected-couldn't access--- wonder why are there porn sites in this network?

    Day 4 (today)
    no articles have been published



    I submitted 3 tickets the past 3 days and have not yet received a response

    David
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      • Profile picture of the author rdynek
        I have tried to contact through pm here and support system with zero response they do not seem to want to address any questions
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    • Profile picture of the author Dexx
      Originally Posted by dmswans View Post

      1 porn site- url is spermswapchicks.com threat detected-couldn't access--- wonder why are there porn sites in this network?

      Its just the URL name.

      Its a normal blog, regular content, Page 1 ranking.

      ~Dexx
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  • Profile picture of the author pchost
    Hi Matt, can i use My Article Network spin format on SEo Link Monster?

    For example :
    Spin level 1 : { ~ }
    Spin level 2 : [ | ]

    Thanks,
    Adi
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  • Profile picture of the author Stan
    Now that the affiliate craze has settled down the actual 'normal' users seem to come back with mixed results.

    15 pr 0
    11 pr 1
    10 pr 2
    1 pr 3

    That's hardly impressive :/
    Definitely -not- worth 147$ for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author SGWarrior
    I have opened 2 support tickets, first one since 3 days ago and till today there is not a single response and despite submitting 20 articles, I can only see some of my articles distributed to only 7 sites and 1 of the sites is not even working when I click on it (Oops! Page Not Found)..

    I am hoping that all these issues will be ironed out soon and the support team really need to be more responsive to tickets. I will provide another review soon in a week's time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
    Just to give everyone a quick update...

    It looks like there were a few sites that were responding slower than normal, so it was putting some strain on one of the MANY servers that our sites are on. So it was causing a "back up" of some posts for some users. This did not affect every user since posts are made to other sites not on those same servers. I've been notified by our programming team that it has been sorted out and should be working fine now.

    Regarding the lack of response to support tickets... to be honest, I'm really surprised to hear this, as we take customer service very seriously, and always have. I do know that there are a lot of general questions in the support desk, but I'm surprised to hear that it's taking so long for our staff to respond to the tickets. We are going to have a meeting with our support staff and make sure they are responding quicker. This is unacceptable to us.

    If you have submitted a ticket and it wasn't responded to within 24 hours, please know that we're on it, and the staff will get on the ball, as customers are #1.

    thanks
    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author not2shy
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
        not2shy, I just sent you a PM. Your account was fixed this morning. It looks like Clickbank's api didn't send us the receipt ID number prior to your purchasing, so it didn't get attached to your account. It's fixed now.

        rdynek, I just sent you a PM. I just talked to Dori, and she said that she tried replying to your PM three times before she realized she didn't have enough posts on this forum to be able to send it. She also can't post in this review forum either due to the low post count. Anyway, please check your PM from me.

        The issue that you're having is unique to your account. I addressed it in the PM.
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        • Profile picture of the author not2shy
          Hi Everyone

          I woke up this morning and got a PM from Matt Callen saying that my problem has been fixed. Now I can log in and not get asked to pay more money. I've yet to post an article since I've only just woken up.

          Thanks Matt, your prompt attention is much appreciated. I have bought stuff from Brad Callen before (the other Callen brother) and now I can agree that both Callen brothers know how to keep their customers happy.

          Yes I joined SEO Link Monster because of the execellent reputation of the Callen name but I also joined SLM because I believe these blog networks are the way to go post PANDA. As seankaye pointed out, you should join blog networks for the long haul.

          Due to the nature of WF and the IM niche, when these things launch and a massive number of people jumped on board, of course there will be bottleneck and unexpected problems that need to be iron out.

          Once again, thanks Matt

          Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

          not2shy, I just sent you a PM. Your account was fixed this morning. It looks like Clickbank's api didn't send us the receipt ID number prior to your purchasing, so it didn't get attached to your account. It's fixed now.

          rdynek, I just sent you a PM. I just talked to Dori, and she said that she tried replying to your PM three times before she realized she didn't have enough posts on this forum to be able to send it. She also can't post in this review forum either due to the low post count. Anyway, please check your PM from me.

          The issue that you're having is unique to your account. I addressed it in the PM.
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          • Profile picture of the author vstar650
            With all the talk these days about Google de-indexing Blog neworks does it not make sense that If Google wanted to de-index the blogs in the seolinkmonster network, then all they would have to do is open their own accounts, submit articles into the system and then just de-index all the blogs that their articles get placed on? After all they hate to be gamed and they take great measures to prevent it!

            Lets be honest here, how private is a "private blog network" that openly advertises on a forum such as this and offers an open invitation for anybody to join and then supplies a daily submission report of all the blogs that the articles are placed on... in my opinion this kind of transparency offers NO privacy and opens the door to quick discovery!

            Just Curious
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            • Profile picture of the author vstar650
              Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

              With all the talk these days about Google de-indexing Blog neworks does it not make sense that If Google wanted to de-index the blogs in the seolinkmonster network, then all they would have to do is open their own accounts, submit articles into the system and then just de-index all the blogs that their articles get placed on? After all they hate to be gamed and they take great measures to prevent it!

              Lets be honest here, how private is a "private blog network" that openly advertises on a forum such as this and offers an open invitation for anybody to join and then supplies a daily submission report of all the blogs that the articles are placed on... in my opinion this kind of transparency offers NO privacy and opens the door to quick discovery!

              Just Curious
              Matt, Dori, Brad... any comment on this?
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            • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
              Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

              With all the talk these days about Google de-indexing Blog neworks does it not make sense that If Google wanted to de-index the blogs in the seolinkmonster network, then all they would have to do is open their own accounts, submit articles into the system and then just de-index all the blogs that their articles get placed on? After all they hate to be gamed and they take great measures to prevent it!

              Lets be honest here, how private is a "private blog network" that openly advertises on a forum such as this and offers an open invitation for anybody to join and then supplies a daily submission report of all the blogs that the articles are placed on... in my opinion this kind of transparency offers NO privacy and opens the door to quick discovery!

              Just Curious
              Very true, Google could open an account and de-index every site that we report that we posted on. And just like in the case I described above, we looked at that possibility of just that, and if we found that to be the case, I would NOT have hesitated to deactivate EVERY user in that "set" before they moved into a new "set" of sites thus saving the integrity of the network.
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              • Profile picture of the author vstar650
                Originally Posted by DoriFriend2 View Post

                Very true, Google could open an account and de-index every site that we report that we posted on. And just like in the case I described above, we looked at that possibility of just that, and if we found that to be the case, I would NOT have hesitated to deactivate EVERY user in that "set" before they moved into a new "set" of sites thus saving the integrity of the network.
                This is NOT a classic case of David and Goliath.... If Google wants the entire network (and lets be honest, it could happen) they will eventually uncover it.

                And with the new wave of acquiring backlinks through Blog Networks, it is my belief that the newest Google crack-down IS (or will be) towards those networks

                There are several more footprints that Google can easily follow to enable them to detect blogs that belong to networks designed for backlinks, however I won't bother to go into those details in this post because with the transparency that your network offers, Google is getting it served to them on a silver platter if they so choose to go after it.

                Personally, I think your service (being newly introduced) will likely provide some possitive results, However, it is also my personal belief that it will be short lived as Google continues it's crackdown towards such networks.

                I think that past exeriences will predict future experiences... what linking strategies used to work in the past have become inefective today... so will blog networks (in my humble opinion)
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                • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
                  Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

                  This is NOT a classic case of David and Goliath.... If Google wants the entire network (and lets be honest, it could happen) they will eventually uncover it.

                  And with the new wave of acquiring backlinks through Blog Networks, it is my belief that the newest Google crack-down IS (or will be) towards those networks

                  There are several more footprints that Google can easily follow to enable them to detect blogs that belong to networks designed for backlinks, however I won't bother to go into those details in this post because with the transparency that your network offers, Google is getting it served to them on a silver platter if they so choose to go after it.

