PPC Coach or Wealthy Affiliate?

Yep it's a tough game but I make a profit from PPC on all 3 of the major networks and for a number of products.

What you think or don't think is entirely academic, in God we trust, everybody else must provide data :-) You stated it was going to be the no1 product in the Diet catagory on CB which is, as I already stated gross speculation and hype.

You have no evidence to support such statements, I simply commented on such a rash statement . Your opinion seems to be somewhat emotive rather than driven by data or fact.

No wrong about it, I didn't state all vendors. IF we are to converse it needs to be based on what has actually been said, not on taking something marginally out of context for effect.

The point I am making is that you seem to think they are doing you some huge favour by providing tools to sell their product, we have a difference of perspective. Providing every tool possible, including keywords and infact in some cases entire manuals on PPC and how to use it for their product is what CB vendors in this niche do.

My point it simple, you stipulated people are making $300 per day with the product as if that was some kind of evidence of it's amazing conversion rate or how superior the affiliate tools are etc.

I simply pointed out the reverse of the situation for balance, just because some affiliates are doing $300 a day, they are the massive minority looking at the WA forums, a very small minority , the forum is full of people presumably with WA training not doing very well at all, infact losing money, I'm just bringing some balance to what seems to be rather an emotive subject to you, I certainly dont disagree in many ways.

For the record, the very best affiliates in the diet industry , especially those selling Truth About Abs, FL4I, or BTF are doing in excess of $2000 a day. some much much more,. You can make money with STF of course, like any other diet product, but there's nothing to suggest it's somehow any better than any other at this point. If it was I would already have done a solo to over 130,000 targeted people, but I have not.

I'm not sure how many diet products you have promoted or your understanding of the niche or indeed marketing CB products, but had you spent any time doing so, you would know that what the guys are providing are just normal affiliate tools, there's nothing new that has not been done a million times before and yes I am already setup and promote numerous diet products already.

Actually ,the landing page generator based on sub niches is very cute, they have gone overboard on that one, but again they are not doing you some huge favour, they are doing it to maximise sales of their product.

If they were providing all these tools for somebody elses product from the goodness of their hearts to help you promote a product they had done the keyword research on etc, now that would be incredibly impressive, this however is just a savvy CB vendor giving you decent tools to maximise their own revenue.

There's is nothing new in their tools

Overall PDF manual of the program
PPC Keywords lists
Landing pages (not even squeeze pages which would be better)
Ebook covers/images etc

Sorry it's not new, it's nicely presented but that's it. You will find the top vendors, especially in the Diet & Fitness catagory do the same.

Oh yes and by the way, I noticed that their dynamicly created hoplinks don't remove hoplink data when it reaches the pitch page which is a serious no, no, but I presume they will rectify that.

I didn't say there was. I was simply pointing out that there's nothing surprising about them giving away the keywords to the product they want you to sell. They also clearly state to only use those as a test bed and that they are not tried and tested, they are not even giving you keywords they know convert, it's just a list , this is 100% standard practise . No offence but with the external Google tool, Wordtracker and a couple of others I could whip up the same long tails in minutes, infact I have done many many times for numerous CB diet products.

To which I agreed, and already stated it's savvy and sensible, don't know how else I can put it. Again lets try and just deal with any issues of disagreement, don't know about you , but I'm quite busy.

Such issues.. lost me.


Many points we seem to agree on actually although your're making mountain out of a molehill, IMO. Other "points" are largely moot .I do hope this isn't a pointless going around in circles type discussion, I'lll be way to busy to entertain it and as you have 2 years of training via the WA, I would presume your far to busy making amazing money to be going around in circles as well.

I don't have any issue with what the lads are doing, but I'm not emotionally attached and therefore do not feel the need to make statements based on thin air nor do I have the perspective that they are doing me some huge favour by providing affiliate tools to sell their product, sorry, that's where never the twain shall meet.

There's nothing here that would benefit from being private, best the discussion is available to all.

Experience is a relative term, suffice to say I know this niche and make a decent living from it, however in the scheme of things compared to some of my colleagues who own the top 3 grav rated products in two of the biggest catagories on CB, what I do is chump change despite it being over six figures per annum, so yes I'm "experienced" , but at the same time a relative newbie compared to those doing $500,00 - $750k pa annum or more gross -- keeping it real and all.

Back at ya and best of luck selling STF, perhaps you can let us know how much profit you make on it this month, might help the guys at WA grab a few more members, you can be living proof of the products validity and WA's techniques.

I have more than enough diet products I promote right now, so it's not for me, but I hope it has you have the success with it that believe it's destined for.

On reflection and after having spent more time at the WA this morning I decided to cancel, while they have done a professional job, I think I agree with the previous poster there's not enough to make it make sense for me personally.

No offense to the lads running it, I think they have done a decent job, they are ethical, this comment shouldn't put other people off joining, it may well be suitable for those new to IM, but there's nothing there I haven't already seen a million times before.