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Warriors,

Anyone has been part of Beta testing Google Cash Detective? When is it out in the market? Reviews?

Thanks,
#cash #detective #google #refunds #review #scam
  • Profile picture of the author A Bary
    Originally Posted by Amfire View Post

    Warriors,

    Anyone has been part of Beta testing Google Cash Detective? When is it out in the market? Reviews?

    Thanks,
    oh almighty god,

    not again!!!!!!

    GCD will be back?

    I was part of the first release of this product,, and it was way the biggest failure in internet history,
    Don't know if there're improvements to the software, but it was one of the most painful experiences in my life,
    Chris Carpenter is a good marketer, I learned from his google cash ebook, but this software affected his image significantly
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    • Profile picture of the author Eswar
      Try some good alternatives such as ppcbully and keywordspy. These services are far better than googlecash detective.
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      • Profile picture of the author assoc
        Im using it now and they have really got it working like a champ.
        When it first came out it really sucked but now I can see every keyword for any
        ppc campaign on google and how long the ad has been running in minutes
        in my opinion it really does what they say it does and there are no monthly fees.
        Brian
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        • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
          Yep, forget what you heard about GCD first time around. I've used just about every spy tool there is (PPC Bully, iSpionage, Zamdoo, Under Cover Profits, AdSpyPro, etc.) and this is the best.

          Main reason is that it has a database of a couple million keywords and has been tracking them for several months. All I do is drop in a keyword, and I see every advertiser's ad that has been running against it, and how long they have been running.

          All other tools require you to enter your keywords, then wait until they BEGIN searching on them, from that day forward. So you'll wait 20-30 days to see if the keyword is still being run by an advertiser.

          GCD gives you that data now, so it slashes the time it takes to enter a market. It lets you see all the advertisers ads and in some cases you can see what other markets that advertiser is in (useful if you want to track and emulate a superaffiliate.)

          I went through the pain of the first GCD launch, and was skeptical when I heard it was back out. But I've been using it for a month, entering markets profitably, as well as expanding my keywords for existing markets I am in.

          I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around. Keep an eye out for the launch (although I am part of the beta I am not privvy to the launch date.)

          Cheers,
          Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author legitimatemoney
            Originally Posted by crudenbay View Post

            Yep, forget what you heard about GCD first time around. I've used just about every spy tool there is (PPC Bully, iSpionage, Zamdoo, Under Cover Profits, AdSpyPro, etc.) and this is the best.

            Main reason is that it has a database of a couple million keywords and has been tracking them for several months. All I do is drop in a keyword, and I see every advertiser's ad that has been running against it, and how long they have been running.

            All other tools require you to enter your keywords, then wait until they BEGIN searching on them, from that day forward. So you'll wait 20-30 days to see if the keyword is still being run by an advertiser.

            GCD gives you that data now, so it slashes the time it takes to enter a market. It lets you see all the advertisers ads and in some cases you can see what other markets that advertiser is in (useful if you want to track and emulate a superaffiliate.)

            I went through the pain of the first GCD launch, and was skeptical when I heard it was back out. But I've been using it for a month, entering markets profitably, as well as expanding my keywords for existing markets I am in.

            I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around. Keep an eye out for the launch (although I am part of the beta I am not privvy to the launch date.)

            Cheers,
            Frank
            Ditto on Frank's comments.
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    • Profile picture of the author richfit
      Originally Posted by goldmind123 View Post

      oh almighty god,

      not again!!!!!!

      GCD will be back?

      I was part of the first release of this product,, and it was way the biggest failure in internet history,
      Don't know if there're improvements to the software, but it was one of the most painful experiences in my life,
      Chris Carpenter is a good marketer, I learned from his google cash ebook, but this software affected his image significantly
      Hey man,

      His software has been fixed and has been cleaned up. Chris knows that his reputation was on the line back then and didn't see the problems exploding before his eyes. Even if you don't get the software on the release date, I suggest you check out his videos...they Rock!

      They were so good in fact I couldn't sleep...
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      I think you should keep yourself from trouble. It is a smart move on your part to ask this question at this time.
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    What do you mean there is no monthly fee? I just signed up and there is!
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    • Profile picture of the author wilson765
      Originally Posted by toptones View Post

      What do you mean there is no monthly fee? I just signed up and there is!
      I don't think you've signed up for version 2 my friend as the launch date is not till 10th March.
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      • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
        Yes - there is a monthly fee for Google Cash Detective. Some beta users
        received a complimentary membership, to exchange for honest feedback.

        This is the best spy software on the market - full stop.

        Chris has invested over $350,000 into developing the software.
        I don't know many other gurus who have spent that sort of money ...

        In fact - I know of none

        GCD is pretty insane! (Full disclosure - I'm associated with this product)
        The upcoming launch videos will completely "re-define" the way the
        Internet Marketing community thinks about spy tools in general.

        It took me less than 5 minutes to "find and clone" an unbelievably
        profitable, long-term affiliate marketing campaign, created by
        some poor fellow ...

        He (she?) probably ensured months of hard 'trial & error', attempting to
        find the most profitable keywords. Which advertisements got the most
        clicks. How much to pay per click. What position to place advertisements,
        and most important of all- what actual product to promote ...

        And yet - I cloned the entire campaign, from top to bottom in less
        than five minutes. It's instantly profitable. I got it all down on video.

        Like I said ... this software is about to change *everything*.

        No one's affiliate campaigns are safe any more ...

        Even landing page campaigns get ripped to pieces and totally revealed.

        No one is safe. Everyone's successful affiliate marketing secrets are
        about to be unveiled in just weeks ...

        If you have an existing, Google Cash direct linking, or landing page
        orientated campaign (that's making you money right now) ... well,
        it's only a matter of time until you have dozens of competitors.

        The longer you have been making money - the most trouble you're in.

        Google Cash Detective 2 allows customers to peer into the entire PPC
        campaign of literally anyone. Millions of keywords are being tracked.
        Millions and MILLIONS of advertisements. Affiliate links - and dozens
        of other metrics. This software is 100 times more powerful than the
        next most powerful spy tool. (That's not even an exaggeration ...)

        It's an entire order of magnitude better. This will change things.

        I'm not going to reveal anymore - because we're jumping ahead of
        the launch here (actually, we jumping ahead of the pre-launch!) but
        make sure you watch the upcoming videos.

        Chris is about to drop a bomb on the internet affiliate marketing industry,
        just like he did back in 2003, when he released the original Google Cash
        system - that revealed how to combine PPC advertising and affiliate
        marketing. He was basically the first to reveal this type of system,
        and he has always been on the cutting edge ... but this software
        will create a massive impact.

        I can't wait!
        Jonathan Paul
        P.S. - Full disclosure - I am associated with the upcoming GCD launch.
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        • Profile picture of the author luboff
          Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

          Yes - there is a monthly fee for Google Cash Detective. Some beta users
          received a complimentary membership, to exchange for honest feedback.

          This is the best spy software on the market - full stop.

          Chris has invested over $350,000 into developing the software.
          I don't know many other gurus who have spent that sort of money ...

          In fact - I know of none

          GCD is pretty insane! (Full disclosure - I'm associated with this product)
          The upcoming launch videos will completely "re-define" the way the
          Internet Marketing community thinks about spy tools in general.

          It took me less than 5 minutes to "find and clone" an unbelievably
          profitable, long-term affiliate marketing campaign, created by
          some poor fellow ...

          He (she?) probably ensured months of hard 'trial & error', attempting to
          find the most profitable keywords. Which advertisements got the most
          clicks. How much to pay per click. What position to place advertisements,
          and most important of all- what actual product to promote ...

          And yet - I cloned the entire campaign, from top to bottom in less
          than five minutes. It's instantly profitable. I got it all down on video.

          Like I said ... this software is about to change *everything*.

          No one's affiliate campaigns are safe any more ...

          Even landing page campaigns get ripped to pieces and totally revealed.

          No one is safe. Everyone's successful affiliate marketing secrets are
          about to be unveiled in just weeks ...

          If you have an existing, Google Cash direct linking, or landing page
          orientated campaign (that's making you money right now) ... well,
          it's only a matter of time until you have dozens of competitors.

          The longer you have been making money - the most trouble you're in.

          Google Cash Detective 2 allows customers to peer into the entire PPC
          campaign of literally anyone. Millions of keywords are being tracked.
          Millions and MILLIONS of advertisements. Affiliate links - and dozens
          of other metrics. This software is 100 times more powerful than the
          next most powerful spy tool. (That's not even an exaggeration ...)

          It's an entire order of magnitude better. This will change things.

          I'm not going to reveal anymore - because we're jumping ahead of
          the launch here (actually, we jumping ahead of the pre-launch!) but
          make sure you watch the upcoming videos.

          Chris is about to drop a bomb on the internet affiliate marketing industry,
          just like he did back in 2003, when he released the original Google Cash
          system - that revealed how to combine PPC advertising and affiliate
          marketing. He was basically the first to reveal this type of system,
          and he has always been on the cutting edge ... but this software
          will create a massive impact.

          I can't wait!
          Jonathan Paul
          P.S. - Full disclosure - I am associated with the upcoming GCD launch.
          Should be named Google Cash Theft! Jeez, have you no morality at all? We might as well all pack up now - everyone's soon going to be thieving off everyone else. And it looks as though he's being praised for it - whereas he's just a master thief - teaching all the rest how to be just like him. God help us!
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        • Profile picture of the author Omair.Makda
          wow .. sounds good.. i cant wait to get my hands on it ..
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          • Profile picture of the author 4runner
            Originally Posted by Omair.Makda View Post

            wow .. sounds good.. i cant wait to get my hands on it ..
            Aggh.. forum spambots infiltrating this thread too...

            Anyway, I got an email from GCD about my refund that I requested back on Apr.8th - you probably got it too so I guess we just have to sit tight...

            "Thank you for your email.

            After receiving emails from our customers regarding their refunds. We have found a glitch in the refund process that has caused a delay in the communication between our end and your credit card company. We are working to resolve this issue and will be getting your refund credited to your account as quick as possible.

            We appreciate your patience and apologize"

            On another note, and get ready for the onslaught of promotion for another tool coming soon - I will puke when I start getting emails from the "gurus" who pitched us on GCD2.0 and then they will have the audacity to pitch this next one. I'm actually looking forward to this product, but I'm not looking forward to the plethora of hyping that will inevitably start from all the gurus who are still counting their commission cheques from their GCD promotions.

            Do you really think they give 2 sh*ts that you just spent 2k - and gave them 1k in commissions? Will they even think twice before sending you the promo on this NEXT tool?

            I doubt it.

            Before you buy the next product through a guru's emailed affiliate link, make sure you ask yourself what was the true value they provided to your purchase and did they deserve that commission - or are they just continually pitching you stuff because you bought one thing from them in the past and now they feel it's their God given right to pitch you everything else under the sun because you're on their buyers list...

            something to think about.

            T.
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            • Profile picture of the author AffiliateMax
              Originally Posted by 4-runner View Post

              Before you buy the next product through a guru's emailed affiliate link, make sure you ask yourself what was the true value they provided to your purchase and did they deserve that commission - or are they just continually pitching you stuff because you bought one thing from them in the past and now they feel it's their God given right to pitch you everything else under the sun because you're on their buyers list...

              something to think about.

              T.
              Agreed. Or to quote from an email Perry Marshall sent out to his list yesterday:

              "If my emails are wasting your time, then UNSUBSCRIBE.
              Get off my list and don't let me waste any more of your time.
              Your time is valuable. Treat it like it's worth $1000 an hour
              and someday it will be.

              Same goes with every other email list you're on. Has
              the person given you valuable insights and help in the
              last month? Or has he only constantly pitched you on
              stuff?

              If it's the latter, then unsubscribe. That person is not
              contributing anything to your life."


              Good advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    If you have an existing, Google Cash direct linking, or landing page
    orientated campaign (that's making you money right now) ... well,
    it's only a matter of time until you have dozens of competitors.
    This is really true no matter what...

    Google has slapped any sort of direct-linking pretty hard and if all you're doing is using a landing page then you're years behind the curve anyway.

    Tools like this will never stop those that are using Adwords to build lists and promote products...and that's where the real money is.

    This is not an attack on GCD, but food for thought about how most people go about trying to make money. Remember, if you steal a campaign because it's flagged by GCD...then someone else can do the same to you.

    If Chris really does have hundreds of thousands invested in this software, then no doubt he had a feature built in that will auto-flag long running campaigns and notify him of them...that's the problem with these types of systems. You never know what is being done with the data.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      Tools like this will never stop those that are using Adwords
      to build lists and promote products...and that's where the
      real money is.
      I agreed 100% ...

      And GCD makes it easier than ever, to identify exactly these types
      of advertisers. You will know which keywords they are advertising under,
      what position their advertisements are in, their entire long-term history
      (both success and failed ads), the actual copy used in their adverts
      (including every variation they ever tried - both good and bad), and
      their keywords, cost per clicks and much, much more ...

      With this information, you can decide to clone their entire strategy,
      and setup your own landing page, to build a similar list. As you would
      know - *most* affiliates that attempt to build a list using Adwords
      simply FAIL - because it's really expensive to grow a list in highly
      competitive industries ...

      And yet GCD points out the exact people doing it .... from thousands
      who are failing - (and who have already failed). You can effortlessly
      move into a brand new niche, and build a mailing list - by cloing the
      exact strategies of proven, long-term advertisers ...

      Simply identifying these people is often near impossible, especially
      across thousands of keywords ... and yet GCD does it in seconds,
      with about 4 mouse clicks. You can start, by cloning the winners!
      (And this allows you to avoid mistakes, and costly trial and error)

      The software is currently monitoring millions of keywords ...

      (And funny enough, thousands and thousands and thousands of
      long-term, super successful direct linking campaigns that prove
      the simple notion that direct linking is FAR FROM DEAD!)[/quote]

      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      If Chris really does have hundreds of thousands invested in this software, then no doubt he had a feature built in that will auto-flag long running campaigns and notify him of them...that's the problem with these types of systems. You never know what is being done with the data.
      I think he got a bargain - even having spent 350k on development. lol

      And *ALL* members have the same ability to flag long-term successful
      campagins, in any niche, for any keyword. Just so you know - there are
      thousands and thousands and thousands of successful long-term
      affiliate marketing campaigns worth cloning ...

      Certainly more than Chris could ever hope to clone ...

      It would take an entire army to flag and clone all of the SUCCESSFUL
      long-term, direct linking campaigns - let alone the successful squeeze
      page, list building campaigns.

      We're talking about the entire PPC industry ...

      Millions of keywords. Millions of advertising campaigns. And, without
      even exaggerating - millions of opportunities to identify and clone
      long-term successful, affiliate marketing campaigns of all types

      I can't wait for the launch. I'm like a giddy school child!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      Google has slapped any sort of direct-linking pretty hard and if all you're doing is using a landing page then you're years behind the curve anyway.
      Running PPC Web Spy ATM and I still see a TON of Direct Linking going on..

      ..Remember, if you steal a campaign because it's flagged by GCD...then someone else can do the same to you...
      True..but how you convert that traffic will have a greater impact on YOUR bottom line...copy my ads all you want, but if you can't convert the click you got instead of me...then does it really matter who copied who? I don't think so and that's where I see the 'winners' breaking away from the 'wanna-bees'.

      Then again, this is just my opinion on the matter anyway...we'll see though once GDC comes out and we start getting some initial feedback from the users of the software and whether or not it works.


      Ray

      EDIT: I'd like to know how this software stacks up against PPC Classroom 2...
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    My point was that you can never "clone" someone building a list via Adwords with a simple tool.

    I have an autoresponder loaded with 2 years worth of messages, affiliate promos and promos for my own products running under some of my Adwords ads. THAT is how you negate the competition.

    In addition, quality score makes the issue clouded even further. I have the position I do on some keywords because of my CTR, account history, keywords history etc. Google also looks at the way your ad groups are set up as well...GCD can't see that.

    You could clone my exact ad and Google would say, "sorry, poor quality score" while for me it's great because of my history and positive account history and the way I've structured my ad groups and keyword groups.

    As you know, two ads right next to each other may vary in price wildly thanks to quality score.

    As you said, you're involved with the product so obviously you view it favorably. My point was simply that the "easy pickins" out there are short-lived anyway.

