Is Rapid Action Profit still the best?

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Is Rapid Action Profits still the best program for ebook producers/marketers, or is there something better now? Only affordable options please!
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    Hi,

    It is to me. I see more and more people jumping on board everyday. Some of the names would surprise you.

    Thanks,

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Anomaly1974
    Now that you bring it up

    From what I have heard I think RAP is probably the best I have seen for viral materials and for instant payment options but how does it work for more involved sales?

    If you have regular products that you sell only occasionally ... but thousands of them ... would it actually work? And how about download protection?

    I ask because I am interested in it for the price but still not sure if it will take care of everything I am looking for.

    Not trying to hijack your thread, just curious.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Originally Posted by Anomaly1974 View Post

      If you have regular products that you sell only occasionally ... but thousands of them ... would it actually work? And how about download protection?
      Why not? Each sale in a unique transaction - whether you're selling 10 or 1000 in a month.

      As for download protection, it's built in - and the links expire so even the purchaser must download within a time-frame you specify (or request that their link be re-validated).
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      • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
        This works with Clickbank?

        I'm currently putting the finsihing touches to all my download pages etc, so this sounds like a good script to keep my product from being stolen and for organisation.

        Cheers.
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        • Profile picture of the author VaultBoss
          Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

          This works with Clickbank?
          [...]
          Cheers.
          You won't even think twice about ClickBank, after using RAP, believe me.

          There are a bunch of scripts around the Internet taking care of download protection, but that's besides the point, because, even if RAP has that as a built-in option, it is not the main reason why many marketers favour it vs. the rest.

          The main reason is that it offers the instant commissions payment for affiliates.

          That means
          • first that you will get a horde of happy affiliates to promote your products, time and time again
            (what incentive could work better than instant reward for their promotional efforts?)
          • second that you will never have to worry about IRS, forms to be submitted, etc... because, in fact, your affiliates will simply get paid directly -- so a lot less hassle to your business
          There are also far less refund requests amongst RAP users, to the best of my knowledge (and I happen to know a handful of the most prominent ones), as opposed to the well known problem marketers have with ClickBank's policies regarding refunds -- that makes the whole process so easy and w/o any downsides for the buyer that it became a real problem with them.
          I think I remember even reading abt. this on ClickBank's blog but I'm not 100% sure (might have been other related blog).
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    Hi,

    No, it only works with PayPal, but is how you can control your commission scheme and get the 'instant' payout for resellers. Actually a better way to go and resellers love it.

    As to the OP question about number of products. I have one client who has over 2000 products without issue.

    Hope that helps.

    Thanks,

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author melanied
      I love promoting instant paypal commission products!
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Fulfer
    I've been using RAP for several months now and have it up on about 20+ sites at the moment.
    Its really made a big difference in our niche marketing and has solved a lot of issues we had with going through other affiliate sites like clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author ECS Dave
    Rapid Action Profits (link is to my blog posts about RAP)
    does an awesome job, doing what it does:
    Displays the product(s) you have for sale...
    Facilitates the sale(s) of that product
    Delivers that product to your customer
    Has subscription capabilities (via a certified add-on)
    Has membership site capabilities (via a certified add-on)
    And much, much more...
    The "best" is relative to what you desire, and to what you hope to accomplish.
    I'm accomplishing many of my desires through the use of the Rapid Action Profits script...

    Be Well!
    ECS Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
    Depends what you want to do... and how you want to get paid.

    Pros and cons of RAP (from a user):

    Pros:
    LOVE LOVE LOVE most of it. Sid is fantastic for providing updates and bug fixes and I think that is critically important. (Especially when, if you're like me, you've spent literally thousands on other software programs, who eventually never update any of their software, or suddenly decide to charge you 2-3 times the original cost to get the "newest" version. (Yeah, one company has been trying that with me - I refuse to update it because of it).

