PPC Ninja vs PPC Classroom

17 years ago

I have not bought either one, because I am currently staying away from PPC. I can say that Christian, the creator of PPC Ninja is a great guy and really practices what he preaches.

He is a stand up guy and would be willing to help you in any way you need.

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Jigar Banker

17 years ago

PPC Ninja is excellent.

I haven't gone through PPC Classroom yet.

Will let you know when I do.

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MikeC

17 years ago

Thanks. Is PPC Ninja aimed at beginners or has it got more advanced strategies

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askloz

17 years ago

You'll most likely find the same stuff in PPC Classroom AND a ton load more - no offense to Christian, I'm sure what he has to offer is workable.

But I know from experience you wont find anything better than Anik's stuff.

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ppcninja

17 years ago

hey,

it's Christian here..
I havent been on warrior in ages...

but the last response mentioned my stuff being "most likely" the same as PPC Classroom.

there is nothing "at all" the same about my product as PPC CLASSROOM..... FACT.

talk soon,
-Christian.

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askloz

17 years ago

I doubt that. PPC Classroom shows you everything there is needed to know about PPC - FACT!

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Tom B

Banned 17 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

I doubt that. PPC Classroom shows you everything there is needed to know about PPC - FACT!

If you haven't seen PPC Ninja's material than it is not fact but assumption on your part.

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askloz

17 years ago

I can assume what I like. I know that PPC Classroom covers a lot of stuff, even taking CPA's to the next level.

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

If you haven't seen PPC Ninja's material than it is not fact but assumption on your part.

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emjayce

17 years ago

whoa - PPC Ninja is like $200. Can anyone provide a more in-depth review of it or maybe clarify further how it differs from PPC Classroom?

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Matt

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Tom B

Banned 17 years ago

Originally Posted by honestbizpro

If you truly want to excel in PPC, no single product is the "ok I'm set for life" product or service. Get all you can...or all you can afford because it will only enhance your marketing career.

Exactly the way I feel as well. I don't even know how many PPC products I purchased but they all have allowed me to learn a thing or two. Sometimes one product just gives me the "That is how it all works" while another shows me a particular technique for keywords or bidding.

It has helped me a ton just to get over the learning curve faster.

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Click Maxim 17 years ago

hey Christian. why didn't you stick around and defend your product? I wouldn't be shy if it was my "almost $200" course or ebook.

Just a thought, and I also check the WF dates of posters to get an idea of how long someone has been in the game so to speak. Not the WF is a bar, but I see you posted here first in Sept 2008--was that just with this ID PPCninja?

You recieve some verity from others about support so you must have a good rep. Let us know what to expect, as I'm interested in PPC and Amazon on CPA too.
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mido

17 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

You'll most likely find the same stuff in PPC Classroom AND a ton load more - no offense to Christian, I'm sure what he has to offer is workable.

But I know from experience you wont find anything better than Anik's stuff.

Anik knows nothing about PPC/CPA, he acknowledged it in several calls in PPCC1. Yes, he sends spam emails promoting every product on the market.
I opted-out, and he won't quit sending me spam.

Amit, on the other hand, is a knowledgeable guy.

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baronig 17 years ago

i agree with you,he is hiding behind Amit.their names are also so close so people can mix easily Amit Anik.thanks for sharing.
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fifi

17 years ago

I belong to PPC2.0 and also have PPC Ninja's new ebook - and whilst both are about PPC - there is no overlap.

Both are solid in their own rights. I've learned tonnes from PPC2.0 about keyword research, going wide and deep, setting up in Google, Yahoo, MSN, using Adwords Editor etc etc.

PPC Ninja covers strategies and tactics you can employ to take your PPC/CPA efforts to another level. It's more "thinking outside of the box". Its more about finding what works - and how to find it - before you go and spend time and $$££ actually "doing stuff".

And Christian's support is nothing short of excellent :-)

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17 years ago

Originally Posted by Ishi

I belong to PPC2.0 and also have PPC Ninja's new ebook - and whilst both are about PPC - there is no overlap.

Both are solid in their own rights. I've learned tonnes from PPC2.0 about keyword research, going wide and deep, setting up in Google, Yahoo, MSN, using Adwords Editor etc etc.

PPC Ninja covers strategies and tactics you can employ to take your PPC/CPA efforts to another level. It's more "thinking outside of the box". Its more about finding what works - and how to find it - before you go and spend time and $ actually "doing stuff".

And Christian's support is nothing short of excellent :-)

Which one is better for the intermediate PPC marketer who has some
results?

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fifi

17 years ago

If you are getting results, PPC Ninja will show you how to capitalize on those results and take it to the next level. Plus, it's all in one ebook.

PPC2.0 is a great guide for getting into PPC/AM and teaches the foundational stuff but I found that if you weren't a newbie, ie for intermediate people, the rest of the info was slow in coming and the forum posts were being answered by people who were learning this stuff too, so it was very hit and miss. They are improving this somewhat, and there appears to be much more action in the forum with moderators also answering calls now.

But, briefly, if you know what you're doing and want to get on with it - I'd say PPC Ninja. But that's just my opinion. It'll be good to see what others weigh in with.

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digitalpimps

17 years ago

which one is more newbie friendly?

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PPC-Coach

17 years ago

I don't know Christian from a hole in the ground, but I bought PPC Ninja and I've read through all the PPC Classroom stuff.

PPC Ninja is more advanced then PPC Classroom. He provides real techniques, (and quite a few of them in his pdfs and videos). These are things you can take and apply right away. PPC Classroom is geared more for the new ppc marketer, in that it spends all of its time in that category. It is very well organized and provides good detail for new people but then it's the "now what" part where PPC Ninja steps in.

