Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...??

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EDIT - GOT MY HANDS ON A COPY AT 6PM EST

The only reason I ask is I got in on time. Entered all my credit card details and the order button didn't work???

Anyone else have this problem...

Who got a copy then??

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  • Profile picture of the author Nigel Greaves
    Ross,

    While I can't answer your question this thread might throw some light on it for you:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ing-2-0-a.html

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  • Profile picture of the author mogili
    Well, I've received several emails to download the copy. I thought it was free. I'm looking for more information about the ebook. I prefer to wait for some more time.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffreyM
    Still gat 48mins before Butterfly Marketing 2.0 is available.
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  • Profile picture of the author Powder_Skier
    I got Mike's email 10 minutes before the time - but I was waiting to go through another affiliate. So no, I didn't get one. It's a shame that someone as "successful" as Mike can't bother to go through a company that has sufficient server capacity. This has happened before, when he totally oversells a launch. He gets you all excited, then his servers crash. Sort of like selling the last seat on an airplane 1,000 times.

    I guess I should have just screwed Mikes affiliate and gone directly to Mikes page when I could, but that's not how I work. Silly me!
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    • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
      Originally Posted by Powder_Skier View Post

      I got Mike's email 10 minutes before the time - but I was waiting to go through another affiliate. So no, I didn't get one. It's a shame that someone as "successful" as Mike can't bother to go through a company that has sufficient server capacity. This has happened before, when he totally oversells a launch. He gets you all excited, then his servers crash. Sort of like selling the last seat on an airplane 1,000 times.

      I guess I should have just screwed Mikes affiliate and gone directly to Mikes page when I could, but that's not how I work. Silly me!
      Well, that's not a silly my friend. It's good to give someone to earn, it's helps especially in current recession.
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    • Profile picture of the author Powder_Skier
      Originally Posted by Powder_Skier View Post

      I got Mike's email 10 minutes before the time - but I was waiting to go through another affiliate. So no, I didn't get one. It's a shame that someone as "successful" as Mike can't bother to go through a company that has sufficient server capacity. This has happened before, when he totally oversells a launch. He gets you all excited, then his servers crash. Sort of like selling the last seat on an airplane 1,000 times.

      I guess I should have just screwed Mikes affiliate and gone directly to Mikes page when I could, but that's not how I work. Silly me!
      I was FINALLY able to purchase my copy just now. I'm not sure why there are always problems with Mike's big launches (except just about everyone on the planet wants in!), but all's well that ends well. To Mikes credit, he's keeping the order lines open for an additional 48 hours - even said he'd make more copies if he had to - which means that more than 5,000 copies of BM2 will probably be shipped.

      I'm very excited to be geting this calibar of marketing information, even with the frustrations trying to order - and for just shipping and handling - amazing! Thanks Mike, you really are one of the good guys!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
    Apparently only 58 people got in before the melt down... whoopss!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kris Turner
    I didn't really know what it was until I got Frank Kern's email just now revealing what you get.

    I knew right away I wasn't interested.

    I'm getting pretty tired of all these free offers where you just pay shipping and then get put into continuity. I can't wait for the next marketing fad to hit to stop all of them.

    It also lowers the perceived value of everything. I took up Dan Kennedy on an offer like this a few months back. I literally threw everything he sent me out after skimming it for 5 minutes.

    I know that if this box of stuff turned up from Mike Filsaime it would sit there for months untouched, and then get thrown out.

    That's not even worth shipping.
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  • Profile picture of the author sublime-products
    Looks like they're having some major issues - I'm glad I don't host with their hosting company.

    Anyway, no they're letting in people by the letter of surname, A-F right now. I hope by the time they get to M that there's a few copies left!
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  • Profile picture of the author Pat Spence
    I couldn't get the site to load at all and gave up. Now I know why.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I didn't even know there was a BM2.

    What's the difference from BM1?
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    nothing to see here.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      I didn't even know there was a BM2.

      What's the difference from BM1?
      A lot of new features including one click upsells... Not to mention the software is Free

      Mike Hill
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  • Profile picture of the author leschwaar
    Originally Posted by Ross Kenny View Post

    The only reason I ask is I got in on time. Entered all my credit card details and the order button didn't work???

    Anyone else have this problem...

    Who got a copy then??

    I believe that 1000 people have gotten through already. I've been watching the Ustream chat for about twenty minutes now and have learned the following:

    1. Mike will be checking for duplicate orders, so once the order page is up again, you might consider putting your order through? I would ask that on the chat at the order page though, because Mike's got a couple of his staff answering questions there.
    2. Because of his servers dying and all the commotion, the course will be available for two or so days now and everyone will be allowed. They will make as many extra copies as necessary. So don't worry about them running out any more.
    3. The order page is supposed to be up and functioning between 3-7PM EST today.

    Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikefilsaime
    2044 orders made it. Many people saved the order page and ordered...so we will make the page live in a few hours so more can buy..

    Thanks
    Mike

    PS - we will produce more than 5000 units if needed
    be since many had issues ordering. We will stay open
    until Thursday to take orders, so everyone that orders
    will get one if that is what I have to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author sailorgil
      I just received an email as most of you did, but when I went to site, big problem melt down I guess. Was a note on sight that said it would be back up at 4:00 pm local time and would stay up as long as necessary. NO 5000 copy limit..
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      • Profile picture of the author lrjd
        Originally Posted by sailorgil View Post

        I just received an email as most of you did, but when I went to site, big problem melt down I guess. Was a note on sight that said it would be back up at 4:00 pm local time and would stay up as long as necessary. NO 5000 copy limit..
        I'm going to wait and try after 4:00. Maybe things will be easier.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
      Mike,

      When will 2.0 be accessible through the Admin panel in the current software?


      Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

      2044 orders made it. Many people saved the order page and ordered...so we will make the page live in a few hours so more can buy..

      Thanks
      Mike

      PS - we will produce more than 5000 units if needed
      be since many had issues ordering. We will stay open
      until Thursday to take orders, so everyone that orders
      will get one if that is what I have to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by mikefilsaime View Post

      2044 orders made it. Many people saved the order page and ordered...so we will make the page live in a few hours so more can buy..

      Thanks
      Mike

      PS - we will produce more than 5000 units if needed
      be since many had issues ordering. We will stay open
      until Thursday to take orders, so everyone that orders
      will get one if that is what I have to do.

      Check your PM box. I just put an urgent message for your eyes only in there. It might save you some grief down the road.
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  • Profile picture of the author James12C
    Ummm - a disaster. Server meltdown, blank order pages, finally an order page that crashed in quick succession... if I was an affiliate pushg this I'd be mad as hell... Mike looks foolish.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Toder
      I am very confused. I received an email that I got a copt of BF, but I didn't get to the receipt page on the web.

      Also, I can't log into the BF web site as it says it doesn't have my user name.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rachel Incoll
        Originally Posted by Bryan Toder View Post

        I am very confused. I received an email that I got a copt of BF, but I didn't get to the receipt page on the web.

        Also, I can't log into the BF web site as it says it doesn't have my user name.
        Yes, I got the same thing. I think the server just timed out/crashed before the receipt page displayed.

        I can't login to the site either though but received the email saying thankyou for purchasing so I assumed I had a copy.

        Just a bit concerned though as I notice that no money's been taken from my credit card so I'm not too sure now?:confused:
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        • Profile picture of the author lrjd
          Now they say that they will go live at 6:00pm.
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  • Profile picture of the author melmilletics
    I got a copy- after many refreshes of the page-
    Once they finally got the glitches out, i was able to get my copy- and got the 'continuity' package too-
    I'm cool with that. If I'm going to study Mike's stuff - I may as well have access to everything.

    I'm about to take a quantum leap forward in my biz. Grateful for the continued inspiration that education flames.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
      Do they give you an instant download of the software as well as the shipment?


      Originally Posted by melmilletics View Post

      I got a copy- after many refreshes of the page-
      Once they finally got the glitches out, i was able to get my copy- and got the 'continuity' package too-
      I'm cool with that. If I'm going to study Mike's stuff - I may as well have access to everything.

      I'm about to take a quantum leap forward in my biz. Grateful for the continued inspiration that education flames.
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      • Profile picture of the author leschwaar
        Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

        Do they give you an instant download of the software as well as the shipment?

        I asked this of one of Mike's people on the ustream chat, and they didn't answer earlier-- I just bought it now, and there's no software download in the member's area. I'm pretty disappointed-- I was hoping to use the software for an upcoming launch of mine, but it looks like I might not have the stuff set up in time to do that.

        I'm really hoping this thing is worth my time. I'm really sick of crappy, inadequate softwares/scripts and stupid flimsy newsletters...
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        • Profile picture of the author mikefilsaime
          Originally Posted by leschwaar View Post

          I asked this of one of Mike's people on the ustream chat, and they didn't answer earlier-- I just bought it now, and there's no software download in the member's area. I'm pretty disappointed-- I was hoping to use the software for an upcoming launch of mine, but it looks like I might not have the stuff set up in time to do that.

          I'm really hoping this thing is worth my time. I'm really sick of crappy, inadequate softwares/scripts and stupid flimsy newsletters...
          No we ship it to you. Just like we do when you buy it for $1997.00

          I would be happy to have offered you a Digital Version for your launch, but really,
          after reading your posts... I see no reason to offer any extension of my hand to
          you over and above my offer.

