by Gee S
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Hi guys,

Just been researching SeNuke and I'm put of the $127/month price tag. Are there any similar products out there that do the same job???

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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
    Brute force seo is similar not sure of the cost but If I remember it has a few negative comments about it on here but that was the first release I have just gotten quite a few emails to say the new version is out.

    Its also by a fellow warrior named Peter Drew.

    I haven't tried the program so don't know if its good or bad but at least its an alternative.

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    • Profile picture of the author Gee S
      Cheers for the reply Andy,

      Just read up on Brute Force its seems similar yet different to SeNuke.

      Both seem quite costly Senuke at 127/month and bruteforce at 147/month. It would have been better if it was a one off fee.
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    • Profile picture of the author lancelotfl
      I used EVO 2 and now EVO Pro. The program works great and produces results. I tried SE Nuke X and got a refund. Way too complicated with that whacko diagram thingamajig and it kept killing my file download pop-up windows.

      EVO Pro is simple to use and really powerful. I've been a user for years.

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    FYI, I just read in another thread that Bruteforce SEO is $147/mo
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    • Profile picture of the author Gee S
      Yeh i read that too. What i want to do is use software to promoto my money sites (adsense). Im not sure If i would be able to justify spending $127/ month considering I wouldn't expect to make much through my money sites. Any alternatives available?? Maybe lower monthly costs or a one off fee??
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  • Profile picture of the author Gee S
    Cheers ebiz,


    Yep I'll definitely try it out. You may want to look at Social Buzz Master by Greg White (I beleive he's a fellow Warrior), its just been released.

    MrEyeconic
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      SE Nuke and Bruter Force SEo are useless, if you want short lived ranking use them, if you want authority pages that stick don't use them.
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      • Profile picture of the author ph1470
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        SE Nuke and Bruter Force SEo are useless, if you want short lived ranking use them, if you want authority pages that stick don't use them.
        You are absolutely correct!

        The Google "sandbox" is caused by this type of SEO. You probably will get to the first page of Google in a short time, but you wont stay there. Google calculates the amount of links from the date it became aware of the links presence and then compares it to links of similar sites and determines which links are more valuable based on age and time accumulated. If you don't fit the criteria or "average"...down the sandbox you go!


        Google's spam filters can be fooled for a short period of time but they will ultimately get you.

        I should know, I learned the hard way until I finally just started doing SEO the right way. Now my sites have sustained traffic and gradually move up through the Google rankings steadily.

        SEO is an ongoing strategy. The phrase "Slow and steady wins the race" applies the best.
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        • Profile picture of the author mick535
          Originally Posted by ph1470 View Post

          You are absolutely correct!

          The Google "sandbox" is caused by this type of SEO. You probably will get to the first page of Google in a short time, but you wont stay there. Google calculates the amount of links from the date it became aware of the links presence and then compares it to links of similar sites and determines which links are more valuable based on age and time accumulated. If you don't fit the criteria or "average"...down the sandbox you go!


          Google's spam filters can be fooled for a short period of time but they will ultimately get you.

          I should know, I learned the hard way until I finally just started doing SEO the right way. Now my sites have sustained traffic and gradually move up through the Google rankings steadily.

          SEO is an ongoing strategy. The phrase "Slow and steady wins the race" applies the best.
          I just wrote an article on my blog about this very thing. I love SENuke and I use it every day.

          Just like any automated tool, SENuke can be used for SPAMing the different Web 2.0 properties it submits to. The problem is, most people don't know how to manage this effectively without getting slammed by Google.

          I use multiple accounts that I created through SENuke. Yes, it is a slight pain in the ass to change accounts, but it is only 5 minutes if you use simple copy and paste. I submit based on Niche, not en mass. I write every article I submit and I use the auto spinner, but only to make my own articles last more. I do use the advanced spinning features as well when I do use a PLR or other aritcle.

          I have had massive success with this product because I don't "Abuse" it.

          See my article here: SENuke Revisited: One SEO Tool, One Bookmarker, One Answer

          I'm a fan and yes, I promote it heavily because I am also a dedicated user. Over 6 months now and the new auto captcha feature is the best addition yet. $127 is nothing compared to the money I am making from my search engine rankings each month.
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        • Profile picture of the author rizzy
          Originally Posted by ph1470 View Post

          You are absolutely correct!