Both are good solid resources, but for anyone who isn't brand new, PPC Ninja has a bit more to offer. If you are brand new, read through PPC Classroom first, then get PPC Ninja after to really ramp up your profits.

I'm not knocking either one as they're both good resources, just at different experience levels for the buyer.

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CanuckMike

17 years ago

Originally Posted by honestbizpro

I see why Chris has been a little quiet...like a ninja. Just got this email from some guy named Frank Kern...
Pay Per Click NInja - DEMO VIDEO

(may be franks aff. link)

What a video it was. I tried that technique once last year with a Wii game and lost a ton. I realized that kids aren't the ones holding the credit cards.

Guess I need to get this and see what I did wrong.

Mike.

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Dexx

17 years ago

So is the consensus that PPC Ninja is worth the $200?

Or is it a $97 ebook being marketed for $200?

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PPC-Coach 17 years ago

Originally Posted by Dexx

So is the consensus that PPC Ninja is worth the $200?

Or is it a $97 ebook being marketed for $200?

IF you pick up even ONE idea that makes you money, (and you will), then it's well worth it.

If you just read it, say "that's nice" and move along, then it's a waste for you.

Action is key to success.
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Dexx

17 years ago

Great point

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emjayce

17 years ago

All - I'd like to get more details about what PPC Ninja is all about...

A few questions:

What kind of PPC strategies are they focused on?

ie. Direct linking vs. landing pages to merchant

ie. Content Networks vs. Adwords Search

Yahoo? MSN?

What about Market Research? and Competitive intelligence?

What makes PPC Ninja different for the everyday PPC guide / course that we've been seeing recently (ie. Commission Blueprint, PPC Classroom, Beating Adwords)?

An honest in-depth review would be much appreciated.

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Joseph Then

17 years ago

Originally Posted by emjayce

All - I'd like to get more details about what PPC Ninja is all about...

A few questions:

What kind of PPC strategies are they focused on?

ie. Direct linking vs. landing pages to merchant

ie. Content Networks vs. Adwords Search

Yahoo? MSN?

What about Market Research? and Competitive intelligence?

What makes PPC Ninja different for the everyday PPC guide / course that we've been seeing recently (ie. Commission Blueprint, PPC Classroom, Beating Adwords)?

An honest in-depth review would be much appreciated.

OK, I own both now. Just run through PPC Ninja and I felt that it should be a money well spent.

Christian gave me a kick in for an idea and now I'm running a campaign to see if it works for me.

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Dale Ray 17 years ago

You get some great education from both products. But as stated in another post here "ACTION is the Key" to success. Just reading then will not help!
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- davemiz 17 years ago
  
  comparing the 2 products is like comparing apples vs. oranges. Yes they're both fruits, but they're totally different.
  
  Why don't you guys just sign up to his list, get the free videos and see for yourself?
  
  the first video he shares looks pretty ninja (no pun intended :-)
  
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schnisz

17 years ago

I got PPC Classroom and I found some of the stuff went by really fast for a newbie. Not that you cant go back and look again, but a little frustrating.

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GoogleMcDougall

17 years ago

Hey Warriors,

Colin McDougall here, seasoned veteran in all things online.

I did a podcast at Michael Campbell's house along with the Ninja himself.

During our conversation I learned tons of great tips from Christian, he has taken his PPC efforts waaaaay further than I ever have and have to say I am VERY impressed with the course he has put together.

If you are sitting on the fence on this one...

Definitely make the leap and get PPC Ninja

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Charles Harper

17 years ago

Is there anyone promoting PPC Ninja with a good bonus?

Charles

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doitz

17 years ago

Hi Christion ( Owner of PPC ninja ),

is you 60 day money back guarantied is REAL ?
explain me about your money back guarantied

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jon poland

17 years ago

PPC Ninja has me a bit confused.

About a third of the way through the sales letter Christian of PPC Ninja is talking about his buddy Allan who is making a killing with "CPA Style Offers." It is during this part of the sales letter that he is showing copies of multiple Google Adsense checks. Correct me if I am wrong, but if Allan is making a killing with CPA offers, shouldn't the checks be from companies like Azoogle and Neverblue, and not from Google?

Am I missing something here?

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doitz

17 years ago

nothing new method in PPC ninja,
I bought it yesterday, there is standart method about content network

I plan to ask refund

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Originally Posted by doitz

nothing new method in PPC ninja,
I bought it yesterday, there is standart method about content network

I plan to ask refund

I think most of us already knew you would be refunding before you even purchased.
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- Dano77 17 years ago
  
  Hey guys,
  
  I've met Christian in person, and listened to his strategies...
  
  The guy gets as excited as a mexican jumping bean about his
  strategies... It's inspiring and exciting.
  
  The glow in his eyes is priceless! LOL
  
  But seriously, his stuff is gold, and if you're even for a second
  wondering "Why" he charges $197 think about it this way...
  
  If you were making some good "Beyond life sustaining" coinage
  and decided you wanted to share it with everyone, you certainly
  wouldn't give away the farm for $27 bucks...
  
  Heck Christian probably wouldn't feel guilty at $2777 but his mentors
  would have instructed him that given his recent arrival in the IM
  world, he probably wouldn't get many sales and that would defeat
  the purpose.
  
  Bottom line, it's worth it and if you're not making money with your
  PPC campaigns or even any money at all online, i strongly suggest
  you check it out.
  
  Every penny will be justified.
  
  And I think the age of my "warrior forum" account speaks volumes.
  The guys who really know their stuff listen ALOT and talk very little.
  
  Dan
  
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doitz

17 years ago

do you think direct linking and several bid strategies in content network is the new secret ?

