Predator George Brown honest reveiw please

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Dare I ask for a proper review of this software.

Reason is that a payment plan has been offered for Predator 2 X $397 making it a possibility for some who could not afford the $797

Also trying to get an honest review of a product theses days is impossible.
So I was hoping that some of the folk who have it could give an honest opinion of the performance.

I notice that there is another system which seems to be identical called Power Leads Pro which was offered here as a WSO some time ago. And I would like to here how it performs so as to make a decision on it as well.

I realise that this type of software has been suggested as sailing close to the black hat side of IM and that is not my intention for its use, and the reason I ask for an honest review and some information on their use other than just Craigs List.

The Warrior forum has been and remains one of the best places to get information so come on guys please stick to the subject and offer some straight up info
Thanks

Allan
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    There were several threads on the subject of Predator but unfortunately they all got deleted for whatever reasons so I don't think this one will be up for long. I haven't bought it so can't help you out, sorry. All I will say is that I'm pleased I was never tempted.
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    • Profile picture of the author gj2802
      It's not worth the time commenting about Predator (good, bad or indifferent) as the thread gets taken down..

      I think if everyone was saying how wonderful it is there would be several threads.. and these would NOT be taken down...

      Make your own minds up.. I've made up mine from seeing the earlier comments
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      • Profile picture of the author favabeans
        I wouldn't mind just some good advice on the legality of using Predator in the US.. I don't own it, but the software seems to do what it says it does. I'd probably buy it if it were more like $27-$47.. just that $797 price tag is way too much, particularly b/c I'm certain I can code something similar that works via the command line in about a week's time.

        Anyway, some advice on the legality of using it would be good..
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        • Profile picture of the author StevenUK
          There are some customer reviews and opinions here, on a site that is not controlled by the warrior forum:

          Predatorsystem.com Reviews From George Montagu Brown. Is It Worth The Hype? | UKDropshop.com

          Probably worth a look if you are considering investing.

          This thread on here will be deleted soon enough though.
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          • Profile picture of the author KnightAl
            Originally Posted by StevenUK View Post

            There are some customer reviews and opinions here, on a site that is not controlled by the warrior forum:

            Predatorsystem.com Reviews From George Montagu Brown. Is It Worth The Hype? | UKDropshop.com

            Probably worth a look if you are considering investing.

            This thread on here will be deleted soon enough though.

            Thanks for the link Steve no actual reviews there but what I'm reading is that no one who has it can get it to work plus no real info on the legality of it, which to me is the most important bit.
            Another reason why this subject needs to be open. If it should be in another section then please advise.
            Like many others I turn to WF for honest advise and guidelines so deleting the whole post is not helping people from firstly, possibly loosing some $$$ on worthless software.
            Secondly, saving them from buying into something that might cause more serious problems.

            Just my thoughts on this.

            Thanks

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            • Profile picture of the author StevenUK
              Originally Posted by KnightAl View Post


              Predatorsystem.com Reviews From George Montagu Brown. Is It Worth The Hype? | UKDropshop.com

              Probably worth a look if you are considering investing.

              Thanks for the link Steve no actual reviews there but what I'm reading is that no one who has it can get it to work plus no real info on the legality of it, which to me is the most important bit.
              Another reason why this subject needs to be open. If it should be in another section then please advise.
              Like many others I turn to WF for honest advise and guidelines so deleting the whole post is not helping people from firstly, possibly loosing some $$$ on worthless software.
              Secondly, saving them from buying into something that might cause more serious problems.

              Just my thoughts on this.

              Thanks

              Allan
              It looks like a whole bunch of warriors have jumped on that website now since the post, and there are now reviews, and reviews from the first live event.

              Hope it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
    yeah unfortunately can't review internet related products here so don't bother.
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  • Profile picture of the author Donimo
    The Predator software is a scam, and (in my opinion, im no lawer), illegal.

