Matt Lloyd - Build A List Of 10,000 Leads In 100 Days

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Hi all,

I just found this course online and would like to know your opinion about it. Build a list of 10.000 in 100 days sounds almost impossible.

Has anyone invested in this course, applied and achieved any result?
It costs 1.997 so I just want be sure before invest in the right course.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by mbacchi View Post

    Build a list of 10.000 in 100 days sounds almost impossible.
    I don't think it's difficult at all. It'll just be a poor quality list.

    But for list-building, a quantitative claim relating to the number of subscribers is tantamount to an "income claim" in the area of "IM products", and is something I'd instinctively stay well away from, myself.

    To me, it sounds ideal for people with a quantitative approach to list-building, who imagine that a list of 10,000 is necessarily going to earn them more than a list of 5,000 (which is nonsense, by the way).

    Call me a skepchick, but my guess is that it's probably designed to appeal to people who want to build lists in IM/MMO markets, getting their traffic from search engines and several other crap sources, opting people in with squeeze pages rather than opt-ins on a content-rich site, and so on.

    Entirely "quantity" rather than "quality", in other words. Fast subscriber-numbers not a problem at all. Long-term, stable income a totally different matter!

    I'm only guessing, of course. Maybe I have the whole thing totally wrong and it's the best thing since high-heeled Gucci slingbacks. But that seems kind of unlikely, if it's based on "building a list of 10,000", doesn't it?

    List-building effectively, productively and profitably is hard work.

    But not as hard as trying to convince yourself afterwards that "a 15%/20% open-rate is normal, in this industry".

    Which is exactly what happens to people who try to build lists of 10,000 quickly!

    Oh well, rather they than I.

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    • Profile picture of the author mbacchi
      Thanks Alexa,

      I completely agree with you. Some years back Frank Kern made millions with a list I think 2000 people. According to the research I did it is not the quantity of the list that count but the quality. Another key factor is the relationship the person has with the list and rich content (value) the list gets. More value and rich content is given to be list, more credibility, authority and relationship you get with the list.

      It does not matter the size of the list but the relationship you have with it I got it.

      Thank you very much for your time and attention.

      Kind regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author solos
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        Originally Posted by mbacchi View Post

        Thanks Alexa,

        I completely agree with you. Some years back Frank Kern made millions with a list I think 2000 people. According to the research I did it is not the quantity of the list that count but the quality. Another key factor is the relationship the person has with the list and rich content (value) the list gets. More value and rich content is given to be list, more credibility, authority and relationship you get with the list.

        It does not matter the size of the list but the relationship you have with it I got it.

        Thank you very much for your time and attention.

        Kind regards,
        Thanks for this advice. I am a newbie here and have started building a list. My goal was numbers but after reading this its made me more focused on quality not just numbers.

        Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author flipfire
    There's no need to spend $1k+ on a course, you have a vast amount of information freely available regarding list building right in front of your eyes.

    Bu yourself a warrior forum membership and gain access to the private war room, they have some free courses on building a list in there.

    Regards,

    Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by mbacchi View Post

    Build a list of 10.000 in 100 days sounds almost impossible.

    Not impossible... Just difficult...

    I am betting the guide recommends using solo ads to build your list, and frequently, those are low-quality leads.
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    • Profile picture of the author solos
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      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Not impossible... Just difficult...

      I am betting the guide recommends using solo ads to build your list, and frequently, those are low-quality leads.
      Do you think solo ads are low quality?
      Does it depend on where you buy them? I have heard mixed things about buying solos
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by solos View Post

        Do you think solo ads are low quality?
        Does it depend on where you buy them? I have heard mixed things about buying solos

        Not completely.

        Many solo ad sellers play shenanigans. Especially those who "guarantee" specific results -- clicks or opt-ins.

        Many of those who guarantee results use blind copy or deceptive copy to ensure participation by list members.

        Others go to some place like mturk.com, then the pay people 5 cents to subscribe to your list.

        I don't trust any solo ad providers who guarantee clicks or opt-ins as a result of my ad. Those are the people who excel in poor quality.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnyEnglish
          The person named Cory charged $1k for 3k lists.. You just need to relax after made payment.. And he'll do the rest..

          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          Not completely.

          Many solo ad sellers play shenanigans. Especially those who "guarantee" specific results -- clicks or opt-ins.

          Many of those who guarantee results use blind copy or deceptive copy to ensure participation by list members.

          Others go to some place like mturk.com, then the pay people 5 cents to subscribe to your list.

