by An Al
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Can't believe no one has mention this high dollar launch. What are people's thoughts? For a little comic relief, check out this youtube video created by an affiliate that was on page one for "The Trinity Code". He really gets into it, lol.

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  • Profile picture of the author highrider21
    At $2,497 it's way to expensive for me. But I'd still be interested in reading some reviews of what other people think about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author An Al
      Originally Posted by highrider21 View Post

      At $2,497 it's way to expensive for me. But I'd still be interested in reading some reviews of what other people think about it.
      Yeah, it is expensive, which is unusual. Most launches seem to be going away from high prices like this recently. So far, I haven't seen anything in their offer that's worth $2,500-$3,000.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesbgr
    Are previous customers of their last expensive launch making anything? You would think they would use their testimonials but no. I would rather hear from them than an affiliate jv partner or someone who just bought the course.
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    • Profile picture of the author JerryGP
      I watched a live webinar on this other night. I was impressed with a simple site. It is repeated several times this weekend. The price is too much for me. I would like to find out the traffic generation.
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      • Profile picture of the author An Al
        Originally Posted by JerryGP View Post

        I watched a live webinar on this other night. I was impressed with a simple site. It is repeated several times this weekend. The price is too much for me. I would like to find out the traffic generation.
        The traffic generation is simple...supposedly. You just find places that are talking about your niche and make comments there, being sure to include your link. Good luck finding examples that are blatantly obvious like his train horn example though. There's a reason that the train example is the only one they revealed.

        Meanwhile, after doing a little more digging, seems the duo of Steve and Aidan haven't been completely honest about a few details. For one, Aidan has said in every webinar I've listened too that there would be a limited amount sold because they just didn't have the manpower to handle hundreds of people. Well, from their JV page:

        In fact, I'm very confident that we will be mailing out a number of $100,000 commission checks.
        The commission is $1,248. If you're mailing out a number of $100,00 commission checks, you're taking on hundreds of people referred by affiliates alone. That doesn't take into account how many Aidan and Steve refer.

        Also, seems they were lying about their one site earning $517,000. Also from their JV page:

        The training will teach people how to replicate a business model that we have used to make over $500,000 in net profit from a single *mini-network* of high converting promotional-based sites in the 'bad credit' niche.
        Still impressive, but why lie? And btw, I found that network of sites, and here's another little oopsie....they look nothing like the site example given during their webinars, and they have a LOT more than 2-3 pages of images. Most of the content is text....lot's and lot's of text. I guess that's why they kept this site( I mean sites) to themselves...because they look nothing like they say.

        Finally, why no examples of student success? Per the JV page, they had an internal launch in January of this year. That was 9 months ago, which is plenty of time to "drag" those folks into profitability, yet nothing. Not even a mention on the JV page about the success of students of the program.

        Eh, I'd save my $2,500-$3,000 if anyone is still on the fence. For that price, you can probably snag a site that's already making $500 a month.
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        • Profile picture of the author GreenHollows
          What sites are in their network? I'd like to have a look. I'm really disappointed if they are lying.
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          • Profile picture of the author An Al
            Originally Posted by GreenHollows View Post

            What sites are in their network? I'd like to have a look. I'm really disappointed if they are lying.
            I'm hesitant to reveal that. Let me think on it. As for whether or not they were lying, that horse has left the barn, lol. You can't tell your potential buyers that you aren't going to sell hundreds while knowing that you already have sold hundreds and not be lying. That should be obvious to everyone by now. The idea that they're going to put together a major launch for all the big hitters to promote just to limit sales to 100 or so is naive.

            Now to be fair, I have no doubt the method they're teaching can work. But it won't be as easy as they make it out to be, and I don't think anything they're releasing is worth $2,500-$3,000. And, well, I just don't like liars.
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            • Profile picture of the author AntonyB
              Originally Posted by An Al View Post

              I'm hesitant to reveal that. Let me think on it. .
              Why are you hesitant to reveal the network of sites that you found?
              Why don't you you just share what you have learned and let anyone interested in buying make a better informed decision.
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              • Profile picture of the author An Al
                Originally Posted by AntonyB View Post

                Why are you hesitant to reveal the network of sites that you found?
                Why don't you you just share what you have learned and let anyone interested in buying make a better informed decision.
                Nah, I think I'll keep that info to myself. I will say this though....they weren't lying when they said they hadn't touched them in 4-5 years, lol.