    I have requested a refund, and initially received a reply, I then responsed again, and now they are just ignoring me.

    I have called up my bank, and it seems I will be able to get a refund that way.

    Dont waste your money on this software, not unless your already a millionaire anyway (kind of defeats the purpose)
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      • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
        Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        What is so hard to understand? The deleting of the previous threads were because of personal attacks on the product creator, and has nothing to do with not being able to post negative reviews or even freedom of speech.

        Doesn't anybody read rules anymore, they're at the top of every forum section, and since people are lazy, I'll make it easy and post them here.
        Perhaps you would do well to read yourself before posting as I said the previous post was deleted not because of bashing.

        I copied this from Paul Myers on the previous post.

        Understood. I'm not a lawyer, and am not going to get much into that end of things at the moment. I would suggest that one become very familiar with the anti-harvesting provisions of CAN-SPAM before forming any conclusions about the legal wisdom of using the tool in conjunction with specific offers. It's not a consideration to be lightly dismissed.

        The applicability of CAN-SPAM penalties depends on the content of the message, but harvesting CAN become an aggravating factor.

        Regardless: This forum has had a policy for over a decade of not allowing the teaching, endorsement, or facilitating of the sending of unsolicited bulk email. This is a well-known prohibition here.

        That being the case, a positive review of the product would constitute an endorsement, and helping someone use it would be facilitating the sending of UBE. Both are against the rules here.

        That slants the potential impact of the thread to negative reviews only, or discussion of the sales process, which isn't really constructive if the product itself can't be openly reviewed.

        Not exactly a fair and balanced basis for the discussion.

        Under those circumstances, I don't see how this thread, or any other on the product, can be reasonably left open. If I am missing some consideration, please bring it up, as this will otherwise be closed soon.


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          • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
            Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

            Oh, I can read quite well, and I did see Paul's last post before the thread was shut down, but I was talking about the deleted threads and responding to your post above.

            I highlighted in red, what I was replying to.
            The forum rule in regards to bashing people was not the reason for the post being brought down therefore you're previous post is not tied to what I was speaking to
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            • Originally Posted by Donimo View Post

              .... I have requested a refund, and initially received a reply, I then responsed again, and now they are just ignoring me....
              Just make sure you really want it before you hit the buy button. George Brown said he would issue a refund if requested in an earlier WF post. This promise is not being honored, at least in my case. I have sent in several refund requests. One was deleted from his support system and the others have been ignored. Not even the courtesy of a response to the support tickets, except for the one that got deleted. And that one did not honor the refund request. It simply tried to talk me out of the refund request. When I reiterated the refund request they deleted the ticket.
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              • Profile picture of the author Donimo
                Originally Posted by leflerandassociates View Post

                Just make sure you really want it before you hit the buy button. George Brown said he would issue a refund if requested in an earlier WF post. This promise is not being honored, at least in my case. I have sent in several refund requests. One was deleted from his support system and the others have been ignored. Not even the courtesy of a response to the support tickets, except for the one that got deleted. And that one did not honor the refund request. It simply tried to talk me out of the refund request. When I reiterated the refund request they deleted the ticket.
                Exact same with me here. I put in a refund request through the payment processor, but the reviews I've seen about them im not too sure that will get very far.

                Anyway, I have phone my bank and they said I probably will be able tog et a refund within 30 days. I just need to phone the US trade commissions or something first so they can confirm to my bank that I am indeed entitled to my refund. I plan on calling them tomorrow about that.

                So all in all, George Brown support are ignoring all requests of a refund, yet George Brown himself even said in a WF post he would refund if requested. Seems the only route is to phone your bank, like I have done. At least that way George Browns bank become aware, and will hopefully shut him off for good.
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                • Profile picture of the author ysckyler
                  Originally Posted by Donimo View Post

                  Exact same with me here. I put in a refund request through the payment processor, but the reviews I've seen about them im not too sure that will get very far.

