The Mass Control 2.0 Bonus Thread

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I didn't post this to the main forum because it's likely to just be deleted there.

I'm not a Frank Kern affiliate, nor am I assisting any Frank Kern affiliates. What I'm trying to do is simply collect all of the Mass Control 2.0 affiliate bribes in one central location to save people some legwork.

So, if you've got one or know of one, please post a link here.

The only one I've found so far is Craig Beckta's coaching bonus at Mass Control 2.0 - Mass Control 2.0 Review

I'm also consolidating them at my blog
Mass Control 2.0 Mass Control 2.0 Bonus

John
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    In case you don't know Matt Trainer, he is on the inside of the inside of the Frank Kern inner circle.

    Here's what Matt is offering as a bonus for buying Mass Control 2.0 through his affiliate link.
    • 12 months full access to ZoomCartPro.com
      (Not open to the public yet. Go to the site and check out the features. Also includes a free Authorize.net merchant account)
    • Matt's CPA course that won't be release to the public, detailing how he made $50k in his first three weeks in CPA.
    • A custom designed landing page by Matt for the offer of your choice (He normally charges a minimum of $2,000 for this)
    For more details, go watch Matt's video at
    Internet Business Blog, Internet Marketing Advice Blog Archive Conversion secrets for 2009 revealed…

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
      Thanks for the mention John...

      Craig Beckta
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    • Profile picture of the author magill
      Thank you so much for the direct to Matt's page, John. I have been undecided about getting Mass Control but since checking out Matt's bonus offer, how can I pass on it? Truly an irresistible offer. Thanks again, Nancy Gomez
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    • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
      Originally Posted by John Rogers View Post

      In case you don't know Matt Trainer, he is on the inside of the inside of the Frank Kern inner circle.

      Here's what Matt is offering as a bonus for buying Mass Control 2.0 through his affiliate link.
      [LIST]
      ...[*]Matt's CPA course that won't be release to the public, detailing how he made $50k in his first three weeks in CPA.
      Well that's not quite the truth ...

      An email received from Matt this morning:

      Due to popular demand my Mass Control bonuses
      are a standalone package! Many people asked for this
      so here it is:
      Matt's Mass Control Bonuses

      Now anyone can get the bonuses separately!
      Fret no more Mass Control 1.0 owners.

      Thanks again to everyone who did buy
      Mass Control 2.0 through my link.

      I really appreciate it and have decided to make the
      CPA course bigger and better because of all the
      positive feedback I got.

      The downside is that it will take a few more days to
      get it all done but it will be worth the wait!

      So, look for all the bonuses to be ready by Tues-Wed
      next week.

      Thanks again everyone!
      Matt
      P.S. Here's the link again to my new standalone bonus
      package: Matt's Mass Control Bonuses
      Everyone who bought Mass Control thru Matt's affiliate link just got bitch-slapped by him (ie. lied to). He promised not to release the cpa course publically, then less than 5 days after MC closes out he puts it on the market.

      He states himself in the video himself:

      "now I'm not releasing this course publicly at all. You'll never see a website, sales letter, nothing."

      Blah blah blah ...

      What the hell you call this Matt?

      Link to Matt's "I'm Not Releasing This Course Publicly at All" CPA Course and other Mass Control Bonuses

      Now whether Matt decided to sell the course after the fact or had planned to all along, the fact remains he lied. No ambiguity, no denial.

      Just another example of how much some "gurus" really respect their clients.

      How can anyone believe what this guy says anymore?
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      • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
        Most guru's $eem to have only one thing in mind.

        I say "most" in case I ever come across one that doesn't.
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        • Profile picture of the author A Bary
          I don't understand, Matt is going to charge us for getting the bonuses he promised for MC 2.0?!!!

          I bought through his link, will I recieve these bonuses or not?:confused:
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          • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
            Originally Posted by goldmind123 View Post

            I don't understand, Matt is going to charge us for getting the bonuses he promised for MC 2.0?!!!

            I bought through his link, will I receive these bonuses or not?:confused:
            What we were marketed by Matt was buy through his link and get the bonuses (of which the CPA course would not be released to the public).

            Then less than five days later after mass control closed, he put the bonuses out as a separate offer, including the CPA course he promised he wouldn't release to the public.

            So, he made a promise to encourage people to buy MC thru his link. Then after MC is closed, he releases the bonuses to the public spiting his MC customers in the process.

            In addition, since he is releasing the course to the public there is a few more days delay.

            I hope this helps.
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            • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
              That is pretty shady. I was turned off by his video and I'm glad I went another direction.
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post

        Well that's not quite the truth ...

        An email received from Matt this morning:



        Everyone who bought Mass Control thru Matt's affiliate link just got bitch-slapped by him (ie. lied to). He promised not to release the cpa course publically, then less than 5 days after MC closes out he puts it on the market.

        He states himself in the video himself:

        "now I'm not releasing this course publicly at all. You'll never see a website, sales letter, nothing."

        Blah blah blah ...

        What the hell you call this Matt?

        Link to Matt's "I'm Not Releasing This Course Publicly at All" CPA Course and other Mass Control Bonuses

        Now whether Matt decided to sell the course after the fact or had planned to all along, the fact remains he lied. No ambiguity, no denial.

        Just another example of how much some "gurus" really respect their clients.

        How can anyone believe what this guy says anymore?
        Contact Mass Control support and tell them you want to make sure (insert affiliate of your choice) gets credit for the sale, because that's who you bought from. They'll take the sale from Matt and give it to whoever you tell them. Then you'll qualify for that person's bonus, and Matt will rightly lose a commission for lying.
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        • Profile picture of the author MattTrainer
          Hello all,
          Being called a liar has a funny affect. I really hate IM forums but somehow feel compelled to comment.

          Frank decided to give Mass Control 2 away free to MC1 owners and many of them still wanted my bonus. They are loyal customers of Frank's and like the stuff I have to offer so what am I to do?

          I decided to make it really cheap for them to buy and get my bonuses. That's it.

          I didn't plan it and I didn't know it would happen until a week after I did
          the video. I got tons of emails from frustrated MC1 owners that wanted my bonuses so what would you do? A smart business man and marketer sells it to them! Does that make me a liar?

          I never intended to sell the CPA course ever. I did intend at some point in the future to sell access to my shopping cart and I have always sold my landing page design services. Those are all the elements of my bonus.

          So, new information came in and I made the decision based on that new information. Saying that me selling this bonus package somehow damages people that bought MC2 through my link is ludicrous to the extreme.

          For one, I polled my entire list AND everyone that follows me on Twitter. I asked repeatedly for everyone to give me feedback on whether I should offer my bonus package as a standalone offer.

          I got nothing back but a resounding YES! So, I responded to what my customer's wanted. They wanted to buy my bonuses and not one single person said, "Don't sell it because I want it exclusive to MC2 buyers only."

          If they had I may not have sold it. We'll never know. The point is that the scarcity thinking that I am hurting someone by selling my bonuses just doesn't make sense. Think abundance! The world is limitless!

          You can make millions right next to 1000 other people making millions doing the EXACT same thing.

          Have fun people! Make money, give a ton away and help people. Your lives will be awesome and you'll never have to worry about logging into a forum ever again.

          Hope this clarifies things for some.

          Matt
          P.S. If any MC2 buyer feels that I've somehow wronged them then by all means contact support and tell them you don't want me to get commission for the sale. You can contact them at frankkernhelpdesk dot com
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          • Profile picture of the author MattTrainer
            goldmind123, Yes you will get your bonuses. No where anywhere does it say that I am charging MC2 buyers for my bonuses.

            I simply made it available to MC1 owners to buy simply because they had no way to get it. They get MC2 for free and thus couldn't buy through my link.