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MikeC

17 years ago

Did you even read it?? Sure it uses those methods but there are specific sutle strategies that involve thinking outside the box that are quite clever.

If you only downloaded it after your query above about the guarantee then you read it and tied it out in 6 hours?

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doitz

17 years ago

what about definition of moneyback guarantied ?
make it simple ....

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Rob K 17 years ago

I joined PPC Classroom and it is absolutely fantastic. Anyone can use it and it is easy to understand. I think you can use the info as a newbie as well as an advanced marketer.
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GoogleMcDougall

17 years ago

Colin McDougall here...

Charles Harper asked if anybody was giving bonuses with the PPC Ninja

I will be offering an exclusive interview that myself and Michael Campbell did with Christian where he reveals a technique that he used to make money using President Obama's name that is not in the course when you buy from my affilaite link.

To get the bonus go to the PPC Ninja review page at VEO Report - Google it because I figure links aren't allowed in forum posts

Oh yeah... When you get there you might see my blog is getting overhauled so forgive me if images aren't tuned up yet...

PPC Ninja is simply one of the best courses I have ever seen on the topic of paid search and having met Christian personally I can say this

He is a stand up guy that cares about his customers...

So much so that he bailed out on a MasterMind session in downtown Vancouver to personally tend to his customers

Christian.... Hopefully you aren't bogged down Tuesday to join us for another MasterMind in White Rock...

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GoogleMcDougall

17 years ago

Kellyfish

PPC Ninja is one of those rare products that is aweseome for newbies and seasoned veterans

I have been doing incredibly well online since early 2001 and I learned some great stuff from Christian's PPC Ninja course.

I got several great nuggets of gold from the course and I know you will too

The audio interview I did with Christian last night will be posted on the VEO Report blog soon

My blog is getting an overhaul because I am VERY aesthetically challenged

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jhollar

17 years ago

I have no doubt that the course would be good...but its just strange that all the cheques displayed in the sales page are all from Google ...and that too, from 2007.

I have never seen a internet marketing sales letter where someone displayed their success two years ago....if you are showing proof of earnings, either show what's current or don't show at all...

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jon poland

17 years ago

Originally Posted by jhollar

I have no doubt that the course would be good...but its just strange that all the cheques displayed in the sales page are all from Google ...and that too, from 2007.

I have never seen a internet marketing sales letter where someone displayed their success two years ago....if you are showing proof of earnings, either show what's current or don't show at all...

And the checks are not made out to Christian. They are made payable to his "friend" Allan.

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bmchunu

17 years ago

But which is better?

A couple of people in this thread have spoke like they own both, but have still not said directly which is better.

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Jays80 17 years ago

PPC Classroom is good if you are total beginner, if you have some knowledge PPC Ninja is better option.

Originally Posted by bmchunu

But which is better?

A couple of people in this thread have spoke like they own both, but have still not said directly which is better.
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baronig

17 years ago

to buy or not to buy?200$ i find it too much.does it come with forum lifetime updates,...

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GoogleMcDougall

17 years ago

Hey Warriors,

This reminds me SOOOO much of when I released The VEO Report

Before that I was just a guy making piles of cash silently online then I entered the internet marketing training space and saw these exact same questions going on

And that is exactly why I ignored forums because there is sooooooooo much doubt happening in places like this

I met Christian in person for the first time only a few weeks ago and he is the real deal and he's as humble as any non-guru

Christian created the PPC Ninja because he has been friends with Michael Campbell for a while now and Michael encouraged him to teach what he does because it's an amazing system.

Christian did not set out to be the next guru and I think you should consider that possible Google to Google arbitrage is still something that can make a quick buck for testing markets...

I could go on and on here but this is simply to address jhollers concerns...

jholler.... Watch for something exciting coming out from me in the coming months to help folks like you

As far as PPC Classroom Vs. PPC Ninja banter goes

Get this folks

Both are EXCELLENT courses

I was on a panel at Affiliate Summit West 09 in Las Vegas in January with Amit Mehta, Anik Singal and Rosalind Gardner

While having lunch with Amit, Rosalind and Dr. Mike Woo-Ming at the Indian restaurant at the Rio Hotel when the lunch bill came Amit Mehta promptly offered to pay and get this...

The dude whipped out his American Express Black Card

For those of you that don't know what the Amex Black Card is

It means this:

You spend a heck of a LOT of money on your credit card (more than most people make) and you pay it off every month in full

The Amex Black Card is an exclusive club

Eventually I will find the time to post the pic I took of Amit with his black card on my blog

OK, I am rambling now but the point is this

Both PPC Classroom and PPC Ninja will benefit you

Christian Weselak, The PPC Ninja, is the real deal and one of the biggest reasons I am in here is again, I remember when I wrote the VEO Report and didn't have the support in place to respond to forum fires like this.

Rather than question which is better than what

Why not get both

You will learn from both courses

My path to becoming an entrepreneur included reading books like Robert Allen's Multiple Streams of Income and Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad, Poor Dad

I learned lots about being an entrepreneur from both of those guys and I never asked for a refund after reading each book.

Warrior Tip of the Day:

Invest some cash in your education and then do this

Take action, apply what you have learned, and fail with what you have learned because you are not yet good at this.

When you have your first failure, you have taken your first step to success.

I call this "Failing Forward"

Untill you apply the basics of what you have learned you will never truly become successful without execution.

Did I hit a home run with my first online business attempt?

Nope... Bombed big time...

