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11 years ago

The guys at Link Emperor gave me a refund of $1200 for the last month but still didn't respond to my request for more of a refund due to me spending over $10K and getting both sites banned from Google search. I'm still waiting for another response.

Even when I told the staff at Link Emperor about the "unnatural links building" email from Google they told me not to worry about it that Google hardly ever moves on these messages. Two weeks later my sites are offline and I'm left trying to figure our how to get 30,000 back links removed myself and out of $10K!!

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Patbinc

11 years ago

Wow, that really sucks, that's a lot of lost business right there if that software did what you say it did. The bad thing is it took so long for the negative effects to be realized, you would have saved a ton of money if Google had done their thing earlier.

I personally think it would be better to go for direct traffic if you have that kind of budget, instead of using these softwares. As a matter of fact, I think you would be back on Google listings sooner if you get enough direct traffic (of course after removing all the backlinks), something like 100K visitors per month will get you back up and running. Google is getting better at unlisting sites for all kinds of reasons that I think the only way to survive is 100% legit.

Good luck with the guys at Link Emperor though I suspect they will waste more of your time.

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chemo38

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Patbinc

Wow, that really sucks, that's a lot of lost business right there if that software did what you say it did. The bad thing is it took so long for the negative effects to be realized, you would have saved a ton of money if Google had done their thing earlier.

I personally think it would be better to go for direct traffic if you have that kind of budget, instead of using these softwares. As a matter of fact, I think you would be back on Google listings sooner if you get enough direct traffic (of course after removing all the backlinks), something like 100K visitors per month will get you back up and running. Google is getting better at unlisting sites for all kinds of reasons that I think the only way to survive is 100% legit.

Good luck with the guys at Link Emperor though I suspect they will waste more of your time.

Pat's correct. Google is getting way too smart when it comes to backlinks. This is an example of the value of direct trafficking.

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Steve25 11 years ago

Interesting that you say it is due to Link Emperor. To be fair to both sides it would be interesting to know the following:

1 - You were spending $1300 per month. How many sites was this split between?
2 - How many pages for each site did you promote (10, 20, 30 etc).
3 - For each page how many keywords?
4 - Did you use the buffer tier and if so approx. what percentage?

I'd also be interested in the guys at Link Emperor giving their opinion.

As a current user of LE this would be of great interest to me.
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stevelarkincvg

11 years ago

Yah thanks for the comments, Link Emperor told me they would refund us one month only and that's it. Their program uses tons of sites that don't even relate to your product and Google picks up on it fast. Legit is the only way to go now, I'm finding that using Facebook advertisements tends to pick up way more business for us and it's legit. Once I get the sites back on Google we plan to stay 100% legit and stay away from these crafty programs that get you rankings and then get you banned.

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tyang

11 years ago

j/w was link emperor responsible for ranking your site in the first place?

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cbpayne

11 years ago

So you do exactly what Google say don't do and got caught doing it ... go figure you now whinge about it!

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seoextremewithsophie

11 years ago

Tried LinkEmperor and was not happy.... they went crazy debitting my Paypal and had to waste my time asking for a refund on all the debits they made... plus the links were horrendous!

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by stevelarkincvg

My Link Emperor Review
So I was looking for some good SEO tools to build links and I found Link Emperor. I looked over all the reviews and thought how awesome this would be ... won't help in the long run!

Hi Steve and everyone,

I would like to let you know from our perspective how this actually worked out.

In all actualities this customer followed very little if any of our instructions, or SEO best practices for that matter. Our system works great for 99.5% of our customers, the other bit just don't make the changes needed, that we help with.

Link Emperor is a very powerful tool that can work very well, however we also allow you to control almost any and all settings, which does leave room for doing the wrong thing.

The main 2 causes of loss in rankings in this case was way too much repetitiveness in keywords and major changes in link velocity. Two things that most people know can kill any sites SEO campaign.

I know when offering my support and detailed help that I made it very clear that you needed to add more keyword variation. I said this at least 5 or more times and even gave examples of how to do so a few times. However, this was never done.