            The holdup on my bonuses has nothing to do with my selling the package, it's the fact that Frank's team is STILL sorting out Infusion's tracking failures on launch day. Without knowing the people that bought through my link I can't give out the bonuses.

            Also, my shopping cart is not quite ready anyway. It will be ready next week.

            So, look for email from me about the bonuses.
            They are gonna be awesome!
            Matt
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            • Profile picture of the author A Bary
              Originally Posted by MattTrainer View Post

              goldmind123, Yes you will get your bonuses. No where anywhere does it say that I am charging MC2 buyers for my bonuses.

              I simply made it available to MC1 owners to buy simply because they had no way to get it. They get MC2 for free and thus couldn't buy through my link.

              The holdup on my bonuses has nothing to do with my selling the package, it's the fact that Frank's team is STILL sorting out Infusion's tracking failures on launch day. Without knowing the people that bought through my link I can't give out the bonuses.

              Also, my shopping cart is not quite ready anyway. It will be ready next week.

              So, look for email from me about the bonuses.
              They are gonna be awesome!
              Matt
              Hello Matt,

              Thanks for the reply, I was just confused because on your shopping cart, you put 2 options, one for MC customers and the other is for non MC customers, but you didn't specify MC1 or MC2 ,now you made it clear, thanks again[by the way and for curiosity, how you'll confirm the ownership of MC for the buyers, I see that I can go and order through the lower price tag link without being asked for such a confirmation, just a question I ask to learn something ]

              And by the way, as one who is involved in this, I don't mind you selling the course, I followed the conversation on your blog and saw how many MC1 customers asked for getting CPA course for money, and I wondered why you don't do so?

              And yes, it has a value now, even if it's overpriced (and I don't think so), you still have to pay that price to get access to it, so this price is its real market value, so the bonus is actually now worth $1188 for the shopping cart, plus $497, making it $1685 worth! , without counting the free landing page that can be used as a model as many times as you wish! and beleive me, having such a successful winner model to replicate for different niches worth a fortune of money and hours of effort!

              Thanks Matt again, waiting for details when this amazing bonus will arive.
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          • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
            Originally Posted by MattTrainer View Post

            Hello all,
            Frank decided to give Mass Control 2 away free to MC1 owners and many of them still wanted my bonus. They are loyal customers of Frank's and like the stuff I have to offer so what am I to do?
            Stick to your word and retain your credibility or break your word within a few days of giving it and lose a degree of credibility with some people.

            I decided to make it really cheap for them to buy and get my bonuses. That's it.
            And in the process devalued your bonus's exclusivity, and the veracity of your offer verbiage. You can't unfortunatley have it both ways.

            I didn't plan it and I didn't know it would happen until a week after I did
            the video. I got tons of emails from frustrated MC1 owners that wanted my bonuses so what would you do? A smart business man and marketer sells it to them! Does that make me a liar?
            Well you specifically said, you won't release it and it's purely for MC2 owners, then you go ahead and release it . It doesn't make you a liar as a liar infers it was premeditated, which I don't believe it was, the opportunity arose and you grasped it, however it makes you somebody who's word carries less weight in future. Of course it does, you said one thing and did another, and there's no reason to suggest you wouldnt' do the same again if the opportunity presented itself.

            So, new information came in and I made the decision based on that new information. Saying that me selling this bonus package somehow damages people that bought MC2 through my link is ludicrous to the extreme.
            It damages those who could have got your bonus for a few bucks and who could have gotten themselves a bonus which had vastly more value via another affiliate. I guess that was the point made.

            For one, I polled my entire list AND everyone that follows me on Twitter. I asked repeatedly for everyone to give me feedback on whether I should offer my bonus package as a standalone offer.

            I got nothing back but a resounding YES! So, I responded to what my customer's wanted. They wanted to buy my bonuses and not one single person said, "Don't sell it because I want it exclusive to MC2 buyers only."
            What a bizare argument, of course they said YES they wanted to get hold of the material on the cheap.

            Hope this clarifies things for some.
            It clarries exactly what happened, but this was already known.

            Personally I would have tried an apology to all those people who purchased via your link thinking they were getting something that nobody else would get hold off Matt, that's what you told them, you may well have found an apology went a long way here rather than covering your back.

            My 2 cents...
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post



              Well you specifically said, you won't release it and it's purely for MC2 owners, then you go ahead and release it . It doesn't make you a liar as a liar infers it was premeditated, which I don't believe it was, the opportunity arose and you grasped it, however it makes you somebody who's word carries less weight in future. Of course it does, you said one thing and did another, and there's no reason to suggest you wouldnt' do the same again if the opportunity presented itself.



              It damages those who could have got your bonus for a few bucks and who could have gotten themselves a bonus which had vastly more value via another affiliate. I guess that was the point made.



              What a bizare argument, of course they said YES they wanted to get hold of the material on the cheap.



              It clarries exactly what happened, but this was already known.

              Personally I would have tried an apology to all those people who purchased via your link thinking they were getting something that nobody else would get hold off Matt, that's what you told them, you may well have found an apology went a long way here rather than covering your back.

              My 2 cents...

              This has been one the biggest BS posts I have read to date. I love how so many people jump up on their soap boxes. Ok if you want to get Trainer's bonus than cough up the money and then contact Kern's support to get a different bonus. You can pay the 1k or whatever Matt is charging.

              The exclusivity made it more valuable huh? BULLSHIT...

              The information in the bonus is what sold it not the exclusivity. Don't accept the bonus, call the support and change the affiliate link to get a different bonus.

              I don't consider the prices Matt is charging as cheap. Do you?

              Personally I am tired of all the same shit on this forum from people that just complain. Instead of looking at the info that Matt is giving, people just bitch and moan about other things. I can see why most people don't get anywhere in this business or in life.


              My 2 cents....
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              • Profile picture of the author A Bary
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                This has been one the biggest BS posts I have read to date. I love how so many people jump up on their soap boxes. Ok if you want to get Trainer's bonus than cough up the money and then contact Kern's support to get a different bonus. You can pay the 1k or whatever Matt is charging.

                The exclusivity made it more valuable huh? BULLSHIT...

                The information in the bonus is what sold it not the exclusivity. Don't accept the bonus, call the support and change the affiliate link to get a different bonus.

                I don't consider the prices Matt is charging as cheap. Do you?

                Personally I am tired of all the same shit on this forum from people that just complain. Instead of looking at the info that Matt is giving, people just bitch and moan about other things. I can see why most people don't get anywhere in this business or in life.


                My 2 cents....

                And I don't know why you're acting like the big brother or the one who knows it all, people may have different points of view, I don't know why you're attacking everyone here, just submit your opinion and others are mature enough to determine what's right and what's wrong,

                If your 2 cents are offensive for others, plz keep them for yourself
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                • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                  Originally Posted by goldmind123 View Post

                  And I don't know why you're acting like the big brother or the one who knows it all, people may have different points of view, I don't know why you're attacking everyone here, just submit your opinion and others are mature enough to determine what's right and what's wrong,

                  If your 2 cents are offensive for others, plz keep them for yourself
                  I will say what I want when I want. If you don't like it then go away. It is pretty simple. If people on here have the right to complain about everything I have the right to say what I want.

                  No big brother here just someone who does more than complain. If what I have said hurts than maybe you should change yourself.

                  Most of the people here that complain are not what I would want as customers anyway. They are normally too much trouble.
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                  • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    I will say what I want when I want. If you don't like it then go away. It is pretty simple. If people on here have the right to complain about everything I have the right to say what I want.

                    No big brother here just someone who does more than complain. If what I have said hurts than maybe you should change yourself.

