The Power Lead System

by raeeck
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Does anyone have any information they could share about the Power Lead System?
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Olson
    Originally Posted by raeeck View Post

    Does anyone have any information they could share about the Power Lead System?
    Yes, I just sent you a PM.

    So far this is looking very promising...

    Matt
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  • Profile picture of the author nyjayla
    I would like to know what people think also??
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    • Profile picture of the author daveinva
      I'm with Matt. We've begun promoting this like crazy and have attracted a lot of people. I've not seen anything like it!
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  • Profile picture of the author tabbo
    Originally Posted by raeeck View Post

    Does anyone have any information they could share about the Power Lead System?
    Curious as to what you found out about PLS. Would you be open to sharing?
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  • Profile picture of the author simonthewebguy
    Hi yes PLS looks like its going to fly, launching late September there is slowly some info trickling out now some big key players involved which makes it interesting
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  • Profile picture of the author puneet
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    • Profile picture of the author Max Fortune
      I'm with you guys on this. Power Lead system is looking like one of the biggest things to hit IM in a while. It's geared for any type of niche too, online, offline, direct sales/MLM/Network Marketing, etc. In fact this would be huge for a lot of the MLM's that focus on or utilize online marketing and will introduce the offliners to a whole new lead source. It looks very strong and has solid backing and is well developed.
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    • Profile picture of the author bernardthegreat
      Originally Posted by puneet View Post

      This looks very promising and going to be all over the internet soon. I have just started a thread on Warrior Forum about it to share the details. Click Here to get all the inside info and I will update you all as and when I get more inside news. I am excited for the launch
      Thanks for sharing this info. Can't wait to hear more from this PLS.
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  • Seems like nothing more than another MLM/ pyramid scheme just hyped like Empower, Big Idea Mastermind, etc...

    Someone please tell me how this is different or better?
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    • Profile picture of the author Bewley
      Originally Posted by mobilemarketer2012 View Post

      Seems like nothing more than another MLM/ pyramid scheme just hyped like Empower, Big Idea Mastermind, etc...

      Someone please tell me how this is different or better?
      It is no different from the above. When will people learn!
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  • Profile picture of the author Garymgar
    You are giving away a free system which anybody can use.You can build landing pages.You have an auto-responder.You will also have a Google Hangout integrated into your system.Anyone who needs to keep in touch with a list can use this.If you decide to upgrade,you pay to become a customer and have a more beefed up version.You also have the ability to earn commissions if you decide to pay to become an affiliate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Max Fortune
      I usually don't chime in regarding comments about a subject stemmed from ignorance (lack of information or knowledge). But I have seen comments like this for far to long and for raeeck seeking true information to make an educated decision, I WILL chime in this time.

      First of all, regarding Power Lead System being a MLM/Pyramid Scheme, Lets clarify.

      Firstly, understand the difference. MLM = very legal...Pyramid Scheme = Very ILLEGAL!

      A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business that is built on fraud, involves the exchange of money and usually has no product or service. In other words, the entire business is dependent on recruiting others without providing actual product or service, other than the business itself. There is only one person on top of the overall pyramid, and that is usually the business owner/owners. = ILLEGAL!

      Here is the confusion for those who don't actually understand the difference... Multi-level marketing companies follow a similar but different concept, where members at any level of a MLM model can make income through the company’s products and/or services without signing up any new members. In addition, members of any level in a MLM can advance past the people who signed them up. = LEGAL

      To understand legitimacy, here are just a few names of very LEGAL and successful MLM companies, worth BILLIONS in some cases and have become household names and been around for a very long time...Amway; Avon Products; Herbalife; Tupperware; Nu Skin;
      Primerica; ViSalus.

      NOW...Power Lead System is actually neither one! This is Affiliate Marketing. Something anyone on WF should have a little understanding of and be able to recognize.

      Affiliate marketing is a process in which a customer refers a product to other people and gets paid a certain amount for each sale made. The payment model is the same for everyone and usually an affiliate will be paid a percentage of each sale made, or sometimes they will get paid a percentage of the amount of revenue from the sales they generated. There is a legitimate product or service that you are selling on behalf of the company that makes the product and they pay you fro sharing it to produce a sale. Very LEGAL!


      Power Lead System is an all-in-one marketing system platform which includes a vast array of features. It is powered by Priceless Possibilities who has been creating custom marketing systems for nearly two decades. It provides entrepreneurs with the tools necessary to grow their business and make more sales, as they promote the business of their choice. You have the option to promote your primary business or Power Lead System or BOTH.

      As for the way you get paid, the 100% commissions model really pick up momentum in 2011 when Empower Network came out...granted, a couple other programs boasting the 100% commissions model came out since then have all fallen short until now. The Power Lead System 100% commissions model with the pass up system and the 50% earnings from the people you pass up make The Power Lead System different from all the industry giants.

      So there you go, I hope that helped clarify a bit. I'm not here to promote my link so if you want to see the video, PM me and I will send you the link.

      Good luck to you all in your ventures.
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      • Profile picture of the author crisstar663
        Just to add on...

        The goal of any system should be to help you in generating leads - in which this does. The icing on the cake of this system (and most of the prevailing marketing systems) is that you can earn an income from the sale of the system and its tools.

        One of the better things about The Power Lead System is that you can hook up your Aweber acct to it so you can build your list. I doubt they support any other autoresponder - they usually just support Aweber.