    Quite easy to get up and running, most people could have this up and running AND live in under a day (including writing a sales letter... unless you're like me who sometimes takes too many hours doing so .

    Whenever I want to add a new product, sales letter, downloads, etc., (excluding the time it takes to write the sales letter) - uploading and turning it all on can generally be done in under 30 min. (It's actually faster, but I am adding time in case you want to customize wording anywhere).

    CONS:

    - *only* accepts paypal (I like the options of Alertpay and/or 2checkout as an alternate - you limit sales by only having one processor)
    - I wish there was an ability to run it like a "traditional" affiliate program too - i.e., if you choose to pay your affiliates directly rather than the script paying affiliates directly. This would allow for at the very least, the ability to accept 2checkout or alertpay... i.e., if a person DIDN'T pay by paypal, that then the commission is held/tracked as if a standard program since most dont' have a 2co account.

    Rap over cb or anything like it? Total no brainer. Rap beats out most except those two things above I've got it running on several sites (without the membership script though as it came out after I needed that and used alternate solutions).

    Amber
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    • Profile picture of the author netkickstart
      Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

      CONS:

      - I wish there was an ability to run it like a "traditional" affiliate program too - i.e., if you choose to pay your affiliates directly rather than the script paying affiliates directly. This would allow for at the very least, the ability to accept 2checkout or alertpay... i.e., if a person DIDN'T pay by paypal, that then the commission is held/tracked as if a standard program since most dont' have a 2co account.

      Amber
      Half of this con anyway is addressed by my MassPay addon (netkickstart.com/masspay/). As the name implies it enables you to pay out monthly using PayPal's Mass Payment files instead of instantly. Perfect for high-ticket products and/or low-volume sales.

      Just like Wordpress with its plugins, Sid really got it right with the whole addon infrastructure!
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  • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
    Is it comparable to DLG?
    and does it have a cart function, along with membership?

    Thanks for the input...
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    • Profile picture of the author VaultBoss
      Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

      Is it comparable to DLG?
      and does it have a cart function, along with membership?

      Thanks for the input...
      If by DLG you mean DownLoadGuard... probably the answer is "Yes, somehow..."

      All download links from RAP are theft protected and have a lifespan that you can setup inside the script's dashboard interface.
      Your digital products are safe; no one can send the link around by email or other means and expect it to work...

      I am not sure what exactly did you want to find out regarding the shopping cart.
      However, all I can tell you is the fact that normally, for each product you are selling from one domain (RAP may be installed on multiple domains, having no licensing limitations on this respect) you will have one set of PHP files as the core of the script that is common, and very few files specific to each product.
      These products will be sold through PayPal as a payment processor (you don't even have to take your button from PayPal for that, being included in your templates).

      If you intend to sell multiple products on a single page and let the visitor choose only a few of them, calculate the total amount and pay accordingly to PayPal while sending different download links afterwards, depending on the specific purchases, then the answer is NO, RAP doesn't do that for you; up to the best of my knowledge...

      Hope it helped you to understand.
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      • Profile picture of the author VaultBoss
        Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

        Is it comparable to DLG?
        and does it have a cart function, along with membership?

        Thanks for the input...
        One more thing, as I forgot previously...

        RAP doesn't come natively with the membership option.

        That is an addon.
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        • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
          That's all I needed to know...

          Thanks for the info.
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          • Profile picture of the author VaultBoss
            Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

            That's all I needed to know...

            Thanks for the info.
            YW!
            I was trying to help, I'm glad I did...

            I would certainly appreciate the Forum thanks if you feel like it... LOL
            Not sure if it matters, but I 'envy' fellow warriors with many 'thanks' on their profiles. Maybe I'm nuts?...
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            • Profile picture of the author jwyrick
              Originally Posted by VaultBoss View Post

              YW!
              I was trying to help, I'm glad I did...