                    Most of the people here that complain are not what I would want as customers anyway. They are normally too much trouble.
                    Thomas, wow man, from the outside it seems you are complaining about the exact type of person you are.

                    My whole point is Matt promised one thing then did an about face for no reason other than more $.

                    He posted a nice reply however it failed to include an admission of responsibility for the violation of his word.

                    If Matt thinks it's OK to trade integrity for money, then of course no responsibility will be assumed.

                    To say MC 1.0 owners should have access to the bonuses is silly. Since I bought 2.0 should I not get access to the bonuses offered when 1.0 was sold?

                    Instead of polling his whole list, he should have polled the MC 2.0 buyers and asked if they minded him selling the bonuses, as it was this subset group the promise not to release the course would be broken.

                    Anyway, it is what it is. Again, stating people should switch affiliate IDs is another lie and doesn't right anything.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                      Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post

                      Thomas, wow man, from the outside it seems you are complaining about the exact type of person you are.

                      My whole point is Matt promised one thing then did an about face for no reason other than more $.

                      He posted a nice reply however it failed to include an admission of responsibility for the violation of his word.

                      If Matt thinks it's OK to trade integrity for money, then of course no responsibility will be assumed.

                      To say MC 1.0 owners should have access to the bonuses is silly. Since I bought 2.0 should I not get access to the bonuses offered when 1.0 was sold?

                      Instead of polling his whole list, he should have polled the MC 2.0 buyers and asked if they minded him selling the bonuses, as it was this subset group the promise not to release the course would be broken.

                      Anyway, it is what it is. Again, stating people should switch affiliate IDs is another lie and doesn't right anything.
                      Wow man, I am not the one bitching about information being sold. You got the info which is what you wanted. Instead of being happy, learning from Matt and putting it into action, you complain that others are getting it now. It seems to me that you are just bitching about nothing really.

                      He doesn't have to poll his list. It is his product and he can choose what he wants to do.

                      The fact of the matter is business is a lot better than having to deal with people who complain about mundane things. Again, I am assuming you purchased through Matt's link to get his info. Why would you otherwise. Now you complain that others who will pay a lot of money to get access to it.

                      That is limiting frame of mind which you see on here quite frequently. Why do you think a lot of the people that we could learn a lot from don't come here. It is because of the whiners and complainers which you seem to be a part of.

                      I am literally shocked by these types of posts. The information Matt is providing hasn't changed since you purchased. He just changed his mind since his customers who purchased from him before wanted his information.

                      It doesn't make the information any less effective.

                      Honestly, I really shouldn't even post in these threads because I don't need the aggravation either. I just never understood these types of posts but than again most of the people if not all that are complaining are not getting anywhere.

                      Now please go back to the bitching. I am sorry for interfering with your complaints.


                      Have a nice day.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
                        I agree with those calling Matt out. Sometimes, providing limited access to good strategies makes them worth much more. In this case, the CPA bs might be great and now that he's selling it to others it could dillute the market in the short term.

                        I think the main issue here is that we saw all the snake-oil salesmen come out when MC 2.0 was released. Rather than Matt sticking to his word, he chose $ and alienated present and future customers. At least Kern has the juice to stop selling MC when it is sold out.

                        I'm just glad I didn't buy from Matt and I'm sorry for those that did.
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                      • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        Wow man, I am not the one bitching about information being sold. You got the info which is what you wanted. Instead of being happy, learning from Matt and putting it into action, you complain that others are getting it now. It seems to me that you are just bitching about nothing really.

                        He doesn't have to poll his list. It is his product and he can choose what he wants to do.

                        The fact of the matter is business is a lot better than having to deal with people who complain about mundane things. Again, I am assuming you purchased through Matt's link to get his info. Why would you otherwise. Now you complain that others who will pay a lot of money to get access to it.

                        That is limiting frame of mind which you see on here quite frequently. Why do you think a lot of the people that we could learn a lot from don't come here. It is because of the whiners and complainers which you seem to be a part of.

                        I am literally shocked by these types of posts. The information Matt is providing hasn't changed since you purchased. He just changed his mind since his customers who purchased from him before wanted his information.

                        It doesn't make the information any less effective.

                        Honestly, I really shouldn't even post in these threads because I don't need the aggravation either. I just never understood these types of posts but than again most of the people if not all that are complaining are not getting anywhere.

                        Now please go back to the bitching. I am sorry for interfering with your complaints.


                        Have a nice day.
                        I have one question Thomas ... did you buy MC 2.0 thru Matt's aff. link?

                        If not, they why are you participating in this "bitch" - fest with all us? Hmmm?

                        Kettle Pot Black
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                      • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        The information Matt is providing hasn't changed since you purchased. He just changed his mind since his customers who purchased from him before wanted his information.

                        It doesn't make the information any less effective.

                        Honestly, I really shouldn't even post in these threads because I don't need the aggravation either. I just never understood these types of posts but than again most of the people if not all that are complaining are not getting anywhere.

                        Now please go back to the bitching. I am sorry for interfering with your complaints.


                        Have a nice day.
                        Missed the important point completely. The point (or as you define "complaint") is this:

                        Matt made a statement he would not release the course then he did, without admittance of a mistake.

                        I don't like being lied to. That is the point. If someone tells an untruth about something small, then what other important points may they not be telling the truth about
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                        • Profile picture of the author A Bary
                          Anyone heard from Matt Trainer?

                          He posted a very basic video as the first video of the CPA course 3 days ago, announcing that he will update the course every day, but nothing is happening, and he didn't contact us for the shopping cart access yet, ?
                          What's going on?
                          I'm starting to feel bad about this!!
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                          • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
                            Originally Posted by goldmind123 View Post

                            Anyone heard from Matt Trainer?

                            He posted a very basic video as the first video of the CPA course 3 days ago, announcing that he will update the course every day, but nothing is happening, and he didn't contact us for the shopping cart access yet, ?
                            What's going on?
                            I'm starting to feel bad about this!!
                            He actually said "practically" every day. Of course, after receiving the email announcing the sale of the "I'll never sell it" CPA course, I take anything said by Matt with a kilo of salt.

                            He also tried to buy back the shopping cart bonus for $100 LOL.

                            My admin told me he posted a comment on his blog politely requesting if the $50k was gross or net and possibly provide some screen caps of proof. Of course, the comment was not published.

                            It's not like we've done anything for him like putting $1k in commissions in his pocket.

                            I don't know why people stand for this type of POOR treatment from some of these gurus. Lately, it's been outrageous. Arbitrage Conspiracy (marketing claims, refund switch, etc), PPC Classroom 2.0 (forum access well not really), Matt's failure to deliver any of the bonuses (he did say Feb 23-24th in his email), etc.

                            Matt, you need to step up and deliver the bonuses.
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                            • Profile picture of the author PeteNY
                              I just set up a private forum on Ning just for Mass Control users.

                              It's private and invite only, so anything discussed won't be seen by the general public and won't appear in search engines. Our discussions will be password protected.

                              I got Mass Control 2.0 on Tuesday, and I look forward to sharing knowledge and tracking each other's progress!

                              Email me if you're interested in participating. Please include your Warrior Forum nick in your email so I know who you are.

                              MassControlPete@Yahoo.com

                              Hope to see you there!
                              Pete
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                              • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
                                I think part of the reason bonuses are not offered 100% yet is because we are still in the refund period.
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                  • Profile picture of the author A Bary
                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    I will say what I want when I want. If you don't like it then go away. It is pretty simple. If people on here have the right to complain about everything I have the right to say what I want.

                    No big brother here just someone who does more than complain. If what I have said hurts than maybe you should change yourself.