    I think very very few people have the mindset to capitalize on tools like GCD, most people are just chasing the next big thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      I agree with all of your points

      Yes - cloning sophisticated campaigns like the one you describe is not easy.
      That's why I prefer to clone simple, successful campains using GCD. There
      are over 66,000 according to my recent search results. It only took me
      about 5 minutes to find them all, using a single wildcard search.

      Chris has some stunning videos coming out soon. I hope he has a sweet
      offer for Warriors. That would be awesome
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        • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
          I have personally found hundreds of thousands of long-term successful
          affiliate marketing campaigns. There are literally millions of advertisements
          in Adwords. GCD is watching over 20 million Ad combinations right now,
          and that number is growing exponentially each week ...

          What most people fail to realize is ... the "Internet Marketing" community
          is unbelievably small. The people who represent the cutting edge of this
          technology, are small in number. And, the people make a "full-time living"
          promoting affiliate programs - are even smaller in number ...

          There is simply no way that we could all "clone each other's campaigns".
          There are hundreds of millions of successful Adwords combinations.

          It is not a "lose-lose" situation either ...

          If you start by cloning a successful campaign - you *can* improve it.
          GCD allows you to leap-frog most of the "trial and error" and mistakes.

          By cloning successful, long-term campaigns, you start at a point that
          takes other affiliates months to arrive at ... and as a result, your bid
          prices will be lower - and will continue to drop ...

          It is also important to note - that very limited people will have access
          to GCD. This is a high ticket item. It offers insight into the entire PPC
          industry that is unrivaled. There is simply no other software that is
          even close to Google Cash Detective. It is very comprehensive ...

          The way I see it ... this is like WordTracker on steroids. Millions and
          millions of keywords. Millions of ads. Four months of historical data.

          The ability to find successful "long-term" affiliate marketing campaigns
          in just seconds - across thousands of different niche industries. This
          is a complete game changer ...

          Transparency and serious competitor analysis has "arrived" in PPC.







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            • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
              The "scarcity" idea is actually defined by the needs of the software.

              It's not so much the software and hardware - but more the "demands"'
              placed on the Google search engine, backend APIs and stuff. There will
              certainly be "limited" memberships - and not simply because scarcity
              boosts conversion rates.

              It's a heavy, complicated system - but it needs to run lightning fast.
              (And it does) - Think of Wordtracker, or Aweber etc. These top-tier
              services run really fast, even though they're quite complicated ...

              The GCD software exists in a cloud computing server environment, and
              up-scales very easily, but it's not so easy to put more and more demands
              on Google. After all - the software is investigating millions of keywords on
              a daily basis ...

              (And just in case anyone is worried - "No", this is not an issue.
              We have arrangements in place to make sure this is appropriate)

              I think most people in the Internet Marketing world, are a little skeptical
              about so called scarcity. But, there will certainly be limits to the amount
              of members we take in over the next few months ...

              Also - just so you know ... we have video training, conference calls and
              an active help desk and forum. Our main priority is looking after members.
              Growing too quickly would be very dangerous. In part - that is what made
              our previous launch "difficult" ...

              $350,000 and 16 months later - things have been updated quite a lot.

              This is the start of a brand new top-tier service. It's not a "fly by night"
              operation - or a grab for cash. Just wait until you see the sort of money
              Chris is making with "old Skool" direct linking. lol

              The video proof is going to knock down the haters. Direct linking never
              died. The original Google Cash method is even more profitable than ever,
              no matter what the so called "Experts" tell you ...

              How do I know?

              Well - let's just say I am using GCD - a piece of software that shows me
              hundreds of thousands of direct linking campaigns, that have been running
              for over 4 months. All their keywords. Their ad copy. Their positions. Their
              cost per clicks. Their direct linking affiliate links. Their competitors, and the
              overall profitability of each campaign.

              (And, my GCD membership is the same as everyone else)

              There are no "super accounts or anything like that. Everyone has the
              same access to ALL the data. There is simply too much opportunity to
              restrict the data. There would be no point really. GCD represents the
              entire Adwords market place. It offers stunning information that can
              often contradict the so-called gurus.

              It's not just a claim. The Google Cash Detective will prove to the world,
              that direct linking is still alive and active - and used by tens of thousands
              of affiliates (right now). Quality Score issues are not as divisive as many
              people think. The raw data shows this plainly ...

              And - as I noted above ... it's not just about direct linking. GCD also shows
              you the landing page campaigns being run by hundreds of thousands of
              webmasters in different niches. You can even watch slide-shows! Apple
              cover-flow style - to get a feel for an industry, or a keyword ...

              By identifying the successful landing page campaigns, you can clone them.
              And - there are skeptics that say "No you can't" ... well ... yes you can.

              In fact, I foresee an explosion in outsourcing as a result of the GCD launch.

              After all, how difficult is it to clone a landing page design, if you know
              which keywords the advertiser is bidding on. How much they pay. What
              position their ads are in. The actual words (and every variation) of Ads
              they ever ran over the last 4 months. Their success rates and those of
              their competitors. The keyword volume per day and much, much more ...

              It's basically like "spying" into their actual Adwords campaign - except,
              you have EVEN MORE information at your disposal, because it like looking
              into *everyone's* Adwords campaigns in a particular niche ...

              Chris and I have already cloned 5 "long-term" successful landing page
              campaigns, along with dozens of direct linking campaigns. It's easy.

              No. Really. It's unbelievable easy ...

              And - there are literally hundreds of thousands of campaigns in niches
              we have never even considered. I love throwing random keywords into
              the software, just to see who is killing it in the Adwords market place ...

              I just can't wait until it launches. It's going to spawn SO MANY different
              ebooks, courses, training systems and such ...

              Kind of like what happened when Chris released the original Google Cash
              strategies back in 2003. He was certainly one of the first in the world to
              offer up his secrets ... and since then, his core advice has been copied
              by hundreds of direct competitors ...

              PPC is about to become a cloning "free for all". Originality is over-rated!
              (especially when you can lose HUGE money through PPC trial and error)


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          • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
            we get google cash not google cash detective if we are members of ppc classroom. it is there already under partner bonuses.
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      • Profile picture of the author mott
        Originally Posted by NewQuestions View Post

        Yes - cloning sophisticated campaigns like the one you describe is not easy.
        That's why I prefer to clone simple, successful campains using GCD. There
        are over 66,000 according to my recent search results. It only took me
        about 5 minutes to find them all, using a single wildcard search.
        Jonathan thanks for your posts about this product, they are quite informative. I have a couple of questions. You mentioned the product is perfect for beginners; does it tell how to do a search like you described (to find simple campaigns), and does it teach how to properly "clone" campaigns?

        Thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author MajorK
      The cool thing about this product so far is that it does not do the same thing on MSN or Yahoo. So you are still able to fly under the radar there. Plus there are other ways to hide what you are doing from software like this.
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      • Profile picture of the author apa101
        Originally Posted by MajorK View Post

        The cool thing about this product so far is that it does not do the same thing on MSN or Yahoo. So you are still able to fly under the radar there. Plus there are other ways to hide what you are doing from software like this.
        Not here to promote or brag about but just to inform you about GCD2.. The feature to crawl MSN & Yahoo Engines is going to come up soon! Most probably in next 3-4 months.

        Chris is working upon it with his coders. Just waiting for the launch and response yet to move ahead and start that up tooo!!
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  • Profile picture of the author onefreekiwinz
    Use Matt Cullens KeyWordSpy...
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    • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
      KeyWordSpy allows "professional" members
      (the highest level of membership) to monitor
      500 keywords per month (for $139!/month!) ...

      Google Cash Detective allows you to monitor an unlimited amount.
      (Which is just perfect when you find an advertiser who has 10,000+
      keywords. You can monitor them all. Try doing that with Keywordspy!)

      There is simply no software that is even in the "same league" as GCD ...

      J.
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      • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
        Sorry - at this stage, I cannot give out pricing details ...

        They are not finalised, and that's not my call at all. My role is
        more in technical support and public relations etc.

        However, I do know it has a lower monthly fee than KeywordSpy
        and most other comparable tools. The pricing strategy is actually
        a balance between the "resources used" and the opportunity.

        This might sound a little whacky ... but the software becomes more
        powerful as more and more people use it. It also becomes more powerful
        over time, as the historical data continues to accumulate. You can dump
        your own keywords into the system as well ... so it continues growing ...

        And - just in case you're worried ...

        No - nobody is going to "steal" your well-researched keywords. In fact,
        they are most likely already in the system. There are millions and millions
        of keywords in the system already. We want customers to dump all of
        their keywords into the system ... because it offers the best view
        of *every* PPC niche industry.

        (And like I said above - there are millions of affiliate marketing opporunties.
        This entire concept will NEVER be saturated. And the owner cannot take
        advantage of the raw data any more than an average user. There is far
        too much opportunity here, for any one person to "hoard" ...)

        Price will be kept lower than competitors to attract new customers,
        and also new content/keywords - but also high enough to maintain
        stability and speed etc. It's not strictly a "money grab" pricing strategy.

        I do know one thing though ... and this might also sound a little cliche.

        The price is going to go up. Not down. As more data is accumulated,
        the gulf between GCD and its spy competitors widens by the hour ...

        It's not an idle threat either. Chris has plans to make this software
        an industry staple. There are companies that spend hundreds of
        thousands of dollars, each and every month on Pay Per Click advertising.

        These types of people are VERY interested in competitor analysis,
        and $100 a month is a bit of a joke to them to be honest. In fact,
        we considered pricing the system at around $10,000 a month.

        It's worth it ... if you save that much money, or MAKE that much money
        as a result of the data. Believe me ... there are loads of companies in this
        situation ...

        We're just lucky Chris is a PPC affiliate like most of us. His stats are
        stunning. Just mind blowing, and now he reveals his secret tool. lol



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        • Profile picture of the author curiousguy
          Please let me know,does it contain any tutorial about PPC and do you recommend the system for newbie?
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          • Profile picture of the author NewQuestions
            Yes ... the Google Cash Detective is basically perfect for beginners.

            The team has spent a LOT of time developing videos, and all customers
            receive a free copy of the brand new Google Cash 4 Home Study Course.

            This is the premier PPC and Affiliate Marketing course. It has stood the
            test of time, and has been around since 2003. This is the 4th edition ...

            The current beta testers are very excited (and satisfied) with the training
            videos, and we are developing an environment of profit ... sounds cool right?

            The JVs are sending out info some time tonight or tomorrow ...


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            • Profile picture of the author assoc
              Hi
              If Im already a GCD member will I still keep getting the same use as I do now or will
              I have to upgrade
              Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author lassitermarketing
      Originally Posted by onefreekiwinz View Post

      Use Matt Cullens KeyWordSpy...
      His data is 30 days behind...
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  • Profile picture of the author chatdam
    google cash = google adword technic yes or no.
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    • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
      I'm a beta tester, supposed to be getting one to one support, this is not the case i have more questions than answers, support atre VERY slow, and zero one on one, never recieved google cash 4 either!!! bit annoyed i had such high hopes to !!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    I just saw the two first videos (about 30m each) and I admit my jaw dropped, it looks so damn amazing - it seemingly takes out all the guesswork out of it. In fact, I've never seen such a product. Looks the closest to an automatic money machine possible.

    That's why I came here, to see comments on it. I hope more beta testers comment for the forum. checkmuldoon's experience looks a far too common one these days - amazing launch campaigns followed by zero customer support once you're in.


    And NewQuestions is biased like he said himself. He basically repeats what we see in the ads and videos. So I'm sceptical, but if it does what it says, it's simply amazing. I want to know the price that's for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    I just saw the videos my self..interesting stuff indeed...however the fact that it has a database with all those direct linking campaigns is a turn off for me...Your going to have a bunch of people looking at the same information/data set...kind of kills the point.

    Personally, anything related to spying I want to be kept private and seen by my eyes only...Right now my favorite spy tool is ppc kahuna. I got in on the beta and its turns out to be pretty bad ass. There is alot of aspects to the system (a tool that works like speed PPC, a landing page generator thats like LPgen, A bunch of training videos and PDF's on how to use the tools for PPC and SEO, ect) but the core element is a desktop tool that allows you to pretty much do what all these spy tools do just privately on your own computer. The downside is you your using your own computer resources and your building your own database, but over all it's much more flexible and safer IMO.

    You can add custom detection strings to pretty much catch a direct link from any affiliate network. It comes pre loaded with something like 20 networks already..You can also get creative and have it look for tracking ids/codes to catch smart affiliates who are not direct linking but using landing pages. The fact they use tracking URLs shows they know what they are doing...

    I also hear they any day now they will be adding the ability to track not just PPC ads on google, but on yahoo and msn...should be freaking killer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    That PPC Kahuna looks like the bomb too. But going back to "all have access to the database", wouldn't Chad and his crew be shooting themselves in the foot by sharing this if that were true?

    While there may be millions of affiliate offers out there, the winners make up a pretty low number, probably below 10 000, if that. So we compete for those. Still, that's a lot. And his database is supposed to contain lots of other networks besides the overused clickbank.

    I hope we get more feedback from Beta testers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr BOLD
    a little out of box thinking is required when you use a program like gcdetective. even if there are only 10,000 affiliate offers that are winners the keyword database holds like 2 million keywords.

    For the same keyword there can be 100 different affiliates direct linking 100 different offers. So there is no real threat like 1000 people having access to gcdetective is going to saturate the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author namlu501
    Hi!

    Does the huge keyword list handled by GCD include languages besides english?

    Damien
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  • Profile picture of the author jon poland
    I have a question for NewQuestions or anyone else who can help me out.

    I watched the videos last night and I am very impressed with GC Detective. However, there is one strategy that Chris employed that has me a bit confused. I am hoping you can provide a little clarity for me.

    Chris was doing a direct linking campaign with a keyword that gets over 1 million searches a month. But the display url and the destination url did not match one another.

    The destination url was his clickbank hop link that takes you to the sales page at reversephonedetective.com and his display url was reversephonedetective-free.com. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Google kill campaigns that use this tactic?

    I know that Chris did not want to use "reversephonedetective.com" as the display url because another marketer was using this and he did not want to get into a bidding war. But my question is: how does he get by using "reversephonedetective-free.com" when the visitor lands on reversephonedetective.com?

    Also, when you go to in reversephonedetective-free.com you can see that it is not a viable domain. Chris simply used it as a "Display" url for his campaign.

    Thanks.

    Jon
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    Good question Jon. I was thinking the same thing but didn't try to go to his website like you did.
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    • Profile picture of the author tedam
      Good String & Good Posts.

      I watched the GCD videos yesterday and was awestruck. My first exposure to Chris who strikes me as a very solid/honest guy. And the product looks amazing. But here are my questions for SEO Steve or anyone else who can help...

      Spyfu allows you to get key word history and ads (going back over a year for millions of key words) though it doesn't have some of the stats GCD displays nor can you do wild card searches (I don't think) How is SpyFu different (better or worse) than Key Word Tracker?

      Also I agree that key word tracking is essential. I've been using Stats Junky beta for couple of weeks and it seems to be pretty powerful. Any idea how it compares to XTreme Conversions or Affilliate Prophet?

      Though it looks like GCD will be a game changer, I hope it doesn't change the game too fast. At least not so fast that I can't catch up! Still getting my feet wet in this PPC Game.

      Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on the above questions...
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    • Profile picture of the author jgand
      Good to see that people have experience with this and this is something to keep an eye on.

      It seems like the whole program is subject to abuse and easily taken advantage of. Sounds as if there are a lot of problems. Thanks for the info.
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    • Profile picture of the author snowjunior
      Hi guys,

      I was on the beta testing for GCD, and am still a cust there (was the 'raving mate' posted by my good friend SEOSteve - thanks for that buddy )

      Anyway, heres my 'insider' view so far..

      I bought the program because i'm getting into the PPC game and could not find a spy tool that searched already 'up & running' ads rather than plunk in the kw's and monitor over a week or two.

      So that was one point i bought it for.

      The other was the ease of use to spy on other campaigns and simply clone them.

      Like others have said before, this is simply a tool. It may or may NOT make you money, depending on your actions.

      Chris has uploaded a stack of training videos since the launch, but i have to admit the real guts of the program has yet to be realised. People in the insider forums are itching to get into the game and there is a bit of whinging going on to get everything going (fair enough too).

      I think it is a step up from PPC Classroom imho, because it has the tools there, and it not just a training tool.