So I learned more and became better and better until I got to the point to get what I now call "Summers of Freedom" - You can check out my vid on my sales page at the VEO Elite website to get a taste of what Summers of Freedom look like

Now get busy and get back to taking action

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thadley 17 years ago

I didn't know anything about PPC and hadn't heard of PPC Ninja nor PPC Classroom. Actually, I was afraid of PPC because I had heard of so many people who had lost money with it.
I found a program called PPC Domination. For a total newbie, it was precise in going step by step with each video to show how to get setup. I thought it was somewhat simple once I got started, and got excited when I started getting clicks. Anyone familiar with the PPC Domination program to see how it compares with other two?
Google's latest slap is that they don't like forwarded or masked domains and will shut your Adwords campaign down if you have one in there.

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Jmn187

17 years ago

My vote is for ppc ninja.

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jeswarrior 17 years ago

PPC Ninja started fine for me until it started to get into trademarked keyword bidding. That's a big no no unless you live in the ass of the world. All went down hill for me after that.

A few great gems here and there can be found. Some newbies might get lost. Vague material. My opinion.
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4runner

17 years ago

I'll also be picking up PPC Ninja to add to the "library". If any of you have looked at Gauher Chaudry's stuff (Pay Per Click Formula 1 & 2) - his stuff is regarded as some of the best and most comprehensive material about PPC to CPA (and cost per view promotion).

His PPC formula 1 was what got me into this whole game a couple years ago and PPC2.0 was just released.

** Rant starts now...

One VERY IMPORTANT thing I want to point out - whenever you purchase something from any of these "gurus", take a note of how quickly and often they pitch you SOMETHING ELSE after you've become a customer. Chances are, the big cheques they are showing are probably commission cheques that are resulting from their own product launch and affiliate sales of OTHER JV partners - not necessarily from just what they teach in their own material. It was nice to see Christian's examples show revenue from doing what he actually teaches as opposed to other gurus who show their clickbank statements that are likely their own product launch as well as results from their recent pitching of their buddies' products to their 100,000+ person lists and I look forward to purchasing ppc ninja and picking up some tidbits (besides, he's a fellow Canadian too so have to support the crazy Canucks

As an example, Gauher Chaudry has NEVER pitched me anything (unless it's 100% exclusive to his own customers and isn't available to anyone else other than his own customers) in the 3+ years I've been on his list and only supports HIS product and talks directly about HIS product. Other great guys are Andrew Hansen from Firepow, Marc and Daniel over at PLR PRO, Howie Schwartz - they only talk about and support their OWN products and go out of their way to keep me a customer as opposed to doing the "co-reg" hell - There are a few others as well but I'd say 90% of the stuff I've bought, within 2 days - I'm getting pitched on OTHER totally non-related stuff which annoys the hell out of me. I could name some names, but I'm sure you can just check in your inbox and you'll see DOZENS of them. Ask yourself when was the last time they followed up with you on THEIR OWN original product you bought from them and asked how you were making out before they tried to sell you the next widget?

Speaking of which - how many other products has Anik from PPC Classroom guys pitched in the last couple weeks? The day after their launch and selling millions of dollars worth of memberships, they immediately pitched GCD 2.0 (heavily), then a couple days later a product from Stephen Pierce (although not an official affiliate link), then Gauhers' PPC Formula 2.0 (a fantastic product regardless and Anik was Gauher's #1 affiliate selling over 250k worth), then Niche Socializer (another $1000 product), then "blog network association", .... etc etc etc. I think you get the idea.

The point is - with "opportunity addiction" running rampant on the web these days, it would be nice to see product owners really helping their customers focus for a period of time on the product they just sold to their customer and really go beyond the call of duty to ensure success with their own product - NOT immediately distract their newly acquired customer with ANOTHER product or system or guide that is going to divert the customers focus to something away from what they were trying to teach in the first place! You buy PPC Classroom to learn PPC specifically, then the next day you're being pitched to start social networking sites? how is that beneficial?

Sorry for the rant, I've been very quiet in the WF over the last couple years but the last little while I've had to spew since it's getting ridiculous!

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17 years ago

Originally Posted by 4-runner

I'll also be picking up PPC Ninja to add to the "library". If any of you have looked at Gauher Chaudry's stuff (Pay Per Click Formula 1 & 2) - his stuff is regarded as some of the best and most comprehensive material about PPC to CPA (and cost per view promotion).

His PPC formula 1 was what got me into this whole game a couple years ago and PPC2.0 was just released.

** Rant starts now...

One VERY IMPORTANT thing I want to point out - whenever you purchase something from any of these "gurus", take a note of how quickly and often they pitch you SOMETHING ELSE after you've become a customer. Chances are, the big cheques they are showing are probably commission cheques that are resulting from their own product launch and affiliate sales of OTHER JV partners - not necessarily from just what they teach in their own material. It was nice to see Christian's examples show revenue from doing what he actually teaches as opposed to other gurus who show their clickbank statements that are likely their own product launch as well as results from their recent pitching of their buddies' products to their 100,000+ person lists and I look forward to purchasing ppc ninja and picking up some tidbits (besides, he's a fellow Canadian too so have to support the crazy Canucks

As an example, Gauher Chaudry has NEVER pitched me anything (unless it's 100% exclusive to his own customers and isn't available to anyone else other than his own customers) in the 3+ years I've been on his list and only supports HIS product and talks directly about HIS product. Other great guys are Andrew Hansen from Firepow, Marc and Daniel over at PLR PRO, Howie Schwartz - they only talk about and support their OWN products and go out of their way to keep me a customer as opposed to doing the "co-reg" hell - There are a few others as well but I'd say 90% of the stuff I've bought, within 2 days - I'm getting pitched on OTHER totally non-related stuff which annoys the hell out of me. I could name some names, but I'm sure you can just check in your inbox and you'll see DOZENS of them. Ask yourself when was the last time they followed up with you on THEIR OWN original product you bought from them and asked how you were making out before they tried to sell you the next widget?