                    Most of the people here that complain are not what I would want as customers anyway. They are normally too much trouble.

                    No one here is looking for being a customer for you, and I don't know where're the admins from your language and style in conversation, may be big post numbers allow some people to be arrogant and dishonour others,

                    The best thing to do with someone like you is to ignore..no more...
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                    • Profile picture of the author A Bary
                      By the way, I didn't complain about what Matt did, and I posted my opinion in an early post and thanked Matt for showing up and clear the confusion, and told Matt that I am as someone involved in this (I doubt you Thomas are) don't mind if he is selling the course for money, I just care about receiving what I was promised, that's all, what pissed me really off is your way in discussion, and accuse others of being trouble makers and amateurs for posting their opinions here.
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              • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                This has been one the biggest BS posts I have read to date.
                You mean you don't agree with it. I'm not in the habit of posting BS and I have zero axe to grind. I am purely making a simple observation on a specific issue, which is quite simply that Matt promised X and within a few days went back on it, that is undeniable FACT, not BS.

                I love how so many people jump up on their soap boxes.
                Said without a hint of irony....Pot kettle black....

                Ok if you want to get Trainer's bonus than cough up the money and then contact Kern's support to get a different bonus. You can pay the 1k or whatever Matt is charging.

                The exclusivity made it more valuable huh? BULLSHIT...

                The information in the bonus is what sold it not the exclusivity. Don't accept the bonus, call the support and change the affiliate link to get a different bonus.
                You seem to be missing the point that people are taking issue with , it's not the value of the item. Infact I could care less whether it's worth $100 or $1000. Although certainly exclusivity of anything does increase value , certainly in info products, although this is not the issue here. Matt was called a liar, I don't specifically agree with that but at the same time he has damaged his credibility, I would not be so inclined to believe something he said in the future.

                Personally I am tired of all the same shit on this forum from people
                Couldn't have said it better myself. YOu might like to take a look at your sprawling phelgm combination of posts, if anybody is having a mini rant, getting on a soapbox and throwing their toys out of the pram whilist having a hissy when they don't get agreed with... it's you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post

        Well that's not quite the truth ...

        An email received from Matt this morning:



        Everyone who bought Mass Control thru Matt's affiliate link just got bitch-slapped by him (ie. lied to). He promised not to release the cpa course publically, then less than 5 days after MC closes out he puts it on the market.

        He states himself in the video himself:

        "now I'm not releasing this course publicly at all. You'll never see a website, sales letter, nothing."

        Blah blah blah ...

        What the hell you call this Matt?

        Link to Matt's "I'm Not Releasing This Course Publicly at All" CPA Course and other Mass Control Bonuses

        Now whether Matt decided to sell the course after the fact or had planned to all along, the fact remains he lied. No ambiguity, no denial.

        Just another example of how much some "gurus" really respect their clients.

        How can anyone believe what this guy says anymore?

        It amazes me what people will and do complain about. You got an incredible bonus and no doubt the information and services will be fantastic. Instead of being happy you bitch because he changed his mind and followed what his customers asked from him by putting it up for sale. Congrats, now you know how much your bonus is worth.

        Unbelievable. I would just send back the mass control course as well until you change the way you think.
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        • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
          Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

          It amazes me what people will and do complain about. You got an incredible bonus and no doubt the information and services will be fantastic. Instead of being happy you bitch because he changed his mind and followed what his customers asked from him by putting it up for sale. Congrats, now you know how much your bonus is worth.

          Unbelievable. I would just send back the mass control course as well until you change the way you think.
          Thomas, fine, if pointing out I don't like being lied to then fine, I'm bitching. Doesn't change the fact he lied.

          Now I know what the bonuses are worth? Just because he is charging a said price for them doesn't make them worth that.

          Why would I send back mass control until I change my thinking? The issue is with Matt and his selling ethics, not Frank and the mass control product.

          The fact you think it's perfectly fine and OK with him changing his mind and say I'm "bitching" by calling him out on it says volumes about your own ethics.

          Please clearly label any products you have for sale so I'll make sure you don't get any of my business.

          Matt, you could have easily released all the bonuses except the CPA course, keeping your word and integrity to all your customers.

          BTW, the one-click upsell, downsell, variable billing cycles, etc. advertised in your shopping cart have been available in Ultracart for years. Sorry, you can't claim exclusivity to those features.

          As far as telling support I bought through another affiliate link? One lie doesn't justify another. I won't do that.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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            Originally Posted by nobodyspecial View Post

            Thomas, fine, if pointing out I don't like being lied to then fine, I'm bitching. Doesn't change the fact he lied.

            Now I know what the bonuses are worth? Just because he is charging a said price for them doesn't make them worth that.

            Why would I send back mass control until I change my thinking? The issue is with Matt and his selling ethics, not Frank and the mass control product.

            The fact you think it's perfectly fine and OK with him changing his mind and say I'm "bitching" by calling him out on it says volumes about your own ethics.

            Please clearly label any products you have for sale so I'll make sure you don't get any of my business.

            Matt, you could have easily released all the bonuses except the CPA course, keeping your word and integrity to all your customers.

            BTW, the one-click upsell, downsell, variable billing cycles, etc. advertised in your shopping cart have been available in Ultracart for years. Sorry, you can't claim exclusivity to those features.

            As far as telling support I bought through another affiliate link? One lie doesn't justify another. I won't do that.

            Congratulations to you for never changing your mind. Meaning you said one thing but then changed your mind when you got additional information.

            Glass houses my friend. I am sure you are a far better person than the rest of us. Good for you.
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            • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
              Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

              Congratulations to you for never changing your mind. Meaning you said one thing but then changed your mind when you got additional information.

              Glass houses my friend. I am sure you are a far better person than the rest of us. Good for you.
              Looking beyond your childish, petty name calling and sarcastic reply, I'll attempt to address your ludicrous congratulatory praise for never changing my mind.

              Of course there are circumstances where I've changed my mind when additional information is presented.

              If changing my mind causes me to go against my previous given word, then there better be serious implications for not changing it (somebody getting hurt, mortal wounds, etc.).

              What are the implications if Matt didn't release the bonuses? Lost potential for a few $$'s.

              There were easy solutions ... he would have not released the bonuses publicly or released all but the CPA course.

              Instead, he chose dollar signs. So be it, what's done is done.

              Peace all.
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    Thx, but my affiliate link is linked up to Lucius Kern (freemarketinggraphics dot com), is that Frank's Brother?
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    • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      Thx, but my affiliate link is linked up to Lucius Kern (freemarketinggraphics dot com), is that Frank's Brother?
      Do you have a link to the page with the bonus offer?

      John
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    I just checked Twitter and the Mass Control Bonus wars are about to get real serious.

    My favorite one so far is Harlan Kilstein's. Matt Trainer's is a close second for me.

    Ed Dale, Jason Moffatt and others have said they will be announcing theirs soon.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
    I personally believe I have them all topped. But hey, I'm biased. You'll notice "ALL FOUR" of the people in Frank's "Case Studies" video have worked with me in the past in some fashion.

    My advice, make a crapload of money and go out and buy any of these bonuses with the money I'll help you make!

    Check the sig.

    Matt Trainers bonus is sick too!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Deiboldt
    Aww hell, who wants to learn from some hippie looking, smoothie drinking surfer dude

    EAST COAST what!
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
      I don't know, but coaching from JMo seems like a win-win to me. I'll have enough products with MC 2.0 on my desk, so who needs more stuff to distract? I want results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
      Originally Posted by Jay Deiboldt View Post

      Aww hell, who wants to learn from some hippie looking, smoothie drinking surfer dude

      EAST COAST what!