        I have used a marketing system from Priceless Possibilities in the past (not this one), so I can attest that they do create good marketing systems.
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  • Profile picture of the author JHandy
    It looks to be a pretty nice system to utilize if you want to build your primary business. That will be my goal with it for the most part, but I can see it taking on a life of it's own and creating an addition business income stream for sure.

    One thing for sure that I've seen is that it would work a whole lot better if you had your own domain. That will allow you to generate endless capture and sales pages. Plus if I'm understanding it all correctly, you don't necessarily need to have Aweber. Hey, save you some money there right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Christhom
    Hi @ all!

    Im building my Team already for Power Lead System and I have also started a special Teambuild...

    I like the Products from PLS and I have never seen a better Comp Plan as this one here at PLS!!

    I have also contact with Michael Price (the CEO of PLS) on skype and all I can say is that he is very helpful. The google Hangouts are super amazing and I think this Project will be a huge Winner!!

    See you at the TOP
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  • Profile picture of the author rlpoole1
    The Power Lead System has a host of products including an auto responder, you can create landing pages, it offers an affiliate option, and much more. This program was not offered publicly for over 10 years until now. The CEO is very well known and has created similar successful systems before . This is his baby and he's giving us the opportunity to share in some of the glory of the new launch which will be very soon.
    The Power Lead System is a marketing system platform which includes many features, mostly designed to provide marketers with the tools needed to promote their business and make more sales. . You have the option to promote your primary business or Power Lead System or BOTH .

    The Power Lead System is not a pyramid scheme as some have claimed. Usually those people who have done absolutely no research on the company, only looked at it's opening presentation and then made an assumption. One of our distinguished marketers explained the difference so eloquently in a previous article written before mine. It is also not just an MLM because you don't have to promote it ,you can actually use it for your own business, however, there is an opportunity to make commissions by showing the program to others and giving them the opportunity to get involved with the company themselves, but as also mentioned, this is very legal. You can get in as a paying customer and enjoy all the benefits the company has to offer except you don't get any commission for promoting the company. If,however, you decide to promote the company and want to get involved with the MLM side of things, for a small stipend more you gain the advantage of the affiliate side of things and everytime someone registers and becomes a paying customer under your link, you get paid. The great thing about this is you are probably paying for an autoresponder anyway without the benefit of a similar opportunity. And if you're paying to have landing pages created, well then you're paying probably about double or there abouts of what it cost to do business anyway,only once again, without the benefits.
    Now let's talk about how easy it is to promote the product. You are provided with your own unique link which is tracked with some of the most sophisticated software available. If you have your own link, do you know how to promote it? You promote it like you would your own squeeze page or blog or whatever product you're promoting. Easy, need advice or help just pm me and I'll give you all the help and info you need.The launch is right around the corner and as of this article you still have plenty of time to get in on the ground floor. Now I don't know about you but for the price they're allowing you to get in at, and the fact that you're getting in on the ground floor, is a complete no brainer as far as I'm concerned. I've paid a lot more for a lot less. The fact is if you're going to get in for optimum value, most of the time when people have gotten in to some great opportunities, the ones who really profited most were the ones who got in on the ground floor. sometimes instead of all the analytics and calculating and finding all the negatives and on and on and on while talking yourself out of it, you have to just go for it. Let me help you out some. The cost is around $30.oo a month and I know most if not all of you reading this have paid more than that for lunch before. thirty dollars is not going to make or break no one. add another $23.oo per month and you are in for the complete program. If after one month you decide it's not for you, that was the cost. On the other side of that is, I don't know, maybe what we've been looking for all the while. I found out after getting into this business that there were many skeptics. People willing to go pay $50.00 for lottery tickets or some useless trinket, but unwilling to take a chance on what could be an amazing opportunity. How many times have you been presented with the opportunity to get in on the ground floor of something before and blew it. Don't fret, most of us have.I don't know if this is an opportunity or not. It has all the makings of something huge. The creators are very well known and well respected. They've been doing this for over 10 years and they have many followers. Their website has been rising straight up in the Alexa charts and they rank among the top 1/100th or so in the world. This is no joke folks. I believe this may really be big and I know they're going to be known all over the internet in a few short weeks You have to take a chance to get a chance. sometimes you have to just go for it. Don't think anymore, just do it. Thanks for your time ,pm me for the link Robert Poole
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantoris
      LATEST UPDATE ON POWER LEAD SYSTEM . . .

      For anyone still on the fence about this system:

      1) Check out the Alexa rating for Power Lead System.

      2) Just 2 days ago Neil Guess, the owner of the system, added a ground-breaking feature to the compensation plan that leaves all other networking systems in the dust!
      This is what we already knew: Not only do you make direct commissions from your own sign-ups and the sign-ups that are passed up to you, you also make a 50% matching bonus on all of the money that all of YOUR pass-ups make.
      But this is what's new: In addition to the above, you also make a 50% matching bonus on all of the money that your direct sign-ups and all of the sign-ups that are passed up to you make using the system! THIS IS HUGE! Nobody else is doing this, and frankly this is only part of what the system has to offer.

      3) For becoming affiliates, we will be receiving--at no cost--Max Steingard's program called "Endless Free Leads", a training course on the right way to use Social Media, valued at $297.
      Max has been nick-named "The Father Of Social Media Marketing", and he is a specialist in this area, highly recognized for his leadership and training in Social Media for many years.

      You would simply be blown away if you were to see all of the advantages that the system provides at the low cost for getting it. The free version is good enough, but why would you want to settle with that after knowing what the complete version can do for your business.