          Thanks,

          Mike Filsaime
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheila
    Andy,
    BM2 also includes some web 2.0 functionality that wasn't in BM1 - things like affiliates being able to integrate campaigns with twitter - stuff like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author danemorgan
    Money went through on my credit card, but I can't log in to the page the subsequent email told me to log in to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Sanchez
    So I don't get how you can charge shipping and handling for a digital product. Is he sending out a box?
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  • Profile picture of the author leschwaar
    And to continue my rant, once you get inside, you find out that you'll have to pay $300 for any form of tech support. I find that just a wee bit underhanded, seeing as the software isn't really plug-and-play and will take some time to set up-- a lot of people are going to have trouble with this. Though I can understand why he did it, I think charging for tech support is pretty darn cheap.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikefilsaime
      Originally Posted by leschwaar View Post

      And to continue my rant, once you get inside, you find out that you'll have to pay $300 for any form of tech support. I find that just a wee bit underhanded, seeing as the software isn't really plug-and-play and will take some time to set up-- a lot of people are going to have trouble with this. Though I can understand why he did it, I think charging for tech support is pretty darn cheap.
      It does say this on the order page.
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      Addendum To Support TOS For This Free Offer. You will only be provided support in the following ways. 24 hour helpdesk support for issues such as lost passwords will be provided. (There is no live tech support for this product provided by us.) You will be given access to install videos, admin panel HOW-TO videos, and strategy videos as well as marketing videos. There are even videos for newbies new to marketing There is no question you may have that the videos can not help you with. Additionally, you will get access to a members area forum for peer to peer help. In this forum, you can search our archives for almost any question you may have and it is sure to have been asked before and replied to by one of our support team. This will allow you to see the answer to your question right on the spot in the members forum. You will NOT have access to any tech support for this free product. As you can imagine, support was a major task when we sold 1000 in 5 days for $997 back in January of 2006. Our team can handle normal rates of new customers but not 5000+ people that get access all the same day. You will be given an option for tech support access for only $300 in the members area if you prefer. Even with this tech support, it may take 3-5 business days for someone to respond during the initial promotion.
      =========================== read it here https://butterflymarketing.com/free/...yment.page.php at the PAGE BOTTOM

      So...
      #1 - It is NOT once you get inside.

      #2 - It is not ANY FORM of support.

      So your post is misleading in both those ways. We provide tons of videos to walk
      you through everything you need to know and a forum to search for previous
      questions and replies as will as help desk support for purchase info as well.

      We could not offer "tech" support for 5000 free members, it would not be possible
      and they would not feel the need to go thru the videos before just hitting the desk.

      If you look at Amazon Web Severs, you have to pay $100 PER MONTH for silver
      support, or $400 per month for Gold support.

      Guys, this is business. Time for many of us to realize this. Buy from DELL and Gateway
      and they will charge you for "TECH SUPPORT"

      People like Techsmith Camtasia and Adobe always make you PAY for upgrades
      in software but the IM industry has been slow to follow this method.

      Again, we are running a business and this sets expectations as if we did not do
      this we would FLOOD ourselves with an impossible task to do support for 5000
      free customers.

      So this allows the person that needs serious attention to be hears in a timely
      fashion.

      We do offer many forms of support, but if you need one of my 3 tech support
      guys, you can have it for a small premium and not have to wait in a queue of
      dozens of support requests that are already in the help videos.

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author ChrisRuane
        Well it has certainly been a popular offer. There is no way Mike could offer free support to that many people. In fact, if he turned up at your house and personally sorted it out for you, someone, somewhere would have something else to moan about!
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    • Profile picture of the author dmag1
      Originally Posted by leschwaar View Post

      And to continue my rant, once you get inside, you find out that you'll have to pay $300 for any form of tech support. I find that just a wee bit underhanded, seeing as the software isn't really plug-and-play and will take some time to set up-- a lot of people are going to have trouble with this. Though I can understand why he did it, I think charging for tech support is pretty darn cheap.

      Are you serious about this, $300 for any help?

      Good grief.

      The incredible hassle today because he won't pay for the right server to handle this kind of launch, and then to find out that it's not anywhere close to plug 'n' play -- with big buck tech support needed.

      Don't think so.

      Who needs a "free" product that will potentially cost a ton of money to get right?

      Mike's a marketer and obviously a successful one, but he's not a software producer. I've seen a big review on this product -- a straight one -- and the guy said the software is difficult unless you know your stuff and can code in multiple formats like HTML, PHP, etc. Anybody else is going to get tagged for that $300 tech charge.

      The question is, do you get hit for $300 once until it works, or $300 each time?

      A real software company puts out plug 'n' play apps, or very close to it. Wordpress, Joomla, etc., are usable out of the box. This is the game Mike is in, making sites that sell.

      Obviously, Joomla and WP don't offer the marketing stuff he's so good at.

      Why can't there be one solution that's both easy and full of the features we need???

      I would have rather paid for the right product, rather than get something that needs tech tweaks from the getgo.

      Just another day in the IM world.
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      • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
        Originally Posted by dmag1 View Post

        Are you serious about this, $300 for any help?

        Good grief.

        The incredible hassle today because he won't pay for the right server to handle this kind of launch, and then to find out that it's not anywhere close to plug 'n' play -- with big buck tech support needed.

        Don't think so.

        Who needs a "free" product that will potentially cost a ton of money to get right?

        Mike's a marketer and obviously a successful one, but he's not a software producer. I've seen a big review on this product -- a straight one -- and the guy said the software is difficult unless you know your stuff and can code in multiple formats like HTML, PHP, etc. Anybody else is going to get tagged for that $300 tech charge.

        The question is, do you get hit for $300 once until it works, or $300 each time?

        A real software company puts out plug 'n' play apps, or very close to it. Wordpress, Joomla, etc., are usable out of the box. This is the game Mike is in, making sites that sell.

        Obviously, Joomla and WP don't offer the marketing stuff he's so good at.

        Why can't there be one solution that's both easy and full of the features we need???

        I would have rather paid for the right product, rather than get something that needs tech tweaks from the getgo.

        Just another day in the IM world.
        All I know is html and I managed to build several successful and profitable butterfly sites.

        The only money I have spent on my butterfly sites is for graphics.

        Everything else came free - especially all of the viral traffic.

        Even if you do have to spend $300 to get tech support, at least you got some powerful software and marketing concepts for free.

        I made $300 at least 200 times with just the OTOs from my Butterfly sites.

        Plus there will be plenty of help from other members in the forum, so you'll be alright.

        I'll probably be hanging out in there to help some peeps.

        Hope this helps
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      • Profile picture of the author jlandells
        Originally Posted by dmag1 View Post

        I would have rather paid for the right product, rather than get something that needs tech tweaks from the getgo.
        My take on this is that if you want the free software, then you should be prepared for one of the following:
        • To be able to get it working to your satisfaction yourself (i.e. learn PHP)
        • To have access to a techie who can help you for less money than Mike is charging for support
        • To pay the $300 for Mike's support and to be happy that you've saved $1697 on a product that you can use to massively increase your income!
        Whatever you think of Mike Filsaime, he's running a business - not a charity. He even said that he's doing this to get us all to try his newsletter. I know that I saw his old one, which I wasn't impressed with, but am willing to take a look at this new one before I decide whether to cancel. Right now though, I've paid my shipping and have my finger poised over the "cancel" button...!

        However, I took up this offer not for the continuity, but because I've been desperate to get hold of the BM script for a few projects that I'd been unable to implement without something like it, and couldn't justify the outlay for it for a site that wasn't core to my main business. Since I'm a techie though, I'm extremely happy to get it for just shipping and am confident in my own abilities to get it up and running.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brad Lindsay
        Originally Posted by dmag1 View Post

        Are you serious about this, $300 for any help?

        Good grief.

        The incredible hassle today because he won't pay for the right server to handle this kind of launch, and then to find out that it's not anywhere close to plug 'n' play -- with big buck tech support needed.

        Don't think so.

        Who needs a "free" product that will potentially cost a ton of money to get right?

        Mike's a marketer and obviously a successful one, but he's not a software producer. I've seen a big review on this product -- a straight one -- and the guy said the software is difficult unless you know your stuff and can code in multiple formats like HTML, PHP, etc. Anybody else is going to get tagged for that $300 tech charge.

        The question is, do you get hit for $300 once until it works, or $300 each time?

        A real software company puts out plug 'n' play apps, or very close to it. Wordpress, Joomla, etc., are usable out of the box. This is the game Mike is in, making sites that sell.

        Obviously, Joomla and WP don't offer the marketing stuff he's so good at.

        Why can't there be one solution that's both easy and full of the features we need???

        I would have rather paid for the right product, rather than get something that needs tech tweaks from the getgo.

        Just another day in the IM world.

        I would suggest you read Mike Filsaime's post above with regards to support for the Butterfly Marketing Software. You wouldn't expect anyone who is generously providing you with FREE access to a valuable and potentially life changing course to also put on and pay for potentially tens of support staff (maybe for months on end) to answer questions that many people will ask because they couldn't be bothered to work through the free help videos would you? Remember this course normally sells for $1997!

        As Mike Filsaime states in his post earlier in this thread, there are tons of help videos available in the members area. These are step-by-step walk through videos that takes you through the complete installation of the software script on your web server through to designing and creating your first homepage!

        As any web designer/developer will tell you, even though you have WYSIWYG tools like Front Page and Dreamweaver for creating your web site, it's useful to have even a basic knowledge of HTML. The videos walks you through what you need to do to get your site up and running. You definately don't need to know PHP!

        You mentioned Joomla but have you ever tried to set up and use Joomla? It has a steep learning curve! I have a commercial web site built with Joomla and it took me quite some time to get my head around it and get my site set up as I wanted it. And I had no walk-through help videos or technical support to call on. Where do you get free technical support from dedicated live persons for Joomla?

        The Butterfly Marketing Software script is by no means perfect, but it does a great job of what it was designed for and it can be a life changing tool if you follow the strategies in the course and you take action and follow through as many has attested to.

        As with everything in business, not every project you embark on will succeed. If you're committed to being successful, Butterfly Marketing can help you to get there. You have only to look at the many success stories.
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      • Profile picture of the author mitoshthewarrior
        Originally Posted by dmag1 View Post

        Are you serious about this, $300 for any help?

        Good grief.

        The incredible hassle today because he won't pay for the right server to handle this kind of launch, and then to find out that it's not anywhere close to plug 'n' play -- with big buck tech support needed.

        Don't think so.

        Who needs a "free" product that will potentially cost a ton of money to get right?

        Mike's a marketer and obviously a successful one, but he's not a software producer. I've seen a big review on this product -- a straight one -- and the guy said the software is difficult unless you know your stuff and can code in multiple formats like HTML, PHP, etc. Anybody else is going to get tagged for that $300 tech charge.