      WEST SIIIIIIDE!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    I just purchased MC 2.0 via Matt Trainer's link and accessed via Frank Kern's early bird email he sent out tonight!

    Woot Woot!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
    I'd have to lean towards Trainer's bonus, although I like Moffatt's style and that certainly could hold some weight.

    tick tock tick tock
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason James
    My bonus for Mass Control 1.0 sold out in less than 1 hour (25 spots) and this time I feel I have an even stronger offer. Anyway, we shall see what happens...

    You can check it out if you want here:
    Frank Kern Mass Control 2.0 - Jason James Amazing Bonus Offer!

    I personally can't wait to go through all of Frank's new material... it looks amazing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
      Just picked it up via JMo's bonus. I love all the bonuses here and I had a really hard time making up my mind, but really I've got enough info products. With coaching and some hard work, I can buy any product I need.

      Can't wait to dig in.
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      • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
        Cool,

        I have to admit, I'm pretty excited about it too.

        Craig
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  • Profile picture of the author Fender85
    Yeah, I bought via JMO's link. Figure he's got a point - make money with him, and then BUY the other bonuses.

    To be honest, I was on the fence til he mentioned having a few beers in SD for the seminar and I was like, "Hell yeah!" Of course that was after 4 margaritas, a Firefly, Stoli & Sprite, and some Delirium Nocturnum, but no regrets - should be fun!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Dulisse
    I have a Massive Bonus that includes Lifetime Access to my affiliate marketing coaching with Guru Annihilation Method, as well as Amazon Gift Certificate at

    Mass Control 2.0 by Frank Kern Ultimate Bonus

    Or

    Frank Kern Mass Control 2.0 Bonus
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  • Profile picture of the author Adeel_Chowdhry
    $600, Laptop or Holiday! - Your Choice!

    = with $100 INSTANT Paypal cash sent to you out of my pocket (every one else is too chicken to do that!)

    => Mass Control 2.0 Bonus | Adeel Chowdhry | Cash Back or Laptop!


    Cheers,
    Adeel
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  • Profile picture of the author TRosa
    Thanks!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    I'm adding value that I expect will leverage massive returns:

    1) Traffic Secrets Monthly for a year
    2) Private Coaching Forum Access at SuperFastResults
    3) Every Product I Launch this year
    4) One-on-one mentoring with me to RAMP up your profits

    I made a video here:
    Mass Control 2 Bonus
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    • Profile picture of the author gravtex
      In the spirit of a Frank Kern type bonus, it seemed to me it should involve beer. So I'll buy ya a beer at the workshop in San Diego in April if you're attending.

      And, if that hasn't put you over the top yet, I'll also help you create your product (or make it better). :-)

      I made an 8 minute video to explain my bonus: Mass Control 2.0 Bonus

      Gary
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    • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
      Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

      I'm adding value that I expect will leverage massive returns:

      1) Traffic Secrets Monthly for a year
      2) Private Coaching Forum Access at SuperFastResults
      3) Every Product I Launch this year
      4) One-on-one mentoring with me to RAMP up your profits

      I made a video here:
      Mass Control 2 Bonus
      Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

      Forget about "expensive" bonus prizes or cash back -- that's short term thinking that will cost you in the long run.

      The thing missing from Mass Control is traffic.

      You need traffic to build your list.

      You need traffic to see your offers.

      I'm a member of SuperFastResults and have seen a few of the products scheduled for release this year... I guarantee you no one is talking about the stuff Schramko knows.

      He is a master at traffic.

      Even without the one-on-one mentoring this would be killer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mario Brown
    Great bonuses guys.
    Just waiting what Ed Dale is coming out with tonight, his extra day with Frank and Mike Filsaime sounds pretty sweet as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
    This Bonus war is getting crazy.

    Here is my bonus...

    1) 5 hours of live on the phone personal coaching...

    2) 30 days of personal e-mail access to me...

    3) Access to my personal mastermind calls...

    And are you ready for this...

    I will also give you an 8GB Apple Ipod Touch!

    Just click on my signature link...

    Craig Beckta
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  • Profile picture of the author Mario Brown
    I found another sick bonus from Stompernet.

    http://www.stomperblog.com/featured/...apes%E2%80%A6/
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    ‎"Success is waking up in the morning, whoever you are, however old or young, and bounding out of bed because there's something out there that you love to do, that you believe in, that you're good at -- something that's bigger than you are, and you can't hardly wait to get at it again today." Whit Hobbs

    Visit My Website: http://www.mariobrown.net/

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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
    OMG My head is spinning with all these sick bonuses. Everyone on the outside is like this huge herd of sheep and all the bonuses are the calling This is crazy and a PERFECT example of Frank's super savvy on display.

    Remember this pre-launch, cuz mc2 is certain to be the biggest launch in 09'
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    It creates massive value for the consumer too - Great concept.
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    • Profile picture of the author RB
      I think the song Frank plays was written by me, back in 1924. Guess that makes it public domain.
      Peace
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    • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
      Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

      It creates massive value for the consumer too - Great concept.

      Exactly, no one is saying this isn't well worth the investment of $2000. I think it's worth more personally
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary McCaffrey
    It begins and ends with Ewen Chia's offer for me:

    Buy Mass Control 2.0 Through My Link And Get This Life-Changing Bonus

    I believe that truly could be absolutely life changing.
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    • Profile picture of the author mream
      Question:

      Many of these bonuses are for the first "x" buyers. It seems to me that if you want that bonus, but happen to land at "x"+1, you're screwed.

      Anyone see that differently?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Dulisse
    I just raised my bonus to $601 Rebate PLUS Lifetime Access to my Guru Annihilation Method membership. What the heck am I doing?

    $601 Rebate Check Out
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  • Profile picture of the author Adeel_Chowdhry
    Update: $600, Laptop or Holiday! - Your Choice!

    = with $100 INSTANT Paypal cash sent to you out of my pocket (every one else is too chicken to do that!)

    Mass Control 2.0 Bonus | Adeel Chowdhry | Cash Back or Laptop!

    Cheers,
    Adeel
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  • Profile picture of the author Mario Brown
    Hey Gary you are right Ewen's offer is damn SICK, sounds almost like guaranteed money.

    The only bonus that comes near to this is Ed Dales ill Bonus, check it out:
    The Underachiever Life | Mass Control 2.0

    Funny Bonuswar and nice for the market of buyers.
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    Visit My Website: http://www.mariobrown.net/

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    • Profile picture of the author Donnie
      A couple of these bonuses are SO SICK - I can't decide.
      I'm getting my wife to buy MC 2.0 as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
        I'm giving away a toaster, a refrigerator, a kitchen sink, a custom pool table, a 2010 Lamborghini Murcielago, a Breitling Navitimer, a private jet, season tickets to to your favorite sports team, a box of Cuban cigars, and anything else you ask for...

        If you buy from my link...

        ==>>www dot mylink dot com<<==
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        • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
          Originally Posted by marcanthony View Post

          I'm giving away a toaster, a refrigerator, a kitchen sink, a custom pool table, a 2010 Lamborghini Murcielago, a Breitling Navitimer, a private jet, season tickets to to your favorite sports team, a box of Cuban cigars, and anything else you ask for...

          If you buy from my link...

          ==>>www dot mylink dot com<<==
          Why don't you give away your article marketing services! :p
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          • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
            Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

            Why don't you give away your article marketing services! :p
            That was a good one James...

            Taking in consideration the large sums of marketers that use article marketing faithfully--I should start up a service.

            On a side note...