Speaking of which - how many other products has Anik from PPC Classroom guys pitched in the last couple weeks? The day after their launch and selling millions of dollars worth of memberships, they immediately pitched GCD 2.0 (heavily), then a couple days later a product from Stephen Pierce (although not an official affiliate link), then Gauhers' PPC Formula 2.0 (a fantastic product regardless and Anik was Gauher's #1 affiliate selling over 250k worth), then Niche Socializer (another $1000 product), then "blog network association", .... etc etc etc. I think you get the idea.

The point is - with "opportunity addiction" running rampant on the web these days, it would be nice to see product owners really helping their customers focus for a period of time on the product they just sold to their customer and really go beyond the call of duty to ensure success with their own product - NOT immediately distract their newly acquired customer with ANOTHER product or system or guide that is going to divert the customers focus to something away from what they were trying to teach in the first place! You buy PPC Classroom to learn PPC specifically, then the next day you're being pitched to start social networking sites? how is that beneficial?

Sorry for the rant, I've been very quiet in the WF over the last couple years but the last little while I've had to spew since it's getting ridiculous!

I don't what to say,just totally 100% agree with you!!!!

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genegsk 17 years ago

Hi,

Any idea if PPC Ninja will work for promoting physical products like a nutritional supplement for fat loss?

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GoogleMcDougall

17 years ago

Hey Warriors

First of all thanks N1 for your comment and JMN187, yeah my vote is with PPC Ninja AND also with PPC Classroom

Both are stand-up courses

KellyFish - You said it sounds like a sales pitch...

Get that thinking outta your mind right now

You PM'd me and said you are a college student...

Hmmmm, you have no problem dropping your money (or your parents money) on college tuition to get an antiquated education that IS going to cost 10's if not 100's of thousands of dollars to give you thinking and tactics from the industrial age that won't work in this new age

The information age...

Rich Schrefren gave it a much better name though, it's more like the Attention Age

Whatever you call it times have changed and to drop a couple hundred bucks to sort this all out is worth every dime

I have to say again that I learned TONS of stuff from Amit Mehta while sitting beside him on the stage at Affiliate Summit West in Vegas

And...

I learned tons of different stuff from Christian, The PPC Ninja while recording a podcast with him at Michael Campbell's house

My success does NOT come from debating which course is better

My success comes from my personal mantra that is this:

"Always Be Learning"

The fact is we are all human beings and nobody is perfect

There is ALWAYS room for improvement

Improvement comes only in learning

Try both PPC Ninja and Affiliate Classroom and when you go through these courses thoughts are going to spawn

Here is what I do when thoughts spawn in my mind

I take action

Sometimes I fail when trying something new but here is how I deal with my failures

I ask this simple question:

"Why didn't that work?"

Then I get myself some answers and try again

When I do that here's what happens

OK, That worked better but still ain't perfect

Let's tweak, Let's tune....

It is then and only then when I hit the home run ball out of the park

Or tip the puck past the goalie (OK, I am a Canadian guy that loves playing hockey)

I think you get my point here.

If you haven't got the point, the point is this

In my years of operating an online business, I have RARELY hit gold on my first attempt to promote a product.

Success takes effort, research, constant learning and a perservance with a winning attitude

As I said in my last post....

Get busy and get back to work right now because action produces results

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kryacek 17 years ago

PPC Classroom takes you from ground zero upwards and have ton loads of material. It takes a lot of time to go through all the modules if you are like me who want to read through every single line...

However, if you are already relatively advance in PPC. You may not want to go through from ground zero through PPC Classroom. Then you may want to take a look at PPC Ninja. It is packed with advance PPC techniques.

In my opinion both are really good! Its best to get both!
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John34

17 years ago

I personally liked PPC ninja,some great info included.

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baronig 17 years ago

Just curious where does Perry Marshall's The Definitive Guide To
Google AdWords comes in?I have just finished Howie's Adwords For Dummies and looking to learn more about tips and tricks.any ideas?will PPC Ninja covers PPC basics or it is better to buy Perry's book and then Ninja?
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calliope

17 years ago

PPC Ninja has been great as far as getting clued in about what works on the content network. I also have access to ppc classroom and have to say that there's a webinar in the member's area from January of this year (by Adrienne Devita) that also goes into some depth about the content network.

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17 years ago

Originally Posted by calliope

PPC Ninja has been great as far as getting clued in about what works on the content network. I also have access to ppc classroom and have to say that there's a webinar in the member's area from January of this year (by Adrienne Devita) that also goes into some depth about the content network.

you mean Adrienne 's webinar " how to find winning keywords " or something else?
I like her webinar, by the way ,she look sexy too ..:-)

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GoogleMcDougall

17 years ago

Hey Warriors,

Gotta say thanks for the thanks to baronig, Ray Erdmann and of course N1 for appreciating my comments

Baronig - In a previous post I mentioned this:

"Always be learning"

When I first started dabbling in PPC and losing lots of money on some campaigns and raking it in on others years ago I knew I didn't know enough about Pay Per Click marketing so I did this (in response to your comment)

I bought both Perry's and Howie's books and get this

I learned from both of them

Also, I mentioned that while speaking at Affiliate Summit West on the Super Affiliate PPC Strategies Panel with Amit, Rosalind and Anik I learned some stuff from Amit

And are your ready for this

When I was at Michael Campbell's house doing a podcast with Michael and Christian I learned a thing or 2 from him as well

