my top tier business, matt lloyd

Hi! I'm new on the board and I just signed up yesterday. I was wondering if it would be okay if I PM'd some questions?

What does MOBE stand for?

Hey my name is Michelle and I am wondering about my top tier business. I saw the previous guys post on it. He said by the end of week 1 they wanted him to invest about 2K. This is seriously not something I can afford. I am currently on Gov assistance very temporarily hopefully. Anyway this is not something I can afford. Is there anyway of getting around this after I earned money with the program. Meaning make money first then invest in whats needed? It sounds like a good business though and very residual which is something I need. Let me know

its matt Lloyd system work if pay them $2000 and did they give any guaranty can I make big money with that system

pls email me on gtopgun@hotmail.com . thanks.

Hello

I am a newbie in IM, if I will not purchase the MOBE Licence then should I can continuously use this system and continuously make money from the current system

i almost joined and paid Thank god for WF

Hello,
I joined MTTB BECAUSE I am a newbie - even though I have wasted hundreds of dollars on courses offering to teach me what to do to make a decent income online. I have done step 1 and step 2 of the training so far. Let me tell you that I have gotten more useful info in those videos than I have ever gotten from anything before.
I knew about the 2k before joining because I searched this forum. I will gladly pay it and let you all know how I am doing.
Lots of people talk about making money online for free but I am yet to find a program that teaches with enough detail for that to be useful for a newbie...unless you buy the OTOs which often are not detailed enough.
That's all...
Just wanted to say as a Newbie that Yes I find the training invaluable!!

Hi gilsky,
I'm a bit confused about My Tier Top Business. The sales vid looks a bit hyped but it sounds good.
But reading the posts of this thread some red lights turned on in my head.
What do you get for those $49
Supposedly if you go to the end of the30 days and don't earn the $1,000 they'll refund you and give you a $500 as compensation, but it seems that in the middle of the road you are forced to step into $1,997 MOBE to carry on. Is that so?
What is FREE in MTTB? Looks like a scam so far.
Can you clear up this please
Thank you

What makes you think it takes alot of time and skill to create your own products? I create products on a DAILY basis. There are quite a few products being sold here on the WF everyday that show you how to make good products quickly. Who lied to you about product creation?

So do I have to buy a MOBE license for this MTTB System? I thought it was the perfect software>

It's typical pyramid scheme behavior, "pay us money for the rights to sell our products." Oldest line in the book.

Because thats how the $1000 commissions are generated?

Seriously though to the wieners, do you really think you can earn thousand dollar commissions with an affiliate program that only charges $47? Then no one would pay the $2000.

This product sounds really great actually, high end products are really needed in the back end of your sales funnel.

Agree. Cool.

P.S. I don't know where my "Thanks" button is!

Roberto, I wasn't trying to be arrogant. I just don't tolerate it when uninformed people think it's ok to go trash my business on forums and abuse me. It's cowardly and amateur.

If anyone ever has any questions about my products or business and asks me in a respectful, professional way, I'll always take the time to give them an answer. Always.

So here's the deal with the guarantee; it's an implementation guarantee, that states that if a member of MTTB goes through the 21 steps in full, in under 21 days, completing all action steps - and then has not made a 1k commission within the next 30 days, then I'll pay them $500.

After someone gets to the end of the 21 steps...we have a 30 day traffic plan that the member follows, where they get an affiliate link for MTTB and we then show them how to go get traffic.

Is it easy to get the $500? So long as you can show us reasonable evidence you've completed all the action steps from the 21 steps, yes.

The big problem with a guarantee like this though... is that it can at times attract the wrong people. People who think they can sign up to MTTB... try it out for a few days...then come back to us and say "hey, I tried it, got no results, where's my $500?"

We don't allow that. As we very, very clearly state (especially in Step 1 of MTTB) if anyone wants to take us up on the guarantee - they will need to prove they completed the steps and took action.

To anyone thinking about joining MTTB with the mindset of "I'm going to get that $500" - my advice is: don't. You will have to invest time and work into making the system work - and, there are MUCH easier ways to go make $500.

If you're going to join it, go in with the attitude that you're going to implement every action step and treat this like a real business.

I've been selling high ticket programs for years now and know what I'm doing - the people who implement and use MTTB the way it's designed to be used are making high ticket commissions on a steady basis. It works, but only when you treat it like a real business.

Its amazing. A few people are still showing up here, pretending that they are not fully aware that mytoptierbusiness is a complete scam. Enough is enough.

Go listen to Matt lloyds 29 minute video on his website. He tells the world he has a method that is 100% free, where people will make $1000 in 30 days, or he will give them $500 if they fail.

