Barry and Roger Car Lead System???

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Can anyone give me some insight on this system?

I'm a bit concerned because they claim it's a Proven system yet the domain was only registered a little over one month ago.

MyCarsOldFast.com WHOIS, DNS, & Domain Info - DomainTools

In addition, they had the web design completed recently also.

Landing page design contest | LeadRush needs a new landing page | Design Brief | 99designs

They claim their two landing pages are proven to convert, yet the pages were recently created by 99 Designs.

Here is the sales page for the offer, LEADRUSH PRESENTS...

Maybe they used another domain for there testing but I would like some feedback please.

Does anyone know of any software that will allow me to forward leads to multiple customers like their software does? If you know what software they are using that would be even better.

I'm not crazy about some 3rd party controlling my business.

Maybe their training for this system is worthwhile. I may pay for their training but develop my own system that I control.

Thanks
#barry #car #lead #roger #system
  • Profile picture of the author JonnyA
    Their emails go straight to my junk folder because it seems every month they have a new "CRITICAL EMERGENCY TRAINING" of the next greatest thing to hit the marketing world. It gets old REALLY fast.

    Occasionally I'll take a look if it's something that aligns with what I'm doing, but I've never spent a dime on anything they've put out because they're just product creators who sell massively overhyped products to their list. Whatever type of "offline" business they might have had in the past has long been given up to selling their monthly "revolutionary business-in-a-box that will make you $10,000/month". They do this very well I might add, and have probably made millions taking money from people looking for that quick done-for-you type biz-op/product.

    While they do have some original ideas, (and I can't comment on all their products because I simply haven't seen them) I can guarantee they're not actually making money from practicing what they preach. If their income claims for just the products I've seen were true then they would have just scaled those systems and be billionaires right now without ever having to send another email again - instead of hawking a new $697 product every month.

    I know you're asking about the auto lead system, which I was going to get to because I watched the webinar and have some comments about it courtesy of a friend who is in auto sales - but I just had to get that out.

    Be back later when I have some more time...

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author JonnyA
    ...also, what you're looking for is "lead distribution software". There are quite a few different companies that offer fully hosted or self-hosted lead management and lead distribution software/platforms if you take a look around the web.
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    • Profile picture of the author Leadzguy
      Guys they have no clue how working with car dealers really is. They have a good idea but do not have any idea about the real world. This is my niche, i am the #1 rated company for the lead services I provide car dealers nationally. Also a former dealer for many years.
      They are telling people sure you can sell a lead 5 times for $15 to $20. Ain't gonna happen. No self respecting dealer is going to share a lead with 4 other dealers, maybe 1 or at the very outside 2 but not likely. I built my business on exclusivity of the leads, that along with the quality is why I am #1.
      They won't provide any hard facts on percentages of people who indicate they also want to buy a car. Because they don't have any. No dealer is going to pay $15 just to maybe buy a car directly. Haven't they heard of CarMax?? The majority of these type vehicles being sold on craigslist are of either age or mileage that new car dealers don't sell because they can't finance them.
      I sent in a support ticket asking some pretty direct questions that was over a week ago and yes i got the same response you did, NONE. I am getting a refund if that tells you anything. Also on webinar I asked multiple questions that let them know I knew what I was talking about and they never responded to a single one because I don't ask questions I don't already know the answer to. Hope this helps. When it comes to the car business no one can BS me.

      Forgot to mention that you down own dick, everything resides on their servers. If they disappear so would you money and reputation with car dealers. You can do this yourself. A basic database, deliver an email, add a dealer, not rocket science. They clearly have never worked with dealers before. They are one of the hardest groups to pay their bills. They are also very high maintenance on leads. My educated case is maybe 10% of the people might indicate they would consider buying a replacement vehicle. Now remember those would be shared between 5 dealers. Typically in this scenario, if 10 say they would consider, 5 might show up and if you sold 2 of the 5 you've done a hellofa job. Do the math because the dealers will. They already know the numbers and most of these people hanging their hat and possibly their future are going to be made to feel like an idiot. Car dealers are tough. These people have been led to believe if you only sell 100 leads a month you are going to make $7500 a month, I call bullshit.
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      • Profile picture of the author mpluto
        Originally Posted by Leadzguy View Post

        Guys they have no clue how working with car dealers really is. They have a good idea but do not have any idea about the real world. This is my niche, i am the #1 rated company for the lead services I provide car dealers nationally. Also a former dealer for many years.
        They are telling people sure you can sell a lead 5 times for $15 to $20. Ain't gonna happen. No self respecting dealer is going to share a lead with 4 other dealers, maybe 1 or at the very outside 2 but not likely. I built my business on exclusivity of the leads, that along with the quality is why I am #1.
        They won't provide any hard facts on percentages of people who indicate they also want to buy a car. Because they don't have any. No dealer is going to pay $15 just to maybe buy a car directly. Haven't they heard of CarMax?? The majority of these type vehicles being sold on craigslist are of either age or mileage that new car dealers don't sell because they can't finance them.
        I sent in a support ticket asking some pretty direct questions that was over a week ago and yes i got the same response you did, NONE. I am getting a refund if that tells you anything. Also on webinar I asked multiple questions that let them know I knew what I was talking about and they never responded to a single one because I don't ask questions I don't already know the answer to. Hope this helps. When it comes to the car business no one can BS me.