OK, after almost 10 years of doing this stuff maybe I didn't learn anything new but Christian sure spawned some thoughts in my mind where I knew some stuff but never thought to use THAT with my PPC marketing efforts

So Baronig, if you don't yet have The Definitive Guide to Google AdWords or Howie's AdWords for Dummies you need to go get both of those right now

I met both Perry and Howie when I gave my presentation at last year's Systems Seminar - Both Howie and Perry will help guide you to success

Remember my personal mantra "Always be Learning"

Caviat to that and other personal mantra is "Always be taking action"

There will be more podcasts on the VEO Report blog featuring Christian Weselak (The Ninja) and Amit & Anik from PPC Classroom soon so stay tuned for those

Summary: If you need to learn about PPC tactics then go grab all of the courses and dive into your studies

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17 years ago

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baronig 17 years ago

I would like to thank GoogleMcDougall for taking the time and encouraging and giving us guidance in this direction.I already have Howie Jacobson's Adowrds For Dummies book which helped me to setup my first campaign step by step .I will buy Perry's Definitive Guide to Google I think it's 49$US.
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papeter

17 years ago

Can I digress a little from this thread. Does Chris Carpenter's Google Cash Detective or PPC Bully fit in with PPC Classroom & Ninja?

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GoogleMcDougall

17 years ago

Hey Baronig - Thanks again for the thanks!

Papeter - I met the guys from PPC Bully after speaking on the Super Affiliate PPC Sales Strategies panel at Affiliate Summit.

They approached me after somebody in the audience asked what our favorite PPC spy tools were and each of the panelists had a different answer

I have been using SpyFu and gotta share an amusing story with you, somebody in the audience asked me to spell SpyFu...

They got the Spy part and then asked Spy what???

My response was FU... I laughed from the stage and pointed out that was the first time EVER that I got to say FU from a speaking platform

My point is this, the time you spend trying to figure out this tool vs that tool is time wasted where you are not making money.

I have a PPC Bully account but haven't had the time to take it for a test drive yet

Why???

Because I am waaayyyy too busy with other stuff right now, I have a set of keywords that are producing results for me so before dabbling in other tools I am going full force on completing a project I have been working on.

After nailing that project down and enjoying the profits from that, then and only then will I go take other spy tools for a test run.

Spending time pondering tools is usually time wasted

What I find when it comes to competing tools is there are some very strong features of certain tools that give me better results in some areas...

Yeah, I have a hard drive full of tools and use each one for my unique business needs at the time I need them

Think about online tools in a similar fashion to why you have several different screw drivers.

Sometimes a certain screw driver will fit the need better than another because the size and shape are slightly different but you need both to complete a project

But if I spend all day at Home Depot debating which screw driver to buy then the project goes nowhere so to get the project done I buy a few screw drivers so I have the right fit when I need it to get the darn project completed

Hope that helps...

Remember this folks - Talk - Action Still = Zero

If you are stuck on something then try a few things. By trying things out for yourself you are another step closer to achieving success.

Do NOT worry about getting things wrong. I have bloodied my knees more times than I can count to get where I am today.

I call this "Failing Forward"

When you take action you will likely screw a few things up but that's how we all learn.

I didn't get good at this internet stuff without taking a few risks and saying "ouch that hurt" a few times. But I did stuff to figure out where my personal "ouches" were and as a result of the battle scars I am stronger and know what to do and what not to do better than most

Now go get back to work and bloody up those knees now

Success is only a few key strokes away when you are not distracted

Colin "Google" McDougall

PS. Baronig, my fellow Canadian friend, if you are in the Vancouver area, look me up

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baronig 17 years ago

I wish I have lived in beautiful British Columbia, I live in Montreal thanks for the invitation.
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  Baronig - right now Vancouver feels like Montreal, so don't worry about feeling left out
  
  In any event, I did get to see Christian's ad via Frank Kern's mail out. I've tried to get a hold of him, but he must be really busy...
  
  Just wondering with PPC Ninja how out-of-box is it? Can you get rolling straight away?
  
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Charles Harper

17 years ago

Colin:

Is your bonus still available?

CT

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GoogleMcDougall

17 years ago

Charles - Yes offer is still good, tried to reply to your PM but I guess I don't got enough posts in warrior forum yet... Send an email to mcdoog2112 at shaw dot ca and eventually I will read that box and reply

Baronig, Philipc is obviously another Vancouverite... And it's kinda sucks here in Vancouver right now, lots of rain and cold....

Next stop... Anywhere it's Sunny and Warm....
(Likely going to be in Atlanta next week)

Baronig / Phiipc - Seems we are a few Canadians here

Outside of IM stuff, I grew up in Brockville Ontario, the first NHL game I saw was with my Dad at the Monteal Forum (I grew up as a Habs fan), then moved to Vancouver in 1986.

Never cheered for the Canucks until all the buzz in the city when the Canucks went to Game 7 against the Rangers in 1994.

Yeah baby, I am now a Canucks and Habs fan

My ideal NHL Stanley Cup final is the 'Nucks and Habs

What the heck does this have to do with online marketing????

What does it take for a Montreal Canadiens fan to cheer for another team???

Baronig, you live in Montreal (at least that's how it seems to me...), you know once a Habs fan, always a Habs fan

But how did Colin McDougall start cheering for another team, like the Vancouver Canucks?

There was some SERIOUS flag waving, horn honking, whooping and cheering EVERYWHERE in the city as the 'Nucks polished off those evil Leafs

The buzz in the city was ELECTRIC!!!!

1995 marked the year I bought my first Canucks Jersey because I was sold on this team

Hmmmm...

Buzzz....

Electric....