Then he changes his mind after 29 minutes of misleading us, and says, I need 49 bucks.

Next, he begs a bunch of fools to show up here and claim he is a good guy, and everything is above board. This deal is not above board. It is a clear-cut nasty bait and switch scam.

Next, his shills continue to lie through their teeth on this site claiming that there are other gurus prmoting Matt lloyds program other than J. Chow.
This is a lie.

Other gurus are 100% --NOT-- prmoting this deal.

Don’t rely on my words. Go to google. Spend 5 hours on google.

Come back to this great forum and let us know where you found proof in google of a guru --currently-- prmoting Matt lloyds program.

I said --CURRENTLY--.

Every other known guru in the Internet marketing world has deliberatly stayed far, far away from Matts deal. And so should you.

Don't rely on people saying, but, but, but I saw a few guru names on a leaderboard.
Great. The leaderboard is hosted by Matt lloyd. I will put it another way. Matt lloyd has control of what a private leader board displays to his members.

Instead of quoting a fake leaderboard, show us proof of other gurus --CURRENTLY--prmoting Matt lloyds program. (other than J Chow)

You cant.

And don’t reply to my post listing --hired-- speakers at past conferences of Matts.
Hired speakers are promoting themselves---for pay. They are NOT promoting Matts program at all, not even in the slightest.

So when Mark Carter above foolishly tries to get people to leave this site and waste there time watching youtube videos, do not fall for it. You will get all the dirty news about Matts program right here.

You are safe and informed at the warrior forum.

Everyone on this site know full well, the truth always comes out on forums. Like this great forum!

Youtube is -NOT- the place to get the real truth about an internet marketing company.

But youtube --IS-- the place to go if you are an affiliate wanting to promote a company.

This con needs to be shut down. A lot of innocent and trusting people are getting hurt financially with my top tier business. Nobody would join this deal if Matt was honest and told them that you really don’t get anything unless you give him $2000 plus the fake $49 application fee. (total = $2049.00)

The nightmare is about to get even worse for many newbie's.

Matt and J Chow have fooled several newbie's into flying to San diego Friday Nov 1 for a fake seminar where innocent people --THINK-- they will be taught internet marketing.

Imagine how angry they will be when they find out that the only reason for the seminar is for Matt and J Chow to try to get these innocent people to part with $2000. Classic bait and switch scam, only this time, people are spending there hard earned money to pay for flights and hotel rooms.

These people are in for a NASTY SURPRISE. They have no idea they can hear J Chow repeat his life story on youtube for free.

This tragedy starts tomorrow. I would be livid if this ever happened to me.

Almost a week has passed since I wrote the above report about MTTB. Here's an account of the progress since. Although no response to my several complaints to the support group came, the next day (Sat) I received the awaited e-mail with instructions and contact details of the coach I was supposed to call. I went ahead and scheduled a meeting for that evening to Skype the coach. I did and had almost a half hour chat with him. I was relieved to receive a very polite and informative person as the coach to whom I was able to ask my questions and some that had been raised in this forum (the surprise $1999, etc). He was very informed about the system and transparent about these suspicious issues and even told me that the payment will be requested as step 6 (or the 6th day!). After I had explained to him that had I known about that large sum prior to my sign up, I wouldn't have proceeded with my payment of $49.00 and my other reasons why I didn't wish to continue at this time.

Long story short, he agreed to have the refund sent to me. We ended the conversation in good spirits. I felt that he was sincere. I still did not hear from anyone else in the support team about my refund after the weekend. So I sent him a Skype text message asking if the refund is set to go. Though I did not hear from him, I received today a confirmation from the support team that my refund of $49.00 has been processed and that I should allow 2-5 business days for the credit to appear in my account. I am expecting to see the amount in my account soon, but I will write in this thread to confirm if it does or otherwise!

But, for now I must testify that MTTB seems functional in these aspects. I was afraid that my request would be ignored but it wasn't. Naturally, I would not know about the full value of all the other promised services, guarantees and income until I have experienced them myself. However, if the rate of sincerity that I sensed in 'my' coach and the honoring of my refund request are any indication of integrity that might be delivered after all, then I'd definitely give this program a chance in the future, that is if one doesn't have a problem with their license franchising concept.

I hope my updated report is helpful for anyone else that had paid the $49.00 sign-up fees and is trying to get a refund.

Feel free to write if you have any questions on the procedures I took to get the refund. I'll be happy to fill you in.

Still, like most of you, I was totally appalled and panicked when I heard about the hidden cost of $1999 after I signed up. I strongly believe that this info should have been made very transparent in the video to avoid the bad taste it leaves in unassuming referrals and for the sake of MTTB's own reputation.