        The question is, do you get hit for $300 once until it works, or $300 each time?

        A real software company puts out plug 'n' play apps, or very close to it. Wordpress, Joomla, etc., are usable out of the box. This is the game Mike is in, making sites that sell.

        Obviously, Joomla and WP don't offer the marketing stuff he's so good at.

        Why can't there be one solution that's both easy and full of the features we need???

        I would have rather paid for the right product, rather than get something that needs tech tweaks from the getgo.

        Just another day in the IM world.
        I have to agree with Mike here, you can't expect free support on a product he is giving away. I can't vouch for how easy to use it is as I haven't seen it myself, but but as Mike says, it is a business and support costs a lot of money. The only way to make money selling support is either charge by the hour/call or hope most people don't call for support. I just bought my parents each a new computer from HP, I put a 3 year support contract on each of them, which only cost $169. If even one thing happens you pretty much can consider they lost that $169 except for maybe a simple issue that can be solved in quick phone call.

        Don't like the offer, don't use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author leschwaar
    Originally Posted by smithy2009 View Post

    probely take agaes to turn up as well
    Probably, especially with them sending out 5000+ copies tomorrow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
    It's all go... I've succesfully completed the transaction... Now all I have to do is wait a month... Dam..!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rachel Incoll
    Cool...just put my order through again and even though I didn't get the receipt web page (crashed again - MySQL database error) I got a receipt through my email which I didn't get before, plus the money's come off my cc.
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  • Profile picture of the author MIB Mastermind
    I managed to get a copy through the early bird link must of been very lucky from what i have heard
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Caldbeck
    Howdy

    To expensive for my blood (and bank account) at this time of the month. Not saying it isn't worth the price, but if something is free it doesn't seem right to charge extra on the S/H. At least it looks like you have the option to opt out of the continuity part of the offer.

    After saying all that, if I get a check in the mail tomorrow, and it is still available, I'll probably buy it...LOL

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    Good luck with the launch, Mike. Hope it helps ya out!
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinhuang
    Managed to get in...but the email and password doesn't work at the members area. =(

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    • Profile picture of the author lrjd
      Originally Posted by alvinhuang View Post

      Managed to get in...but the email and password doesn't work at the members area. =(

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      I'm having the same problem.
      I even tried to get a temp password
      but system said it did not find my email.
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      • Profile picture of the author alvinhuang
        Originally Posted by lrjd View Post

        I'm having the same problem.
        I even tried to get a temp password
        but system said it did not find my email.
        Yeah same thing happened for me too. I guess the system is probably down due to launch, hopefully it'd work later on. =)

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        • Profile picture of the author lrjd
          Originally Posted by alvinhuang View Post

          Yeah same thing happened for me too. I guess the system is probably down due to launch, hopefully it'd work later on. =)

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          I sent in a support ticket. Haven't heard anything yet.
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          • Profile picture of the author Scofz
            Originally Posted by lrjd View Post

            I sent in a support ticket. Haven't heard anything yet.
            Same thing is happening for me. Do you have the URL where you submitted the ticket?
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        • Profile picture of the author Rachel Incoll
          Originally Posted by alvinhuang View Post

          Yeah same thing happened for me too. I guess the system is probably down due to launch, hopefully it'd work later on. =)

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          Have you checked your credit card to see if the payment has come off?

          The same thing happened to me when I first ordered - got an email saying thanks for ordering but no actual purchase receipt, couldn't log in to the members area & no money had come off my card.

          I tried to order it again a little while ago and this time I received an email purchase receipt, the money came off my card, plus my login details worked .

          I'm wondering if your order may not have gone through properly like it looks my first one didn't?
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          • Profile picture of the author lrjd
            Originally Posted by Rachel Incoll View Post

            Have you checked your credit card to see if the payment has come off?

            The same thing happened to me when I first ordered - got an email saying thanks for ordering but no actual purchase receipt, couldn't log in to the members area & no money had come off my card.

            I tried to order it again a little while ago and this time I received an email purchase receipt, the money came off my card, plus my login details worked .

            I'm wondering if your order may not have gone through properly like it looks my first one didn't?
            I checked and no the payment is not showing.
            I got an email saying I could expect to receive
            it at your doorstepwithin the next 10 - 14 days.
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            • Profile picture of the author lrjd
              I'm going to try ordering again and see what happens.
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          • Profile picture of the author lrjd
            Originally Posted by Rachel Incoll View Post

            Have you checked your credit card to see if the payment has come off?

            The same thing happened to me when I first ordered - got an email saying thanks for ordering but no actual purchase receipt, couldn't log in to the members area & no money had come off my card.

            I tried to order it again a little while ago and this time I received an email purchase receipt, the money came off my card, plus my login details worked .

            I'm wondering if your order may not have gone through properly like it looks my first one didn't?
            Rachel, you hit the nail on the head. I did like you said and everything worked fine. After I completed the first page then it went to the OTO page and then to the members area. Thanks alot for helping me out.
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            • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
              It'a all fine now.. It's been sorted.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mary Laine
            Yes, I saw that he had set up a chat area for the opening, and the people writing in were really complaining. There was one of Mikes workers there, Michelle, who they were really quite peeved with. Asked her to name who had made money with it, what was going on, Mike should be ashamed yadda yadda yadda.
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          • Profile picture of the author johnng
            I got my copy, now waiting for delivery. One thing for sure even if my order got screwed up, I am confident Mike will sort it out. I met the guide, he is genuine and his groups of people will eventually sort it out. My order ended in script error, but as soon as I Emailed, within minutes I was emailed back saying Mike knew of the problem and I would get my copy. It proved that even with Guru like Mike's stature, technology is just as unpredictable. I should know, I worked on computers since 1969 when I had to load a 16kbyte program - note 16kbyte not 16Meg Byte via a reel of paper tape 6 inches in diameter. One of the best trick was, it tended to stop with checksum error about 1/4 inch to complete loading! Wraaah! Good old days.
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          • Profile picture of the author James Blair
            You know, I normally stay out of rants and such, but you guys should really quit bashing Mike. This guy is basically giving away butterfly marketing, and more importantly, the BFM Script software. I mean, it's free besides the shipping and handling and he was even very forthcoming about being automatically enrolled in his newsletter, which, by the way is so freaking cheap it is silly. Like 39 bucks a month. If that isn't value, frankly, I just don't know what you guys perceive value to be. The world isn't just going to be handed to you on some silver platter so forget it.

            This is a great deal Mike and I for one very much appreciate it. I can't wait to put it to use and see what it can do for me.

            Oh and FYI guys, he even says that you can order BFM 2.0 for just the shipping charge, and cancel the newsletter membership and never even be charged. A 2000 dollar powerhouse tool for 29 bucks shipping. NO BRAINER.

            Anyway, sorry for that outburst I meant no harm... Just my opinion.

            Thanks guys,

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            I am still waiting for the announcement of the realese.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayhew
    I guess I ended up being one of the lucky one's

    Order went through & log-in works just fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashleybaker
    I grabbed my copy about 6 hours ago!

    I got a receipt but can't login :S
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  • Profile picture of the author Leigh Burke
    Hey folks,

    I am in Australia. I got the pre-launch email at 4am (I set my alarm ) I tried to order once and it failed, then tried again and got a receipt. So fingers crossed the package arrives.

    I am looking forward to implementing the script for 3 of my upcoming launches.

    Leigh.
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    PS - where are you guys trying to log into - can somebody post a URL? Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
    It should all be ok now.. Mike has promised to keep the order page open for 2 days so don't rush.. Wait for the calm..!!

    He's promised everyone a copy even if he has to order more than 5000 copies.

    How many Butterfly Marketing sites are we going to see now in 2009/10.. Going to be crazy I'm sure
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  • Profile picture of the author adslgeek
    Good god, what a load of old whiners!
    It is free.
    It was popular.
    Deal with it.

    Mike has a reputation in this industry that he has built up over many years, through putting out good content.

    There are many rich people as a result from Mike and from Butterfly Marketing from what I have read in the forums and seen in the videos. And there is enough evidence from what I have seen that Butterfly marketing does work the first time around for a heap of people.

    For all the whiners that are unhappy with receiving a $2000 product for $27 with no support then, go out think of a completely new system for promoting customers websites and online marketing, and pay for the development time out of your own pocket to build your own tools, setup relationships and a reputation with all the top marketers and then build up a JV partnership with the leaders in the industry, plan and execute from what I can see is a very succesful* product launch.

    THEN GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT AWAY WITH FREE SHIPPING / HANDLING AND SUPPORT.
    Let me know your domain name, and I will download it and then moan at your site cause it doesn't do X. It will be fun. :-)

    Me being a little cynical, I partially suspect that Mike may have not been troubled that the servers / bandwidth failed as it really added to the drama, and buzzworthiness of the launch. I am not saying he did or didn't plan the meltdown, I am just saying that measuring a successful launch by buzz, signups and profile, the way it panned out wasn't that bad. Either way, 45,000 more people get access to software that we may not have had access to.

    We (should) all be online marketers in here and I am sure most of us recognise all the use of common and succeful product launch strategies, we should be adult enough to understand what is going on, and I would hope admire it for the way it was handled.

    I am going to go back and wait for my CD, and feel grateful for all that Mike has done for all of us. If it hadn't crashed, then 5000 people would be happy, and 50,000 would be whining in the forums cause they missed out.

    Given that the page launching the site went down, I think it was prudent of Mike to post out a DVD pack to save impacts to the servers.

    On behalf of the 40,000 people that now DO get butterfly marketing, Mike I am bloody happy and think what you have done is awesome. Keep up the great work.

    Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Anderson
      Originally Posted by adslgeek View Post

      Good god, what a load of old whiners!
      It is free.
      It was popular.
      Deal with it.

      Mike has a reputation in this industry that he has built up over many years, through putting out good content.

      There are many rich people as a result from Mike and from Butterfly Marketing from what I have read in the forums and seen in the videos. And there is enough evidence from what I have seen that Butterfly marketing does work the first time around for a heap of people.