      On the negative side, i tested out GCD with one of my failing campaigns, and lo-and-behold, it shows my ads running up consistantly and at good profitability which someone else would have seen as something worth cloning. So that is something to be careful of with this tool.

      The other thing is i have yet to make any money with this tool, BUT having said that i haven't taken enough action either because i'm still learning tracking techniques before i start throwing money on the table using PPC with this tool. Also, the GCD method has some pretty scary techniques for newbies who are hesitant about the google ppc monster...

      There is no doubt in my mind however that this program is worth the money.

      It is NOT

      a) get rich quick
      b) the Holy Grail

      It is simply an awesome tool for HELPING find the best offers, ads, and landing pages in any given market.

      Hope this helps anyone sitting on the fence.. Any further questions feel free to PM me.

      Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author MH Vishal
      Hey,
      There has been 100 beta tester of the GCD2 and from what I've seen there are many success stories.We personally use the software and even though we're in the early days we have been able to identify profitable compaigns and swipe them for own benefits.It really is too easy
      Thanks,
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by MH Vishal View Post

        Hey,
        There has been 100 beta tester of the GCD2 and from what I've seen there are many success stories.We personally use the software and even though we're in the early days we have been able to identify profitable compaigns and swipe them for own benefits.It really is too easy
        Thanks,
        Show me the money. Show me the hard proof - and not some doctored Clickbank screenshots either. I don't see many "success stories" and I really have my doubts.

        Here's the javascript if you want to know how to do it campers. Open the Clickbank (or PayPal or whatever) earnings page. Paste the script into your browser and hey presto! Overnight millionaire LOL.

        Uh hang on. Not sure I'm allowed to put javascript here. Just Google "YahooCash4CompleteIdiots" and you'll find the script under "Do you really believe those Clickbank earnings screenshots?"
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    • Profile picture of the author verj0014
      Originally Posted by jrise View Post

      What he did was DOMAIN FORWARDING AND MASKING.
      Very simple and I have done it all the time and Google never Bitch slapped me for it.

      I always go to godaddy.com and buy a domain that has something of my main keyword in it. Then I go to my domain manager and click on the forward tab. There I copy and paste my affiliate link. then I click on 301. Then I go to the masking tab and click on masking enable and I write a masking title.

      Then I wait 5 minutes so that godaddy can set everything up.
      What I then do is go to adwords and I fill in both the destination and display url the same domain that I have forwarded with Godaddy.

      Easy as 1,2 3 and now you dont have to go on a bidding war with someone and you are still direct linking. Something I learned from Michael Macks or whatever his name is

      Sorry for my sometimes broken english

      I saluut
      what is google cash detective btw?
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by verj0014 View Post

        what is google cash detective btw?
        Mate, when you want to know something or find out some information on something, just use Google Search. To do a Broad Search - that is - any result containing those words in any order, Enter - Google Cash Detective into the search bar.

        For a search of the phrase - put your query in inverted commas like this -"Google Cash Detective".

        If you want an EXACT search (as you've written it) enter it with square brackets like this [Google Cash Detective] .

        The last will usually give you the least results but will be more targeted. But in this case I got 406,000 results for a Broad Search. 97,700 results for a "Phrase Search" and 98,600 results for an [exact Search]. The results were off because of the word "Google".

        That technique is also a good way of searching for niche keywords. First do a Broad Search and note the number of results. Then do a "Phrase" and an [Exact] search and note the numbers. If you get a big disparity - like 100,000 results for Broad and only 6,000 results for "Phrase" it usually means there's not a lot of competition for those keywords. Conversely if the Broad and Phrase searches are about the same number of results - there's a lot of competition - a lot of people optimizing or competing for those keywords.

        Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author lakatos
      you can clone the ads and keywords, but unless you landing page have similar quality score that matches the original , the results will be very different right ?.. if the one you are cloning is running the campaign for a long time, his history will also give a good quality score that a new commer trying to clone will not match ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Dawber
      I joined GCD but I had to leave as I was laid off from work.

      I was gutted as I could see that this would without a doubt give me the ability to make money.

      GUTTED I SAY!

      If you have the chance jump on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author etreet
      anybody wanna share the GCD+GCA with me? I bough it in $1997,but I use it sometime but not all the time,i feel it 's a waste,I would like to share with somebody who is strongly wanna use this powerful tool! (IT's SO Powerful) if you are interested in sharing(half price) and you are also living in vancouver,canada ,please contact me. attilakhan@msn.com
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      • Profile picture of the author themarketingdirt
        I checked with the bank today and confirmed it twice. NO refund even after waiting for 11 days ever though I asked for it within a 30 day guarantee period.

        This isn't about whether the software works or not anymore, but a matter of honest business ethnics. You state a 30 day guarantee, you either honor it or it's fraud. Hopefully I'm wrong. I'm trying to contact Chris to get my money back without filing a charge-back. Can anyone provide me a working phone number where I can call his company directly?
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    • Profile picture of the author helenback
      I have been looking at gcd, but for now decided to buy affiliate prophit as recomended. the trouble is it looks really complicated. I know this is off topic but I want to do direct linking because I have just spent almost 2 months doing my first campaign of landing page and god knows how long working out this php code, found out my program dosnt support it.
      direct linking is the way I want to go. I got affiliate prophit because I thought it was the only way to do direct linking without google penalising you.
      I also read after I bought the program that you can only cloak 3 domains.
      also I know I need to have a domain name but do I still have to have a website ieven if I am direct linking, as I dont understand why I would need a server.
      please can some one explain to me in laymans terms,
      thankyou
      helen
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      • Profile picture of the author snapper
        Hi Helen,

        How do you intend hosting your landing page?

        Also I believe with affiliate prophet you will need a domain name and hosting to implement the aff. spy campaign which allows you to direct link to another page . Affiliate prophet needs to be loaded onto your hosting server and as I understand it (very laymans terms) your links are directed through Affiliate Prophet that is located on your server.

        The 3 domains is not really a problem because you can direct all your clicks through Affilate Prophet that is located on that server. For example you can have Affiliate Prophet set up on your dogtraining dot com site but direct other domains on the same host through this site, such as snowskis dot com. In the bar at the bottom dogtraining dot com will briefly show up when a link on skowskis is clicked but for the untrained eye they will not realize what has happened.

        Your stats for snowskis will be recorded in the appropiate folder that you have set up on dogtraining. I probably have not explained it very well but AP set up on 3 domains is not really a problem.

        So I think you will need hosting if you are going to go with Affilate Prophet.

        You can redirect a domain name at some hosting providers but I don't know how 'black hat' that is and it is not something that I would try.

        You can always just direct link through adwords, kinda like what gcd shows you in the pre-launch videos but you wait in the queue for your ads to be shown if there are more than 1 advertiser direct linking to the same site as Goog will only show 1 ad per site at a time...supposedly.

        Originally Posted by helenback View Post

        I have been looking at gcd, but for now decided to buy affiliate prophit as recomended. the trouble is it looks really complicated. I know this is off topic but I want to do direct linking because I have just spent almost 2 months doing my first campaign of landing page and god knows how long working out this php code, found out my program dosnt support it.
        direct linking is the way I want to go. I got affiliate prophit because I thought it was the only way to do direct linking without google penalising you.
        I also read after I bought the program that you can only cloak 3 domains.
        also I know I need to have a domain name but do I still have to have a website ieven if I am direct linking, as I dont understand why I would need a server.
        please can some one explain to me in laymans terms,
        thankyou
        helen
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Deegan
    In regard to the url question, alot of people know/knew about it..but the majority did not know..There was a way that you could set a different url on the keyword level...so while you had the same url for your destination and display url when you created your actual ads..you could go in and edit the actual keyword information and give a different url for the keyword...It was a loophole in how goolge handled it's data.

    That's how Chris got around the double serving rule...he could still direct link but display his own url...I dont think this works any more...or will be killed very soon...Google talked about it recently...so unless you want to get into a bidding war on a direct linking campaign your going to be shit out of luck...

    This is why I'm not to big on the idea of having a shared data base that all users can see...and query. By using the wild card as he showed in the video you and everyone else will be able to pull up all direct linking data...bah..lol. that will be fun.

    I'll stick with the competition and spy data that only I have access to on my own computer...it takes more time and resources but is much more effective long term...
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOSteve
    Hi,

    GCD is a pretty awesome tool - but just a tool. Great for niche research and campaign planning - a way to see what is already working for someone and "copy the best" as they say. If this is an area you are struggling in then GCD is worth a look.

    A mate of mine is one of the beta testers and he is completely in love with Google Cash Detective. We are comparing it against Keyword Spy and the main benefits for GCD seem to be:
    * data is updated daily
    * The "slide show" feature that displays landing pages etc. for all ads for a keyword in a very sexy "flip book" style (very "iPhone" app style)

    My mate uses the "flip book" feature to help get a feel for the niche if it's not something he's familiar with - see what sort of bonuses people are offering too.

    The wildcard searching is killer (though you can do this in Keyword Spy too).

    So GCD is a tool that will help ensure you target profitable niches with proven keywords that convert. (Or at least keywords someone has been willing to consistently spend money on!). It will save you investing time and money "trying out" campaigns.

    I would certainly suggest pairing it up with a good conversion tracking tool like Xtreme Conversions or Affiliate Prophet. (There may be others - XC is my personal favorite!) This would help ensure you ditch any non-converting keywords.

    Hope this helps.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author MIB Mastermind
    Will this GCD be similar to keyword elite? Or is it better?
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  • Profile picture of the author baronig
    how much it will be sold?
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      That's how Chris got around the double serving rule...he could still direct link but display his own url...I dont think this works any more...or will be killed very soon...Google talked about it recently...so unless you want to get into a bidding war on a direct linking campaign your going to be shit out of luck...
      Yeah the video really downplays the No Direct Linking issue as a myth, by simply saying - see the 100's of others doing it? From the little I know and the little ive read about this - WTF if google shuts down your AdWords account for direct linking too often? You can only say Oooops Sorry Im a newbie so many times. Is this a real or non issue? After that ...

      Additionally, the "See ... this is a for sure winner - profitable campaign - see theyve had it running for 56 of 97 days" Its profitable because why? Chris says so? Some dude is still willing to chase $ on it? There was an insurance example in there for AIG Direct ... looky there a For Sure winner $1000 a day campaign - search volume and length of time an advertiser was willing to spend. $10 a click! BTW, AIG is in deep sheeeeite - not sure Id due an ad spend on pimping their products [ and Im in the biz and sell a ton o' their stuff {in the past} - cant give it away these days ]

      Chris has obviously spent plenty of time with Frank Kern

      Seems if you could get clear resolute answers to the two things above and Im sure there are far more ... youd have a damn good tool there.

      Would love to hear more thoughts from people in this game full time.

      I know JACK on PPC/CPA etc...
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      • Profile picture of the author baronig
        4morereferrals thanks for opening my eyes.I knew something was not right when I was watching the videos.the keywords he is saying is a hanging fruit profitable running 100/100 days and yet when I did Google search no one was advertising for that keyword ,fishy.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        I bought GoogleCashDetective - mainly on the strength of the pre-launch videos. Carpenter seemed to be a straight shooter (Even though he was recommended by Frank Kern).

        The launch was a nightmare. Couldn't log-in for two days. And then it just got worse. It's absolutely OUTRAGEOUS the way GCD are treating their clients. If you opt for the payment plan (like 67% of us according to Chris Carpenter) it ends up costing you AT LEAST $2600 over the year. So for that kind of money you would expect pretty good service. Not the case here. The so-called "Support" sucks. Tickets go unanswered for days and days and days. They are not even answering the comments on the vids (here's looking at you Jonathon Paul) - how hard can it be to get a drone to at least reply to comments??? There is no blog - just a webpage. No Forum - just excuses about how they are building the world's greatest one. And what's this with "server problems"? Why didn't they get hosted with Peer1 out of New York for instance - handles PlentyofFish dating site's huge load very well.
        As for "Contact" - very hard to find anyway - it's a broken link. Yes...the "Contact" is a broken link. Lesson One - make sure the Contact is easy to find and works.
        Meanwhile CC waffles on about wanting to "help people", "tight-knit community" and "build a long-term relationship" - all the rest of the B/S.

        And don't get me started with the tool and the Direct-Linking method. As others have pointed out here, unless you're in good standing with Adwords you're going to get burned. You're not going to get .05 clicks - Google are going to shaft you all the way. Sad for all the dreamers who think they can just throw $200 at an Adwords campaign and make a killing by "cloning other peoples successful campaigns" - straight out misrepresentation. I'd say 99.9% of GoogleCashDetective users are going to get burned. You don't learn this stuff overnight.

        I've been using the tool for days. It's nothing out of the box. It's fun but really just an expensive toy. You can't expect to just nick someone elses keywords and ads and suddenly be rolling in dough. There's much more to the equation than that.

        What else? The bonuses suck - it's stuff that's been floating around for years. Some of the videos are quite good - Jonathon Paul's stuff - but mostly its basic newbie info. The webinars are just plain annoying. What about some PDFs for those of us that still like to read? Other stuff promised isn't there. Just more promises. You go around and around the site looking for stuff that just isn't there.

        Carpenter says "you get a 30 day guarantee - if you're unhappy for any reason just email me and I'll refund your money". Yeah yeah. But where is the email addy huh? Where is the "Contact"? Where is the frigging "Support"? They are probably all out the back counting the money they've made (up to $900 in Affiliate Commissions) from suckers like me.

        Jonathon Paul, I'm sorry mate but your excuses are pissweak. It takes 2 minutes or less to log-in to your site and make sure that at least the "Contact" link is working and another 5-10 minutes to AT LEAST post a couple of comments rather than leaving us in the lurch. Your name's associated with this disaster. Think about that.

        As you can see, I'm ropeable about this. Does Chris Carpenter even care about his online reputation? FTC here I come. He'll be joining Frank Kern in the Sin Bin (Google "Frank Kern Conman" to read about his run-in with the FTC).

        Oh yeah...nearly forgot...today Chris Carpenter emails me to say how sorry he is for all the stuff-ups...yada yada yada and to make up for it he's giving me a week's accommodation in his surf-camp/yoga retreat. Yeah right. No - I jest - he's kindly offered a week free of billing. Whoopee-doo huh? NOT GOOD ENOUGH (as we say in Australia). The whole thing has left a very bad taste in my mouth. I knew there were bandits in Mexico but I didn't expect this.
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        • Profile picture of the author darksky
          Reading through this thread, I'm amazed by some of the whining.

          GCD is working. And it's working extremely well.

          I was able to log-in immediately on DAY 1. Then, yes, there WAS some down time, especially the first few days, but nothing I couldn't work around, and things have been flying (at least for me) since they added more servers. I'm talking lightning fast on my MAC, and I'm having zero problems accessing it now.

          I'm experienced with PPC ... and I've still learned some cool stuff from the training. In fact, Jonthan Paul's videos have been particularly good.

          Is it magic? No. If you run out and start using it without carefully going through the training, or without THINKING before you launch a campaign, you could easily lose money. If you do everything right - there's still risk you could lose on a given campaign, but it sure puts the odds in your favor (in my opinion).

          This - like any other tool - must be applied thoughtfully. That said, the intel it feeds you is quite eye-opening.

          I think Chris has done a phenomenal job, all things considered, and the initial bumps have really smoothed out. I have not used the support ticket system at all, however, so can't speak to that.

          I will say this: I'm very glad I bought GCD.
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      • Profile picture of the author WPExpert
        Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

        Would love to hear more thoughts from people in this game full time.
        I tried GCD for about 6 weeks and then gave up and got a refund. The software was buggy, the support very poor and the results were not what was promised (why am I surprised?). Chris is a great marketer though. He just needs to learn not to promise what he can't deliver and he'll keep more of the cash, and so will his affiliates.
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          I'm in the process of getting a refund (inc. all the upsells that were peddled).
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  • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
    Looking at the GCD videos, there appears to be a deficiency...if the database has collected all that data, then why not just create a report of the highest search volume keywords with consistently displayed affiliate direct link ads...and then work down from the top of the list constructing your direct link campaigns?

    If you don't care what you're an affiliate for, then this would be THE KEY search result - and one they can surely do at GCD...they have all the data - it appears on the screen - and it's just a quick report to write!