I went through the 21 steps and steps 7 through 21 are completely geared towards putting the pressure on to get you fully positioned into titanium and platinum levels.

They really hammer home the fact that you're totally missing out at the $2000 basic level, so much so that I ended up feeling like it wouldn't be worth it to just do it at that level.

I ended up giving into the hype and the rest is history-

http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...-disaster.html

Btw, yes you do have to pay the $2,000 to be able to earn commissions. Customer service confirmed the fact, so I'm not sure why you're implying that you don't.

Can you clarify?

My support said that? Please PM me that exact message they sent you... I think you may be confusing an email autoreponse with a real person from support. But I would really like to see that response and who on my staff supposedly said that - please send it to me.

I'll respond to you now. I'm not able to always respond to Warrior Forum threads within 24 hours, because I actually run a business 99% of my time.

But here are all your responses... if I miss anyone, let me know.

There actually is a 1 year refund period with that 1997 program, which is outlined on the sales letter for that program. And the 49 is fully refundable as well.

Yes it is.

Here's the deal: I have over 37 different products... that teach IM topics like email marketing, to affiliate marketing, outsourcing, phone sales, product creation, etc...

When you go through MTTB, you automatically become a MOBE affiliate. That means you can promote the majority of our MOBE products.

Granted, you get smaller commissions than what the MOBE Licensee's get... but, compared to any other affiliate program out there, you're still paid well.

MTTB is one of the funnels you can promote - there's over a dozen others you can choose from.

So can you make $1000 in commissions without becoming a MOBE Licensee? Yes.

Yes. I'm trying to tell you that 'The Godfather' is one of my favorite movies, and that when I set up my account on this forum several years back, I didn't have a personal photo on my computer.

What is your point?

I never claimed that John Chow and Jonathan were regular newbie affiliates... I show their results because they show what the system is capable of producing.

That's the point of testimonials: they present your product in the best light.

Most people are intelligent enough to work out that those results are not typical.

It's like when you watch a weight loss infomercial... you don't assume you're going to look like all the models do.

If I'd said, "hey, you'll make as much money as John and Jonathan Budd" then that would have been misleading. I never said that though.

You've never seen someone license their products before? Really???

I think that's half the problem. You've been 'around this forum' for a little too long... lurking and posting.

How about you show me what you actually have accomplished in this industry? I'd like to see some of your products... some of your funnels.

If I am the first to do it, then great. That's called being a pioneer.

At some point in time, the concept of the drive through restaurant was new as well.

Imagine if someone had said... "Pffft... I've been around the restaurant business for years now... I've never seen anyone offer drive through meals, how flaming ridiculous is that!!"

I'm sure someone did say that in fact. Meanwhile, the person who came up with the idea got rich.

I can name for you at least 5 other multi-million dollar producers in this industry who I know personally, who started licensing their products after they saw me do it - so I can assure you, it's not a new idea. You're just a little behind perhaps.

I'm not really sure of your logic there buddy... no one says you have to limit your commissions to $1100.

I'm being pretty straight with you right now.

Define pyramid scheme please Curtis.

By your comment... all McDonalds franchises are pyramid schemes.

I'm pretty sure that when you invest in a McDonalds Franchise, that is a huge part of what you're buying: the rights to sell their products.

I'm sorry for making you look stupid... but, that was just way too easy!

The system is actually free. The $49 has nothing to do with the system. It really IS an application fee.

Why? Because I pay my phone coaches a lot of money to spend time coaching people through the steps.

If I did not have some kind of screening process in place, I'd get morons like Roberto going through the system, and that would waste a lot of our time.

If you think the $49 is a way of me lining my own pockets, know this: we pay out 90% of that to our License affiliates, and, 5% of that to the Level 2 partent affiliate.

I'm left with about $2.50... which barely covers merchant fees.

No. It's actually you who is misleading people. See, you don't have the full facts. You don't know me. You don't know my intentions. And you don't fully understand the system.

Yet, you're posting here on a public forum as if you do.

If you'd like to be more informed, then you can ask me whatever questions you have and I'll answer. But please don't say I'm "misleading people" when I'm not.

Sure. We have about 9,000 affiliates... of course, like with any affiliate program most don't make a lot of money -I suspect it's because they spend too much time on forums : )

But, you can definitely sign up as an affiliate, and make 50% commissions on the majority of my front end products.

Some people go that route: they become affiliates, and once they make a few commissions, they upgrade to becoming Licensees to make bigger commissions, get additional product access and training, etc.