I believe in one of the last few emails you even said, our site doesn't get much of anything but from keywords containing "xyz" phrase, so you have hundreds of keywords setup with only "xyz" phrase in it.

You also deleted, rebuilt and paused your campaigns interrupting the link velocity.

In fact, after auditing your campaign, letting you know everything you need to do to it, you deleted it and replaced it with a much worse setup overall.

It was actually very frustrating as I was doing everything I could to help you.

I also spent many hours doing a full on-site audit and letting you know what on-site factors were affecting your sites rankings. If you have that still, I would recommend making those changes.

I am sorry that your site was removed however, I feel this is hardly due to Link Emperor when the problem was an inability to follow simple advice, step-by-step instructions and examples. I am truly disappointed that it came down to this.

We do review everyone's account when everyone first starts and offer all the help we can with anything you need as you go. We do everything short of forcing you to do something to ensure that your site gets great results and I can happily say that the large majority of our customers get great results.

Originally Posted by seoextremewithsophie

Tried LinkEmperor and was not happy.... they went crazy debitting my Paypal and had to waste my time asking for a refund on all the debits they made... plus the links were horrendous!

I do apologize for that, we did have a billing issue and I'm sorry that you were affected. We did make sure to refund everyone every cent in a very timely manner and make sure everyone was taken care of.

We have also since improved our billing processes and have many more safe guards to ensure there will be no more billing issues in the future.

I hope this sheds some more light on all of this here. Link Emperor is a great tool backed and ran by honest people.

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Steve25 11 years ago

Hi Karson,

Thanks for replying to this thread. I think it is important that both sides have their say.

If the op was spending $1300 per month I would be interested in how many keywords this was spread across.

As I said we use LE but we spend about $500 a month and have this spread between 468 pages with a total of 1416 keyphrases (I think about 10 phrases are used on multiple pages).

I'm very happy with the system and we are seeing some strong movement in a highly competitive industry.

The one thing I would say is that it takes more work than simply setting and forgetting. We don't let the system decide the priority as we want to actively target phrases with zero search volume since from our ppc we know that these do actually get some traffic. We've also not linked our google analytics to the system as I'm not happy with that (rightly or wrongly).

I am still interested to know what the op's spread was over number of targets and number of keyphrases, but I expect we will never know this.

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stevelarkincvg

11 years ago

I'll just reply in BOLD in the quote for an easier read.

Originally Posted by GangsterProfit

Hi Steve and everyone,

I would like to let you know from our perspective how this actually worked out.

In all actualities this customer followed very little if any of our instructions, or SEO best practices for that matter. Our system works great for 99.5% of our customers, the other bit just don't make the changes needed, that we help with.

I looked back and I think we exchanged 140+ emails over the entire period with you guys. I (as well as my team) did follow the instructions you guys gave us. You said "Add more than 5 keywords" and we did, you told us to adjust our settings and we did, everything you told us to do we did.

Link Emperor is a very powerful tool that can work very well, however we also allow you to control almost any and all settings, which does leave room for doing the wrong thing.

That may be your programs problem then, for example, now that the site is off Google (well not off but past page 10) we have to use AdWords. A guy we had help us on Adwords (a rep) actually took about 2 hours and setup our entire campaign for us and did everything. When we needed changes he fixed it and I was only spending $200 a month on the campaign, not the $1000+ a month I spent with you guys. So maybe you guys should actually go into the campaigns and help clients after asking their permission.

The main 2 causes of loss in rankings in this case was way too much repetitiveness in keywords and major changes in link velocity. Two things that most people know can kill any sites SEO campaign.

I know when offering my support and detailed help that I made it very clear that you needed to add more keyword variation. I said this at least 5 or more times and even gave examples of how to do so a few times. However, this was never done.

Sure it was done, I went out and looked up long tail keywords and changed things around like you asked. Maybe you should have gone into one of my campaigns, made changes to it and said "this is exactly how you need to do everything"

I believe in one of the last few emails you even said, our site doesn't get much of anything but from keywords containing "xyz" phrase, so you have hundreds of keywords setup with only "xyz" phrase in it.

You also deleted, rebuilt and paused your campaigns interrupting the link velocity.