                As for informed decision, there is no reason to pay $2,500-$3,000 for their course. They basically revealed the entire strategy during their webinars. Build a 2 page site that's built to convert. Model it after the site that Aidan revealed during the webinars. Then drive traffic to it. It's not like they're going to reveal any new traffic strategies, so pick up a traffic product with good reviews for less than $100 to learn how to drive traffic if you don't know how. No, you won't be able to use their crowdsource software, but you can use Google Alerts instead, and that's free.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesbgr
    Did not get the chance to download the light version of their crowd force software but the way it is described, looks a lot like buzz bundle: ✔ Best Social Media Management Tool - BuzzBundle (non afflink). Another reason not to buy at that extravagant price as buzz bundle is around $100 one off cost.
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    • Profile picture of the author JerryGP
      Originally Posted by jamesbgr View Post

      Did not get the chance to download the light version of their crowd force software but the way it is described, looks a lot like buzz bundle: ✔ Best Social Media Management Tool - BuzzBundle (non afflink). Another reason not to buy at that extravagant price as buzz bundle is around $100 one off cost.
      Crowd Force is their sofware? Buzz Budle works the same?
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      • Profile picture of the author jamesbgr
        Originally Posted by JerryGP View Post

        Crowd Force is their sofware? Buzz Budle works the same?
        Different interface but pretty identical I would say.

        Crowd force video: The Trinity Code

        This is a good review by Matt Woodward of Buzzbundle: BuzzBundle Review - How I Drive Traffic To My Blog
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          • Profile picture of the author JerryGP
            Originally Posted by TakaInc View Post

            Thanks ... I was going to pull the trigger and buy the Trinity Code mostly for the CrowdForce software, but Buzzbundle seems pretty awesome. I also did a search on their affiliate page and it looks like they will have a lot of people joining based on their cash bonuses for the top selling affiliates, so it won't be as "personalized training" as I would like.

            I'm going to download the trial version of Buzzbundle right now
            Let me know how you like it. I'm thinking of doing the same.
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            • Profile picture of the author JB
              I have to say Trinity Code looks intriguing, if it wasn't for the ridiculously high ticket price I would probably check it out. However, I can't help but feel cynical about the money back guarantee and the earning claims. You get a 30 day money back guarantee, fine. But their loose guarantee of you making your first $1,000 is for 60 days after you implement the course. So the guarantee means nothing in terms of earnings.
              As for the scarcity issue and "only accepting limited numbers", that's a complete lie. I've already received 4 different invites over the past few days from marketers with gigantic lists who are pushing this very hard for the big commissions. The scarcity tactic may be accepted in IM circles but for me it's something that turns me off straight away.
              The other questions you have to ask yourself is this. If these guys are making millions with a closely guarded secret, why on earth would they share it with hundreds of other affiliates who will directly compete with them by flooding their niches with similar sites and strategies? Why not simply hire a bunch of Philipino VA's full time and have them churn out a fully researched and optimised site every day? Surely building long term sustainable passive income is preferable to blowing your secret method just to make a quick buck. I'm going to follow traditional thinking on this one, "if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is".
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              • Profile picture of the author An Al
                Originally Posted by JB View Post

                The other questions you have to ask yourself is this. If these guys are making millions with a closely guarded secret, why on earth would they share it with hundreds of other affiliates who will directly compete with them by flooding their niches with similar sites and strategies?
                For a few extra million dollars in just under a week perhaps? It's a bogus claim anyway. There are 7 billion people on the planet, and thousands of affiliate programs. The idea that there isn't room for everyone they take on to get 200 visitors a day to their sites without ruining it for everyone is silly. But it's a common theme theme around here and other places.

                Why not simply hire a bunch of Philipino VA's full time and have them churn out a fully researched and optimised site every day? Surely building long term sustainable passive income is preferable to blowing your secret method just to make a quick buck.
                1. How do you know they aren't doing that? There's no rule that prevents them from doing both.

                2. Why is long term better than a quick buck? If I have the choice of getting $517,000 today, or getting it over 6 years like the example they give, give it to me today please, lol.

                3. It's not a quick buck. It's more like around a million quick bucks...in less than a week. I'll take that over the slow buck every time. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush they say. Plus I don't know that I'll be around long term. No one is guaranteed to be here tomorrow.

                4. They haven't blown anything. It's a big world. Affiliate marketing isn't going to stop working because 500 people bought their course. There's plenty of room for a lot of people to make money online.