    But it doesn't appear to be built into the software! So while the customer is left guessing and browsing for the good opportunities - and with 2.5 million keywords that doesn't produce a huge competitive problem - but the vendor? Well they can go straight to the answers!

    So the punter pays for the development costs, and the vendor gets to cherry pick the opportunities! Nice!

    Even so, it looks like it would speed up niche research...dramatically!
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    The videos are cool.

    But I haven't heard one beta tester say they made money with it.

    I tested each campaign from his videos exactly as he laid them out.
    I'm not a rookie.

    Not one made money.

    Who cares that you can search campaigns in 5 minutes if it doesn't make money.
    Who cares that it's following millions of keywords if it doesn't make money.

    I want to hear dollars and cents from a beta tester.
    I don't want to hear the hype.
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I did the same as you and tested the reverse phone detective. So far I have had many clicks as he did but made $0. What the heck am I doing wrong?
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by vince8151 View Post

      The videos are cool.

      But I haven't heard one beta tester say they made money with it.

      I tested each campaign from his videos exactly as he laid them out.
      I'm not a rookie.

      Not one made money.

      Who cares that you can search campaigns in 5 minutes if it doesn't make money.
      Who cares that it's following millions of keywords if it doesn't make money.

      I want to hear dollars and cents from a beta tester.
      I don't want to hear the hype.

      Good point Vince. Chris said in his last email that the system would make money in 10 minutes, that "This technique works 100% of the time." and "I have a 100% success rate."

      Well then the beta testers should also have the same results...WHERE ARE THEY?

      I also love the videos and would seriously consider purchasing this product. But show me the money first.
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  • Profile picture of the author darksky
    It does sound very intriguing, but gotta agree:

    Let's here some earning stats from a couple of beta testers,
    instead of all the hype.

    I was about to move to PPC Bully... guess I'll wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Btw, I did what he said manually in the pre launch videos and I made money. I made around $215 with the reverse phone detective and only spend $65 on ppc. Manually guys in 3 days! Do you know how much I will be making if I had the software and could clone like 20 campaigns per week and would set a budget of $500 a day? That would be a nice and juicy 30 or 40K per month. I mean.. thats just awsome, hello? anybody there? I said awsome oke! Well, this train is going to leave so you better decide if you want to hop on.

    Impossible. No way could you gross $215 with an adspend of $65 on the keyword Reverse Phone Search in 3 days. Absolutely impossible.
    To get the ppc down that low you need a 4 page landing page and longer then 3 days. If you would have left out the 3 days, I might have believed you.

    Do you even know how much cash you need with a budget of $500 per day?

    Again, the software looks good, but you're not going to get anyone to buy with this crap.

    And anyone in the world can be an affiliate/partner with GCD.

    One more time. Any beta testers out there with results and no BS?
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  • Profile picture of the author ben565
    Originally Posted by jrise View Post

    Btw, I did what he said manually in the pre launch videos and I made money. I made around $215 with the reverse phone detective and only spend $65 on ppc. Manually guys in 3 days! Do you know how much I will be making if I had the software and could clone like 20 campaigns per week and would set a budget of $500 a day? That would be a nice and juicy 30 or 40K per month. I mean.. thats just awsome, hello? anybody there? I said awsome oke! Well, this train is going to leave so you better decide if you want to hop on.

    Peace

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    I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

      I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?
      Maybe you have to buy the system to find out? How much did you spend to get your clicks?
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      • Profile picture of the author ben565
        Originally Posted by mott View Post

        Maybe you have to buy the system to find out? How much did you spend to get your clicks?
        chris actually logs into the system and shows us how to set up a direct linking campaign with the rev detective niche and shows us his results after 84 clicks = 6 sales, I set up a the same campaign so that everything was the same as chris's campaign and yet after 84 clicks i had 1 sale?

        this system is supposed to be 100% profitable according to him,obviously it is not,

        btw i started at $1.50 per click and ended up at 0.39cpc.
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        • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
          Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

          chris actually logs into the system and shows us how to set up a direct linking campaign with the rev detective niche and shows us his results after 84 clicks = 6 sales, I set up a the same campaign so that everything was the same as chris's campaign and yet after 84 clicks i had 1 sale?

          this system is supposed to be 100% profitable according to him,obviously it is not,

          btw i started at $1.50 per click and ended up at 0.39cpc.
          Come on! How many people do you think are duplicating what Chris has done with Reverse Phone? Does anyone really expect to be profitable with it with everyone bidding on those terms.

          Tip: when you see a guru demoing a niche, do not waste your time on it. Instead, learn from him and use it elsewhere.
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          • Profile picture of the author cms418
            crudenbay,

            When you are getting as many or more clicks than he was why wouldn't you get the sales?
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              • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
                still I say to you.......... Dont Mess With Chris Or Frank And Their products. Neverr, because they just rule. Capiche?

                Peace Out!
                Or what ... you'll post a really MEAN face at me like this ?
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                • Profile picture of the author ayuwarr
                  We'll wait and see.
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              • Profile picture of the author ben565
                Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

                This is pretty simple, really:

                Sales are ALWAYS up and down! Chris's sales could've been a fluke, other people's could've been caught on a bad day.

                Time of day, time of week, month, season, etc. ALL play a part in sales. Chris, being an experienced marketer, would know this and obviously try to maximize his sales by hitting right when people are more likely to spend money. (And to demonstrate how well his system works)

                Also, you don't have any real statistical relevancy with so few clicks. But after 84 clicks and you DO make a sale...that is considered "standard" 1% conversion ratio with fresh traffic.

                But the fact is this...people are experiencing sales with this keyword, and their CPC is going down with those ad's. Seems like the GCD works pretty well.

                Rob
                You are missing the point. With this system you find a campaign that has been running for awhile,in this case chris found someone direct linking to reversephonedetective for 99/101 days, so chris identified this as a campaign that you will make money on,so chris set up a campaign and made 6 sales from 84 clicks,

                So i then replicated this campaign exactly,same ad,ctr,ad pos,keyword,i even tested it on the same day and yet i have had 1 sale from 152 clicks.

                So if the system works so well as you state then why did i not have a similar conversion rate to chris?

                According to him a campaign like this is guaranteed to make you money,100% of the time,i would not be making claims like this as it gives people an unrealistic expectation.
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                • Profile picture of the author evertd
                  Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

                  So i then replicated this campaign exactly,same ad,ctr,ad pos,keyword,i even tested it on the same day and yet i have had 1 sale from 152 clicks.

                  So if the system works so well as you state then why did i not have a similar conversion rate to chris?
                  In my humble opinion you got what GCD promises. You got your ad shown and you got clicks on it. Once it goes to the sales page, then it is up to the sales page to actually make the sales.

                  But, did you also consider the possibility that when people watched the video, they went to google and searched for those keywords featured in the video and saw your ad (which was exactly as the one in the video), and at least some of the clicks you got were from the people that watched the video after you? So I'd guess in some way you were the unfortunate victim of the success of the videos.

                  That's one of the problems with keyword and market research these days, it's impossible to tell how much the results are being skewed by other people doing the same research.
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                  • Profile picture of the author baronig
                    thanks this post is eye opener.I wish more people would have know about this post before buying GC.

                    i did post this link on his blog and guess what? it was never posted
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                    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
                      Originally Posted by baronig View Post

                      thanks this post is eye opener.I wish more people would have know about this post before buying GC.

                      i did post this link on his blog and guess what? it was never posted
                      The software isnt for sale yet? Launches 3/10/09 ???
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                  • Profile picture of the author ben565
                    Originally Posted by evertd View Post

                    In my humble opinion you got what GCD promises. You got your ad shown and you got clicks on it. Once it goes to the sales page, then it is up to the sales page to actually make the sales.
                    Actually GCD promises how to find a successful campaign in under 10 mins.
                    Gcd promises that if an ad is running 99/100 days then you will make money if you copy it,which i did and i lost money on it.

                    So getting your ad shown and getting clicks on it is not was GCD promises,anyone can slap up an ad and get clicks on it.
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            • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
              Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

              crudenbay,

              When you are getting as many or more clicks than he was why wouldn't you get the sales?
              CCMusicman's post (the one after yours) summed it up really well, so I'm not going to repeat it.

              Main point is this....do not go after the big niches with GCD. Everyone who signs up will - so go elsewhere. Come back when things die down a bit.
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            • Profile picture of the author MajorK
              Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

              crudenbay,

              When you are getting as many or more clicks than he was why wouldn't you get the sales?
              Did you do exact match on the keywords? He did. That makes or can make a huge differance. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author pcalvert
      Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

      I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?
      Because of the small sample size, the results are statistically meaningless. In other words, the results shown don't actually prove that the software works, they only give the appearance that it works. It's kind of like someone promoting a stock trading system by showing you a chart of one stock that the system made a killing on during one time period. It may look impressive, but it doesn't tell you anything about how the system will perform over the long haul.

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    • Profile picture of the author thatmartin
      Originally Posted by ben565 View Post

      I set up the same campaign in the rev phone niche with the same keyword,ctr,ad position and direct linked and after 152 clicks i have had only 1 sale and yet chris was converting at 1:15, how come such a huge difference as i was duplicating his campaign exactly?
      I really hate to call someone a scammer but...
      When you look at the video again, you will see in his AdWords account that his target URLs pointing directly to CB contain something like "tid=123" but the CB report shows different (meaningful) tid's.
      This means the sales he presented in the video were generated by a different campaign/adgroup.
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      • Profile picture of the author John34
        Originally Posted by thatmartin View Post

        I really hate to call someone a scammer but...
        When you look at the video again, you will see in his AdWords account that his target URLs pointing directly to CB contain something like "tid=123" but the CB report shows different (meaningful) tid's.
        This means the sales he presented in the video were generated by a different campaign/adgroup.
        This is interesting point and i noticed it just now.
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        • Profile picture of the author Food Guru
          Re from JHollar "I am curious about one thing - how is Chris doing a direct linking to reversephonedetective.com using some other domain?

          Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

          Does that still work with google?"

          The reverse phone affiliate site gives you your own landing page so you can have your own domain without masking
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      • Profile picture of the author ChrisG
        Originally Posted by thatmartin View Post

        I really hate to call someone a scammer but...
        When you look at the video again, you will see in his AdWords account that his target URLs pointing directly to CB contain something like "tid=123" but the CB report shows different (meaningful) tid's.
        This means the sales he presented in the video were generated by a different campaign/adgroup.
        Originally Posted by John34 View Post

        This is interesting point and i noticed it just now.
        I'm surprised this didn't generate more comments, but after checking myself the adwords url actually ends with "?id=123" not "?tid=123", so the "123" you see does not refer to his clickbank tid. He should have been crucified if he did something like that...
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  • Profile picture of the author John7447
    With all these offers to get rich,print money.One could go broke buying them all. If I had a system that worked so well don't think I would be shearing, why are they.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rane
    Can somebody clarify the Major differences in GCD, Affiliate Elite, and Affiliate espionage? (If the answer is obvious go easy on me-everyone starts somewhere)

    Thanx!
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  • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
    At least 3 things are happening:

    1) Sample size blindness - a test of 84 clicks isn't enough to be statistically representativ of the performance of the test. So some people will get 1 conversion, some people will get 20 conversions.

    2) Selection bias - Chris may have shot several set-up videos and then presented the best result...he even mentions that techique when he starts looking at the 'learn guitar' niche (if I recall). It's still a true result, but it's not representative.

    3) It's a non-static test...as someone rightly pointed out, the measures he used to select his campaign are historical measures (from the last few months). Once new players enter the market, market forces will drive the bidding price up, and therefore the profitability down. Transparency (which Chris claims - correctly - that he is creating) drives efficiency into markets.

    So if you suddenly create 500 new players going after the same most promising niches from historical data, most will get their shorts eaten, as bid prices rise. The winners will be the ones who have a hidden advantage, such as a long-standing account with Google, a better way to bid for position, reach across other PPC providers, landing page generation/match to keywords, etc.

    And a campaign may be profitable one day, and loss making the next, based on statistical varibility...particularly when the numbers of visitors are small.

    And this is the nub of my concern, voiced earlier...the value of the competitive information they are peddling changes...rapidly...and there's a basic human tendency to want to 'game' the prospect list (a game theory called 'tragedy of the commons' if you want to look it up).

    What to do? Learn the basic lesson, and then 'zig while the others zag'.
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  • Profile picture of the author mott
    OK here is my take on this: Chris did an example where he made 6 sales from 84 clicks. Ben does the same example and gets 1 sale out of 152 clicks.

    Let's assume both Chris and Ben are telling the truth. So now what happened?

    Let's say 20 other people did the exact same example as Chris and Ben; wouldn't that saturate the ad so to speak, and make it less profitable? I guess my point is, if one ad is making money, duplicating that ad might still make money, and re-duplcating it may also, but by the time the 20th duplication comes along, the ad ceases to be a money maker.

    If the cpc went down to .39 in one day, I assume it can go lower over time, and Ben did make a sale. Perhaps over 500 clicks we can get a better reading of if this works (if Ben wants to spend the money).

    And one final thought; we are only seeing in the videos what Chris WANTS us to see. There may be other parts he isn't bringing up about GCD that can truly make money 100% of the time. Perhaps over 90 days Ben's ad WOULD make money (or picking less competitve ads than this one turned out to be).

    Just my 39 cents worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    Everyone bidding on the same keyword would affect bidding PPC prices, but not sales per click!

    If you're getting similar price and CTR, you should be getting sales. Otherwise why bother?

    I mean, we want to get sales, not traffic!

    We really need the beta testers feedback. I mean, if it work as advertised, GCD should be as close to an automatic money machine as you can get. So the testers should have a lot more $$$ right about now.
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  • Profile picture of the author mott
    Let me ask this: If an ad is being shown for 100 straight days, can we assume it is making money? And if I clone the ad, wouldn't I make money too (over 100 days)?
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  • Profile picture of the author JNFerree
    I was 'tempted' to cut `n paste the email I got from the boys running PPC Classroom, but I decide against it.

    Suffice to say, these guys know PPC as well as anyone on the planet (and) both Amit and Anik declare they are semi-addicted to the Detective.

    A recommendation coming from these guys makes this a no-brainer 4 me!

    Watching his 3rd Vid now - and yeah, Chris is one helluva marketer

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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    A recommendation coming from these guys makes this a no-brainer 4 me!
    The affiliate commission on this is $450 per order plus $25 per month.

    $450 per order! They will make more on this then their PPC Classroom!

    I heard that Warren Buffet has signed up to be an affiliate.


    I can spend up to a maximum of 1100 PER DAY!
    Anyone who makes claims about how much money they have are always full of it!


    Ask the guy himself if im a partner or affiliate.
    P.S. - Full disclosure - I am associated with the upcoming GCD launch.
    So which one is it?


    Beta testers have had this program for what, a month or two or three?


    And still, no beta tester results!
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Is the affiliate program only open to beta testers? How did you find the commision info? Is it going to be thru a network or private affiliate program?
    It's a private affiliate program.
    I found it searching around, I don't have the link handy but it's out there and anyone can become an affiliate.

    FULL DISCLOSURE: I am an affiliate. Hell, for 450 bucks I'll try and sell anything.

    I think it was offered to testers a while back. I'm not sure if they paid or not.
    The only thing I'm fairly certain of is the testers must have signed a non-disclosure statement because none of them are replying to this thread.

    Or, is it none of them have made any money using it?
    They have had it long enough to form an opinion.

    I would guess that all positive statements for the program are from affiliates or newbs sucked in by the videos.
    Again, 450 bucks per order. You won't find any Judas there!

    The guys with lists are drooling over this offer. They can't wait for March 10!
    All you have to do is get your list to watch the one video and if they have the $997 up front and the $25 per month, they will buy.

    I hope the product does work. I would buy but I need a little more then a few really cool videos and postings from drooling affiliates who really have no idea other then the really cool videos and newbs who remain positive because of all the money they have thrown around.
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by vince8151 View Post

      I would guess that all positive statements for the program are from affiliates or newbs sucked in by the videos.
      I fall into the sucked-in newb category. :p

      Obviously this will have a money-back guarantee, so it can be worth it to test it out. Also Chris Carpenter is well-known, so he won't skip town with our money.

      Perhaps beta testers are not using their own money on the system, but are just supposed to test the features for bugs (or can use their own money if they wish but are not allowed to disclose their results).