That was in the last week before I quit using your services due to the huge amount of frustration my family had from losing so much monthly income for using your link building services. In fact, if you really thought our campaign was so bad maybe you should have shut it down for us and told us you won't allow us to use it anymore because you knew it would get our site removed.... oh yah I forgot we were paying you $1000+ a month.

In fact, after auditing your campaign, letting you know everything you need to do to it, you deleted it and replaced it with a much worse setup overall.

It was actually very frustrating as I was doing everything I could to help you.

I also spent many hours doing a full on-site audit and letting you know what on-site factors were affecting your sites rankings. If you have that still, I would recommend making those changes.

I am sorry that your site was removed however, I feel this is hardly due to Link Emperor when the problem was an inability to follow simple advice, step-by-step instructions and examples. I am truly disappointed that it came down to this.

We do review everyone's account when everyone first starts and offer all the help we can with anything you need as you go. We do everything short of forcing you to do something to ensure that your site gets great results and I can happily say that the large majority of our customers get great results.

Again, I do think it's the service, quality of links and program your offering that will end up getting plenty of sites banned. Let's just give it a few months with all the new Google changes and see how many other websites post here about getting banned from your service. Then we can come back and place blame somewhere else.

In my opinion at this point with all the major changes Google is making everyone is better off building a strong campaign the right way, trying to cheat the system using Link Emperor will get your site removed from Google in the end.

PS: If you feel that bad for us you could always send back some of that $12,000+

Also looking back (while I'm going over these links to get disavowed from Google) don't you think Google will pick up on your programs back links setup? I mean look at this, why in the world would your program spam links back to us so much using the same sites?? We had 1131 links back to our main site from tv-panorama, 600+ links back to us on every other links you guys had setup via your vendors. I think Google is smart enough to know that's spam (no matter what my keywords were).

tv-panorama.com 1,131
yznu.cn 642
hartvilleoh.us 545
watpayanrangsi.com 498
meuheroi.com.br 483

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11 years ago

Hey- I'm one of the company owners.

Let's be frank.

Link Emperor is a tool for buying automated bulk link building.

This isn't "white-hat" SEO. Maybe you call it grey hat, maybe you call it black hat, but either way, it is what it is.

What it isn't.... is a black box. Rather, Link Emperor is one of the most transparent and open SEO link building packages out there.

Every single day, we post the *exact* reports of *exactly* what links we've built, and you're free to evaluate using your own expertise whether you like what we're doing or not. We are one of the very very few SEO vendors that does exactly that. With us, you know exactly what you're getting.

You posted in your post your breakdown of some domains where links came from. Well guess what? You had that exact data available to you to look at on month 1, and month 2, and month 3, and month 4, and month 5, and month 6, and month 7, and month 8, and month 9.

We never hid that from you at any point. In fact, we made it EASY for you to get that information.

Link building is just one component of rankings. You also need a good site, good titles, good metas, good bounce rate, a good user experience, correct keyword targeting, etc. Unfortunately most of those things are out of our control.

We have hundreds of customers that make Link Emperor work very very well for themselves. Our customer retention rate is well above the industry average for this type of service.

As far as getting your site banned, I truly don't believe that link building alone can get sites banned. And believe me ... we've TRIED!

If we could get sites banned from Google by simply using Link Emperor on them, we would be able to SELL THAT AS A SERVICE. We would be running ads all over the WSO forum and all over the internet offering to get sites banned from Google. If we actually were able to do this, we'd be able to charge outrageous amounts of money. $25,000 to get my competitor BANNED? AWESOME, I'm in!

But we can't. And that's because Google has no way of knowing *who* is building links to your site. Is it you yourself? Or is it a competitor?

That's why we believe that Google will never ban a site from its link profile alone. Getting a site banned usually has more to do with the site itself than its link profile.

Is your site informative? Fast? Easy to use? Good for searchers? Well written? What about bounce rate? Viruses? Complaints?

Without knowing what your site is, it is impossible for anyone reading this thread to know. It's very possible that your site was just crappy.

(I didn't actually look at your site or URL when writing this post.)

