Ivan Ong Cpa coaching

Here's just something to think about.

While I don't personally know Ivan and haven't been through his training, I believe he is onto something and I'll tell you why:

1. His students I think are kicking the tail end of other coaches in the biz. He has an ADVANTAGE which is teaching his students how to run certain types of campaigns that give Asians an ADVANTAGE. This is what I see from a distance.

He has found an advantage and is kicking some real tail with it. Now, I'm not sure he discloses these advantages right off the bat to all students or if he only explains them after students have proven they can attain a modicum of success with the basics. I believe his campaigns or on Asian cpa sites and some are in foreign languages...that gives him a big advantage vs. non-Asian cpa marketers who can't compete with his knowledge of the Asian cpa market and terms. Or that's what I think.

He and his students combined are doing 1 million a month, or that is what he says and I think provides some evidence of. There HAS to be a competitive ADVANTAGE to do those numbers. In other words, they are beating the heck out of some other players on the cpa game board. And you can BET those other players are pretty pissed about it.

2. Remember that when someone is criticized, there is often a vested interest at steak. I don't personally know Mr. Ngo at all. I know he's respected. I'm sure he ALSO has friends who are in the coaching business. Is that a fair assumption? You wonder if this is an objective criticism or not.

3. I think Ivan's success ratio is very good. Ivan NEVER said it was easy. He openly discloses how many hours you need to work to be successful which is a lot. He tells about the back problems he had from spending so many hours at the computer. Fact is, MOST students don't follow instructions and quit too easily.

4. There is a learning curve to anything. Ivan is very transparent about this in my opinion. He pretty much goes overboard to explain his method takes a lot of long hours in the beginning and won't make much money for 3-6 months. And you will lose in the first few months. From what i read on his blog, it takes a LOT more than 50 campaigns to have success. This is a COMPETITION. You are COMPETING against other very sharp, talented people.

5. I don't know the inside of Ivan's training. From what I've seen he has an office with staff of 12 or so to help students. And they take phone calls. It would seem to me he is adequately staffed to give support. From what read they offer phone support and NOT just fb group support. I could be wrong but I believe that is clearly stated and shown in his office pictures and explanation of staff. Normally, people don't have an office with SUPPORT STAFF if they don't want to support people.

SUMMARY:

1. I *believe* Ivan has found a competitive advantage or a way to run campaigns that gives people in Asian an advantage.

I don't think there is ANY way his students can

2. This is going to GREATLY piss off people in other countries who have problems competing against his students.

3. Keep in mind that people who criticize SOMETIMES have a vested interest in doing so, although not always. You have to decide for yourself if the person is boosting their own students and coaching program or that of their friend or friends.

4. Since I don't personally know Ivan, don't know his coaching contents, etc, what I'm saying is only based on what I've seen and read on his site.

5. I don't know C. Ngo and haven't read his comments on Ivan. It's up to the buyer to decide the validity of his comments.

In short, I *think* Ivan has found a competitive advantage in how his students run campaigns. And that is why they are beating other people in the Game. If you plan on buying the coaching, you should ask Ivan about this.

I also wonder if he reveals this to ALL students or only those who prove themselves willing to work hard and follow his instructions.

6. Ivan makes it clear he worked an awful lot of 12 hour days and has back problems. People getting into thinking 50 campaigns is enough and a month or two of effort will cut it really do NOT understand it's about COMPETITION and beating out other players in the cpa Game. That isn't something you simply, easily or casually do. You work your tail end off. But the rewards are there for the people who can find an advantage in the Game.

7. No matter who you buy from, do your due diligence and buyer beware. That goes without saying.

Marlon Sanders

PS: I just read the Charles Ngo piece and he alleges that screen caps from Ivan's students are fake. Well, in his YOUTUBE account, MULTIPLE students DO show the actual video inside their accounts. I think proves at least THOSE students are real. Others give pretty detailed audio interviews. That's way more than just a screen cap in terms of evidence. Also, the students POST their EARNINGS or losses monthly in the FB group.