          The Google "sandbox" is caused by this type of SEO. You probably will get to the first page of Google in a short time, but you wont stay there. Google calculates the amount of links from the date it became aware of the links presence and then compares it to links of similar sites and determines which links are more valuable based on age and time accumulated. If you don't fit the criteria or "average"...down the sandbox you go!


          Google's spam filters can be fooled for a short period of time but they will ultimately get you.

          I should know, I learned the hard way until I finally just started doing SEO the right way. Now my sites have sustained traffic and gradually move up through the Google rankings steadily.

          SEO is an ongoing strategy. The phrase "Slow and steady wins the race" applies the best.
          If this program can get people put in the so called "sandbox" by using it to spam then I am going out right now and signing up for a subscription and spamming the crap out of all my competitors.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        SE Nuke and Bruter Force SEo are useless, if you want short lived ranking use them, if you want authority pages that stick don't use them.
        These types of tools are useless only if you don't use them in moderation and a with a bit of common sense.

        I used SocialBot on a brand new site in late January. It took about three weeks to get Google page 1 above the fold rankings for my targeted keywords (a dozen or so of them).

        I ran the controlled test using SocialBot for about a month.

        I haven't added any content or submitted any links since late February.

        As of today I'm still #3 for my primary keyword out of 2.8 million broad search results.

        I just spot checked a few of my other keywords. I'm still in position #1 for one of them, and am still on page 1 of Google for every one of the ones I checked.

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        • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
          Originally Posted by John Rogers View Post

          These types of tools are useless only if you don't use them in moderation and a with a bit of common sense.

          I used SocialBot on a brand new site in late January. It took about three weeks to get Google page 1 above the fold rankings for my targeted keywords (a dozen or so of them).

          I ran the controlled test using SocialBot for about a month.

          I haven't added any content or submitted any links since late February.

          As of today I'm still #3 for my primary keyword out of 2.8 million broad search results.

          I just spot checked a few of my other keywords. I'm still in position #1 for one of them, and am still on page 1 of Google for every one of the ones I checked.

          John
          Hi John and All:

          What I wonder about tools like this is scheduling.

          When you use Social Bot and SENuke, are you running the software one time for one site,

          Or are you running it several times over the course of (Fill in the blanks here...Days?, Weeks?, Months?).

          I am wondering if you run it all at once, if you don't spook Google about what you are doing. If you have to run it a little at a time, I guess I wonder if SENuke or Incansoft will ever build an auto scheduler.

          Obviously people are having good success with both products. I just wonder how they are doing it in terms of scheduling or if I am making a mountain out of a molehill.

          Thoughts, anyone or everyone?

          CT
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          • Profile picture of the author icrystal
            Hi CT,

            I have about 15 sites right now that i'm promoting and I have a simple excel spreadsheet where I track my sites (listed along the left margin) the various ways I want to promote sites (across the top) and then note inside the chart when I've done it for each site (hope I made sense there ).

            Everyone is correct that SEnuke is powerful enough to blast sites no problem, the trick is to use this amazing software with care and purpose... do that and it's your BEST FRIEND. I can't say enough good things about it. Yesterday I got done in one day for several sites what would have normally taken me over a week to do. I'm a happy girl

            Originally Posted by Charles Harper View Post

            Hi John and All:

            What I wonder about tools like this is scheduling.

            When you use Social Bot and SENuke, are you running the software one time for one site,

            Or are you running it several times over the course of (Fill in the blanks here...Days?, Weeks?, Months?).

            I am wondering if you run it all at once, if you don't spook Google about what you are doing. If you have to run it a little at a time, I guess I wonder if SENuke or Incansoft will ever build an auto scheduler.

            Obviously people are having good success with both products. I just wonder how they are doing it in terms of scheduling or if I am making a mountain out of a molehill.

            Thoughts, anyone or everyone?

            CT
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      • Profile picture of the author boris s
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        SE Nuke and Bruter Force SEo are useless, if you want short lived ranking use them, if you want authority pages that stick don't use them.

        I wouldn't be so negativbe but from my expericence you better use these software really carefully otherwise you'll get a ranking boost ... followed by a penalty. Google's algorythm is way too smart not to see abnormal spikes in links etc... To me nothing is worth manual submitting (outsource it if you have the $$)
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      • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        SE Nuke and Bruter Force SEo are useless, if you want short lived ranking use them, if you want authority pages that stick don't use them.
        It depends on how you use the software. Obviously those that blast thousands of backlinks directly to their site within a short time are going to get poor results.