But if you want to set the record straight on that, you could post the exact URL of your site and the keywords you're targeting.

That's about the only way I see this discussion moving forward in a constructive way that helps the Warrior community figure out what really happened.

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Robert02011

11 years ago

After the review of your link building services i for one will not use your products now or in the future. I Believe in warriors!

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agentdangermouse

11 years ago

WOW getting a bit worried now... i just signed up the last thing i want is to be penalized especially my clients......

So lets say for example i had legitimate business sites... not affiliate or money making websites... im talking real world business websites.

LE seem to always say that its the quality of your site etc.etc. Well these are highly original, no ads, well optimized, original content articles etc... white hate is followed to a T. LE also say that they do not believe that LINK BUILDING alone will get you banned.

My question is will my sites be banned still using LE ?

I will have to agree with other comments that if LE are using bad link farms, or penalized spammy sites for link building then there is no doubt that that juice will be passed on if any little value to all hence you will eventually start to give a bad trail of bad links. This i think can cause a Google unnatural link message in Web master tools.

So i guess im worried. Not sure how to proceed ? Any advice or a direct response from LE would be great.

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julian76

11 years ago

Originally Posted by agentdangermouse

WOW getting a bit worried now... i just signed up the last thing i want is to be penalized especially my clients......

So lets say for example i had legitimate business sites... not affiliate or money making websites... im talking real world business websites.

LE seem to always say that its the quality of your site etc.etc. Well these are highly original, no ads, well optimized, original content articles etc... white hate is followed to a T. LE also say that they do not believe that LINK BUILDING alone will get you banned.

My question is will my sites be banned still using LE ?

I will have to agree with other comments that if LE are using bad link farms, or penalized spammy sites for link building then there is no doubt that that juice will be passed on if any little value to all hence you will eventually start to give a bad trail of bad links. This i think can cause a Google unnatural link message in Web master tools.

So i guess im worried. Not sure how to proceed ? Any advice or a direct response from LE would be great.

Danger mouse,

The biggest red flag for me was the account suspended pages, then followed spammy looking articles with about 10 different niche topics thrown in, on low PR sites. It's a pity because LE looked very good, but there seems to be a chronic lack of quality control.

I think the best, most unbiased and vertical advice I can give you is to go to your account link building tab and just take 10 random URLs that link blasts have gone to, both recent and a while ago. Have a read of the articles/forums/links and see if it makes sense. I found that many of the articles and links only seem to last a few days/weeks then seem to get lost...

I am beginning to see a much bigger picture to elevating your site's PR. It is about providing very high level user engaging information on high PR, related sites that dofollow back to you. There are a few fiverr gigs that look good, but if you use them, make sure you only take the high PR MANUAL backlinks gigs with lots of good ratings/reviews. If they promise 100's/1,000's of links then run as fast as you can in the opposite direction.

If you haven't already signed up for webmaster tools with Google, do this right away. It gives you valuable insights into your site SEO which most others charge for. See if your site is indexing all pages, and fetch googlebot to show your site. It is possible to disavow all the toxic backlinks holding your site back in the search as well as completely re-index your site in a day or so.

You might find this article hugely helpful in cleaning up a site, as I did:
50 Reasons Your Website Deserves to Be Penalized By Google

The place where most link building mistakes are made are between the desk and the chair.

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agentdangermouse

11 years ago

Originally Posted by julian76

Danger mouse,

The biggest red flag for me was the account suspended pages, then followed spammy looking articles with about 10 different niche topics thrown in, on low PR sites. It's a pity because LE looked very good, but there seems to be a chronic lack of quality control.

I think the best, most unbiased and vertical advice I can give you is to go to your account link building tab and just take 10 random URLs that link blasts have gone to, both recent and a while ago. Have a read of the articles/forums/links and see if it makes sense. I found that many of the articles and links only seem to last a few days/weeks then seem to get lost...

I am beginning to see a much bigger picture to elevating your site's PR. It is about providing very high level user engaging information on high PR, related sites that dofollow back to you. There are a few fiverr gigs that look good, but if you use them, make sure you only take the high PR MANUAL backlinks gigs with lots of good ratings/reviews. If they promise 100's/1,000's of links then run as fast as you can in the opposite direction.