                  Anyway, I have phone my bank and they said I probably will be able tog et a refund within 30 days. I just need to phone the US trade commissions or something first so they can confirm to my bank that I am indeed entitled to my refund. I plan on calling them tomorrow about that.

                  So all in all, George Brown support are ignoring all requests of a refund, yet George Brown himself even said in a WF post he would refund if requested. Seems the only route is to phone your bank, like I have done. At least that way George Browns bank become aware, and will hopefully shut him off for good.

                  Well, that thread got deleted and there is no proof he said he is going for a refund. Well i guess, deleting the whole thread seems to be helpful for this "lucky" warrior
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                  • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
                    Well thats too bad hopefully refunds will work out for everyone who wants one including myself, best of luck to us all.
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              • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
                Yes the first two were but the last one was cancelled because of non-bashing, personal attacks was my point, going back to your first post where exactly did you mention the part about that you simply said the previous posts were deleted because of personal attacks, which is not completely correct is it?
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  • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
    Don, were you at the Monday live class? I was super unimpressed with that whole mess.
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  • Profile picture of the author ysckyler
    Yeah, i was kinda interested with the software with the reviews. But the mod over here likes to protect their own. Seems likes there a favourtism goin on here, as each time a reviewer post the lack of success of this software, the mods shut it down and delete the whole thread.

    Seems like warrior forum has finally shut down on free speech and would only protect those inner circle people. So i guess that a benefit of being a "guru" and a war room member in warrior forum, dont like the reviews, request to get it deleted.

    Hmmm............i think it time to move on from this place.
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    • Profile picture of the author KnightAl
      Originally Posted by ysckyler View Post

      Yeah, i was kinda interested with the software with the reviews. But the mod over here likes to protect their own. Seems likes there a favourtism goin on here, as each time a reviewer post the lack of success of this software, the mods shut it down and delete the whole thread.

      Seems like warrior forum has finally shut down on free speech and would only protect those inner circle people. So i guess that a benefit of being a "guru" and a war room member in warrior forum, dont like the reviews, request to get it deleted.

      Hmmm............i think it time to move on from this place.

      I truly hope you are wrong as it will be a shame for reasons I have stated previously
      Like many others I turn to WF for honest advise and guidelines so deleting the whole post is not helping people from firstly, possibly loosing some $$$ on worthless software.
      I guess time will tell.

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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Yeah, i was kinda interested with the software with the reviews. But the mod over here likes to protect their own. Seems likes there a favourtism goin on here, as each time a reviewer post the lack of success of this software, the mods shut it down and delete the whole thread.
      More ridiculous conspiracy theories. "I don't agree with the decision, so whoever made it must have some hidden interest in it."

      The earliest threads were deleted because they were way over the top in their abusive tone. That was explained, and I was letting the second (third? fourth?) one run, while only deleting the posts that got into personal attacks, rather than reviews of the actual product.

      When I realized the product was used to scrape email addresses and send UBE, it became clear it wasn't appropriate for this forum. We have had a policy for more than a decade about not allowing the teaching, endorsing, or facilitating of unsolicited bulk email. You can see the responses explaining that starting here.

      Nothing mysterious or dark and sneaky about it.


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      • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
        either way the product is questionable.
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        • Profile picture of the author cncbuss
          Originally Posted by smkmarketing View Post

          either way the product is questionable.
          I'll give my honest review/ opinion here and hope this thread doesn't get taken down.

          BTW, Predator can be purchased for two payments of $397 until midnight on the 31st of Oct. 012.

          I bought the Predator system during the first "one and only offer" (before he came back and opened it again now is even offering payment options - grrrrrr). This only prove that his credibility is marginal.