                  Personally, I think your service (being newly introduced) will likely provide some possitive results, However, it is also my personal belief that it will be short lived as Google continues it's crackdown towards such networks.

                  I think that past exeriences will predict future experiences... what linking strategies used to work in the past have become inefective today... so will blog networks (in my humble opinion)
                  Good post, I agree with the concerns as it concerns me as well!! I have a HUGE amount of $$ in this endeavor and will admit the popularity of blog networks recently (because they work so well) and the wide spread attention SLM just got, has me wide-eyed and watching closely. =:0

                  SEO is a moving target on a good day lol, so who knows what the future will hold. It could be that blog networks will discontinue to work, but that day isn't here yet, thank goodness! :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author vstar650
        Sure hope these support issues get ironed out soon.... I think I'll wait it out a bit before I jump on board

        It would be great to hear from more users

        Anybody got some experiences to share?
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        • Profile picture of the author Thoma$
          Originally Posted by D Baker View Post

          Keep in mind that every article can have up to 3 different links so with 14 daily submissions you can get 42 links created. You don't have to target just one site with every article (and I wouldn't recommend adding more than 2 links to the same domain).


          Your comment is awaiting moderation.

          Great review, too bad I read it AFTER joining SEOLM otherwise I would sure have joined through your link.

          Anyway the indexing rates ARE indeed very impressive (36 links indexed so far out of 42 articles submitted and this is after less than 24h of submitting the first article).

          However I am thinking maybe the Callen brothers have integrated an indexer into the system to get posts indexed.

          I will wait a few more days and use SEO spyglass to find out if my post urls have backlinks pointing to them.
          Dave, this is the comment I posted a few days ago on your SEO Link Monster review (on your blog) - where you brag about your integrity but decided not to approve and ignore my comment (although you have been very prompt at approving and answering others). Not sure if you were concerned my comment could hurt your conversions since your review puts the emphasis on the fact that the strong point of SEO Link Monster is their high indexing rates.

          Anyways in your review, you mention that PR is not everything and it is important to take into account age and indexing rates. That is certainly true and my only concern was that the Callen brothers might be indexing posts to increase indexing rates (which is a good thing of course but would skew the natural indexing rates tests).

          So Matt I hope you can clear this up, your indexing rates are impressive so could you please confirm that the indexing of SEO Link Monster posts is 100% natural ? So far it seems like my posts have not received any links to help them get indexed but since it's only been a few days, I'd like to be sure.

          Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

          stev,

          Yes there is policing on crap content and violaters will get a quick boot! And what we have discovered is that the MOST important thing when using blog networks like this is to make sure the quality of YOUR content wrapping the link is well written. Yes you can spin, but make it good, and yes you get submission stats and reports. Full articles are posted on homepage and there are currently 5000 sites and as we speak we are scaling to 10,000 (and we'll be adding even more later), so you will not hit the same blog for two years.
          So far 63 of my links (out of 98 submitted) have landed on unique domains, the rest are duplicates (I have submitted 4 articles so far). Out of the 10 PR3 domains, 7 unique domains only. Sounds quite low for a 5,000 blogs network. Any comments Matt/Dori ?


          Thanks,

          Thomas
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          • Profile picture of the author MattBest
            I'm satisfied with the results so far and I'll probably remain using it. High PR diversity is not the best but high amount or aged domain and 88+% indexation rate speaks for itself.

            I'm using it because I have found blog networks are producing the best results for me. But of course you can't expect that one blog network or any other SEO tool alone will give you best possible results. You should always diversify. Always.

            My quick strategy and recommendation
            Test it for yourself if satisfied with the results remain using it, otherwise refund it after the first month. Simple as it sounds.

            @vstar650
            I've wrote you in another thread that this is not how Google operates/works at all.
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            • Profile picture of the author vstar650
              Originally Posted by MattBest View Post

              @vstar650
              I've wrote you in another thread that this is not how Google operates/works at all.
              Hey Matt,

              The only reply I have been able to find from you says: "Well Google can't "open" your account. It doesn't work that way."

              See your reply here


              I havn't got a clue what you mean by that, I never said anything about "Google opening my account".... I said they could simply open their own accounts and eventually uncover the entire blog Network and de-index them all

              Keep in mind that warrior forum is the larget IM forum on the internet and their is no doubt in my mind that Google officials browse the forums regularily... why wouldn't they... it's a quick and cost effective way of learning the latest gaming tricks and techniues

              As I mentioned earlier, Google goes to great lenths to prevent anyone from gaming their system
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              • Profile picture of the author MattBest
                Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

                the only reply I have been able to find from you says: "Well Google can't "open" your account. It doesn't work that way."

                See your reply here


                I havn't got a clue what you mean by that, I never said anything about "Google opening my account".... I said they could simply open their own accounts and eventually uncover the entire blog Network and de-index them all

                As I meantion eralier, Google goes to great lenths to prevent anyone from gaming their system
                I saw your reply vstar and I know what you meant.
                If you think Google will/can do this that's fine with me. No offense.
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        • Profile picture of the author blend
          The webinar doesn't do anything for me, not enough info etc!
          Just reminds me of a sales pitch from clickbank or something eh?..
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  • Profile picture of the author rdynek
    I am thinking that a lot needs to be addressed with this system and network before it lives up to its hype. I have asked about PR of the sites as all but one of mine was N/A and none of them were indexed YET. I have sent in my support tickets, pm all parties on WF and yet still nothing. I think a lot of us were eager to get in on something based on the participating parties and their past reputation but this so far is a bust.
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  • Profile picture of the author freestufffinder
    Did I mention that the SEO Nitro package I'm on costs $497 per month... ouch!
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  • Profile picture of the author CyrusRiff
    i'd like to see some positive results here too. Past SEOLV user and Nitro user and although i dont like to complain - i have to agree with FreeStuffFinder. The results don't live up to the marketing and hype and the cost. Had much better results via other methods.

    Still, when i got the email from Brad i wanted to take a fresh new look.

    Hopefully the issues get ironed out soon.

    FreeStuff - you're not still paying that tho right?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheTroglodyte
    I personally am a member of several private blog networks. They work very well and they work very well if strict quality control measures are in place. The question is how well is SEO Link Monster going to be monitored?
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  • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
    @frestufffinder

    About the deindex sites in SeoNitro, we promise 500 PR sites but in actuallity we have that PLUS another 1500 sites to manually link from and then an additional 500 site LOW GRADE network for all types of different linking stratigies.

    We keep non-index sites in the manual network "on purpose" for seo-pros who know that getting links from them are part of the game.

    We do however take any non-indexed sites out of our automation networks.

    I am sorry that your experience was not the same as those customers that stay with me for years, because it does work, and it works well.

    And please, if you want a refund, just ask us, I will be more then happy to accomodate. There is no need to go to the merchant and making it difficult for all involved.

    @mybizdeal, your ticket has been esculated to our programmer.

    @seankaye, Thank You!! And yes, the same EXACT people/staff are managing and supporting SeoLinkMonster.

    Since the launch and the huge exposure that SeoLinkMonster has recieved, we have been hit hard with 1000s of questions from general seo advice to more serious programming issues.

    We work hard on giving each question the attention it deservers, and at times like this last week, it has totally overwhelmed our 4 person full-time support staff.

    Our normal 1-4 hour support ticket turn around turned into an embarressing 48 hour turn around! Everyone is on deck and we are down to a 24 hour turnaround and hopeing to be back to a 1-4 hour turn by the end of next week.

    We are also having a live webinar in the meantime to answer customer questions to help with the support load.

    Another thing I want to address here is the sites that some of the posters have found to be not indexed in SEOLinkMonster. We have spent a ton of time researching that as ALL our sites are purchased with PR, AGE and at least 1 page already in the index. So it was really baffeling, but what we found was in these "sets" of sites all occured on 1 particular host. =:0

    So, we are now in the process of moving those sites OUT of the network, and rehosting thos sites on new hosts. They will not be returned to the network until they are re-indexed.