If you haven't already signed up for webmaster tools with Google, do this right away. It gives you valuable insights into your site SEO which most others charge for. See if your site is indexing all pages, and fetch googlebot to show your site. It is possible to disavow all the toxic backlinks holding your site back in the search as well as completely re-index your site in a day or so.

You might find this article hugely helpful in cleaning up a site, as I did:
50 Reasons Your Website Deserves to Be Penalized By Google

The place where most link building mistakes are made are between the desk and the chair.

Thanks for your reply.

I believe in some form of quality control from my end also which is why i would never spin articles.. i for one know for a fact they do not make sense.

So i even spoke to LE about this they even recommended that if possible upload your own articles.

I have a professional copywriter that i use for genuine non plagarised articles....

So i guess my follow on questions is..... IF

... all articles are genuine
... all on page is done correctly and following G guidelines to a T

Will LE work for me ?

I guess the biggest thing is that the manual back linking is the part i want to source out the most..... the rest i want total control over.

What do you think ?

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julian76

11 years ago

Yes,

I think that's a good mindset. I definitely think that creating your own unique content for link building is a good idea, and outsourcing that work isn't hard to do and saves a lot of time. But the only thing you can't control with LE is where they place your content. It would be a real shame to put in so much effort with content writing only to see it wacked on a bodgey PR:0 site full of spam, instead of a high authority site, such as facebook or ezinearticles.

Also you would need to turn most of the other automated controls off like blog commenting/forum profiles as those are very spammy and hard to monitor, and have been cracked down by G. I think what I'm leading up to is, you really only need 20-30 different high PR sites in your list, and post to each of them regularly.

These are my fav methods:

Make short YT vids with Animoto describing your site and upload to YT. Remember to use the keywords in the filename, that is critical as filename is llisted in results.
twitter
facebook business page - Use it to link your pages to it and brief thumbnails and summaries show up, its great
Pinterest
Tumblr
G+
ezinearticles
squidoo
Get some cheap gigs on fiverr to manually do a few high PR directories.
To me, doing all this doesnt seem much harder than trusting automation to LE.

It is about top quality links now rather than blasting them all over the net, and I prefer to have better control and monitor what I'm doing, I can measure results better.

Maybe keep going a little while and see if you get some results. I'd be interested to hear from you.

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littlespider

10 years ago

It has been on my mind for quite some time to write a positive review about link emperor on this forum to thank them for all these years of great service to me without ever asking anything in return. To my surprise I found this thread. So I decided to share my experience so those evaluating link building will hear it from other angles.

I've been a customer of Link Emperor for few years now and their links have worked very well for me. As a matter of facts I have not found other hands-off/automated services that can push up my ranking consistently like theirs.

Having said that, I don't put all eggs in one basket. I inject other high pr links and .gov .edu, directory, web2.0 so my link profile does not look like a cookie cutter. It provides stronger/resilient link profiles and make my link profile look more balance. I also use Parasites (youtube, Press Release) to get more traffic. But I only add those as supplemental links when I have time. Link Emperor takes load off of my shoulder when it comes to link building. I use them as my core link building methods.

I also pay big attention to my on-page optimization and factors.

I understand the limit of what they can and cannot offer with the package and take the best of it and supplement the lacking part with other services (which costs more in exchange for high quality links).

If you look at their link blast services, they are pretty transparent about what services they use. As far as I remember, you can choose which one you don't want to use. You can report it as spam or you can as for refund for that particular service.

Their customer services are top notch. They care about customers and really take time to explain every single question completely until I understand it. These guys are extremely smart, detail-oriented and customer-oriented. They are very approachable, available and I can always count on them to get to the root of the problem for me every time.

I have the smallest plan (soldier), yet they never treated me like my issues/questions are unimportant. They responded to my questions even on weekends and yesterday they worked on a glitch in my account until 1am, then Kevin the co-founder sent me an email once it has been resolved.

