Market Samurai Vs Long Tail Pro - If They Got Into a Fight...Who Would Win?

What are you trying to do? K/W research? Check competition?

Here's a whole bunch of videos that show you, step-by-step, how to "do stuff" with MS: http://noblesamurai.com/dojo/marketsamurai/

You'll need to run through their videos and spend maybe a good 2 hours getting the basics down. But remember, the learning curve is a one-time investment. One you know it...well, ya know it.

I don't want to sound like I'm favoring either...I've just noticed these types of tools popup every few years and become abandonware shortly thereafter. I've already been burned twice with Adwords Analyzer and Micro Niche Finder. Market Samurai is the only one that still boots up since my purchase on November 2009.

MS have tons of training. The learning curve isn't bad if you take it step by step.
Don't expect to open it & know how to use everything on Day 1.

There's a lot of search jargon used in it so it'll start to make more sense as you become more familiar as you use it more.

What's 'a real pain with just about every keyword tool is that you have to be prepared sit down and watch a dozen tutorial videos and then read a 100 page manual just to figure out the basics.

I really feel the developers of some of these keywords tools like to keep us poor humble marketers totally bamboozled and in the dark with reams of statistics and data.

Thanks god I've found a better way, and I can get on with making some money rather than wasting hours with these types of keyword tools.

well i guess by todays standards they're old, i think i got them in 2011, i really don't remember an update (i'm traveling now so i can't get a stable connection to my computer to check it out), it was sold on wf, it was stealth keyword competition analyzer and digger, sold by some guy named alex. nice guy i was like man the tool works fine but it's so slow!, so he gave me another license to run on my vps, i'm like we'll i guess that works. it's still slow, cuz it's thorough, it'll go through not only a to z but az to az leave the tool running long enough you'll get banned (you know the temp google ban) same thing happens to keywordresearcher as well, run it for 30mins and you get banned, i guess they just don't offer the proxy option (proxy would be the first thing i put in)

but no i don't use skca or skcd anymore just too slow, i find i can do well with a mix of
gkwt
ms
keywordresearcher

and ppl here are right, ms has been on the market for 3 years (maybe 4?) and they're still going, the only problems ppl had with them is with the rank check and honestly, there are entire companies setup to charge you 10bucks a month for 50kw's checked, while ms at the time was a one time payment (still is, just rank check isn't really an option)

someone said micro niche finder doesn't work anymore? damn i had that one too, have a lot of keyword tools, most really just use google suggest or google kwt anyway.

longtail looks good too, but i just have had my share of keyword tools and ms is always updated ever 2 weeks it seems and keyword researcher is updated every 3months i guesstimate, so that works for me (the stealth keyword tools haven't had upgrades in months or even years, still worked the last time i used them tho)

but i guess i should check out longtail pro's salespage at least, ugh... more keyword tools, they shouldn't be like pokemon, i can't collect em all.

I'm not talking about search volume. I am talking about the number of results in the index. I believe MS calls it SEOC. It is an utterly useless metric, yet they say you should seek out keywords with SEOC under 50,000 if I remember correctly.

MS does not tell you squat about the competition. It pulls its backlink data from Majestic I believe. But even then, all it tells you is the anchor text used and the PR of the page.

I mentioned Ahrefs and SpyGlass, but I also use OSE and Majestic as well. I take all the backlinks from Ahrefs, OSE, and Majestic, import them into SpyGlass and then analyze them from there. SpyGlass gives me far more data about the backlinks than MS does.

For example, a site might have a bunch of PR 6 backlinks. In MS, that might look tough to overcome. However, SpyGlass might reveal that those PR 6 backlinks are on pages that have 5000 other outgoing backlinks. They are much weaker links than what MS would lead someone to believe.

SpyGlass will also tell me if the backlinks exist, today. Majestic, Ahrefs, and OSE only update their database once every few months. So backlinks reported by MS, might no longer exist.

As for all the columns in the SEO competition module giving you an overall picture... It really doesn't do that. I'm sorry. There is a reason no actual SEOs use that software. PR, Domain age, number of links, indexed pages, etc... it is all just white noise that the people behind MS want you to think is valuable.

I give them credit. They have done a tremendous job marketing the product.

I just would never pick a keyword based on anything out of Market Samurai.

I use Market Samurai exclusively...after the latest update, its a bazillion times faster than its ever been...I dont use it for keyword research though...I use it to analyze competitors for keywords I find with my own method...