          I don't trust any solo ad providers who guarantee clicks or opt-ins as a result of my ad. Those are the people who excel in poor quality.
          First time i heard of low quality lists from solo ads.. Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author solos
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          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          Not completely.

          Many solo ad sellers play shenanigans. Especially those who "guarantee" specific results -- clicks or opt-ins.

          Many of those who guarantee results use blind copy or deceptive copy to ensure participation by list members.

          Others go to some place like mturk.com, then the pay people 5 cents to subscribe to your list.

          I don't trust any solo ad providers who guarantee clicks or opt-ins as a result of my ad. Those are the people who excel in poor quality.
          Where do you go to get the best solos then?

          I have seen many offers here and safe swaps where the number of clicks is guaranteed?
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by solos View Post

            Where do you go to get the best solos then?

            I have seen many offers here and safe swaps where the number of clicks is guaranteed?

            Directory Of Ezines is a good source for finding them, but I prefer buying solo's on newsletters.
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            • Profile picture of the author solos
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              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              Directory Of Ezines is a good source for finding them, but I prefer buying solo's on newsletters.
              Thanks for answering my questions I will check out those sources
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    Building a list of 10,000 subscribers is certainly possible but your end goal should be to build a list of highly responsive buyers. I'll take a list of 1,000 buyers over a list of 10,000 freebie seekers any day of the week.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    The more I frequent this forum...

    ...the more depressing it becomes.

    Here's why:

    It's astonishing how people are happy to give
    their opinion about a product and service (it's
    both)...

    ...without ever having purchased the product
    their giving you their opinion on.

    The unfair judgement placed simply BECAUSE
    of it's price point...is...interesting.

    To someone like myself with more experience, I
    can SEE through the blindfold. I developed a
    sixth sense and a thick skin.

    To a newbie, like yourself, you're being told you
    can get that kind of information either for FREE,
    ...or much cheaper.

    ...and, because of lack of experience, you buy
    into it much easier. Much quicker.

    "...junk traffic...search engines..."

    Respectfully, It's just an uneducated guess.

    "...opting-in people via squeeze pages rather
    than through content sites..."

    Well, I know the guy (Matt Lloyd) personally.

    And I guess earning a mid 6-figures each month
    using "squeeze pages" is a flawed model. Just a
    fluke.

    And I also guess people who are doing extremely
    well BECAUSE of the course are also *flukes*.

    He must not know what he's doing because he's
    using an old-school model that happens to work
    and make him a lot of money to boot...as well as
    his students.

    Personally...

    ...I model after people who are getting the results
    I want. And if they have a product or service that
    helps me get there FASTER...

    ...price isn't a factor.

    ...because I *know* what I want.

    As far as getting this information for *free*....

    Ask yourself this question:

    "Do you value...your time?"

    If not, you're going to scoure the forums of WSO's,
    free products and threads until you're blue in the
    face.

    After weeks of getting everything...for free...you're
    going to throw in the towel. Information overload
    is what you'll call it.

    I don't think the misleading comments are intentional.

    It's human nature to want to help.

    I would simply suggest you don't think anything
    said here at face value. Do your own research.
    Hell, you can TALK to Matt himself to get a feel for
    him and ask him these questions.

    He'll happily give you scores of testimonials of people
    who ARE successfully using "10k Leads In A 100 Days".

    And...you can contact the people who GOT results
    with the system when previously they were struggling
    before...in the EXACT same situation as you are
    to confirm their results for yourself.

    Dig. DEEPER, my friend.

    I don't make a single DIME telling you this. I get
    nothing in return.

    I'll leave you with this...

    You're goal can be both quality AND numbers.

    THAT is why the man, and so many of his students,
    are very, VERY successful.

    And frankly, you're not going to need even 10k
    leads to do what you're looking to do. It's just a
    friendly challenge to yourself.

    Most members in the program have far smaller lists
    doing very well.

    It's a challenge to THINK BIGGER!

    So you choose.

    If you want to go the free route, you will get what
    you paid for...

    If you want to use a system that's been battle-tested
    and proven to work that actually GET'S results. No
    here-say, then you can't go wrong with the course.

    ...just don't expect it to get it for FREE or for less than
    what he's charging for it. And what's asking is a STEAL.

    I tried to get him to jump the price to $5,000. I'm
    hoping eventually he'll do so...





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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Joe Benjamin View Post

      "...opting-in people via squeeze pages rather
      than through content sites..."

      Well, I know the guy (Matt Lloyd) personally.