      I do think it is a good ploy to have all these videos for free, pretty much showing what GCD does; you can decide for yourself if you can make money with it
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      • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
        Originally Posted by mott View Post

        I fall into the sucked-in newb category. :p

        Obviously this will have a money-back guarantee, so it can be worth it to test it out. Also Chris Carpenter is well-known, so he won't skip town with our money.

        Perhaps beta testers are not using their own money on the system, but are just supposed to test the features for bugs (or can use their own money if they wish but are not allowed to disclose their results).

        I do think it is a good ploy to have all these videos for free, pretty much showing what GCD does; you can decide for yourself if you can make money with it
        Don't know where you got that bit about "not using their own money".

        I'm a Beta user and ONLY spend my own money. And I can tell you I am not doing this to "find bugs", although they do surface now and then.

        I'm using it to make money for me and my clients.

        GCD is pretty rock solid, with a couple of minor glitches in the 6 weeks I've been using it.
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        • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
          Well .. hows the efficacy of this tool? Is it accomplishing your objectives, and could you accomplish them without it?

          How much do you need to be prepared to spend on PPC - cash on hand - to make this tool and the system to be revealed ... work?

          Originally Posted by crudenbay View Post

          Don't know where you got that bit about "not using their own money".

          I'm a Beta user and ONLY spend my own money. And I can tell you I am not doing this to "find bugs", although they do surface now and then.

          I'm using it to make money for me and my clients.


          GCD is pretty rock solid, with a couple of minor glitches in the 6 weeks I've been using it.
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        • Profile picture of the author vince8151
          Question for those that build test campaigns based on what you saw in the videos. Did you build a negative keyword list as part of your test?
          Keyword should have been placed in brackets [

          GCD is pretty rock solid, with a couple of minor glitches in the 6 weeks I've been using it.
          Finally, a tester has posted. Thanks!

          And a few more should also post. No matter positive or negative.

          crudenbay, the watchers of the cool videos could only copy the campaigns from the GCD's video and, as you have read, no success stories.

          Glitches aside, that's expected, I gather there are other things that the videos left out which prevented the people who copied the campaigns from turning a profit?

          I almost have a sneaking suspicion that not only do you need the GCD for x amount of dollars, but the real secret to really make money is da da da.

          Can you please explain further? And, your take on the failures mentioned.

          Your 2nd post got in while I was writing this. Never mind.

          Need a few more testers to post.
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        • Profile picture of the author mott
          Originally Posted by crudenbay View Post

          Don't know where you got that bit about "not using their own money".

          I'm a Beta user and ONLY spend my own money. And I can tell you I am not doing this to "find bugs", although they do surface now and then.

          I'm using it to make money for me and my clients.

          GCD is pretty rock solid, with a couple of minor glitches in the 6 weeks I've been using it.
          Excuse me, Crudenbay, but I didn't mean to imply that you were spending someone else's money. What I meant was, that perhaps testers were not spending money in the testing of the product. I hope you realize that.

          Also quite frankly, if you are a beta tester and are using the software primarily to make money, and apparently not to find problems, then you should not be testing the product. The function of a beta tester is to find any problems with the software that developers can't find, such as data loss, crashes, slowness of processing, etc.

          Though I'm happy to hear the product is making money for you, I can't believe that was what Chris had in mind when he made you a tester. Just my opinion.
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          • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
            Well Mott, that would be a typical Beta you describe, where everyone thrashes on the product to find bugs...but this was different.

            Instead we were asked to use it to see if we could be successful with it...

            And BTW, this was rock solid from day one of "beta testing." I saw very few reports of bugs within the forums. I've been running it for several weeks and only seen the odd glitch which they fix very quickly.

            This product is ready for prime time.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
              Originally Posted by crudenbay View Post

              Well Mott, that would be a typical Beta you describe, where everyone thrashes on the product to find bugs...but this was different.

              Instead we were asked to use it to see if we could be successful with it...

              And BTW, this was rock solid from day one of "beta testing." I saw very few reports of bugs within the forums. I've been running it for several weeks and only seen the odd glitch which they fix very quickly.

              This product is ready for prime time.
              Ok.... SO WERE YOU SUCCESSFUL WITH IT?!????

              The videos are impressive, the beta testers say "it works great", yet no one has said

              "YES. I have made X amount of dollars in profit"

              Would be really nice to get some proof.
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  • Profile picture of the author Leon McKee
    Question for those that build test campaigns based on what you saw in the videos. Did you build a negative keyword list as part of your test?

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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Ok.... SO WERE YOU SUCCESSFUL WITH IT?!????

    The videos are impressive, the beta testers say "it works great", yet no one has said

    "YES. I have made X amount of dollars in profit"

    Would be really nice to get some proof.
    Steve,

    I'm not sure if we'll ever find this out from anyone other then ourselves after we buy it. I tell you what, sign up as an affiliate and I'll buy it from you if you buy it from me. It will save us $450 each. I wonder what the pay out threshold is? I bet it's $500. Never mind.

    I had a discussion with another beta tester on another forum a few days ago resulting in the same skirting of the issue. It was like asking McCain and Obama direct questions during one of the debates. I found out everything I didn't really want to know.

    Who GAF about glitches and who GAF that it's ready for prime time and who GAF about collecting data and who GAF about who made it.

    Does the SOB make money or what.

    The election is over, now is the time for real answers.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      can we get an amen? Preach it brother!

      Originally Posted by vince8151 View Post

      Steve,

      I'm not sure if we'll ever find this out from anyone other then ourselves after we buy it. I tell you what, sign up as an affiliate and I'll buy it from you if you buy it from me. It will save us $450 each. I wonder what the pay out threshold is? I bet it's $500. Never mind.

      I had a discussion with another beta tester on another forum a few days ago resulting in the same skirting of the issue. It was like asking McCain and Obama direct questions during one of the debates. I found out everything I didn't really want to know.

      Who GAF about glitches and who GAF that it's ready for prime time and who GAF about collecting data and who GAF about who made it.

      Does the SOB make money or what.

      The election is over, now is the time for real answers.
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  • Profile picture of the author summit199
    Hey,

    just a thought, but perhaps the reason there are no beta testers on here is because they are to busy picking that "low hanging Fruit" that may be a little harder to harvest once the rest of us get our greedy little hands on the GCD2...
    I can't wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    I just watched the videos and I am really not sure how up to date the database is?

    One of the examples that Chris talks about is the keyword 'wal' which gets like millions of searches a month and has a profitable affiliate running an ad for walmart.

    I just checked in google and there's no sign of any ad....so, he's probably been google slapped for some reason!!!

    That's the problem with these spy tools - they are always a few weeks/months behind in terms of capturing and displaying data...
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    I'm using it and so far it seems like a great product. I still have the same problem however, I spend more on adwords then I make. Even with the tool, you have to know how to create profitable adwords campaigns.

    I do like the fact that you don't have to wait to see the history of keywords...they are already in the system so no waiting.

    I just found this on another thread about GCD.
    Kind of a boring thread, not cool like this one.


    Hey new kids on the block, read the above quote.

    I guess if I just spent $1100 I would still say it's a great product too.
    And another 99 bucks will be due soon.
    Even with a great tool, you still have to know what the hell you are doing.
    And you still have to have the cash to keep up with Mr. Google's invoices while you are losing.

    Nothing is easy!
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    You can't run a PPC campaign for Wal-Mart
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    "low hanging Fruit"
    C'mon. Don't fall for the hype.
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  • Profile picture of the author hatdance
    I saw the videos and it looks real promising. I would like to know if any beta testers were beginners and if they made any money. What is the learning curve from start to cash?
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    In my humble opinion you got what GCD promises. You got your ad shown and you got clicks on it.
    That's one hell of an expensive promise!
    I hope he took you out to dinner too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Mount
    I've been thinking about this software through out the last day or two.

    Seems to me that either:

    1. It's too good to be true

    or

    2. You simply CANT go wrong. I mean, if you really do straight COPY the ad and landing page off of a campaign that's been running rock solid for 90-100 days straight... then wouldn't you be 99% sure that you WILL eventually profit from that ad?

    I'm thinking that it's just too early to tell at this point. Copying the campaigns in the video is pretty foolish if you ask me. You KNOW that probably 100 other people are doing the same thing.

    Once we all get our hands on the software, and start looking at cloning successful ads outside of the IM niche, then I guess we'll find out if this software actually delivers the goods.

    I'm really hoping that this software is as good as it looks.
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by Steve Mount View Post

      I've been thinking about this software through out the last day or two.

      Seems to me that either:

      1. It's too good to be true

      or

      2. You simply CANT go wrong. I mean, if you really do straight COPY the ad and landing page off of a campaign that's been running rock solid for 90-100 days straight... then wouldn't you be 99% sure that you WILL eventually profit from that ad?

      I'm thinking that it's just too early to tell at this point. Copying the campaigns in the video is pretty foolish if you ask me. You KNOW that probably 100 other people are doing the same thing.

      Once we all get our hands on the software, and start looking at cloning successful ads outside of the IM niche, then I guess we'll find out if this software actually delivers the goods.

      I'm really hoping that this software is as good as it looks.
      Yeah Steve, that's what I said earlier (though you said it better)...if person A is successful at something, and you do EXACTLY what person A does, then you will be successful! Sounds logical to me.

      But of course if 100 others also copy person A, then there is the problem with too much competition. Then you might not be as successful, since we are competing with each other and there is just so much one can win.

      So if GCD is actually doing what it says it's doing, then I don't see a problem; the trick is to copy something no one else has copied.
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  • Profile picture of the author artsub
    Other mentioned options are much better that Google Cash Detective
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  • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
    OK, while this discussion has been going on, I've been doing some research and thinking...perhaps I can share what I've thought and found so far, putting aside the marketing hype? I know no-one is going to thank me for this (rather long) post, but I hope some people find it useful. Here goes: The GCD people are making a few claims, including:

    1)They have a database of a few month's data about the presence & absence of PPC ads on Google Search engine sponsored results. This includes ad creative, links, keywords and landing pages for approx 2.5 million keyword phrases.

    2)They have built a system that allows you to query their database to profile on the basis of keyword, link structure, and ads.

    3)They have built human interfaces that let you inspect variations in ad creative for an identified affiliate.

    4)They have built human interfaces that allow you to quickly browse through landing pages from ad links.

    These are all shown by the videos, and are directly testable. Furthermore they claim:

    5)Their system is robust enough for wide-scale use.

    6)The system is an efficient mechanism for keyword research for PPC-based affiliate marketing (this has two components, usability and data accuracy).

    We appear to have a beta tester on record who has supported those claims. Now we're on some more wooly ground...they make these further claims:

    7)If an affiliate ad persists in a high ranking spot for a keyword phrase over an extended time then it is currently profitable for the promoter of an affiliate product.

    8)If it's profitable for the promoter then it will be profitable for you as an incremental promoter of the affiliate product.

    9)It is currently possible to make substantial profits by direct-linking from the ad to the affiliate page, using an affiliate link.

    These are hard to validate without doing a large scale test; they are safe things to claim, because the test environment isn't stationary; the impact of the test will change it.

    Claim 7) refers to identifying a symptom of a profitable campaign; all diagnoses are subject to the problem of false positives...so it is possible to identify the symptom and mis-diagnose the underlying cause. The same symptom could indicate, for example:

    An affiliate marketer who has taken their eye of the ball (perhaps because their overall portfolio is doing quite all right thank-you-very-much, or their measurements aren't up to the job) or is behaving irrationally.

    An affiliate marketer who uses a big sample size before making a go/no go decision about a campaign.

    A campaign that used to be successful, and is being given a chance to return to profitability. The problem here is that you don't know in advance when that might be, in the same way that a forex trader doesn't!

    A vendor masquerading as an affiliate (to boost their ratings). The economics of this approach are different than for a regular affiliate.

    Advertiser whose cost of advertising is lower than yours (a long term account holder, and/or a big spender, or a JV arrangement with Google for some other reason) or with a special revenue sharing arrangement.

    A remnant campaign from a product launch that has ended.

    A campaign whose timing is precise, but happens to coincide with the times the data is sampled.

    A campaign that is working on a specific geography that you are unaware of.

    A campaign for which the landing page content is crucial for improving the conversion rates.

    Experimenter error - that is, it's successful, but your test provided results that were incorrect, perhaps on the basis of your sample size, or something else.

    Claim 8) is also problematic. Buying into a keyword campaign involves you in a market, and as we've seen from the financial world, markets are chaotic - sometimes they masquerade as being tame, other times they turn savage. On this basis, an incremental advertiser could drive prices way up; I'm sure Google has modelled it, but they're probably not sharing the results with us - Google has got an amazing portfolio play with Adwords / Adsense, and we're the ones taking the commercial risks!

    Also, it is feasible that an incremental advertiser could change conversion rates! Certainly, if I detect a feeding frenzy (lots of Adwords pointing to the same place, lots of Adwords making hypey claims), then my guard is raised when I get to the landing page. I'm also spoiled for choice, and I might start exploring...reviewing the review sites, seeing if I can find the vendor themselves, direct.

    Claim 9) is valid if Google hasn't prevented it! Logically, there will always be some opportunities where direct linking works. There will also be campaigns where it doesn't...and that depends on the efficiency of the landing page.

    So now on to the results of my research:

    GCD will speed up your ability to find niches where profits can be made, and structure campaigns to capture the profit compared to a tool that requires you to identify the keywords first, then capture information about competition.

    As such, it will significantly reduce your time-to-market for an affiliate campaign. And there is real value in that! (Claim 6) If you are a newbie to the area of PPC, GCD may save you weeks of research and trial and error.

    My concern is that the same information you have will be available to a large group of other people, who may distort the markets...and the launch process being used by GCD may exacerbate this issue. I expect this effect won't be large, and won't be long, and it can be side-stepped by avoiding aggressive sorting of the data - choose a niche idea first, rather than sort the whole of Clickbank's URLs for the most consistent, highest volume advertiser!

    Also, you'll need additional tools if you want to run enough of a portfolio to get a consistent income - and I don't know yet whether these are included in the Google Cash Automator - maybe someone else here does? You'll want to be able to track the profitability of your campaigns by keyword; you may want a bid management tool once your spend makes it worthwhile; you may also want to manage domain names and potentially you'll want to propagate keyword targeted landing pages, link cloaking. And if you do landing pages, then you need to think through content and copy, and where you acquire that from...

    You'll also need to be wary of over-trading, as the costs and profits come out of different accounts.
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Originally Posted by pgreenwo View Post

      I know no-one is going to thank me for this (rather long) post, but I hope some people find it useful.

      Thank you pgreenwo!!!

      Actually this is a well thought-out post, you put a lot of thought into it and raised some great points. I guess there is more to this than assuming a campaign that ran for 100 days has been successful and should be jumped on. Perhaps this system has cross-checking to see that the campaign is actually a money-making one, and doesn't fall into the categories you mentioned (or one can do other research to determine that).

      So really thanks for the great post.
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    • Profile picture of the author AlexKaplo
      Originally Posted by pgreenwo View Post

      A campaign that is working on a specific geography that you are unaware of.
      Wow, good point! How are we supposed to know if a specific campaign is profitable if the advertiser is only advertising it in a specific country...

      ...After hearing Chris's teleseminar I recall him saying that the GCD does not detect countries outside of the USA!

      This is something that was to be brought up and that we have to be aware of... the only thing I can think about to try to solve is take a sample off the information that GCD gives you and I guess take a risk from there and try to promote it in the countries you think the campaign will be profitable in.

      Best Regards,

      Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Thanks for everyone bringing up good food for thought. I guess in the end it is a question of whether you see value in it and believe that it will pay back your investment. At $997 up front it is pretty steep, but the $97 per month after that is probably pretty good value IF you actually use the research it provides.

    And if you just want to make money out of the inevitable feeding frenzy to commence on Monday, check out the JV page: GC Detective JV Partner Blog
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    if person A is successful at something, and you do EXACTLY what person A does, then you will be successful! Sounds logical to me.
    Unfortunately this is far from what really happens in IM.
    I'll go out on the limb and say it's about 95% impossible to copy a method exactly and be successful.

    Mott, if I sat you down right next to me and you watched what I did all day, (multiple PPC campaigns going for the singles, not the home run), and if you listened to me explain what I was doing without falling asleep, and then you went home and tried it yourself, you would FAIL.