They keep me posted of Google changes and advice me what to do. They also keep up with what we should do for link building, para-site strategies, link campaign allocations etc. which takes load of my shoulder from keeping up with Google.

Even their email newsletter are packed with things worth reading. While I unsubscribed to most of my email list, I keep theirs and read every single one of them.

I found them to be one of the most intelligent, technical, ethical, honest, customer-caring businesses out there. They earn their business by hard work, honesty and caring for their customers. They will do every thing they can to help you.

I feel really sorry for Mr. Stevelarkincvg to have his site banned that but given the amount of good things there are to be said about link emperor, it would be unfair to categorize them as bad link building service when there are still a lot of customers who are successful using their program.

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stevelarkincvg

10 years ago

Originally Posted by littlespider

It has been on my mind for quite some time to write a positive review about link emperor on this forum to thank them for all these years of great service to me without ever asking anything in return. To my surprise I found this thread. So I decided to share my experience so those evaluating link building will hear it from other angles.

I've been a customer of Link Emperor for few years now and their links have worked very well for me. As a matter of facts I have not found other hands-off/automated services that can push up my ranking consistently like theirs.

Having said that, I don't put all eggs in one basket. I inject other high pr links and .gov .edu, directory, web2.0 so my link profile does not look like a cookie cutter. It provides stronger/resilient link profiles and make my link profile look more balance. I also use Parasites (youtube, Press Release) to get more traffic. But I only add those as supplemental links when I have time. Link Emperor takes load off of my shoulder when it comes to link building. I use them as my core link building methods.

I also pay big attention to my on-page optimization and factors.

I understand the limit of what they can and cannot offer with the package and take the best of it and supplement the lacking part with other services (which costs more in exchange for high quality links).

If you look at their link blast services, they are pretty transparent about what services they use. As far as I remember, you can choose which one you don't want to use. You can report it as spam or you can as for refund for that particular service.

Their customer services are top notch. They care about customers and really take time to explain every single question completely until I understand it. These guys are extremely smart, detail-oriented and customer-oriented. They are very approachable, available and I can always count on them to get to the root of the problem for me every time.

I have the smallest plan (soldier), yet they never treated me like my issues/questions are unimportant. They responded to my questions even on weekends and yesterday they worked on a glitch in my account until 1am, then Kevin the co-founder sent me an email once it has been resolved.

They keep me posted of Google changes and advice me what to do. They also keep up with what we should do for link building, para-site strategies, link campaign allocations etc. which takes load of my shoulder from keeping up with Google.

Even their email newsletter are packed with things worth reading. While I unsubscribed to most of my email list, I keep theirs and read every single one of them.

I found them to be one of the most intelligent, technical, ethical, honest, customer-caring businesses out there. They earn their business by hard work, honesty and caring for their customers. They will do every thing they can to help you.

I feel really sorry for Mr. Stevelarkincvg to have his site banned that but given the amount of good things there are to be said about link emperor, it would be unfair to categorize them as bad link building service when there are still a lot of customers who are successful using their program.

You sound like a person who works at Link Emperor in your terminology. Some of the same wording is on their website.

Also a little funny you posted here on the site with only 3 posts.

Sounds fishy.

We did finally get the links removed and penalty lifted after 6 months.

Plenty of other sites say don't use Link Emperor either, read this great "Link Emperor Review" by an SEO pro.

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agentdangermouse 10 years ago

I have been using LE for almost a year... i have not followed up on this thread but maybe its time.

Whats my verdict ? Not good.

For instance, following LE instructions to a T with at least 10 keywords per target, randomization, branding keywords, naked anchor texts, only using Web2.0 and Blog networks has not seen the improvement i was hoping for.

For example see the following

This is almost 6 months worth of link building January 67, today 80 something... OOOPS. What happened there ?? beats me. So what am i paying for ?

By looking at the way it goes up and down it seems to have been slapped hard by an algo update and there for rankings have dropped they have not recovered either.

I dont what else to do ?

I have a few clients and they have all been slapped to some extent, i have not seen positive rankings at all across any of my campaigns they are either at the same or worse off.