          Having used it for a few days, I can say only the following:
          1) I think George truly has the desire to help all his beta testers make money online - questionable tactic or not;

          2) The program itself, although still needs some ironing to get the bugs out, is very powerful. As the demonstration shows, you can 'find' e-mail addresses using the search feature then set up an e-mail campaign to communicate with everyone in that one particular niche. I've never come across such a simple to use, yet powerful ll in one program;

          3) Although you do need to adhere to the basics of marketing, the learning curve is pretty short. I've sent out two campaigns already, using the limited resources which I currently own. That is to ay, I'm limited to promoting Clickbank and Commission Junction product. I'm waiting to be accepted into other CPA networks to give out free trial offers for the good stuff like the Iphone 5;

          4) The customer support is either missing or swamped right now. I don't know how many beta testers they picked up, but my impression is that they've got their hands full trying to keep all the plates spinning for the moment. Not to say that it can't get better, I certainly hope it does. So far, none of my low priority tickets have been answered.;

          5) George's buddy from Google Sniper is back in this as well. He's the featured speaker in the training videos (not great) and he is also the one who led the Training Webinar Monday, which turned out to be somewhat of a fiasco. The training was good, but could have been structured much better and should have gone off without a glitch. ESPECIALLY considering the fact that each attendee has recently parted with almost 1,000 buckaroos to be part of all this;

          6) I think, as I do of every system, that working hard at getting this right will yield above average results.

          However, if you give up on it and think it's a scam from the get go, it will most likely be a big waste of your money before the purchase is even complete.
          I'm a Predator beta tester and will make it work.

          I hope this helps anyone who needed it.
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          • Profile picture of the author KnightAl
            Thanks for contributing your experience cncbuss.

            Much appreciated.

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        • Profile picture of the author cncbuss
          Originally Posted by smkmarketing View Post

          either way the product is questionable.
          One last thing. The question of spam is addressed during several of the training videos.

          They claim that there's nothing spammy about Predator.
          "Spam is defined as an off-topic message sent to a recipient who did request the information" according to the latest video. They claim that we re helping people find something they might know is out there. you could do everything manually
          Predator simply makes the process quicker and easier.
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          • Profile picture of the author messiah
            Hey all,

            Quick review and then back to the trick-or-treaters at the door.

            I thought it would be cool to check this thing out so I picked it up on launch day. As it turns out, it was a waste of time and not too fun at all.

            Firstly, it's super buggy and some of the fields that we need to type critical information in are impossible to populate. Most importantly, all of our mail settings. Supposedly this was fixed in an update, which unfortunately failed as well because problem with the installer not recognizing previously installed version and then suggesting that Serial number needs to be reissued.

            Hard to explain, but essentially a giant digital loop of removing programs, installing new, re-downloading, installing, removing etc. Nightmare and it never worked out. Just a useless installer on desktop is the only sign of my purchase.

            After goofing around for a couple of days with trying to get it to function, I got a refund through my bank after several refund requests through George's support center went unanswered.

            Also, as far as being a spamming tool, I'd have to agree, but rest assured, even if you did buy it, there would be no spamming going on unless you were lucky enough to get it to work.

            Do what you'd like of course, but my personal suggestion is to let it go. I know the allure is a killer sometimes, but this thing is just way too far from being worth the asking price.

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            • Profile picture of the author KnightAl
              Originally Posted by messiah View Post

              Hey all,

              Quick review and then back to the trick-or-treaters at the door.

              I thought it would be cool to check this thing out so I picked it up on launch day. As it turns out, it was a waste of time and not too fun at all.

              Firstly, it's super buggy and some of the fields that we need to type critical information in are impossible to populate. Most importantly, all of our mail settings. Supposedly this was fixed in an update, which unfortunately failed as well because problem with the installer not recognizing previously installed version and then suggesting that Serial number needs to be reissued.

              Hard to explain, but essentially a giant digital loop of removing programs, installing new, re-downloading, installing, removing etc. Nightmare and it never worked out. Just a useless installer on desktop is the only sign of my purchase.

              After goofing around for a couple of days with trying to get it to function, I got a refund through my bank after several refund requests through George's support center went unanswered.