    We are also in the process of moving all customers that were being fed into those "sets" into new "sets."

    If you have found that YOU were part of the group that were fed into one of the affected "sets", I will be happy to extend your trial and give you a free month to thank you for your patience.

    I agree with seankay that blog networks are a long haul strategy. They work incredibly well when intermixed with other methods and mixing tageted keyword links with crap links.

    I hope that hopes!

    Respectfully,
    Dori Friend
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    • Profile picture of the author freestufffinder
      Originally Posted by DoriFriend2 View Post

      @frestufffinder

      About the deindex sites in SeoNitro, we promise 500 PR sites but in actuallity we have that PLUS another 1500 sites to manually link from and then an additional 500 site LOW GRADE network for all types of different linking stratigies.

      We keep non-index sites in the manual network "on purpose" for seo-pros who know that getting links from them are part of the game.

      We do however take any non-indexed sites out of our automation networks.
      STRONGLY disagree regarding links on deindexed sites. I've actually had clients get a spam notice through WMT after having a number of private blogs deindexed from which they had links on.

      Also - I haven't even bothered checking the low grade network I am talking about the so called high-grade network here! If someone bothered to check my support ticket you would know and you would also realise that you have a whole list of the sites which are deindexed on the manual AND high-grade autonetwork.

      I listed for you in the support ticket the following:
      28 out of 50 high-grade automated sites DEINDEXED
      12 out of 19 manual sites DEINDEXED

      As for you taking out deindexed sites - this is clearly either complete rubbish or long overdue. Again, check the support ticket and the deindexed sites I've found are handed to you on a plate.

      Originally Posted by DoriFriend2 View Post

      And please, if you want a refund, just ask us, I will be more then happy to accomodate. There is no need to go to the merchant and making it difficult for all involved
      How? With a support ticket? I am being ignored on the support desk remember! Can someone from support please contact me ASAP to arrange a refund?

      None of this nonsense would even have come to WF if anyone from support had acknowledged my existence in a timely manner.
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    • Profile picture of the author DianaLensbury
      Originally Posted by DoriFriend2 View Post

      @frestufffinder

      Another thing I want to address here is the sites that some of the posters have found to be not indexed in SEOLinkMonster. We have spent a ton of time researching that as ALL our sites are purchased with PR, AGE and at least 1 page already in the index. So it was really baffeling, but what we found was in these "sets" of sites all occured on 1 particular host. =:0

      So, we are now in the process of moving those sites OUT of the network, and rehosting thos sites on new hosts.
      Hi Dori,

      As an aside, are you suggesting that some hosts can get you bad SEO results? I'm about to move 200+ blogs away from 'SEO Hosting' because they keep putting a block on my account (yes, they actually take down all 200+ sites at once!) due to excessive CPU usage (simply put, too many WP installs for their liking even though I'm paying $125/month) and I'm now wondering if my SEO results might improve by getting a top dollar hosting account (Rackspace etc.)

      Diana
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      • Profile picture of the author Thoma$
        Originally Posted by DoriFriend2 View Post

        @Thoma$

        We do NOT currently have a indexer system in place. All indexing is occurring naturally. But this does not mean we won't put an induing program in place in the future as I am currently looking at different system.
        Thanks for the clarification. I think considering the price tag of SEOLM, an integrated indexer definitely wouldn't hurt.
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      • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
        Originally Posted by DianaLensbury View Post

        Hi Dori,

        As an aside, are you suggesting that some hosts can get you bad SEO results? I'm about to move 200+ blogs away from 'SEO Hosting' because they keep putting a block on my account (yes, they actually take down all 200+ sites at once!) due to excessive CPU usage (simply put, too many WP installs for their liking even though I'm paying $125/month) and I'm now wondering if my SEO results might improve by getting a top dollar hosting account (Rackspace etc.)

        Diana
        Yep, hosts are NOT created equal! lol, in our current case, the host has banned IPs, so sites built under those IPs are banned as well. Another horrible thing is what you are experiencing with seohosting! They will shut you down WITHOUT NOTICE, that host has been the thorn in my side all last year! We have migrated thousands of sites off of them!!

        We go through a lot of hosts and because of our special need for 1000s of IPs the picking gets slimmer.
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    • Profile picture of the author YellowGreenMedia
      Originally Posted by DoriFriend2 View Post

      We keep non-index sites in the manual network "on purpose" for seo-pros who know that getting links from them are part of the game.
      Are you saying that links from deindexed pages and banned domains carry any power with them, really is that what you're saying?
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
        Originally Posted by YellowGreenMedia View Post

        Are you saying that links from deindexed pages and banned domains carry any power with them, really is that what you're saying?
        @ YellowGreenMedia
        This is far from the truth. First off, know that this has nothing to do with SEOLinkMonster. Dori was referring to a different system that she has, which is not related to seolinkmonster one bit.

        Secondly, she did NOT mean "de"indexed sites... She was giving mention to "Non" indexed sites. There is a HUGE difference. De-indexed means that it was at one time indexed, and Google removed it. "Non" indexed means that it just hasn't been indexed YET, but it will be indexed. This gives link diversity.

        With that said... this was a totally DIFFERENT network that Dori was talking about. All sites in SEOLinkMonster are indexed. If any ever become deindexed, we remove them immediately and replace them with other sites in our reserve queue that are indexed. We are constantly buying about 30-60 sites every single day. Things change quickly in seo and on the internet, but we've been doing this for years. We know things change, and we're Ok with it. If you think otherwise, then you probably shouldn't be working online. With that said, change is good. Many times it weeds out those who don't know how to adapt.

        We always adapt and we're always trying to proactively be ready for any changes.

        The latest update did deindex a few sites in the network, but in one day's time, we quickly removed all of those sites and replaced them with indexed ones that we had ready, plus we're still building out more as we speak. As I write this (I just triple-checked), 100% of users are getting randomized posts only on indexed sites.

        @Sam12 - none of the upgrades are required. You can skip all of them if you want. They're just extras that can help out. They're all related to link building, but none of them are required to make seolinkmonster work. We'll give you a refund if you're not happy with the link building, but if the only reason you're wanting to receive a refund is because of what you've read a few others say, then I ask that you at least give it a try yourself before coming to any conclusion based off of your assumptions.

        @bestbuddy1986 - I would suggest you delete your post since you put your order ID in it. Please submit a support ticket and our staff will help.
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  • Profile picture of the author bestbuddy1986
    Update :-

    NO SERP Improvement yet..
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Update :-

    NO SERP Improvement yet..
    Oh c'mon... They've only just opened their doors.

    You'll need at least month to start seeing an improvement. Btw, are you using their free Rankerizer? It'll allow you to track the progress of your site's ranking from the day you start using it so make sure to use it asap.

    James Scholes
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
      Banned
      I use networks where I see instant results, absolutely not months, cause after a month your site is long dropped from the homepage. With BMR I see results within days, with high PR society I see results within a week.

      So if you don't see results within 1 week max then the network just sucks, simple as that.

      Apart of that there are much better networks out for the price that SeoLinkMonster charges, to name a few: BMR, LinkAuthority, LinkVana.
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  • I still cant even get access to the bloody thing

    i created a small video to better explain it

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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    have to say i am not impressed and would like a REFUND of my purchase immediately. i would submit a support ticket, but there is no point as i can't even get a simple response to a support issue. should i not get a refund within 24 hours, i will file a complaint/chargeback to get it.
    Just go through Clickbank, they'll give you it... No questions asked.

    I myself, am quite happy so far. Everything working as advertised at my end and my pages are getting indexed surprisingly fast.

    I'll be assessing my rankings just before my next payment to see if it's worthwhile for me to stay a member.