Again... facts are being twisted. It actually won't cost you 2k to go through the 21 steps, if you don't want it to. You are perfectly welcome not to become a MOBE Licensee, and stay on as a regular affiliate. Personally, I would not recommend that route: though it's up to you.

Tell the truth? The truth is, you can choose whether you want to become a MOBE Licensee or not. It's always been that way. I don't know how else I can say it.

Classy.

Exactly. Most of those complaining here, are uninformed. Most don't want to be informed.

Personally, if I'm ever going to go and publicy bash someone or their business (which I don't really ever do, because it's not my style) - I'd at least make it a point to get all the FACTS.

It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and start throwing rocks- it requires less thinking that way, and for those doing it... is how they get their kicks.

But for anyone reading this - who is thinking about MTTB - at least do your due diligence, and ask people from both sides of the table what their experience is. Or come and ask me directly.

So let me finish this thread with one final note:

I'm an open book. I'll answer any question you have for me- and if you ask me in a polite and classy manner... I'll always respond likewise.

If you want to start name calling and trashing me... then I will gleefully give some back.

I must admit, I enjoy making fun of guys like Roberto.

But... I'm also very busy running my business.

The problem with having a discussion on a forum like this, is that people remain fairly anonymous and therefore the conversation disintegrates into people posting and taking little responsibility for the factual accuracy of what they write.

Instead of it being informative... the conversation becomes a public trashing forum.

So - to anyone who is serious about getting straight answers, I'm going to give you all my Facebook account - this is me:

http://facebook.com/mattlloydonline

This way... you can see me, and I can see you. If you have real questions for me, then send me a direct message.

Don't expect answers in 24 hours - my schedule does not allow that. But, I will get back to you.

No doubt, the space below will soon fill up with some more lurkers chiming in and posting their opinions without bothering to get the facts first.

If that is how people want to spend their time, so be it - I'm going to get back to running my business.

Message me directly if you need.

Since that statement is false I can assume you haven't joined or been through the 21 steps and therefore I am wondering why you are even posting. You are not REQUIRED to purchase the upgrade as has been said many times over. So stop spreading mistruths about something you have not even used yourself.

Your lack of understanding something doesn't make it truth.

This quote comes to mind with a lot of people in this thread:

"Low fees attract low quality clients. You’ll attract those who are more concerned with price than they are with results. Oh yeah – those folks are definitely not FUN to work with either."

Yes... every program and course is a scam out to get you. That's why you haven't succeeded. Feels good to blame it on everything else but yourself, doesn't it?

If you aren't succeeding there's only ONE reason for that... and you'll only see that reason in a mirror.

$28,752.10 in 30 Days PROOF:

that exact same question I sent directly to Matt LLoyd and to his assistant 3 weeks ago and none of them has replied.

Why spend time on following 21 steps???

I have only 3 steps system to make you millions. If you don't earn in one day, I will pay you $500,000. You have to follow three steps though, ready?

Step 1: Apply for only $1 to join my program
Step 2: Pay me $900,000 for license to sell my products
Step 3: Make millions or if you can't make it, I will pay you $500,000

Wow...that's an easy $400,000 income plus $1 to scam you..hehe

Long before the internet came along, we used to run an ad in every newspaper and trade journal across the US and part of Canada and this is what it said:Local Sales Route Distributor

The $25K investment includes "good-will" because every new distributor was given a customer list with at least 100 established buyers and 1 week of hands-on training. Calling that $1997 a "franchise fee" without filing all the paperwork with federal and state regulatory agencies means they'll have some hefty fines to pay when [not if] they find out.

FREE is never really FREE. You spend time or money but most people spend BOTH and that's where the real problem is. Nobody without an establised off-line business and a physical address and customer service telephone number has both to spend.

#1 Lifespan is too short
#2 Takes too long so you just give up.
#3 Search engines give priority to established off-line businesses

Online start-ups run out of both time and money because it takes so long to earn anything when you're spending both without any team effort or search engine help.

I've offered to foot the bill for everything to get people started online but it seems like most people don't believe it, don't really want something for nothing or it's too much work because their whole investment is TIME instead of money but never both.

This guide Geo SEO Affiliate Website Guide shows you how to configure the back end of geo affiliate websites properly using silo structured pages and interlinked navigational menus. The software is already installed on several 3-4 year old domains that need someone to design the pages, add categories, page titles, descriptions and content. Anyone interested?

You pay nothing until you after you log into the back end, follow the guide and then decide whether it's going to work for you or not. Take as long as you like to decide and then you would just pay to transfer the domain into your name and monthly hosting on your own Hostgator cpanel account [$10/mo] which you would have to pay anyway. If you want a Wordpress Blog you can easily add that through your Cpanel.