      I personally have almost 100 sign-ups in less than a month just with solo ads, and just one of those sign-ups can become so viral that, not only would the system be paying for itself, but your monthly pay would be enormous. Personally, it would be to my advantage to help anyone on my team receive the guidance and support needed to make this as much a success for them as well.
      If you are a network marketer, or simply own an online business, YOU NEED THIS!

      Believe me, you will not regret it! PM me for the link if you want more information.
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  • Profile picture of the author bwh1
    I've seen this several times and always it ends similar.

    A few early birds (usually the ones with big lists) put in money and attrackt the good Affilaites which can fill up the levels, then when it goes deeper the next wave will get a few more and last the crowd which does it to hope to make a few bucks not even thinking in using the tools offered. Who is making money consistently are the early birds.

    Whenever the focus in a launch is on showing how to build a downline easy and how much money you make on the work of others, my radar starts to beep.

    That does not mean that PLS isn't good or that the tools are not good. I didn't joined so can't say nothing from the inside of the system.

    What I mean is that I saw 3 videos but non showed my the tools from PLS, all I could see talked about the compensation plan and how easy all will be to make money off of your referrals etc.

    But at some moment guys, someone has to actually PAY something - For WHAT exactly? I don't know as it hasn't been shown.

    I have domains, hosting, lead page plugins, Aweber, PLR membership site to get content and whatever I need - why actually would I benefit using PLS I don't know up to now.

    If they split up 40 bucks, you need to pay at least 60 bucks a month to be part of the producing downline or more.

    Tools don't make you money, they just help you doing it. You still need to drive traffic and offer something they buy.

    I prefer to keep that under my belt and spend the money on traffic.

    Good luck for all which join PLS.

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    • Profile picture of the author mansea1
      I agree with the thoughts posted above by BWH1. MLM is a very tricky business in which to become involved and be successful at the same time. All too often it is the early birds only who reap the rewards!

      I have been sent more than one link to the promotional video. I did watch it - very hyped up as you might expect; but the final words in it are that the system will be explained in the next video - but where is it? I clicked the tabs above the video but they just took me back to what I had already watched.

      It is not for me to knock PLS as I have not found out enough about it. But I don't so far see enough information to set PLS apart from any other MLM scheme. Most of the features advertised will presumably already be in our marketing arsenals so why pay for them again?

      Not for me - but I wish success to those who join...

      Rob
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      • Profile picture of the author bwh1
        Originally Posted by mansea1 View Post

        I agree with the thoughts posted above by BWH1. MLM is a very tricky business in which to become involved and be successful at the same time. All too often it is the early birds only who reap the rewards!

        I have been sent more than one link to the promotional video. I did watch it - very hyped up as you might expect; but the final words in it are that the system will be explained in the next video - but where is it? I clicked the tabs above the video but they just took me back to what I had already watched.

        It is not for me to knock PLS as I have not found out enough about it. But I don't so far see enough information to set PLS apart from any other MLM scheme. Most of the features advertised will presumably already be in our marketing arsenals so why pay for them again?

        Not for me - but I wish success to those who join...

        Rob
        Hi Rob, we're in the same boat.

        the point is that if 400 people sign up under you "thinking" about making EASY money from THEIR downline and not from the actual product itself, then the whole system is doomed to fail when at day X the call to action appears to actually PAY for the system.

        396 of those 400 will skip the offer as they did not joined to actually pay or WORK on it, they joined to make money from the work of the others.

        MONEY is the reward from something you did which added or provided VALUE to someone else.

        That's why stock brokers go fast to heaven and fall faster into hell. They do not actually work and add value to something, solely making money on other peoples work.

        Some will win and a lot will lose, like in MLM.

        Just keep that in mind when you think that this is the best thing since sliced bread.

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  • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
    Here is the link to the FAQ as well as the costs involved etc Instant Sales System
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  • Profile picture of the author llewis
    Well I usually don't chime in, but it's not every day that you see a product of this quality. And it may not be for everyone, BUT
    I sure wish I had something like this when I started IM 4 years ago.

    If you already have other tools that build a squeeze page great, but NO WHERE will you find an "All In One" marketing system like PLS. And if your business is to help newbies get started in their business, this is Awesome!!

    PLS also allows people to market their main offer thru the same system, with a prebuilt back office with massive tracking and options, an internal AR or you may integrate with almost any AR. Plus video squeeze pages, google hang outs, etc etc.

    Its a total "No Brainer" for me!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MagicD
    Lets point a few facts, yes I am a member of PLS, however I am not promoting it nor using it for the MLM system they have. Most of you are looking at this from one side, which is understandable, lets forget about the MLM opportunity that is mentioned around (just for now), lets look at the TOOLS, which I might add is something EVERYONE needs in their business.

    If you are a blogger, eCommerce store owner, affiliate, social media marker fb, twitter, everything. I run my business through PPV, so this tool is gold for me. Here is why..

    Today I have closed my aweber account, why? Why pay for the same service.
    Here is what you would get:
    Auto responder (30k limit) (Aweber - If you have over 10k your price for subscribers will increase massively. I am sure you are aware of this cost.)
    Create funnels pages
    Floating popups
    Link buy button/subscribe to google hangout
    You can offer the auto responder for FREE to others
    Create unlimited sales pages (manually or done for you sites)

    Just to name the few I have actually tested myself....

    This is the ultimate tool I will be using in my business and you will need it too. Right now the price is $30 if you are just a customer, if you want to be an affiliate/mlm its less than $60 a month, it may increase if it hasnt already.