    What I do has evolved from trial and error over an embarrassing long time to what it is today and will almost with certainty change again tomorrow. No way could you copy this or any other method out there, I don't care who's method it is and I don't care how they guarantee it or all the swell bonuses,(boneruses), they give you.

    It's an easy sale for someone selling the plan,method,program,software etc.. do what I do and prosper.

    Truth of the matter it just doesn't work for the buyer because most buyers won't put in the time to learn the method, then adapt it to their own style. And that's the key point and is precisely why most,(95%) of the people fail at this business.

    If everyone could copy and be successful, there would be about 100 zillion million richer then shit Internet Marketers out there living in Mexico making cool videos.
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    • Profile picture of the author mott
      Vince, that isn't quite what I meant.

      I will make a bold statement right now. If you put your "system" on paper where you make X dollars a year, and you left NOTHING out, and you give me FEEDBACK when I make mistakes, then I GUARANTEE you that I would make what you make in a year, if I stuck with the system long enough. There is no way I can fail.

      You are right...the reason there aren't a zillion marketers making a fortune is because they don't try hard enough, they don't stay with it, they are afraid to make mistakes, or don't learn from the ones they make, or they aren't given everything they need to know, and are too lazy to look for the missing pieces. They don't make the X overnight so they quit. They start out, do it for a week, and then abandon it and try the new flavor in town.

      It's like dieting. Here is another bold statement: ALL DIETS WORK! They all help you lose weight. The problem is, people don't lose the 100 pounds in a day, and so they quit. Or they lose it and then don't follow through on how to keep the weight off, and so they gain it back again.

      If you were a successful carpenter, and I studied under you and did everything you did, over time I would be a successful carpenter. Same with dancing, skiing, and internet marketing. No not in one day, and not if I don't have the desire and am unwilling to stay with it after I fall on my face.

      As for GCD, what I was saying was, if you duplicated successful ads you'll have successful ads too. I'm not saying Chris' product will make everyone who uses it a millionaire. But I do say that if Chris' product shows successful ads, and you duplicate the efforts, then you'll have successful ads.

      I bake a great tasting cake, and you follow my recipe to the max, you'll have a great tasting cake too (maybe not at first try, but eventually if you stick with it).
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      • Profile picture of the author wizzie
        come on... just give me the order link
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  • Profile picture of the author gohrayson
    I'm not sure anyone has announced this but Google Cash Detective has 2 payment plans... it was mentioned in the blog posted earlier... but here goes anyway.

    Apparently You Pay US$997 Upfront with $97 dollars monthly subscription

    OR

    US$1997 (inclusive of 12 months of GCD & GCA )

    One big price tag on this one~

    O.o

    Peace~
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    • Profile picture of the author baronig
      It always amazes me if this tool is so profitable why reveal it to the public?why not Chris does not keep it to himself?
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      • Profile picture of the author schnisz
        Do the math. $1000 plus $97.00/month for how many thousands on his list? Granted he will split with affiliates, but thats money! In theory the software looks pretty awesome. Very much out of my price range though. I hope somebody comes up with a less expensive option. I understand PPC fairly well, I'm a member of PPC classroom, however I am gunshy about spending 80 bucks a day to "test" a campaign espcially when the stats quoted to me are 9 out of 10 campaigns fail.
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        • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
          Originally Posted by schnisz View Post

          Do the math. $1000 plus $97.00/month for how many thousands on his list? Granted he will split with affiliates, but thats money! In theory the software looks pretty awesome. Very much out of my price range though. I hope somebody comes up with a less expensive option. I understand PPC fairly well, I'm a member of PPC classroom, however I am gunshy about spending 80 bucks a day to "test" a campaign espcially when the stats quoted to me are 9 out of 10 campaigns fail.
          There are less expensive options - you can build your own database with a tool costing <$30!

          Review this thread to discover them named on page 1. You just have to do a bit more work, and waiting...
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      • Profile picture of the author gohrayson
        Originally Posted by baronig View Post

        It always amazes me if this tool is so profitable why reveal it to the public?why not Chris does not keep it to himself?
        One of the reason why he's selling it to the public is because presumably that he's SPENT over $350'000 in this software. How many campaigns or how long must he spent to get back the money?

        6 months?

        4 months?

        By selling to the public, he would have get perhaps half or even the whole cost of production back and he'll still be able to use the software himself, or he could just sit back and earn the $97 monthly fee.

        100 people buys package with monthly fee = $9700 / MONTH.

        So why not? I would
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    I bought this product when it was offered to 30 people as a pre-launch type of thing. I don't recall if it was an offer for beta testers specifically or not. At any rate I paid $197 up front with a monthly of $97. At that time they were saying that the eventual price would be $497 at launch. I guess they re-evaluated the pricing if it's going to be released at $997.

    I remember another product that created the same sort of buzz about a year and a half ago or so. I don't recall the name for sure. Undercover Profits maybe? That software pretty much delivered the same information that GCD does except you had to identify your keywords/ads and then track them to gather the data. So if you wanted to see how frequently an ad was running you needed to track it over time to find out. The big difference here is that this information is already available to you as they have been tracking 2.5 million keywords since about October (I think they said).

    To me the weakness with this software is that you are relying mainly on one thing to determine profitability, and that is the amount of time the ad has consistently ran on the adwords network. That alone is not enough to make a decision as to whether the ad is profitable or not.

    -Is the advertiser building a list and using an autoresponder to increase his conversions?
    -Does he have a backend product of his own that he is also selling to the list?
    -What is his quality score/ cost per click?
    -Is he stuffing cookies?

    And those are just a few.

    You cannot get the whole picture by simply looking at the amount of days that he has consistently ran a certain ad. The software can show you a large part of the picture but not all of it. There is still a lot of research that has to be done if you want to eliminate as much risk as possible. That can be very time consuming if you are analyzing several campaigns. Not really what I want to be doing myself, but to each his own.

    Some of the campaigns I ran lost money and some of them made money. I had three campaigns slapped because I was direct linking. I then tried redirecting and had a couple campaigns outright shut down for doing that.

    So I am convinced the only way to approach it is to register your own domain for each product you want to promote, do a little preselling on a landing page (which includes an optin of course), and then provide your affiliate link to your visitor to proceed with the purchase. This was no revelation though as that is the only way I have been willing to run adwords for affiliate marketing anyway. In my opinion if you are spending the money on the ads and not building a list from it, then you are not making effective use of your money.

    This is a very slick software and it works just like you see in the videos. However it is not the magic button that will provide you with fail proof campaigns as represented in the sales hype. You can certainly use the software to help you identify campaigns that appear profitable on the surface, but you had better be willing to follow through and find out as much about that campaign as you can before moving forward with it. Everything is not always as it appears on the surface!
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Everything is not always as it appears on the surface!
    Excellent review Don.
    Just what this thread needed.
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I totally agree with Mott.

      GCD can be a very useful tool. Test each campaign that "apperars to be successful" for at least a week and if it is smooth and proves to be profitable keep it running. If not pack up and move to the next one. As long as you are continually involved in marketing and testing different products and niches, you WILL stumble upon products and services that convert. Trust me I have been in this game long enough now to realize that.

      Any one else in this game should agree. I would also attest that most would agree when we say that marketing in this way will cost you money and you better be prepared to shell out.

      Those who are in to get rich quick should take a step back and think about what they are getting into.

      Also for some people: please stop making claims about the price when you have no idea what it will cost.
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      • Profile picture of the author gohrayson
        Originally Posted by cms418 View Post


        Also for some people: please stop making claims about the price when you have no idea what it will cost.
        The price has already been confirmed.

        It's $997 with $97 monthly subscription or $1997 for the software inclusive 12 months subscription of GCD & GCA...

        I know what GCD means but no idea of GCA.

        Commissions are $450 upfront and $25 monthly

        AND

        upfront $900 PER SALE.

        No wonder Mike Filsaime has already promoting his product.
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        • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
          Originally Posted by gohrayson View Post

          I know what GCD means but no idea of GCA.
          GCA = Google Cash Automator -- which is basically the tool to automatically load the keywords and ads in to your Google Adwords account.

          Not sure if he's going to sell them separately but on the videos at the top of the page it shows two tabs, one for GCD and one for GCA. He shows a brief demo of GCA in video 4 "Making Money as FAST as possible!"

          From a marketing perspective, maybe he thinks that if he presents them as 2 separate products then it appears he is giving a great deal by selling them together.. though I really can't imagine how he expects the average beginner in this economy to put up $1,000 (or "$997") and then $100 (or "$97") every month. On the other hand, there is the other option of paying $2,000 (or "$1,997") upfront. Maybe that is one of the downsides to living in a remote place like on the coast of Mexico... it causes you to be out of touch with reality.

          In order to rationalize all of this I'm expecting he'll give the first month free with the deposit of the $997 along with a x-day money back guarantee. Then the sales letter or video will proceed to tell you how easy it will be for you to make that $997 back in no time along with the rest of the years monthly costs so don't panic.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    am really surprised that the numbers in GCD seem to be way off. One of the videos talked about a keyword "refund tax" which is supposed to have 550K searches a month.

    Google's keyword tool only shows 90K searches for the broad match and just 880 searches for exact match.

    Even if google is a bit off, there's still a massive discrepancy between both numbers.

    Once could be mislead by GCD into assuming that this is a hugely profitable keyword and then spend time and money only to discover that the traffic is nowhere near what GCD painted it to be...
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    • Profile picture of the author pgreenwo
      Originally Posted by jhollar View Post

      am really surprised that the numbers in GCD seem to be way off. One of the videos talked about a keyword "refund tax" which is supposed to have 550K searches a month.

      Google's keyword tool only shows 90K searches for the broad match and just 880 searches for exact match.

      Even if google is a bit off, there's still a massive discrepancy between both numbers.

      Once could be mislead by GCD into assuming that this is a hugely profitable keyword and then spend time and money only to discover that the traffic is nowhere near what GCD painted it to be...
      This is a very seasonal keyword. Check Google Trends...Google Trends: refund tax

      Big launch campaigns take a lot of work to get together, so the video may have been shot a while back...
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      • Profile picture of the author cms418
        I would like to know where this information on price is posted? On Chris Carpenter's site it says people are expecting this to be thousands of dollars, which it won't.
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        • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
          Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

          I would like to know where this information on price is posted? On Chris Carpenter's site it says people are expecting this to be thousands of dollars, which it won't.
          Well then advise us as to how you know it WONT be that much?

          I suspected that the pricing being quoted in this thread had to be leaked from the potential JV partners, or those that know them.

          If you want somebody to JV your product to their list you'd better be promoting before the launch date of 3/10/09 - right? Surely the info exists - just because Chris' site isnt broadcasting it to you Pre Launch - which would wouldnt make much sense to do so ... doesnt mean people here on the warrior forum are NOT in the know.

          If you've got facts and knowledge that the product wont be 1997.00 a copy - please be sure to advise us what it really will be and how you came across this credible info.

          thank you.
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        • Profile picture of the author AffiliateMax
          Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

          I would like to know where this information on price is posted? On Chris Carpenter's site it says people are expecting this to be thousands of dollars, which it won't.
          Pricing was posted on the affiliate program /JV link posted by another poster (evertd) above:
          GC Detective JV Partner Blog

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        • Profile picture of the author evertd
          Originally Posted by cms418 View Post

          I would like to know where this information on price is posted? On Chris Carpenter's site it says people are expecting this to be thousands of dollars, which it won't.
          If you actually read the thread you'd see I posted the link to the JV Invitation page several posts ago. And on that page the whole pricing structure is laid out.

          As for the videos, they must have been made several weeks ago. I noticed in one of the videos he visits a clickbank product's pitch page, and if you look at the same page now it looks completely different.

          In the videos he also speaks about most of the campaigns having been tracked 90 - 100 days, or that type of timeframe. And they claim they've been collecting data since October. I know this is just conjecture, but 90 - 100 days would put you somewhere in early January.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    I am curious about one thing - how is Chris doing a direct linking to reversephonedetective.com using some other domain?

    Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

    Does that still work with google?
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    • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
      Originally Posted by jhollar View Post

      I am curious about one thing - how is Chris doing a direct linking to reversephonedetective.com using some other domain?

      Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

      Does that still work with google?
      That is exactly why if you are buying this with the intent of direct linking or redirecting, you are probably wasting your time. No they won't catch them all. Yes they will slap your wrist if they catch you. But why chase your tail like that? How many slaps on the wrist before they close your adwords account? I don't care to find out myself. Why not setup your landing pages on your own domain and be done with it?
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  • Profile picture of the author vince8151
    Since the display and destination URL have to be the same,is he doing a domain redirect?

    Does that still work with google?
    Google doesn't check each url all of the time or if they do, they let it go.

    I get caught every once in awhile on a re-direct.

    When they catch you they continue to watch that one adgroup, not the campaign.
    If I want to keep it going, I'll slap up a fast blogger and use it as a landing page.
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    • Profile picture of the author papeter
      Originally Posted by vince8151 View Post

      Google doesn't check each url all of the time or if they do, they let it go.

      I get caught every once in awhile on a re-direct.

      When they catch you they continue to watch that one adgroup, not the campaign.
      If I want to keep it going, I'll slap up a fast blogger and use it as a landing page.
      Vince when you say a 'fast blogger' do you mean something like wordpress.com ( not org.com) or blogger.com for landing a page?
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    We are hearing a lot in the states these days about how violent it is in Mexico, and how the drug lords are running rampant. There are reports of Mexican gangs kidnapping people of wealth etc. I don't how accurate any of these reports are, but where there is smoke, you'll usually find fire. Is it a good idea to be calling yourself an internet millionaire and disclosing your remote location in Mexico?

    Just something that came to mind as I watched Chris' super cool videos. Frank has nothing on this guy as far as the cool factor
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by DonDavis View Post

      We are hearing a lot in the states these days about how violent it is in Mexico, and how the drug lords are running rampant. There are reports of Mexican gangs kidnapping people of wealth etc. I don't how accurate any of these reports are, but where there is smoke, you'll usually find fire. Is it a good idea to be calling yourself an internet millionaire and disclosing your remote location in Mexico?

      Just something that came to mind as I watched Chris' super cool videos. Frank has nothing on this guy as far as the cool factor
      Mexico is a BIG place. I believe most of the violence would be around Mexico city and the central parts. Where Chris lives there is literally almost nothing other than some tourist traps a little north of there. My company had a business weekend near there a few months ago. It is very beautiful and I'm sure the Mexican authorities do everything they can to keep the tourists sheltered from the realities of Mexican life, tourism is a major part of their GDP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Es
    hey all - i'm fairly new to all of this, so excuse me if this is a dumb question. But how important is using any "spy" software for things like this? If you are doing affiliate promotions for product x and if you go to google and search for "product x" and then print out the search results and come back and do it 3 weeks later and look at who is still in those same positions for that term, don't you know obviously who is being successful?

    i've seen other tools that claim to show you bid prices but is there any way that a tool can actually have correct data for that? doesn't the bid price depend on factors like your adwords account history and your QS and other factors?

    so...if you're the top advertiser for "product x" and a bunch of newbies buy this product and start bidding after product x, wouldn't they start with much higher bid prices because they don't have the history established with Google? Doesn't Google reward successful advertisers?

    can anyone clear this up?

    p.s. and in these kinds of threads it's always odd to me when people can't cite clear and consistent numbers. If one person claims they had a $100 day or lets say even a $1000 day - it's a bit meaningless if that was their only successful day. Because if they made $100 on one day in 20 days for example they are really making less than $5 a day, right? and it's misleading for that person to make it sound like they're averaging $100 a day!

    so - i'll repeat the chorus - anyone out there having CONSISTENT success with this and can share the types of consistent average daily profit they are making?

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Shift
    Quote,`wouldn't they start with much higher bid prices because they don't have the history established with Google?'

    I'm neither for nor against GCD but listened to a teleseminar Mark Ling from affilorama dot com did with Chris Carpenter and in it Chris gives details about his bidding strategy.
    He explains how he initially starts with a higher bid than required and then gradually lowers it.
    If you're interested then listen to the call, it's freely available at the above mentioned site.

    I think any PPC marketer who isn't a newbie already knows that to simply copy someone's campaign isn't going to work in the long run.