        Forgot to mention that you down own dick, everything resides on their servers. If they disappear so would you money and reputation with car dealers. You can do this yourself. A basic database, deliver an email, add a dealer, not rocket science. They clearly have never worked with dealers before. They are one of the hardest groups to pay their bills. They are also very high maintenance on leads. My educated case is maybe 10% of the people might indicate they would consider buying a replacement vehicle. Now remember those would be shared between 5 dealers. Typically in this scenario, if 10 say they would consider, 5 might show up and if you sold 2 of the 5 you've done a hellofa job. Do the math because the dealers will. They already know the numbers and most of these people hanging their hat and possibly their future are going to be made to feel like an idiot. Car dealers are tough. These people have been led to believe if you only sell 100 leads a month you are going to make $7500 a month, I call bullshit.
        Been in car business myself and agree with this guy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Crankin38
          Originally Posted by mpluto View Post

          Been in car business myself and agree with this guy.
          Mpluto,

          I guess I am to new to send PM's, so I am trying this route to contact you... Sorry about the Hijacking, but I am truly looking for this guys opinion. Anyways...
          Hello,
          In all my researching around this site (yes, I am a total newb), I found your posts. Yor post's seemed to be looking for the truth, and not just hype... Along with some good knowledge to back it up.

          So with that said, is this something I should stay away from:
          [THIS WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE!] I can guarantee you a full time income online....[20+ Buyers Reviews!]

          Please let me know what you think.
          I also wanted to know about what you were looking to release, and if that has made any progress?

          Thanks for your input and advice!
          Craig
          Indianapolis, IN
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          • Profile picture of the author brunski57
            I did Not see any money back offer, on their deal. (auto leads)

            Their next hot item is Debt consolidation, well I have some experience with this industry. It is saturated!
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  • Profile picture of the author Wolster
    Glad I came across this thread, it saved me quite a bit of time researching
    this product.

    Cheers guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonnyA
    I see Leadzguy beat me to it, but I was going to say some of the same things pointing out all the massive holes in their product.

    Another thing that stood out was the fact that the intake form on their site collected so little information about the used vehicle. I think the form fields only included the make, model, colour, year, mileage, and condition. This was then sent directly to the 5 dealers and he claimed that they would come back with 5 offers on the car.

    Um, no. It would never work like that. No dealer on the planet would make an offer based on so little information about the vehicle. Maybe a ballpark figure but you would either need to fill out a massive form with about 30+ questions and/or bring the car to the dealership for a full inspection before being given an estimate.

    Because of this, it would obviously defeat the whole purpose of their MyCarSoldFast.com lead gen site, and render it effectively useless.

    Add this to all the previously mentioned issues and you have to wonder how these guys get away with selling this for $897 or whatever the hell it is. It really blows my mind and I'm sure there are going to be a lot of people getting laughed out of dealerships and/or having doors slammed in their faces when they try to make this work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Leadzguy
    I can't believe these guys. They really think people are stupid. You can watch and no more than 2 weeks apart they've come up with the most life changing program ever. I don't know about everyone else but I'm not an idiot. I delete every "life changing or game changing" email I get.
    These clowns appear to be one of the biggest bullshiters I've seen in a long time. Neither of them have any experience or knowledge in the areas they are pimping. They are taking the same format or method and coming up with some new "insane" (that's another one I delete) idea and do it over and over again. They don't have 5 dealers they could market this to, period. There are a lot of gullible people unfortunately and some I am sure spent money on this without knowing anything about the car business. It doesn't and won't work, PERIOD!!! Save your money.
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  • Profile picture of the author seomaster
    I try to understand how theese Barry & Roger(no family name) guys dragged Russell inside this game!
    People in general nowadays, have really hard times to survive and they cannot be cheated that way, losing their hard earned money in bullshit.
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    • Profile picture of the author JB
      I ended up on their mailing list somehow and am always amazed at the over the top "game changing" "life changing" "bank account spinning like a ferris wheel on steroids" guff that they spin. I've tried many times to get off their mail list but keep on receiving gotomeeting webinar links from them. Very annoying. I watched one before and it was all very obvious high pressure sales talk with little to no value.
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  • Profile picture of the author webgenco
    My recommendation: Don't buy this. Also, their deal of the month is making 8 figures selling debt consolidation leads and upsells. This can be a lucrative niche, but it is extremely competitive.
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  • Profile picture of the author GingerColeen
    Completely agree with everything here. I once paid a lot of money for what looked like a great offline software and I was ready to sell it. But - guess what. It didn't even work and after support just stonewalled me for about a week, I got a refund.

    They come out with new products regularly and it's always hyped and expensive and then they're on to something new. I just signed up for an Explaindio Training webinar and guess what? The email from Go to Webinar just came from Roger and Barry so that's the end of that for me.

    My advice is to stay far, far away from anything they touch.
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