                5. I agree with you on the false scarcity though. It's dishonest, and frankly unnecessary. They would have sold just as many without it.
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        • Profile picture of the author celestmark
          Originally Posted by jamesbgr View Post

          This is a good review by Matt Woodward of Buzzbundle: BuzzBundle Review - How I Drive Traffic To My Blog
          Really appreciate the lead on Buzz Bundle...

          I actually messages one of TC founders via FB PM and asked if they would ever considered Crowd Force on a monthly and their sticking to their guns with "not in the future"!

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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneAbden
    I did download the fre version of crowed force the idea is to find the recent talk about "keyword" so you can drive traffic to your site ..there website is very tiny and you don't need software to create it if you know wordpress.. also is buzzbundle can help you do what crowed force does? not really same but at start I think buzzbundle is enough..by the way corwedforce will work great if you have bunch of people working for you to do all this finding and answering stuff
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    • Profile picture of the author amuro
      Greg Jacobs only promotes high end products ($997 and more).

      Maybe I am wrong in saying this.

      But that's the impression he gave me from his past and present bonuses giveaway to anyone who buys through his link.


      Including this Trinity Code.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtrees
    Pretty sure that was the sales video that started out in the yacht? That bullshit made my skin start crawling in like 5 seconds and I was out.
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    • Profile picture of the author JerryGP
      The webinar replay is on YouTube
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    • Profile picture of the author An Al
      Originally Posted by palmtrees View Post

      Pretty sure that was the sales video that started out in the yacht? That bullshit made my skin start crawling in like 5 seconds and I was out.
      I have no doubt Steve Clayton has made enough money to be able to buy a yacht. High dollar launches like this can be quite profitable, lol. They will clear somewhere in the ballpark of a million dollars when this launch is over. That will buy a lot of yacht fuel.

      BTW, supposedly the course was in danger of filling up over the weekend, yet I've already received a few emails to let me know about webinars taking place on Monday, lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author An Al
          Originally Posted by Ronnell View Post

          I've bought a lot of Steve's products over the years...The thing about Steve Clayton is that he always makes good courses...They go into step by step detail every time...Commission Blueprint was probably the best step by step PPC course ever.Their course Niche Blueprint Ecommerce was revolutionary

          Just like with any course It's up to you to do what they say though...If I had the money I would buy it but I dont have that much
          Why not? You've already bought Commission Blueprint and Niche Blueprint, so why aren't you earning money?
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            Excellent question An Al.
            So Ronnell, we are waiting...........
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  • Profile picture of the author An Al
    Just an update....multiple webinars are still taking place to sell this product despite allegedly not being able to handle hundreds of new members and that was in danger of filling up last Thursday, lol.
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      Originally Posted by An Al View Post

      Just an update....multiple webinars are still taking place to sell this product despite allegedly not being able to handle hundreds of new members and that was in danger of filling up last Thursday, lol.
      Which I guess you're implying means one of two things-

      Either 1) They are just shamelessly NOT abiding by their own self-described and self-imposed scarcity that was designed to guarantee one-on-one help from the creators or

      2) They just simply aren't flying off the shelves at the breakneck speed that was anticipated-

      I hope everything works out for everyone, this certainly reminds me of the old real estate seminars where people were banging the h&ll out of their credit cards (and newer IM seminars of course LOL)-
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      • Profile picture of the author An Al
        Originally Posted by docmatt View Post

        Which I guess you're implying means one of two things-

        Either 1) They are just shamelessly NOT abiding by their own self-described and self-imposed scarcity that was designed to guarantee one-on-one help from the creators or

        2) They just simply aren't flying off the shelves at the breakneck speed that was anticipated-

        I hope everything works out for everyone, this certainly reminds me of the old real estate seminars where people were banging the h&ll out of their credit cards (and newer IM seminars of course LOL)-
        The answer is most likely number one. As I posted earlier, per their JV page, the scarcity was fake. If they expected to pay several affiliates $100,000 in commissions, they were expecting to sell hundreds despite saying in pretty much every webinar that they couldn't take on hundreds.

        I hope it works out for their buyers too. And it probably will if they follow through and do what they're supposed to. I have no doubt the system can work, but it won't be as easy as they make it out to be. Buyers are likely in for a serious wake up call once they learn they can't make $1,000 a month pimping their sites for only an hour a day.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneAbden
    ok so the conclusion is if you know how to create a similar wordpres site to their image site showing in an example and buy buzzbundle then outsource some people to use the software to find questions and answer them then you don't have to buy trinity code ..

    thanks to buzzbundle I was almost to buy
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  • Profile picture of the author essmeier
    If these guys are making millions with a closely guarded secret, why on earth would they share it with hundreds of other affiliates who will directly compete with them by flooding their niches with similar sites and strategies?