        SENukeX's real advantage lies in using multi-tiered linking so that you firmly control the amount of direct backlinks created and build up each of those backlinks through bookmarking them...

        I have seen some people use the software to create 3,000 backlinks over 3 days all leading directly back to their brand new website... any automated backlinking tool requires the user to have knowledge of SEO to use it properly. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author seolake
    SENuke will work if you use it in a planned and moderated way. Else you are getting ready for getting your site sandboxed.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhab
    I would first ask what purpose are you considering using SENuke for? Is it to simply automate and speed up the processes which you are currently doing yourself, or are you looking for a solid method to rank your websites?

    Obviously, SENuke can serve both purposes. However, if your primary focus is for ranking your sites, the cheapest and incredibly powerful way would be to purchase Steve Aylors back linking gold, Angela and Pauls monthly back link packs, and Fran's auto-scripts for Steve's links.

    I have been using these regularly and have seen amazing results. Multiple listings on page one across the board. With Fran coming out with his macro scripts, these packs are even better now!!!

    If the $127 a month price is too much or simply will keep you up at night =p, you really need to get the above wso's and give them a go. You definitely will not be disappointed! Quite frankly it would be nice if they were no longer for sale for those of us who already have these wso's lol =p. They are that powerful!
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  • Profile picture of the author rparikh
    which is better seo software seo elite or senuke???what u guys recommend for seo??
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    • Profile picture of the author allthesp
      Originally Posted by rparikh View Post

      which is better seo software seo elite or senuke???what u guys recommend for seo??
      They are different tools. SENuke is gerneally used for making linkwheels, and SEO elite is good for finding backlinks and such.

      Use them both.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tasso Pepi
      Originally Posted by rparikh View Post

      which is better seo software seo elite or senuke???what u guys recommend for seo??
      They are two totally different pieces of software.. Senuke automates all the account creating and anchor text backlinking...
      So senuke makes lifes easier
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  • Profile picture of the author w3bmast3r
    I dont think i'm any easier about buying seonuke after this thread, i'm hoping that its really a good program that just happens to get people abusing it
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  • Profile picture of the author njaad
    read this thread. great stuff about SEnuke alternatives. The point is that many of SEnuke's modules can be replaced by much better software that you pay a one-time fee for.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...-revisted.html

    The recurring monthy fee model is starting to get tiresome. Instead, they should offer a lifetime subscription at a higher price, say, $997 or $1997 (which some marketers take for a few video modules these days). Based on the low retention rate of monthy memberships, companies (not just the SEnuke folks) should seriously consider a one-time payment option. Oh, but I digress...
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexww
    SEnuke is Combination of whatever you need to rank high - but the price is "combination" too
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  • Profile picture of the author Karan Goel
    Hey

    Frankly, SENuke has no competition. And that's why the price is so high. You could outsource the job, but that would no give good results, and might just turn out to be more expensive in long term race.

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    • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
      Originally Posted by Karan Goel View Post

      Hey

      Frankly, SENuke has no competition. And that's why the price is so high. You could outsource the job, but that would no give good results, and might just turn out to be more expensive in long term race.

      Karan
      I know some people do outsource their SENuke and have success at it. I have been outsourcing to for a bit and what Karan says here makes sense.

      That (building Web 2.0 Properties) being the most sensitive part of the operation, I am not sure I would pass that part over. Again, that is just me. Somebody will probably jump on who has made it work.

      CT
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    • Profile picture of the author Tasso Pepi
      Originally Posted by Karan Goel View Post

      Hey

      Frankly, SENuke has no competition. And that's why the price is so high. You could outsource the job, but that would no give good results, and might just turn out to be more expensive in long term race.

      Karan
      I agree.
      Although their are other tools like Magic Submitter, Seo Link Robot, and having used all 3 Senuke is the most polished and automated...

      And Karan has stated why the price is so high and until someone can get the same sort of user friendliness and automation senuke has it will continue to be very highly priced...
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  • Profile picture of the author wwesley
    I think the closest alternative is SEO brute force. i cannot remember the exact name.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave d
    For an senuke alternative Im strongly considering http://www.linkbuilder-pro.com/specoff.html I have all the social bot tools and now just need something mainly for linkwheels. The only reason I did not push the buy button yet is because you need to buy external proxies and I had to email the creator numerous times to get more info on this aspect of it, and I feel that infomation should be fully laid out on the site somewhere, so it has me wondering if there are other things that are required to make this work which I dont know about :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    This is looking to be the "SENuke killer:"

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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      From what I've seen, there is no "alternative" if you are looking for all in one automation.