      For all the whiners that are unhappy with receiving a $2000 product for $27 with no support then, go out think of a completely new system for promoting customers websites and online marketing, and pay for the development time out of your own pocket to build your own tools, setup relationships and a reputation with all the top marketers and then build up a JV partnership with the leaders in the industry, plan and execute from what I can see is a very succesful* product launch.

      THEN GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT AWAY WITH FREE SHIPPING / HANDLING AND SUPPORT.
      Let me know your domain name, and I will download it and then moan at your site cause it doesn't do X. It will be fun. :-)

      Me being a little cynical, I partially suspect that Mike may have not been troubled that the servers / bandwidth failed as it really added to the drama, and buzzworthiness of the launch. I am not saying he did or didn't plan the meltdown, I am just saying that measuring a successful launch by buzz, signups and profile, the way it panned out wasn't that bad. Either way, 45,000 more people get access to software that we may not have had access to.

      We (should) all be online marketers in here and I am sure most of us recognise all the use of common and succeful product launch strategies, we should be adult enough to understand what is going on, and I would hope admire it for the way it was handled.

      I am going to go back and wait for my CD, and feel grateful for all that Mike has done for all of us. If it hadn't crashed, then 5000 people would be happy, and 50,000 would be whining in the forums cause they missed out.

      Given that the page launching the site went down, I think it was prudent of Mike to post out a DVD pack to save impacts to the servers.

      On behalf of the 40,000 people that now DO get butterfly marketing, Mike I am bloody happy and think what you have done is awesome. Keep up the great work.

      Cheers,
      ADSL geek
      Man....

      Thanks so much for posting that. I was reading through this series of posts and was shaking my head in disbelief of how UNGRATEFUL and assuming people can be.

      I was JUST about to say something until I saw your post. Well said my man.

      Of course this is a lesson in marketing. What a herd.

      Geeze guys...you try doing what Mike has done. You may not agree with everything he does or how he does it...and that's ok. But some of the comments I've seen above are completely ridiculous.
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  • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
    Can anyone explain what the tech support does? It seems contradictory to me, I sent a ticket into support because I don't get it...

    • And even though I will be eligible for Tech Support, this does not entitle me to custom program or any additional help other than what is already covered in the help videos and tech related threads in the private members forum
    I understand they won't cover customization, but what are you paying for if what they help you with is already covered in the videos?
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    • Profile picture of the author dmag1
      Just a couple of observations from someone who had never knowingly encountered Butterfly Marketing until a couple of days ago.

      I come out of Joomla and Wordpress environments where aesthetics count. The BFM sites I've now seen (probably 20 of them) while researching BFM aren't very pretty. No design awards for any of them. Not a one. Granted, they may make money in their niche and that's fine.

      Maybe I could get a designer to spiff up whatever BFM generates, I don't know. Proprietary site making software generally comes up short on looks because either numbers guys or geeks run the show. They never spend money on beautifying the product. This is the case with Site Build-It, XSitepro, Semiologic, and BFM. Just the way it is.

      Mine have to do both, make some money and look decent.

      So BFM probably won't work for me.

      The other thing is that, in looking at the back end in the videos supplied during the launch campaign, it seems that aMember or any other membership script would offer a lot more functionality. However, I'm not sure if they provide as many OTO and upsell opportunities.

      The technical downside is that Mike is not a software guy, he's a marketer who went out and paid for a coder or coders to develop the system. More than one person has said that it's not an easy system to use, and a person needs some coding skills to pull it off.

      If you don't have those and the videos and forum don't get it all done for you, get ready to pay for Mike's $300 tech support.

      HOWEVER, there may be a way for those who haven't bought it yet and are thinking of it. I got pitched by 7-8 marketers on this program, several with bonuses if I used their link. The one I think may be the most valuable is one I got from a search, a guy named John Thornhill in England, at this link:

      The PlanetSMS Blog - Brought To You By John Thornhill

      Thornhill offers a few items in a bonus package, and the most important is a video to show how to set up the system so it works right.

      He's got several BFM sites and says he knows how to do it.

      Here's the bottom line for me...

      I may buy from Thornhill's link, and then hold him to his promise to help with setup.

      If I do I'll try one site just to say I did, and that's probably it. What I hope to get from my $30 investment is Filsaime's marketing insight on the DVDs.

      One low-level idea that gives only marginal improvement is worth more than 30 bucks.

      What I'm risking is not a few dollars, but the hours I will invest in the DVDs. What if I spend 8-10 hours and come up dry? I think that's unlikely, given how many people here seem to respect the guy.

      Just my .02.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brad Lindsay
        Originally Posted by dmag1 View Post

        Just a couple of observations from someone who had never knowingly encountered Butterfly Marketing until a couple of days ago.

        I come out of Joomla and Wordpress environments where aesthetics count. The BFM sites I've now seen (probably 20 of them) while researching BFM aren't very pretty. No design awards for any of them. Not a one. Granted, they may make money in their niche and that's fine.

        Maybe I could get a designer to spiff up whatever BFM generates, I don't know. Proprietary site making software generally comes up short on looks because either numbers guys or geeks run the show. They never spend money on beautifying the product. This is the case with Site Build-It, XSitepro, Semiologic, and BFM. Just the way it is.

        Mine have to do both, make some money and look decent.

        So BFM probably won't work for me.
        .....

        The Butterfly Marketing Script is "Template Driven", so you are pretty much free to make both the front end and the back end membership areas of your sites look anyway you want!!


        Originally Posted by dmag1 View Post

        .....

        The technical downside is that Mike is not a software guy, he's a marketer who went out and paid for a coder or coders to develop the system. More than one person has said that it's not an easy system to use, and a person needs some coding skills to pull it off.
        .....
        As you can imagine, Mike is a sharp, astute and highly driven guy (his success didn't just happen!). With regards to his background, as can be seen in his Bio, he gained an education in the New York Institute of Technology in Computer Science and Business Administration.

        Mike actually has a number of full time programmers on his staff providing software development and maintenance as well as his own design team.

        As with anything new and packed with features, there is a learning curve. I don't agree however that you 'need coding skills to pull it off'. The membership area has a number of videos that walks you through the script installation and building your site.

        Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zubair Zm
    I tried at about 9.40 EST and site is live and easily accessible. It took me only few minutes to finish my transaction for shipping and handling payment and I was able to log in to the site immediately. Not bad in $29.95 (shipping and handling charges).
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  • Profile picture of the author edz007
    Hmm, I've got the receipt, got the email asking me to confirm the email, but I can't login. Anybody got the solution???
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  • Profile picture of the author Zubair Zm
    Try log-in at Mike Filsaime's ButterflyMarketing.com
    your user name is your email address and password
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  • Profile picture of the author Adeel_Chowdhry
    Oh don't you just hate whiners.

    Great launch, great marketing, great buzz, broken servers. I wish I had these problems

    I think I ordered 2 by mistake due to several re tries over many hours (realized since I got two confirmation emails in serperate inboxes).

    I'm sure someone on Mike's team is reading these posts so please don't penalize me for a duplicate order, but you guys are smart and know you'll be dealing with a lot more dups than just mine!

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Klatt
    A few people have mentioned this, and I will confirm that Mike is one of the good guys, a marketer with integrity.

    I bought actually before the first launch, and have made multiples of the investment. One copy I installed myself. The rest I had someone I found through a WSO (hint, an opportunity waiting to happen!) install.

    Just one tip for people wondering whether they should buy or not:

    The Butterfly Marketing manuscript by itself can easily be worth thousands to you in the way it helps you set up your affiliate program the way the top affiliate marketers need your program set up.

    Even though I already have the earlier version, I appreciate the earlier posts about what's new in this version - worth upgrading for me.

    Of course, for free, or $30, that takes away any question I had about upgrading.

    (And some of the bonuses out there make it more attractive than using my own link - time to go shopping .

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  • Profile picture of the author stevenh512
    I really wanted to buy this, I've read the manuscript and would love to get my hands on the software that ties that whole method together, but there was something that really turned me off. It wasn't Mike, I have a lot of respect for him, and it wasn't the whole server meltdown thing either. It just seemed like with the whole server meltdown mess, some people were getting help while others weren't, and the people who weren't getting help were usually those of us who were already subscribed to the newsletter and wanted nothing more than the order links we were promised inside certain membership sites so that we could order without having to deal with a second subscription to the same newsletter. Again I don't blame Mike for this, and considering all the problems they were having I really don't blame his staff all that much either, but it was a little off-putting as a customer to feel like I had to beg for the privilege of sending more money. If it's ever relaunched at a price that's reasonable and affordable to me (the current price definitely meets both of those criteria) and there aren't so many server issues and support issues I have no doubt I'll buy it at that time, whether it's a physical package that gets shipped to me or a digital version (actually I kind of prefer a digital version, I read the whole manuscript on my laptop, and I think all those books, CDs and DVDs would just end up being more junk cluttering my workspace lol).

    edit: Just want to add that I'm not blaming or bashing anybody, honestly I think Mike and his staff are top-notch most of the time. It was just a bad situation all around, and the support issues that came up kind of left a bad taste in my mouth (and I'm sure Mike's staff weren't trying to make things difficult, they had a lot of issues to take care of). I do applaud Mike for leaving the offer open for 48 hours and allowing more than 5000 people to get this incredible deal, I just couldn't bring myself to click the pay button this time.. lol

    (and one more thing to add)
    Originally Posted by Powder_Skier View Post

    I guess I should have just screwed Mikes affiliate and gone directly to Mikes page when I could, but that's not how I work. Silly me!
    As long as you've gone through that affiliate's link before (for example, to get to the "early bird" squeeze page), you probably would have still been cookied for that affiliate if you followed Mike's link so it wouldn't have mattered. To be sure, you could have checked near the bottom of the page for your affiliate's name.
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  • Profile picture of the author gabbydeb
    Hello everyone,

    I had a whole bunch of questions yesterday about BFM 2
    that some very nice Warriors took the time to answer,
    and as a result I ordered my package just a little 3:00
    Mountain Time, and got through with no problem, now
    I can't wait to get the package. In the members area
    however, Mike has over delivered. There is one product
    there that is worth way more than I paid for s/h of the
    Butterfly Marketing Course, in my opinion.

    Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author stevenh512
      Originally Posted by gabbydeb View Post

      I ordered my package just a little 3:00 Mountain Time, and got through with no problem, now I can't wait to get the package.
      Congrats, I'm sure you'll love it, I seriously would have bought it today but the whole meltdown situation kind of helped me make the decision to use that money for another project I have in mind that isn't really BFM related. If you haven't read the manuscript yet, do yourself a favor an download the digital version to read while you wait (it should have been given to you as a bonus if you signed up on the early bird list, or you can get it at getmysoftwarefree.com but I think you'd have to subscribe to the newsletter again.. lol). That alone is worth more than what you paid for the shipping and handling, it's not necessarily all fresh information but it's good information and the way it's put together makes it a pretty easy read.

      As far as the other bonuses.. I own almost all of Mike's other software (either purchased, or as bonuses from other things I purchased), so I have to agree with you on that, most of Mike's software and services that I know he's included as unadvertised bonuses are worth a lot more than you paid for the BFM package if you don't have them already. Personally I couldn't live without Power Link Generator.. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis-White
    Yep, and I cant wait... Just got sent for it today looking really forward to it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    I joined yesteday, cant log on and says my email is not registered. Does anyone know how to submit a support request?
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    • Profile picture of the author kenetrix
      Originally Posted by Kitejunkiee View Post

      I joined yesteday, cant log on and says my email is not registered. Does anyone know how to submit a support request?
      I have the same problem. I opened a ticket on TheCustomerHelpDesk.com last night, but no response yet.

      -Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
    I tried for an hour , there were so many glitches. I think th whole crash thing is more hype. "Our servers got crashed" how cool is that? I filled all the payment page , then nothing in the next page. I did receive the email . But when i try to login , it said we couldnt find your username in our database.

    P.S - This offer is for whole software for shipping cost. Am i right? If i can get software for $39 , i'll be happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by ankur sharma View Post

      I tried for an hour , there were so many glitches. I think th whole crash thing is more hype. "Our servers got crashed" how cool is that? I filled all the payment page , then nothing in the next page. I did receive the email . But when i try to login , it said we couldnt find your username in our database.

      P.S - This offer is for whole software for shipping cost. Am i right? If i can get software for $39 , i'll be happy.
      Just forward a copy of your receipt to Mike's helpdesk, and have them create an account for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Thornhill
    I wouldn't normally get involved in a thread like this but I can't believe some of the comments on here. I think if Mike was including $100 bills in with the package some people would still moan.

    This one cracks me up.

    Originally Posted by Zombie View Post

    Howdy

    To expensive for my blood (and bank account) at this time of the month. Not saying it isn't worth the price, but if something is free it doesn't seem right to charge extra on the S/H. At least it looks like you have the option to opt out of the continuity part of the offer.
    Wow, not only do you want Mikes $1997 software for free you want him to pay to ship it to you.

    The moaners will continue to moan while the rest of us will continue to use BFM to make money and build a list.

    I have to go now, I have another $97 One Time Offer sale to withdraw from my PayPal account...

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
      Well said John and I'm glad I bought through your link for all that tech help!!


      Originally Posted by John Thornhill View Post

      I wouldn't normally get involved in a thread like this but I can't believe some of the comments on here. I think if Mike was including $100 bills in with the package some people would still moan.

      This one cracks me up.



      Wow, not only do you want Mikes $1997 software for free you want him to pay to ship it to you.

      The moaners will continue to moan while the rest of us will continue to use BFM to make money and build a list.

      I have to go now, I have another $97 One Time Offer sale to withdraw from my PayPal account...

      John
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      • Profile picture of the author johnng
        Well said. Some of these moaners will do very well only if they use their moaning energy into making money! Just joking!
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        • Profile picture of the author ronline
          Ok, just incase one of the BM staff are still checking this thread, Mike, you mentioned being kind enough to allow a download link for very nice and grateful people/persons/ (person?)

          I have purchased, can you tell me which hoops I need to jump through to get a link please?

          Extenuating circumstances mean I have to ask...

          Would be very much appreciated if this was possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Melkor
    Oh, quite your whining about tech support pricing. You can download Red Hat (Fedora) for free or the Enterprise editions for pretty much nothing, but to actually make it work in your NOC you either spend a lot of time and money training your own people or you hire a consultant to get it done.

    Which doesn't come cheap.

    But the choice is yours - you spend the time, or you spend the money to have it done for you. Same choice Mike's giving you; and if you don't like his offer you can always post a job on eLance or Guru.com and see if you can find someone who a) is actually trained in how the script works and b) is willing to do tech support for you for less than Mike's charging.

    It's your choice though. Mike's making an offer, to save you time in exchange for money. Is your money or your time worth more to you?
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  • Profile picture of the author Scofz
    Ignore my previous message, I checked my CC, it hadnt been debited, so I started over, and it all works fine !
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidCarter
    Like most people on the early bird list I got frustrated for an hour when I was unable to order it. But then when I saw Mike explaining everything on the live Ustream I realized all I had to do was be patient and come back later.

    Which I did late last night, placed my order without any problems and now I'm looking forward to it arriving so I can learn how to use it and make some more money.

    I got my copy through John Thornhill's link as well, it's funny how if you act and promote yourself in a likeable, honest no-bs manner, people will want to deal with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author MeTellYou
    I'm kind of considering buying it sometime in the future. I'd love to know more about it maybe if it's possible. if anyone would be so kind as to PM me with details pertaining to what's included, and their experience with, I would be very appreciative.

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  • Profile picture of the author PeteHarrison
    Originally Posted by Ross Kenny View Post

    EDIT - GOT MY HANDS ON A COPY AT 6PM EST

    The only reason I ask is I got in on time. Entered all my credit card details and the order button didn't work???

    Anyone else have this problem...

    Who got a copy then??

    I've just signed up for it - everything worked fine except the link for the original BM salesletter (on the homepage) gives a 404

    Pete
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  • Profile picture of the author CalvinB
    I'm new at this game and trying to learn as much as I can and get the right tools in place from the start.
    Could someone tell me if this software will benifit me in the marketing and sale of Ebooks.
    Also is there written material with the download.

    Thanks,
    Calvin
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    • Profile picture of the author REHughes
      Hey, Guys
      I'm new to the forum here, but I had the same problem. Got an e-mail saying I could log in, but it says username invalid. I'm not concerned that Mike won't get the problem straightened out, just that I want to be sure that my order actually got through. My bank takes a few days to post. guess it's just a wait and see as I know Mike and his staff are blasted this morning again with all the problems.
      Have a great day all.
      Robert
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      • Profile picture of the author kenetrix
        Originally Posted by REHughes View Post

        Hey, Guys
        I'm new to the forum here, but I had the same problem. Got an e-mail saying I could log in, but it says username invalid. I'm not concerned that Mike won't get the problem straightened out, just that I want to be sure that my order actually got through. My bank takes a few days to post. guess it's just a wait and see as I know Mike and his staff are blasted this morning again with all the problems.
        Have a great day all.
        Robert
        Did the email you received have the subject of "BUTTERFLYMARKETING.COM Customer Receipt/Purchase Confirmation"?


        If not, then your order probably did not complete successfully.


        I ordered last night, and got a different email, saying that I could log in, but ran into the same problem that you described.

        I tried opening a trouble ticket, but got no response to it.

        Finally, about 10 minutes ago, I gave up on waiting for a response, and just resubmitted the order.

        This time, I got the email with the subject line above, the order went through fine, and I was able to log into the member's area.

        Hope that helps.

        -Ken
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        • Profile picture of the author REHughes
          Originally Posted by kenetrix View Post

          Did the email you received have the subject of "BUTTERFLYMARKETING.COM Customer Receipt/Purchase Confirmation"?


          If not, then your order probably did not complete successfully.


          I ordered last night, and got a different email, saying that I could log in, but ran into the same problem that you described.

          I tried opening a trouble ticket, but got no response to it.

          Finally, about 10 minutes ago, I gave up on waiting for a response, and just resubmitted the order.

          This time, I got the email with the subject line above, the order went through fine, and I was able to log into the member's area.

          Hope that helps.

          -Ken

          Hi, Ken

          Thanks for the heads up. I have kept on trying today, and still no luck. Guess I'll just go ahead and resubmit a new order. I really don't want to miss out on this. Unlike many, I realize it's true value, even if I do have to get a programmer or whatever to help me with it.I also went through John Thornehill's site and am looking forward to his help with it.

          Ok, thanks again Ken. And, good luck to all of you who APPLY this program!

          Robert
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  • Profile picture of the author papeter
    I don't think I am going to buy it even though it's virtually free save for postage. It's just another system which is going to cloud my judgement. I suffer from far too much info as it is. I just want to settle down with PPC Kahuna and Gauher Chaudhry's PPC/CPA report due out on 31st of March. Not sure if Butterfly can help with CPA marketing...I very doubt it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dean_holland
    O M G !

    Are these people for real ? ! ? !

    First off here was my experience....So I get the early bird email and dash off to get the script, to which I might add I am EXTREMELY amazed to get it free. I arrive at the page, the video starts but I immediately hit the buy button...

    Then .... CRASH, nothing .... all of a sudden Im panicing like mad thinking Im gunna miss out.. Oh no Im not going to be one of the lucky 5000

    And you know what ......

    I then stopped and laughed to myself for allowing myself to be 'got at' by Mikes GENIUS marketing strategies !!

    What Mike does and how he does it is just AMAZING !!!!

    Yes he had issues, yes people couldnt get in as soon as first expected but SO WHAT ! Look at how it made you feel... do you wish your methods had people queing up with that feeling ?? I sure hope I can pull it off some day.

    As for actually getting the BFM package, was it not VERY obvious that it was a physical product not a digital one ?? Dont know where some of you people had your heads stuck but I sure didnt see anything about it being digital and getting it right away ?!

