Personalized Profit Pipeline

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Has anyone invested in or had experience with Michael Cheney's Personalized Profit Pipeline marketed with Chris Freville (and possibly others)?

It is a DFY website in the "business owner" niche (not just IM) where they provide hosting (incl) but also personalized website with logo etc; front-end product; upsell, downsell, (for which you get 100% profits) and finally a pricey ($3000 I think) backend coaching program for which you get a one-time $500 commission.

Obviously they support you with traffic training on free and paid sources because you are helping him sell the coaching program. Copy says that you do not have to promote the coaching if you don't want to; however it sounds as though they don't update the site ("why change something that is perfect?") and that you probably can't either.

It's an interesting business model; a bit pricey at $497 one time or 2 pmts $297. My concern would be inability to add to or update website....Any thoughts or experience? Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author jendg
    I have also seen the sales pitch...interested in what others have experienced in this system.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Williams
    My take on it is that you are basically paying them to set up and use their sales funnel and to be someone else's affiliate.

    This is fine if you don't know how to set up your own funnels. They are handing you a fully set up sales funnel and offering to help you drive traffic to it.

    The real question is how well exactly does it convert?

    Also it would be nice to have a closer look at the front end and back end products before making a buying decision. Finally, the commissions on the back end product looks a bit low.
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    • Profile picture of the author inglis
      Hi Oliver, the 4 products for only $10 dollars on the front-end are well worth their weight in gold (and then some!)

      You can see the line-up of Michael's awesome products for $97 on the OTO page - hit "No thanks" and the most expensive product in the line-up is taken away with a big red line through it to reveal the new $47 downsell.

      To make a well informed decision, the OTO videos have Michael sitting in front of you giving concise explanations on exactly what you're getting and why... It's very polished, professional, and a great sales funnel to just go through and study on its own merit.

      Yes, I agree the commissions on the high-end/back-end would be low if it was a software/electronic product, however, with one-to-one coaching to become a millionaire there's a LOT of personal time and effort required; whatever Michael and his staff make on top of the $500 is fair enough in my eyes.

      Regards,
      Paul Inglis

      P.S. I will return with conversion stats when I get some for you Oliver.

      Originally Posted by Oliver Williams View Post

      My take on it is that you are basically paying them to set up and use their sales funnel and to be someone else's affiliate.

      This is fine if you don't know how to set up your own funnels. They are handing you a fully set up sales funnel and offering to help you drive traffic to it.

      The real question is how well exactly does it convert?

      Also it would be nice to have a closer look at the front end and back end products before making a buying decision. Finally, the commissions on the back end product looks a bit low.
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    Michael Cheney is one of the marketers I look up, I am part of the millionaire warrior coaching and was banging my head against the desk trying to come up with a good product to push (I'm mostly and affiliate marketer and pulled some non IM products with little success) when this offer come to my inbox.

    After the pitchenar, Got this last night. today I've already have my sales funnel ready to drive traffic to it, everything is rebranded with your name and website, looks like a really good product to sell. Is perfect to try some new (at least for me) traffic sources and see how good convert the offer.

    There is a whole module about driving traffic using directories, facebook, videos, articles, etc. However some of the videos are a bit outdated like the one that teach you how to create a group on facebook (guess is called fan pages now... yeah I know)

    There are daily traffic tasks on your email (which is well... the best way to follow steps because they force you every day to take action)

    There is a traffic boost consultation (you can have access to this after a month using the system)

    Using these basic traffic strategies mixed with your own traffic kung fu I think this may work really well... This month I put my chips on this one.
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    • Profile picture of the author inglis
      Hi neodarth,

      The training videos aren't outdated, there's a massive difference between making a FB Group and a FB Page (used to be called a Fan Page).

      For one example, as an Admin, we can't modify a FB Group with special apps like we can do with a FB Page.

      Regards,
      Paul Inglis

      Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

      Michael Cheney is one of the marketers I look up, I am part of the millionaire warrior coaching and was banging my head against the desk trying to come up with a good product to push (I'm mostly and affiliate marketer and pulled some non IM products with little success) when this offer come to my inbox.