      And for those saying that tools like SENUKE aren't good for your sites, because you will get sandboxed....there is really only one response to that - LMAO - You keep building your links one at a time, and I'll keep building mine hundreds at a time,
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      This is looking to be the "SENuke killer:"

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      I'll believe it when i see it.

      In order for a program like that to be successful, the people behind it have to be not only responsive (like areeb), but have to continually update the program (like areeb) to keep everything working. It can't be a "Ok, it's done - here you go" type of deal.

      For at least a year, other programs have been trying to keep pace with SENUKE and their "updates" are usually features that SENUKE has had for at least a couple of months.


      I've bought some decent products from Adeel and Bobby, but I've not been very happy with the last couple of software purchases. I will give it a whirl though if it comes with a free trial just to see what's what.
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      • Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        I'll believe it when i see it.

        In order for a program like that to be successful, the people behind it have to be not only responsive (like areeb), but have to continually update the program (like areeb) to keep everything working. It can't be a "Ok, it's done - here you go" type of deal.

        For at least a year, other programs have been trying to keep pace with SENUKE and their "updates" are usually features that SENUKE has had for at least a couple of months.


        I've bought some decent products from Adeel and Bobby, but I've not been very happy with the last couple of software purchases. I will give it a whirl though if it comes with a free trial just to see what's what.

        what's your thoughts on Link Dozer Jeremy
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          Originally Posted by AllThingsArePossible View Post

          what's your thoughts on Link Dozer Jeremy
          I've never tried Link Dozer, it may very well be good....

          BUT

          From what I've seen, they pretty much all do the same thing. In my opinion, SENUKE just does those things better.

          Unlike other "alternatives" Areeb doesn't roll out features for the users to be Beta Testers like some of the other programs out there. He has a forum where in many cases HE answers your question, and is responsive to suggestions, and updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author anywanted
    I'm another one who would review 'SeNuke' as best from this type tools and probably no alternatives available - software who did all mentioned things, not only some of them.

    What's regarding price, I think that good software must be based on monthly price, not life time. Why? SEO is continuous process, software always needs updates. If software sales would stop one day, developers probably won't update it for long. Such tools like SeNuke must be updated constantly, because the web 2.0 sites (supported by Senuke) are updated constantly too. How much should it cost? Well I'm still charged $97/m since I'm one of older members, so don't think it's too much

    SeNuke effectiveness? Just don't overuse it for one site, don't forget that social/web 2.0 sites links shouldn't be only links of your sites, and won't be troubles...

    P.S. I've just subscribed for Brute Force seo trial, will see what's there... Main site & sales tactics looks very similar to SeNuke, but price is much higher. ($157/month, so probably will cancel...)
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    • Profile picture of the author warfore
      I use Web2Mayhem. I have not used SENuke so I can't compare. So far W2M has done a very good job but it is not completely automated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Butler
    I believe that for now SeNuke is the king and everyone else is just trying to match what they are doing. And the folks over at SeNuke know it hence why they update their software so often.
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  • Profile picture of the author mido
    Some are reporting success with EVO2 from Peter Drew.
    It is not not cheaper than SeNuke but has some interesting features.
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  • Brute Force SEO is worth the money, and then 10x more minimum.

    Short term? No. Long term, and high PR are the result when used correctly. If you follow Pete Drew's instructions, you will not go wrong. If you're a retarded monkey, and spam the sh*t out of the sites, it won't work, and you will go down in flames.

    BFSEO is the same thing as manual profile link building - it's just automated, and faster. Leaving you with more time for the important stuff, like content.
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    I have just decided to purchase Traffic Geyser recently and studying its main street marketing modules inside and I think it's much much in-depth to stress within techniques of SEO because going local could be more viral as some of the hidden markets out there would really seek our help to help promote their businesses and then we can charge them with the way services are offered - the more services that we could offer them, the more willing they are to pay in return.

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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    I use SocialBot. Gently, I might add. Took a look at the Web2Mayhem page. If the guy won't take the time to show me screenshots, or pice, then I'm not buying. That said, has anyone tried EVOII?
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Cost/Benefit.