    I am fed up of gurus promoting their new wp website sales page/optin creator or plugin that does it all,to find out that there is a bug problem or some other crap is going on. Plus once you have paid for the guru website/plugin sales page creator they offer a monthly fee for something else, or EVEN worse upgrade FEES, WTF. No More.

    I am done with it, all in one place and easy to manage. My final point, as i said its not to promote this, I REALLY dont care if you peps buy it or not, this will be inessential part of my business. Hope this helps

    The MLM side of this is pretty awesome. I will save my review on this once I have tested it out in the future.
    All the best
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Lee
    OMG, lots of good responses here. I just wanted to chime in and say I am a member of Power Lead System. I got in during a prelauch wso, and wasn't exactly sure what it was all about. But once the site launched and I had access to the program I can honestly say I was pretty blown away.

    I'm not a super technical guy... So I don't build my own optin pages. What I found really useful is the system actually has tons of ready to go landing pages, optin pages, video opt ins etc. Everything can be setup & done in about 5 minutes. You can have your optin page setup, thank you page, tracking, and an auto email sequence generated in about 5 minutes. I'd show an example of what one of the optin pages look like, but I don't want to post a self promotional link lol, but they are pretty bad ass looking.

    Whether you use this as a stand alone lead generation tool, or promote the system as an affiliate it's a great product and I'll use it for a long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author axel40
    PLS might be extraordinary good, but their web address was reg. 19 aug. 2013 and they say it has existed behind closed doors for the elite for 17 years?

    Maybe then with another web address? Which one and how can they prove their age claim?
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    • Profile picture of the author tantip1
      The main program behind the power lead system is called priceless possibilities and they have been around a long time and from what I read they have a lot of happy customers. I'm a member of the power lead system and for $30 a month you just can't beat all the tools you get and they are so easy to use and they even give you instructional videos on every tool which walks you thru each step which comes in handy if you are a newbie. A lot of people joined for the free lead system which comes with a capture page and autoresponder and they are going to be going out soon. For an extra $24 you can earn 100% residual commissions plus 50% residual matching pay which to me is an extra bonus.
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  • Profile picture of the author JChilds
    I appreciate all the good comments about this program no one has said they making any money with it.
    I know you did not buy it just for the fun of it, you are in business to make money lie all the rest of us.

    If anyone could share their success with the list building and did they covert to down line buyers that expanded your list.

    Are you getting checks??

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author BrentDotCom
      Originally Posted by JChilds View Post

      I appreciate all the good comments about this program no one has said they making any money with it.
      I know you did not buy it just for the fun of it, you are in business to make money lie all the rest of us.

      If anyone could share their success with the list building and did they covert to down line buyers that expanded your list.

      Are you getting checks??

      Thanks

      I am making around a $1,000 a week with Power Lead
      System at the moment and that's the truth.
      Those numbers will rise significantly in the coming weeks.
      My machine has been built.

      I am with the team SmokingHotTraffic that with:

      Over 200 current members (and growing exponentially each week)
      Live weekly webinars
      Done-for-you high converting Lead Capture Pages
      Done-for-you autoresponder series
      365 day a year email/phone/Skype support

      Makes it a lot easier than it ordinarily would have been.

      Traffic Generation techniques are taught in detail that are as
      good or better than anything else on the Internet. And they
      are free to SmokingHotTraffic team members. The support
      and guidance are phenomenal. Really high quality stuff.
      Well conceived and professionally executed.

      Most of our members are doing extremely well too, the ones
      who actually learn diligently and apply diligently, that is.



      Good luck J!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff_Gardner
    JChilds: To answer your question, yes - I'm making a monthly income now with PLS.

    I drove my clients to the pre-launch page - and quite a few of them signed up. Plus, I had some personal signups also sign up a few people - and I'm paid a 50% matching bonus on their sales. In the first week, I made enough residual commission to lease a BMW 5-series, so that's not bad for Week #1.

    I'm pitching this as "A Tool with a Killer Comp Plan" - and it's converting very well.

    I've also launched viral reports, new marketing websites, etc. for my Team - so I'm seeing really good duplication. Should be a solid 5-figure monthly income stream for me in a month or 2.

    Just thought I'd let you know it's paying out.

    Best,
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    • Profile picture of the author hitesh93
      Originally Posted by Jeff_Gardner View Post

      JChilds: To answer your question, yes - I'm making a monthly income now with PLS.

      I drove my clients to the pre-launch page - and quite a few of them signed up. Plus, I had some personal signups also sign up a few people - and I'm paid a 50% matching bonus on their sales. In the first week, I made enough residual commission to lease a BMW 5-series, so that's not bad for Week #1.

      I'm pitching this as "A Tool with a Killer Comp Plan" - and it's converting very well.

      I've also launched viral reports, new marketing websites, etc. for my Team - so I'm seeing really good duplication. Should be a solid 5-figure monthly income stream for me in a month or 2.

      Just thought I'd let you know it's paying out.

      Best,
      Jeff
      Jeff can you PM me your contact info? I've been looking at this (actually got in touch with the owner a LONG time ago). The email delivery was super weak and I'm still getting a lot of reports that the email delivery isn't good on PLS.
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  • Profile picture of the author MagicD
    I just wanted to pop back and give my only negative on this product, which is a shame though. I do a lot of CPV marketing. I run a campaign spending about $200 in one day, only to find the keywords/URL didnt track on the scrip provided by my traffic source. There is no way to place codes before closing body text.