            If were interested in Mass Control--I would most definitely buy from your link. What you are offering is awesome.
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        • Profile picture of the author Al Mangones
          Just out of curiousity, is anyone here partnering up to purchase the product together?
          Is there a way to 'reserve' a spot with someone here. I get $ on Friday and I'd hate to miss out...
          If it sells out, I also have the option of buying a used MC v1.0. If I can't get it, I may be interested in buying that. If you have it for sale, just let me know.

          Good luck.
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          • Profile picture of the author elos
            Originally Posted by Al Mangones View Post

            Just out of curiousity, is anyone here partnering up to purchase the product together?
            Is there a way to 'reserve' a spot with someone here. I get $ on Friday and I'd hate to miss out...
            If it sells out, I also have the option of buying a used MC v1.0. If I can't get it, I may be interested in buying that. If you have it for sale, just let me know.

            Good luck.
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            • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
              I'm impressed with some of these bonuses myself.

              Craig
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        • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
          Ok..

          Here are my bonuses.
          Brian McElroy's
          + Overnight Product Creation ($197)
          + Overnight Membership Creation ($97)
          + Residual Income Formula...($297)
          Our Joint Product
          + Access to JV Product Launch Bootcamp ($77)
          being released later this week

          plus a strategy session with
          Brian McElroy ($497)
          Sean McAlister ($497)

          Thats a whole bunch of value right there

          JVProductlaunch Mass Control Bonus Giveway



          Highest Regards,
          Sean
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        • Profile picture of the author briankoz
          My buddy Dr. Mike is giving away some pretty cool bonuses if you want to see how to really apply the stuff taught in MC 2 to internet marketing as well as tons of other niches outside of that. I thought I'd take a minute to copy part of his e-mail here on the bonuses:

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          Dr. Mike's Mass Control Bonuses
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          1). YOUR OWN PRIVATE MASTERMIND WORKSHOP
          WITH ME FOCUSED ON LIST BUILDING/
          PRODUCT CREATION.
          (tentatively scheduled
          just prior to Frank Kern's event
          in San Diego)

          At the workshop- you'll also
          get to see a "behind the scenes"
          at our office - how we run our team,
          how we've moved from IM to more
          corporate, and went from a home office
          to a 7 figure business.

          I'm like
          an open book - unveiling my sites,
          techniques, and latest IM and
          lead generation strategies.
          (I just love to teach -- it comes
          with being a doctor)

          2). COMPLETE RESALE RIGHTS
          TO THE PRIVATE WORKSHOP YOU'LL
          BE ATTENDING. Yes that's
          right - not only do you get to participate,
          you'll get to own the rights to
          sell the product as your own. We'll
          do everything else, get the copy written,
          set up your own CUSTOM landing page, do the fulfillment.

          So I've just set up your own product
          that you can keep the money for yourself!

          3). MY OWN MASS CONTROL TEMPLATES.
          I've used my own altered version
          of Mass Control in markets outside
          the internet marketing crowd. You'll
          get to use what I've learned.

          (And finally...An Optional Bonus but
          my personal favorite...)

          4). MY REVENGE PLOT AGAINST
          FRANK KERN (OPTIONAL)
          To get back at Frank, I'm planning
          to "get my revenge" on Frank
          at Mass Control event. (This has
          been 5 years in the making, trust me)
          I'll let you in on
          the plan and you can participate if you'd
          like (Don't worry it's all done in fun).
          He won't know it's coming. Hehehe.

          I've thought long and hard on these bonuses
          to complete the great course you'll be getting.
          I think you'll make the most out of it
          than anyone else buying Mass Control today.

          Here's the link again:

          Untitled Document

          Dr. Mike

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          Take care,

          Brian
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        • Profile picture of the author marcanthony
          Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

          Let's keep it serious! I have a ghost in a jar and a potatoe chip that looks like Elvis!
          You clearly have a better bonus than me...

          You win!

          About that ghost in a jar... name your price--I will pay you what ever you want.
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        • Profile picture of the author moonswamp
          I would like to know how to join the affiliate too~~~~
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        • Profile picture of the author IMChick
          Originally Posted by marcanthony View Post

          You clearly have a better bonus than me...

          You win!

          About that ghost in a jar... name your price--I will pay you what ever you want.
          Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

          Let's keep it serious! I have a ghost in a jar and a potatoe chip that looks like Elvis!
          Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

          Let's keep it serious! I have a ghost in a jar and a potatoe chip that looks like Elvis!


          Originally Posted by marcanthony View Post

          You clearly have a better bonus than me...

          You win!

          About that ghost in a jar... name your price--I will pay you what ever you want.
          You know, there's always a 'catch' to these bonus things. The ghost is free, and it comes with it's own jar. The Shaman that you're going to need after opening the jar and freeing the ghost, however, is very expensive. And not part of the bonus.

          So, honestbizpro, can we JV on this? You have the ghost and I have the shaman with the banishing spells...


          And that potato chip was delicious!
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      • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
        Hey Guys,

        I don't think rebates are allowed.

        Could be wrong.
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        • Profile picture of the author miniwangja
          Originally Posted by Craig Beckta View Post

          Hey Guys,

          I don't think rebates are allowed.

          Could be wrong.
          what else can they offer...? :p
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          • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
            You can offer a bonus but not cash back.
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            • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
              Originally Posted by Craig Beckta View Post

              You can offer a bonus but not cash back.
              So Frank doesn't allow incentivised, he shoulda slapped MC2 on Neverblue ...

              James's deal is looking pretty decent, what you don't need when your going to invest a lot of time and energy into something is even more material to distract you, or a few squid in your paypal account or a free toaster, a coach however is worth his weight in gold.

              Think the guys at CDM are offering something solid, it ended up in the delete folder somewhere but seemed pretty interesting.
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        • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
          Originally Posted by Craig Beckta View Post

          Hey Guys,

          I don't think rebates are allowed.

          Could be wrong.
          Either way the buyer who is attracted to the quick hit of cash back may not be the perfect buyer for 'make multiples with mentoring" packages like ours and Jmo.

          I don't understand why anyone would want to build a list of discounters.

          The whole benefit to being an affiliate with bonuses is to build a list of qualified buyers who you can partner with.

          People who work with you and I are going to be very good partners down the track in a win win situation.

          My last mentoring student has ended up in a 50:50 deal with me on a big project.

          (Discount deals are stupid IMHO). The market will decide...
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason James
        Originally Posted by Donnie View Post

        A couple of these bonuses are SO SICK - I can't decide.
        I'm getting my wife to buy MC 2.0 as well.
        I soooo agree. I really can't remember any bonus hysteria more rampant than this. Some of you guys have totally pulled out all the spots. Kudos to you guys.

        Doing some basic math, looks like Frank and affiliates are each going to get a piece of a 5 million dollor pie. Not to shabby for a days work.
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        • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
          Stompernet guys are putting together a pretty strong package as well.

          My advice to those deciding on MC2 bonus material is to decide what kind of a buyer you are and what level your at.

          If your the kind who keep burning holes in their pocket with material but never applying due to lack of motivation or understanding, then seek out an offer such as James Schramko is offering, you need personal coaching and hand holding to make an investment like this worthwhile. Forget adding another 5000 pages of info material to your library, get somebody who's prepared to help you apply the information. 10 hours with an experienced mentor will be worth a thousand new e-book cluttering up your HD.

          However if you know your way around the world of IM, already make a solid living , then go for a bonus which offers you a ton of valuable material which is as near focussed to your market or requirements as possible.