    I live in the UK and gotta wait like a month to get it, thats no problem to me as Im not at the stage of needing it but I know an amazing deal when I see one.

    People have complained about having to try the newsletter ... did I imagine that Mike states in the video you can cancel it about 13 seconds after you pay for BFM postage ?? I thought it was quite clear, and even says it in black and white in the members area.

    Some of you have moaned about the no support issue !! Heck what you expecting.... "Here you go sir use my toilet, can I wipe your ar$e for you ?" You know what sorry for being like that but it makes me mad, you have a $2000 package free !!!!! I am not techie in any way, Im guessing it wont cost mega bucks to outsource the set up of this thing so get over it peeps !

    Me personally not only am I pleased and happy to get this deal for $40 ( Extra $10 to ship to UK ) but I think all of us folks on our way up in internet marketing can learn a hell of a lot from this launch. Its 1 I wont be forgetting for a long time !

    Well done Mike, good job sir !

    Dean
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    • Profile picture of the author Rick Wilson
      Originally Posted by dean_holland View Post

      O M G !

      Are these people for real ? ! ? !

      <snip> ...

      Some of you have moaned about the no support issue !! Heck what you expecting.... "Here you go sir use my toilet, can I wipe your ar for you ?"
      ROFLMAO ... I LIKE that one!

      But seriously ... IF $30 ($40 if out of U.S.) is too much for people to invest in their online biz then ...

      1 - DON'T order it if you don't think it will do anything for what you are doing or you have a thing about continuity programs.

      2 - MAYBE, Just MAYBE, you should NOT be in biz at all either.

      The free offer, the shipping/handling charge, and the "continuity" aspect of this offer IS in plain sight on the sales page and order page. As Mike F. has said, you can cancel ANYTIME.

      I CANNOT believe that one can't get anything out of this $30-$40 investment.

      SHEESH ...

      Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel

      P.S. And yes ... I DID order it yesterday and everything went thru fine. I've always been curious about the BFM script. A no-brainer for me. Even tho I haven't gotten the script yet, the info I've gotten on the site has already been worth MORE than $30 for me! ;-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
        Can we use our own mini-site design templates with this software? Is it similar concept to RAP where we can add tokens so we can use whatever HTML site we want on not a default?
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        • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
          Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

          Can we use our own mini-site design templates with this software? Is it similar concept to RAP where we can add tokens so we can use whatever HTML site we want on not a default?
          Yes!!

          You can even use PLR (Private Label Rights) or MRR (Master Resale Rights) products with
          the Butterfly script.

          In fact, I highly recommend you do EXACTLY that if you don't have your own product.

          How much digital dust do you have stored away on your hard drive?

          You can churn out butterfly sites if you want to.

          You don't even need to create the content if you're not ready for that yet.
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          • Profile picture of the author REHughes
            Robert here again,

            Ok! I finally got mine. had to go back and reorder, but it was well worth the effort.

            I can't commend Mike enough for how he has handled this whole situation. I was watching as the flames were burning yesterday morn', and I gotta say, HE KEPT HIS CLASS! (KUDOS, MIKE! Thank you!) No one would listen to his instructions-IE: please don't try to order now--- then another whole horde would come on screen complaining their order wasn't going through! Man, I think I would probably have just signed off and went home and said forget it. But, Mike ain't me, and he didn't, and I'm GRATEFUL. Just hoping to someday get to actually work beside him and others of his caliber.

            But, until then, I will sit happily here at home and build my own little BUTTERFLY SITES:p with my new FREE BFM 2.0! Yipee!

            Robert
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary Simpson
      Gee, I haven't posted here for years, mainly because of the whingeing and moaning and criticism and attack dog mentality of so many people who come here to complain and criticise about everything and everyone. However, I saw a link at John Thornhill's blog and was interested to see if anything had changed.

      Sure doesn't look like it!

      I watched Mike Filsaime's BM2.0 launch unfold at the prescribed time like 1000's of others. Sure, he had problems. Yes his servers and payment systems became overloaded. Yes, it was frustrating.

      But to see the anger and animosity of some people in the live feed was, as usual, really disappointing. Then I heard Mike mumble something about how he was gonna ruin his day by coming to the Warrior Forum to read what people would be saying about him, or words to that effect.

      I think Dean Holland summed it up pretty well when he said:

      Originally Posted by dean_holland View Post

      O M G !

      "Some of you have moaned about the no support issue !! Heck what you expecting.... "Here you go sir use my toilet, can I wipe your ar for you ?" You know what sorry for being like that but it makes me mad, you have a $2000 package free !!!!! I am not techie in any way, Im guessing it wont cost mega bucks to outsource the set up of this thing so get over it peeps !"

      Dean
      Now, I'm not saying that EVERY person here is tarred with the same brush but...

      ... from the comments made, I think it gives a pretty darn good demarkation line between those who have a mentality of success versus those who are going to struggle big time with being successful at anything. Sorry to say this you negative ones but what you sow is what you will reap.

      Mike Filsaime was trying to do something good for people with his launch. YES he IS a marketer. Yes he wants to make money too. But seriously, all you people whingeing about having to pay freight on a FREE product... for God's sake! And that is not to mention even that these units actually COST money to produce in the first place. If you bothered to look you would have seen all those boxes piled up in one of the pictures. They are PHYSICAL things. Physical things cost money to send. And don't forget the countless hours of research and development that goes into these products.

      Yes, you have to pay for tech support. So what? If you don't want to do that then go figure it out yourself. It is a CHOICE. If you don't want the monthly newsletter then cancel it. That's a choice too.

      OK, that will probably upset the attack dogs again but too bad. All I'm asking is why can't you look on the bright side of things instead of focussing on the dark side all the time? You might find that things will get a whole lot easier for you if you do that. Go and read Napoleon Hill's "Think and Grow Rich," or something.
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      • Profile picture of the author superbiz
        I ordered BM2 and the order went thru without a hitch. I did order it around 5.00pm yesterday. At 1.00pm EST yesterday, the site was down.

        For all the guys worrying abt tech support and stuff... I suggest you order thru John Thornhill's affiliate link. He has a bonus offer which will take you thru getting your butterfly marketing site up and running.

        Those who are finding the price high... I would say this...a decent functional script without bugs would cost around $100 or more. Of course BM2 is not going to have all the bells and whistles like the fantasos software ...also the design and layout is not tht grt too...but then the price difference between the two is at least over a thousand dollars.

        There is a market demand for a good,functional, sales & affiliate management system at a cheap price. Looking around right now at the few available choices, I think this is a good deal for around 30 bucks.

        So what I suggest to those who are planning to sell something online...if you do not have a decent script yet, get this piece of software..and although I have an affiliate link..I'd suggest you buy thru John's link...

        Chill....
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        • Profile picture of the author Rolliesworld
          Originally Posted by superbiz View Post


          For all the guys worrying abt tech support and stuff... I suggest you order thru John Thornhill's affiliate link. He has a bonus offer which will take you thru getting your butterfly marketing site up and running.

          ...
          Can you please tell me what John's order link is please...?
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          • Profile picture of the author superbiz
            Originally Posted by Rolliesworld View Post

            Can you please tell me what John's order link is please...?
            sure...the link is:

            Mike Filsaime's ButterflyMarketing.com

            As of posting the this , the site is still available. Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    It seemed that every guru under the sun was promoting it. My email was being bombarded in the last few days. I did not apply for it because with these programmes you seem to have to jump through so many hoops to finally get the product. You also have to watch out for certain "continuity packages" which can be fellow travellers. I did not have the time to go through with it all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
      I was amazed and disappointed that Mike hasn't actually paid me to try his product.

      Sheesh....

      He says he is giving it away for free but he isn't.

      Firstly, I have to pay postage. What an absolute joke!!!

      Then none of his guys will install it for free. Bad service hey?

      They won't even build me a website nor make any sales for me! I just can't believe the lack of care.

      Finally, to top it all off, I PERSONALLY have to watch the videos and actually DO some work MYSELF. I think this is completely over the top.

      I thought they were going to move the free line all the way to my bank account!!!

      Talking SERIOUSLY now, boys and girls, this is a good offer. I don't often say this about "guru's" but anyone who complains about what they are getting for just the cost of shipping and handling needs to give themselves a cold enema and stop talking out of their asses.

      You owe it to yourself to give it an honest go. If you aren't technically minded then cough up the $300 for support, stop moaning, take some action and make some money.

      If you aren't willing to invest a few hundred bucks on this or any other equally attractive offer, then don't moan and groan and post threads on this forum asking "how can I make some money online" like I see so often.

      Get a life.
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      • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
        Originally Posted by Steadyon View Post

        I was amazed and disappointed that Mike hasn't actually paid me to try his product.

        Sheesh....

        He says he is giving it away for free but he isn't.

        Firstly, I have to pay postage. What an absolute joke!!!

        Then none of his guys will install it for free. Bad service hey?

        They won't even build me a website nor make any sales for me! I just can't believe the lack of care.

        Finally, to top it all off, I PERSONALLY have to watch the videos and actually DO some work MYSELF. I think this is completely over the top.

        I thought they were going to move the free line all the way to my bank account!!!
        Just wait til you find out he won't promote it for you and won't tell his top affiliates
        to promote it to.

        So much for moving the free line
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  • Profile picture of the author BJ Min
    hey guys,

    I got Mike's BF2.0 yesterday...before the official launch...
    I read his manual (on pdf) and I thought it was awesome!

    Currently, I make around $5,000 a month but I want to get
    to the NEXT LEVEL of $10,000 or $100,000 a month...

    and I think viral marketing is the new thing that can do that...instead of
    trying to do everything yourself...have others market for you virally...

    Much better than many other gurus point of view...i am already
    a customer of mike filsaime (his virtual friend generator software)
    and i love that too...

    i really like his concept for buttefly marketing...viral marketing
    and i look forward to implementing that in all my websites in the
    future...

    my only big thing is ...i'm not a very technical person so i might
    be slow at putting this up because i know this is a software...

    anybody have experience in setting up butterfly marketing &
    is willing to set this up in the future - for hire?