              Also, as far as being a spamming tool, I'd have to agree, but rest assured, even if you did buy it, there would be no spamming going on unless you were lucky enough to get it to work.

              Do what you'd like of course, but my personal suggestion is to let it go. I know the allure is a killer sometimes, but this thing is just way too far from being worth the asking price.

              M.

              Thanks for the info M.

              This is why I started this post, so everyone could get a fair idea of the software.

              Ain't that the truth.
              I know the allure is a killer sometimes
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      • Profile picture of the author KnightAl
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        More ridiculous conspiracy theories. "I don't agree with the decision, so whoever made it must have some hidden interest in it."

        The earliest threads were deleted because they were way over the top in their abusive tone. That was explained, and I was letting the second (third? fourth?) one run, while only deleting the posts that got into personal attacks, rather than reviews of the actual product.

        When I realized the product was used to scrape email addresses and send UBE, it became clear it wasn't appropriate for this forum. We have had a policy for more than a decade about not allowing the teaching, endorsing, or facilitating of unsolicited bulk email. You can see the responses explaining that starting here.

        Nothing mysterious or dark and sneaky about it.


        Paul

        Thanks Paul. I totally agree with what you have to say here.

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  • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
    I want to say that after watching the Monday webinar. This program is advertised and presented as software for online marketing. However it seems to be more for offline marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author adcnet
    Can I hear more as I think it has legs with Craigslist?

    He is going for 2 x payments now which is too expensive still IMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
      I don't know if its human nature but im just completely skeptical more and more. He tells us even in the webinar one thing and then does this 2 payment stuff.

      I want to give this software a chance but at this point I am almost left with just asking for a refund.

      To clarify, from my perspective I feel like in one instance during our "private" webinar class that we are a small group of people working on this software right now and this 2 payment option seems almost like desperation on getting some sales.

      Could I be wrong, of course. That does not change the overall perception I have.
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      • Profile picture of the author StevenUK
        Originally Posted by smkmarketing View Post

        I don't know if its human nature but im just completely skeptical more and more. He tells us even in the webinar one thing and then does this 2 payment stuff.

        I want to give this software a chance but at this point I am almost left with just asking for a refund.

        To clarify, from my perspective I feel like in one instance during our "private" webinar class that we are a small group of people working on this software right now and this 2 payment option seems almost like desperation on getting some sales.

        Could I be wrong, of course. That does not change the overall perception I have.
        Have no doubt, this software WILL have been sold to many hundreds, if not thousands of people. Anybody who wants it, basically, and sent to every single person on GB's email list.

        A 360 degree promotion, to all and sundry. There were no limits on the amount of sales. This 'BETA' ploy has been used for years by marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author adcnet
    Why do you guys use the word Scam - if it didn't work then maybe but have you even put it to full use?
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    • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
      Originally Posted by adcnet View Post

      Why do you guys use the word Scam - if it didn't work then maybe but have you even put it to full use?
      Have you bought the course and have you been to his first webinar? I find what is being said to me and what is being done are two separate things. I really do not care if the product is in beta or whatever term they wish to label it with.

      My example is the webinar this past Monday, we spent time going over a strategy for which we were not full shown how to implement and promised it would be on the website, so far it has not been placed on the website.

      During the webinar, I asked 6 questions never received a response to any one of my questions. The presentation was poor, the information provided was incomplete. I don't know about you but for 800 bucks I expect more professionalism.

      Maybe I am too demanding of my money.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Guys, the reason other threads were deleted is because I think it got too personal. Everyone slating the creator and all that without sticking to a review about the product and not the person.

    Keep your reviews to the product and not the person and it should be fine.

    Anything that looks like personal attacks get taken down. And I am definitely not defending the product seller of this product, not at all. It's just how it is, here. I'm neutral on the whole subject.

    And if people start complaining about the moderating and bla bla bla and this guy is a scam stay away from him bla bla bla it gets taken down.