      And I guess earning a mid 6-figures each month
      using "squeeze pages" is a flawed model. Just a
      fluke.

      And I also guess people who are doing extremely
      well BECAUSE of the course are also *flukes*.

      I don't know this provider or the methods he teaches.

      I was basing my comments on what most people teach around these parts.

      As far as squeeze pages for opt-ins, I use them too, so I am not going to criticize that method.

      Flawed method? No.

      Fluke results? Doubt it.

      If your buddy is teaching methods that don't rely heavily on solo ads from people who guarantee clicks or opt-ins, then I wasn't talking about him specifically.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrMike
        I'm not endorsing or endorsing this product. All I know is Matt Lloyd is a very good marketer. He is excellent at emulating.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    Only one person on this thread even mentioned the price.

    The discussion was actually focused on the quality of the leads.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Possible yes but I would question the quality of these leads. I'd much rather spend a 100 days building a list of a 1000, proven buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    yeah the most important part about list building is the relationship that you have with that list. If you have 100k people on your list and no one buys anything or opens your emails, then what good is that. Vs having a very responsive list that buys every promo that you mail them and opens every email that you send them. I'd rather have the latter, eh?
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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    If you drive enough targeted traffic, it might be possible much sooner. With paid traffic, that is. Is he talking about unpaid traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author jenmidas
    Some said that the money is in the 'list' yet the actual scenario is that the money is determine by the quality of relationship between you and your list.

    Andre C beaten the 'gurus' with his list of 1K++ people.
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  • Profile picture of the author yakim1
    Building a list of 10,000 opt-in subscribers is not that hard to do. I've been able to do that many times over. If you target your market correctly it can become a very responsive list.

    The first time I tried my strategy, I built a list of over 11,000 opt-in subscribers in 30 days not 100 days.

    In 90 days I've built a list over 49,000 opt-in subscribers. I was able to do this with Joint ventures. Most people say that the buyers list is the most productive list. But there is another list that can be much more productive.

    That is to build a jv partner list. I have almost 9,000 joint venture partners on my list. These are people I have already done successful joint ventures with in the past.

    With this list you can leverage their lists. So this could bring millions of targeted subscribers to your projects.

    I hope this has been helpful,
    Steve Yakim
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    • Profile picture of the author solos
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      Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

      Building a list of 10,000 opt-in subscribers is not that hard to do. I've been able to do that many times over. If you target your market correctly it can become a very responsive list.

      The first time I tried my strategy, I built a list of over 11,000 opt-in subscribers in 30 days not 100 days.

      In 90 days I've built a list over 49,000 opt-in subscribers. I was able to do this with Joint ventures. Most people say that the buyers list is the most productive list. But there is another list that can be much more productive.

      That is to build a jv partner list. I have almost 9,000 joint venture partners on my list. These are people I have already done successful joint ventures with in the past.

      With this list you can leverage their lists. So this could bring millions of targeted subscribers to your projects.

      I hope this has been helpful,
      Steve Yakim
      Hey Steve,
      Can you please elaborate on how you build lists from a JV? I am a newbie and would love to know more about this method

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author yakim1
        Originally Posted by solos View Post

        Hey Steve,
        Can you please elaborate on how you build lists from a JV? I am a newbie and would love to know more about this method

        Thanks
        I know I have a squeeze page on one of my sites that has a 1 hr. interview where Joel Christopher interviewed me on how I was able to build a list of over 10,000 opt-in subscribers in 30 days.

        It is the only way I have of getting this to you quickly...

        How to Monetize Your Website For Free

        I created this list back in early 2006 and turned a large number of these subscribers into buyers.

        I hope you will find this helpful,
        Steve Yakim
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        • Profile picture of the author solos
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          Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

          I know I have a squeeze page on one of my sites that has a 1 hr. interview where Joel Christopher interviewed me on how I was able to build a list of over 10,000 opt-in subscribers in 30 days.

          It is the only way I have of getting this to you quickly...

          How to Monetize Your Website For Free

          I created this list back in early 2006 and turned a large number of these subscribers into buyers.

          I hope you will find this helpful,
          Steve Yakim
          Thanks Steve,
          I am subscribing now and hopefully can find some good tips in there.

          Thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author rohit36
    Successful list building is not just about having a huge list, its about having a responsive list but it might not be your mistake as most of the marketers are teaching it that way.. it doesn't matter if you have a list of 10k subs, if you have a list of 1000 responsive prospects you can easily beat 10k non responsive list ..