    And it's pretty obvious (to me anyway) that just because an ad has been running for months doesn't mean it's converting very well.
    Some of the reasons for this have already been mentioned in this thread but I know personally that I do have some campaigns that don't convert very highly but I keep them because the CPC is very low (due to using my own strategies) and the clicks often convert into leads.

    2c.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jay Es
      Originally Posted by Shift View Post

      Quote,`wouldn't they start with much higher bid prices because they don't have the history established with Google?'

      I'm neither for nor against GCD but listened to a teleseminar Mark Ling from affilorama dot com did with Chris Carpenter and in it Chris gives details about his bidding strategy.
      He explains how he initially starts with a higher bid than required and then gradually lowers it.
      If you're interested then listen to the call, it's freely available at the above mentioned site.

      I think any PPC marketer who isn't a newbie already knows that to simply copy someone's campaign isn't going to work in the long run.

      And it's pretty obvious (to me anyway) that just because an ad has been running for months doesn't mean it's converting very well.
      Some of the reasons for this have already been mentioned in this thread but I know personally that I do have some campaigns that don't convert very highly but I keep them because the CPC is very low (due to using my own strategies) and the clicks often convert into leads.

      2c.
      yes, i did listen to that call and understood his approach to lowering bids. i get that part.

      but the question i was raising...my understanding is that there is a historical factor in bid pricing - is this correct? (e.g. if you see a guy in slot one you can't swoop in and bid what he's bidding and beat him out of spot #1 because he has built up a history which has given him a conversion rate. You are are starting at 0% for that campaign and have a long way to go to be on parity. And he's built up a history with google too. For you to overtake him, Google would have to make a greater profit which would mean that you would have to have both a high CTR rate and a high bid price, right??
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      • Profile picture of the author AffiliateMax
        Originally Posted by Jay Es View Post

        but the question i was raising...my understanding is that there is a historical factor in bid pricing - is this correct? (e.g. if you see a guy in slot one you can't swoop in and bid what he's bidding and beat him out of spot #1 because he has built up a history

        That is basically correct, yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Chris states that the #1 spot has a low ROI. He says you don't want to have the #1 spot because many people who click the #1 ad are not interested in really purchasing anything and this will therefore cause you to lose money.

    What's your thoughts on that?
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    • Profile picture of the author Shift
      Originally Posted by Yusuf View Post

      Chris states that the #1 spot has a low ROI. He says you don't want to have the #1 spot because many people who click the #1 ad are not interested in really purchasing anything and this will therefore cause you to lose money.
      What's your thoughts on that?
      The most important point is for you to test for yourself. Don't take Chris's or anyone else's word because if you test for yourself in a particular niche/market/product you may find that the #1 ad spot converts the best.

      2c.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shift
    I don't claim to be an expert but I'll answer my best.

    Quote,`For you to overtake him, Google would have to make a greater profit which would mean that you would have to have both a high CTR rate and a high bid price, right?'

    My understanding is that the higher your CTR is the lower your bid price, but you must also have a great QS. For example some of my landing pages have a QS of 9 and the clicks are very cheap.
    But the most important thing is that Google serves relevant ads to their users, and a high CTR helps to prove that your ad is relevant to the keyword the user is searching for.
    So I don't believe it's money driving the Google game but it's very important for Google to deliver the most relevant organic and paid results (besides we all know that they make a lot of money providing such a service).

    If your CTR is very poor (the consensus seems to be under 2%) then delete that ad and start again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Shift, great advice there is no real "one size fits all" strategy. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      Hi I think this is best spy software so far in the market. Yes lots of people will make money from it and yes 80% plus people will not make any money from it. BTW I am offering big bonus for GCD and you can get it from here Google Cash Detective

      Good Luck Guys!

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      • Profile picture of the author brand-all
        Originally Posted by Guru View Post

        Hi I think this is best spy software so far in the market. Yes lots of people will make money from it and yes 80% plus people will not make any money from it. BTW I am offering big bonus for GCD and you can get it from here Google Cash Detective

        Good Luck Guys!

        Admin - if this is against the forum law pls delete my link above
        Well, Yes it is actually against the rules "Bob" but I clicked on your link, and...
        Here's the deal. You provide (on your blog page) the following information and I will buy from your link. The information to supply is;
        Your full name and street address. Your land line and mobile phone numbers. Your real email address and a written guarantee that you will honor your promised bonus. This guarantee is to supplied via snail mail to a postal address that I will give to you once you have provided the above information.
        I will also require you to tell me exactly how you intent to fulfill the bonus.

        Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author Guru
          Originally Posted by brand-all View Post

          Well, Yes it is actually against the rules "Bob" but I clicked on your link, and...
          Here's the deal. You provide (on your blog page) the following information and I will buy from your link. The information to supply is;
          Your full name and street address. Your land line and mobile phone numbers. Your real email address and a written guarantee that you will honor your promised bonus. This guarantee is to supplied via snail mail to a postal address that I will give to you once you have provided the above information.
          I will also require you to tell me exactly how you intent to fulfill the bonus.

          Cheers
          Bill
          hey pm me for my details. I can see you are in australia so I can give you my mobile number so you can ring me. hey this is very simple GCD will provide a affiliate commission and one can pass that on..
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    I also wanted to know if we will have payment mode of paypal or only credit card?
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    • Profile picture of the author Blazer2007
      I purchased and am not impressed.

      It may work for some, and Wow others, but I am moving on to find a real time saving tool.

      Wish everyone the best.
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      • Profile picture of the author wealthwind
        Originally Posted by Blazer2007 View Post

        The user interface is clunky and not friendly. Does not have a mature feel to it and the stability has been totally worthless as I am not excited about paying $1,600+ to have a tool that is clunky and needing me to copy and paste info into notepad and more steps than I care to play with.
        I agree that you need to copy and paste keywords and it is very inconvenient
        and takes much more time then needed. I don't like it either!
        Also, I didn't get into training session on Friday - the system didn't accepted my login info for some reason...
        Hope they will fix these issues soon.
        But regarding stability - now it works, at least for me, without any problem.
        And slide show is a good feature as well. I like it - you can get feeling what
        is going there in seconds.

        Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author JayStarr
    I think GCD is a pretty good app but its wayyyy overpriced.

    I was invited on the beta phase at $197 upfront + $97 / mth.. and still I think it was not good value.. compared to similar progs out there.

    The 'best' feature about GCD is the wildcard search or URL tracking.. simply enter the URL and get all the KW they are bidding on.. I know KWS does this a little but its got a 30 day lagg..

    WILL GCD MAKE MONEY.

    for sure.. I agree with some of the other posters onhere about the reversephonedetective..

    I pulled in just uder $800 in 3 days.. so it does work..

    For those people who want proof.. mate.. cant be botherted.. I dont care if you beleive me or not as I am not trying to sell anything.. do your own testing etc.

    The most IMPORTANT factor in successful IM is 'Niche Selection' then KW selection.

    I would like to get GCD but its not a good deal at the price..

    However.. I would'nt mind doing a group buy with may be 4 or 5 people.. In a way a mastermind aliance where we all pay equally and get access to GCD.. If we want to share successful info with each other about campaigns thats optional.. but atleast we have access to the raw data from GCD.

    Let me know if anyones interested in doing a group purchase? As I saw from the beta tester login.. GCD uses simply a aMember front end or something similar so I do not believe we should have any problems using GCD as a team.

    so if this appeals to you let me know?
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    • Profile picture of the author dicksony
      Hi JayStar,

      I'm new to the forum can't PM yet, I like your suggestion about group buy can you PM me please for contact. I live in sydney as well

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  • I definitely agree that you can make a lot more money building a list and selling via backend and so on, but direct linking does have its advantages like:

    1. Great for beginners trying to learn PPC (adwords). They can get a feel for the game, then change their links.

    2. Great for "CPA Offers". It's proven that Adwords is the most profitable method with CPA offers or lead based programs.

    3. Great for niches you know little to nothing about. Rather than trying to write "fake reviews" of items you've never seen, or just trying to build a niche business in those kinds of niches, you can just promote items for that niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Sean
    I watch Chris's video and setup following his keywords showing a successful high traffic ads. The Ads got very little impression and zero clicks so far. Keywords need to cost $1 to $2 per click to show up on first page.
    So is GCD really giving real results?
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    • Profile picture of the author apa101
      Originally Posted by Nick Sean View Post

      I watch Chris's video and setup Reverse Phone Detective following his keywords showing a successful high traffic ads. The Ads got very little impression and zero clicks so far. Keywords need to cost $1 per click to show up on first page.
      So is GCD really giving real results?
      I would suggest you not to worry abt those high bids in the first place. Have a good budget before starting high traffic campaigns. Try bidding like $5-7/click & setting your daily budget initially to $20-25/day to get on 1-4 top positions. Don't worry, you wont be charged $5 but just like $1-2/click initially. You may pay high in the first place but will get nice CTR which is the way to go.. Then try reducing bids slowly. In 2-3 days, u can get 20-30 cents bids on those keywords IF you do it right.

      If you are new to game, I would suggest starting with low traffic and proven keywords. And not trying those competitive ones which every Tom & Dick would be trying!!

      GCD2 is goldmine for the ones who knows how to milk with it.

      Just yesterday night I discovered 3 campaigns which must be 2k/day AT LEAST. I say that from exp.

      In hurry, I started one of them with just 6 keywords.. Got up today morning & BAM@!!

      Had about $800 in sales with $287 adspend. Thts like $500+ profit/day..

      I wrote all this just to prove that it DOES works! BUT you should know how to use it the right way!

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author toptones
    Launch tomorrow. Still getting used to the software, but I really like what I see. Just completing Arbitrage Conspiracy and bought and using Google Shadow. These use a shotgun approach while GCD2 uses a laser. With all the competition out there with CPA offers and 'blasting' I think the laser option may be the way of the future. Don't get me wrong, blasting will still get results, but if you want to hone in on a favorite niche and check out what is selling well, GCD2 is the way to go IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    @jrise He's right Domain Forwarding and Masking is completely fine and you can easily get away with it. It's super easy & Go Daddy is the company to buy your domains through!

    With the coupon code: chill3

    you can get a domain for under $8

    I also recommend cranking out a landing page though for better CTR's and Relevancy! Google loves relevancy. And if you're into lowering your CPC then do this step and you will be rewarded. Not only in the Paid Search Engines but also in the Organic! ; )
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Agreed! Google Cash does work fantastically well! $287 spend and $800 profit is good for taking it live the night before! I'm sure you can increase your profits as your Optimize your Bids!
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    I wonder how this software can work for exact and phase match keywords? It only shows data based on broad match keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Hey apa101 how many times are you going to link in here?
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    No, cannot sign up thru your own link
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by toptones View Post

      No, cannot sign up thru your own link
      Care to share where you found that rule? I'm looking for a TOS on the JV blog, but don't see it.
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      • Profile picture of the author richfit
        Originally Posted by evertd View Post

        Care to share where you found that rule? I'm looking for a TOS on the JV blog, but don't see it.
        buying through your own link is illegal friend. Chris monitors who purchases and who he pays out. I would say find a Bonus that more valuable than the few dollars you'd get back.

        In most launches, there is a team of people who check those things out. Trust me, a lot of people try to do it to find out they can't. Just a word of warning. You might as well get as much Value!
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        • Profile picture of the author evertd
          Originally Posted by richfit View Post

          buying through your own link is illegal friend. Chris monitors who purchases and who he pays out. I would say find a Bonus that more valuable than the few dollars you'd get back.

          In most launches, there is a team of people who check those things out. Trust me, a lot of people try to do it to find out they can't. Just a word of warning. You might as well get as much Value!
          Ok, fair enough. I was just wondering since I didn't see it in the TOS on the JV Blog.

          So who is offering the best bonus?

          I like the PPC Classroom guys' bonus. A set of webinars about GCD, 25 researched niches and one of the guys is going to totally expose one of his own campaigns with landing page, keyword research, the whole thing.

          Which ones are you guys looking at?
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        • Profile picture of the author Eben
          Originally Posted by richfit View Post

          buying through your own link is illegal friend. Chris monitors who purchases and who he pays out. I would say find a Bonus that more valuable than the few dollars you'd get back.

          In most launches, there is a team of people who check those things out. Trust me, a lot of people try to do it to find out they can't. Just a word of warning. You might as well get as much Value!
          Well I can always use my girlfriend's info to purchase through my own aff link. $900 might seem like a few dollars to you, but for most of us it's a decent amount. Even if i were to get it with someone else's bonus, it would be from one of the big guys, and not from some random dude on WF offering coaching/cash back, whom i might never hear from again after the purchase.
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    Any ebook with the word Google in it is bound to be crap. Some steady research has pretty much given me better methods than the people who make these ebooks
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    • Profile picture of the author richfit
      Originally Posted by googlerankingexpert View Post

      Any ebook with the word Google in it is bound to be crap. Some steady research has pretty much given me better methods than the people who make these ebooks
      The software that Chris is selling today is by far crap. Why don't you test it out and see what you think before you just a book by it's cover...

      Just sayin...
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    It's not an ebook
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    joining link was live for some time
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingProInfo
    Two questions...

    1. Does anyone know if you can enter your own keywords into GCD, or can you only work with the words (all 2.5 mill of them) that are already in GCD?

    I understand that the Option 2 payment is $1,997 for the first year, but I'm unclear what the 2nd year costs? Is it another $997 + $97 per month, OR is it just the $97 per month for year 2?

    Cheers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
      Originally Posted by MarketingProInfo View Post

      Two questions...

      1. Does anyone know if you can enter your own keywords into GCD, or can you only work with the words (all 2.5 mill of them) that are already in GCD?

      I understand that the Option 2 payment is $1,997 for the first year, but I'm unclear what the 2nd year costs? Is it another $997 + $97 per month, OR is it just the $97 per month for year 2?

      Cheers.
      Yes you can enter your own keywords, he mentions this in the final video.

      If you pick Option 2 then after the first year it is $97/month... I read him answer that somewhere in the comments but I can't seem to find it now.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingProInfo
    Thx Yusuf ...it's just some folks are quoting there's an 'annual fee' of $997 a year from year 2 onwards PLUS the $97 a month, yet I haven't seen where they've got that from...

    ...hope your answer is right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    I just found it, it was in the older comments in the post.

    Hi Chris,
    I also am confused about the payment options.
    1. If I take the pay $1997 in 4 payments, do I still get the Automator for life? Then the 2nd year is it $97/mo. or $997 + $97/mo.?
    2. If I take the pay in full $1997, then the 2nd year is it $97/mo. or is it another $997 + $97/mo.?
    Sorry for not understanding, but I do not want to make a mistake.


    Note from Chris:

    Sorry for the confusion. Yes if you do the $1997 in 4 payments then you get GCA for life. And your second year GCD is $97 per month. No joining fee. If you take the payment in full, then yes the 2nd years, GCD is only $97/mo (no joining fee)

    Hope that cleared that up!

    See you on the inside I hope!
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Hey Food Guru,

    Yea he's masking the domain and redirecting. Almost like an iFrame but just a mask.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    500 Internal Server Error

    Am I alone?
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  • Profile picture of the author sjchiz
    Nope...Big surprise their server blew up, huh? When doesn't this happen!
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Oh geez, the launch didn't even start yet and the site is already down.

    Is that a stunt or for real? I actually thought Chris seemed like an upstanding guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Looks like we discovered a niche.. an info product targeted at Internet marketers on how to not have their servers crash when they launch a product.
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I hope this works in the next few minutes. I snuck away from work for this.....

      Come on Chris!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    In the mean time...


    I was reading a post above on about buying from one another, and wonder if we partner up say 3 people, and A buys from affiliate B who buys form C who buys from A.

    We get 450$ and 27$ a month off the price as we make that in affiliate commission.


    Is that even allowed? If it is, I'd go for it. I wont at 997$ though.
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  • Profile picture of the author cms418
    To:
    google ranking expert. PLease read posts and know what we are all talking about so you don't bring a negative vibe into something you are not at all up to speed on.
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    • Profile picture of the author aandredor
      I get error after error . I think it will take a wile.
      Or a bit more than a wile .:confused::confused::confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author aandredor
        In the email I got today "A short while before the official launch, you will receive
        an email with a link to the order page."

        You got the same email ?
        I didn't got any order page until now

        Also , if they provide a order page , can I order through other link (a bonus link ?)



        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
          Originally Posted by aandredor View Post

          In the email I got today "A short while before the official launch, you will receive
          an email with a link to the order page."