    I did place the code in the video section, headline and sub-headline but nothing. If you do CPV marketing this will be a problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author baza1955
    I took a look at this lead system.

    I have a question,...In the videos

    it talks about a free version. Is there a free

    version where you pass up leads, or is

    it only a free trial for 7 days?


    Thanks,


    Baz
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  • Profile picture of the author whyeyeschoice
    I use the Power Lead System and I am very impressed with the simplicity of This Powerful Marketing System. I have been using the splash pages, the postcards, checking the tracking, where the traffic is coming from and much more. These are just SOME of the Tools the Power Lead System is Bringing to the table...keep in mind i haven't mentioned all of them. So I just have a simple question...Why would someone who hasn't USED the Power Lead System Have such a strong opinion on something they haven't had First Hand Experience with or FULL KNOWLEDGE of?...Just a Question!....Oh Yeah...did i mention i am in profit already after 1 Month's Upgrade...because my downline is promoting this powerful Lead System...Wanna Know WHY?...IT WORKS!
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    • Profile picture of the author baza1955
      Thanks for the info whyeyeschoice.

      Am I correct in assuming there is no extended free version,
      just the 7 day trial? It looks like a well put together product...
      but I haven't activated an account yet.

      Thanks,
      Baz
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      • Profile picture of the author profitclinic
        The issue isn't whether there's a solid product or not.

        It's not whether or not PLS is an MLM program or not.

        The bottom line is whether the compensation plan requires you to make a personal purchase in order to qualify for rewards on the purchases of those you refer to the vendor.

        That's the first test regulators in almost all countries use to identify illegal pyramid selling and referral selling schemes.

        I was impressed by all the presentations. So I signed up for a free trial. So far, so good.

        But then, when I wanted to sign up as an affiliate and earn rewards, I discovered that I would need to pay an "administration fee" each month that was almost identical to the cost of the product/service being sold by affiliates.

        And that's when I realised where the money was coming from to pay those attractive bonuses. The truth is, there's just not enough money in the product price to pay the kind of bonuses being promised to affiliates.

        I create compensation plans for direct selling companies in Australia, the USA and Asia. I've been doing it professionally for almost 30 years. I'm keenly aware of the various laws and regulations around the world.

        It's my view that it's simple a question of WHEN (not IF) the regulators come calling on Power Leads System.

        It doesn't matter to regulators what you call your system. It's what you DO, not what you SAY you do that ends up in court.

        I was bitterly disappointed that this reality wasn't made public until you'd already committed to a free trial and taken the required steps to become an affiliate. That suggests that the people behind the system know exactly what they're doing -- and know that attention in that direction needs to be redirected, deflected or minimised, with good cause.

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        • Profile picture of the author bwh1
          Originally Posted by profitclinic View Post

          The issue isn't whether there's a solid product or not.

          It's not whether or not PLS is an MLM program or not.

          The bottom line is whether the compensation plan requires you to make a personal purchase in order to qualify for rewards on the purchases of those you refer to the vendor.

          That's the first test regulators in almost all countries use to identify illegal pyramid selling and referral selling schemes.

          I was impressed by all the presentations. So I signed up for a free trial. So far, so good.

          But then, when I wanted to sign up as an affiliate and earn rewards, I discovered that I would need to pay an "administration fee" each month that was almost identical to the cost of the product/service being sold by affiliates.

          And that's when I realised where the money was coming from to pay those attractive bonuses. The truth is, there's just not enough money in the product price to pay the kind of bonuses being promised to affiliates.

          I create compensation plans for direct selling companies in Australia, the USA and Asia. I've been doing it professionally for almost 30 years. I'm keenly aware of the various laws and regulations around the world.

          It's my view that it's simple a question of WHEN (not IF) the regulators come calling on Power Leads System.

          It doesn't matter to regulators what you call your system. It's what you DO, not what you SAY you do that ends up in court.

          I was bitterly disappointed that this reality wasn't made public until you'd already committed to a free trial and taken the required steps to become an affiliate. That suggests that the people behind the system know exactly what they're doing -- and know that attention in that direction needs to be redirected, deflected or minimised, with good cause.

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          Thanks that there are some sane people in here able to see it as it is.

          PLS (Pyramid Lead System?) is doomed to fail over the long haul and I'm sorry for those who invested their time and money into it.

          Whenever a product is heavily promoted on the theory of making lot's of money without to work for it and where the actual product involved is hardly presented you should turn on your BS radar.

          Have seen this so many times before, offline and online.

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          • Profile picture of the author BrentDotCom
            Originally Posted by bwh1 View Post

            Thanks that there are some sane people in here able to see it as it is.

            PLS (Pyramid Lead System?) is doomed to fail over the long haul and I'm sorry for those who invested their time and money into it.

            Whenever a product is heavily promoted on the theory of making lot's of money without to work for it and where the actual product involved is hardly presented you should turn on your BS radar.

            Have seen this so many times before, offline and online.

            G.
            So says the man who want to be called EASYCASH". LOL. Good stuff.

            I do agree with the bolded part of your post, though, except for the part about PLS Product being "hardly presented". It is thoroughly presented. Nothing is hidden.

            Whoever says Power Lead System is easy is a mouth-breathing moron.
            It takes work like everything else online or offline.

            But of course EVERY product has the morons who try to convince everybody it's easy.

            Amazon affiliate, email marketing, solo ads, FB ads, SEO, local sites.....Relax everybody, it's easy! Bullsh!t. It all takes a work ethic to properly learn, set up and maintain.