    We need more public results of A/B tests.

    The problem I have with SENUKE is that Web 2.0 is only one of many SEO techniques that give results.

    Directories, Article Campaigns, Blog Comments, Profile Links, Web 2.0 they all work, but real SEO like analyzing and getting your competitors backlinks is just as important.

    I like the idea of SENUKE, but I just don't see it worth the price tag by itsellf. Those Web 2.0 properties are worthless without backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    i use magic article rewriter,socialbot,magic article submitter,weblink robot and rss bot.

    total investment was under $200 and the only one that has a monthly fee is weblink robot (14.95) butit does a good job submitting to web 2.0 sites

    also check out www.magicsubmitter.com its in free beta right now
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    • Profile picture of the author pennyjmay
      I have used SENUKE and others mentioned here - Without a doubt SENUKE wins hands down cost wise and facilities wise.

      There is much talk about the sandbox - I dont believe it exists. What people experience, is the usual Google ranking review... ie the site getting lots of links suddenly and disappearing from the rankings 'temporarily' why Google waits to see what comes next. This is the point at which people think they are sandboxed and give the site up for dead. WRONG!
      If they were to continue promoting in a consistant manner, the site would reappear on the rankings in a short period.

      This is exactly what happened to a couple of my sites. One I stopped promoting and the other I continued with. Using SEnuke and it reappeared within two weeks in a very healthy spot! There are lots of ways to use SENUKE which can appear very natural. You dont need to use all your created accounts every time. Maybe a quarter of SB accounts and 5 or 6 web2 2 or 3 articles and you are all set. Mix it up and tick different boxes each time. Using varied anchor text and when they are done, you can go in and tweak, add extra images, an extra link, another paragraph etc. These extra things only take half an hour.
      You can create layered linkwheels by doing a little campagin or two on one of your web2 properties instead of your main site.

      Consistant promotion is the answer. Just stick at it for a while on one promotion and it will work very very well.

      SENuke does have a bit of a learning curve. Whe n I first got in I thought JEEZ where do I start....? The tutorials are ok, not perfectly ordered in my opinion but good enough to get the gist. Set aside a week to master all the parts of it properly before promoting. Get some good articles written and spun for your niche and this is a great tool. Areeb is constantly ahead of the game and I feel he keeps under the google radar very well. There is no footprint, all the sites would appear to be created by humans. If you add a little clever twist of your own, and dont go for all the sites all the time, it is perfect. It still gives me a buzz every time I set it off! How long would it take to get these backlinks manually!!

      I hope this is useful for someone sitting on the fence.

      Now I shall stop rambling

      Notice NO affiliate link!! - I just like it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
        Originally Posted by Gee Sanghera View Post

        Hi guys,

        Just been researching SeNuke and I'm put of the $127/month price tag. Are there any similar products out there that do the same job???

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        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        SE Nuke and Bruter Force SEo are useless, if you want short lived ranking use them, if you want authority pages that stick don't use them.
        Actually, truth be told, the users who got their sites sandboxed, used tools like SEO Nuke, BMD BIE and BLB and other SEO Strategies without understanding the nuances, ebb and flow of SEO.

        As John stated its about scheduling your runs to stay under the radar(s). Do that and you'll see nothing but higher rankings and increased income.

        Sadly, most people get these powerful tools and DON'T read the instructions and DON'T apply known SEO rules and guidelines and that's why they get into trouble.

        In terms of answering the OPs question, it just a matter of budget.
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        • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
          Originally Posted by Crew Chief View Post

          Actually, truth be told, the users who got their sites sandboxed, used tools like SEO Nuke, BMD BIE and BLB and other SEO Strategies without understanding the nuances, ebb and flow of SEO.
          I've never seen so many acronyms!

          Could you explain what BMD BIE, ebb and BLB are?

          Thanks,

          Sam

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          You might want to rethink that ebb one ;-)
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          • Profile picture of the author djleon1
            There are a few tools that can approximate what senuke does for far less than what senuke costs. I have access to senuke (shared server) and own the tools below:

            Sick Submitter is a great alternative that costs around $19 a month. It has a strong community and many modules and you can create templates for it

            Seo link robot - is good too. I do not think it is as good as Sick submitter but for it does work.