      After the pitchenar, Got this last night. today I've already have my sales funnel ready to drive traffic to it, everything is rebranded with your name and website, looks like a really good product to sell. Is perfect to try some new (at least for me) traffic sources and see how good convert the offer.

      There is a whole module about driving traffic using directories, facebook, videos, articles, etc. However some of the videos are a bit outdated like the one that teach you how to create a group on facebook (guess is called fan pages now... yeah I know)

      There are daily traffic tasks on your email (which is well... the best way to follow steps because they force you every day to take action)

      There is a traffic boost consultation (you can have access to this after a month using the system)

      Using these basic traffic strategies mixed with your own traffic kung fu I think this may work really well... This month I put my chips on this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author AbdullahKaragoz
    It says only 5 left.

    If it still says "only 5 left" after some days after my purchase, then I'll just ask for refund right away.

    I just don't like marketers that use "fake pressing" sales tactics like "X spots left" and "4 days left", when in reality there are endless spots left and the product is available every day.
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    • Profile picture of the author inglis
      Hi AbdullahKaragoz,

      Agreed. I don't like it when people use fake tactics either; they give marketing a worse name.

      Michael Cheney is proud to be a marketer and does use scarcity tactics (among many other tactics) like any great marketer should; because scarcity tactics work extremely well... However, Michael didn't use fake tactics; I know for a fact they were 100% legit.

      Regards,
      Paul Inglis

      Originally Posted by AbdullahKaragoz View Post

      It says only 5 left.

      If it still says "only 5 left" after some days after my purchase, then I'll just ask for refund right away.

      I just don't like marketers that use "fake pressing" sales tactics like "X spots left" and "4 days left", when in reality there are endless spots left and the product is available every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author inglis
    Hi Athena,

    Yes, Michael Cheney asked a one-time $497 fee (or a little more for split pay) to be one of the 35 PPP owners.

    PPP owners earn, straight to their paypal, a 100% commission on the $9.99 admin/setup costs when someone orders the free package containing 4 of Michael's flagship products (worth $271.91).

    Next, there's also 100% commissions paid straight to PPP owners paypal account for both the $97 upsell, and the $47 downsell.

    Next, all sales are followed-up with a phone call by Michael's personal staff and PPP owners receive a further $500 when someone orders a top-end, one-to-one, millionaire coaching programme.

    Apparently many man hours and dollars went into testing the sales funnel and it's finally at a stage where Michael is more than happy with its conversion rate.

    Instead of having to go through the Warrior Millionaire WSO Michael recently released, the PPP is a shortcut to having a pre-made, pre-tested, successful sales funnel.

    With 100% commissions on all font-end sales and both OTO's, plus a further $500 on the high-end/back-end, without having to do any follow-up or customer service it is a good deal at the $497 - - just one high-end/back-end sale and the pipeline more than pays for itself.

    The traffic videos, partnering with Michael Cheney, and everything else are simply cherries on top.

    Inability to update PPP sites themselves isn't a problem; with a proven system there's no need... There's always room to buy another domain name to feed the PPP site.

    Regards,
    Paul Inglis


    Originally Posted by athenajw View Post

    Has anyone invested in or had experience with Michael Cheney's Personalized Profit Pipeline marketed with Chris Freville (and possibly others)?

    It is a DFY website in the "business owner" niche (not just IM) where they provide hosting (incl) but also personalized website with logo etc; front-end product; upsell, downsell, (for which you get 100% profits) and finally a pricey ($3000 I think) backend coaching program for which you get a one-time $500 commission.

    Obviously they support you with traffic training on free and paid sources because you are helping him sell the coaching program. Copy says that you do not have to promote the coaching if you don't want to; however it sounds as though they don't update the site ("why change something that is perfect?") and that you probably can't either.

    It's an interesting business model; a bit pricey at $497 one time or 2 pmts $297. My concern would be inability to add to or update website....Any thoughts or experience? Thanks!
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