    1. Perhaps the method used to work, and doesn't anymore. That's a common tactic; sell what worked last year. They're no longer doing whatever the system says to do; what they're doing instead is selling what worked last year.

    2. Lots of people just like buying MMO products, but not everyone implements everything they buy. A number of people are going to pay $3000 or whatever for this course and then do nothing with it. That's a quick $3000 in revenue while creating no competition.

    3. Perhaps the market is infinite in scope and there's room enough for everybody.

    I've seen a launch or two in my time, so I'd be inclined to put my money on #1 above.

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  • Profile picture of the author BrentDotCom
    Interesting thread...... Cries of scarcity are of course a part of many launches, but these guys took it to another level LOL.
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      Does anyone have an actual review, because we are filling up this thread with needless commentary. I mean, 30 comments and not one review? Come one guys...

      This is a review thread, so if anyone has purchased the product, please speak up. If not, then keep the personal opinions and character assessments to yourself. It doesn't belong here..
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          • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
            Originally Posted by jamesbgr View Post

            Different interface but pretty identical I would say.

            Crowd force video: The Trinity Code

            This is a good review by Matt Woodward of Buzzbundle: BuzzBundle Review - How I Drive Traffic To My Blog
            Thanks for the share

            Originally Posted by ZaneAbden View Post

            ok so the conclusion is if you know how to create a similar wordpres site to their image site showing in an example and buy buzzbundle then outsource some people to use the software to find questions and answer them then you don't have to buy trinity code ..

            thanks to buzzbundle I was almost to buy
            Yes you have hit the nail on the head.

            THe trinity stuff is just a high ticket over priced rip off. You can achieve the same with just BuzzBundle and a couple of my other tutorials which im not allowed to link.

            Basically, setup wordpress, find out what people want, give it to them, promote with buzzbundle.

            Thats just saved you thousands of dollars ^^
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            • Profile picture of the author An Al
              Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

              Thanks for the share



              Yes you have hit the nail on the head.

              THe trinity stuff is just a high ticket over priced rip off. You can achieve the same with just BuzzBundle and a couple of my other tutorials which im not allowed to link.

              Basically, setup wordpress, find out what people want, give it to them, promote with buzzbundle.

              Thats just saved you thousands of dollars ^^
              I'm guessing you were brought here by Buzzbundle, lol.
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              Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

              Thanks for the share



              Yes you have hit the nail on the head.

              THe trinity stuff is just a high ticket over priced rip off. You can achieve the same with just BuzzBundle and a couple of my other tutorials which im not allowed to link.

              Basically, setup wordpress, find out what people want, give it to them, promote with buzzbundle.

              Thats just saved you thousands of dollars ^^

              Went to your site and watched your buzz bundle tutorial. Which other tutorials on your site do you recommend?
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            • Profile picture of the author JerryGP
              Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

              Thanks for the share



              Yes you have hit the nail on the head.

              THe trinity stuff is just a high ticket over priced rip off. You can achieve the same with just BuzzBundle and a couple of my other tutorials which im not allowed to link.

              Basically, setup wordpress, find out what people want, give it to them, promote with buzzbundle.

              Thats just saved you thousands of dollars ^^
              No more link building?
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    • Profile picture of the author celestmark
      I second the motion on Crowd Force... Why didn't it just go monthly to access it?

      I believe you've made solid points and actually glad I didn't find the cash in time to throw at this "glory hole". I've been burned on too many $1K+ launches to know better...

      Still, the concept is not new and believe that a custom bot type product or combination of social monitoring tools can produce the same.

      The real news here is that Google has stopped GAlerts from doing what it did and products that offer similar functionality will do very well, especially a product that continually scours the web searching sensitive money keywords that have high social trends!

      Originally Posted by ErrolN View Post

      ... I almost bought it just to take a look so I could give an honest review and not be a nay sayer... damit I hate nay sayers...
      ANY who's ... If any one has some luck with it... please post here... and disregard any and all bad bull I just said... I'm just a regular guy just like any one putting in my two cents...
      I hope you guys do the same... thats what makes a good community. If I'm proven wrong I will immediately remove this review... just because I'm cool like that.