    James Scholes
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    But I will admit... The helpdesk currently sucks! I submitted a ticket a few days ago and it's yet to be answered. Thankfully I figured it out myself and everything working fine.

    However I do believe this is "kinda" understandable as they're in launch mode so to speak. Just as long they get on top of it quickly and stay on top... I'm happy.

    James Scholes
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  • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
    @xxxJamesxxx, thank you!

    @nik0, in my experience from doing all types of linking, it depends on the market and keyword! For a long tail, results are faster and more dramatic, for a very competitive keyword, much longer just to move 1 spot!

    Also, what is your comparative data to make a claim rating SLM to the others?

    @freestuffinder, You are NOT being ignored at the support desk, like I explain above, we are embarresly behind, but no one is ever ignored! Please PM me your identity so I CAN look up your ticket and get you that refund.

    We are also finding post panda that Google is able to detect spun content and that seems to be the common denominator no matte where the posts are going that is causing the Google email. If this is the case in your clients case, then I would sincerely be interested to know.

    @Thoma$

    Originally Posted by Thoma$ View Post

    So Matt I hope you can clear this up, your indexing rates are impressive so could you please confirm that the indexing of SEO Link Monster posts is 100% natural ? So far it seems like my posts have not received any links to help them get indexed but since it's only been a few days, I'd like to be sure.
    We do NOT currently have a indexer system in place. All indexing is occurring naturally. But this does not mean we won't put an induing program in place in the future as I am currently looking at different system.

    i have to laugh at dori's comment about tickets being answered within 24 hours...my ticket has been sitting unanswered since i submitted it on 09 February 2012 01:16 PM…
    Seriously, I looked at the time notations in the ticket system and we were at 24 hours, and yes, I agree, more then that isn't good, and embarrasses me!! :-(
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    • Profile picture of the author freestufffinder
      Originally Posted by DoriFriend2 View Post

      @freestuffinder, You are NOT being ignored at the support desk, like I explain above, we are embarresly behind, but no one is ever ignored! Please PM me your identity so I CAN look up your ticket and get you that refund.
      Ok understood. I was expecting the 24 hour response time and due to the nature of my ticket I assumed noone wanted to handle it.

      Perhaps an auto-response to new tickets stating that you have a high number of support requests due to the new launch might be an idea.

      I can't currently PM as my post count is below 50 so please process a full refund and close the account then update the support ticket below:
      #BFJ-526-40085
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      • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
        Originally Posted by freestufffinder View Post


        Perhaps an auto-response to new tickets stating that you have a high number of support requests due to the new launch might be an idea.
        Good idea!!
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      • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
        Originally Posted by freestufffinder View Post


        I can't currently PM as my post count is below 50 so please process a full refund and close the account then update the support ticket below:
        #BFJ-526-40085
        Your account has been fully refunded.
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  • i bought this product on the day of release and still cant access it

    been 4 days since i received a reply from SEO Nitro support
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    • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
      Originally Posted by high_plains_drifter View Post

      i bought this product on the day of release and still cant access it

      been 4 days since i received a reply from SEO Nitro support
      We have ALL guns on SLM support and I just noticed tickets in the General SEONitro support box are horribly backlogged. Uhhhggg

      Please PM me your ticket number, or email and I will look up and I will set you up.

      Anyone who has a ticket that is older then 24 hours, PLEASE PM me with the ticket number.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DoriFriend2
    @Thoma$

    We do NOT currently have a indexer system in place. All indexing is occurring naturally. But this does not mean we won't put an induing program in place in the future as I am currently looking at different system.
    Thanks for the clarification. I think considering the price tag of SEOLM, an integrated indexer definitely wouldn't hurt.
    They was selling a indexer that plugs into SEO Link Monster as one of the upsells.

    Like what Thoma$ said, for the price, it would be nice to have that built in as default.

    James Scholes
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  • Just wanted to update you in case you didn't get our email last night... your account is all set up and you're ready to roll!
    nice one, will i be reimbursed for the days i didnt get access to the service?


    Here is my first day review

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  • Profile picture of the author marcolav
    There is one major footprint which I have already noted in this thread and mentioned in support tickets as well, which has been my main reason for asking for a refund:
    the sites are ALL using the very same WP theme=
    https://www.elance.com/samples/police-line/23267962/

    I have 46 posts in the system, and all 46 are on blogs using this very same theme, how's that for a footprint??
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    • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
      Originally Posted by marcolav View Post

      There is one major footprint which I have already noted in this thread and mentioned in support tickets as well, which has been my main reason for asking for a refund:
      the sites are ALL using the very same WP theme=
      https://www.elance.com/samples/police-line/23267962/

      I have 46 posts in the system, and all 46 are on blogs using this very same theme, how's that for a footprint??
      Those sites are now in the process of being re-themed. I don't know why they were deployed with the same theme, but we are correcting the issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
    high_plains_drifter, I just sent you a PM. Can you check that and respond to me there? It's easier to talk about this individual issue that way. thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author takahashii
    Absolute garbage network. Joined to check out the sites, looks like most of them are redundant Nitro sites or aged domains with a bit of page rank; either way the sites are of very poor quality (appear spammy) with spurious named URL's. If you think posting spun articles to this network will rank your sites think again.
    Hats off to the people behind this though, I'm sure they will make tons of cash from people signing up!
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  • Profile picture of the author bmcinnis
    I would like to leave a comment on the problems people were having with the support. I, too, submitted a ticket and heard nothing back from them. I ended up PM'ing the owners of the system here on WF. Within minutes of that, I got a response to my problems. Within a couple of hours, I was good to go.

    Look, the fact of the matter is that they rolled out a new product and had problems with it. They certainly aren't the first that have had those problems, and certainly won't be the last. Most of us here know the reputation of Dori and the Callen brothers, and were eagerly looking forward to this. Could they have possibly thought of all the problems that would arise in the rollout...no they couldn't.

    I think they have done a very good job getting things straightened out, since I (and probably a lot of you) have bought things in here with much worse problems.

    As far as results, it is still too early to tell. As far as what I was looking for, and what was advertised, it does that. I am looking forward to submitting more articles and getting more links.

    Good luck all,
    Brad
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveBagasao
    Link Monster is way too pricey in my opinion. This is also from the Callen brothers who seem to be decent guy, but I wasn't too impressed with SEO Link Vine which is also one of their blog networks. I subscribed to SEO Link Vine last year and ended up canceling because none of my articles ever got distributed. Maybe it was just me, but I've never had that problem with other blog networks that I subscribe to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Kringas
    The argument here is which is more effective, spun content or truly unique content.
    There is no argument that the higher the PR sites containing backlins, the better. Seeing only PR0 to PR2 sites on the SEOLM network so far with the same monthly subscription price as Linkvana (which gives you PR2 to PR5 links), makes me think that LV is the better deal.
    But, you know what they say.. the proof is in the pudding - or ranking.
    I am testing both right now and will see which one I like better.

    thanks for all the valuable input here!
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  • I posted this in the other thread and thought it belongs here to so here is my review of my first week of using SEO Link Monster

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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    I've got to say i LOVE it so far. It's VERRRRRRRRRRY easy to use, too easy in fact. I Have been a member since day 1, and I have seen some of my sites rankings increase already. One of my sites was NOT in the top 10 pages (though it used to be) and using NOTHING but SEO Link Monster, I've got it back to #3 organically in google now for a HUGE product that is going to be announced later this year.

    Point is, this is a medium competitive term already and SEO link monster is working very nicely. Even better - it's AUTOMATED. You enter your article, and it's just hands off.

    I got pretty excited after seeing this jump in just over a week - so I just spent 30 minutes adding articles/content for 10 or 12 more of my campaigns. I HIGHLY recommend this.