That Buzz and Electricity that took hold on the city of Vancouver in 1994 resulted in me buying Jersey after Jersey, ticket after ticket to attend the games...

OK, I haven't bought that new jesery with Vancouver arching over the rink and stick logo because I don't like the look.... (Apparently that has to do with branding the city for the 2010 Winter Olympics... Will buy the next Jersey though)

Marketing lesson from that:

What are YOU doing to create your BUZZ?

What are you doing to ELECTRIFY your website offers?

Are you driving some PPC traffic into a profound report you created in your industry?

Are you using effective headlines in your social media strategy???

Can you pull me away from being a Vancouver Canucks fan?

Can you convince me those evil Toronto Maple Leafs are worthy of my cheer???

After all Vancouver has Mats Sundin in their line up now

OK, I think you the point....

Do something cool, get immersed in ONE single industry then use some PPC Ninja tactics to dominate your industry, discover some of your Green Money Lines, get some killer copy into your follow up sequence..

Get good at creating some buzz worthy stuff and you too will be joining me on the beach this summer for a Colin McDougall Summer of Freedom (OK, I took 4 months off last summer)

Yes, it's kinda cool being 39 years old and semi-retired

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baronig 17 years ago

GoogleMcDougall ,I am also 39 years old.
I hardly watch a sport except Sci_Fi SG1
They are big here in Montreal,I know when there is a game by seeing all the habs flags on the cars
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- Philipc 17 years ago
  
  Thanks Colin. I've been here 10 years, but still an Oilers fan at heart
  
  I've been trying to reach you via emails (I' can't PM yet). Is there a way you can get me your email for questions?
  
  Anyway, just wondering with PPC Ninja - how well does this compliment your VEO stuff?
  
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GoogleSearchToday.com

17 years ago

No I have not. I don't use PPC, just SEO to get ranked number one.

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audio90

17 years ago

There seem to be a lot of Vancouverites here. Is that so? I'd love to connect with more people in BC.

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4runner 17 years ago

Originally Posted by audio90

There seem to be a lot of Vancouverites here. Is that so? I'd love to connect with more people in BC.

Perhaps some of the Vancouver folks would be up for a meetup.
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- Nathan Hangen 17 years ago
  
  Here is my take:
  
  He has a really good section on deconstructing competitors campaigns, which I found useful.
  
  However, I honestly don't think PPC is that difficult on its own? Maybe finding the right offer is a bit rough at times, but I think PPC is the easiest thing to master in IM.
  
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  Obelisk 17 years ago
  
  I personally thought the material was a bit vague too. Alot of other tools were recommended which I did not appreciate. If there's one thing I can't stand it's a fairly high priced item that speaks of 'raking it in' but in order to do so you need a gas pedal, a steering wheel, and special wing-nutz for the formula to work...
  
  While I am sure Christian knows his stuff, I thought this product lacked alot of details concerning the methods...
  
  In all honesty, if you want to learn ppc then go to the source....Google! They have all the tutorials you'll need.
  
  At least this has been my experience...just my .02 cents...
  
  Chris
  
  P.S. I think I may create an Uber-PPC-Course. It will consist of one page, I will charge $997, and the page will be a link to the Google Adwords how-to video page...har har har
  
  (The above was not meant to offend anyone, my sleep deprived noggin thought it sounded funny at 3:39 am low on sleep & high on BAWLS)
  
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  baronig 17 years ago
  
  does anyone know about AdWords System Exposed 9 - Winning Adwords for Small Business Ownersß ?the content seems ok just wondering if someone read it?
  
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Gee S

17 years ago

Why not try both out see which you prefer?

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Woody C

17 years ago

In case you didn't know, Christian just re-opened PPC Ninja. He told me he add 7 new videos, so it is even better.

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davesh

17 years ago

is the ppc ninja capable of making u money? because i have used ppc 2.0 but i have not made a single dime of it...?

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lburkeau

17 years ago

I have used PPC 2.0 and it is newbie friendly for sure...there is so much information available in the program that details all aspects, let alone the additional support and information that Amit and Anik provide throughout the lessons..

There are several upgrades provided also depending how in depth you want to go...

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LB

17 years ago

Someone clue me in a little...on the PPC ninja site I see photos of Google Adsense checks...so the course talks about sending PPC traffic to Adsense sites? Google's never liked that very much- or am I wrong?

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17 years ago

Originally Posted by LB

Someone clue me in a little...on the PPC ninja site I see photos of Google Adsense checks...so the course talks about sending PPC traffic to Adsense sites? Google's never liked that very much- or am I wrong?

His videos show him sending traffic to CPA offers. I was thinking of getting it but held off since I haven't gotten into cpa yet and am not currently doing ppc. Andre the marketing bully has been promoting it and mentioned Christian will be pulling the product soon.

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AllThingsArePossible 17 years ago

PPC classroom rocks (:0

Forums, updated new course modules, and coaches are first rate!
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Archimedes

17 years ago

I'm a relative IM newbie and I signed up for PPC Classroom 2.0 about two months ago. It is set up to be an entry point for PPC newbies like me. However, even as a newb, I found some info redundant. The best part of PPC Classroom are the pre-researched niches in the Niche Detective portion ($19.97 per month) not that you'd want to compete with hundreds of others in the same niche, but you save a ton of time knowing which niches are viable (keywords provided). I wasn't too imptressed with the forum, although it may provide important contacts. What I do NOT like about PPC Classroom is the ongoing $97 per month membership fee to access new audio webinars and the forum after you've paid out $297 to access the basic stuff and last two years of Vegas seminars... way too steep of a membership fee if you ask me. I will be looking into PPC Ninja.