          You got the same email ?
          I didn't got any order page until now

          Also , if they provide a order page , can I order through other link (a bonus link ?)



          Thanks
          I received that email also but I didn't get the second email with a link to the order page. Using the bonus link to order should work just fine though I hope.
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        • Profile picture of the author kab1973
          New Launch Date and Time for all those that don't know.

          Wednesday March 11th at noon EDT

          Due to the server crash.

          Edit: Sorry, for the repeat must have posted at same time.
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        • Profile picture of the author cms418
          The launch will be tomorrow now. Frick!
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Well, he IS in Mexico, maybe he's taking his siesta and forgot about the launch.
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckmcguffie
    Has anyone been able to get GCD. today? I have been trying since it oppened.
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

      I don't guys but I just found this link Few of the Features iSpionage Offers | Ispionage Review and it seems that the tool does the same things as gcdetective and is costing 10 times lesser and offers free trial etc. Judge for yourself.
      Well not exactly. Like the other tools it does not offer historical data up front, it only start collecting data when you start a new project. And you are limited to tracking 250 keywords.

      And those 2 points are the biggest selling point for GCD. 6 months of historical data for 2.5 million keywords. And you can add an unlimited number of your own keywords to be tracked.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulybear
        Hi Guys,
        I just got in a few minutes ago and hopefully everyone else will get in today too. I received an email from Chris saying that I won't be able to log in to use the detective until tomorrow due to the server crash but that is okay I'm just so excited to have gotten in. Good Luck to everybody.
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        • Profile picture of the author aandredor
          It's interesting , dnScoop shows ispionagereview is on for about 15 days
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        • Profile picture of the author evertd
          Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

          Most of the times the spy tools have existing data about alot of the keywords. I usually never have to wait for few days as they are able to use existing data, beside 1-2 days and you save $900 and get the same data?
          If all you want is a PPC spy tool to track a few keywords, you can get Adspy Pro for a one time $27 at AdSpy Pro. Only thing is you have to install it on your own host, but it is really cool and powerful. It tracks ads and also landing pages.

          I just signed up with GCD because I believe all the added value, history, additional training and all the plans they have going forward makes it worth the premium. (I'm signed up, but can't login yet because of the server problems)
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        • Profile picture of the author Shift
          Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

          Most of the times the spy tools have existing data about alot of the keywords. I usually never have to wait for few days as they are able to use existing data, beside 1-2 days and you save $900 and get the same data?
          Well you won't be getting the same data because GCD apparently has been tracking 2.5 million keywords for a few months, so it will be able to show which ads have been showing and for how many days.

          Whereas if you started to `spy' on such ads with another tool it'll only be able to show you the ads that are showing now. You won't know how long they've been showing for, unless you track them for a long time. So you won't get the historical data GCD apparently has.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shift
      Originally Posted by onedollaridea View Post

      I don't guys but I just found this link Few of the Features iSpionage Offers | Ispionage Review and it seems that the tool does the same things as gcdetective and is costing 10 times lesser and offers free trial etc. Judge for yourself.
      I looked at their site and it does seem to be able to do the same things as GCD.
      It's $79 / month and can track 250 keywords.
      If you want it to track more keywords you have to contact them for a custom price.

      So perhaps the only difference (besides the price) between this and GCD is that GCD apparently holds several months work of data and gives you access to 2million keywords.
      Any other differences?
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    It's working now.. at least for me. Order processed.
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  • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
    I am not getting the email although it says it was sent.
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    • Profile picture of the author aandredor
      For tommorow at 11 noon. Just got email
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
    I got in, but kind of a back door way. It was all legit and the order processed just fine. Now, I'm just waiting on access to the system. The whole system is overloaded right now including the database server.

    Chris is a stand-up guy. I've been a customer since Google Cash 1 and he has always stood by everything he's said. If his server is crashing, it's not a gimmick. You have to imagine the kind of traffic that the site is serving right now. As a web developer myself I know that there are a lot of moving parts to a big launch like this. It's not uncommon to have a server crash in a high traffic situation. It happens outside of the IM world too!

    Good luck to all those who are hoping to get in today. Now, stay off the damn servers so that I can get logged in and start making some cash!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shift
    The site works fine for me, don't know why some of you are saying the launch is only tomorrow.

    Anyway I won't be buying it because I think it's over-priced.

    Good luck, look forward to reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhollar
    that's correct..u wil pay $350 each month for 4 months (which also includes your $97 monthly fee per month)
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I bought it but can't log in. Everyone else the same?
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      • Profile picture of the author aniebee
        I knew I could count on warrior forum to figure out what's going on - ordered, but can't log in. figured it was a server thing.

        That damn $350/mth option got me, I was going to wait a few days, but figured why at that price?

        Thanks for the update guys!
        Ann
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        • Profile picture of the author Paulo
          I´m not sure the payment plan makes sense.

          So for the Annual Subscriptions how much will you
          pay the following years?

          Do you see it?
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          • Profile picture of the author aandredor
            I have also VISA debit card and it declined it ( I'm not sure but I'll see tomorrow (in my country is midnight ) , it could be only 340 $ on it (because of $ curs )
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            • Profile picture of the author CarlyTaylor
              Originally Posted by aandredor View Post

              I have also VISA debit card and it declined it ( I'm not sure but I'll see tomorrow (in my country is midnight ) , it could be only 340 $ on it (because of $ curs )
              I have plenty of cash available which is why I'm so angry. I don't own credit cards because I do not like to have any debt!

              Not only that but I have lots of money in my paypal too which I thought would be a guaranteed option.

              I actually waited in all day to be there at the very second of the launch and even got to the payment page at 11.45 EST only to have it declined.

              Bummer!
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              • Profile picture of the author paulybear
                Hi, You can go to Triple A (AAA) and get a prepaid VISA. Just take them the cash. They will put it on the card and then you can use the card for that amount of money. They charge you like $5 to do it. Then after you use the money that you put on the card, you can either put more money on it and use it again or just throw it away. Hope this helps.
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          • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
            Originally Posted by Paulo View Post

            I´m not sure the payment plan makes sense.

            So for the Annual Subscriptions how much will you
            pay the following years?

            Do you see it?
            This has already been answered above. Once your first year is up you'll start paying $97 per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingProInfo
    Can anyone shed any info on the GC Automator? ...it's a big upsell but one Chris hasn't gone into a great deal of detail about? He doesn't really touch on it in any of his videos either, with any screen shots, etc?

    To 'allegedly' be worth 97 bucks a month (the same as the Detective) it needs to be quite an impressive tool, yet no-one really mentions it or proclaims its ROI value?

    Are most of you that have managed to order taken up the 'lifestime automator' offer? If so, what attracted you to wanting this tool?
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by MarketingProInfo View Post

      Can anyone shed any info on the GC Automator? ...it's a big upsell but one Chris hasn't gone into a great deal of detail about? He doesn't really touch on it in any of his videos either, with any screen shots, etc?

      To 'allegedly' be worth 97 bucks a month (the same as the Detective) it needs to be quite an impressive tool, yet no-one really mentions it or proclaims its ROI value?

      Are most of you that have managed to order taken up the 'lifestime automator' offer? If so, what attracted you to wanting this tool?
      I signed up for the year membership, because even without GCA it'll save money over a year's time (not much, but some). He has touched on GCA several times, although not in depth. GCA is supposed to be able to help track your campaigns and conversions at a keyword level. And he talks about a way you can set it up to adjust bid prices in real time. For now I think it'll be great just to have a good and reliable tracking software.
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlyTaylor
    Does anyone know if they accept debit cards? I've been trying with my visa debit and it's declining. I don't have a credit card!
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  • Profile picture of the author oprjw
    Does anyone have an idea when we will be able to log into the detective?
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
    OK, a little update. I just went to try to login and am getting a new message now. This tells me that they're working on the issue.

    Thank you for your order!

    Your GCD account is being provisioned. All accounts are verified manually. Please stand-by for a confirmation email from us as soon as your account is ready for use.
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      its early 5.50am in sydney australia and I woke up so early to buy it.. thanks to people who bought from my link. i will be contacting you and see u other side of GCD.
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  • Profile picture of the author aniebee
    Hey CarlyTaylor - It sounds like Chris is a good guy. Maybe try emailing him about paying with Paypal. There have been a few times where I have emailed the marketer directly & they've always been helpful.

    Just an idea
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
    Another update for those who made it in. I just got an email from Chris about not being able to login. The server that creates the logins also crashed during the launch so they are doing it manually right now. Those who got in should be getting their login details soon.

    Good luck to all!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuf
    Looks like it's back up for whoever is interested.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Google Cash Detective is now back up and Live! Sorry to anyone who had to wait to get access.
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  • Profile picture of the author apa101
    Its up since almost 90 mins now..

    Hopefully, its going to be sold out
    pretty soon!

    People are SO motivated to buy!
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  • Profile picture of the author calliope
    Does anyone have a link to all the videos about GCD 2.0 so far? I'm particularly interested in the clickbooth video.
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by calliope View Post

      Does anyone have a link to all the videos about GCD 2.0 so far? I'm particularly interested in the clickbooth video.
      Looks like all the pre-launch video pages are redirecting to the sales page.
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      • Profile picture of the author davez
        That's a lot of deniro for a system that'll be worthless if everyone uses it to it's potential.

        I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind these guru's high priced system's is they have to strike while the iron's hot, I'm just plain discouraged with the whole ball of wax.

        Any how I can spend the money on clicks and do the work the hard way and find the real value in earning a good living online. Hopefully these system's won't piss Google off to bad.

        Thanks for the Rant,
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      • Profile picture of the author zlt
        Originally Posted by evertd View Post

        Looks like all the pre-launch video pages are redirecting to the sales page.
        Here is the link to Clickbooth webinar (replace dashes with dots - sorry cannot post directly yet) : googlecash-s3-amazonaws-com/streaming/webinar/webinar-mp4
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  • Profile picture of the author toolleather
    Hello everyone,
    I'm a newbie and wanted to get in on the GCD 2, but once I got into the order page and looked at the payment plan, things don't add up.
    1. Option 1 - $997 today and $97 per month thereafter
    Option 1 With Payments of $350 per month and $97 per month

    Looking at Option 1 with payments you are actually paying $1400 ($350 X4) + $97 per month say for the next 8 months which equals another $1164, so you are paying a total of $2564 for the year by going the payment route.

    2. Option 2 $1997 Today and no other payments for the first year
    Option 2 with payment is $547 X 4 = $2188
    Am I missing something or is there some extra money that's going out of your pocket?

    Let me know if I'm off base, I just think that it's a bit expensive and if you're trying to help folks give them the price stated.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
      i saw it also. why is it live when i received an email that said the launch was deferred until tomorrow. then according to him in the videos, option 1 came with a 3 part payment plan and option 2 came with a 4 part payment plan. there was no talk about a one time joining fee.

      hopefully someone can shed some light on this. certainly does not make someone feel very comfortable.
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  • Profile picture of the author evertd
    Yes, you are paying extra for the payment programs, which is to be expected. But the premium is pretty steep, on an annualized basis it is 20%+ interest (over 4 months it's like 60% apr).

    It will be cheaper to just put whichever single payment program you want on your credit card and paying it off over the next year (provided your credit card interest rate is lower than 20%). Or if you pay it off over the next 4 months, it will definitely be much cheaper than using his 4 month payment plan.
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    • Profile picture of the author apa101
      Originally Posted by evertd View Post

      Yes, you are paying extra for the payment programs, which is to be expected. But the premium is pretty steep, on an annualized basis it is 20%+ interest (over 4 months it's like 60% apr).

      It will be cheaper to just put whichever single payment program you want on your credit card and paying it off over the next year (provided your credit card interest rate is lower than 20%). Or if you pay it off over the next 4 months, it will definitely be much cheaper than using his 4 month payment plan.
      WORD!!!

      Thats what MOST of the guyz are doing. It really saves you some cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
    EDIT: Sorry, not trying to sound like a broken record. It looks like a couple others responded with basically the same message while I was typing mine out.

    toolleather,
    If you go with the payment plan, you're going to pay a higher total amount for the benefit of lower monthly payments. This is pretty common practice. If you have the cash to pay the full fee up front, that's definitely you're biggest savings. But, some people can't afford to drop $1997 all at once, so they're willing to pay extra for the ability to pay over time. This would be the same thing if you were paying interest on a loan.


    bidmarket,
    You may want to go back and review the pricing part of the videos again. I think Chris made it very clear that there was a $997 joining fee with a $97 monthly fee for option 1. Option 2 is $1997 with no joining fee and no monthly payments for the first 12 months.


    I'm certainly not a part of Chris' team, but I've been a long time customer and he's always been a man of his word.
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    • Profile picture of the author bidmarket
      okay, thank you.

      so if you want the gca, option 2 would be better?

      do you think gca is worth having?

      Is it live or isn't it? According to an email that I received from Chris, he was going to defer the launch until Wednesday at 12 est.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingProInfo
    I think some of you guys may have your sums wrong on the costs of GCD. From what I can work out it's all pretty much of a muchness as to what option you go with re overall cost. It's just the annual costs a bit more up front money, but doesn't really cost you overall much more...

    Monthly Option 1: $997 + 11 months @ $97 = $ 2064 for year
    Monthly Option 1 (payment plan): $1400 (4 x $350) + 8 months @ $97 = $2176 for
    year
    Annual Option 2: $1997 for year
    Annual Option 2 (payment plan): $2188 (4 x $547)

    So all the payment options are quite similar costing less than a couple of hundred bucks extra for the benefit of paying over an extended period ...AND you with the Annual Option the Automator is thrown in free for life...

    ...just my penny's-worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
    poor show so far

    No GCD
    Conference call not available (full)
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    • Profile picture of the author Guru
      its hard to get in the GCD right now as their server are very busy. but I am sure it will be ok in few days.
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      • Profile picture of the author cymonguk
        Originally Posted by Guru View Post

        its hard to get in the GCD right now as their server are very busy. but I am sure it will be ok in few days.
        I am sorry but you think that is acceptable?

        These guys take probably $500k minimum profit, and yet there is some kind of surprise in here?

        Why would an expert be surprised that someone who spends $2000 wants access to the services on day one? If you have say 100k people on the list (min), you know 1000 people are going to buy

        I don't buy it personally, same as I would expect 90% of people to want to join the first teleconference and size the service appropriately.

        Don't get me wrong, potentially fantastic tool, but to say that using up 10% of the guarantee period is acceptable without providing anything seems odd

        Lets also be honest this happens all the time, do we not learn from previous launches about capacity, etc.

        Chris seems like a great guy, and things will work out mmost likely, I just don't understand why in the IM community it is deemed acceptable to sell a $2k product you cannot supply?
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        • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
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          • Profile picture of the author Matrix9162
            Just be patient.

            The launch is still open. I thought it would close in a few hours, but it's still around. More wealth to share.
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        • Profile picture of the author Guru
          Originally Posted by cymonguk View Post

          I am sorry but you think that is acceptable?

          These guys take probably $500k minimum profit, and yet there is some kind of surprise in here?

          Why would an expert be surprised that someone who spends $2000 wants access to the services on day one? If you have say 100k people on the list (min), you know 1000 people are going to buy

          I don't buy it personally, same as I would expect 90% of people to want to join the first teleconference and size the service appropriately.

          Don't get me wrong, potentially fantastic tool, but to say that using up 10% of the guarantee period is acceptable without providing anything seems odd

          Lets also be honest this happens all the time, do we not learn from previous launches about capacity, etc.

          Chris seems like a great guy, and things will work out mmost likely, I just don't understand why in the IM community it is deemed acceptable to sell a $2k product you cannot supply?
          I can understand your frustration but I think this is just temp as everyone was waiting for it long time we all are trying to login and go to call ( finally i was in, they will put recording so no need to worry nothing great there anyway just general stuff )

          I am ok to get hold of this type of software even if I have to wait for some more time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Unexpected Error
    Login page not working for me. Just refreshes the page and my username and login are gone. Not a good start.
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    • Profile picture of the author cms418
      I think everything will work out very quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author JNFerree
      Glad I'm not the only guy with log-in issues.

      I hit reply to my welcome email from de man Chris but got a instant 'permanent failure' reply note from gmail.

      Whaaaaaa - Whaaaaa - Whaaaaa