            I'd be careful before so eagerly agreeing with our buddy, profitclinic. He is flat out wrong about the pay structure.
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            • Profile picture of the author bwh1
              Originally Posted by BrentDotCom View Post

              Whoever says Power Lead System is easy is a mouth-breathing moron.
              It takes work like everything else online or offline.
              I have to respect your opinion as it seams that you are part of PLS and I'm not. You off course know more from the inside then I do.

              But your statement above was EXACTLY what PLS did when they offered the Free Product in the pre-launch phase.

              I assisted 3 videos as far as I can remember, all about the "financial part of the system" explaining how to make easy money from your referrals (or was it downline, can't remember), not one of the videos showed us what the PLS was actually about.

              And it had more then 2 tiers to make you money, I'm sure to remember that part. It can be that now this has been limited and only the pre-launch members got that option.

              I posted in that pre launch thread asking what this is all about and where the video is which was announced to show the actual "product" - no reply.

              That's when I decided to skip the offer. People had no clue what the PLS was all about other then knowing that they can earn a nice penny inviting all their friends and leads.

              And about the definition of a Pyramid System, as profitclinic mentioned, things changed a bit in the last few years.

              If you are called to pay a fee to be part of a system which then is distributed to your upline, then it's already considered a pyramid. Not relevant how many tiers it has to YOU, because you have to see it as a whole structure including all your upline what makes you understand why it's a pyramid (visually recognizable).

              The fee is not for the product you get to use (as I remember it was free), it's for being part of the money distribution system.

              Europe and I'm sure the US etc. are hitting those systems VERY hard. Check out the definition of it here

              Pyramid scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              Well, we can argue years what's right or wrong and never agree so every one has to follow his instincts.

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        • Profile picture of the author BrentDotCom
          Originally Posted by profitclinic View Post

          The issue isn’t whether there's a solid product or not.

          It's not whether or not PLS is an MLM program or not.

          The bottom line is whether the compensation plan requires you to make a personal purchase in order to qualify for rewards on the purchases of those you refer to the vendor.

          That's the first test regulators in almost all countries use to identify illegal pyramid selling and referral selling schemes.

          I was impressed by all the presentations. So I signed up for a free trial. So far, so good.

          But then, when I wanted to sign up as an affiliate and earn rewards, I discovered that I would need to pay an “administration fee” each month that was almost identical to the cost of the product/service being sold by affiliates.

          And that's when I realised where the money was coming from to pay those attractive bonuses. The truth is, there's just not enough money in the product price to pay the kind of bonuses being promised to affiliates.

          I create compensation plans for direct selling companies in Australia, the USA and Asia. I've been doing it professionally for almost 30 years. I’m keenly aware of the various laws and regulations around the world.

          It’s my view that it's simple a question of WHEN (not IF) the regulators come calling on Power Leads System.

          It doesn't matter to regulators what you call your system. It's what you DO, not what you SAY you do that ends up in court.

          I was bitterly disappointed that this reality wasn't made public until you’d already committed to a free trial and taken the required steps to become an affiliate. That suggests that the people behind the system know exactly what they're doing — and know that attention in that direction needs to be redirected, deflected or minimised, with good cause.

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          And here we go...Someone making a comment who has absolutely no idea what the hell he is talking about.... And even worse, painting himself as if he is an EXPERT on the subject and is uniquely qualified to get errbody learned up.

          It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic. Was this just ineptitude and laziness on your part, or are you trolling purposefully?

          The $30 product price pays the affiliates completely. It pays them on two levels only. One person gets $20 and the other person gets $10. That's it. 100% commission structure. Two-tiered affiliate system. Simple enough.

          Perhaps you are confused into thinking that the 50% matching bonus goes to infinite levels. It does not. $20 goes to the Sponsor and $10 (which is the 50% matching bonus) goes to the Sponsor's sponsor. No additional bonuses. End of story.

          Of course you would know that if you had done the required research.
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      • Profile picture of the author donnob
        Originally Posted by baza1955 View Post

        Thanks for the info whyeyeschoice.

        Am I correct in assuming there is no extended free version,
        just the 7 day trial? It looks like a well put together product...
        but I haven't activated an account yet.

        Thanks,
        Baz
        No, your assumption is not correct. There is a free version and you never have to upgrade but the free version or option is very limited. The option that is free is called the Free Lead System or FLS. A member of FLS is given a lead capture page that they can use to promote any business they want. Plus... it helps them to build a list. Here is how it works...

        1) The FLS member advertises a Free Lead Generating System.
        2) Prospects opt in to learn more about the FLS and they also get information about the FLS member's business.
        3) If the prospect joins FLS then half of the leads that they generate are passed up to their sponsor.

        The option that is not free is the Power Lead System or PLS. A PLS member gets as many lead capture pages as they want to promote as many businesses as they want. They can build as many lists as they want. The lists are tied to an autoresponder so they can create follow-up email campaigns and also send email broadcasts. They do NOT have to pass up any leads. It costs $30 per month to become a PLS member.

        PLS members have the option to become a PLS affiliate for $23.97 per month so they can earn commissions on PLS. They earn $20 per month for every PLS member on their payline. They earn a 50% Matching Bonus on personally sponsored PLS members even if they are passed up to their sponsor. This is MUCH better than earning NOTHING on the people you pass up to your sponsor! PLS members pass up their 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th and every 5th personally sponsored PLS member thereafter (15th, 20th, etc.) to their sponsor. As you can see... it is possible to earn a lot of money as a PLS affiliate.