    Jeff Lenney

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../seorawrrr.jpg <---Quick Members area screen shot showing the new campaigns I added today. Seriously loving this guys, cant say enough good things about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author rightwrite
    I, too, have used it since day 1 and have yet to see any jumps. Hoping it will be soon. It is very easy to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thoma$
    The indexing rates seemed way too good to be true. Today I check my 238 live posts with SEO Link Monster and oh surprise... only 43 out of 238 are still indexed, meaning most of my posts have actually been DEINDEXED by Google.

    Ok sometimes for some reason Scrapebox can't be trusted, there is something wrong with proxies etc... so I check manually four of the blogs with the command site:"www.website.com" and all four of them have been completely deindexed by Google... sure isn't going to do any good to my websites.

    You guys better come up with a good explanation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
    @Thomas, that's really strange. The system has only been open for 2 weeks so getting 283 posts published seems a bit high to be indexed already since we provide 14 posts per day to users. Anyway... I just sent you a PM.
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    • Profile picture of the author Thoma$
      Originally Posted by Matt Callen View Post

      @Thomas, that's really strange. The system has only been open for 2 weeks so getting 283 posts published seems a bit high to be indexed already since we provide 14 posts per day to users. Anyway... I just sent you a PM.
      Hi Matt, actually it is 238 live posts, and I used to have an average of 80% indexing rate (until last week when I last checked my indexing rates).

      The reason why I have so many posts is because you guys posted more than the 14 daily posts on the very first few days of my subscription (I had about 50 live posts live after about 35 hours the day SEO Link Monster went live).

      Just answered your PMs, I'll send you my username so you and your team can take a closer look.
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  • Profile picture of the author rightwrite
    My sites have gone down a spot or two in rank. I am hoping this changes FAST. I see no improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stan
    Im glad I waited. Once again the hype seemed to be based on commission, not function.
    I'll keep an eye on this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author fictionaldamo
    I used this for my Twitter Market site and went from the 1st page to #1 in about two weeks. I am so new at this so this was a thrill but take my success with a grain of salt since I am a newbie. However, all 3 bigs Google, Yahoo and Bing rank me #1.
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by fictionaldamo View Post

      I used this for my Twitter Market site and went from the 1st page to #1 in about two weeks. I am so new at this so this was a thrill but take my success with a grain of salt since I am a newbie. However, all 3 bigs Google, Yahoo and Bing rank me #1.
      Care to name your site please?
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  • Profile picture of the author jonoman1
    I hate leaving negative reviews of services on here, but I feel like I need to let everyone know what's going on with SEO Link Monster for me right now.

    Yes, the sites in the network are mostly PR0 (which has been explained away as the Godaddy parking curse), but that's not even the biggest problem right now.

    I signed up for SEO Link Monster from day one, and have now seen a startling trend. Not only are my article pages being deindexed, but entire sites within the SEO Link Monster network.

    I checked all 240+ sites with scrapebox and then couldn't believe that almost EVERY article page was deindexed so I checked them manually and saw every site that I checked was deindexed in Google.

    Looks like quality control was not exactly a top priority for this network, and it's showing. I have lost any rankings that I had from this service and must call it a bust at the moment, which is a shame because I really wanted to add this service into my arsenal. But for the extra $147 a month, there are MUCH better options, and no I'm not selling anything.

    I hope they get things straightened out, but when sites start getting deindexed like this it can take a LONG time to recover and start over again.
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    • Profile picture of the author VeitSchenk
      as of yesterday, all 3 sites I've put into the system are tanking BADLY!

      to the extent that I'm starting to think that Google is not only discounting the links from the SEO link-monster network, but also punishing my sites for getting backlinks from the network.

      of course I can't be 100% certain that it's SEO link monster, but let me put it this way:

      I put 3 sites in, keep all other backlinking the same, and ONLY the sites that are getting SEO link monster backlinks are going down big time.

      I'm not a happy puppy

      Veit
      Originally Posted by jonoman1 View Post

      I hate leaving negative reviews of services on here, but I feel like I need to let everyone know what's going on with SEO Link Monster for me right now.

      Yes, the sites in the network are mostly PR0 (which has been explained away as the Godaddy parking curse), but that's not even the biggest problem right now.

      I signed up for SEO Link Monster from day one, and have now seen a startling trend. Not only are my article pages being deindexed, but entire sites within the SEO Link Monster network.

      I checked all 240+ sites with scrapebox and then couldn't believe that almost EVERY article page was deindexed so I checked them manually and saw every site that I checked was deindexed in Google.

      Looks like quality control was not exactly a top priority for this network, and it's showing. I have lost any rankings that I had from this service and must call it a bust at the moment, which is a shame because I really wanted to add this service into my arsenal. But for the extra $147 a month, there are MUCH better options, and no I'm not selling anything.

      I hope they get things straightened out, but when sites start getting deindexed like this it can take a LONG time to recover and start over again.
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      • Profile picture of the author cc422
        Veit - I'm experiencing the same dang thing. I am not happy. Apparently the sites that have been discovered by G have been deindexed. Those of us with links on those sites have been sent message through G - webmaster tools.

        I write valuable copy - not garbage and my rankings have tanked for those sites that I was using this to publish articles.

        This wasn't my only link source - of course.

        But I'm not happy at all - I've deleted all the articles I had in there so that they stop posting.

        I've read in various forums that SEO L M has been continuing to post to deindexed sites which further compounds the situation.

        Their position is do nothing. Stay the course - not for me. I'm outta there.
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        • Profile picture of the author JayC81
          Originally Posted by VeitSchenk

          as of yesterday, 3 sites I've put into the system are tanking!
          ......
          Veit, heck if this were the case for me, I'd remain a member and go nuts adding all of my competitors sites into the system. If there were a service to do this, I'd pay big bucks to reduce the rankings of my competitors. When their rankings go down, mine would go up naturally. But if it were that easy, I think everyone would be doing it... And that would totally skew all of google's search results, which they obviously wouldn't like.

          So I doubt it's as simple as that. But who knows
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  • Profile picture of the author rjd1265
    I was going to check this out but seems to risky now. For $147 a month there should not be this many negative factors. I use BMR now and love it and that is half the cost and I have not seen one problem thus far after my 6 months of use.
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Blandford
    Can anyone who is using SEO Link Monster find their posts indexed by doing a quotes search for the titles of their articles? (E.g. "Article Title")

    When I first started using this link network it was freaking awesome. The first few days my sites would move up after almost every posting. And I could find my posts listed in Google. It was the best network I had ever used.

    However, last night I started doing quotes searches on all my titles and can't seem to find a single post indexed in Google anymore. My sites are no longer moving up and many are even dropping spots which would make sense if the sites aren't being indexed and/or have been de-indexed.

    It's a big red flag when I can't find my posts in Google. And I don't seem to be the only one. (See jonoman1's post above)

    I don't know what has happened, but I was wondering if anyone else out there was experiencing something similar or if anyone else was able to find most of their posts doing a quotes search on the title.

    I really hope this thing starts working like it was in the very beginning because it was killer the first few days. Now I'm not really sure what to think...
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Kringas
      Originally Posted by Derek Blandford View Post

      Can anyone who is using SEO Link Monster find their posts indexed by doing a quotes search for the titles of their articles? (E.g. "Article Title")

      When I first started using this link network it was freaking awesome. The first few days my sites would move up after almost every posting. And I could find my posts listed in Google. It was the best network I had ever used.

      However, last night I started doing quotes searches on all my titles and can't seem to find a single post indexed in Google anymore. My sites are no longer moving up and many are even dropping spots which would make sense if the sites aren't being indexed and/or have been de-indexed.

      It's a big red flag when I can't find my posts in Google. And I don't seem to be the only one. (See jonoman1's post above)

      I don't know what has happened, but I was wondering if anyone else out there was experiencing something similar or if anyone else was able to find most of their posts doing a quotes search on the title.