              I would certainly appreciate the Forum thanks if you feel like it... LOL
              Not sure if it matters, but I 'envy' fellow warriors with many 'thanks' on their profiles. Maybe I'm nuts?...
              Hi Steve,

              I would be more than happy to say THANK YOU from all of us RAPpers who see you making such a strong effort to tell people about the wonderful software that we use. I'm not sure if that helps your rankings, but I'm happy to at least try. :p

              Jeffrey S. Wyrick
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              • Profile picture of the author KatheLucas
                Ditto from the gals

                Oh, and did anyone mention Sid is running a three payment special right now? somebody give them the link!

                ...oh, you did.

                And a hearty THANKS to you Steve. You're always appreciated wherever you go

                Kathe
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      • Profile picture of the author dschoen
        Originally Posted by VaultBoss View Post

        If by DLG you mean DownLoadGuard... probably the answer is "Yes, somehow..."

        All download links from RAP are theft protected and have a lifespan that you can setup inside the script's dashboard interface.
        Your digital products are safe; no one can send the link around by email or other means and expect it to work...

        I am not sure what exactly did you want to find out regarding the shopping cart.
        However, all I can tell you is the fact that normally, for each product you are selling from one domain (RAP may be installed on multiple domains, having no licensing limitations on this respect) you will have one set of PHP files as the core of the script that is common, and very few files specific to each product.
        These products will be sold through PayPal as a payment processor (you don't even have to take your button from PayPal for that, being included in your templates).

        If you intend to sell multiple products on a single page and let the visitor choose only a few of them, calculate the total amount and pay accordingly to PayPal while sending different download links afterwards, depending on the specific purchases, then the answer is NO, RAP doesn't do that for you; up to the best of my knowledge...

        Hope it helped you to understand.
        Steve,

        I was wondering the same thing so I gave you a quick TY love pat. You have taught me much in this forum, great one. Thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author Paulo
    Where can I find info about its add-on?

    Thanks.

    Paulo
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  • Profile picture of the author netkickstart
    Wow, they need to seriously redo their research! Off the top of my head, I see many No's that should be Yes's. Running down the list quickly: Giveaways, separate autoresponders per product, disabling JV signup, download dir above root, subscriptions/recurring billing (via addon), bonus manager (via addon), membership site (via addon), refunds, MassPay (via addon), TOS (free addon), time based content management (if I understand their terminology)... All should be Yes's.
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    • Profile picture of the author VaultBoss
      Erin,

      Did you answer at Razer Rage's post?
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  • Profile picture of the author netkickstart
    Yes, Steve, I was referring to the comparison chart to which Razer Rage linked.
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    • Profile picture of the author KatheLucas
      As a "power user" we run both of our active sites on RAP and would do it no other way.

      Is there room for other processors and scripts? Sure, but it all depends on what you're looking for.

      RAP support, the add-ons and the infrastructure that allows the expansion of add-ons is awesome - but I guess some of us forget that not everybody knows that already.

      Designed to REPLACE the downfalls of the old $7 script (I hope I said that right, Sid) as many already know, it was a very popular script for those "$7 products" so naturally, it works best for that type product(s) and whether you have it on many sites or consolidate your sales much like we 'Wacky Gals' do, whatever you may have disliked about the $7 script (which I STILL see lots of folks using, btw), has been corrected and refined in RAP...and then some!

      Some higher priced products COULD present problems regarding refunds and etc. since affiliates are paid almost immediately. As the marketer, it would be up to you to make the terms and conditions of each sale specific enough to cover everything up front.

      We do a lot of affiliate work as well ...and I would rather sell and get my commissions immediately whenever possible, as we have been burned by quite a few marketers that either can't keep the script up, claim to be hacked, or have some other issue where our commissions were "lost in transit".

      I don't know about you guys, but ready access to funds has it's benefits these days.

      Oh, and we haven't even gotten to the membership and add-on bennies yet. If you can place a token, you can handle this script and the add-ons are almost "plug and play" easy - even for a novice. (It's that "operator error" stuff that gets you in trouble, so reading the instructions and following directions is a key component, ah...to ANY script install and use...hehe)

      Need more?

