Camtasia v Screenflow on the Mac

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I've looked at the previous threads and seen video comparisons that felt incomplete, but software evolves in this space, and I've heard differing opinions based on different times in the development cycle of the products, RADICALLY DIFFERENT opinions.

They are both $99, so is there something you can do in one presently that you can't do with the other, and if there isn't, which has the easier learning curve and user interface.

If you have used both in their latest versions on a Mac I would love thoughts and opinions. If you have used one, but not the other, what was lacking from the other that made your decision for you???

I appreciate the input because I have a hundred dollars in my pocket and one or the other of these technologies IS my next investment for my toolset, and if they each offer something unique that is lacking in the other they may both eventually end up in my toolset, but if they both get the same jobs done, ease of use wins.

Particularly interested in telestrator capabilities, can I John Madden a website with both or just one of them for example?
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  • Profile picture of the author Marty S
    I have always preferred ScreenFlow, mostly because of it being designed by Mac programmers way back in '05. During my trials of Camatasia for Mac, I found that most good things about it were simply copied from ScreenFlow.

    To me they just did not improve anything over ScreenFlow, so there was little point in changing.

    However, most competitive programs are well made, and more or less, a matter of personal opinion. Luckily you don't have to fret over the $99 for either program as both products have a free trial. In the time it took you to write this OP, you could have downloaded both, with no obligation.

    Take a half day to play around with both of them and you are probably going to know right away which is for you.
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  • I have use both and screen flow is better the #1 reason it crashes less on the mac. Before I moved to the mac I did 100's of screenrecordings on windows for years and it constantly would crash. Screenflow for mac is very very amazing software!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nics
    I prefer using my Mac so I got Screenflow. If I preferred using my PC I would have gotten Camtasia. That's about the extent of how my decision making process went because I had come across people recommending both left and right so felt I couldn't go wrong either way.
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  • Profile picture of the author OrangeBull
    Either program will be used on the Mac for me, but I hadn't noticed that both had a free trial thanks for that heads up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathan Bumstead
    If all you're looking to do is create videos from your screen, you don't need to spend any money at all on a Mac! Quicktime does it. Super easy and I've never had it crash.

    I can't believe that isn't known by more people! I don't even use Mac's, I love my PC. But I found it out because Photoshop was on my wife's Mac P.O.S and I needed to record some training videos.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
      Awesome tip, also loved your youtube channel, your marketing model is awesome! Do one on how you gained the guts to get in front of the camera.

      Originally Posted by Nathan Bumstead View Post

      If all you're looking to do is create videos from your screen, you don't need to spend any money at all on a Mac! Quicktime does it. Super easy and I've never had it crash.

      I can't believe that isn't known by more people! I don't even use Mac's, I love my PC. But I found it out because Photoshop was on my wife's Mac P.O.S and I needed to record some training videos.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nathan Bumstead
        Originally Posted by Claire Koch View Post

        Awesome tip, also loved your youtube channel, your marketing model is awesome! Do one on how you gained the guts to get in front of the camera.

        It's funny you mention that. I created the video for specifically what you just asked for, a few days ago, along with a ton of other content. But the audio was messed up, so I will have to record it again.

        I sincerely appreciate the compliment though!
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    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
      Originally Posted by Nathan Bumstead View Post

      I can't believe that isn't known by more people! I don't even use Mac's, I love my PC. But I found it out because Photoshop was on my wife's Mac P.O.S and I needed to record some training videos.
      You are assuming most people don't know this. Experienced Mac owners just don't care.

      QT isn't nearly as featured as ScreenFlow. If you are going to make videos, editing is a big part of it, and QuickTime has no editing features. Massive file sizes to boot!

      In addition, if recording is ALL you want to do, there are several online screen recorders that have at least some editing features.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nathan Bumstead
        Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

        You are assuming most people don't know this. Experienced Mac owners just don't care.

        QT isn't nearly as featured as ScreenFlow. If you are going to make videos, editing is a big part of it, and QuickTime has no editing features. Massive file sizes to boot!

        In addition, if recording is ALL you want to do, there are several online screen recorders that have at least some editing features.
        Could be true... I just assumed they would use the video editor that came with the Mac. But I've never used that, maybe that sucks too.

        I was posting to help. I am in IT - I know a ton of Mac users and there are a lot more that are "not experienced" than "experienced". I'm sure there are quite a few that had no idea you could do this.

        Thanks Marty.
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  • Profile picture of the author OrangeBull
    I'm experienced as a Mac user my second computer in 1992 was a Mac. My first was an Atari 800 XL in 1980s a massive 64KB system with a tape drive! I was well aware of the ability to use QuickTime to screen capture. The advantage of a specialty program like Camtasia or Screenflow over QuickTime and iMovie or FinalCut is workflow.