      I really hope this thing starts working like it was in the very beginning because it was killer the first few days. Now I'm not really sure what to think...
      I just tried with a few of my "post titles" and it worked fine. results appeared for new posts and those I published a few weeks ago. Not sure why yours aren't showing up but I can say the network is definitely not bug free.
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  • Profile picture of the author blogmarketer
    Very unhappy.

    I signed up on the first webinar. We were promised a bonus "extra 100 sites" that we, as first joiners, would have that others wouldn't. I haven't seen anything about it since.

    More critically, when I first started submitting articles, SEOLM would show you the links were they were placed. After a few days, I'd randomly check them, and I would find link after link going to an empty 404 page. When I contacted support, I was first told "our programmers are aware of this problem and are working on it".

    When I followed up days later, I was told "don't worry, your links are there, it's a bug in the reporting that appends 'seolinkmonster' to the url". None of my url's had anything appended, I could get to the site, but there was no article there - or anything else.

    Then I was told, don't worry your links are being distributed. Really, we don't even have to show you the links, no other service will do that".

    Lo & behold, SEOLM no longer shows you the links where your articles are supposed to be. Why? It's a trivial matter. Except if there are problems with the network and you aren't reliably getting your links.

    Now, the system no longer shows you the links. Instead, you get a table showing: Article Title, # of links in article, Anchor Texts Used, Date Published, Age of Site, and Thumbnail....

    Except, most of mine show "n/a" for # of links and anchor text. Besides, why wouldn't you show the links, especially if you're showing all that? Only reason I can think of - the system isn't reliable, and many links aren't happening.

    It's a pity, I thought of Brad Callen as one of the 'good guys'. Unfortunately, as the 'front man' for this, I've lost my respect. They're still marketing the heck out of SEOLM - while those of us who signed up sit with a half-baked product.

    I'll be refunding.

    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Callen
    Hi Kim, I'll try to address each of your issues here and be as transparent as possible...

    @webinar bonus... Dori mentiond this a few times at the end of the webinar about how to get the bonus and when it would be delivered. The scheduled time frame is for March. It takes a little while to create the network of bonus sites properly. We had to purchase additional domains and create a new subset of sites specifically for these bonus users. Submit a ticket to our support dept in mid-March with a copy of your clickbank receipt, asking about this bonus.

    About the 404 page... this showed up because of the migration of the sites to a new server and databases. I mentioned this in a different post here in the forum, but there was a small subset of sites in the network that were causing lags in posting times early on. This was a hosting issue and so we immediately pulled all of those sites from that host and migrated them to a new hosting service. With large networks like this, there will always be some lag times, but in this case we felt that moving this set of sites to a new host was the best route for our users.

    About the distribution reports... We have replaced the distribution reports with a new stats reporting tool in order to help protect ALL users and the network integrity from the possibility of someone signing up to SEO Link Monster and then reporting URLs to Google. We found that one small sub-set of URLs were deindexed due to one specific user reporting some URLs to Google. We're proactively moving forward to protect the entire network for everyone and to help increase its effectiveness over the long term. We continually monitor the sites, and any sites that are found to be deindexed or that are losing their original "ranking power" that they had when we bought them, we immediately remove them from the network and replace them with a site from our reserve queue. Again, deindexing of a few sites can happen over time, but we're always on top of it.

    About the "n/a" text next to some of your PAST posts... We described this on the View Stats page too, under the Anchor Text columns in the tooltip. Right now, you may see some past posts that show "n/a" next to the # anchor text links and the anchor texts used. This is simply there because that specific data was not originally saved in our previous reporting for individual posts. This new reporting and stats feature now has more details than our previous one. Starting Feb 24th, we saved all of that data. For posts made after the 24th of Feb, this should show you how many anchor text links were in the successfully published article and what those anchor text keywords were.

    Matt
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Blandford
    Hi Kim,

    Just wanted to clarify that the N/A's you are seeing are nothing to worry about. That's the way it's supposed to be. Any posts made prior to February 24th (I think) will show N/A because the tracking stats weren't in place at that time so there was no data to record. The links still went out prior to February 24th. They just weren't tracking them yet like they are now so you'll see N/A's on all posts prior to that date.

    I just wanted to clarify that's the way it's supposed to be and it's not some sort of error or anything they are trying to hide.

    Honestly, I hope the initial growing pains can be ironed out because I do think they have an amazing product. The first few days were unbelievable for moving my rankings. And I love the look and feel of the site, the member's area, the ease of use, etc.

    I personally just need some answers as to why I can't find any of my posts in the Google index anymore.

    All these types of sites want to "protect the network", but I honestly don't see how that's possible. If they don't give you the links directly, you should still be able to find the posts by searching for the title or by searching Google for a unique sentence/phrase/indentifier in the body of your article.

    If you find the post in Google, you find the site it's on. So I really don't know how the sites can be hidden from or protected from anyone who truly wants to find them.
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  • Profile picture of the author blogmarketer
    Thanks Matt, Derek,

    I have to tell you Matt, I really want SEOLM to be what it's advertised as - my feeling was you guys would do the whole syndication network idea right, but between my own experience, and what I'm reading, it seems more and more a marketing / profit effort, and less a quality implementation.

    I'm going to hold off on requesting a refund in the hopes it shakes out to be as good as I expected from you guys.

    Kim
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  • I would be cautious. I tried them out for three + weeks on two sites. Both of them took major steps backwards after being established on page 1-2 for more than a year. In my opinion, this service cannot hold a candle to Build My Rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam12
    Whoops I think I signed up for this too early should have come here and read the posts. I will get a refund from Clickbank.

    I had major "Warning" signs when they did not one but three upsells before you could get into finding out what its all about.

    I feel a bit disappointed as I thought Matt & Brad were some of the 'good guys' around. Oh well just shows you - I will be removing them from my email list.
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  • Profile picture of the author bestbuddy1986
    Hey Matt,

    I tried best to follow all your instructions for SLM.

    But it have not helped me in any ways and so i am completely unsatisfied.

    I have requested for refund on Clickbank.

    Order No :- 55X2EJHB

    Please do needful.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author WahbReview
    This is a Review and Rating thread so here is my take after using SEO Link Monster.

    I joined on the day prior to launch.

    I expected the offered bonus to be available but it was not - and nowhere did the members site say when it would be available (that I could see) - but that was no big deal for me..

    On 2/10 I heard from someone on another forum that they had checked indexing rates of the sites their articles had posted on and from the 65 domains he checked, 35 were not indexed.

    I immediately checked mine and found that only 3 of the domains I had posted to were not indexed.

    On 2/15 I noticed that my posts had not happened so I sent a ticket to support asking what was happening and also how to get the bonus links.

    I was reponded to, very quickly I might add, and the answer was that..

    a) there had been a glitch in the system which was fixed and they would make up the missing posts with a double submission for two days. This they did exactly as promised.

    b) the bonus links would be on a different network that was being setup and would be available by March and I would be notified. It is March and have heard nothing.

    I carried on posting and changing articles and watching my rankings carefully.

    By 2/29 I had seen no increase and decided to, once again, go through and, given the changed system that doesnst show the blogs, find my articles via search based on the title - and I also had recorded the domins used for the first couple of days.

    I could only find 3 articles of the 100's posted and the domains that I knew were deindexed.

    I wrote to support asking, basically, if someone can give me a good reason as to what I was seeing so that I could contine being a customer. Some sort of proof that my new articles were adding SEO value to me.

    The answer, from support, on 3/1 reitereated what Matt said on his posting in this thread (on 2/27) that someone had snitched to Google, sites had been deindexed, the changes were to protect the network, etc.

    A reasonable answer, but one that completely failed to show me any sort of proof that my new articles were going to indexed sites and my posts wre being indexed.

    I wrote back saying as much that I did not expect a "stock answer" but some real proof.