        Of course like any program you will need to be able to drive traffic in order to make money. That is why it is so important to join the right team. I joined with a team that teaches you how to drive traffic and they also provide support. The best part is... it costs you NOTHING! The training and support is not just for PLS (Power Lead System) members but for FLS (Free Lead System) members as well. You can use what you learn about driving traffic for ANY online business!
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  • Profile picture of the author goodewealth
    @profitclinic I have a question. You have a strong sense that the Power Lead System will meet legal issues.....have you looked at Empower? They too have an admin cost before you complete whatever level you decide to be in. I do believe the people behind systems deserve to be compensated for their creations and therefore pass them on to help people as a whole. The services they provide are parallel to those trying to build lists, branding and reputation in this industry. I have made money here but not with Empower and I went all in! But guess what I can not do anything with all those interviews with people just talking about what they have accomplished with the various marketing that they have done. That is what I got for my $1500 dollars with Empower and no concrete definitive working systems to promote it. Duplicate affiliate sites did not work and I came in when it first started. But with this system I am actually making enough to pay a couple of bills within my home. Hummmmm $50 bucks=pay some monthly bills with tools to actually help me in business and $1525= $0 something to think on and by the way I was told when I joined EN when I first joined to blog everyday for thirty days.....I did it and committed to it faithfully.......hogwash!! Just speaking on my experience....but I would rather be told the admin costs up front instead of having them placed in as "hidden fees". I just think if we calling one out .....we might need to look at everyone in this business.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
      Thanks for sharing.

      Yes, it's obvious to see where the 2 David's come from and their backgrounf. The fact that they have screwed over the multitudes and continue to do so is simply criminal.

      Originally Posted by goodewealth View Post

      @profitclinic I have a question. You have a strong sense that the Power Lead System will meet legal issues.....have you looked at Empower? They too have an admin cost before you complete whatever level you decide to be in. I do believe the people behind systems deserve to be compensated for their creations and therefore pass them on to help people as a whole. The services they provide are parallel to those trying to build lists, branding and reputation in this industry. I have made money here but not with Empower and I went all in! But guess what I can not do anything with all those interviews with people just talking about what they have accomplished with the various marketing that they have done. That is what I got for my $1500 dollars with Empower and no concrete definitive working systems to promote it. Duplicate affiliate sites did not work and I came in when it first started. But with this system I am actually making enough to pay a couple of bills within my home. Hummmmm $50 bucks=pay some monthly bills with tools to actually help me in business and $1525= $0 something to think on and by the way I was told when I joined EN when I first joined to blog everyday for thirty days.....I did it and committed to it faithfully.......hogwash!! Just speaking on my experience....but I would rather be told the admin costs up front instead of having them placed in as "hidden fees". I just think if we calling one out .....we might need to look at everyone in this business.
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  • Profile picture of the author tabius
    I in fact like the system also. It was costing a lot just to have a auto-responder and tracking ads.
    The system does both. I could use some advice as far as wso products to run thru it that has follow up messages to load in auto-responder.

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  • Profile picture of the author garyt
    PLS is an MLM scheme, not a pyramid.

    Quote from Pyramid scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "The United States Federal Trade Commission (FTC) warns "Not all multilevel marketing plans are legitimate. Some are pyramid schemes. It’s best not to get involved in plans where the money you make is based primarily on the number of distributors you recruit and your sales to them, rather than on your sales to people outside the plan who intend to use the products."[37]"

    In PLS, the money you make as an affiliate, is mostly from your sale of the system plus a % of the sale of the system by your referred affiliates. The fees paid by all affiliates goes to the company. not to referring affiliates.

    Thus, as an affiliate, you make money selling the system to real users and also make money when some you referred (your "downline") sells the system. So, there are real sales and the system actually works. I used it to promote my other affiliate programs as they have a lead page and sales page creator plus autoresponder and tracking feature.

    I am not making money yet with PLS as a biz opp but I find the product really good and will definitely stay as a paid member. Sooner or later, I will make money as it is a good product that marketers will want.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrentDotCom
      Originally Posted by garyt View Post

      PLS is an MLM scheme, not a pyramid.

      Quote from Pyramid scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      "The United States Federal Trade Commission (FTC) warns "Not all multilevel marketing plans are legitimate. Some are pyramid schemes. It's best not to get involved in plans where the money you make is based primarily on the number of distributors you recruit and your sales to them, rather than on your sales to people outside the plan who intend to use the products."[37]"

      In PLS, the money you make as an affiliate, is mostly from your sale of the system plus a % of the sale of the system by your referred affiliates. The fees paid by all affiliates goes to the company. not to referring affiliates.

      Thus, as an affiliate, you make money selling the system to real users and also make money when some you referred (your "downline") sells the system. So, there are real sales and the system actually works. I used it to promote my other affiliate programs as they have a lead page and sales page creator plus autoresponder and tracking feature.

      I am not making money yet with PLS as a biz opp but I find the product really good and will definitely stay as a paid member. Sooner or later, I will make money as it is a good product that marketers will want.
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  • Profile picture of the author franc24
    HI,, is this discussion still active?? can anyone here be able to talk to about the PLS?
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  • Profile picture of the author terrys
    I signed up for PLS during the pre-launch as a result of purchasing Jamison Palmer's WSO touting "$100-$300 a day in 60 days." (No clue now where THAT income was supposed to come from...) The basis of Jamison's WSO was "build a list and put good offers in front of people." PLS was the first offer.