    PM me and let me know your rate...

    thanks!

    BJ Min
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  • Profile picture of the author sublime-products
    I had to have two goes at ordering it. First time I got confirmations, but couldn't log in. Mike said something on the Ustream that some orders had been treated as test orders.

    The second time it worked and I have login access.

    I promoted this to my existing subscriber list and the ones who've already gone through my link are getting it installed for free and I'm creating a custom video for them to show exactly what I did. That way they'll be able to do it themselves in the future, if they need to.

    I have a feeling that, although tens of thousands of copies will be sold, not that many people will actually use it. It's always the same. People buy stuff and then it sits, getting dusty.

    The people who are making the most noise about all this should remember one thing: nobody is forcing them to get BFM. If they don't like any part of the deal, just don't buy it. He made it clear before the launch that tech support would not be included in the price.

    I can guarantee that there will be better deals available for tech support later on, than the $300 deal offered once you login to the member's area. They just won't be coming from Butterfly Marketing.

    I had a public spat with Mike Filsaime about PayDotCom, but on this launch I'd have to say my only criticism is that they should have 'stress' tested the order process before launch.

    I'll bet every penny I have that they will for the next launch!

    Amin
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommy McLaughlin
    I am also suprised by some of the comments (or am I ..)

    What did disappoint me was all the comments on his vid text printer ...

    pretty vile stuff, anyhoos server crashes and other problems ... I still managed to get a copy ...

    Also via John Thornhill ;-)

    Have a good day what ever you choose to do ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
      Originally Posted by Tommy McLaughlin View Post

      I am also suprised by some of the comments (or am I ..)

      What did disappoint me was all the comments on his vid text printer ...

      pretty vile stuff, anyhoos server crashes and other problems ... I still managed to get a copy ...

      Also via John Thornhill ;-)

      Have a good day what ever you choose to do ;-)
      Me too. And even better than the bonus and support is that he'll promote your BFM to his 50K list! Now that's a sweet freaking bonus.

      People need to see opportunities vs. negativity. Plus hey if you get good at installing BFM you can create your own "how to" videos to sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rupps
      Wow a lot of angry comments from people who don't even know what the product is. Do your homework, just because it's free (or nearly) does not mean you need it.

      The added cost for shipping should have kept some of the freebie seekers away, guess the hype was too much for that.

      If you want a low-cost decent product without continuity or having to cancel, join the war room. Wait a minute, join it anyway. Also look at some of the really decent WSO's, you'll find a lot of great money makers that won't make you any money (due to your mindset).

      Mike has come through and is giving everyone a chance at this and has not limited it to 5000 any more - yet people still complain.

      There is no way someone would offer free support on a free product - imagine the cost involved in helping 5000 non-paying customers.

      I absolutely hate these high profile product launches and I usually stay away. But I did my homework and knew what was being offered. I bought about 6pm with no hassles. Plus I want to try his continuity program to see if it has real value. I am ok with that.

      The biggest problem I had is not the server problems - that's a given. I am not sure why anyone would think they can handle that type of load on their servers without problems - they should have known better.

      No the real problem was that the ordering form did not work. There was a flaw in the script - all that should have been checked out to work ahead of time.

      I commend Mike for this launch (even though I hate these things). People should learn from him as he is one of the top marketers. If you don't follow him, pick someone else that is as successful, which are people associated with him, what a coincidence.
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      • Profile picture of the author PeteNY
        Originally Posted by Rupps View Post


        The biggest problem I had is not the server problems - that's a given. I am not sure why anyone would think they can handle that type of load on their servers without problems - they should have known better.

        No the real problem was that the ordering form did not work. There was a flaw in the script - all that should have been checked out to work ahead of time.
        I think the ordering form problem was a symptom of the server overload. The order form script couldn't access the database to even pull up the list of states or other functions it needed to complete it's task. Something he couldn't test for, and didn't anticipate.
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        • Profile picture of the author dmag1
          Maybe somebody can chime in and comment on the actual product and
          WHY it is supposedly so good. I've only just scratched the surface on it but my initial observation is that:

          1. It is a relatively low grade web site creator, in terms of aesthetics (mediocre site tools)

          2. The system behind it is just really a membersite site script, and not as robust as any others I've seen.

          3. It does offer easy to use OTO, upsells, etc.

          Aside from the DVDs with his marketing wisdom (unquestionable value), what makes the actual system so special? Seems none of the individual components are unique or top notch by themselves.

          Let's get away from the normal rants and ridiculing one another, and ask a real question.

          As far as the product itself, what's the big deal?

          I'm just not seeing anything that can't be done better with existing tools.

          Just sayin...
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          • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
            The script does everything I want my website to do to make the most money possible.

            You can build your list on the front end, and sell stuff on the back end.

            And your members get an affiliate link inside of their account so they can grow
            your site for you.

            Since January 1st, just 3 of my butterfly sites added 4117 subscribers to my list on complete autopilot.

            In the right hands, it can be a monster profit wise.

            Read the old salespage and check out all the REAL RESULTS Testimonials.

            Butterfly Marketing - By Mike Filsaime

            That pretty much sums it all up.

            Hope this helps
            Jason

            Originally Posted by dmag1 View Post

            Maybe somebody can chime in and comment on the actual product and
            WHY it is supposedly so good. I've only just scratched the surface on it but my initial observation is that:

            1. It is a relatively low grade web site creator, in terms of aesthetics (mediocre site tools)

            2. The system behind it is just really a membersite site script, and not as robust as any others I've seen.

            3. It does offer easy to use OTO, upsells, etc.

            Aside from the DVDs with his marketing wisdom (unquestionable value), what makes the actual system so special? Seems none of the individual components are unique or top notch by themselves.

            Let's get away from the normal rants and ridiculing one another, and ask a real question.

            As far as the product itself, what's the big deal?

            I'm just not seeing anything that can't be done better with existing tools.

            Just sayin...
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          • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
            Originally Posted by dmag1 View Post

            Maybe somebody can chime in and comment on the actual product and
            WHY it is supposedly so good. I've only just scratched the surface on it but my initial observation is that:

            1. It is a relatively low grade web site creator, in terms of aesthetics (mediocre site tools)

            2. The system behind it is just really a membersite site script, and not as robust as any others I've seen.

            3. It does offer easy to use OTO, upsells, etc.

            Aside from the DVDs with his marketing wisdom (unquestionable value), what makes the actual system so special? Seems none of the individual components are unique or top notch by themselves.

            Let's get away from the normal rants and ridiculing one another, and ask a real question.

            As far as the product itself, what's the big deal?

            I'm just not seeing anything that can't be done better with existing tools.

            Just sayin...
            You just answered your own question.

            For $30 bucks...who cares if the script actually works or not? I'm getting a full blown marketing seminar in my living room, and Mike Filesame is the speaker.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rupps
          Originally Posted by PeteNY View Post

          I think the ordering form problem was a symptom of the server overload. The order form script couldn't access the database to even pull up the list of states or other functions it needed to complete it's task. Something he couldn't test for, and didn't anticipate.
          That could be it. During the Ustream event it sounded like a problem with people from certain countries. I was getting the impression that the drop-down box was not filling in for those people which made it sound like a simple programming error.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotlinkz
    Man...I gotta get me one of these "Meltdown Launches"!
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  • Profile picture of the author Droopy Dawg
    I tried ordering it a bunch of times... couldn't get to the site.

    I was finally able to get to the order page, and I was just about to click the ORDER button when I realized... I have so much other stuff on my plate now... I wouldn't get to look at the script for a while. And I didn't want anything to derail the path that I've set for myself... so I decided to close the browser and stay focused on the task at hand.

    The server issues didn't bother me... the more I think about it it may have been a marketing ploy by Mike... he may have pulled the plug on his server for a couple hours... hey its just my hunch I'm not pointing any fingers.

    I'm not bothered by paying for support. I've been a network admninistrator and webdesigner for almost 10 years now... I understand the support aspect, and why you must pay for help.

    For those that were able to get the script... I wish you all the best.

    For those that decided not to get the script (for whatever reason)... good luck with your business ventures, but don't sit and wonder how successful your business would have been if you had gotten BFM... pay the 30 bucks for shipping and take it for a drive. We've all spent way more than $30 on bullcrap before that didn't work... so 30 bucks for a proven system is a no-brainer.

    Enjoy your day folks... hell I might see if any are still available later today and put it on the "backburner". And maybe once I'm done I may give it a go.
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    • Profile picture of the author stevenh512
      Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg View Post

      I have so much other stuff on my plate now... I wouldn't get to look at the script for a while.
      Exactly. The server meltdown and some of the support issues that came afterwards gave me time to think about it, and I realized I have a few other projects I should put my time and money into and BFM probably wouldn't help with those (well, maybe one of them, but it wouldn't take me long to write a script that gives me a few of the more "basic" features I would have needed from BFM). I've seen the script in action and I think it's absolute genius, like I've already said I would have loved to get my hands on it, but realistically I don't need it right now and I had other things that ended up taking priority.

      Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg View Post

      The server issues didn't bother me... the more I think about it it may have been a marketing ploy by Mike... he may have pulled the plug on his server for a couple hours... hey its just my hunch I'm not pointing any fingers.
      It's funny that Mike did make a comment (jokingly, I presume) on Twitter several days before the launch about "programming the server to crash" lol.. but that's not to say the crash was intentional, it could have very well been true that the server was simply overloaded and came to a halt. Of course I also saw a comment in the ustream chat that suggested it might have been intentional, someone said "You are now witnessing Mass Control."

      Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg View Post

      I'm not bothered by paying for support. I've been a network admninistrator and webdesigner for almost 10 years now... I understand the support aspect, and why you must pay for help.
      I honestly doubt that anyone will need to pay the $300 for support. The people getting it "free" do still get access to the private forum where there are members who have been using the script since the original launch, I'm sure most of those people are quite familiar with installing and customizing it, so I think it shouldn't be too hard for anyone to find "third-party" support either free or for a lot less than $300.