    I recieved the reply from support on 3/1 saying that the the support person was "sorry that you think my reply was a stock answer, as I spent quite a bit of time composing it."

    The wording using by support on 3/1 was, in many places, exactly the same as Matt's post on 2/27.

    The answer went on to say that the network has 5000 sites in it and in three weeks I would have posted to 300 of them which is a small subset. The inference of this is that the 300 sites I posted to are the ones that were flagged as spam to Google and deindexed

    Nowhere in the replies does it state that my new articles are going to sites that are indexed and are providing any value to me.

    How in good conscience can I contine with a system that does not show, in any way, that I am getting what I pay for?

    How in good conscience can I continue with a system who's support people are unable or unwilling to answer a direct question with a direct answer (the support person claiming to have spent a lot of time composing an answer using pre-written content kinda pissed me off).

    I once again checked my rankings today and found no upward movement - in fact, just the opposite. Not only that, I have seen a huge 50+ place drop on other sites I have on the same hosting. Is this coincindence, maybe, maybe not.

    I asked for a refund today.

    In conclusion..:

    I really wanted to stay a customer and have no problem paying good money for a good service, I just wanted the SEO Link Monster people to show I was getting good service. They could not.

    I spent a lot of time on this and have ended up wasting that tme and looks like I may have received some sort of penalty that is going to cost me even more time (and money) to set straight.

    I sincerly hope others are having a better time of it using SEO Link Monster.

    Definately would NOT recommend.
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  • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
    @WahbReview,

    I'm sorry that your experience with SEOLM didn't bump your rankings to date. I am at Yanik's Underground Seminar as I write this and I can't tell you how many people have come up to me here telling me how well SEOLM has performed for them and that they want more accounts!

    One thing they had in common is they all have a social element to their SEO campaigns which has become increasingly apparent to be necessary after Panda 3.3. The days have gone by where ranking were as easy as accumulating links unfortunately.

    Link density has also become a underlining factor and we have noticed that ONLY linking to the home page with ONLY targeted keywords increases your link density for that keyword which actually decreases the effectiveness of those links which may result in lower rankings. This however is not a penalty, just a algorithmic adjustment.

    Bottom line is, SEO is changing and even though consensus is that back-linking is still a powerful and necessary tool, there are now other factors in play and the SEOs that employ that are winning with SEOLM.

    Have we had some bumps in the rode? Absolutely!
    Did a portion of our network become de-indexed? Yes!
    Do we always do everything perfect? No! (but we try!)

    We are continually working on the network, on support, doing our best to make our customers happy, so it pains me to read unfavorable reviews from customers like yourself that didn't have a good experience. But they do make me work harder, so thank you.

    As for the bonus network. My promise was that it will be delivered in March. And obviously our support staff misunderstood as you did so I take responsibility for the miscommunication.

    As for the de-indexing. We have taken steps to reduce the possibility of another leak to Google and are proactively working on reducing network footprints that didn't matter pre Panda 3.3 that do matter now.

    But, again, I am sorry that your experience wasn't a positive one this time around and I do appreciate your comments and take them to heart.

    Respectfully,
    Dori Friend
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    • Profile picture of the author WahbReview
      To Dori...

      All that you wrote above regarding SEO is great information, I have no doubt you know exactly what you are talking about, so thanks for that information.

      But, a couple of points.

      One...all I was looking for was some sort of proof that I was getting value. You telling me that some other people are seeing great results is not proof for ME. I am happy for them, but using the "protecting the network" as an excuse to not show me anything is just crazy. It just looks like no one could be bothered to look at my account and show me something that even had the potential to have some posotive effect - or show me I was using the system incorrectly (which I do not think I was, but could be wrong).

      Two...you said "so it pains me to read unfavorable reviews from customers like yourself that didn't have a good experience. But they do make me work harder, so thank you."

      Really? You are thanking me for having a bad time, spending time (which is money) and having no (or negative) results as it had added some value to you? Sorry, Dori, but that just comes over all wrong.

      I feel your response, just like response I recieved from support, are completely designed as evasive tools to skirt the real issues which were..

      a. those seen in the past (caused by a Google snitch which was not your fault and the lowering of network value due to parking, which is an error by the network owners) - which really had zero impact on my decision for a refund and...

      b. the new issue which is that me, looking at rankings, see nothing good and the new setup gives no way to look to see if there is eany future potential for increases.

      I would have taken, as proof, a simple screen shot with one of my recent posts shown in the google results for a search on full title with everything on the screen shot blanked out so that the site the post was on was not seen.

      I would have taken "hey customer, looks like your posts are not indexed right now - give us 7-14 days so that we can see what is happening."

      I would have taken "hey customer, you are doing it wrong you idiot, do it like this."

      As you can see, from the above, I would have been a very simple customer to keep happy - just required a little effort on SEOLM staff. But, that was not forthcoming, instead I get stock answers form support and you thanking me for making you work harder.

      Anyway, again, thanks for responding - even though the cynic in me says the post was not for aimed at me but for general placation - and I wish you success.

      Mark.

      P.S. To close my SEOLM story, my refund was issued within just a few hours, so hats off to support and clickbank for that.
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      • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
        Originally Posted by WahbReview View Post

        Two...you said "so it pains me to read unfavorable reviews from customers like yourself that didn't have a good experience. But they do make me work harder, so thank you."

        Really? You are thanking me for having a bad time, spending time (which is money) and having no (or negative) results as it had added some value to you? Sorry, Dori, but that just comes over all wrong.
        I believe constructive criticism makes anyone work harder! I am sorry you took it as I was thanking you for having a bad time, which was not my intention.

        Originally Posted by WahbReview View Post

        I would have taken, as proof, a simple screen shot with one of my recent posts shown in the google results for a search on full title with everything on the screen shot blanked out so that the site the post was on was not seen.
        I am sorry our staff did not think of doing that and I really am sorry you had a horrible time and feel you wasted your time.

        I have admitted we had some bumps and I really don't know what else to say, I can only go forward.

        If there is something I CAN do for you, them please email me at support and I will be happy to help you out the best I can.

        As of now, I can only give you your money back, which we did, apologize for our mistakes, which I have, and take what you have said and grow from it, which I am.

        Respectfully,
        Dori
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Blandford
    I have yet to see anyone address why you can't find your titles if you do a Google "'s search. I asked support, but the best I got was "indexing may take 1 to 2 weeks" which is kind of the answer I would expect to get, but I don't think that's really what's going on.

    I know some people have mentioned they can find their titles by searching Google. When I first joined SEO Link Monster, I could as well. Now I can't find any....new posts or old posts.

    I've gone through random pages, picked 2 or 3 posts per page and have done searches for the title on Google and can't find any that are listed. I eventually gave up searching any more of them.

    Dori and/or Matt can you address this? Provide an explanation. Send a PM? Something?

    I love the look and feel of the network and loved the results I got the first few days when I was actually seeing my posts indexed in Google. But now I don't know what's going on.

    I keep hearing about an 80% index rate so I don't understand why I can't find any of my posts in Google.

    Is it a problem just with my account? I would really appreciate a response either here or a PM so I can figure out if it's a problem or if this is just what I'm to expect so I can decide if I should continue using SEO Link Monster or not.

    Thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author DoriFriend2
    Derek,

    Yeah it does take some time to get those pages indexed, but I will look into it, please email me at support and tell them to send me the ticket number. (I don't have enough posts her to PM yet)

    thanks,
    Dori
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Blandford
    Hi Dori,

    Thanks for looking into this for me. I've sent a note to support to pass along to you.

    Derek
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  • Profile picture of the author takahashii
    The sooner people realise knocking out articles all over the place on dropped URL's doesn't work the better. Need to get smarter people!!
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  • Profile picture of the author rdynek
    I was not impressed. Less than 5% of my distributed report urls were ever indexed and the blogs they were on were not very clean and domains were not aged at all. All but I believe like 6 or 7 even had PR. The back end of the system was very nice and user friendly but that is as far as I would go with the pros of the network. Maybe it will improve but until then I have to pass.
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    • Profile picture of the author bionictortoise
      1.
      NO BACKLINK URLS LISTED ANYWHERE!