I am being extremely transparent here, if it worked like i expected i would of said it here on these forums, but it doesnt, its sad.

The last thing im trying for the next 30 days before i cancel my 3 soldier accounts is using parasites... infact i have almost copied to a T the strategy used in the tutorial video spent a good half day setting up high PR blogs and other accounts to blast links to for specific keywords.

Lets see what happens, if this does not work then unfortunately i cannot recommend this product. I wish it could i believed it would be the holy grail but its not.

Im going to have one last chat with LE support staff they are good and try to help so i will see what else they can recommend.

There is a couple other services im going to try after LE if i cancel my accounts.
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- davidmcsweeney 10 years ago
  
  If you are looking for long term, stable rankings for your site, then you are not going to get them with the kind of links you will get through LE. Short term, it *might* work and I mean might and I mean very short term...
  
  For a start, you just don't need all those links. Volume is not the key, it's quality and authority.
  
  Majestic SEO have an excellent metric in Trust Flow. You need links that are connected to authority sites in your niche. For example in SEO a link from moz is ideal, but a link from a site which is linked to from moz will flow down some of that trust and authority to you.
  
  Instead of worrying about pyramids and parasites, first create something that deserves to rank and then go and get the links it deserves through outreach and networking.
  
  I've helped quite a few sites recover from penalties now incurred by links built by LE and I've seen the links first hand - they are very poor. But that's not really LE's fault, what else do you expect for the money? They offer a service at the end of the day and they deliver that service (i.e. link volume), but it's not the way I would be building links to any of my sites.
  
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  Mike Anthony 10 years ago
  
  I won't say much in this thread except for this in case anyone still believes this
  
  "As far as getting your site banned, I truly don't believe that link building alone can get sites banned."
  
  This was false a year ago and its even more false now. On the other hand if you use a public service like this then it can happen with any provider. Thats why most of the good services have gone way underground not advertising all over the place or trying to build brand name.
  
  So its not just link emperor. It could happen with any very public service.
  
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  davidmcsweeney 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  So its not just link emperor. It could happen with any very public service.
  
  agreed 100% and yes, of course link building can get your site(s) banned. I've seen it many times.
  
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SEOMasters

11 years ago

Still use SEOit to create your links, because you couldn't do it on your own?
That explains it all doesn't it

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stevelarkincvg

11 years ago

The website was online for a period of 14 months, we used Link Emperor and LE only for our link building, we got a warning from Google 11 months into using your program, here is what they said, so if that isn't clear enough I'm not sure what is.

Manual Actions
This site may not perform as well in Google results because it appears to be in violation of Google's Webmaster Guidelines.

Site-wide matches Some manual actions apply to entire site
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Unnatural links to your site
Google has detected a pattern of unnatural artificial, deceptive, or manipulative links pointing to pages on this site. These may be the result of buying links that pass PageRank or participating in link schemes. Learn more.

As a result your entire site has been marked as spam.

Again, let me just say that this doesnt look to natural, lol. Just about every link built from your service was spammed on countless sites like this. Some domains have over 1300 baclinks back to us. The Google rep I spoke with told me it was very easy to pick up on and even flagged their system for a manual review. So it wasn't the keywords or my settings, it was the actual links your system built for my site.

Originally Posted by seoextremewithsophie

Tried LinkEmperor and was not happy.... they went crazy debitting my Paypal and had to waste my time asking for a refund on all the debits they made... plus the links were horrendous!

Agreed, when we signed back up for testing they charged us almost $3000+ and we had to wait a few days for the refund.

They just shut off our new TESTING account and gave us a refund. Now we have another person with a new PC and IP testing using a different type of genre so we will report results back once we test for a good 9 months as we think it takes that long for Google to pick up on the link building. We will follow the directions by the book and if the site does well with no problems or bans we will report that, if the site gets banned we will let you know as well. We want to be very fair to the community and find out for sure what this system does.

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elperuanito

11 years ago

Why are you still building links to the site and setting up accounts on Link Emperor?! You already say it's crap, so move on. Also, why didn't you just ditch the service after the trial period if you didn't like the quality of the links? Don't you get a report of the links built?