      (ok, I admit, I was already 'sold" when I got here...hehe).

      Feel free to PM if you have any questions, we RAPpers are always glad to help when we can.

      I think it's a cult.

      All My Best,

      Kathe and The Wacky Wednesday & Weekend Sale Gals
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  • Profile picture of the author jwyrick
    Originally Posted by Razer Rage View Post

    Now that we're on this subject, I've always wondered about simple member pro. It compares itself with programs like RAP, check it out: Membership Script - Simple Member Pro PHP Membership Script

    What do you guys think?
    This script is very dynamic and has the BEST support team I've ever seen for any digital product hands down! Nowhere else have I ever been working on a promotion late night and been stuck to the point where I couldn't sleep....then went to a designated SKYPE chat room and gotten support at 3:00 am. Well, nowhere other than the RAP group.

    As for the product you're asking about, several of the resorts about both the RAP and the BFM are a tad jaded. I talk to Sid Hale and Mike Filsaime on occasion about these scripts, as our team has been installing them both for quite some time. Taking that in to account I can tell you that whoever designed the sales page for SMP has most likely NEVER used either the RAP or the BFM and has little to no knowledge about their competitors.

    I'm sure that both the RAP guys and the BFM guys would agree with me about this.

    Jeffrey Wyrick
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  • Profile picture of the author ECS Dave
    I am SERIOUSLY going to have to talk to my GoogleAlerts contacts...

    All these replies, and not one peep from them... GRRR!!!

    However, it looks like all the questions and concerns were deftly handled by
    my co-members in the RAPCult, LOL

    Any further questions, concerns can probably be answered at any number
    of posts I have made on my blog - Rapid Action Profits - Can anyone say
    "anchor text"? LOL

    If the answer isn't there, post a comment and it will be shortly!

    Be Well!
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    • Profile picture of the author eikliw
      Im really interested in getting RAP, seems like a no brainer.

      One question for all you current users;

      What is the sales process like for the OTO feature?

      At what point, and how are the customers offered the OTO?

      Before initial payment, or after successful purchase, then before the download page? and if so, do they have to enter their payment info again for the OTO?

      thanks in advance
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      • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
        Hi,

        Originally Posted by eikliw View Post

        Im really interested in getting RAP, seems like a no brainer.

        One question for all you current users;

        What is the sales process like for the OTO feature?

        At what point, and how are the customers offered the OTO?

        Before initial payment, or after successful purchase, then before the download page? and if so, do they have to enter their payment info again for the OTO?
        After the payment for the front-end (assuming the front-end isn't a giveaway). And Yes - their purchase details must be re-entered for the back-end offer.

        You owe the customer expedient delivery of their initial purchase. As only, say 20%, will even take you up on your OTO... why build the sales process that is totally focused on that? It's much more important to establish a good experience for the front-end purchaser. After all, since they will now be on your list, you will get many chances to sell them again on the back-end. Don't ruin the purchase experience for the other 80%.
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      • Profile picture of the author Josh Fulfer
        Originally Posted by eikliw View Post

        Im really interested in getting RAP, seems like a no brainer.

        One question for all you current users;

        What is the sales process like for the OTO feature?

        At what point, and how are the customers offered the OTO?

        Before initial payment, or after successful purchase, then before the download page? and if so, do they have to enter their payment info again for the OTO?

        thanks in advance

        OTO Process:
        Front sales page > Paypal > OTO > Paypal > Thank you Page

        Non-OTO Process:
        Front End Sale > Paypal > OTO (no thanks) > Thank you Page

        Also you can mix and match with using a giveaway or the squeeze page after they get back from paypal. Or one of my favorites, you can import their info into aweber from the paypal IPN and have them automatically sent a confirmation email to your list.
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