You can also do a search for DatingWorld and get their free guide to making money in the dating niche. You just point your own domain to their servers where you can choose from several templates to build your website in their network. You get paid commission for visitors that convert into paying members.

You would need your own squeeze page to send traffic to first if you want to build your own list. After they sign up, you redirect your traffic to your dating website where they can sign up free and then your follow up messages can offer something of value if they upgrade to paying members.

The people who run DatingWorld give Warriors a higher commission rate and help get you started for free, meaning you'll be spending time instead of money to get started but NOT both.

I am a licencee of Matts Products and the help and support you get is real I have been promoting the MTTB funnel but after reading this post I may go back and use a different tack. Matts Products are very top quality and there are many success stories. Yes you have to pay for quality. Yes I now have quality products to sell. The MTTB product was put together to introduce the benefits of Matts products and allow for a lower entry level. the $49 entry level seperates those people that are serious and those that are not. Yes I can see how people are getting a little bit annoyed at the way it is presented but if you are serious about building your business then you need great products, you need a great system and you need great coaching and you also need to invest in yourself. If you find this system is not for you then move on. If you want success start promoting Matts products as an affiliate and join the MTTB training to build a business that will reward you over and over. Also it is always great to come on here and see the response to such programs as it really assists my marketing efforts.
Don't forget to be awesome

Krchmar...I don't think, I know that there is no roulette system online or in a real casino that is foolproof. If there is a way for it to go wrong believe me it will at some stage...costing you dearly. I've studied the roulette wheel for over 25 years checking anything and everything about different systems. I would love to be proved wrong though...but I don't think I will be!
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Well Flash, it appears that your the sharp one among us.?.?.?! :rolleyes: If you'll be man, woman, or it enough ... you might admit, that your trouble, is that you can't wrap your wealth lacking mind around those figures.

Why would a 7 figure monthly earner coach newbie ...?

VERY SIMPLE:

The cost is between $50,000 - $100,000 plus.
They run campaigns with their students on THEIR STUDENTS effort (while following their coaching) ... and they split the profits (sometimes 50 50).

Has a light bulb came on yet Flash? I ONLY listed 2 benefits. Newbies and seasoned marketers both GLADLY PAY.

Let's do the math ... If YOU were a 7 figure monthly earner, would you coach newbies to create another 7 figure income stream in your life????

Make sense ... yeah I know.

Keep in mind that what is possible IS NOT limited to YOUR mindset, and what you're willing or not willing to believe.

Right now, as you're reading this, some marketer is preparing to pay some network over 1 million dollars for sending traffic ( and sometime 3 to 5 times that).

I hope this helps your thinking.

Cheers Mate!

I was just about to sign up for this program and decided to check this forum first. Thank you all. You just saved me $49 off money that I don't have.

so #mattlloyd whats wrong with full disclosure in advance?!?

anything else is going to result in endless disputes with those you defrauded.

Obviously they feel defrauded because there wasn't full disclosure in advance.

#mattlloyd guess what? Full disclose in advance is how the majority of the world operates a business (NOT ONLINE), and you know why right? when you have a physical store front and rip people off as a result of your failure to fully and honestly disclose in advance the details of the business transaction , somehow your windows get broke out all the time and with increasing frequency as you continue to rip more and more newbies off.

I agree that the promoter of the list is as bad as the actual owner. I have unsubscribed from some list for this very behavior. I make a point of only buying from affiliate that I trust to promote only quality products. I quickly unsubscribe from those who sell gargbage just to rip me off. They do not have my best interest at heart and just want to make money at my expense. If everyone did this, maybe these negative tacticts would cease.

This is a good question. Are there any decent marketers who want to help? Well, I know you'll all have heard of him already, but my answer would be: Tim Ferriss.

He is one of the few internet marketers who provides shedloads of free, mindblowing content that will help you build your OWN business rather than promote somebody elses.

I think it is because he is endlessly inquisitive and is more keen on deconstructing how things work and finding solutions than making money (and he's pretty fond of that too, judging by the roll out of his four hour brand..). If their sole motivation is money - it shows.

Link to his site below. It's packed full of articles and podcasts on increasing efficiency via the 80/20 rule, getting targeted traffic, etc.

And no I'm not an affiliate. I don't think he even runs an affiliate programme. And do I agree with the premise of his books? Tim certainly doesn't work a four hour week - doesnt want to. No, I think it's too pat.

But growing your business far more efficiently, effectively and imaginatively - he's got all that covered.

The 4-Hour Workweek and Timothy Ferriss