      Cheers Guys... may you stay focused and find powerful success.

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      • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
        I watched all their pre-sale videos and to be fair Steve has been singing the "stop trying to game the SERPS and drive traffic to your site in other ways" line for awhile now - seems like the crowd force software is his solution and a smart one at that.

        Like someone mentioned above they were tempted to buy the course just to get the software - that was me as well.

        I think this weekend I will download to Buzzbundle software and try that out.

        That said Steve's products are always top notch and I am sure that anyone who pays the $2400 asking price and follows it to a tee will make money.
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        • Profile picture of the author JerryGP
          Originally Posted by Aussie_Al View Post

          I think this weekend I will download to Buzzbundle software and try that out.
          Let us know how it is
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          • Profile picture of the author An Al
            Originally Posted by JerryGP View Post

            Let us know how it is
            They have a free demo version that you can download and try for yourself. I downloaded and installed it last night, but I haven't set it up yet.
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            • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
              I have only bought one expensive ($200 or so) course on IM and I realized it was a big scam (i.e. constantly pushing you to buy more and more stuff in order to REALLY make money! lol) and got my $ back - with some difficulty - before the end of the 60 day guarantee.

              As a result of that and watching other similar "BIG LAUNCHES" I am immediately turned off when I see a guy in an expensive car or on the beach or in a yacht telling me how if I just turn over hundreds or thousands of dollars to him, making money in IM will be quick and easy.

              The video for Trinity turned me off as much as the price did.

              Does it work? My guess is that it will work for some but no one is going to get rich following this program which is probably - as someone mentioned above - LAST YEAR's method that is starting to work less and less now.

              Whatever, no way would I pay that much money for an IM "get rich" method. Ever.

              Thanks to all for the BuzzBundle recommendation. It does look cool, but one thing you should know - you have to pay like $6/month to keep it working. All of PowerSuite's products require a monthly payment to keep them working, and if you have the whole Suite it can run you $20-30/month to keep it working (I forget the exact amount).

              p.s. WHY did these guys decide to release a big expensive course like this instead of selling the software on a monthly plan etc.?
              The answer is easy:
              To make a WHOLE BOATLOAD OF MONEY REALLY FAST.
              Period.
              I don't care how many IMers claim they want to help you make money, and no doubt a few - very few - actually do want to help you - the bottom line is they are looking for suckers - um, no, I mean "clients" - to sell stuff to, to buy and fuel their yachts/sports cars etc.

              Bottom line: IF it sounds "too good to be true", it is.
              Oh, and as someone else said: WHERE ARE ALL THE REVIEWS from people who have used this system and made a fortune (or even a good monthly income)???
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            • Profile picture of the author JerryGP
              Originally Posted by An Al View Post

              They have a free demo version that you can download and try for yourself. I downloaded and installed it last night, but I haven't set it up yet.
              How does it look?
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              • Profile picture of the author An Al
                Originally Posted by JerryGP View Post

                Who does it look?
                Still haven't set it up, but what I've seen so far looks fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtrees
    Here is a webinar Gauher Chaudhry did with one of the guys from Trinity:

    Trinity Code Webinar Replay And Bonus

    (not an affiliate link or anything, I'm certainly not advising anyone to purchase this)

    He seems to pretty much lay the entire strategy out and it's nothing revolutionary or new at all. Make a simple site promoting something and do social media/posting stuff about it in relevant places.
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  • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
    p.s. David Henry has a software that looks for forum posts and blogs to post in, what the PR is (you can search based on PR, edu, gov, etc.) and it's very helpful. Seems to me like this plus BuzzBundle for social signals would be a better - and much cheaper - way to go than Trinity.
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    • Profile picture of the author An Al
      Originally Posted by yep2 View Post

      5. The key strategy is to find relevant forums, blogs, and other "pockets of traffic" talking about your niche, make comments that aren't too spammy, and hope that you don't get banned. Problem is, I get banned or my comments get deleted most of the time, so it feels like I'm just constantly starting from scratch.
      Stevie Wonder saw that coming, lol. The idea that you can just sign up to a forum and drop a link to your site in your first post like they claimed during the launch was nonsense 3 years ago. It's even more nonsense now. Forums these days don't even like people posting links in their sig.

      As for getting a refund, why wouldn't you? They've taught you a bogus method. Is that what you paid for?

      BTW, did they ever share their bad credit checking site that was supposedly making so much money?
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