    I really don't think you need to invest in that course ($1997 ??) just treat you list like real human not money bots and you will be able to build good relationship..
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    • Profile picture of the author solos
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      Originally Posted by rohit36 View Post

      Successful list building is not just about having a huge list, its about having a responsive list but it might not be your mistake as most of the marketers are teaching it that way.. it doesn't matter if you have a list of 10k subs, if you have a list of 1000 responsive prospects you can easily beat 10k non responsive list ..

      I really don't think you need to invest in that course ($1997 ??) just treat you list like real human not money bots and you will be able to build good relationship..
      Great advice.
      I have a small list and want to build it up but this has defiantly got me thinking quality not quantity. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author sethalexander
    I haven't invested in that course specifically but I've bought a couple Matt Lloyd products in the past and I can say I've been happy with them. He also has a great team behind him that makes sure if you ever have a problem it's taken care of quickly.

    I don't think you need a $2k course to learn how to build a large list but if you have the $ I don't think you'll be disappointed. Maybe only later as you continue your IM career and find some of the same info online for less or free.
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  • Profile picture of the author letsmakeit
    I think its a matter of do you want to spend months learning how to build a list for free or cheap. Or do you want to leverage somebody's experience to learn faster and spend months building and making money with your list. Whats more important to you??? Me personally I would choose the second option. Just my two cents......
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    • Profile picture of the author philrich21
      Originally Posted by letsmakeit View Post

      I think its a matter of do you want to spend months learning how to build a list for free or cheap. Or do you want to leverage somebody's experience to learn faster and spend months building and making money with your list. Whats more important to you??? Me personally I would choose the second option. Just my two cents......
      My opinion would be you also need to learn how to market successfully to a list before considering the values of a large list.

      Without knowing how to market to a list successfully your list is just going to unsubscribe and will be of no value.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlloyd
    Wow... reading through some of the comments here, it's amusing.

    People who don't know anything about me, my business, or the product in question, are making all kinds of assumptions. eg. "it will be a poor quality list" or "it's probably just seo or solo ads."

    Most of you couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

    If you read the sales letter, it actually explains where I'm getting the traffic from.

    95% of it is paid traffic. PPC, banner ads, retargeting, ppc, solo ads, magazines, just to name a few ad sources.

    As for those of you making remarks about whether it's worth 2k...

    I've done my own traffic now for 4 years, and in that time, have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, and made millions in revenue.

    Yes, there's a lot of information on list building out there.

    But there's different grades of information. Most information on list building is sub-standard, and comes from people who have limited (if any) real experience.

    You choose who you want to learn from - just don't choose information based on costs alone - only fools do that.
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  • For building your list you just need to use your buyer's list by one side, and build another one with your free products (through a squeeze page). And that's all.
    There's no magic formula.

    And once you get your first list members, start to email them constantly.
    For example I mail once a day, but you can mail just once a week or three times a week.
    You have to decide. Offer them good free information, and present them a good offer each day. Share some gifts too! That's all!

    Thanks and see you soon,
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    Well, $1997 is pretty steep. But if you really succeed with the course, 10 000 subscribers in about 3 months is really good. Depending on how you got the subscribers, you may or may not earn much from them, but one thing is for sure; at least you will earn a lot more than you are doing now from solo ads. Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Kerryrus
    Never invested in the training. In fact, first time I've heard about it here on this post.

    I can tell you that it's NOT impossible to build a list of 10K in 100 days if you have a proven plan to follow. Whenever I look at product that make big promises I just ask myself, does this sound too good to be ture.

    If the answers a big fat YES...then I give it a miss.

    Sorry I couldn't be of more help
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    Save your money and drive targeted traffic to your opt-in instead. Split test. Refine. Split test again.

    Ditch the focus on the numbers of subscribers, just focus on how to attract the RIGHT subscribers.

    Then learn from the greats in List Building like Matt Furey and Andre Chaperon. Those guys know their stuff and are absolutely killing it with tiny lists.
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    • Profile picture of the author marco005
      Hi,

      @yakim1; your business model is the dream for everbody's who start in the online business,but to build such large list's and do joint venture with other partners you can do that when you have capital,without with the free route you can not build such huge profitable lists, the traffic must be target as possible free or paid that makes no difference.

      But to build a list let's say with 5000 people in 1 year without spend a dime on the free traffic way I think it will be very hard.

      Without money you can build small list when they are target you can make small good money with that and then you can re-invest these little money to grow up the list.

      I can not see another way.....correct me please if I be wrong.

      But look forward, the most people start with nothing,zero,....


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