Mike Filsaime Lots of Character Very Classy Guy

I haven't seen Mikes newsletter or even seen the price attached to it. I love how everyone is so quick to say cancel the newsletter. It could be a very valuable subscription to keep.

If it is worth the price he is charging then there is no reason to cancel.

Nearly free product? Why does everyone get all hot and bothered when a marketer gives something away for "free" but requires you to pay shipping and handling?

Now I know that the price of shipping and handling is inflated to cover his fulfillment and shipping costs but so what.

Do you really expect people to give stuff away on a mass scale and take a loss while doing it?

IF the newsletter is worth it then keep getting it. If it isn't then cancel. I doubt Mike would make it impossible to cancel the thing. I doubt his reputation is worth that. It may be but for some reason I doubt it.

Dude, change your mindset!

What goes along, comes along.

if you are gonna be in the internet business, then hopefully you would want people to stay on your membersips as long as possible.

Now regarding Mike, I have not seen the product- I am guessing its a good one, but at this stage of MY career I do not feel like he can provide a whole lot of IM content for me... So I might decide to unsubscribe. But even if I pick up one tactic or strategy or one more butterfly as mike would call it from this newsletter... It would mean a few hundred of a few thousand dollars to me- Extra Money -Every month and that will provide a big enough reason for me to stay subscribed.

But if you are still new to this business or if you do not already have a full time income producing cash machine up and running, I am gonna bet the content in the newsletter will have lots of new things for you. Especially since Mike says it has been redesigned and re-structured. Previous one was a disappointment for me though. I expect more from Mike.

@OP: I agree with you regarding the fact that Mike's got character and is a classy guy. One thing I love about him over all the other top IM'ers... he is always doing something new which is a trait not many in this business possess. He is a massive action taker and this makes him all the more believable.

-Lakshay



P.S. I really hope I get it this week. That script can mean GOLD to me if I get that 1 click upsell technology with my Payment Processor especially since I am about to launch something pretty new this Thursday.

So I know for a fact that if I can get my hands on the script by Tuesday, I will absolutely kill it. But lets wait and watch... I am not complaining. Mike has been good enough to give it to me for free... Right? Doesn't really make sense to be upset over it... I was not getting it anyway had it not been for the free promotion he's done. I know, I know. I talked myself into believing it might just take longer than I would like it to. So I guess I will have to rely on Paypal and good ole Slow upsell technology (If you can call it that!!) for orders.

P.P.S. One thing I really like about BM is that it integrates perfectly with Aweber (I guess, I hope and I expect it to) which means the world to me since Paypal will not allow me to have a Squeeze page after the payment unless that was said on the S/L and chances are that people are going to be pissed off by it too!

Now with BM, I believe buyers will automatically be added to a new list on Aweber which is pretty darned cool and freakin amazing.

Do you realize that value of that? For me... traffic is what I pay for. Because I rarely rely on affiliates outside the IM niche products for traffic and hance I am paying for the traffic. Each and every customer I acquire... Well sometimes I do have to go negative on that customer acquisition because I make more money over time from them through multiple mid ticket items. Now if some of those customers are not going to opt-in, it means that my backend will be seen by lesser number of people and I certainly believe that some of the people who do not opt-in after the purchase might have ended up seeing the value in that backend and bought it.

So you see BM can be change-all for me.

This is a feature that is not available in any of the other cheap scripts on the market. they do the job considerably well, and they might get updated quickly, but I don't like waiting for updates. To be honest I would rather pay $1997 for something that I can get and use right away just as I want to than paying $300 for something that works SIMILARLY. Huge difference.

With all this rambling on, I am really proving to myself and you that BM is worth investing in. At least the shipping charge. For everyone. Rookies, Pro's, and Middo's alike. Even if you never read any of the books that come along, you will still love the script.

Might be hard to install, but who's scared of troubles anyway?

Genius is 99% perspiration... As they say!

Besides I get this feeling that the forum is going to be abuzz with people that are going to be installing the script and helping each other out with it.

-Lakshay

P.S. I saw some people comparing scripts somewhere... this post is my answer to them too.

Buddy here's what I recommend.

1. Watch some little bit of video contenmt on how to install.

2. Do it

3. THEN move on to more video installation guide.

I really don't understand what's in to many minds. ANY script with installation videos Should be installed in twice the minutes as long as the lenghts of the videos are... that's the upper limit!

Maybe they try to learn it all at once and do it all at once. I agree its certainly more difficult that way.

-Lakshay

Where is the software and the video installation instruction located? I received the package but don't see it.