          In short , perceived values can be very convicing and yet ultimately useless. What does it matter if you get $50,000 "worth" of Stompernet bonuses if you don't have a clue how to even create a basic landing page, go with what you need not with what appears the most shiny at face value.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jay Deiboldt
            Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post


            My advice to those deciding on MC2 bonus material is to decide what kind of a buyer you are and what level your at.
            This is such great advice for anyone even thinking about grabbing MC 2, and any other product out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author patchman
    lol this stuff is funny, wth would internet 'gurus' give away their secrets , this smells of free bundled crap for newbies that know jack crap about internet marketing, 2k price tag?? Yeah whatever!!
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  • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
    Anyone have link to Trey's Bonus (He's Kern's cousin)

    -Lakshay
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  • Profile picture of the author qubex
    Hey guys,

    No disrespect to anyone offering bonuses; I think it's great. But if I were buying mass control, I would not care about bonuses. It would seem like more of a distraction than anything. And if Mass Control v2 is as good as all the reviews out there, than why would someone even need a bonus.
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  • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
    OMG...

    I snapped up a copy of MC through the early bird affiliate link of Jason Mofatt. J-MO, you are right. I can just buy all those bonuses later on but your offer is incredible. Sending an email to you just now... At your gmail addy.

    Looking forward to being mentored by you.
    -Lakshay
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    For everyone who decides to buy MC2 or any other launch product for that matter, just make sure you use the frickin stuff.

    Don't add it to your likely, growing pile of IM stuff that is gathering dust.

    Been there done that, got the T-shirt.
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  • Profile picture of the author MsAngry
    I'm up for ordering, but how do I know I'm gonna be one of the "lucky 15" if we're 24 hours in?

    It's stopping me from parting with cash PM me and I'll order by 7pm UK time
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  • Profile picture of the author Al Mangones
    Sean,
    How do I get more information about your product(s) JVProductLaunch, if I'm not getting the mass control? I'm interested.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
      Originally Posted by Al Mangones View Post

      Sean,
      How do I get more information about your product(s) JVProductLaunch, if I'm not getting the mass control? I'm interested.
      Send me an email

      JVProductlaunch@gmail.com

      Looking forward to it!

      Sean
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  • Profile picture of the author longdrv4u
    This information will let you retire. What better bonus is there.
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  • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
    I know John Reese has a massive bonus as well. Below is his email,

    I've sent you several emails about the great videos that
    Frank Kern has been releasing during the pre-launch
    marketing for "Mass Control 2.0."

    If you watched any of them then you know that Frank
    has helped a lot of people make a lot of money with
    his "Mass Control" method.

    The original version of his money-getting system completely
    sold out in a matter of hours - so his NEW Version 2.0
    one will probably sell out even faster.

    LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE...

    If you're interested in buying Frank's new course, and
    I give it my highest recommendation, then I've got some
    nice GIFTS for you if you place your order using my
    affiliate link...

    You will get TWO BONUS GIFTS...

    1). You get the full recordings to an amazing Web Class
    I recently taught. The class was called the
    "2009 Business Accelerator Web Class."

    In this powerful class we covered the A-To-Z of how
    to make 2009 the best year of your life -- even in this
    challenging economy.

    2.) For your 2ND GIFT you will get a CHOICE between
    two options...

    OPTION #1:

    A copy of my "Reese Report Collection." ($2,000 Value)

    This is a 900-page, 40 CD-Rom course that contains
    a wealth of Internet Marketing information -- it covers
    practically every aspect of marketing online that you can
    think of. It also covers TONS of different niche markets
    and gives you ideas for how to make money from them.

    * Only 1,000 copies of this Collection will ever be released
    and I have some left that will be given to those that take
    advantage of this special offer. (First come, first served
    only, of course.)

    You can read more about the details of what is in this
    "Reese Report Collection" here:
    Only 1000 Test - Traffic Secrets

    *OR*

    OPTION #2:

    My "Internet Marketing Advisor" Web Course ($2,495 Value)

    I have only offered this class one-time so far, and this class
    sold out in 12 MINUTES. It was one of the highest-demand
    products that I've ever released.

    In this class I taught how to make money from the lucrative
    "Internet Marketing" market. Whether you want to be a guru,
    speak on stage, or just make a lot of money by selling to the
    lucrative IM market, this class taught tons of secrets for how
    to do it.

    The IM market (i.e. "make money online" market) is going to
    experience tremendous growth especially during tough
    economic times (as others look to make additional income.)

    So this is a great course to teach you how to take advantage
    of it. You'll get full recordings (digital download) of the entire class
    curriculum including the PDF handouts.

    ****** ONE MORE ADDITIONAL BONUS ******

    You probably don't realize this but you're also going to get
    ANOTHER BONUS in addition to all this stuff from Frank
    himself. Anyone that buys Mass Control 2.0 upon its
    release is going to get a Free Ticket to a private seminar
    that Frank is holding in April. He hasn't officially announced
    it yet but you'll be getting a Free Ticket to that special event.

    ******************************
    ***********

    Here's How To Take Advantage Of These Special Bonus Gifts:

    1.) When Mass Control 2.0 officially goes on sale on
    Monday, February 16th, 2009 at 10AM PST (1PM EST)
    you will need to use the following link to go to the site
    and place your order:

    http://www.frankkern.com/john-reese.html

    2.) After you have placed your order you will need to send
    an email copy of your receipt to Andy Hussong at
    andy@income.com.

    Tell Andy which of the two bonuses (RR Collection or IMA Class)
    that you would like.

    We will make sure and get those out to you right away.

    I'll be in touch soon!

    Yours For Online Profits,

    John Reese
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  • Profile picture of the author longdrv4u
    I wil give Adwords For Dummies and a special surprise bonus to anyone who buys through my link
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Dulisse
    All these info. products as bonuses for Mass Control. Wow.

    Yes, good stuff, but really, when will you ever get to it. I thought all you really need is Mass Control....lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    Getting error messages while trying to post, something wonkey is going on in the WF. Sorry if this is a duplicate post I will report it for deletion.
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  • Profile picture of the author imlogic
    I got an email saying they would perform oral sex on me if I bought through their link...

    Talk about adding value and going the extra mile.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Jenkins
      Originally Posted by imlogic View Post

      I got an email saying they would perform oral sex on me if I bought through their link...

      Talk about adding value and going the extra mile.
      Um... could you send me that link (off thread if you don't mind...)

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  • Profile picture of the author guyingp
    What is the mass contorl 2.0 bonus thread?
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  • Profile picture of the author LoveLinguist
    How about just a good laugh from Frank Kern - it's on me - no charge! Trust me, you'll laugh (and, Please pardon Frank's colorful language)

    Video Gift

    Sherrie Rose
    The Love Linguist
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  • Profile picture of the author James Kern
    Mass Control in itself is rather comprehensive and heaps to learn. Then to add to the learning with bonuses that require one to spend another 50+ hours of learning. Wow... when will guys ever get a chance to DO rather than LEARN.

    I know learning is important, but it makes you no money. Doing is what makes the money.

    Would be nice to see some bonuses that are software tools or graphic design jobs etc. Seems the majority of bonuses are just info products of some sort or the other.
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  • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
    Banned
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    TOO MUCH WARRIOR IN THE FORUM!
    More like too much stupid in the Warrior Forum. What else can it be when you have people justifying deceptive marketing practices, or being ok with marketers ignoring one of their key USPs by doing exactly what they said they wouldn't do?

    This industry struggles for credibility every day because of crap just like this, yet some believe it's not a big deal, lol. Their reasoning? Well, it's xyz's product, so xyz can mislead and go back on his word if he/she wants, lol.

    Too too funny.