      My issue with SEO Link Monster is that you can't even see what the backlinks ARE!

      It's a backlinking service that no longer provides you with a list of URLs!

      The only way I know what URLs have my articles on are when I get a trackback.

      And I only get a trackback for my blog posts - NOT for home pages or for Weebly, Hub, Squidoo and YouTube pages that I have also been linking to.

      Dori says we need to build backlinks to our backlinks. Sure! But how can we do that if we don't know what those backlinks are?

      Their response was to say they stopped doing the URL list because sites were getting delisted. Well if that's happening, surely they'll get delisted eventually whether URLs are listed or not?

      Support response:
      "We have replaced the distribution reports with a new stats reporting tool in order to help protect ALL users and the network integrity from the possibility of someone signing up to SEO Link Monster and then reporting URLs to Google. We found that one small sub-set of URLs were deindexed due to one specific user reporting some URLs to Google. We are proactively moving forward to protect the network for everyone and to help increase its effectiveness over the long term. We continually monitor the sites, and any sites that are found to be deindexed or that are losing their ranking power, we immediately remove them from the network and replace them with a site from our reserve queue."

      2.
      SITES ALL WITH SAME IP
      And every one of the trackbacks I have got so far are from different sites on the SAME IP!

      SEOLM state that they never have more than 5 sites on one IP, so I sent them proof, and they came back with:
      "I apologize for the inconvenience. One of our (very soon to be former) hosts gave us a big batch of IP addresses that were supposed to be all different c blocks but turned out to be not so and we are now migrating sites to different IPs on a new cloud server."

      But I'm still getting the same IP address in the trackbacks.


      3.
      BLANK ARTICLES
      I am putting links to my sites and supporting link wheel sites, but in the stats 12 showed up to be "n/a" in the anchor text column.

      So I contacted them and they said anchor text wasn't being reported until after Feb 24th.

      Fair enough. Except I submitted all 12 articles this week! (March). And when I go to edit n/a articles, they show up BLANK, yet they claim to have been published.

      As there are now no URLs provided for the backlinks, there is no way of knowing at all whether they have been published or not.

      4.
      UPSELL NOT AS DESCRIBED
      I also got one of the upsells of PLR articles for content, only I did not go for the most expensive option. I went for the 13,000 articles for $97 - except it turned out to be just over 5000 articles! Still a lot, but it isn't 13,000 as stated.

      And I didn't even get a reply to that query.


      I just came here to see if I was the only one with issues, and it seems I am not the only one who is unimpressed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Blandford
    Dori was extremely helpful at looking into my account in regards to my problem of not being able to find any of my submitted articles in Google if i did a quotes title search (e.g. "Article Title").

    She had mentioned I appeared to be part of the group of sites that got delisted by Google.

    She graciously moved me to another group. And that's the good news...

    The bad news is, I'm still not seeing any change and still can't find any of my articles actually listed in Google...

    So now what?
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  • Profile picture of the author mikenin
    I haven't tried it, but I would be interested to see if anyone has.
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  • One word, Xrumer.

    Not 100$ a month, and does the job just as well if not 2x as good by automatically verifying your links/e-mails & doing any site you can think of. Whether it's a forum, blog, guestbook or other such as wiki

    I can pump out 50,000 links in 72 hours using the program and I'm really thankful I bought it because hey, it's made me a lot of money throughout the years. Automation is key if you want to get a lot accomplished while saving your time
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  • Profile picture of the author los s
    I have not tried it but i have heard good things.
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    SeolinkMonster has basically ruined a lot of peoples lives. You still have time to get your refund.

    Do not let newbs like the poster above me lol. Get away with this crap.

    Your reputation is only as good as your last hand shake.

    At least I got my refund and at least I didnt use it on my best sites.

    Seolinkmonster, you owe me a lot of money and time. I hope it was worth the damage to your reputation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin_nzpcs
    Lol I love the comment "hard niches that there is no way to rank without using blognetworks" The Callen brothers have obvoiusly never looked at the niches like finance or insurance where the serps are dominated by banks and finance companies or authority sites like the "money super market".

    I'd love you to show me an example of a site in the top tens serps using blog networks for links...

    I am willing to bet the top ranked sites have

    1, Editorial processed links from decent directories even if you have to pay for the review.

    2, Links from relevant sites in the niche with an editorial not automatically accepted process. (yes even blog commenting still works if they are not automatically accepted and the sites are relevant.

    3, People who interact with and share the site on social media type sites because they are users or fans of their service.

    4, Some sort of sydnication of their content such as pdfs with real information of value not one page articles with a backlink to their site...

    5, Social media profiles that have not just opened up to bookmark one site post one video etc etc. For example have the time limits extended on their videos they submit to youtube. Have several posts built up over time on the web sharing networks (commonly wrongly referred to as web 2.0 by many)

    6, Authors that have a history of writing content online that gets shared and interacted with...

    None of these things I believe are very important factors in ranking are answered by any type of auto accept network or site and if that is where your linking efforts are mainly going too then your on your way to a fall...

    Hey love you to prove me wrong

    But most people who know anything worth while knowing about seo learned a long time ago if your building links with no editorial process your on the road to disaster...

    People save your money put it into getting great content that other webmasters with great content would want to share or let you post to their sites. A few of these type links will do far more for your site than thousands of spun generic reading type crap people use to try and short cut their way to better seo rankings.

    Then again in posting this probably will open up a debate from all the people who will say but hey this network ranked me... for this kw etc etc..

    There are other factors involved in rankings like the interaction that users have with your site. There is also a honey moon period for new sites and or pages so they get a chance to get some traffic so the search engines can evaluate this interaction...
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Can't believe they are still taking customers?
    At least BuildMyRank showed real class, kept their customers
    informed and did the right thing.
    Just goes to show some people are just interested in the money
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    • Profile picture of the author jon poland
      From what I understand SEO Link Monster closed their doors for a while, but they are now back in business. Is anyone still using this service after Google massacred so many sites that were using blog networks like SEO Link Monster?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chronic IM
    Hello!

    It does look promising. Though I haven't heard many people say so. But for me, I think it's useful in helping you to fine tune anchor text diversity and focus, but most importantly to get a lot of links for a domain from various C-class IP domains. It will be work a try.

    Best of Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author rdynek
    It was a complete fail for me but maybe it got better. I was one of the first to signup with the early signup offer
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  • Profile picture of the author arnie19
    How's the link monster doing? any good news of having benefits presently? is it still working?
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  • Profile picture of the author gapinfotech
    i don't try this but now i m try this for my website
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Quit looking for shortcuts. This type of network doesn't work anymore. However I do know of a course you can get for around $97 that teaches you to build your own private network, which CAN work if you do it right. And keep it to yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author amazme
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Quit looking for shortcuts. This type of network doesn't work anymore. However I do know of a course you can get for around $97 that teaches you to build your own private network, which CAN work if you do it right. And keep it to yourself.
      Hi what is this network system all about and is it still working today can you point me into the right direction for it
      Thanks Mr T
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  • Profile picture of the author FaisalZamanInfo
    What happen to SEOLM? R.I.P?? can't log in all day today... any idea? anyone?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Carlin
    I'm curious, when was the last time your logged in? I thought it's been closed for months.
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  • Profile picture of the author star007
    Brad Callen is among the best when it comes to Internet Marketers who not only create good products but are also ethical in their business practices. I have purchased several of his products and belonged to a few of his memberships sites and all live up to their promised potential.
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  • Just watched a video for this SEO L M and almost jumped in. Then did the "see what others are saying search and here I am. Guess I'm glad I waited.
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