Have you gone to the private BFM forum at all? If you have, I'm sure you'll find that while the script is roughly 3 years old, it's constantly being updated. The version you'll be getting if you ordered it is the latest update and had never been released before the BFM 2.0 launch (as I understand it, current BFM 1.0 owners can now download it from their members area). The "Butterfly Marketing 2.0" that you might have heard was really buggy was something he released only to a select few customers of "Traffic Fusion" and I've heard nothing but bad things about that one, but that was version 2.04 and the current version (as far as I know) is 2.08.

You have to pay $300 for support. Which is understandable since it is a so-called "free" script. But, if it worked as promised, should it cost that much to support it? (Something yes, but $300?).

If you go to the private forum, there are people there who have years of experience with this script and many of them are happy to help you. I seriously doubt many people are going to be stuck paying $300 for support when they can find plenty of "third-party" support either free or for a lot less money.

Plus, my confidence isn't so high since his launch was a technical disaster.

If you're going to judge the quality of the script based on something that was obviously a hosting issue, by all means don't bother installing or using it. I just hope you didn't buy it only to come to that conclusion, far too many people in the IM niche have a bad habit of buying things they have no intention of ever using.

I couldn't agree here more! As a marketer I will be the first to admit that Mike knows his stuff and that this shouldn't be a shocker that he's trying to rehash his old products and breath new life in to things with new recurring sales while increasing his list size.

However, and I am NOT AT ALL against a continuity program by any means, but if you're going to do something like this and offer what many are calling a "buggy script" that does not come with the best support I'm not sure it's a very good idea. I can see now why he is offering this script for FREE, as I'm sure the actual marketing information in his monthly program will be worth far more than the BFM2 script itself.

As for paying $300 for support (that many say they're not getting), I have spoken out on this a few other times in the past.....

Why not use RAP, with FREE LIVE SUPPORT on Skype? The script is NOT buggy. There's no charge for support. And best of all you could buy the script, with membership add on, and not have to worry about nearly this many hassles. I'm working on an re-install for one of the the BFM2 customers and I can tell you that I would've been done in HALF the time with a much happier customer, yet here I am at 4:00 wondering WHY more people don't read the reviews before they buy this product.....as my customer is one of the ones who actually PAID for BFM before Mike so politely started giving it away free.

Jeffrey S. Wyrick

I heard Mike speaking last weekend in San Diego at the Mass Control Seminar, he explained why he gave his product away for free, he explained the psychology behind his move and he revealed how much he made with the upsell and the continuity.

It all made a lot of sense and he truly is a Bad Ass marketer. I wasn't a big fan of him before the seminar but things are different when you meet somebody in person or see him on stage learning what happened behind the scenes.

Anyway, when I opened the package of BM I was impressed just by the Butterfly Marketing Material and the 7 Figures Material.
The advise in the folder alone is worth more than 30 bucks, let alone the script.
I mean people received a script that was sold for 2k for 30 bucks and still complain.
Here's what I would do, take some of the money that you have saved and pay somebody to install the script for you. That's it. Keep it simple.

Frank Kern mentioned that there was a big thread about spelling errors in his product when his Infomillionaire came out and he said it's hard to believe that people take the time to keep on posting stuff about things like that after receiving a solid product for free.

It's all about the mindset folks.

For 30 bucks I received some very solid material with the BM Manuscript + 7figures manuscript plus a 2k program/script.

I think there are more important things to focus on than complaining about getting such a great value for 30 bucks.

Just my 2 cents.
mario

I just wanted to comment on this...

I would say to anyone outside the IM niche that this is EXACLTY where the script is a good fit. Here's why...

I the IM niche, we are all used to, and EXPECT to see OTO's, upsells, downsells, etc. We have become rather "immune" to them where the effectiveness is no where near what it once was.

Late last year, I decided to set up a site revolving around a product I actually created back in 03 or 04 in a different niche. I offered my product for 30 bucks and then an upsell for another 17 bucks.

Let me tell you, I was FLOORED by the number of people who took the upsell. Much more than I have seen in the IM niche in a while.

Price COULD have played a part with the upsell being cheaper than the product, but I have done that before in the IM niche and have not seen these numbers.

I had over 50% of the people take the upsell. Actually, almost 60%.

Now, I agree though that you WON'T get a truckload of affiliates to grab your tools and promote. Many niches don't care about that. But this script is not ONLY to have affiliates, or offer a free product with an upsell.

I saw very good numbers in a NON-IM niche and I plan to do the same thing in another niche.

Just wanted to share...

Mike

Hi Jeff,

I will speak to Becky Dielman and Randy Fogg (from the ButterflyMarketingVideos.com site) about putting Authnet videos at the top of their list.

Integrating with Authnet is NOT all that easy if you have never done it, but with good instruction, it's not that bad either.

I know videos on this subject are forthcoming, but I will see if they will push them up a bit.

I'll keep you posted...

Mike

No. Just someone with an opinion - just like you