            You can then go the ala carte route and get several stand alone tools such as

            Article Marketing Robot
            Social Bookmarking Demon
            Scrape Box (I would get this one no matter what)

            The three immediately above are great in that they are no monthly costs involved.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tasso Pepi
            Originally Posted by Apollo-Articles View Post

            I've never seen so many acronyms!

            Could you explain what BMD BIE, ebb and BLB are?

            Thanks,

            Sam

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            You might want to rethink that ebb one ;-)

            Haha!!!
            Gee that is a confusing one...
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  • Profile picture of the author g2114
    Just checked out Social Buzz Master that Gee suggested. Looks pretty good. I just cancelled my subsription to SEnuke because I wasn't using it as much as I should due to time contraint and can't afford the monthly price right now. I'm also looking for a one time fee alternative software as well.

    Currently I am using Scrapebox which is a one time fee of $67 (i believe) and now I'm looking to purchase Social Bookmarking Demon, but if the price is right with Social Buzz Master then I will go with that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shemp Hain
      The obvious choice is Magic Submitter. It does the same thing as SENuke and it costs half the price. Plus, you get a ton of training from Alex and no bull**** spam emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author BOWarrior
    Thanks to all of you who wrote in here. This is one of those posts that I actually read through all of. Had to take break in middle for fresh air.

    Lot's of good tips for SENuke(pros and cons) and the bookmarking tools tangent, SocialBot and BookmarkDemon(which was helpful).

    I will add this one note, don't use SubmitEdge.com for any outsourcing. Tried a few small campaigns. Not pleased. Missing links within weeks even though they give a one year guarantee.
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  • Profile picture of the author OrganicSeoGuru
    No matter which one of these you use, if you over do it, your screwed, it's that simple.

    Match the existing link graphs and you will do just fine.

    Any one else use Magic Submitter ?

    I feel confident overall with SeNuke as Areeb is a programmer himself, its not like he is outsourcing the software programming like 99% of everyone else out there and just marketing their new shiny box of software.

    Personally I have made well over 700K with SeNuke and other related piece of software by using them properly in just the last 2 years of so.

    But the software is the easy part, its all the niche, keyword research and competitive analysis that goes into making sure the tool is working for you effectively.

    Regardless everyone has their own way of doing things, but I will attest that everything when used correctly is better than doing nothing and hoping for the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxitman
    Just a note to consider; I am beginning to feel that I won't be part of anything that happens on a monthly basis, or unless it's a payment plan - buy to own, in fact most of what I see out there really is not worth it, it's simply a way to collect extra money, nice for them but not so nice if you are the one that pays. Then again, I am not totally against a monthly membership, but it has to be like a partnership type of thing, a mutual sort of deal, where the risk is more or less shared. That would make sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author daviddriscoll
      I have found EVO II to be magic and a long term stayer - extra tools like keyword researchers, the autosign up tools for twitter and facebook are also great and cost no extra once you sign up (nor do your subscription fees increase despite price rises! The module that automatically signs you up for new accounts is gold!

      There are a huge bunch of happy users in their forums - so the sandbox thing doesn't seem to bother them
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  • Profile picture of the author DynamicIMS
    if you had to pick one tool to help you with video submissions, bookmarking, article submission, PR submission, RSS, web 2.0 and social media which would you choose?

    and would your choice change if you were using it for multiple clients?
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    I always love the to many links angel of deaths. As stated above, we could drive each other into the ground if that was true. God could you see that product pitch, sandbox your competition TONIGHT!!! Take over page one using links on their sites........hmmmm
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    • Profile picture of the author carp104
      I have never used SeNuke, but I have used magic submitter. Once you get magic submitter working right it is very powerful.
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      • Profile picture of the author DynamicIMS
        Originally Posted by carp104 View Post

        I have never used SeNuke, but I have used magic submitter. Once you get magic submitter working right it is very powerful.
        have you had problems getting magic submitter working right?
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      • Originally Posted by carp104 View Post

        I have never used SeNuke, but I have used magic submitter. Once you get magic submitter working right it is very powerful.

        it's a sleeper and product just launched not too long ago...gotta like no monthly fees
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    I've enjoyed using xgen SEO, pretty much the same as SeNuke except it requires a little less babysitting (it creates your blogs, then mini blogs pointing to your blogs, then articles pointing to your site, then bookmarks all of them, then rss feeds your bookmarks and pings everything, all at the press of a button) but it's still facing a few growing pains.
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  • Profile picture of the author DynamicIMS
    magic submitter does have monthly fees though (from their website)
    Purchase Magic Submitter Now For Only
    $4.95
    for 30 day trial
    then monthly subscription for only $67.
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  • Profile picture of the author DynamicIMS
    can you us more about that combination? have you used other software to have a comparison of results?
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    • Profile picture of the author livethedream
      I have senuke x and its an amazing piece of software if used in the correct manner. I can do more work with nuke in two hours than I previously did in a week. The thing I like about nuke is the very high success rates when posting.