    If I'm editing a feature film iMovie could handle it, but probably doesn't have the horsepower I want. When I'm editing screen captures iMovie could handle it as could FinalCut, but they may be overkill and it isn't the task they were designed to handle. Camtasia and Screenflow are built to pan, zoom and focus attention within a shot and unlike a simple QuickTime screen capture they are designed to follow a cursor and highlight key information. This provides a considerable ability to speed up the workflow.

    P.S. I'm rocking the Mac OSx on a Hackintosh I built two years ago with dual monitors a 1GB video card, 16 GB of ram a 3.8 GHz Core i7 2600k Sandy Bridge processor a 1TB HD, with multiple FireWire ports, a card reader for just about anything multiple USB 2 and 3 ports and I got everything, including the monitors for less than I would spend on a tricked out Mac Mini with no monitors. Since getting the kexts right to make it work it has never crashed or hung up and will render even the most complicated lengthy video in very little time.

    P.P.S. I inadvertently lied in my first post because I didn't realize they both had free trials. As one of the tests is screen capture of Gimp as an animated whiteboard, I had to run to Best Buy and pick up a Wacom Bamboo for a hundred bucks for use during the trial period. Started testing Camtasia last night and I like it. Not entirely intuitive, but in less than a few hours I figure out how to do multiple things I needed to do to make my presentations work. Screenflow tests will begin shortly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
      Originally Posted by OrangeBull View Post

      Screenflow tests will begin shortly.
      I have a bunch of free ScreenFlow tutorials to get you started at ComboCasting.com.

      Good luck, and let me know which one you go with.
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      • Profile picture of the author wislndixie
        Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

        I have a bunch of free ScreenFlow tutorials to get you started at ComboCasting.com.

        Good luck, and let me know which one you go with.
        Marty, just a quick technical question, is it better to record a voice script at the same time you record the video or record the video first then go back and add audio?

        Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author OhSusanna
        Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

        I have a bunch of free ScreenFlow tutorials to get you started at ComboCasting.com.

        Good luck, and let me know which one you go with.
        Will definitely check out combo casting!
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  • Profile picture of the author Blogpico
    I vote for camtasia because I am using it well on Windows
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  • Profile picture of the author OrangeBull
    I haven't used Screenflow enough yet to fully understand its User Interface, but Camtasia doesn't have much of a learning curve, and Screenflow doesn't look like it has much of a learning curve either.

    They both appear fairly comparable. Camtasia has a lengthy rendering time for a twenty minute presentation.

    I don't know what the rendering time for Screenflow looks like because I haven't fully tested it yet, but I should know in a day or two.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    No comparison. On a Mac, get Screenflow for sure. On a PC, Camtasia is the way to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author malia
    Another vote for Screenflow. When using Camtasia, it just doesn't feel as "organically Mac" as Screenflow, which can be very frustrating.

    I actually own both. I purchased Camtasia first then fled to Screenflow and now use that regularly.

    And I don't entirely dislike Techsmith, as I use Jing frequently and have Snagit also (crashes a lot, though).

    Since I've decided to use Screenflow, I don't use Camtasia anymore and one feature I love that screenflow has over Camtasia is Screenflow records the entire screen then you crop later, whereas with Camtasia you pre-select your screen size. I know that's minor and you can use Camtasia and select the entire screen area, but still.

    I have also used Quicktime/iMovie and I find iMovie to be tedious and time consuming for screen cast video editing. Well, overall I find it to be more tedious than Screenflow plus I like the Screenflow "workspace" better. I felt that the same videos were taking way too long to edit in iMovie.

    Also if you're into doing a lot of video, get something to compress those huge file sizes, makes a big difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author malia
      Originally Posted by fsonic View Post

      The problem I see is that Screenflow doesn't have an option to record a certain area of the screen. This isn't about efficiency of the app, but rather it is quicker for me to predefine an area I want to record vs trying to crop it. The cropping tools / facility in Screenflow are just really poor. If they fixed this one problem I'd say go for it, but if that is a problem, you might weigh your options a little more carefully.

      I agree this is a feature, not a problem. I have both Camtasia and Screenflow and I prefer to crop after the fact, rather than pre-define the area. Especially since you can actually end up switching windows if you're truly recording your screen, which would cause problems with Camtasia.

      I also find Screenflow editing faster and more intuitive.

      The main reason I switched immediately was because Screenflow's blur feature is a million times better (not sure if Camtasia improved that). I only ended up buying Camtasia because I had already recorded videos in the trial, and I needed to edit them and didn't want to re-do.
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