    Three months later I'm debating whether or not to stay involved.

    1. When I asked originally was this MLM, the response was "This is not MLM. This is a new type of leveraged compensation plan."

    That was a lie. It is absolutely MLM.

    2. Is PLS a good product?

    I would say yes, it appears to be. The system itself is an autoresponder with built-in sales funnels — lead-capture and landing pages — contact management system and ad tracking. The "done for you" lead-capture and landing pages are for promoting PLS...either the free version or the more robust paid version. ($30/month) There are options to create your own pages to promote whatever you want, but obviously those are not "done for you." There have been some issues with the autoresponder, but these seem to be being resolved.

    3. Purchase a domain name and PLS hosts it for you without cost (except for annual domain-name renewal). Of course, that kind of handcuffs you to the system.

    4. You can earn commissions by paying an extra $24/month to become an affiliate and participate in the MLM compensation plan.

    5. The company behind PLS has apparently been in business 17+ years and provided contact-management systems for big clients. To say that PLS has been in use for 17 years is questionable. The parts have been stabilizing and being developed since the pre-launch. On a positive note, the company continues to add new features.

    Congratulations to BrentDotCom for making $1,000 a week already. But I have to wonder whether this is not the result of already having access to an existing MLM member force to import? There are a LOT of people in the private forum reporting lots of click-throughs from purchased traffic, few opt-ins and no sign-ups...people who have been applying themselves diligently. This may improve now that the free system finally is available for promotion.

    Bottom line: I have mixed feelings about PLS. The system appears to be good, but the MLM hype and structure turn me off.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert T Jillie
      I have been using PLS for about a month now and have had good results. I signed on as an affiliate and have been getting signups on a regular basis doing banner ads and I just started a Solo Ad campaign that I think will do well.

      I also have been using PLS to drive sign ups to several of my own websites and getting decent results there as well. Banner ads and Guest Blog Posts for my own offers.

      Hope this hepls!
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    • Profile picture of the author BrentDotCom
      Originally Posted by terrys View Post


      That was a lie. It is absolutely MLM.
      It is a two-tier affiliate system and as such doesn't
      suffer from the frailties of a system that pays on unlimited levels.

      The primary affiliate gets the lion's share, and the other affiliate gets
      a half portion. That's it. It IS residual, but only slightly so. And if a person was thinking, "Oh, it's two levels, and multi- means more than one, so it IS an MLM", that would be simplistic and a failure to recognize important key differences between the two compensation structures. PLS would probably best be described as a "hybrid affiliate system".



      Originally Posted by terrys View Post

      Congratulations to BrentDotCom for making $1,000 a week already. But I have to wonder whether this is not the result of already having access to an existing MLM member force to import?
      I came in without a list, but with vast knowledge and experience in driving traffic. All the members of my team, SmokingHotTraffic, who apply my methods are doing well (of course there will always be a contingent who want rewards without the work, but such is IM).

      Then again, I'm sure my methods are different than that of other teams. SmokingHotTraffic is essentially a definitive master course in traffic generation, and we provide 365 day a year phone/Skype/email support and guidance.
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  • Profile picture of the author goodewealth
    @terry....one suggestion maybe as this is what helped me and many others. There is so many different ways to promote your business via PLS I too came into PLS via Jamison's funnel of Insiders####### and you know what...... from the beginning he has expressed that this was about building a business via building your list as you will be able to promote anything to this list. He just used PLS as a vehicle to capitalize on while instructing new sign-ups in. Everyone does this with list building....give you something to possibly capitalize on while building their businesses. That is the concept. But, my suggestion is to find something that you like to do deligently for marketing and focus on it and stick with it. Jamison is a big fan of solo ads....he truly has the pockets for it so that may not suite everyone or yourself. But, there are some many ways to promote any business that are given on the inside. I had someone in my downline who reads the newspapers daily....she about the only person I know that actually still has a subscription to her city's newspaper....well guess what she did....she went with what she knew....she placed ads in the thrifty nickel and now is paying her mortgage with PLS! This is what people have to realize....it is not the system that is failing....it is us failing to use the system. It is in place.....use it to best of your knowledge
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  • Profile picture of the author emelef
    PLS is a marketing platform. You can be an affiliate if you want - it's got a cool commission structure... but the product itself is very good for a few reasons:

    1. It's fully integrated - capture pages, sales pages, list-building... requires no coding or paying for different systems and products. So overall it works out as a cheaper marketing solution.

    2. Everything is editable... so as you advance and want to add your own marketing flavour, you can. But if you're a newbie - it's literally point, click, select, go!

    3. The auto responder lands in people's inbox, open rates are brilliant and the adcopy makes an impact... I have people replying (in a good way) to my emails - which were created by the system!

    4. Newbies will love this - email follow up series are done-for-you!

    My personal opinion is that this system is very good, can be used for ANY business, is an all-in-one marketing solution... and for newbies it is the best tool on the market.

    Marketing PLS itself is a good option too... but this is not a get rich quick scheme. There is no get rich quick scheme. This is solid, REAL marketing... and still requires your input. So if you want to join - go with someone who will help guide you and show you HOW to market... PLS is the platform that hosts your complete sales funnel... but it does not Market itself.

    You need to find relevant traffic and drive it to your funnel.

    But I cannot recommend it highly enough!
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  • Profile picture of the author davidbatchelor
    As far is tools go, the PLS Funnel id a good option. As far as making money goes, Savings Highway is a lot easier as well as far more lucrative.
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