    By the way, STILL haven't received notification from Kern on how to claim my copy of Mass Control 2.0 because I'm an original buyer of 1.0. I guess we'll have to wait another year to get this version, if ever, since we never received the original version as promised.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
      Banned
      Originally Posted by blackhatcat View Post

      More like too much stupid in the Warrior Forum.
      More like too much whining in the Warrior Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mario Brown
    Hey goldmind if you are so unhappy with the bonus then check up with frank's support team.
    I heard that if you contact them and let them know that for whatever reason you want to be signed up under another affiliate this should be no problem. I'm sure that the other affiliate wouldn't mind =)
    Anyways I'm not 100 postive about that but you should give it a shot, could save you and others a lot of nerves and time/energy.

    My 2 cents
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    • Profile picture of the author A Bary
      Ok, an update today from Matt, the delay was because of technical issues, ok, that's what I was looking for, any explanation and I'll be understanding,
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  • Profile picture of the author nobodyspecial
    Yes, video two did come out today. It's all about traffic.

    Summary:

    - use ppc, ppv and media buys.
    - to learn ppc watch the adwords videos on google's site
    - Only use Yahoo as google is a pain with slaps.
    - PPV is targeted traffic but isn't
    - You can make millions with PPV
    - To learn PPV, get PPV Formula
    - Media Buys = unlimited traffic
    - You need at least $10k (maybe $5k).
    - You have to deal with people and sign contracts
    - Make sure you get a 48 hour rescind contract clause (out clause).
    "That's it for traffic!".

    Wow, when he said he'd be painting broad strokes he wasn't kidding. The course is a joke ... people who didn't get in on it, you are missing NOTHING.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
    It's that time again, and Frank Kern's Mass Control goes live again tomorrow afternoon, the usual crazy stuff with Bonus is sure to be in full gear. Frank was cool enough to give me an affiliate, and here is what I've decided to do.

    I've been marketing since 1998. In the trading niche (day trading stocks, forex, emini's) I'm considered something of a secret weapon by the top players, but I've stayed behind the scenes.

    On the 19th my client will be on ABC 20/20, we used Mass Control on the producers to get im there.

    I think my bonus is going to be the most helpful, because I'm going to work with you one on one and show you how I have applied Mass Control to add over $8million in value to my clients business' this year.

    I don't have a single product of my own, not one. I just launch websites and refine people's business using a splash of Mass Control, a big ole dash of PLF and some of my own magic dust as well.

    I typically charge $10,000 plus 25% of the profits to do a launch, but I owe Frank big time for everything I've learned from him. So, for the first FIVE people who buy from my link will work with me on their launch to make sure they are successful.

    Most IM big wig's give you a bonus of some software, or a report or a landing page. But, if you've not used Mass Control, there are subtle things that a person who's "been there and done that" can help you with.

    If your serious about your success you need to buy Mass Control (even if it's not from my link, I still think you should have it). If you'd like to have a real helping hand, from a real person as you launch your business, then consider buying from my link, which I'll post tomorrow.

    Brandon
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    • Profile picture of the author malcasid
      Originally Posted by BrandonLee View Post

      It's that time again, and Frank Kern's Mass Control goes live again tomorrow afternoon, the usual crazy stuff with Bonus is sure to be in full gear. Frank was cool enough to give me an affiliate, and here is what I've decided to do.

      I've been marketing since 1998. In the trading niche (day trading stocks, forex, emini's) I'm considered something of a secret weapon by the top players, but I've stayed behind the scenes.

      On the 19th my client will be on ABC 20/20, we used Mass Control on the producers to get im there.

      I think my bonus is going to be the most helpful, because I'm going to work with you one on one and show you how I have applied Mass Control to add over $8million in value to my clients business' this year.

      I don't have a single product of my own, not one. I just launch websites and refine people's business using a splash of Mass Control, a big ole dash of PLF and some of my own magic dust as well.

      I typically charge $10,000 plus 25% of the profits to do a launch, but I owe Frank big time for everything I've learned from him. So, for the first FIVE people who buy from my link will work with me on their launch to make sure they are successful.

      Most IM big wig's give you a bonus of some software, or a report or a landing page. But, if you've not used Mass Control, there are subtle things that a person who's "been there and done that" can help you with.

      If your serious about your success you need to buy Mass Control (even if it's not from my link, I still think you should have it). If you'd like to have a real helping hand, from a real person as you launch your business, then consider buying from my link, which I'll post tomorrow.

      Brandon
      Wow, I see that Timothy Sykes is a client. I can't wait to see that segment on 20/20.
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      • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
        I tend to not talk about who my clients are because a lot of guys in the stock market, forex market, emini market etc do not want their clients to know that they market aggressively since that can cause a lot of hostility. Tim is one of my client though and he has been kind enoug to let me use him as a testimonial.
        He is one of the smartest guys out there, before I even came on board he was doing nearly $30,000 per month almost 100% from Facebook and Twitter. (you know the type of stuff all kinds of broker marketers try to sell courses about doing, even though they dont do it themselves...I guess they are reporters :-) )


        Originally Posted by malcasid View Post

        Wow, I see that Timothy Sykes is a client. I can't wait to see that segment on 20/20.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
    I'll be announcing a bonus at 10 am tomorrow on my ProfitMoffatt.TV show.

    Plus I'll let you see some sneak peaks of the inside.

    I can tell you Brandon (above) is a Mass Control/PLF launching maniac. Dude has been crushing it hard lately.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
    David and I have put the finishing touches on our bonus for Mass Control, and I really think its the most helpful one out there.

    Here is what we are offering.
    Full consultation with us for your product launch
    Complete JV Management for your launch
    A totally free critique of your sales letter (David wrote the sales letter for the #1 product on clickbank)
    Complete Strategic analysis of your launch and story.

    Right now we are charging anywhere from $10,000 to $30,000 upfront, plus as much as 1/3 of the profits a launch generates, and we won't work with anyone unless we think our cut will come to $150,000. That means if your new to IM, you probably would not be able to get our help.

    Here are a few of our clients.

    The Adwords Manifesto -$750,000 the first week
    The CB Code - Currently the #1 product on CB
    Tim Sykes - Earnings have grown from about $20/$30k per month to over $100K
    Wall Street Window - over $150,000 in products sold in under 30 hours
    Toni Hansen - From $8000 a month to $40,000 a month in sales
    MBTrading - The largest direct access trading firm

    I could go on, but I think you get the point. This isnt some lame guru bonus where I put together some of my old products and give them to you. I'm actually giving you the most valuable resource I have, MY TIME. I'm doing it because there are three four people I feel like I owe big time in this industry, and Kern is one of them.

    Link is in my sig.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason James
    Man you guys are amazing... I got to step up my game.. just added a 4 Week Social Media Marketing Boot Camp.

    I'll finally reveal how I got nearly 38,000 Twitter followers and how i'll probabaly have over 100,000 in the next 2 months and how my methods can be easily duplicated.

    Plus a whole lot of other cool stuff...

    Frank Kern Mass Control 2.0 Bonus Offer - Jason James
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  • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
    Thanks Jason - I'd have to say that the people I've gotten the most from are you, Frank Kern, Jeff Walker, Bob Serling and my old partner Jeff Tappan.
    Anyway I'm excited to be part of this launch, and any sales I get will be cos of your video hijacker and RFM methods.
    This is totally a side note, but my little sister closed on a house two weeks ago and just found out she lost her job today at the hospital. I'm probably going to hire her as my JV manager/assistant because she's got an insane work ethic, but I also showed her the video hijacker stuff, and she's going to use that over on Youtube to try to bring in some $$$ too, she's got three people talking to her right now, nothing closed up yet.
    Brandon
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  • Profile picture of the author josh1979
    Just to let you know guys, someone's selling Mass Control on eBay here:

    ttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&i tem=130311756968

    I'd buy it, but I can't even afford it at this discounted price :'(
    I reckon it should go to someone that deserves it!
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