    If you think the product is a scam, please state why. I see one review saying the product is a scam but with no reason given. State your reasons! I have no opinion either way but i hate seeing that with no explanation given. If you think it's a scam, please enlighten us as I'm sure it will help give more information. Just don't make it personal. Simple.

    I'm not a moderator I just understand how this forum is moderated, which you would do well to learn.

    It's not the forum protecting their own, etc. This forum has no reason to protect this particular seller, not at all. But this forum hates when things get really nasty and personal. If you can stay away from the tabloid-type personal attacks, then maybe some can get some people can read actual reviews about the product to help them in their decision.
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    • Profile picture of the author Donimo
      Originally Posted by J Bold View Post

      Guys, the reason other threads were deleted is because I think it got too personal. Everyone slating the creator and all that without sticking to a review about the product and not the person.

      Keep your reviews to the product and not the person and it should be fine.

      Anything that looks like personal attacks get taken down. And I am definitely not defending the product seller of this product, not at all. It's just how it is, here. I'm neutral on the whole subject.

      And if people start complaining about the moderating and bla bla bla and this guy is a scam stay away from him bla bla bla it gets taken down.

      If you think the product is a scam, please state why. I see one review saying the product is a scam but with no reason given. State your reasons! I have no opinion either way but i hate seeing that with no explanation given. If you think it's a scam, please enlighten us as I'm sure it will help give more information. Just don't make it personal. Simple.

      I'm not a moderator I just understand how this forum is moderated, which you would do well to learn.

      It's not the forum protecting their own, etc. This forum has no reason to protect this particular seller, not at all. But this forum hates when things get really nasty and personal. If you can stay away from the tabloid-type personal attacks, then maybe some can get some people can read actual reviews about the product to help them in their decision.
      If your talking about me labeling it a scam, then you will find I already have created an in-depth review about what I really thought about it. Im now saying its a scam, AFTER using it for a while.

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  • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
    Actually if memory serves me, the last forum post was closed because this product promotes spamming of email according to the moderator and thus even a positive review of the product would not be allowed. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
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  • Profile picture of the author GoBigMarketing
    My big frustration is that I purchased the software on the 25th and I have yet to receive my activation code. I have been waiting for nearly 5 days for a response to my support ticket and no one has contacted me. I cannot say that this software does are doesn't work since I haven't even had a chance to use it. I am almost at that point of throwing in the towel and asking for a refund.

    What frustrates me the most is that if it is taking over 48 hours, which in my case it has taken 120 hours and counting, to respond to support tickets, you should NOT be selling more copies of your software. You should focus on your current customers FIRST, than, if you feel like you need to make more money, than be my guest. But focus on those that have already paid.

    Anyone else here not receive their activation code yet?
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    • Profile picture of the author coloma21
      Hey man,

      If you check out the update section in the predator site, anthony actually explains that all the license keys will be reset today...

      There's a good amount of people who has experienced problems with the activation key, so the programmers have created completely new ones that they will be sending to everyone sometime today ( both new & existing customers)..

      Everyone will have to change their activation key to the new one, and that explains why u haven't received a key yet...



      Originally Posted by GoBigMarketing View Post

      My big frustration is that I purchased the software on the 25th and I have yet to receive my activation code. I have been waiting for nearly 5 days for a response to my support ticket and no one has contacted me. I cannot say that this software does are doesn't work since I haven't even had a chance to use it. I am almost at that point of throwing in the towel and asking for a refund.

      What frustrates me the most is that if it is taking over 48 hours, which in my case it has taken 120 hours and counting, to respond to support tickets, you should NOT be selling more copies of your software. You should focus on your current customers FIRST, than, if you feel like you need to make more money, than be my guest. But focus on those that have already paid.

      Anyone else here not receive their activation code yet?
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    I got the code immediately after purchase, but that didnt' help since the program was broken all weekend it has since been fixed but good luck with the whole thing.
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