      Originally Posted by Rupps View Post

      Well I don't have it yet so I can't comment on all of it, but the OTO part requires a merchant account and authorize.net and is only good for people in the US
      Right and wrong.. lol

      BFM has always had support for OTOs regardless of your payment processor (if you read the manuscript you'll see that it's an integral part of the whole "system"), and as far as I know that hasn't changed with 2.0. What you need Authorize.net for is the new "one-click OTO" technology Mike has included in the new version.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Starter
    Watching Mike's launch (or any of the big launches) is the closest thing I think you can get to a free lunch in the IM World.

    You don't need to be a genius to work out how simple yet effective his strategy is.

    1. Create a good product that solves a problem
    2. Get a bunch of JV partners on board
    3. Pre-release teaser content and case studies
    4. Make the offer the best you can
    5. Launch it

    I agree with the comments about testing and as for server load balancing, on the back of an expected million dollar launch surely it is possible to throw a few grand at a highly available data centre cluster - if only for the first week when you know demand is going to spike.

    Maybe the feeding frenzy of 100,000 people hitting refresh is part of the plan, me I'd be very happy if I got 5000 happy customers and little or no flames ]
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  • Profile picture of the author DEERFARMER
    Mike suggest that we all get a merchant account. If we have a paypal account do we really need a merchant account??????
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    • Profile picture of the author PeteNY
      Can anyone tell me what the 7 Figure Zone is? I checked the box for it in my rush to try to order Butterfly Marketing. Will I be charged in the future for this part?

      Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Rupps
      Originally Posted by DEERFARMER View Post

      Mike suggest that we all get a merchant account. If we have a paypal account do we really need a merchant account??????
      Well I don't have it yet so I can't comment on all of it, but the OTO part requires a merchant account and authorize.net and is only good for people in the US
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Lindsay
      Originally Posted by DEERFARMER View Post

      Mike suggest that we all get a merchant account. If we have a paypal account do we really need a merchant account??????
      You don't need any additional payment accounts other than PayPal (as always make sure your PayPal account is verified etc.).

      We've all heard the stories about getting shut down by PayPal. Even though you may have (and should have) pre-advised PayPal of your launch and anticipated volume of orders, it's wise to also have a back up account particularly if you expect to process a large number of transactions in a short time. This is especially so if your account's not used to seeing those volumes, such as during a new product launch.

      The Butterfly Marketing Script 1.9x supports PayPal, ClickBank, 2Checkout and Authorize.net (I've not seen version 2.0 yet but I'm looking forward to receiving it).
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  • Profile picture of the author jamsferguson
    I got the email reciept but I haven't checked my CC yet- I figured I was OK now you guys have got me worried.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rupps
      Originally Posted by jamsferguson View Post

      I got the email reciept but I haven't checked my CC yet- I figured I was OK now you guys have got me worried.
      Jim
      I got an email receipt and a confirmation email. Once confirmed I was able to access the site and create a login. So look for the confirmation email and follow the steps to create your account and be prepared for a bunch of OTO's
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    • Profile picture of the author PeteNY
      Originally Posted by jamsferguson View Post

      I got the email reciept but I haven't checked my CC yet- I figured I was OK now you guys have got me worried.
      Jim
      I just went through the same thing. I got an email yesterday saying it will be shipped in 10-14 days. Called my credit card company an hour ago and nothing was charged. So, I ordered again just now. Now, the order page says I have to wait for the new ones since the 5000 sold out. All well.

      If I were you, I'd call your credit card company and order again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Izethas
    Yes I got it! It was a smooth transaction for me. Heck, $29.95 is a pretty good deal for a product like this, I don't care what evryone else says about this. You can easily cancel the monthly magazine if want, so it doesn't get any better than that.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxskyxxx
    i tried it a couple times yesterday, it didnt work. good thing it's still available
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  • Profile picture of the author RB
    I think most people are just like me, the only way you learn how internet marketing usually works is by getting burned - if not monetarily it would be by not getting what you are promised. We are talking about a addictive disease here, much like substance abuse. This abuse comes from both ends, from yours and from the promoter.

    I made another post about attending a conference that I was largely disappointed with. It seems we often have to take the bait hook, line, and sinker only to find out how much we already know.

    At least you can get that much value out of the offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
    You do need the Authorize.net account to have the upsells work for you with BM.

    Is there any other processing companies that the script will work with?
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    • Profile picture of the author stevenh512
      Originally Posted by Justin Mandel View Post

      You do need the Authorize.net account to have the upsells work for you with BM.

      Is there any other processing companies that the script will work with?
      From what I've seen and heard, it will support every payment processor the original BM script supported. Upsells will work exactly the same as they always did, with one exception. You'll need Authorize.net for the one-click upsells. That doesn't mean you can't still handle your upsells/OTOs with Paypal or Clickbank, it just means that if you handle them that way they'll work the way they always have and you won't be able to use them as one-click upsells.

      The requirement to use Authorize.net for the one-click upsells is a technical limitation of the other payment processors, not the script. Authorize.net keeps a "payment profile" when you make your payment, so the one-click works by telling the payment gateway to bill that same profile without having to store your credit card info or force you to enter it again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lee McIntyre
    I'm personally boggled by some of the responses here.

    There's a lot in "guru land" that I often find distasteful, but some of the posts here leave me worried for a lot of people.

    If you want the script it seems you have two choices.

    1. Buy the thing for $1997
    2. Pay a $30 shipping charge and take a continuity trial

    I know which of those options I would take (and have taken via John Thornhill's link of course)

    Mike is simply making an offer and the terms of this are very clear. It's then our choice whether to accept it or decline it.

    Personally I think it's a complete no brainer.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
      I totally agree Lee. It was a total no brainer and I was lucky enough to get it through John Thornhill's link. He offered a great bonus!!!

      As for the tech support I'm sure John will be there to help as he's set up a few successful Butterfly sites already...


      Originally Posted by Lee McIntyre View Post

      I'm personally boggled by some of the responses here.

      There's a lot in "guru land" that I often find distasteful, but some of the posts here leave me worried for a lot of people.

      If you want the script it seems you have two choices.

      1. Buy the thing for $1997
      2. Pay a $30 shipping charge and take a continuity trial

      I know which of those options I would take (and have taken via John Thornhill's link of course)

      Mike is simply making an offer and the terms of this are very clear. It's then our choice whether to accept it or decline it.

      Personally I think it's a complete no brainer.

      Lee McIntyre
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  • Profile picture of the author FlightGuy
    MIKE IS A NINJA.

    that is all,
    john dennis.
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
    Just purchased. i am so happy. Am i dreaming by the way? I just cant believe that someone can send you whole software for free. Can anyone here confirm that i am not dreaming and yes Mike is sending the full software?

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc43
    Hi Everybody, Got the same problem here I tried 4times, across 2 days something with the buying fields did not work properly ended up giving up..

    I wanted in because got some good ideas from Mike in the past with a great ROI, but this time I have to say that the buy process was not smooth at all unfortunately a loose-loose I really wanted to try the new BM2.0...


    ----------------Update finally got it thanks guys Marc------
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
    I also faced one problem. I wasnt able to write in "state" field. Then i went back , and selected country US and then changed it to my own country. It was allright after that. If it is working for 10k other people. It should work for you also. Try different browser like chrome and i hope you get your product.

    By the way , how many days it will take for international folks?
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
    By the way , i love whiners. They keep the competition low
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  • Profile picture of the author Alton Hargrave
    Originally Posted by ankur sharma View Post

    well , those who got only paypal , they can order VCC. I just purchased my package by using vcc. So all well. PM me if you want to know where to get VCC .

    I am just curious. What is a VCC? It is short for Virtual Credit Card or Very Cool Credit? or what.

    I bought BM2 too. I think the number of whiners was a little overstated. Maybe a few whiners, but thousands of satisfied customers. At least, most of us are learning how to spell whiner. Still a few that spell it whinger? LOL
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  • I sure did

    Looks like a great product, am very excited to get my hands on it!

    Although I've heard it's quite hard to get set up... PM me if anyone knows a good tech guy!
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Originally Posted by GuruCreation View Post

      Did you guys not read the fine print?

      he Entire Butterfly Marketing Home Study Course with Software is being given away for free to 5000 people that pay the s&h of $29.95 US and Canada (+$10 all other countries.) just for trying out our monthly newsletter, risk free, for 30 days. You may cancel anytime prior to billing or later and never be billed. Not one dime. Or do nothing and be conveniently billed our monthly rate of $39.95 + s&h and we will send you our quality newsletter every month which you can cancel by email, phone, or help desk, at anytime and never be billed. Period. See order page for details.

      I don't care who the heck Mike is... He made too many copies to begin with, they didn't sell out. So the only way to get rid of them was to charge people shipping and handling.

      I don't use his tactics, they are good, but I use my own. No list, no nothing.

      Keep it real next time..

      I subscribed to 6 so-called gurus, and all on the same day they all sent me the butterfly marketing email with their affiliate link...ha ha ha

      LOSERS!
      Ah, another person who thinks they have the "inside scoop"...

      This was a planned launch. The plan was for 5,000 - so that's how many Mike had made.

      He had an additional 5,000 made after the server crash when he realized the demand. It is more cost effective to have them made in a bulk of 5,000, hence the reason he orders 5,000 at a time.

      The sale will stay open until the remaining units sell out.

      End of story.

      Believe, don't. You're call. But at least now you have the REAL inside scoop.

      Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
          Originally Posted by GuruCreation View Post

          That's exactly what he wanted you to think...

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          Um, I sat next to him during the launch.

          And I was there during the planning.

          And I set up the butterfly site.

          And I did much of the site testing.

          And I ...

          You get the picture.

          "Last word"
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomasW
    Wow! This market never seems to tire of this tired old routine of launch, server meltdown, WF posts complaining about service and/or product, disagreement among members, post by product creator sticking up for their ethics and professionalism, more posts (free publicity) and in the end the only ones making any money are the usual suspects - product owners and affiliates. The whole thing reminds me of a nightmarish version of "Groundhog Day".
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