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Maccanz

17 years ago

There's a lot of talk about all the different courses you can take - but is anyone actually making money from any of the techniques they've learned? It's all well and good that they're 'great courses' but it would be good to hear that some people are actually doing quite well using strategies suggested.

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bholdren

17 years ago

If your looking for the basics of PPC such as keyword research, selecting a profitable niche, or setting up your pay per click campaigns then a course like PPC Classroom would be the best choice.

But if your looking for advanced PPC Techniques like how to bid on catch phrases or slogans, direct linking tactics that still work and how to make huge profits from the Google content network then you will benefit from PPC Ninja.

The best thing about PPC Ninja is that Christian shows you the unique strategies he uses to make money on a daily basis. The course is written so that newbies and advanced internet marketers can understand and use to make money.

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RGallowitz

17 years ago

ONE THING is for damn sure, PPC Ninja doesn't have a very good support system in place. I tried to contact them several times about his affiliate program and received no response as of yet.

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Vjack 17 years ago

RGallowitz - Good point. I asked a simple question and never got a response.
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17 years ago

I used to be a member of PPC Classroom 2.0 when it first
came out. I'd even signed up for a few upsells they had,
but the support was absolutely terrible considering I invested
a few hundred bucks in the program.

At the end I got a refund, which didn't quite happen until I
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etreet

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Li Weng

I used to be a member of PPC Classroom 2.0 when it first
came out. I'd even signed up for a few upsells they had,
but the support was absolutely terrible considering I invested
a few hundred bucks in the program.

At the end I got a refund, which didn't quite happen until I
directly contacted Amit.

they are not bad, i got very quick service, i guess you are too picky

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ExtraB

17 years ago

I'd love to try PPC Ninja but I have a jacked up credit card from following advice from my PPC Classroom membership.

I picked up some gold nuggets from PPC Classroom but a lot of it is aimed at beginners. I really don't like the heavy focus on search network and ClickBank. Thats been beaten to death but is a good way to introduce newbies.

I have purchased many PPC type courses and had some success... thats why I am bummed at straying from what was working (only slightly) for me and started following the go wide not deep strategy from PPC classroom. You can burn a lot of cash that way and risk not finding the profitable keywords... that's what happend to me.

Anyway, I'm in a mastermind group and the game plan is changing. Not too mention I have more time thanks to layoffs from my day job. This will allow me the time to do what I have learned and taught about myself over the last ten years. I think I could finally break through and hope other Warriors in here will too.

My only regret is that I can't afford PPC Ninja at the moment.

But out of curiosity how does it compare to Commission Blueprint and Affiliate Rock Star Status?

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17 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeC

I was wondering if anyone has bought PPC Ninja being promoted by Michael Campbell and if it covers the same amterial as PPC Classroom or uses different strategies

you are talking about founder of sixfigureyearly program -michell campell?

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winsonlim

17 years ago

Hi Everyone,
I have bought PPC Ninja last month and sign up to PPC Classroom 2.0 3 days ago. I have look through the members area in PPC Classroom 2.0 and the Forum. It is of Superb quality, rich in information and provide fast support.

PPC Ninja course is a good one and it is very straight forward and straight to the point. It is not information overloaded and which helps you to focus on just reading chapters by chapters and watching each video on how to do it.

Basically, it is a step by step guide to help you in dominating Google Content Network. The only one disadvantage about PPCninja is the weak support they provide. They will only reply your emails after 3-4 days, sometimes one week. It is a good product but with a weak and less responsive support, it is basically leaving your customer to figure out how to use the system and let him die.

PPC Classroom 2.0 and Forum provides a comprehensive PPC course for both beginners and advanced marketers. The training they provide is amazing and incredible. Their support is top notch. Their forum is one of a kind, of a world class standard.

You will never regret signing up to their membership. I heard they are closing soon. I think you left 1 hour and 30 mins before they close their doors again. And it is priced at $9.95 for the next 1 hour and 30 mins.

The one disadvantage about PPC classroom 2.0 is the price. After the first month, you will be billed $97 every month. Considering the top notch training and support and forum, there is no need to reconsider to sign up to PPC Classroom 2.0.

IMPORTANT: I know of a Niche Membership which is of Great Value. They do 98% work for you and you make 100% profit. The link is at my signature.

I have created 4 videos to show you around the members area:
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hotstarpromo1

17 years ago

What do these programs do ? somebody please inform me ! Thanks

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GeorgR.

17 years ago

PPC Ninja is *excellent* - this man knows what he's talking about. One of the best PPC/Adwords books i read, hands down. Highly, highly recommended!

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Matrix9162 17 years ago

Just curious, how many modules are there in total for PPC Classroom 2.0?
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FelixS 17 years ago

Hi Everybody,
Greetings. My first post here.

I've checked out PPC Classroom3 and it looks Ok eventhough the site homepage is a bit confusing (more shop than classroom!).

But what happened to PPC Ninja ? Couldn't get to the site, I got the Apache error page for a few days now. Has PPC Classroom put it to sleep alread ?

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sridhar

17 years ago

I know this thread is on PPC Ninja vs PPC Classroom.

How does PPC Formula 2 compare against these (not considering the price of each course)?

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Sancho Sanches

17 years ago

What about PPC Rocky and PPC Samurai?

PPC Rocky starts to slow down on the 5th run but if I leave it long enough it starts to gain momentum again, although sloppily. PPC Samurai I haven't tried but I've heard that when it detects a Google slap coming and there's nothing it can do it just sort of turns on itself and won't work anymore, that's why I didn't bother with it. Sounds useless.

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Gee S

17 years ago

I see you can't pay via Paypal for PPC Classroom...bit of a bummer that is.

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