I've not used it personally but have heard good things. Sorry you had a bad experience, but I would just cut my losses now and find a new provider.

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stevelarkincvg

11 years ago

Originally Posted by elperuanito

Why are you still building links to the site and setting up accounts on Link Emperor?! You already say it's crap, so move on. Also, why didn't you just ditch the service after the trial period if you didn't like the quality of the links? Don't you get a report of the links built?

I've not used it personally but have heard good things. Sorry you had a bad experience, but I would just cut my losses now and find a new provider.

I'm not building links to any of our websites anymore. We have someone we know who has had a site up for 4 years and doesnt want the domain anymore. So to prove a point we are following the Link Emperor directions and videos to a "T" and we will see where it lands us after a few months.

Just "cutting the loses" doesnt really work after spending over $10K and having two money sites banned off Google.

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Rader

11 years ago

Can we please see your money sites?

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stevelarkincvg 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Rader

Can we please see your money sites?

Sorry no I would rather not list my websites.
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- julian76 11 years ago
  
  Yes,
  
  I too use L/E for my link building across 20+ sites.
  
  I originally used LE maybe 9 months ago on a big site I had, and it seemed to have a detrimental effect on it, I was page 1 for some good keywords, and got knocked a long way back, so I removed the site from my campaigns.
  
  I have now rejoined on soldier plan and I'm only link building to micro niche sites and only to buffer tiers and parasites like FB / YT. These sites already get very little traffic, so they can hardly go backwards from here. It's been 2 weeks so far and I've noticed alexa rankings have gone to 1/3 of what they were, i.e 6m down to less than 2m. One site I had 2 weeks ago ranked 18m and is now less than 2.5mil on alexa. That kind of sounds good but then, I created FB page, had lots of likes and did yt videos. I'm not exactly clear what's lifted the site, and its a bit too early to see if LE is really working well for me, however most of my other micro niche sites have escalated alexa rankings nicely since I started link building only with LE (14.7mil down to 3.8mil in 2 weeks) so they are looking promising, if using alexa ranking is any kind of accuracy to determine site ranking.
  
  I'll keep everyone informed here of my broader results.
  
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  julian76 11 years ago
  
  Now for the update - it didn't take long.
  
  I have completely done a 180 on my point of view of Link Emperor. I gave my in depth summary of my opinion in another thread, so to wrap it up:
  
  L/E have been putting a mish-mash of spammy links randomly in whatever forums and dodgy looking directories all over the house like a mad dogs breakfast, with no on page SEO, no title, keywords, desc tags, no relevance and zero PR pages. That will only harm your site. Some destination URLs had "account suspended" error messages.
  
  I have written to them to request a refund.
  
  For $150 a month you would better off going to fiverr and paying for some High PR backlinks to your site, FB page, YT vids and pay for some views and comments, you would see way better ranking results than giving your money to LE turds.
  
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SoCal Digital

10 years ago

This was a really interesting thread to read. I think that the combination of not knowing what you are doing and a powerful tool like Link Emperor is what can cause a bad experience.

If you know the value of how to setup a Tiered campaign on auto-pilot to boost the PA/DA of sites that link to Tier 1s or link to your money sites than Link Emperor is well worth the monthly fees.

My recommendation to people reading this thread is DO not use link Emperor directly to money sites. These links are massive and definitely automated with spun content which can easily cause a red flag. However, if you are looking for ways to increase the power of Micro niche sites, Parasites, or Tiers then LE works like a charm. Make sure to also include a diverse number of naked urls, generic keywords and partial keywords as anchors.

The amount of links and automated keyword rankings/linkbuilding is a great system. I have also received a lot of help setting up campaigns from the support team.

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Ricardo Furtado

10 years ago

Thanks for the warning.
Best wishes and regards.

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Ricardo Furtado

10 years ago

Thanks for the warning.
Best wishes and regards.

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davidmcsweeney

10 years ago

So... today I start getting loads of anchor text links coming in pointing at my review page from what looks exactly like the link emperor network. Clearly trying to negative SEO me, what a lovely company. If you are reading this, I suggest you stop.

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