      I create all my own articles (or oursource them) and spin them to over 30% which is advised. Yoy also get 3 licenses so you cann even give a copy to your VA in you want them to use the S.W.

      I have read so much about google sandbox and my belief is THERE IS NO SUCH THING. I have had sites fall off the face of the earth for 3 weeks, kept promoting them and they come back even stronger. Just my experience, and as many people have said if you were able to do this we could simply spam the crap out of any competitors site and banish them for ever....

      Senuke X is awesome and with the new wizard for newbies its so easy to setup very complex linking structures and you can shedule over any period you want...
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by livethedream View Post

        Yoy also get 3 licenses so you cann even give a copy to your VA in you want them to use the S.W.
        One quick note here... Unless you have had a VA for a long time that you really feel that you know and trust, I would just put SEnuke X on a VPS and give them an account to use on the VPS. Then if you have to get rid of them or choose to no longer use them, you can just restrict their access to the VPS.

        Also, if you have multiple VA's, this is a good alternative to having to buy multiple licenses for them to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEODude
    SEnuke is a great addition to any SEO company or Internet marketer to be honest.

    $127 a month. One SEO client can pay for that then the rest is profit
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  • Profile picture of the author ayolov
    SEnuke, like any software can be very effective, but you must use common sense when you use it. It's very powerful, so in the wrong hands in can be SPAM, but using it the right way, it is a tool that will leverage your rankings fast!
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    The one I recommend is SEO Link Robot. It's like the little brother of SE Nuke X... Very reliable indeed.

    James Scholes
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  • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
    Originally Posted by G Singh View Post

    Hi guys,

    Just been researching SeNuke and I'm put of the $127/month price tag. Are there any similar products out there that do the same job???

    MrEyeconic
    If you're starting out then I recommend going with Big Mike's ArticleBot, SocialBot, etc

    They are very cheap and can be bought outright.

    For SENukeX, personally I suggest that if you only have a small number of sites to promote that you outsource it. There are at least 5 different services you can find in the Warrior Forum Classifieds that can provide you with a package that suits for a fraction of the cost.

    Outsourcing it also lets you take advantage of their SEO and software knowledge rather than risking screwing up your sites if you're not sure how many links you should be creating and how often.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    An alternative is Magic Submitter. If you get it from Mastering Magic Submitter Training Videos (NOT my site, a site from the people that put the manual together), you can get it for $53 a month instead of $67. This is what I did. And with the recent upgrade, MS is my tool of choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmresources
    SE Nuke is a great program that I also use every day. For those with cost issues, getting on a VPS with shared SEO tools is a cost effective way to go. It typically costs less, plus you usually get all of the top SEO tools. The only downside is that there is typically occasional down time, and you must must must use private proxies as you are sharing an IP with others. For the trade off in cost, though, this is a great way to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author MobApps
    BruteForceSEO/Evo 2 Pro is $157 month. I am using it now. Although it is pricey I have had great results with it personally. I have put many sites to the front page of Google with it. In fact I have achieved the #1 spot on multiple occasions, totally dominated some keywords, getting 7 & 8 of the top 10 positions on Google and in the weight loss niche I put one keyword to the #2 position of Google with over 80 Million competing pages. I do other SEO to my sites to give it the best chance for ranking. It may not work as well if you don't have the proper on page SEO on your site but it is simple to use and it works for me. I have used SENuke and some others (they work ok) but I like the simplicity of Evo 2 Pro and it has worked for me on everything I have used it on.

    Not trying to make a testimonial here...just sayin
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  • Profile picture of the author oconn92234
    I don't use SeNuke myself but what I did do is hire a guy who already had it ( he was offering it as a wso ).

    I tried him out for 3 months and didn't get anywhere with it so don't have anything good to say about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Baker
    Anyone tried Sick Submitter? It is very similar to SENukeX.. 90%
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